inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[ripe kraken]

It means ur whole week gems will go waste every month now to double drops

[main elm]

Jenazad always sucked as a CC since E7, no one gives a shit about Jenazad dude

[undone vortex]

drag him

[gilded mason]

Oof

[pure junco]

Yay

[undone vortex]

they should've invited me smh

but like he literally didn't talk, the most memorable part was his camera freezing

[mental mural]

Jack literally asked which changes they would prefer and to chose one
Meaning he hasn't done shit yet

Embarrassing

[undone vortex]

seanb stays winning

[gilded mason]

Seanw

[pure junco]

Him and his 90s RPG Boss monster name

[undone vortex]

volkinwas like I LOVE RTA AND I LOVE HOSTING TOURS

IM F2P

[gilded mason]

[undone vortex]

seanb had good suggestions that like were mostly ignored by the other 4

😭

[pure junco]

Tag em and say that!

[undone vortex]

no u

I scared

[ripe kraken]

Also they said new sr characters will slowly come

[sour lotus]

Everything Seanb said was important and everyone ignores it

garbage video

[main elm]

Tbh, these CC doesn't know if they speak out what the community want their channel gets x3 more popular.

But fuck us if we follow a small time CC who is happy with small changes a company throw at them as sponsorship

[ripe kraken]

So sr will happen but we don't know when

[undone vortex]

we got daddy gray comong

aka lightning

[ripe kraken]

The fact that jenazad even being a e7 cc and a tournament hoster contributed to no change to game

[pure junco]

C already gave us a forecast because of the constant tagging

[mental mural]

Average lily enjoyer

[ripe kraken]

Did u get lily

[undone vortex]

if I don't get Lily im gonna sue

[mental mural]

Bro acted like he was gonna do something at the start then did nothing

[mental mural]

Tomorrow I summon

[main elm]

ER did 1 thing right for themselves, they paid the CCs very well that all they do is gloat their game

[gilded mason]

People were saying it was gray og design but they changed it

[undone vortex]

daddy gray

[ripe kraken]

Paid actor that's what they say in this economy

[gilded mason]

So sadly he may not exist

[mental mural]

Jack literally said the gold shells being in inferno is on purpose

Fucking ridiculous

[graceful juniper]

Pull currency is not an issue...wait is this a bot?

[ripe kraken]

Also then saying we don't fix coins cause no one would play events is nuts

[undone vortex]

Jack also said scarcity is necessary so people will keep playing and won't have a stash of coins

[ripe kraken]

Who doesn't want reward

[mental mural]

Im convinced they bought volkin

[undone vortex]

as if people aren't gonna constantly farm for better eqs

lol

[ripe kraken]

It's in general chat u can search for it

[sour lotus]

Them unironically admitting their event rewards are so trash you're supposed to play them for BASIC CURRENCY is insane

[mental mural]

It is an issue

[main elm]

Too lazy to start watching the cringe yappers meetings but what's the highlight of their talk ?

[sour lotus]

literally nothing

[undone vortex]

Animus reser

[sour lotus]

the Highlight is nothing will change, Road to EoS

[graceful juniper]

Wdym? As a guy that dont refill 1k gem a day,its i still got some currency left for pulling new unit....and when 1 unit/3 week hit then its not even issue anymore

[mental mural]

Holy shit
Actually nothing but that they plan on having a pvp equipment save option
"We're working on it, be patient "

[ripe kraken]

Tldr they said coins won't be fixed cause no one would play events shells a new shell thing is released which gives 20 k training data and the new event is promised with huge rewards that we don't even know

And blessings galore is a monthly thing now

[green spear]

2x event next weekend and some change to shell currency (new epic pets that give 2x or 3x the data) and QOL for gear presets for pve and pvp (kinda confusing on if we can move the gear around tho imo)

[sour lotus]

Again they're doing this shit WHY is it 20k?
It should be 200k with the Upgrade costs

[mental mural]

Yeah when I get 1 ssr every 70 pulls in standard and it's a dupe or not lily it's not enough

[main elm]

Dumb fucks don't know what's the real purpose games do x2 event, it's not for the damn coins it's for the damn x2 gear drops

[green spear]

otherwise seems they know most of the issues but don't want to or haven't decided how to fix

[ripe kraken]

Jack said 20 k was enough to him in his testing

[sour lotus]

I'm not farming shit for 20k when 1 Level is 100k+ and 1 stat reroll is 30k

fuck these clowns

[undone vortex]

exactly your voice matters to etheria

[green spear]

No rumors please.

[graceful juniper]

You have enough currency to pull 1 pity/month if banner will goes as they say,1 banner/3 week....doesnt have lily is different issue

[sour lotus]

I am real no rumors please

Your voice matters to Etheria

[main elm]

Animus reset probably the dumbest shit ever, instead of fixing their economy they tape it with the worst commercial adhesive, how would they reset my 5mil currency lost into rerolling shells ?

