#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

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pure junco
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Chatgpt Coding, please do better

ripe kraken
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And dates might have been mixed up

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In the patches

pure junco
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The patch notes doesn't even cover some of the changes

ripe kraken
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Yeah

inland warren
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They might have shadownerfed shadow hoyan

pure junco
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Do your best intern-kun

inland warren
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I have been way more consistent with my runs

pure junco
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Are you sure they did?

inland warren
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No i'm not

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Before i had 50% winrate, now 90

distant wedge
inland warren
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I'll keep farming shadow hoyan the whole day, so i guess i'll have a big enough sample size

pure junco
inland warren
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Yeah they will probably fix it by today, that's good news

pure junco
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Probably because enough people yelled

inland warren
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Even though i don't have yeli

inland warren
surreal bobcat
# distant wedge

maybe this should be an announcement and not a random message that can be lost in a general chat?

surreal bobcat
inland warren
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Yeah, union chat some people are saying the same

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Lmao

open fable
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i guess i am just that unlucky

inland warren
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I wouldn't have the currency to buy stuff the expensive stuff anyway

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After i get the 2 good things, i kind of give up on the event

open fable
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300 free stam

pure junco
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You need a decent union to have enough for bulk purchases

open fable
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and extra lettuce for the whales

open fable
ripe kraken
open fable
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Monka 4th Union boss

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Will it hit like Terror

inland warren
pure junco
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Ah yes, the golden lattice marathon lol

pure junco
ripe kraken
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Only whales will take it down

inland warren
ripe kraken
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I hope it's just for showing

inland warren
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Did whales buy the gold lattice from weekly shop this week?

ripe kraken
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Who knows

inland warren
ripe kraken
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Where is weekly boss

inland warren
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I meant weekly shop

ripe kraken
inland warren
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I was thinking abd typing two different things

ripe kraken
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Not getting that final kill chest

inland warren
ripe kraken
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Why we are going back to past

ripe kraken
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More to boost morale

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Now yeah good luck

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This will turn like another inferno rage bait

inland warren
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Bro I don't know. It seems like complaining for the sake of complaining

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I understand other complaints, this one doesnt even need to be talked about

ripe kraken
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Ye

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But people have now one more reason

inland warren
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I don't think it's a reason to complain. It's just content

ripe kraken
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Imagine they quit cause a union a failed to kill all 4 bosses

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Ye

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But some people think like that

inland warren
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It's like the new anisync stages, can i clear them, no! But eventually i will be and it's there waiting for me

ripe kraken
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Make it 3 k

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Or 4

ripe kraken
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Or increase the hp drain the boss takes from members

inland warren
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I'm still stuck at hein ffs

graceful cradle
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@little elbow

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make that an announcement imo

little elbow
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What annoucement?

ripe kraken
little elbow
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For what

ripe kraken
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He did in gen chat

ripe kraken
graceful cradle
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the yeli bug

little elbow
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O no I won't be making an annoucement about that.

ripe kraken
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He pinned on gen chat

graceful cradle
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is that not what announcement channels are for?

graceful cradle
ripe kraken
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If he made announcement it would just worsen stuff

pure junco
ripe kraken
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That's what he thinks

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As of now

graceful cradle
ripe kraken
pure junco
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The hardcore elitists man

inland warren
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No one is bringing it up

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Who cares if a union of whales clears it and dolphins can't yet

little elbow
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Hey guys, please keep the topic stricly to [Inferno Difficulty] in this thread or I will have to remove you from it. Thanks!

pure junco
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Well that's how the devs intended remember?

ripe kraken
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Ok

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I will be aware of it tq

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Xyro for the warning

inland warren
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Btw i don't know if it's extreme rng but i'm having more success on shadow hoyan inferno

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Yesterday I failed way more runs

pure junco
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What are you using

inland warren
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Diting tsuki mia celince

surreal bobcat
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the rng variance in fights can cause some insane results

ripe kraken
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Yeah

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Like I get constant resists

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Even with 250 eff acc

inland warren
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Then nerf shadow hoyan!!!!!!

ripe kraken
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It's just 10 percent proc

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For me

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I am unlucky

pure junco
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Inferno RNG from what I've seen looks ridiculous

surreal bobcat
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it is its great fun, all you are doing in this game is combatting rng rather than any fight mechanics

pure junco
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That's true

small knot
open fable
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okay jodox

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how?

pure junco
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Crit and Attack it seems

surreal bobcat
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so he is just investing into the ultra burst

open fable
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seems to be manual play tbh

surreal bobcat
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spam that s3

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for beyo to do that, it kinda depends who has the longer cd

lilac lodge
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inland warren
open fable
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CZN seems nice to play

inland warren
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Dunno if it's optimal but it works

small knot
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I see

inland warren
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"Works" if i wouldn't get silenced to death

small knot
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So basically the same thing as my doki2 runs where I say it works as long as my lily and xiada don’t get stunlocked 2 turns in a row which is like 3-4 runs every 10 runs

inland warren
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For doki doki i have 100% winrate basically

