inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[main elm]

they are 5 !

[tribal osprey]

Where

[mental mural]

I count 5

[inland warren]

How many fingers do people usually have?

How many legs do spiders have?

[inland warren]

Then it's fine 😅

[pallid rose]

Yeah, I'm seeing 5

[graceful cradle]

Mhm hand is fine

[main elm]

[mental mural]

The choas zero nightmare devs literally made a whole presentation on how they design their characters lol

[graceful cradle]

This one isn't AI

[main elm]

tbh

it's old news

the AI with fingers

[graceful cradle]

Yeah they had to explain the squad leader lmao

[main elm]

shit got evolved

[main elm]

I like the devs art, I already have 2 E7 art books

[mental mural]

Ai with fucked up fingers was 2 years ago man

[main elm]

or their choosing of artists

[inland warren]

From the screenshots you shared, i'm assume they start from the bobas, then create a female figure around them

[main elm]

more or less

[mental mural]

Its very possible

[inland warren]

But yeah, you guys convinced me to try it. I will surely play it at release

[main elm]

we didn't convince you, ur pp did

[inland warren]

Hope there's autoplay so i can play it with no hands

[main elm]

https://tenor.com/view/kk-brodslin-ok-khajiit-elder-scrolls-gif-17647458

[mental mural]

I was just comparing arts
Rip
I dont blame you though
I folded when I saw the vids and website

[tired socket]

Just watch the trailers

They will get u

[main elm]

3 different units 3 different artist

[mental mural]

Its chibi like e7

[main elm]

same game

it's always good when the game have multiple artists

E7, Arknights..etc

[mental mural]

They actually care

[inland warren]

Yeah I saw the trailers. I like the e7 artstyle and this isn't that far off

[main elm]

It's not like they "care" they know the main selling point of a gacha it's the art and the art 1st and foremost

[graceful cradle]

Meanwhile Hoyoverse games have a serious issue with SaberFace

[mental mural]

^

[main elm]

look at BA, look at Nikke, dog games with so much goon it made them top grossing game

[inland warren]

Like 2d, chibi style with transition to cool animmations

[graceful cradle]

Ironic that they're collabing with Fate

[hexed jay]

The gameplay is chibi. Don't get too baited by the art.

[tired socket]

I feel like chibi doesnt rly do it justice

[inland warren]

Yeah I saw the trailers. It kind of reminds me of e7.

[main elm]

seeing this in guild basically becoming a daily mission for me

[tired socket]

I hate chibi with a passion but im 100% fine with hpw this game looks

So idk

[inland warren]

We havent had many people quitting in my union

[hexed jay]

I kinda prefer E7's more

[mental mural]

I lost 11 guild mates in 2 weeks
They saw the vision

[inland warren]

I just can't get over the UI and the fact that it has a 7 years history

I feel like i missed everything

I kind of like being there from the beginning

[tired socket]

Since we like to throw aroubd numbers without context thats ONLY 11 MEMBERS IN HALF OF THE GAMES LIFESPAN

[mental mural]

Same man
Might switch up

[mental mural]

Funny man

[graceful cradle]

You didn't wanna be there year 1 trust me

[inland warren]

Can play more than 1 game at once. Eventually when this game doesn't consumes 5hrs a day, it's just autofarm, event, maybe some pvp, quit

[inland warren]

I'm here now

[tired socket]

It pretty much already is for me

I just refresh and throw on 10x 10x a day

No problemo

[inland warren]

Same

[tired socket]

We dont talk about rengo tho

[main elm]

rengo juice

[inland warren]

I havent cleared it even once, so...

[mental mural]

Inferno rengokutsu?

[inland warren]

Y

Next week they are going to nerf inferno

Dw it will happen!

[tired socket]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-harder-cope-sir-cope-sir-american-psycho-gif-26276799

[pallid rose]

working as intended

[tired socket]

Nah they might

No idea

Ive given up on trying to understand where xd is going

Tnh

Ill just take things as they come

[main elm]

they can't nerf inferno, coz there is eSport for inferno

[tired socket]

[mental mural]

End of Series?

[inland warren]

At the beginning of august we will see game revenue

If the drop is too sharp, it means something sus is going on

[mental mural]

So you'll be patient and wait?

[tired socket]

Want me to reveal secret technique

[tired socket]

||play as long as ur feeling it, quit once u dont||

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-know-let-me-know-dog-meme-let-me-know-dog-dog-holding-laugh-dog-speed-gif-15789708427721573726

Why tf did they bring infinity train back

[inland warren]

Don't really have anything else to play

Maybe one day a new release might come out and i will play that 24/7. I'm not gonna get myself into an old game, i just can't do it

Gonna be cautious with my spending in this, until they address things

If they improve the game, cool. If not, feelsbad go next

I quit HSR after dumping thousands on that, because the game was feeling like shit

I quit WuWa because of their anniversary and dropped quite a good amount of money there too

I'll do the same here if they don't address the things that concern me

[mental mural]

Yeah you mans are genuinely sad
I feel bad for you guys

[inland warren]

Why lol

[mental mural]

You guys are constantly rotating from mid to mid

Hoping and praying for gold

[inland warren]

I mean, i would like to stay here long term, but that's not necessarily up to me

[mental mural]

You lack choices and options

[inland warren]

That czn looks interesting

And is probably going to release quite soon

You guys gave me an option 😄

Also endfield... i have no idea when that game is releasing but i'm waiting for it

[pallid rose]

czn only next year

maybe

[mental mural]

Couple decent options releasing soon

[tribal sluice]

Finally 1 difficulty down

Bs stage lmao

[inland warren]

Is it? I read that if it's in preorder on the playstore it means it's quite close

Maybe it's bullshit tho

[inland warren]

Like..?

[mental mural]

Starsavior

This game

Enfield

[pallid rose]

pre register

[inland warren]

Yeah that

[pallid rose]

well... I pre registered in Ananta 1 year ago... lol

so

[inland warren]

But from the playstore or from the website?

I'm talking about being able to register from google playstore

[pallid rose]

their website

[inland warren]

Yeah i'm not so sure that is releasing by august 30 tbh

[pallid rose]

the thing is

[tired socket]

nah czn will release aug/sep

[pallid rose]

CZN still have to go through Beta

[mental mural]

StarSavior the game im most hyped for

[tired socket]

czn will do no beta

[pallid rose]

wdym no beta?

