#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k
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I feel like the patching went wrong
And dates might have been mixed up
In the patches
The patch notes doesn't even cover some of the changes
Yeah
They might have shadownerfed shadow hoyan
Do your best intern-kun
I have been way more consistent with my runs
Are you sure they did?
I'll keep farming shadow hoyan the whole day, so i guess i'll have a big enough sample size
At least they're quick.
Yeah they will probably fix it by today, that's good news
Probably because enough people yelled
Even though i don't have yeli
Nah bro, they would have fixed it anyway. Quickly reporting it brought awareness
maybe this should be an announcement and not a random message that can be lost in a general chat?
🤷♂️ are we surprised?
you are right, i was expecting logic. im sorry
i guess i am just that unlucky
I wouldn't have the currency to buy stuff the expensive stuff anyway
After i get the 2 good things, i kind of give up on the event
300 free stam
You need a decent union to have enough for bulk purchases
and extra lettuce for the whales
its the xiada event
No it's the xiada event
Ah yes, the golden lattice marathon lol
I wonder why there's a 4th now
If it has really that much hp
Only whales will take it down

Not even provably
I hope it's just for showing
Did whales buy the gold lattice from weekly shop this week?
Who knows
I mean, it's more rewards and stuff. It's not for show lol
Where is weekly boss
Ah so we have to really go cry again as our beginning days
I was thinking abd typing two different things
Not getting that final kill chest
I mean rewards arent really that huge
Why we are going back to past
It feels like a confidence in union honestly
More to boost morale
Now yeah good luck
This will turn like another inferno rage bait
Bro I don't know. It seems like complaining for the sake of complaining
I understand other complaints, this one doesnt even need to be talked about
I don't think it's a reason to complain. It's just content
Imagine they quit cause a union a failed to kill all 4 bosses
Ye
But some people think like that
It's like the new anisync stages, can i clear them, no! But eventually i will be and it's there waiting for me
agreed
Or increase the hp drain the boss takes from members
I'm still stuck at hein ffs
What annoucement?
For what
He did in gen chat
Yei bug
the yeli bug
O no I won't be making an annoucement about that.
He pinned on gen chat
is that not what announcement channels are for?
cuz people read pins all the time
If he made announcement it would just worsen stuff
Who knows? Phase 3 is strong enough as is
have you seen this community lol
Ye but who gonna beat a 10 k hp 4 th boss
The hardcore elitists man
Dunno man. It's a non-issue
No one is bringing it up
Who cares if a union of whales clears it and dolphins can't yet
Hey guys, please keep the topic stricly to [Inferno Difficulty] in this thread or I will have to remove you from it. Thanks!
Well that's how the devs intended remember?
Btw i don't know if it's extreme rng but i'm having more success on shadow hoyan inferno
Yesterday I failed way more runs
What are you using
Diting tsuki mia celince
its extreme rng
the rng variance in fights can cause some insane results
Then nerf shadow hoyan!!!!!!
Inferno RNG from what I've seen looks ridiculous
it is its great fun, all you are doing in this game is combatting rng rather than any fight mechanics
That's true
What’s mia there for
Crit and Attack it seems
dorothy, beyo and cachi al give you an extra turn
so he is just investing into the ultra burst
seems to be manual play tbh
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More healing, small shield and cd reduction
CZN seems nice to play
Dunno if it's optimal but it works
I see
"Works" if i wouldn't get silenced to death
So basically the same thing as my doki2 runs where I say it works as long as my lily and xiada don’t get stunlocked 2 turns in a row which is like 3-4 runs every 10 runs
So what the WR for ur Sharon team
I don't have a sharon team
I cant clear it lmao

It’s been 2 weeks, can we get more inferno nerfing ready to go
That dispel just ruins everything for me in sharon
wild that inferno sharon and rengokutsu rng fights arent being addressed lol
Sharon deals so much dmg on her own without any dot on u
According to Sean the devs wanted it this way