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Xiada tsuki doki kazuyo valerian

indigo oyster
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So what the WR for ur Sharon team

inland warren
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I cant clear it lmao

indigo oyster
open fable
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70ish

indigo oyster
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It’s been 2 weeks, can we get more inferno nerfing ready to go

old zephyr
weak meteor
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wild that inferno sharon and rengokutsu rng fights arent being addressed lol

old zephyr
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Sharon deals so much dmg on her own without any dot on u

open fable
weak meteor
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fights being hard is fine, but not rng please

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like sharon u can literally lose the run cause of the wrong dispel from the flowers haha

open fable
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i mean gacha game hard fights are usually either hp inflation or rng into the system

pure junco
tribal osprey
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What is he talking about? You can clear with r characters so no need to fix the economypepethinking

indigo oyster
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This chick ads probably have 200 eff accuracy like asparte dark ads or whatever that ET boss call

pure junco
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Depending on how the gameplay feels, it may just become one of my main games

tribal osprey
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This is false. They released in cn and jp at launch

open fable
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they did?

naive sluice
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they didn't

indigo oyster
indigo oyster
inland warren
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Nvm, i retract my statement about shadownerf to shadow hoyan. I'm getting rng'd again

tribal osprey
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Their launch patch notes

weak meteor
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ye its preregistration

weak meteor
tribal osprey
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Everyone was pre registering… it was before launch

inland warren
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I think they are looking at inferno btw

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More nerfs might come

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That's what i gathered by chatting yesterday with C

weak meteor
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yea, nobody is asking them to nerf it till u can just slap on random team and clear it instantly but rather to make it so that the difficulty isnt too overtuned

inland warren
weak meteor
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like if inferno was supposed to be stepping stone as per the logic then why hoyan was nerfed first before sharon

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yea i know, im just replying it to ppl who keep saying devs said its intended and its just out of context

inland warren
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They agreed that the ladder of progression is broken somewhere, so more nerfs are surely coming. Hopefully sooner rather than later

open fable
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from dev talk its intended. they now are now nerfing it cause they released the inferno mode too soon

small knot
ionic sonnet
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According to sean its intended

inland warren
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I just don't know how fast nerfs are coming

open fable
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i mean if the cap was hell 4 not alot of people would have complained cause that is the ceiling. But sadly the ceiling is inferno stages so yeah

inland warren
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I would hope for something next week to show that they are working on it

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And some people would calm down a little bit

small knot
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Their testing speed doesn’t seem all that fast

tribal osprey
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They stopped the weekly inferno nurfs

indigo oyster
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Sharon,rengo,aurora,terror need another nerf

small knot
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Many bugs are still in the game and have been in the game for a while

open fable
tribal osprey
open fable
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prob testing to make sure it doesnt give so much but also not too little

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my bet is 1.5 lattice if you can clear the so called hell mode

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and 1 lattice for norm or something

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or if greedy 1 lattice for hell and half for norm

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coins prob 2-3m

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unless its a big FU and its gems

ionic sonnet
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Rengo is so difficult and they be giving me trash

weak meteor
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then calling that most rewarding event its kinda joke, xiada event gives 1 gold lattice and u can buy 1 red shadowprint and 1 purple lattice if ur lucky

ionic sonnet
open fable
ionic sonnet
indigo oyster
open fable
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leak stats?

ionic sonnet
indigo oyster
open fable
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well my diting dies too quickly

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💀

weak meteor
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yea its kinda a wild claim to call the upcoming event most rewarding, guess we'll find out soon lol

small knot
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If it doesn’t give 2 perfect lattices I don’t think anyone would dare call it the most rewarding

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Like atp you might as well just make ember trek 2.0 dorodoro

open fable
tribal osprey
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It’s actually funny how you can’t clear the event shop

open fable
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might be no lattice but 10m coins or something

tribal osprey
naive sluice
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the upcoming event will replace the ethernet rally

open fable
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i mean Wuwa had PGR fans

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and they knew

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the vision. they did fk up but they managed to bring back alot of fans with the free shit

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XD doesnt have that kind of background from googling their games

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Ragnarok M

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Sword of Convo

small knot
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Xd doesn’t have any background

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Consider their past games as non existent

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They be acting like they fresh in the scene

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There should have been more qol/nerfs this patch

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Not

tribal osprey
small knot
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Let’s add a new game mode despite some people already complaining about how time consuming our game is!

naive sluice
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They just have to put a fucking x1-30 for everyone not dependant of your clear time. Best QOL

open fable
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not sure how game companies show retention for their games

small knot
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That is just wishful thinking no game would ever do that unless their games focus was in a completely different area

naive sluice
tribal osprey
small knot
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Neither sw nor e7 have that function and for good reasons

tribal osprey
naive sluice
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It’s too much, guys. I have to log in every 20 minutes just to restart my runs… Extreme retention

small knot
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Wait I’m high sorry chat

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No one mentioned insta clear

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please disregard me

small knot
vague violet
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Oops, sorry for the reply, that wasn’t intended.

small knot
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Personally I will be reinstalling sw at the end of the month

vague violet
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E7 is pretty incredible atm, ngl

open fable
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its Anni

vague violet
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5X ML pulls every day for a week

open fable
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E7 anni always have very good downloads

naive sluice
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I’m not sure how many players have reached the point where they can farm Inferno, with a suboptimal team like 4–5 minutes per run.