[tired socket]

exactly what i said

game release without a beta phase

[pallid rose]

where is that info?

[tired socket]

no need info for that

[naive wave]

E7 had none either, right?

Also just in case, I don't know about Outerplane, not the same developers after all

[tired socket]

some games if they are in development for long time and the dev team has polished dont need a public test to iron out

[naive wave]

https://tenor.com/view/rin-ultimate-chaos-zero-nightmare-gif-16118981724399505526

[tired socket]

u only need public betas if ur game is rushed

czn was delayed multiple times already

they are for sure in house testing

[pallid rose]

outerplane had a beta for sure, I played

[tired socket]

yeah so?

[pallid rose]

but, not the same devs

[mental mural]

HOT

Is this AI?

[tired socket]

why it matter

looks good

all that matters

[mental mural]

Just curious

[tired socket]

me personally idgaf if ai or not

if looks good looks good

artist need to git gud if ai beating em

[mental mural]

I agree

[tired socket]

[mental mural]

100%

[tired socket]

my car assembled my factory line not per hand coz robots do it better

[open fable]

well now

have you guys seen the new thread

now that is something

[main elm]

nice fast veronica abuser bro, let me introduce u to my best aurora farming viper

[outer falcon]

Which one

[indigo oyster]

#1392610942675587122

[open fable]

game got hacked

[left snow]

thats definitely one of the drafts of all time

[main elm]

my boi be zoomin

[left snow]

the pve cheater thing is kinda hilarious

[main elm]

literally aurora farmer

[left snow]

the draft is so weird bro

[main elm]

he got little cocky with ban protection veronica

he thought he won the game by doing that

[outer falcon]

Why did he finish with Lingluo

[main elm]

idk, but he used full 30 sec to pick the last one

prob was out of options

[glass ruin]

do tank teams

i mean what speed do tank teams have mostly

on average?

[left snow]

190-210 should get you high masters

if you draft and play well

[glass ruin]

wait so do u aim for speed on subs

[left snow]

you should

never roll gear without a speed sub

or at least check whether they get a speed sub

[glass ruin]

ok nice

i got my first bloodbath hp% after farming 1 week of aurora

[azure hare]

i dont even check to see if 3 subs has speed for a 4th unless the other 3 are % based too

[left snow]

thats depsressing

holy

[glass ruin]

eff res users?

[left snow]

you can try it

on lingluo

[glass ruin]

literally this is the only thing i found

its depressing lmao

[left snow]

at least thats pretty good

well it isn't but we can pretend like it is

[glass ruin]

all my bloodbath drops are very offensive

its like everything is crit

[left snow]

rough

2x will save you

[glass ruin]

i hope so..

[naive wave]

That's what happened when games had no beta test
At the very least, I don't remember E7 ever had

Meanwhile other games that had beta test only had little to none problems after release

It's annoying needing to confirm

No unequip cost here in ER so that's why nobody is lacking in Coins

[hexed jay]

Now imagine if ER had unequip cost with it's current state

ThEy NeVeR LeArNeD fRoM tHeIr CoMpeTiToRs

[warped dune]

I have fun playing etheria

I dont have fun playing e7

[tired socket]

i never played e7 and i will never

[naive wave]

That's it?

[hexed jay]

What are you even confirming exactly?

To begin with

I don't understand why you had to reply with something I already know

[naive wave]

I mean I didn't send chat only about unequip

Who knows, maybe I was expecting to find out how many beta the other game had

[warped dune]

The art and the animations are dope, everything else kinda meh

[hexed jay]

I only joined one so I only know one that ended 3 weeks before launch

[warped dune]

So who is hyped for the new charakters

[naive wave]

And here I thought I specifically mentioned "the other game"

[naive wave]

I'm waiting for another dragon waifu or vampire waifu

[warped dune]

Dragon would be dope

[hexed jay]

I thought you already answered your own question

[warped dune]

Imagine tiamat skin with dragonarmor and transforming into a half dragon in her ultmate form

[naive wave]

Yes, just wanted to let it known
Just in case
It's funny seeing weird comparison after all

[tired socket]

dw we got u, we made her dress red

[naive wave]

Recolor

[warped dune]

You mean the other coloration?

[tired socket]

ye

[naive wave]

The skins here are just like what Artery Gear had

[warped dune]

Actually looks better than og tbh

[naive wave]

Though they did change a little bit of the design

[tired socket]

tbf some recolors are nice

[warped dune]

Atleast imo

[tired socket]

i wont lie

ye na i agree

tiamat and freya

kinda go hard

[warped dune]

Yeah

I also like lily and valerian

Kloss kinda mid

[naive wave]

If it is only recolor, just let us change the color freely
Or the game can just sell "color dyes" for real money

[hexed jay]

it's so expensive for a recolor

[warped dune]

I mean we sure get crazy skins in the future

[naive wave]

Surely it's not only recolor but actual skin

Actually wait, it's Summer soon

[warped dune]

Its just very hard to use recources into developing skins now because they have so much to do

[naive wave]

So, Summer skins? :Hopium

[tired socket]

wdym soon brother i recently had 40C degree in middle europe

WDYM SOON

[warped dune]

Who would you like to see?

[tired socket]

[naive wave]

[hexed jay]

I rather they fix stuff than we get skins right now

[warped dune]

I am very curious about the new dream event

[tired socket]

ngl dream event

sounds tedious

[warped dune]

They said we get a shit ton of recources there

[tired socket]

[hexed jay]

3 gold lattices at least

surely

[tired socket]

its roguelike mode

[warped dune]

As long as the rewards are good

[tired socket]

10 lettuce shards every 5 weeks

trust

[warped dune]

I mean they said that we will get the most rewards from this event out of all the other that we have had

[tired socket]

oh really

[warped dune]

Yeah thats their solution countering the economy issues now

Or rather the coin issues

[hexed jay]

That's probably assuming you take the portal with the risk of losing rewards and actually win

who knows how hard it will be

[warped dune]

Will have to see

[tired socket]

im fine with whatever honestly

i unironically think game is kinda in a aight state rn so whatever

[hexed jay]

I can already see the flood of complaints that's gonna come

"Just give us all the rewards without risk of losing it!"

[warped dune]

Same

People are just doomposting because their private life is boring

They are probably not even playing the game anymore

They just come in to complain

@tired socket this reverse 1999 ost is cracked

[tired socket]

IKR

[pure junco]

What is playing? What is a game?