fights being hard is fine, but not rng please
like sharon u can literally lose the run cause of the wrong dispel from the flowers haha
i mean gacha game hard fights are usually either hp inflation or rng into the system
Yeah I was considering preregistration. Good thing there was something after all this time
What is he talking about? You can clear with r characters so no need to fix the economy
This chick ads probably have 200 eff accuracy like asparte dark ads or whatever that ET boss call
Depending on how the gameplay feels, it may just become one of my main games
This is false. They released in cn and jp at launch
they did?
they didn't
Talk about everything that we’re complaining
Economy issue
Shell passive
Bla bla bla
Don’t think sooo
Nvm, i retract my statement about shadownerf to shadow hoyan. I'm getting rng'd again
Working as intended
ye its preregistration
by that logic niconana and hoyan was also working as intended but they tuned it down cause it was too overtuned
Everyone was pre registering… it was before launch
I think they are looking at inferno btw
More nerfs might come
That's what i gathered by chatting yesterday with C
yea, nobody is asking them to nerf it till u can just slap on random team and clear it instantly but rather to make it so that the difficulty isnt too overtuned
Yeah, and as i said, i think it's being looked at
like if inferno was supposed to be stepping stone as per the logic then why hoyan was nerfed first before sharon
yea i know, im just replying it to ppl who keep saying devs said its intended and its just out of context
They agreed that the ladder of progression is broken somewhere, so more nerfs are surely coming. Hopefully sooner rather than later
from dev talk its intended. they now are now nerfing it cause they released the inferno mode too soon
I won’t believe it until I see it
According to sean its intended
Obviously i'm not 100% sold yet. But yesterday C said that the difficulty is still being looked at
I just don't know how fast nerfs are coming
i mean if the cap was hell 4 not alot of people would have complained cause that is the ceiling. But sadly the ceiling is inferno stages so yeah
I would hope for something next week to show that they are working on it
And some people would calm down a little bit
Not fast enough I think their speed tells us a lot about what will be done with things moving forward
Their testing speed doesn’t seem all that fast
Nah. They aren’t doing anything
They stopped the weekly inferno nurfs
Sharon,rengo,aurora,terror need another nerf
Many bugs are still in the game and have been in the game for a while
cause of the new rewarding event 
Didn’t he call us complainers for saying that?
prob testing to make sure it doesnt give so much but also not too little
my bet is 1.5 lattice if you can clear the so called hell mode
and 1 lattice for norm or something
or if greedy 1 lattice for hell and half for norm
coins prob 2-3m
unless its a big FU and its gems

Rengo is so difficult and they be giving me trash
then calling that most rewarding event its kinda joke, xiada event gives 1 gold lattice and u can buy 1 red shadowprint and 1 purple lattice if ur lucky
i mean it depends right?
5/5 Yeli?
Diting
At least he know the glaring issue that the game have
Should also showing people that not everyone need SSR to clear stuff but his guide are mostly in the hell side and not inferno
leak stats?
U can even buy more lattice with the pack in the shop
yea its kinda a wild claim to call the upcoming event most rewarding, guess we'll find out soon lol
If it doesn’t give 2 perfect lattices I don’t think anyone would dare call it the most rewarding
Like atp you might as well just make ember trek 2.0 
ngl tho but i think that event was suppose to be the answer to games econ problem
It’s actually funny how you can’t clear the event shop
might be no lattice but 10m coins or something
Hopefully they do it how wuwa did it. But knowing the devs it will probably won’t be
the upcoming event will replace the ethernet rally
i mean Wuwa had PGR fans
and they knew
the vision. they did fk up but they managed to bring back alot of fans with the free shit
XD doesnt have that kind of background from googling their games
Ragnarok M
Sword of Convo
Xd doesn’t have any background
Consider their past games as non existent
They be acting like they fresh in the scene
There should have been more qol/nerfs this patch
Not
Yeah. The Seanb video today seemed like he had just given up
Let’s add a new game mode despite some people already complaining about how time consuming our game is!
Link pls
Etheria Restart Economy Situation
Business email: [email protected]
They just have to put a fucking x1-30 for everyone not dependant of your clear time. Best QOL
i guess its to force people to log in and boost their rentention to show to investors play rate probs
not sure how game companies show retention for their games
Wait, what is this?
That is just wishful thinking no game would ever do that unless their games focus was in a completely different area
They’re pushing the limits of what an average player can take.
Yeah. Summoners war’s auto battlers forces you to have the game opened or it won’t run. While this one you can log off and it completes. Which is why they probably won’t add more than 10 anytime soon
Neither sw nor e7 have that function and for good reasons
Wdym? Sw has a 30x
It’s too much, guys. I have to log in every 20 minutes just to restart my runs… Extreme retention
A 30x insta clear????
Wait I’m high sorry chat
No one mentioned insta clear
please disregard me
Aren’t you excited to be online for 48 hours when 2x event drops
it does show play rate right?