vague violet
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Plus a free pass with gobs of rewards. Like I’m swimming in resources but still have heroes to build and play with. XD just don’t get it.

small knot
vague violet
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More options is better than less. They want us to PVP but the current meta is whose Lily/ Kloss/ insert speed unit debuffer goes first for everyone that isn’t a sponsored whale.

small knot
vague violet
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99% are strugglebusing on PVE so they can GET to PVP—but won’t because they’ll quit

main elm
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Best is u join a community if u don't want to bother with the official discord

naive sluice
small knot
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Or Rosa

main elm
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There are plenty, I have a community aswell

naive sluice
small knot
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I’m sure someone out there has a rahu clear with more premium supports

naive sluice
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What a freaking gear u need to have

small knot
vague violet
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E7 official discord is fine. But join your guild discord, too, as they’re pretty active in that game

small knot
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I have lily kloss but it was the same time as my freya kloss team just more consistent

small knot
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My current lily spd is 273

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My kloss is 251

open fable
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man using diting 💀

small knot
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My kaz is 249

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My xiada runs a atk crit rate crit dmg right

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Momentum fury

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It’s not super crazy gear compared to what you would need for other clears

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By other clears I mean for shit like Sharon aurora and rengo

graceful cradle
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@ripe kraken i cooked up some spice for my def placements this time

open fable
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oh my guild is against Vanguard today

small knot
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I think my slowest run was 3 minutes when I was running freya kloss

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And that was when my xiada got stun locked

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There are more bruiser comps with Tiamat in them

tribal osprey
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O???????

small knot
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What about the dazzler pulse store shit

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That was unfair

hexed jay
small knot
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Some accounts got their shops reset like the packs

tribal osprey
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This better be a yeli buffpepethinking

thick kettle
main elm
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It's neither, every good Yeli is on rev

tribal osprey
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Like their dazzler shop reset?

small knot
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Yes

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I saw it in a thread

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Idk where it is now

tribal osprey
small knot
turbid ridge
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how many got the reset?

small knot
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Don’t know

turbid ridge
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if anything the whales who didnt get the reset are pissed

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f2p couldnt care less

small knot
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But it seems big enough that they’re fixing it along with the emergency yeli fix

small knot
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I want the 10 pulls

turbid ridge
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uff never buy those ...

azure hare
turbid ridge
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fair

small knot
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Sorry I didn’t save my crystals to max refresh before 2x like a maniac

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It doesn’t even matter for me cus I don’t clear fast enough to clear my 60 stabs

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I could clear those but I would have to stay up and not sleep for two days

turbid ridge
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i have 30k crystal and dont stack. Dont see a reason when we get 2X every 4-5 weeks

azure hare
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think i figured up i could run through about 140 but im about 90 shy of that

turbid ridge
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and not enough time for all that runs

small knot
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I don’t think anybody should have time to no life the 2x events

turbid ridge
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even fast comps take to long no idea how you ahve so much time XD

small knot
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There should honestly be a cap because it creates a major gap for people who decide to sleep and not stack 6000 stamina before the event

azure hare
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i can run through 9 an hour or so

small knot
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9 stabs????

azure hare
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yes

small knot
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900 stamina

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60 minutes

azure hare
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you have to remember im top 10-20 on a lot of leaderboards lol my shit clears stuff fast

turbid ridge
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the thing is even if you 2X threshold no life stack it. You are bottleneck by silver anyway. Same goes for exp farm and gp mats. You will have enough mats for 3-4 units till the enxt 2X drops.

small knot
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15 stamina avg per minute

gilded mason
small knot
gilded mason
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They had one job

small knot
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I’m clearing in 2 minutes

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And I still get bad rng sometimes

azure hare
small knot
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Because I’ve spent like $1 on this game

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👹

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My free Val was very useful

turbid ridge
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last 2X i didnt even get decent gear so in the end its rng anyway

small knot
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I’m manifesting flatten stat right side pieces no inferno gear and also only 2 line spd mods pepethinking

turbid ridge
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one tap red speed on shell or burn 5M and get 0

small knot
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These whales cannot be allowed to progress this far!

pallid rose
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Guys, please, this is not a sprint

turbid ridge
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its isnt you are right

small knot
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No one said you can’t sprint in a marathon

turbid ridge
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log in burn all and go out

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eco doesnt bother me anyway since we all sit in the same boat.

graceful juniper
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Buff inferno more

small knot
graceful juniper
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💪

small knot
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Doesn’t seem like they plan to do much tbh

azure hare
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"usually" they retroactively take back what was purchased

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but these devs are unusually braindead

small knot
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Different accounts prolly bought different packs so no way to equalize except take away the rewards and piss people off or give rewards to everybody and piss whales off

azure hare
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nah if you bought it a second time you knew

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so if you get pissed

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thats on whoever bought it

small knot
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Ehhhhhhhh

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An argument can be made that the consumer shouldn’t suffer because the dev made a mistake in coding

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Not a very good argument but