[sour lotus]

ARE YOU READY?!

[green spear]

AYE AYE CAPTAIN

[proud iron]

he said he doesnt want people to be overflowing with silver because once all the events hit and everyone can do most of the content youll just have a lot of silver laying around being useless

[ripe kraken]

They didn't mention anything about removing blue passives so reroll is still same

[scarlet quartz]

gear rolling is a myth

[ripe kraken]

Who is overflowing then with their test accounts?

[sour lotus]

Have fun wasting 1 million training data on rolling the same blue stat 5 times

[mental mural]

Jack says a lot of things that doesnt make sense
I give up on him

[ripe kraken]

They can just edit their coin amount in test accounts

[green spear]

[ripe kraken]

If they are taking test server account as standard where u can edit what u want

[pure junco]

Makes you think if they actually took the time to test anything

[ripe kraken]

Ye that's what will happen

[proud iron]

feels like they just leveled a few sets of gear, saw they still had tons of silver left and went ok theres an excess no need to buff silver lol

[mental mural]

Never forget
There's around 50 units in this game

[main elm]

He doesn't want to say we want players to be very dry on silver because we included silver in every fucking p2w pack to give it some what fake value instead actually giving us a better value than few silvers slapped in it

[sour lotus]

It's funnier to me that they call it silver

they're not even using their own terminolgy

[scarlet quartz]

i think jena called it silver and he just ran with it

[ripe kraken]

Watch the patch notes be just training data 20 k thing added

[pure junco]

Does that mean they play their game?

[sour lotus]

why even call it "Etheria Coin" if not even the devs say it

[undone vortex]

ETHERIA COIN

[pure junco]

Up to you to figure that out Hyperlinker

[ripe kraken]

Ye jena did that

He was the first guy to mention

[undone vortex]

still stuck on inferno terrormaton?

[ripe kraken]

The term

[mental mural]

@shadow hornet there's nothing wrong with having 6billion coins in a gacha game

[ripe kraken]

He said it's wrong

[pure junco]

Don't worry we have guides by our goat @quaint marsh

[ripe kraken]

So it's wrong to him

[mental mural]

We will reeducate him

[ripe kraken]

Deal with it

[quaint marsh]

[graceful juniper]

Yea but again its not an issue...the problem here is some people doesnt have important unit like ssania+lily thats why they feel its not enough.

Because i have both,now i dont even feel pressured to pull for pve....i can pull unit that i like

[main elm]

I called the game pump and dumb coz how the events are low quality and randomized infused with p2w packs, before but ppl still drunk on the honeymoon juices they didn't believe me

[ripe kraken]

In new event two bosses are weak to shadow sania btw

[scarlet quartz]

I get not wanting coins to become so easy to get that they become meaningless we are just so, so far away from that that it seems kinda silly

[ripe kraken]

They will play for 6 months it seems

[graceful juniper]

Yea but the main pve farming are cakewalk with both these unit...i can just plan slowly for future event

The problem is permanent farming unit requirement

[mental mural]

It is an issue
You need to be able to get units that you want
You cant do that

[ripe kraken]

In 4 months when roster increases mayve

But even after doing all this pve in pvp u just go rev spam

[mental mural]

Its an issue that will continuously get worse

[graceful juniper]

Yea the problem is not the pull...its the way you have to have specific unit.

Like if they give free lily+ssania then it wont be issue no more

[ripe kraken]

Pvp rev issue is just get good according to marcus

[pure junco]

Same reason why they don't want 2x on modules, it's money and they don't want us being too strong, then you'll have the white knights crying about difficulty.

[undone vortex]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers! Created by Artiar

[graceful juniper]

I wont talk pvp since im just platinum pleb....rev strat is not found down here

[undone vortex]

we have to work together as a community fto find counters, and use the right 1 matrix and shell

[main elm]

Who, the CCs ?
Sponsoring small timers makes them accept a contract with a nice sum to play the game and include it weekly in the YT channel for a year or 6 months depends on the contract

[mental mural]

The problem is the pull
You need to be able to get something reliable when you summon
If you cant do then something is wrong
I haven't gem refreshed in over 2 weeks because I dont have a lot of pve unit
Never got one of them besides shadow sania

[undone vortex]

according to c

[pure junco]

The power of friendship and Love

[mental mural]

Useless guide

[main elm]

So technically they are forced to play and make videos for it

[ripe kraken]

The events and union only gives 6 pull per week

Pack gives 10 so 16

[pure junco]

Let's unite friends! Together our experiences will grow into something powerful!