Isn’t SeanB playing E7 now like all the other Etheriaoutcasts?
Oops, sorry for the reply, that wasn’t intended.
Probably
Personally I will be reinstalling sw at the end of the month
E7 is pretty incredible atm, ngl
its Anni
5X ML pulls every day for a week
E7 anni always have very good downloads
I’m not sure how many players have reached the point where they can farm Inferno, with a suboptimal team like 4–5 minutes per run.
Plus a free pass with gobs of rewards. Like I’m swimming in resources but still have heroes to build and play with. XD just don’t get it.
timauess cup
f2p inferno pve
Or I will be installing tiantian billiards
More options is better than less. They want us to PVP but the current meta is whose Lily/ Kloss/ insert speed unit debuffer goes first for everyone that isn’t a sponsored whale.
A doki 2 min clear is pretty doable afaik
99% are strugglebusing on PVE so they can GET to PVP—but won’t because they’ll quit
Best is u join a community if u don't want to bother with the official discord
Yeah if u build a Rilmo
There are plenty, I have a community aswell
2 min run with xiada and rosa ? Hu
I’m sure someone out there has a rahu clear with more premium supports
What a freaking gear u need to have
I’m doing 2 min runs
E7 official discord is fine. But join your guild discord, too, as they’re pretty active in that game
I have lily kloss but it was the same time as my freya kloss team just more consistent
It wasn’t really high
My current lily spd is 273
My kloss is 251
man using diting 💀
My kaz is 249
My xiada runs a atk crit rate crit dmg right
Momentum fury
It’s not super crazy gear compared to what you would need for other clears
By other clears I mean for shit like Sharon aurora and rengo
@ripe kraken i cooked up some spice for my def placements this time
I think my slowest run was 3 minutes when I was running freya kloss
And that was when my xiada got stun locked
There are more bruiser comps with Tiamat in them
O???????
Devs did not listen
Some accounts got their shops reset like the packs
This better be a yeli buff
theres free packs and discounted tix
It's neither, every good Yeli is on rev
Wdym?
Like their dazzler shop reset?
If it affects the number of rev procs then it would be a buff or nurf 
how many got the reset?
Don’t know
But it seems big enough that they’re fixing it along with the emergency yeli fix
uff never buy those ...
some people play for pulls not refreshes
fair
Sorry I didn’t save my crystals to max refresh before 2x like a maniac
It doesn’t even matter for me cus I don’t clear fast enough to clear my 60 stabs
I could clear those but I would have to stay up and not sleep for two days
i have 30k crystal and dont stack. Dont see a reason when we get 2X every 4-5 weeks
think i figured up i could run through about 140 but im about 90 shy of that
and not enough time for all that runs
I don’t think anybody should have time to no life the 2x events
even fast comps take to long no idea how you ahve so much time XD
There should honestly be a cap because it creates a major gap for people who decide to sleep and not stack 6000 stamina before the event
i can run through 9 an hour or so
yes
you have to remember im top 10-20 on a lot of leaderboards lol my shit clears stuff fast
the thing is even if you 2X threshold no life stack it. You are bottleneck by silver anyway. Same goes for exp farm and gp mats. You will have enough mats for 3-4 units till the enxt 2X drops.
15 stamina avg per minute

Yeah but think about the average player 
They had one job
theres probably $1000+ difference tho lol
Yes
Because I’ve spent like $1 on this game
👹
My free Val was very useful
last 2X i didnt even get decent gear so in the end its rng anyway
Let’s pray on whales downfall
I’m manifesting flatten stat right side pieces no inferno gear and also only 2 line spd mods 
one tap red speed on shell or burn 5M and get 0
These whales cannot be allowed to progress this far!
Guys, please, this is not a sprint
its isnt you are right
No one said you can’t sprint in a marathon
log in burn all and go out
eco doesnt bother me anyway since we all sit in the same boat.
2 line speed mod with not right main stats? Damn those whale can even get the gear....its too damn fast,we need them to fail every run
Buff inferno more
💪
Doesn’t seem like they plan to do much tbh
"usually" they retroactively take back what was purchased
but these devs are unusually braindead
Different accounts prolly bought different packs so no way to equalize except take away the rewards and piss people off or give rewards to everybody and piss whales off
nah if you bought it a second time you knew
so if you get pissed
thats on whoever bought it
Ehhhhhhhh
An argument can be made that the consumer shouldn’t suffer because the dev made a mistake in coding
Not a very good argument but
It’s still not the players fault that the devs can’t code
i mean its the same thing as getting random money in your bank account
at some point you have to know you shouldnt do it
True
These people aren’t ready for the -1 perfect lattice in their account
but id expect it to be taken back lol
Just a gut feel
Devs dont like pissing off paying players
those are whales anyway not like you catch up. The only ppl who should be mad are whales who did not get it.
GIVE ME LATTICES
Nah eventually f2p will catch up
Even whales progression will plateau eventually
It was the same for e7 and sw and it’ll be the same here
There won’t be a lot of f2p high tankers but there will be some
Rankers**
i mean it doesnt change much for most of the palyerbase if a whale has 1 lattice more or less
they should jsut refresh it for all so whales are happy but than the ppl who had the bug refresh get one more again XD
what is the minimum speed to out speed doki inferno guys?
287 or something
new server drop with 1k player in it
Neppy just doesnt give a f
50% of the player is an alt account