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It’s still not the players fault that the devs can’t code

azure hare
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i mean its the same thing as getting random money in your bank account

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at some point you have to know you shouldnt do it

small knot
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True

azure hare
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dont get me wrong

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id still try to buy it

small knot
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These people aren’t ready for the -1 perfect lattice in their account

azure hare
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but id expect it to be taken back lol

gilded mason
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Devs probably using ai to code

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I dont think theyll take the lattices back

small knot
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They should just give everyone a free lattice for that

gilded mason
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Just a gut feel

small knot
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Give me a free lattice

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I want a free lattice

gilded mason
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Devs dont like pissing off paying players

turbid ridge
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those are whales anyway not like you catch up. The only ppl who should be mad are whales who did not get it.

small knot
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GIVE ME LATTICES

small knot
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Even whales progression will plateau eventually

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It was the same for e7 and sw and it’ll be the same here

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There won’t be a lot of f2p high tankers but there will be some

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Rankers**

turbid ridge
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i mean it doesnt change much for most of the palyerbase if a whale has 1 lattice more or less

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they should jsut refresh it for all so whales are happy but than the ppl who had the bug refresh get one more again XD

spiral musk
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what is the minimum speed to out speed doki inferno guys?

indigo oyster
turbid ridge
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okay the new server drop are funny af

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with the timing aswell

indigo oyster
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new server drop with 1k player in it

gilded mason
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Neppy just doesnt give a f

indigo oyster
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50% of the player is an alt accountspeechless

gilded mason
turbid ridge
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its common practice and generates good revenue. It jsut looks bad.

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good thing the important modes are global matchmaking

gilded mason
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The entire game has just been a clownfest from the start

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Its pretty hilarious

indigo oyster
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omg my dmg so good on yeli,
atk buff,crit dmg

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why is everybody else doing 20-30k while im doing 10kFrogCoolCry

gilded mason
gilded mason
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Thats probbaly why

turbid ridge
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you stackd atk for reve procs?

gilded mason
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Every dollar spent increases all units stats by a certain amount

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Its hidden

indigo oyster
gilded mason
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So you wont be able to see the stats

turbid ridge
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do 1 atk -1 crit rate - 1 crit dmg

indigo oyster
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even rev aint doing shit

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if i only do 1fua

proud smelt
small knot
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Wait until they fix yeli

tribal osprey
proud smelt
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can you show your Yeli please ?

indigo oyster
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yes im on atk atk atk for that rev proc, but it aint doing enuf dmg

hexed jay
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like 30 minutes ago

indigo oyster
small knot
proud smelt
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yeah, you need a lot more crit dmg, Revelation won't make your Yeli busted like that

indigo oyster
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aint got no good crit dmg piece since i cant farm terrorspeechless

proud smelt
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which tier are you blocked on for terror ?

open fable
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Idk how to tell you duck but its prob better for you to do 12/12 set over using swift raid

indigo oyster
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inferno

proud smelt
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so you can farm h4 ?

indigo oyster
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yeah, but why would i do that

proud smelt
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to get gears ?

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inferno only allow you to get inferno cores, which only lock one slot

small knot
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Terror fears aren’t that relevant tbh

proud smelt
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you still have the rest to farm buddy

small knot
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Gears

proud smelt
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well at least one good set

small knot
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Furyedge

proud smelt
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furyedge only covers one core

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you still have two cores to go

small knot
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What is the good set you’re talking about

indigo oyster
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is this good enough for holden

proud smelt
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+21% crit dmg isn't good

indigo oyster
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diting/yeli, lily,holden,cachi,val

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i can manually clear it but it take a bit of rng

small knot
proud smelt
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idk why you don't want to farm h4 a bit to have better dps tho

small knot
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What sets are you talking about

proud smelt
small knot
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I don’t see the part where you said anything besides farm h4 for better dps sets

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I’m not sure what dps sets you’re talking about

proud smelt
indigo oyster
proud smelt
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maybe that's because i reacted to something

small knot
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If anything he shouldn’t be farming h4 terror

proud smelt
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sure

small knot
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He should be farming aurora

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Keeneye on yeli is a big nope

proud smelt
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his two Revelation are Keeneye

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so...

indigo oyster
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if i have momentum ill use it

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i have this, but no furyedge

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i've fixed my team

main elm
indigo oyster
main elm
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70% crit is easy to get, fury edge would be somewhat redundant

inland warren
main elm
inland warren
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Your reasoning is sound tbh

indigo oyster
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my terror team is undoable with yeli😂

inland warren
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You get some attack and speed for more turns

main elm
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U can never get enough speed and attack
Crit however, yeah specially when u only need 70% on her

main elm
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Fury edge on diting and Rosa

Coz Rosa doesn't need turns to do her most damage, her most damage from co-op attacks, make her hit hard and that's it.