[warped dune]

Ohh no nameless is here, ill go to bed gn8 o7

[warped dune]

Your picture is fire btw

[pure junco]

Okita supremacy

[gilded mason]

Wow you're a writer

[pure junco]

Mhm

[gilded mason]

What novel did you write

[pure junco]

I've written some power fantasies. I'm currently working on a short story called Rachel's Web

[gilded mason]

Ohh

Power fantasy

Like etheria restart

[pure junco]

I honestly don't think that many people know what Etheria Restart's story is

[tired frigate]

the big boobed ladies are all evil

[gilded mason]

Humanity got iced out, and somehow discovered etheria, some random ass cyber world that had been there all along(?)

Sounds like an asspull

[pure junco]

Kinda like .Hack?

[gilded mason]

Well i dont play gacha for the story

I.play for the gambling

[pure junco]

You would have to if it's PvP Gacha. There's usually no real story

[gilded mason]

if i wanted a good story i'll just read a book

[warped kestrel]

I can't believe they still haven't done anything about Inferno Rengo

[gilded mason]

you'll be able to do it 100% in a few months, or maybe a year!

[full sun]

Next hypertalk I dont even care about updates, give me a 1 hour livestream of the devs trying to beat inferno rengokutsu. I just want to fucking see it.

I want to see the despair on their faces in real time

[small knot]

There is no despair

They’re running lvl 90+ accounts that probably have all the characters in the game

The only challenge they’ll face is the severe rng checks but it’s clear that they don’t intend to do anything since they took the stance that inferno is working as intended

[mental mural]

No
They just need love

[azure hare]

damn

whale down

[split halo]

Damn

[azure hare]

this man was up at the ass crack of dawn clearing content on resets

[hexed jay]

He can come back in a month and still be ahead

[mental mural]

Hurry up jack. The ship is going down. Hurry

[weak meteor]

nah he probably moved on, whales dont wait that long for companies to fix their game, they just go to the next game instead

[pallid rose]

people are fleeing

[mental mural]

more like taking off their delulu glasses

[tribal osprey]

Noooooo grandy

He didn’t realize it was a marathon

Not a sprint

[pallid rose]

he ran too fast 😦

[gilded mason]

sh*t

got 5 but no fury momentum

[gilded mason]

the title is really ironic

[warped kestrel]

How was that achieved?

It's a level 50 with poorly geared characters, doing it in 9 seconds (1 turn)

They have to be cheating

And this makes me wonder, how many other of these records are cheated

[gilded mason]

oh yeah top 1 defo sus

probably some damage hack again

devs cant code for shit so no surprise

[warped kestrel]

This one is just braindead, but any smart hacker would slow it down to make it look believable

[gilded mason]

game is easy to exploit

[warped kestrel]

For all we know, there's a lot of runs that are being completed with hacks

[gilded mason]

kinda hard to avoid ending up as fastest clear when you're using damage hacks

[outer falcon]

These kids don't care

They blow it all for one giggle and they're out

[warped kestrel]

Turn them off until you're about to lose, then turn them on to one shot last turn

That's what I'd do if I were cheating

[gilded mason]

gooner game lost sword released

i know why they call it lost sword

[warped kestrel]

Most likely everyone above the 3 character (obol ssania fangus) teams are hacking in the Inferno Hoyan ranking

And it's not that those with 3 characters aren't, it's just that I'm not sure about those

The rest, I can't see how they could've achieved a win in essentially 1-2 turns

I don't think these 2 are possible

[gilded mason]

jodox is like

super whale tho

[warped kestrel]

Their SSania is 0/5

And no matter how whaly they are, it wouldn't change anything

[mental mural]

probably 300 speed and codex

[warped kestrel]

Look at the times

I know that any DoT team is theoretically possible

[pearl knot]

the animations take longer than that

[warped kestrel]

The time is what's not right

Exactly

[mental mural]

is ti shell shadow flame hoyan?

[warped kestrel]

9 seconds is like... the end of your first turn

Yes, Inferno Hoyan

You can go and check it out by yourself

And actually, check all top 3

They're all clearly hacking

[mental mural]

I need tose hacks

[warped kestrel]

There's no way one could finish a battle in 1-2 turns with any of those teams

[pallid rose]

no rumors pls

[warped kestrel]

They're making even their whales struggle beating Inferno stages, only to in the end be beaten by some hacker with a 1-shot hack

[hexed jay]

The whales want their 10 second inferno clears

Hurry jaaaack

[azure hare]

he was a cool dude too

rip grandy

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-off-hat-rufus-black-idris-elba-the-harder-they-fall-solemn-gif-22109211

[tribal osprey]

who will save us from Jack now

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/may-god-have-mercy-on-us-all-michael-bryce-ryan-reynolds-hitmans-wifes-bodyguard-lord-have-mercy-gif-21612876

[tiny sage]

Hopefully the Investors when Rev is down −82.0714%

[warped kestrel]

6s Inferno Sharon btw

Even the 20s one is probably hacking

No DEF break

And even with DEF break it should be taking like 40s at least

[tiny sage]

Nah they just fount the Strat.

[errant mountain]

Kloss heinrich

real debuffs

he uh

dispelled the immunity

(For those who forgot, sharon's immunity is undispellable)

[tiny sage]

NGL Hot Take. Kinda Based.
Fuck Inferno In its current State
Good For them.
They thought of an Insane out of the box Strategy and it worked.

We Need more of these GigaChads

[errant mountain]

Not really a strategy... but it IS out of the box

[warped kestrel]

I don't know if you're joking or not

But 6s is like less time than one single character turn takes, counting the boss' animation

[tiny sage]

Im not. If the Devs Refuse to fix inferno I don't care if people cheat in PvE

[warped kestrel]

Oh nah I do share that perspective, I'm talking about the whole calling it a strat

[tiny sage]

They are like Robin hood you know

[warped kestrel]

I don't think it's a strat

[tiny sage]

It is a Strat I will continue to call it that until the devs respond to inferno Difficulty.

WAIT

THIS IS SMART

IDEA!!!