its common practice and generates good revenue. It jsut looks bad.
good thing the important modes are global matchmaking
omg my dmg so good on yeli,
atk buff,crit dmg
why is everybody else doing 20-30k while im doing 10k
Are u a whale
Thats probbaly why
you stackd atk for reve procs?
yes
So you wont be able to see the stats
do 1 atk -1 crit rate - 1 crit dmg
isn't it Sharon here ?
Wait until they fix yeli
Yep and he’s on an attack build it seems
can you show your Yeli please ?
yes im on atk atk atk for that rev proc, but it aint doing enuf dmg
Am I just too unlucky to see the difference chat
yeah, you need a lot more crit dmg, Revelation won't make your Yeli busted like that
aint got no good crit dmg piece since i cant farm terror
which tier are you blocked on for terror ?
Idk how to tell you duck but its prob better for you to do 12/12 set over using swift raid
inferno
so you can farm h4 ?
yeah, but why would i do that
to get gears ?
inferno only allow you to get inferno cores, which only lock one slot
Terror fears aren’t that relevant tbh
you still have the rest to farm buddy
Gears
well at least one good set
What is the good set you’re talking about
is this good enough for holden
+21% crit dmg isn't good
diting/yeli, lily,holden,cachi,val
i can manually clear it but it take a bit of rng
I’d say he could use some more speed but it’s 265+ so overall the build is fine
idk why you don't want to farm h4 a bit to have better dps tho
What sets are you talking about
read the thread buddy
I don’t see the part where you said anything besides farm h4 for better dps sets
I’m not sure what dps sets you’re talking about

illl be transitioning to this rev for my rengo clear
maybe that's because i reacted to something
If anything he shouldn’t be farming h4 terror
sure
i am
, keeneye yeli is for the early build
if i have momentum ill use it
i have this, but no furyedge
i've fixed my team
Swiftraid for Yeli is better than fury edge imo, she needs to take more turns, so speed is very important on her
yeah ik speed is important even in PvP, but rn i want to like guarantee my crit rate abit, im missing 93% crit pretty often i say
70% crit is easy to get, fury edge would be somewhat redundant
If that's the case, it's a good news. All revelations i'm getting have swiftraid