Diting will always want more crit and crit damage + burst unit

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Though swift on Rosa isn't that bad, it's kinda equal, coz she also only need 70% crit

inland warren
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By going swiftraid you need 20% crit rate from substat and 1 crit rate right piece to get to 100%

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Can be done, but you need decent gear

main elm
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U can also roll crit on ur shell if ur rolls didn't go crit at all

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Though I hate taking crit over critdmg or speed

inland warren
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Crit dmg is just better

main elm
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Crit and critdmg have the exact same value on shell, it's just ppl go critdmg coz it's open ended stat

ripe kraken
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We are opening another server

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Wow

half lodge
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Why is there Opened another server

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Seriously

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I cant totally understand that

main elm
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Wut

half lodge
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Check announcemnet

main elm
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Idk, current servers are full or what peeposhrug

tribal osprey
half lodge
tribal osprey
half lodge
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The only game i Heard this funny sentence was lost ark

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Where people were excusing game having baddroprates and cosuming 24 h a day of your time

modern dragon
main elm
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Tbh at this point I think it's the exact same ppl that play and join different games and say the exact same shit to every game just to rage bait

main elm
tribal osprey
modern dragon
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Yeah they could've just made cr 20%, it's not a huge diff tho but it is a bit odd

main elm
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Yup

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Makes a whole lot different for min maxers

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So the game shouldn't do that at all

open fable
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@main elm BRO EUPHINA in CZN ICANT

graceful juniper
distant wedge
gilded mason
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i mean

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unit

open fable
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nsfw

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kewk

main elm
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Who tf is euphina worrytrauma

open fable
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Luna vibes

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Well CZN was made by the OG E7 devs seems to be good

main elm
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Air balloons

uncut mica
#

The Yeli bug was funny this morning. Best I can tell from a quick look through the files they accidentally linked the new Yeli enemy for the dream mode to the regular Yeli unit

main elm
distant wedge
open fable
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i mean

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its same e7 company so

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yeah fan service kinda going hard

tribal osprey
weak meteor
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the guy working on that saw 2 yelis and chose the wrong one is my guess lmao

uncut mica
# tribal osprey So it had nothing to do with regular yeli or?

Basically was just a coding fuckup that wasn't caught. They've got Yeli as an enemy in the dream maze mode coming next week that only has 1x followup and it was copied over from that to the regular Yeli because filenames are basically the same and someone fucked up

tribal osprey
#

So if we didn’t play since yesterday she is the same

uncut mica
#

yeah if you didn't play in the time between the patch dropping and the flash update then it's the same now as it was yesterday

mental mural
marsh topaz
#

how did u guys beat anisync jacques?

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i tried obol + fangus with lily and perma stun the side mobs but didn't do enough dmg before he oneshot me

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also tried celince to prevent him from fua but she's off element and get's oblitirated without landing her thing

graceful cradle
main elm
#

did they shadow nerf Yeli ? my battlewill Yeli is doing far more less consecutive attacks today....

inland warren
main elm
outer falcon
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They're probably saving you tbh. You just missed like 3 months of anni which would've felt amazing, now they're kind of in an off season. E7 better until next March zf_hahaha

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Where's the new unit and game mode btw I thought that was coming overnight

abstract geode
#

I, Ye Li, haven’t even had a chance to enjoy myself yet and it’s been secretly changed?

outer falcon
small knot
#

Sw anni are mostly the same anyways

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Huge time sink where you need to spend 1000s of stamina

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It’s easy to spend stamina but i have better things to do

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Sand all that for like two nat5s and a bunch of scrolls just to be disappointed when I get my 10th copy of some useless rgb5

outer falcon
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Oh I love it. The energy is endless. I spent like 50k crystals

small knot
#

But yeah I’ve been through like 5 sw anniversaries

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They aren’t that game changing

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Maybe for a new player

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But as an older player I like the game during off season

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That’s a hot take I know

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But I just like having time to play other games that I like

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That’s why I stopped playing sw

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Not that Etheria is any less of a time sink

outer falcon
#

Aaah

outer falcon
inland warren
outer falcon
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Yeah. Just takes a crazy long time

inland warren
#

Rengo/sharon/hoyan are just dumb

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No matter how good your units are. You can get rng'd

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And rengo is just overtuned all around

outer falcon
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I entered Rengo once a couple weeks ago dv_frogKekOwO

inland warren
#

But the revelation seem pretty far away

pallid rose
#

So guys, is everything working as intended? Just checking

ripe kraken
pallid rose
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Ok ok. Good. Remember it’s a marathon.

tall flame
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lettss goooo

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cage rumble 3k score acquired

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got those juicy lattice frags

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I didn't think I was going to get it before it went away

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yeah I've played a lot of cuphead

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such a good game

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same same, I did like 2-3 playthroughs with friends

ripe kraken
#

We have to talk only inferno here

tall flame
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lol

left snow
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this nahor wank

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i am looking forward to it

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how people react after using him after hyping him so much

glass ruin
#

dont like design too

tribal osprey
ripe kraken
#

Yes

mental mural
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The infernal hell marathon
The trail of endless suffering

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The trail to make us all delulu

ripe kraken
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After u beat every infernos u completed etheria congrats

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If ur interested u can play pvp that's it

mental mural
#

Only 6 more months before we can complete all of them

ripe kraken
#

I have lily

mental mural
#

L. You're jot capable of understanding the grind

ripe kraken
#

Yep

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U guys are the real work force