[errant mountain]

Give rengo inferno the cheese touch

[tiny sage]

time to go record footage before it gets taken down

[warped kestrel]

I hope their fattest whales get really really mad at the fact they can't even compete "ethically" and with integrity for the top leaderboard positions

[tiny sage]

Is the guy who dropped 6k still here that didn't get Lily or is he out

[errant mountain]

Heinrich Heinrizzed the boss into giving up that immunity

[tiny sage]

[warped kestrel]

And here's the thing, these are just the dumb obvious hackers, every hacker with a brain will be doing it in way more subtle ways

[errant mountain]

6k for no lily is diabolical

😭

[warped kestrel]

So there are probably thousands of hackers out there completing all content, affecting all leaderboards

And we just don't know it

[gilded mason]

He's found the hidden strat

[tiny sage]

Kinda Based. Maybe we should stuck with beta Difficuly

[errant mountain]

^ For every dumbass clearing in 10 seconds, there's 10 or 20 clearing in 30-60 seconds

I don't mind this though

[tiny sage]

Sorry It makes me happy seeing this.

[gilded mason]

might as well buy a new acc with lily and ssania

[tiny sage]

[warped kestrel]

He disappeared since like week 1 or something

Probably charged back and left or charged back and rerolled for a Lily as they want you to

[tiny sage]

Hopefully

[gilded mason]

was it megashield

[tiny sage]

I know One Whale who Charged back

[errant mountain]

Honestly hackers clearing feels sorta like justice; like the rightful vengeance for all of the tedium we've dealt with

[gilded mason]

no wait he made a feedback thread sometime back

[small knot]

That’s so sad what…….

[gilded mason]

is he still playing

[undone vortex]

I feel like they aint

which honestly fair

[small knot]

All whales should charge back before quitting

[undone vortex]

rebate was a trap

[small knot]

Real

[tiny sage]

Thats the plan they have a month to fix shit.

[errant mountain]

I did originally say until yelis banner ended but they actually have made some adjustments so ill give em another week or two

[small knot]

The adjustments in question

[warped kestrel]

Straight up. Can you imagine? Spending in the last beta with a state of the game that you found acceptable. To then have the game release in a disgustingly unplayable state

[ripe kraken]

Also they cut out the whole inferno conversation like it meant nothing from the video

[undone vortex]

fr

then rerolling isn't an option unless u take the L

[wicked ferry]

the 17s is a legit run, cant say the same for the 11s one

[warped kestrel]

Can you share a video of your 17s run?

I can somewhat see it happening, but I dunno, it's hard to imagine

[tiny sage]

yep 2/3rds of the video

[ripe kraken]

Hey instead let's open a new server for people to reroll lily - devs

[tiny sage]

[warped kestrel]

I run a very fast dot team, and it's still 30-40s

[wicked ferry]

it would take 10 of the stamina im saving for 2x tho 😄

[warped kestrel]

Your team contains a level 1 2* and is missing Fangus

[wicked ferry]

i purposefully removed fangus

[small knot]

Asshu is fire

[warped kestrel]

It's alright, if you're not banned by then, and you feel like it, you should probably post a video

It'll be interesting to see

[wicked ferry]

because he is slower

[errant mountain]

Asshu goated

trust

[small knot]

Literally

Dot goat

Local bars hate it when I use this trick

[errant mountain]

I was joking do people actually use asshu

lmao

[errant mountain]

Local bars hate it when I shoot everyone inside with a nailgun

[tiny sage]

Creates Perfect Game in Beta People do Rebate and are Generally hyped for the Game. Launch Game. Remove PvP Skins, Remove F2P Viable teams with Shadow Changes, Buff Hell3-Inferno to Difficulty that makes them unbearable. Lose 1/2 - 2/3rds of your Playerbase.

[ripe kraken]

Last time I missed only asshu from the kloss card event spent a whole event for his card it was sold for 5 dollars in market for Europe tf was that event

[errant mountain]

I tried to explain to the police officer that it wasn't assault and it was me using my asshu's ultimate

[tiny sage]

Tribe9 Looking AH Devs.

[errant mountain]

but he didn't buy it

[errant mountain]

Yeah Idk what they were thinking with wanting it to be tedious

like

what

that just frustrates people

they got greedy, I guess.

[ripe kraken]

Also does the current patch notes even include the shell change he mentioned no right

?

So the current patch notes was just to end rta quicker

[wicked ferry]

level one 2* does not matter, DoT does not scale off your stats. lvls nor stars give effect accuracy, the only relevant stat.

[warped kestrel]

This HAS to be the dumbest chain of actions a dev team from any game I've ever played has done

[tiny sage]

nope

[warped kestrel]

Of course level one 2* matters, as it affects your base speed and, in the case of Inferno Hoyan, means that a single counter attack from one of her minions will most likely kill the unit

In any case, I'm not here to debate with you on your run

If your run is legit, I doubt you'll get banned

If you post that video, do so solely to educate us

[tribal osprey]

the marathon aint over

[wicked ferry]

not rly trying to debate either, like you said i was just trying to educate you why that team is legit and why the char being lvl 1 does not matter

[warped kestrel]

Words won't be able to educate anyone when we're already working under the assumption that you're a cheater though

At that point, only actual evidence will do anything

[nova island]

lots of cheating on leaderboards atm

[warped kestrel]

And I'm willing to actually believe that you're not a cheater, because your team looks like it could work, it looks like it could work, I just struggle to imagine it being 17s

If you were one of the 2 above you, I wouldn't even be contemplating this

[ripe kraken]

Show the gear stats

And shell stats

[wicked ferry]

lots of cheating (or just a bug) on leaderboards atm yeah, its totally understandable that all the top runs should currently be met with skepticism, i agree on that point, just trying to tell you why that specific run is real

[hexed jay]

Jodox has been in the leaderboards since game launched

[warped kestrel]

They probably change in real time, so it's pointless, but he is very undergeared

[ripe kraken]

Oh

[warped kestrel]

The Beyontin is 100% naked

[gilded mason]

Yeah hes been there since the start

its the level 56

thats impossible

[ripe kraken]

Then I don't mind jodox

[tiny sage]

The Inferno Terror has an ungeard Cachi lol

[hexed jay]

He's also one of the very first inferno terror clears and some others

[ripe kraken]

Oh wow

[tiny sage]

Regardless based of them

[wicked ferry]

that is 100% intentional, that is literally to make the run faster. i only want her to act once, and she needs to be slow enuf to act after sania has alrdy gone twice

[warped kestrel]

The second one, who is using the same team as the level 50, and doing so in 11s, is also cheating

And they're cheating in more than just Hoyan

All Grim

Even Rengo

[ripe kraken]

U know one guy used level 1 3 star fangus last time

And killed it in 20 secs

Only with fangus

No teammates

[pure junco]

Fangus is just that good

[warped kestrel]

How can a naked Beyontin move in Inferno Hoyan at any point? she would die before she gets a chance

The entire team would probably be wiped out before she gets a turn, considering how undergeared all of them are

[gilded mason]

all we can do is just report and let them investigate

[warped kestrel]

If your strat includes the boss taking even a single turn, I no longer believe your run is legit

[gilded mason]

speculating is useless

[wicked ferry]

the mobs are stunned by obol, hoyan first move is always a single target hit. i restart until she hits either obol or sania

[ripe kraken]

The fact that some are using cheats for inferno shows how difficult it is

[pure junco]

You're gonna summon the White Knights

[ripe kraken]

Flamel will take care of them

[warped kestrel]

My Obol / Ssania / Fangus team takes a full 2 rotations and all the way back to SSania's 3rd rotation to get enough dots on the boss to one shot - how does your team do all of this in 17s, with one less dotter?