Your reasoning is sound tbh
my terror team is undoable with yeli😂
You get some attack and speed for more turns
U can never get enough speed and attack
Crit however, yeah specially when u only need 70% on her
Makes sense
Fury edge on diting and Rosa
Coz Rosa doesn't need turns to do her most damage, her most damage from co-op attacks, make her hit hard and that's it.
Diting will always want more crit and crit damage + burst unit
Though swift on Rosa isn't that bad, it's kinda equal, coz she also only need 70% crit
By going swiftraid you need 20% crit rate from substat and 1 crit rate right piece to get to 100%
Can be done, but you need decent gear
U can also roll crit on ur shell if ur rolls didn't go crit at all
Though I hate taking crit over critdmg or speed
Not optimal tbh
Crit dmg is just better
Crit and critdmg have the exact same value on shell, it's just ppl go critdmg coz it's open ended stat
Wut
Check announcemnet
Idk, current servers are full or what 
to keep up with the marathon
I thought its a sprint
Nope its a marathon. not a sprint
The only game i Heard this funny sentence was lost ark
Where people were excusing game having baddroprates and cosuming 24 h a day of your time
Modules value cr at 1.5 times that of cdmg, and max cr on shells is 18% so its 27% crit value, since cdmg can get to 30% it slightly edges out cr in terms of value
Tbh at this point I think it's the exact same ppl that play and join different games and say the exact same shit to every game just to rage bait
Actually didn't know u can roll higher critdmg, it's just bad design at this point, no reason to favor 1 stats over the other in terms of numbers only
its understandable. They are marathoners after all
Yeah they could've just made cr 20%, it's not a huge diff tho but it is a bit odd
@main elm BRO EUPHINA in CZN ICANT
Its revelation shell tbh...getting crit rate on shell subs is more universal
is she good unit?
Who?
Who tf is euphina 
Air balloons
The Yeli bug was funny this morning. Best I can tell from a quick look through the files they accidentally linked the new Yeli enemy for the dream mode to the regular Yeli unit
This shit from CZN? Lol
yes
So it had nothing to do with regular yeli or?
the guy working on that saw 2 yelis and chose the wrong one is my guess lmao
Basically was just a coding fuckup that wasn't caught. They've got Yeli as an enemy in the dream maze mode coming next week that only has 1x followup and it was copied over from that to the regular Yeli because filenames are basically the same and someone fucked up
Ooo so when they updated it she was only doing 1 follow up
So if we didn’t play since yesterday she is the same
yeah if you didn't play in the time between the patch dropping and the flash update then it's the same now as it was yesterday
how did u guys beat anisync jacques?
i tried obol + fangus with lily and perma stun the side mobs but didn't do enough dmg before he oneshot me
also tried celince to prevent him from fua but she's off element and get's oblitirated without landing her thing
exactly xD
did they shadow nerf Yeli ? my battlewill Yeli is doing far more less consecutive attacks today....
They said she was bugged but they should have already fixed her
yes now 0.1% to fua

They're probably saving you tbh. You just missed like 3 months of anni which would've felt amazing, now they're kind of in an off season. E7 better until next March 
Where's the new unit and game mode btw I thought that was coming overnight
I, Ye Li, haven’t even had a chance to enjoy myself yet and it’s been secretly changed?
new unit in 14h 15m
this community is unbelievable
She was bugged and then fixed immediately, are you for real
Lowk don’t care about anni
Sw anni are mostly the same anyways
Huge time sink where you need to spend 1000s of stamina
It’s easy to spend stamina but i have better things to do
Sand all that for like two nat5s and a bunch of scrolls just to be disappointed when I get my 10th copy of some useless rgb5
Oh I love it. The energy is endless. I spent like 50k crystals
But yeah I’ve been through like 5 sw anniversaries
They aren’t that game changing
Maybe for a new player
But as an older player I like the game during off season
That’s a hot take I know
But I just like having time to play other games that I like
That’s why I stopped playing sw
Not that Etheria is any less of a time sink
Aaah
The only problem with all these solutions is that the gear reqs get nutty but at least people have a target
If you can't overcome it with money and units, you overcome it with grind and gear
Yeah. Just takes a crazy long time
Rengo/sharon/hoyan are just dumb
No matter how good your units are. You can get rng'd
And rengo is just overtuned all around
I entered Rengo once a couple weeks ago 
Same 🤣 i'm just trying to get a good revelation and after that some good 6set pieces
But the revelation seem pretty far away
So guys, is everything working as intended? Just checking
Yes yeli is fixed
Ok ok. Good. Remember it’s a marathon.
lettss goooo
cage rumble 3k score acquired
got those juicy lattice frags
I didn't think I was going to get it before it went away
yeah I've played a lot of cuphead
such a good game
same same, I did like 2-3 playthroughs with friends
We have to talk only inferno here
lol
this nahor wank
i am looking forward to it
how people react after using him after hyping him so much
reading his kit feels like a skip for me
dont like design too
What inferno? Is that the name of the marathon?
Yes
The infernal hell marathon
The trail of endless suffering
The trail to make us all delulu
After u beat every infernos u completed etheria congrats
If ur interested u can play pvp that's it