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That grind without lily

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Hatsoff

mental mural
#

Imagine chasing after the best unit in the game.
Couldn't be me

outer falcon
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How it feels loading into phantom theater and alt tabbing while a lily owner carries me to sss

mental mural
#

Fr

half lodge
mental mural
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I've only gem refreshed for around 15 days
All my gems went into her

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Im 30 levels behind most players

half lodge
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I reccomend building yang liully is good because she turn meter pushes and yang
also pushes turn

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its a good alternaitve

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I also reccomend obol for mustache

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Turst me i am rank 50 in rta

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and 1st in guild war

main elm
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https://youtu.be/3_B2-jaHAmQ?si=tOIWUCEfhDbqfwSB
sry guys but the game looks fakin beautiful, totally jumping ship on that one

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turbid ridge
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this will take 3+ month i bet

main elm
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good enough

turbid ridge
#

but it looks good i like that art stylea and gameplay

main elm
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enough to see clear path in this game

hexed jay
#

it's a different type of game

main elm
#

my biggest plus in that game is the atmosphere, it feels like a straight upgrade from darkest dungeon

turbid ridge
#

no pvp it seems which might kill it for me if the replay value is not given

main elm
#

I'm also a "pvp gacha only" person but lately that path took me to flop after flop after flop

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time to change pace

pallid rose
#

this game is going to be great

hexed jay
turbid ridge
#

pve games always get boring fast for me. But its a rogue like game so maybe random dungeon is fun on the long run.

pallid rose
#

outerplane is not the same devs mann

hexed jay
#

Still by the same company

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and there is no changing that

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If the management is all the same then it's not really any different

main elm
#

u know what's the same company

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Lost ark

graceful cradle
#

The studios are who makes the game

inland warren
main elm
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cardophobic

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how dare u

inland warren
#

I don't even know how they work, but it doesn't inspire me much

main elm
#

ngl cards is w/e for me

graceful cradle
#

It made me think of FGO

main elm
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hope the gameplay is solid

inland warren
#

I might try it when it comes out and form my own opinion

graceful cradle
#

I probably won't play i don't need another Star Rail

main elm
#

the showcase still doesn't give me any gameplay feel, have to try it myself and see

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inb4 Talentless guild in CZN

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u know it, it will happen

graceful cradle
main elm
#

weak

pallid rose
hexed jay
graceful cradle
#

They'll have a channel though I'm sure

graceful cradle
#

The studio that made Outerplane had nothing to do with Epic Seven it was just funded by SG

tribal sluice
#

Pretty sure these devs were like fuck you playerbase when they designed this anisync floor

main elm
#

outerplane it out of existence

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and never come again

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dogshit game

graceful cradle
#

Supercreative however made E7 and is making CZN

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That you can use it for

pallid rose
#

yep

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you are well informed my friend

graceful cradle
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I mean i game with Eden usually

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So i play everything on the market

pallid rose
#

Just by looking at outerplane and CZN you can clearly see that they are completely different products.

graceful cradle
#

Yup CZN is gonna be the better sci fi game lol

main elm
#

outerplane feels like a scrapped project, left for years and after a decade the company decided to dust it off and shove it, run it

pallid rose
#

and you can see the signature of the SuperCreative devs

graceful cradle
#

Plus it has Supercreatives 2d anime style

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Which I'd say is their bnb

main elm
#

outerplane looks soooooooooo old

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for it's time release

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like mega old

main elm
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though idk what happened to Kayron, I think he is smilegate official "zoro" dude lost his direction and ended up in CZN

graceful cradle
#

Tenebria and Karin are also in it iirc

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At least I remember they confirmed Tene in the promo

main elm
#

a 5th tenebria

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damn

graceful cradle
#

6th

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Earth is rumored to also have been teased

hexed jay
main elm
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it's gotta stop

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6 is alot

graceful cradle
hexed jay
graceful cradle
#

Nope but it's heavily inspired by E7 and atm arguably worse to play

main elm
#

nah it's singapore

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it's from singapore

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play it

inland warren
#

Tbf bobas and animations in this czn game look pretty insane

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Especially the bobas

graceful cradle
#

Yeah SG has decided to cash in on the gooner craze lately

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Crazy to believe they once tried to censor Aria and did censor SSV for a Pegi 13 rating

inland warren
#

I'm the target audience

hexed jay
main elm
#

the mental break down art is wild, I already can see the future when the devs go bit too "wild" with the art, some of them already pretty SUS duckek

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it'll turn to full degen game

graceful cradle
graceful cradle
#

I can't believe everyone is AYufine in this game

graceful cradle
hexed jay
graceful cradle
hexed jay
#

You're forgetting the fact that E7 was just as bad, probably a lot worse when it came out

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Having to manual every run of wyvern

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no gear load outs

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needing fribbels to optimize gearing

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shop refreshing for gear

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idk man

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there's probably more I can add but I can't remember it all

graceful cradle
#

@hexed jay you're right multiple 1000+ posts active within 2 days is the absolute poster child of glowing game health. E7 has issues but not like this