[main elm]

Big CC doesn't accept such contracts, if the game sucks they just say fuck it

[mental mural]

Disgusting
Getting one useless dupe every 70 pull is not a positive

[undone vortex]

u know what else is disgusting

[pure junco]

Friend Blaze, it's okay! You're doing fine!

[undone vortex]

let's all work together to solve etheria 's problems

[graceful juniper]

Literally with obol+fangus+ssania you can do niconana and shadowflame hoyan

And if you pull holden when his banner up you can do terrormaton too

[undone vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/qu4rtz-love-live-nijigasaki-quartz-high-school-idol-club-gif-16796661027440822068

[mental mural]

Somebody get this fucking bum out of this chat

Telling me how to use my units

Gtfo

[undone vortex]

[graceful juniper]

Lol why you here complaining about pulling here

[undone vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/fe-gif-21577303

[mental mural]

Cuz I can

[pure junco]

You're right! Friend Letsgo, we shall all be holding!

[graceful juniper]

Game has issue but not pulling

[mental mural]

This must be you

[graceful juniper]

I mean go on you can ask the dev to give the banner unit for free every time new banner come....im not losing anything anyway if they do

[main elm]

So technically the whole yap session they didn't address the 2 main issues the game has aka time consumption and economy?

[undone vortex]

Jack doesn't rlly see many issues with the economy that's the thing

[mental mural]

"We're working on it, be patient "

[scarlet quartz]

U do not have to be able to target any unit in the game

[pure junco]

It was barely mentioned in fact

[graceful juniper]

Someone projecting here...just because i disagree doesnt i suck their d....meanwhile here you go blind mad when you dont have specific unit

[scarlet quartz]

just any one unit shouldnt be required

[pure junco]

Unfortunately

[undone vortex]

he believes that ppl will hoard coins and not do events and this not play the game if coin counts increases

[main elm]

Aight this game official became the bridge to the next game I'll be playing

[undone vortex]

thus*

[graceful juniper]

Only this addressed

[main elm]

Coz devs dumb, and their CCs aswell except Seanb

[undone vortex]

he already seemed reluctant AF adding in pity shells

[analog basin]

7$

[outer falcon]

Awesome lmfao I love him

[undone vortex]

seanb had brought up community issues but all of it got ignored

lol

except the load out thing

[distant wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/humpback-whale-whale-onthe12thfloor-stan-twitter-gif-3446111347746334272

[pure junco]

The shell pity system is kinda dumb.

[graceful juniper]

What the pity btw? Is it the matrix pity/reconfigure pity/inferno pity?

[small knot]

They do realize that their defense will still be naked when they farm right

[undone vortex]

shell currency

[pure junco]

Instead of just increasing rates they make a pity system hahaha

[mental mural]

There's over 50 units in the game
You should be able to summon for a specific units that you want and max them out
But here the currency is never
One ssr is 70 pulls
Then another is 70 pulls
After the 3rd one youre already losing
So literally you just get 4 units and never summon again
That isn't good

[ripe kraken]

The coin drop rate never was mentioned they said they will increase the amount of coins in events

[warped kestrel]

This is my Etheria Coin equivalent in SW. This is more currency than I could ever use no matter how many pieces of gear I roll, and my life only got easier and better the moment I could finally stop thinking about this currency and micromanaging it

[rustic lynx]

Volkin is there just to look pretty while jena is just sorting his technical issues

[undone vortex]

volkin just talked about himself and his love for rta as a f2p

😔

[pure junco]

Watch that disappear

[undone vortex]

but he got the check so

[undone vortex]

props to em

[main elm]

SSania isn't issue, I have every inferno is on farm and never used her, she just fix the gearing issue u had in the 1st week, after u gear up u don't need to cheese with dots coz ur units and DPS kill just as quick

[outer falcon]

It pretty much can't

[mental mural]

Correction
Don't you mean his love for lily?

[distant wedge]

$7 = p2w

[ripe kraken]

Btw who from community considers jenazad as main cc of etheria

[analog basin]

true

[ripe kraken]

Just cause he hosted previously he got the place I think

[undone vortex]

jackzenlesszerozone

[main elm]

Main CC is Seanb imo

[graceful juniper]

Well its from prywden...i guess they miss the note

[mental mural]

Still don't know who he is

[scarlet quartz]

I disagree, that's just a bad model for them.
I agree there should be banners run for the standard cast of units, but not a permanent target selection banner

[warped kestrel]

It can only keep going up from here, since my standards are naturally high enough that if something doesn't roll max speed rolls 3 times in a row, I sell, and if you sell anything at +6 or less, it sells for more than you spent +6ing it

[ripe kraken]

Prydwen is also known for some heavy misinformation and our dated don't follow it blindly

Prydwen hard glazes a lot

[warped kestrel]

Modules should sell for the same or more than you spent +6ing them, at +6

It shouldn't go into the negatives until above +6

[mental mural]

Limited banners shouldn't have just one ssr
The inability to build a team that you want is too strong

[graceful juniper]

Yea i only go there to checking the stats and skill...no guide for anything tbh

[pure junco]

Time to religiously level every module you can and sell them

[tacit ingot]

does he even play the game anymore?