Only 6 more months before we can complete all of them
That's for you
I have lily

L. You're jot capable of understanding the grind
Imagine chasing after the best unit in the game.
Couldn't be me
How it feels loading into phantom theater and alt tabbing while a lily owner carries me to sss
Fr
you will eventually get her on your main acc if you play long enough
It's a marathon not a sprint
Just wait
I've only gem refreshed for around 15 days
All my gems went into her
Im 30 levels behind most players
I reccomend building yang liully is good because she turn meter pushes and yang
also pushes turn
its a good alternaitve
I also reccomend obol for mustache
Turst me i am rank 50 in rta
and 1st in guild war
and what if u dont?
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sry guys but the game looks fakin beautiful, totally jumping ship on that one
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this will take 3+ month i bet
good enough
but it looks good i like that art stylea and gameplay
enough to see clear path in this game
it's a different type of game
my biggest plus in that game is the atmosphere, it feels like a straight upgrade from darkest dungeon
no pvp it seems which might kill it for me if the replay value is not given
I'm also a "pvp gacha only" person but lately that path took me to flop after flop after flop
time to change pace
this game is going to be great
I have huge doubts with this one seeing how E7 is currently being handled. Also we don't talk about outerplane.
pve games always get boring fast for me. But its a rogue like game so maybe random dungeon is fun on the long run.
outerplane is not the same devs mann
Still by the same company
and there is no changing that
If the management is all the same then it's not really any different
That's like saying Legend of Zelda and Pokémon are made by the same comany
The studios are who makes the game
If it hadn't cards i would have been fine
I don't even know how they work, but it doesn't inspire me much
ngl cards is w/e for me
It made me think of FGO
hope the gameplay is solid
I might try it when it comes out and form my own opinion
I probably won't play i don't need another Star Rail
the showcase still doesn't give me any gameplay feel, have to try it myself and see
inb4 Talentless guild in CZN
u know it, it will happen
Not in a pve game
weak
apparently he doesn't know that
I'll say it's different for gachas
They'll have a channel though I'm sure
Not really
The studio that made Outerplane had nothing to do with Epic Seven it was just funded by SG
Pretty sure these devs were like fuck you playerbase when they designed this anisync floor
Just by looking at outerplane and CZN you can clearly see that they are completely different products.
Yup CZN is gonna be the better sci fi game lol
outerplane feels like a scrapped project, left for years and after a decade the company decided to dust it off and shove it, run it
and you can see the signature of the SuperCreative devs
yep
though idk what happened to Kayron, I think he is smilegate official "zoro" dude lost his direction and ended up in CZN
Tenebria and Karin are also in it iirc
At least I remember they confirmed Tene in the promo
I honestly just wouldn't touch anything that has SG
You're playing this
it's not smilegate?
Nope but it's heavily inspired by E7 and atm arguably worse to play
Yeah SG has decided to cash in on the gooner craze lately
Crazy to believe they once tried to censor Aria and did censor SSV for a Pegi 13 rating
I'm the target audience
I don't think it's worse to play
the mental break down art is wild, I already can see the future when the devs go bit too "wild" with the art, some of them already pretty SUS 
it'll turn to full degen game
A 62k post complaining about the state of the game says different
Oh 100%
I can't believe everyone is AYufine in this game
It's just inferno.
Lmao it's not just inferno
This thread is specifically for inferrno.
Even in here it's not just inferno discussed but okay since you wanna be proven wrong so badly
You're forgetting the fact that E7 was just as bad, probably a lot worse when it came out
Having to manual every run of wyvern
no gear load outs
needing fribbels to optimize gearing
shop refreshing for gear
idk man
there's probably more I can add but I can't remember it all
@hexed jay you're right multiple 1000+ posts active within 2 days is the absolute poster child of glowing game health. E7 has issues but not like this
That said I like both games but you're just being delusional
Except Etheria isn't competing with 2018 E7. It's competing with 2025 E7
A lot of those aren't even complaints, just plain out requests for stuff
Which is currently cannibalizing it's playerbase
Nah. Jack discovered time travel. Check your watch
True lol
if 2025 e7 would be good most of us wouldnt be here
E7 didn't come out with all it's current updates the day it came out
No gacha ever did
No gacha ever will
Right but this game can see the downfall of its predecessor and change it before release
Can't handle simple logic.
No you're just retarded
You just can't think logically
now you're turning to insults
I'm not going to waste time arguing with someone who can't even be objective
I got timed out 24hrs for that