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That said I like both games but you're just being delusional

graceful cradle
hexed jay
graceful cradle
#

Which is currently cannibalizing it's playerbase

tribal osprey
graceful cradle
turbid ridge
#

if 2025 e7 would be good most of us wouldnt be here

hexed jay
#

No gacha ever did

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No gacha ever will

tribal osprey
hexed jay
graceful cradle
#

No you're just retarded

hexed jay
#

now you're turning to insults

graceful cradle
#

I'm not going to waste time arguing with someone who can't even be objective

inland warren
inland chasm
graceful cradle
#

A game a month into it's release is averaging less viewers than a 7 year old game which also has a lot of issues

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That's not a good thing

hexed jay
graceful cradle
tribal osprey
warped stump
#

this channel has degenerated into discussion about which new gacha will do better than e:r lmao

tribal osprey
inland warren
#

God those czn trailers look insane. Story seem interesting too

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Is it just pve, no pvp?

hexed jay
graceful cradle
# turbid ridge if 2025 e7 would be good most of us wouldnt be here

A lot of people have already left. More probably will. The game will get better eventually but anyone deluding themselves to think that things as they are now is comparable to current E7 even with it's issues is crazy. The game from the beta was in a much better place to be successful

inland warren
#

If ER still going i could play both tbh

hexed jay
#

This has been proven wrong time and time again

tribal osprey
hexed jay
graceful cradle
hexed jay
#

Most games don't have a lot of viewers but they have a lot of people playing instead

tribal osprey
inland warren
tribal osprey
#

In this case e7

inland warren
#

It's unexplainable

hexed jay
inland warren
#

Like 3000 views, a new character's video. 3k views

inland warren
#

It's just surprising

graceful cradle
#

Yeli released and there was sub 500 viewers on twitch

#

Even in the worst gachas typically a new character release is fairly huge

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If you don't think the viewership has any correlation how empty are your guilds

hexed jay
#

probably has to do with the fact that this game isn't even released in a lot of huge countries like China itself

inland warren
#

Yeli PV had 350k views. Fuqiu PV has 3k

graceful cradle
#

You think they'd let them do what's happening here?

pallid rose
inland chasm
#

China has their own yt so we wouldnt even notice

hexed jay
#

It really did not come out with everything the day it released...

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Every update took time

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took years

graceful cradle
#

When there was zero competition

pallid rose
#

When e7 came out years ago, it was in competition with games that came out years ago. The game was able to survive solely because of that. The economy of the game might've been bad by today's standards but they clearly weren't so bad in comparison to other games at the time. The competition at the time was Fire Emblem Heroes, Dragalia Lost, Azur lane, a couple of Dragonball and final fantasy games. A lot of these games had bad economy at the time, and were exceptionally grindy. All of those games (that are still alive today) got better. Why? because their competition got better as well.

graceful cradle
#

ER isn't releasing in a field like that

hexed jay
#

And all the other games back then released the same way

tribal osprey
pallid rose
#

Comparing a game that released last month to epic seven when it came out is delusional because it's not competing in the market of 2018 or 2020 epic seven. It's competing with 2025 epic seven and a load of other popular turn based gacha games. That's like taking the first iphone and expecting it to compete in today's market of smartphones....... it wouldn't work

tribal osprey
#

Same way wuwa has genshin as an example of what not to do

mental mural
graceful cradle
#

Etheria as it is now cannot survive in this landscape if changes aren't seen fast

hexed jay
#

It's like asking a newborn human to instantly be an adult the moment it came out of it's mother.

graceful cradle
#

Gacha gamers are not loyal

pallid rose
#

Epic seven TODAY has an infinitely better gearing experience and new player experience than ER. You're either lying or you don't play the game aka ignorant if you think otherwise. Most of the gold sink on e7 for current players is shop refresh and swapping gear (which is rumored to be removed soon.) The daily coin income on ER is like 800k coins if you use it all on inferno + have monthly supply card. That's barely enough to max out a single gear. Stop it already.

hexed jay
#

of development

tribal osprey
graceful cradle
#

That's the reality of things

hexed jay
graceful cradle
#

Like never forget Tribe Nine

hexed jay
#

lol

graceful cradle
#

Nope not even remotely the same

#

There's literally more direct competitors to E7 SW and ER releasing this year

inland warren
graceful cradle
#

It's not even close to how things were back in 2018

tribal osprey
graceful cradle
mental mural
tribal osprey
#

Just remember tribe90k

inland warren
hexed jay
inland warren
#

We will see next month how revenue is

graceful cradle
tribal osprey
#

Let me find out

graceful cradle
#

I bet you Rebirth won't fumble the bag this hard

#

Even if it will be giga p2w

inland chasm
#

Idk its netmarble...