[hexed jay]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-cat-startled-cat-scared-cat-ambush-gif-25294792

[ripe kraken]

Also I am excluding jodox from my statement

[pure junco]

In Flamel we trust

[ripe kraken]

He seems legit

[pure junco]

Hello Lord Commander Nimi how are you?

[ripe kraken]

I can back jodox there are some weird strats that work but hey they work

[wicked ferry]

heres the full rotation. Obol ult > Sania S2 > Obol Ult > Asshu S2 > Sania S2 > Beyontin boosts sania so she can ult to one shot boss. Thats 7 actions

[ripe kraken]

One guy used cachi the r unit and 2 more action advanced also

[hexed jay]

Speed runs require a lot of restarting to get good rng and be able to clear within a short amount of time. Of course, everything is done manually

[warped kestrel]

Yeah I can see any strat with dots being believable, but considering that we're seeing the most obvious hackers on the leaderboards, the well is poisoned, I can no longer trust any top run that looks unrealistic, and that 17s one does look unrealistic

Now, he has nothing to prove to me

As I told him, if he's legit, he probably won't get banned

There's no reason for him to be debating this here

He can drop a video showing how he does it to educate, or stop wasting his time defending himself with words

[ripe kraken]

Doesn't he have yt

[hexed jay]

He does

[ripe kraken]

Ye

That's what I thought

Just go check his yt

[warped kestrel]

Let me see

[hexed jay]

Unless I'm misremembering him for another person

[errant mountain]

The time sounds unrealistic, but he has the thought process laid out. A cheater wouldn't have a logical explanation as to why things are the way they are in a vast majority of scenarios.

[warped kestrel]

What is his YT? There's none showing up when I look up "Jodox Etheria"

[ripe kraken]

I saw him once I don't remember

The name

But I remember he has

[pure junco]

And before the 00:00 clears happen

[ripe kraken]

I never thought a yt guy had to explain the strat here

[warped kestrel]

A smart cheater would cheat in ways that are realistic, using comps that look like they could work, slowing the run down intentionally, etc. But I get it.

[tribal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[tiny sage]

Regardless they just got good

We should all get good like them

[wicked ferry]

the written explanation is probably more useful to a lot of ppl that just a video imo

[small knot]

The stats are there and he laid out his process to you you can just follow his step by step and see if he was really cheating

[warped kestrel]

It takes my 3 dotters (SSania, Obol, and Fangus) 3 whole rotations to put enough dots on Hoyan so that SSania can detonate them and one shot, that entire process takes significantly longer than 17s, and it's not just because "Fangus slows it down"

I get the idea of the team, the time just doesn't make sense to me

[wicked ferry]

thats why beyontin and asshu have no shells, that adds time. i took that off

[distant wedge]

who is doubting jodox?

[warped kestrel]

I guess we'll find out once they clean the recent clears up

[distant wedge]

[small knot]

You could actually find out right now!

[warped kestrel]

I actually have all those characters and can exactly match those stats, however, I don't feel the burden of proof falls on me, since I have no investment on this

I just think it's a cheater

[small knot]

Good for you

[tribal osprey]

youre the one accusing him of cheating wdym it doesnt falll on you

[small knot]

The burden of proof doesn’t fall on them either

Innocent until proven guilty

[warped kestrel]

Does it fall on me to prove that these are all cheaters? of course not

This is just my observation

This is not my game

This is not a court of law

[wicked ferry]

@warped kestrel https://imgur.com/a/bvlfRwO

[small knot]

Accusation you mean

[warped kestrel]

You showed SSania detonating dots... how did those dots get there?

[warped kestrel]

Sure, you can call it an accusation, but I don't think it matters, because whatever I say is irrelevant, I'm a nobody

It's up to XD to do something about those cheaters, not me

[nova island]

i mean u can see he said what skills he did

count the dots

[warped kestrel]

I see the cheaters, I present them here, that's it

[wicked ferry]

this

[small knot]

bro is saying it as if it’s at in stone that they are cheaters

Set in stone**

[distant wedge]

flamel accusing jodox cuz he cant do it

💀💀💀

[warped kestrel]

The number of dots is right, the question is not whether the number of dots is right or not, but how did those dots get there given that team and their gear

[small knot]

He literally can he just doesn’t want to

[distant wedge]

stop accusing people of cheating maybe

[nova island]

speedrunners can try the same thing 100's of times for 1 run

[distant wedge]

[warped kestrel]

Dang, a lot more retards than I thought

[wicked ferry]

what would get you to believe

[small knot]

A full video apparently

[wicked ferry]

like what if i stream in one of the channels the clear?

[ocean bay]

His reasoning is actually very sound, assuming that beyo and asshu are practically ungeared it actually allows him to take the lower (7) actions he claims

and adds up lol

[distant wedge]

nothing he is a rtard

[warped kestrel]

First off, why do you care about getting me to believe you? If you're innocent, why do you care what some random guy on Discord thinks... unless you're actually trying to dissuade XD from looking into you?

[ocean bay]

Even the animation time actually sounds about right

[ripe kraken]

Sean b made a new video of new game

[warped kestrel]

That said, if you actually want to bring meaningful evidence, you should record the full clear, obviously

[small knot]

Helppp this line of reasoning is so wild 😭

[distant wedge]

funny

[azure hare]

sean slowly giving up on etheria

[ripe kraken]

He is saying his new vid game is horror

Bro going to horror genre after inferno Horror

[warped kestrel]

You can't be helped, you're apparently too braindead to understand that message

[distant wedge]

rtard

[wicked ferry]

maybe i get met with doctored video or something else, if you wanna sit thru a bunch of restarting, i can stream the run in a channel.