A game a month into it's release is averaging less viewers than a 7 year old game which also has a lot of issues
That's not a good thing
Which they did. We have 3000 gear slots for free that E7 didn't have. You even had to pay for it and removing gear is free.
I'll take it idc
That’s cause you barely have enough to level the gear
this channel has degenerated into discussion about which new gacha will do better than e:r lmao
Idk im chilling boosting my horse girls while waiting for friday
God those czn trailers look insane. Story seem interesting too
Is it just pve, no pvp?
Thinking viewers equal to actual players
A lot of people have already left. More probably will. The game will get better eventually but anyone deluding themselves to think that things as they are now is comparable to current E7 even with it's issues is crazy. The game from the beta was in a much better place to be successful
If ER still going i could play both tbh
This has been proven wrong time and time again
It equates to how many are interested in the game
But it doesn't equates how many are actually playing
Just pve I think
Most games don't have a lot of viewers but they have a lot of people playing instead
It gives a reference in size compared to something similar
Tbf their videos on youtube really have low viewership
In this case e7
It's unexplainable
compared to what exactly
Like 3000 views, a new character's video. 3k views
I don't know what to compare it to. It's just low as fuck
It's just surprising
Yeli released and there was sub 500 viewers on twitch
Even in the worst gachas typically a new character release is fairly huge
If you don't think the viewership has any correlation how empty are your guilds
probably has to do with the fact that this game isn't even released in a lot of huge countries like China itself
Yeli PV had 350k views. Fuqiu PV has 3k
Because China wouldn't eat shit like people in this discord
You think they'd let them do what's happening here?
Why do you guys make this argument consistently, and when people debunk this argument, you reboot and go back to making the exact same argument
???
China has their own yt so we wouldnt even notice
Because it's the truth?
It really did not come out with everything the day it released...
Every update took time
took years
When there was zero competition
When e7 came out years ago, it was in competition with games that came out years ago. The game was able to survive solely because of that. The economy of the game might've been bad by today's standards but they clearly weren't so bad in comparison to other games at the time. The competition at the time was Fire Emblem Heroes, Dragalia Lost, Azur lane, a couple of Dragonball and final fantasy games. A lot of these games had bad economy at the time, and were exceptionally grindy. All of those games (that are still alive today) got better. Why? because their competition got better as well.
ER isn't releasing in a field like that
And all the other games back then released the same way
It’s only true if Etheria came out in 2018 with e7
Comparing a game that released last month to epic seven when it came out is delusional because it's not competing in the market of 2018 or 2020 epic seven. It's competing with 2025 epic seven and a load of other popular turn based gacha games. That's like taking the first iphone and expecting it to compete in today's market of smartphones....... it wouldn't work
Same way wuwa has genshin as an example of what not to do
Chill on him
Hes just here to bark and argue for fun
Its how he enjoys this game
Etheria as it is now cannot survive in this landscape if changes aren't seen fast
It's like asking a newborn human to instantly be an adult the moment it came out of it's mother.
Gacha gamers are not loyal
Epic seven TODAY has an infinitely better gearing experience and new player experience than ER. You're either lying or you don't play the game aka ignorant if you think otherwise. Most of the gold sink on e7 for current players is shop refresh and swapping gear (which is rumored to be removed soon.) The daily coin income on ER is like 800k coins if you use it all on inferno + have monthly supply card. That's barely enough to max out a single gear. Stop it already.
Yes it's better after 7 years
of development
No it’s not. Cause XD was alive when epic 7 came out. They have context. The baby doesn’t. It was just born
We're not asking for alot
Guess what? With Etherias current trajectory we'll be lucky if it gets 1
That's the reality of things
And we could have said the same thing when E7 got released
Like never forget Tribe Nine
lol
Nope not even remotely the same
There's literally more direct competitors to E7 SW and ER releasing this year
What was t9 revenue first month?
It's not even close to how things were back in 2018
90k
?
I don't even remember tbh
Tribe nine died before I even got to try it lol
Just remember tribe90k
Well... this is 7mils not really the same level of revenue
And they're gonna be the same. It's gonna have problems and will need time for updates and fixes and whatever
We will see next month how revenue is
Yeah stuff like SK:Rebirth and such
Actually idk the first month. I think that was the second
Let me find out
Idk its netmarble...
True lol
It's a lost cause man. We try to explain and the guy keep coming with the same argument
800k apparently
But still considering we had HSR crowd too 7m is a really low amount
It could have easily been 20m+
Marketing plus HSR creators
The first few days was rife with them complaining about pvp lol
Maybe try to look at literally every single gacha out there. They all started the same and got updates as time passed by. HSR recently just got story skip.
Who gives a fuck as long as the game is profitable it will livr
7 mil or 20
Doesnt matter to players
It would be nice if it's healthy and populated too tbh
If someone right now were to open the play/apple store and download both games, this argument of "well a fews years ago the game had bad eco-" doesn't work. They are experiencing the game today and THAT is their competition.
Nvm @inland warren
Yeah but how much is healthy and populated
Things getting blown way out of proportion here
I have no idea. I wouldn't be able to tell you
Having the same amount of players as e7 would be a success
Are they though there's been a severe drop in interest in the game in all forms of media
If a agame makes 5M ots already doing pretty good some games wont even go over 1M
That's usually indicative of a larger issue
Almost every gacha experiences that a month after launch
First month though it's not the same as averaging it every month
Interest drops revenue drops
Theres some exceptions yes
But this is afterall despite its huge marketing budget a game that will long term only cater to a niche audience
Wut
By the nature of how it is
What did you mean by what you said?
And dont get me wrong im not defending any of the fuck ups xd did in this game
I meant the last few PvP gacha games I went through were all flops after flop, and I'm getting tired of it
But i still feel it getting blown out of proportion
First month is supposed to be the best month
Yet it's the month it's struggling the most
You're right this is totally the hallmark of a healthy playerbase
Google Trends shows a decrease of interest in the game by 83%
That is NOT good...
Mhm
Atleast show yeli xD
well honeymoon phase is over and people are disgruntled with the game
To be fair… most players think one of the names is giving them the middle finger