graceful cradle
#

True lol

pallid rose
graceful cradle
#

But still considering we had HSR crowd too 7m is a really low amount

#

It could have easily been 20m+

inland warren
#

I'm not so sure hsr people came to the game

#

Or at least not that many

graceful cradle
#

Marketing plus HSR creators

#

The first few days was rife with them complaining about pvp lol

hexed jay
tired socket
#

Who gives a fuck as long as the game is profitable it will livr

#

7 mil or 20

#

Doesnt matter to players

inland warren
pallid rose
tribal osprey
#

Nvm @inland warren

tired socket
#

Yeah but how much is healthy and populated

#

Things getting blown way out of proportion here

inland warren
#

Having the same amount of players as e7 would be a success

graceful cradle
#

Are they though there's been a severe drop in interest in the game in all forms of media

inland chasm
#

If a agame makes 5M ots already doing pretty good some games wont even go over 1M

graceful cradle
#

That's usually indicative of a larger issue

tired socket
#

Almost every gacha experiences that a month after launch

graceful cradle
tired socket
#

Interest drops revenue drops

#

Theres some exceptions yes

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But this is afterall despite its huge marketing budget a game that will long term only cater to a niche audience

main elm
tired socket
#

By the nature of how it is

mental mural
tired socket
#

And dont get me wrong im not defending any of the fuck ups xd did in this game

main elm
#

I meant the last few PvP gacha games I went through were all flops after flop, and I'm getting tired of it

tired socket
#

But i still feel it getting blown out of proportion

mental mural
graceful cradle
#

You're right this is totally the hallmark of a healthy playerbase

pallid rose
#

Google Trends shows a decrease of interest in the game by 83%

main elm
inland chasm
full delta
#

well honeymoon phase is over and people are disgruntled with the game

tribal osprey
graceful cradle
inland chasm
graceful cradle
#

But if you wanna see Yeli get rolled that bad hold up lol

mental mural
mental mural
#

We even lose in the gooner category

#

Pathetic

main elm
#

The game art being DOG doesn't really help anyone seeing the game as "oh this game looks good" to try it

glass ruin
#

kill me

inland chasm
#

But tbf most player watched the trailer in the meetup stream or hyperlink stream so i didnt watch them aswell

main elm
#

Another train

left snow
#

yeah

graceful cradle
left snow
#

train should be fine now that we have gear ?

#

and i didnt dislike kloss event previously

glass ruin
#

chakuring is back

tribal osprey
#

YELIIIIIII

main elm
#

Also the cards shit despairge

tribal osprey
#

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE

hexed jay
glass ruin
#

my favorite is just cubic game

left snow
#

i like xiada song event for the free lattice

glass ruin
#

why is this my s rank?

left snow
#

i wish we got a free lattice from every event

graceful cradle
mental mural
graceful cradle
#

They google stove

#

That's how you get to their news lol

hexed jay
tribal osprey
graceful cradle
#

No you Google Etheria

mental mural
#

Vs EtheLily Reroll

graceful cradle
tribal osprey
inland warren
main elm
tired socket
#

They all czn

main elm
#

really

tired socket
#

Ya

tribal osprey
#

But does the horse girl game clear Etheria?pepethinking that is the biggest question

main elm
#

guess they have many different artists

inland warren
main elm
#

coz art is very different from other

inland warren
#

💦💦💦

pallid rose
glass ruin
#

what upcoming games are there

#

does anyone know

tired socket
#

Im as hyped about czn like no other game in many years ngl

main elm
#

sitting in ER discord and all going "goosling" moment on another game

graceful cradle
main elm
mental mural
hexed jay
tired socket
#

Idk

mental mural
tribal osprey
main elm
tired socket
#

I usually dont rly give a fuck about those things if i like a game i like a game idgaf what other ppl think

hexed jay
#

that's how it should be

main elm
tired socket
inland warren
#

Man czn got milkers

#

Dayum

mental mural
main elm
#

aight stop gooning, stop, GOONING

pallid rose
#

the desperate struggling of the defeated never ceases to amuse me

mental mural
#

Devs actually care
LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE

tribal osprey
graceful cradle
glass ruin
#

y does gameplay look like morimens

mental mural
hexed jay
tribal osprey
mental mural
#

Not this shit

tribal osprey
#

Hang on I got you

tired socket
#

DAM THIS LILY HATER

mental mural
hexed jay
mental mural
chrome meteor
#

This thread is cooked

main elm
#

tbh lily prob the best 2d art in the whole fucking ER, at least it's the only one that got AI generated nicely

mental mural
main elm
#

we lost Blaze

mental mural
#

Than this

main elm
#

dude gone

#

goon gone

hexed jay
#

but they ain't in this game

mental mural
#

And this is just me being honest

graceful cradle
inland warren
#

💦

mental mural
pallid rose
#

Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance. I see some of ER players are already at stage 5, but a few still remain in stage 1.

main elm
# graceful cradle

not a boob hater since I commissioned ML Luna for my community banner, but this LOOKS LIKE SHIT

mental mural
#

Game has good potential

graceful cradle
mental mural
#

Great potential

graceful cradle
inland warren
graceful cradle
tribal osprey
graceful cradle
#

You're not counting the fan are you?

inland warren
#

What?

tired socket
#

Am i stupid her hand looks fine to me

graceful cradle
#

No he's just blind lol

inland warren
#

4 finger and 1 thumb makes 5 fingers

graceful cradle
#

Carry on gooning

tribal osprey
graceful cradle
tribal osprey
#

Idk it looks fine to me

mental mural
inland warren
#

The thumb is on the fan, plus 4 fingers lol

graceful cradle
#

She definitely doesn't look AI drawn to me