[small knot]

LOL now I’m just getting attacked because I don’t agree with your line of reasoning which is by all means a stretch

[nova island]

if he was cheating he wouldnt say exactly how its done, then show a gif exactly matching his explaination

[distant wedge]

he is just here for drama

[ripe kraken]

Wow jodox u know many streamers don't care about what others say on discord much this shows how different and unique you are

[small knot]

Instead of trying to avoid xd’s suspicion did it ever occur to you that people just want to clear up misunderstandings and not have people accusing them of being cheaters?

[distant wedge]

^

[warped kestrel]

Look, if I were you, I would just ignore the guy "accusing" you of cheating, and if XD ever bans your account for cheating, THAT is who you should be showing the video of your full clear to in order to clear the misunderstanding. If you want to share the video here, do it for educational purposes, not to clear up your name or whatever, what we say here doesn't actually matter

[ocean bay]

Even his dot turns of 3 and 2 perfectly match how an optimal run should be

[warped kestrel]

It's not rocket science

[ripe kraken]

Flamel he seems legit

[ocean bay]

It is legit…

[small knot]

He IS legit

[ripe kraken]

Oh

[ocean bay]

its a brutally rng manual run for a leaderboard placement

and adds up

[distant wedge]

ye

[wicked ferry]

i mean YOU asked for video proof, im offering something better (livestream), and now you dont want it?

[distant wedge]

flamel just too dumb to understand

[ripe kraken]

Uff seanb going to a 2d game

[small knot]

Flamel just had it set in his mind that all the top clears are cheaters and doesn’t want to think otherwise DESPITE HIS ABILITY TO PERFECTLY REPLICATE THE CLEAR

[ripe kraken]

Flamel is like that leave him bro

Ur just wasting time

[distant wedge]

everyone above him are cheaters

[ocean bay]

I mean i cant blame him for being sus cause the actual cheater runs are outrageous

but jodox cooked

[warped kestrel]

Every single time I've asked for video proof I've told you that you don't actually HAVE to provide it to me, it's not like I'm the XD employee that'll look through your run to see if it's legit or not, if you do share a video, do so to be educational

[pearl knot]

why would you not just post the entire video

[warped kestrel]

In any case, you seem to already have convinced most of these morons

[small knot]

And he just attacked me and called me brain dead because I don’t think that his thought process is reasonable

[distant wedge]

this fking guy

lmao

[warped kestrel]

So you don't even need to do any more convincing

[ocean bay]

Nah im sry flamel but u sound braindead LOL

[distant wedge]

[ripe kraken]

Always been

[full delta]

I’m sure there will be recorded runs when people submit for the Timmaeus inferno clear event

[ripe kraken]

Hey tokiyo why are u suddenly here don't u camp in general chat

[distant wedge]

no

[warped kestrel]

No, I called you braindead because you're incapable of explaining why, according to you, my thought process isn't reasonable. You're one of the retards who just says things without any reasoning behind them and can't put their thoughts into words, that's why.

I've explained my perspective extensively with paragraphs

[wicked ferry]

he follows the drama

[ocean bay]

You cant say “I dont need convincing” and “convinced these retards in the same sentence” without verifying

[small knot]

Calling us morons does nothing but discredit your own emotional intelligence… I feel like you’re doing this out of spite and anger

[ocean bay]

either w ragebait or u got a screw loose lol

[ripe kraken]

Flamel gonna quit soon guys

Getting this emotional over a game clear is unhealthy

[ocean bay]

Just hop in bros stream, you clearly need convincing man

[warped kestrel]

I'm not here to give any credit to my so-called "emotional intelligence" - dumbass.

[small knot]

By the way I literally did explain why your thought process was unreasonable @warped kestrel

[small knot]

While both situations are plausible you’re stretching it to the most extreme situation and assuming the worst possible scenario

[ripe kraken]

Xyvdum trying to break a echo chamber which 49 people failed to

[distant wedge]

@ripe kraken well i came here cuz dumbass was accusing of my guildie cheating

[undone vortex]

[small knot]

Despite being given the ability to think otherwise and actually prove the clear which I have been saying you can

[ripe kraken]

Shadow stabbed guildie

[warped kestrel]

It did occur to me, and if that's all he wanted to do, it seems he succeeded with a few of you - and all he had to do was talk his way around it. I won't be convinced with words, though, not in a game with leaderboards full of obvious cheaters.

[undone vortex]

the girls are fighting

[ocean bay]

w ragebait no cap

[ripe kraken]

Wuzzy if Buzzy was here he would have stopped it

[ocean bay]

elite level

[ripe kraken]

Go call him

[distant wedge]

absolute cinema

[full delta]

What’s the alleged cheat run?

[wicked ferry]

im offering more than words, but if you refuse to watch then nothing i can do about that

[full delta]

I’m so lost right now

[distant wedge]

anything above jodox

[pure junco]

Isn't this normal for this chat though?

[warped kestrel]

Inferno Hoyan

[small knot]

You don’t have to be convinced with words btw do the clear yourself and you can also prove he is right I can’t do that because I don’t have beyontin or SSania but you literally said you can replicate the clear

[undone vortex]

that's my 9nsecond clear omg my power

[full delta]

Interesting…

[warped kestrel]

Why would I do the clear myself to prove whether he's right or not though? This is not my job. This is XD's job.

[small knot]

You can prove him wrong or right but for some reason find it in your power to accuse him of being a cheater and not provide any evidence besides “it just doesn’t seem realistic because I can’t do it with my team”

[warped kestrel]

I have nothing to gain or lose from proving whether he cheated or not

[full delta]

Is it anywhere on the recent clears?