These are in the same day period
Yeah i was just joking
But if you wanna see Yeli get rolled that bad hold up lol
They have more likes than we have viewers
Yeli is 350k
The game art being DOG doesn't really help anyone seeing the game as "oh this game looks good" to try it
kill me
But tbf most player watched the trailer in the meetup stream or hyperlink stream so i didnt watch them aswell
train should be fine now that we have gear ?
and i didnt dislike kloss event previously

chakuring is back
Also the cards shit 
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
You're telling me we can't compete with something that's doing just as bad, if not worse? 😂
kloss is ok i just dont like train
my favorite is just cubic game
i like xiada song event for the free lattice
why is this my s rank?
Cuz people don't google Epic Seven that already play it genius
New gacha games in 2025 characters
Exact same thing with this game dumbass
Stove?
No you Google Etheria
No you Google “Exactly! Every voice matters in Etheria!”
What game is this
I know the 3rd one from but the 1st 2 no clue
They all czn
really
Ya
But does the horse girl game clear Etheria?
that is the biggest question
guess they have many different artists
omg best game
coz art is very different from other
💦💦💦
Im as hyped about czn like no other game in many years ngl
sitting in ER discord and all going "goosling" moment on another game
💀

Chaos zero nightmare
New game thsts like e7 but no pvp announced yet
Remember when people said the same thing about this game
Idk
They from the same game
Then launch happened
I usually dont rly give a fuck about those things if i like a game i like a game idgaf what other ppl think
that's how it should be
how dare you not let other ppl influence on what you like or don't

It will be better
Just look at this
aight stop gooning, stop, GOONING
the desperate struggling of the defeated never ceases to amuse me
Devs actually care
LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE
THE PERSONALITY
Here I think you might need these
Wear knee pads that actually stay in place while walking and kneeling. One of the biggest complaints people have about protective knee pads is how easily they slip. Whether you're on your knees or your feet, you won't feel frustrated by needing to constantly adjust your knee pads. The slip-buckle...
y does gameplay look like morimens
2 very big reasons to spend $6900 for her
I'll DM you my address you can send them to me I don't mind free gifts
You need $69420
Hang on I got you
DAM THIS LILY HATER
slander
Or this
This thread is cooked
tbh lily prob the best 2d art in the whole fucking ER, at least it's the only one that got AI generated nicely
It aint slander if it's pure facts
I'd much rather reroll for this
we lost Blaze
Than this
but they ain't in this game
And this is just me being honest
💦
EXACTLY
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, and Acceptance. I see some of ER players are already at stage 5, but a few still remain in stage 1.
not a boob hater since I commissioned ML Luna for my community banner, but this LOOKS LIKE SHIT
At least she has the right amount of fingers
Great potential
It's mostly the angle lol
Wym fuqiu has 5 fingers
True
She has 4 and a thumb bruh
Even better
You're not counting the fan are you?
4 finger and 1 thumb makes 5 fingers
Carry on gooning
What’s wrong with that
Idk they keep sharing it
Idk it looks fine to me
Might be
The thumb is on the fan, plus 4 fingers lol
She definitely doesn't look AI drawn to me