Maybe we can do a gear check

[warped kestrel]

It's the 3 most recent clears

[gilded mason]

just report and let devs handle it

if names gone means they cheat

[pure junco]

Lmao you probably should stop soon or you'll be timed out

[warped kestrel]

^^^^^^

Exactly my reasoning

[gilded mason]

discussing it doesnt really do anything

[warped kestrel]

He doesn't even need to post a video, if by the time the other 2 people are gone he is still there, I'll believe he didn't cheat

It's that simple

[undone vortex]

the only thing y'all should accuse jodox of is pushing ppl down the stairs

[warped kestrel]

And he doesn't need to care about what I think

[distant wedge]

[pure junco]

Where's the popcorn Tokiyo

[indigo oyster]

already being look at

[distant wedge]

gone

[pure junco]

Shame

[small knot]

Bro ate it all

[undone vortex]

I'll talk to the cheating. director

[wicked ferry]

if it didnt matter what ppl said, there wouldnt be laws against libel and defamation

[pure junco]

Just walk away man. He's just one random dude on the internet

[warped kestrel]

Fair enough, however, do keep in mind this is a Discord server for a gacha game, full of kids and dumbasses, I don't think you should take too seriously what anyone says, at least not if you know you're not what you're being "accused" of

[wicked ferry]

im free atm

[pure junco]

Lmao

Fair

[warped kestrel]

If you really aren't a cheater, there's no need for you to entertain this at all

[wicked ferry]

proving ppl wrong gives me joy, but you are denying me my happiness by refusing to accept the proof. well played sir

[gilded mason]

Cheating is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[warped kestrel]

Well, you haven't provided proof. The only valid proof is a video of a full clear showing the feat in your highscore. Anything other than this is unconvincing to me.

(Clearly not to others, but it is to me)

[nova island]

hes a troll obviously... (as jodox provided a lot of proof already)

[wicked ferry]

its a run that requires lots of restarting. the video would either be super long, or would require editing which im too stupid to do. i offered to stream it and you didnt want that so

[warped kestrel]

He provided a gif of SSania detonating a bunch of dots, this is not proof on how those dots got there

[full delta]

I will say DoT clear in 17 seconds seem plausible. I’m a little shocked about the Diting Lily Hoyan clear though since Hoyan is known to have one of the highest def in the game

[warped kestrel]

I understand this, and that's why I said you don't need to provide the video if you don't care about educating us, because I know it's annoying to actually get a recording of the successful run

[nova island]

there is alot of cheaters on the leaderboards, thats why ppl were questioning jodox to start with...

[warped kestrel]

Thing is, it doesn't matter if you convince me or not, as I've stated previously

If your name is still there by the time the other 2 people are gone, I'll believe your run is legit

[warped kestrel]

Obviously, I didn't question any of the unrealistic 20s Obol/SSania/Fangus/Empty teams before today, because I have no reason to

Now that I've been made aware of how many hackers there are, I have to assume everything unrealistic is a hacker's run

[full delta]

I’m a little confused about the beyo but my assumption is they are all on codex and battlewill + bramble or something

[warped kestrel]

I thought that too, but he said that he actually needs them naked for it to work...

[nova island]

nah if u scroll up he gave the reasons and rotation

[warped kestrel]

So no, they are all naked during the run, apparently

[nova island]

he needs them to be slow to not waste actions

[ocean bay]

The beyo and asshu have to be dirt slow for animation time

thats very basic to understand

[full delta]

I didn’t see the explanation

I’ll take a look now

[ripe kraken]

Guys nahor ult or s1 investment

Does his S1 2 turn def reduction apply to ult as well?

Or only s1

[full delta]

Oh the reasoning definitely does seem plausible

Just not consistent

Since I’m almost certain the run isn’t 17 seconds with resistance factored

[ocean bay]

Its rng leaderboard runs

[full delta]

Yeah

[ocean bay]

Typically some rly obscure manual shit thats interesting

but super impractical

[nova island]

i dont want to know how many tried he did to get that one run 🙂

[warped kestrel]

Yeah there's no doubt that if it's possible, it'll take like 50+ runs to get one in

[gilded mason]

in the first place, why on earth is clear time even used in a turn based game?

[warped kestrel]

The question is whether it's actually possible at all or not

[ripe kraken]

For flexing

[gilded mason]

devs be smoking weed

just do number of turns

[ripe kraken]

Whales need something to flex

[warped kestrel]

Have to give people a reason to whalemax out for PvE highscores

[ripe kraken]

[gilded mason]

its a turn based game

not an idle game

number of turns is better

[ocean bay]

Honestly clear times are a good metric for farming efficiency though, just in a leaderboard setting its w/e

[gilded mason]

you typically see clear times in like...wuwa or genshin

[ocean bay]

Like the fastest banshee clear in e7 being found was good for the community, especially with a no rng run

That kind of data is amazing to have

[full delta]

Would honestly be more helpful to show leaderboards based on average run time and success rate

[ripe kraken]

Idk devs are taking some drugs

[full delta]

For like a 10 run for instance

[gilded mason]

leaderboard is just rng and optimzing

[wicked ferry]

10 runs can still be RNGd

[gilded mason]

its never gonna be stable

[full delta]

Oh of course

[gilded mason]

stable teams are different

[ocean bay]

Its just by design of this game

[full delta]

But would it be more helpful than manual 1 rng runs

Definitely

[ocean bay]

The theoretical fastest clears are rng palooza

[ocean bay]

e7 differed in that fact but not for everything obv

[warped kestrel]

Inferno Rengo

[gilded mason]

kyeikko be using the same team

[small knot]

Jodox also explained that run on another occasion

[gilded mason]

can you imagine if he was an actual cheater

and still took 27 secs

[tribal osprey]

are we still on the flammel saying jodex is cheating arc?

[distant wedge]

JODOX IS CHEATING

[small knot]

Idk I just wanted to point that out

[distant wedge]

yes

[wicked ferry]

that run is obviously cheated. how can an R character beat inferno?

[tribal osprey]

that's crazy. anyways back to horse game

[small knot]

Are you winning

[distant wedge]

r unit in inferno clear? impossible

must be cheating

[outer falcon]

He's winning by playing horse game

[distant wedge]

wonder what the r unit does

[tribal osprey]

no. I started 2 weeks behind

[distant wedge]

[outer falcon]

RTA queue times getting worse by the day in this game

[tribal osprey]

[small knot]

Real I’m thinking of playing

[tribal osprey]

ngl wait for kitasan black in 2 weeks and reroll

need 5 copies and youre set for years

[half lodge]

I think Uma musume is literally both a sprint and a marathon

[tribal osprey]

and a jog

all in one

the white knights wouldnt understand both a sprint and a marathon

[small knot]

I see

Will do

[pure junco]

Characters could beat Inferno?? 😱

[tribal osprey]

bro rerolling takes literally 1 minute

its crazy

[small knot]

I see

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-umamusume-uma-picmix-gif-13123140853677649534

[pure junco]

Are you saying everyone should play this instead? Gotcha. Time to play horse girls

[small knot]

Yes

[tribal osprey]

Exactly! Every horse matters in Etheria!

[small knot]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-uma-musume-picmix-umamusume-umamusume-picmix-uma-musume-pretty-derby-gif-10557125598115471965

[pure junco]

I didn't think I would love using Oboro so much until today

I'm testing more characters against different bosses, there's some pretty good results. Yang is definitely a nice contender for Sharon

[small knot]

I agree!

[pure junco]

Does anyone know any Hollow characters with def down suited for Inferno?

[tribal osprey]

kloss

[small knot]

Hey

We love gray

[tribal osprey]

who?

[pure junco]

We trust in Kloss

[small knot]

I trust in

Uma

[tribal osprey]

Yes

[small knot]

Musume

[pure junco]

Interesting

[glass ruin]

fuqiu only has 119 base speed..?

[indigo oyster]

Yep

[gilded mason]

Slowqiu

Fuq slow

[graceful juniper]

Max those s1 for the sweet spd stats boi

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

With what lattice

[pure junco]

Where does Victor fit if you used him for Inferno?

Feels like the weakest LD character

[gilded mason]

Shittier diting

[pure junco]

Fair point

[gilded mason]

Well hes a tankier diting with less dmg

So depends on what you wanna use him for

Since the meta is all about dps and speed, hes probably not gonna see much use

[pure junco]

Yeah I'll stick with Chiaki, Celince or Rahu

Inferno wise anyway

[gilded mason]

Anyone gonna pull for the new chars?

Idk which to go for

I only have 80 pulls

Na whore or fuq u

[glass ruin]

Perma banner and hit both in a 10

[pure junco]

Maybe for SSR Kraken erm Marvel's Namor

[gilded mason]

We have namor at home

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-6502286207230651503

[pure junco]

Fu seems like a new answer for Aurora but eh

[gilded mason]

Shes green

She gonna die

If she was red or blue

She would be so good

I feel like devs did it on purpose

[graceful juniper]

Wdym....shield is not helping you clear aurora debuff

[pure junco]

I said eh lmao

Y'all are passionate

[gilded mason]

No we're salty af

Thats why we here

[pure junco]

But you reached perfection

[gilded mason]

Not yet

When i do i will change to Perfection

Bruh

I went full 80 for na whore

He was literally the last summon

Devs arent happy i went f2p huh

[cold glen]

Her buff gives a small heal every time someone moves

[ripe kraken]

Same I am going full pity also

But game also will never give me kloss

So I had to get him

[gilded mason]

Devs have compiled names of all in this channel

And nerfed their rates

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

But my alt go in 20 pulls

But it's lily less so it needs that luck

The problem is

Xiada also does def break

What's the use of him now

[pure junco]

DokiDoki

[ripe kraken]

Ye xiada also does def break in doki

Welp

Cope I guess

If ur dps is yeli or xiada not much use

Rilmocha or massiah would love it if u have no kloss

[outer falcon]

Where are you using her?

[gilded mason]

Nawhore kinda useless

[warped kestrel]

Kloss is so much better that I still refuse to pull him even though I don't have a Kloss

I'll keep waiting for that Kloss like I'm saving myself for marriage

[gilded mason]

Without skillup, after he s3 he basically a brick

Get more lattice yall

[outer falcon]

Just use Kraken

[gilded mason]

Ngl his design is cool

Sadly he a useless

[warped kestrel]

Meta over waifu

[gilded mason]

Isnt he suppose to be some balanced judgement type guy. Why does none of his skill have some balancing type effect

Lame skill design man

[small knot]

Use him for aurora

Def break for Rosa comps

Strip and block for debuff stacking

[gilded mason]

I using yeli

5/5/5 yeli

[indigo oyster]

he gonna S3 b4 S2

[small knot]

Ok just say you hate me

[indigo oyster]

lol

[gilded mason]

Gonna do the viper team

[gilded mason]

I hate you

[small knot]

Thank you

Uma

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450

[small knot]

Musume

[gilded mason]

I hate you more than flamel hates jodox cheating

[warped kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382946850365112320/1392220616068698303/image.png?ex=68700f7d&is=686ebdfd&hm=4ee8ca02c26e1aa44c41ef00cc3a2317a8c611e24f4b9bf43423807a27cf12e7&

You made the same mistake I made of thinking this game is being treated seriously and professionally by its devs

[small knot]

Acheron!

From Honkai star rail!

[gilded mason]

AI art at its finest

[warped kestrel]

They can't even get seemingly important words and names right on the characters clothes, and you think they'll make their skills make sense to the character design? Hah

[gilded mason]

Another reason why i dont want to spend anymore

I think copium and false hope is fueling this game

[graceful juniper]

Truep

[gilded mason]

People want it to be the next e7 or sw

[graceful juniper]

I miss that because they put it inside buff lol

[gilded mason]

But i dont think itll happen

[warped kestrel]

Feel the same way. I can't take seriously a game that doesn't take itself seriously to this degree

[gilded mason]

Game is unpolished and has many design flaws

[graceful juniper]

Like did you guys know? The shell that give you ICED buff apparently make it so you have 200% def,cant be debuffed and push back and you can take turn when its your turn?

[warped kestrel]

There are random unemployed people that generate AI art and fix the hands/feet and other defects to perfection, and this company that apparently has multiple million dollar games, can't even correct the simplest fucking things

I'm not even talking about the ethics of AI art, I just want the art to not remind me that they put 0 effort into the game

[graceful juniper]

Its this fkin shell

[gilded mason]

I think its a low investment project from the start

Xd probably doesnt care much even it fails

[warped kestrel]

[inland warren]

Frozen makes you immune to turn meter

[gilded mason]

The quality just isnt there

[inland warren]

Kind of like valerian s3

[graceful juniper]

Its not frozen since if you take your turn you actually move instead of skip it

[inland warren]

Yeah but that makes sense

Otherwise the shell would be shit

[graceful juniper]

Yea but i just assume ICED is frozen while its turnout a buff lmao...immunity+def buff?

[inland warren]

Why would i freeze my character, skip my turn, let the rest of my team die, then freeze expire and the character is there alone

[graceful juniper]

Idk....maybe its a catch to let your char not get killed by the skill

[pure junco]

I used her for Niconana for the most part. Wyrm and HP farming. I'm currently testing her in other places using different modules and comps. So far I like using her with Rosa and SS on one hand

[foggy mirage]

least obvious ai

cheap ass game