[pure junco]

Only keep the ones you need

[main elm]

Anyone can tell me how can I enjoy my 2 weeks vacation on an Island in 3 days if the game wants me to play for at least 12hrs for the upcoming event ?

[scarlet quartz]

You can built a pretty reasonable roster of teams just from the units u get through all the pulls they throw at us, the issue lies at requiring rather specific setups for content

[half lodge]

I have got a friends wedding this weekend 😄 i guess i lose

[tacit ingot]

go to programs and features, find etheria restart, click u-

[sour lotus]

uninstall

[undone vortex]

I'll do it for u

[outer falcon]

Do I tap abandon fellas

[main elm]

[pure junco]

Learn how to draw, take more naps, tune our social media, enjoying the gym, learn a recipe or something

Putting down your phone.... Etc

[warped kestrel]

Thing is, you can't know which one is trash until it's at least +6, unless it has all terrible substats to begin with... which is actually uncommon. Most modules will come with at least 1, or some combination of crit rate/crit dmg/spd/atk%, making them all worth checking out to at least +6

[main elm]

Why the fuck would I want to learn how to draw specially when AI taking over!?

[pure junco]

True

[pure junco]

Then stare at dry wall. And start arguments with it, hobbies be damned

[graceful juniper]

Yea the 2/3 sub is bad...and its not helping i lock every sub that has spd even if its only has 2 sub

[outer falcon]

2 sub speed is instant trash for me sadly

Checking is too expensive

[main elm]

[mental mural]

Reasonable is an assumption
Following that you have to assume that the set up your got can work in designated contents
Set ups isn't even the first problem

[mental mural]

So youre good with your fingers

[main elm]

How is that related

[graceful juniper]

They should just switch lian with lily as free unit instead because how useless she was later on hell and inferno content lol

[main elm]

I'm good at cooking at least

A better hobby than useless drawing

[undone vortex]

my hobby is ruining yer life

[pure junco]

She's useful at hollow gp

[scarlet quartz]

That again is just a workaround for pve being too difficult then

and still leaves lian useless

[pure junco]

You ZZYs always got something

[undone vortex]

I'm just innocent

uwu

[graceful juniper]

Yea....the problem is they still going strong with current pve situation,at this point might aswell switch up girl to lily

[undone vortex]

um this is discrimination

[ripe kraken]

Only innocent guy is jack

He said 20 k training data was enough for him in testing

[undone vortex]

jackzenlesszerozone is not innocent

[undone vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/lumpyspaceprincess-cutyou-lsp-adventuretime-gif-4614661

[undone vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-fugly-fugly-slut-burnbook-gif-14001350

[main elm]

If game time consumption wasn't addressed in the "big yapper meeting" then it means it's 1 of the 2 things:

Ppl still think they are in honeymoon and don't mind playing 8hrs+ a day where soon they'll realize game isn't worth spending that much time for, soon they'll burnout and say fuck it.

OR

The voices that reached the CCs and devs are mostly consists of group of bums that all they want are more rewards and don't care about wasting their whole day playing gachas, well coz they are bums that doesn't work so who cares about wasting their time.

[mental mural]

Tomorrow i can get shafted and quit this game

[half lodge]

I am greatly disapointed about the 2x event now the most optimal solution instead of making drops better and no event is to freeze every stamina booster and no life 1 day

Definetly healthy!!! And people be like yay 2x event

Yay i also want Play mobile game 24h on day

[mental mural]

Sean plays the game as a job
Volkin slaves on 2 accounts

[main elm]

Bums doesn't pay the company, the p2ws are the working class, hearing bums over p2ws is oof moment for thr company

[pure junco]

They also addressed, they "Heard" us loud and clear. Hehe

[main elm]

Probably heard the bums, they have all day so all discord yapping and talking are 90% from them

[pure junco]

Would the entire family quit too?

That's almost everyone who started on your server right?

[ripe kraken]

Also watch all the defenders be rejoiced

With this crumbs

And come here and say devs listended

In a hour

[pure junco]

2x is back! Devs Listened! You're just jealous because you're not their target audience Natsu!

[ripe kraken]

So guys technically double drop every month takes 3 k crystals away from us every month so we are -10 apex proto in a nutshell

[mental mural]

I don't know

[graceful juniper]

So now they remove yellow shell for more shell currency.....
So they are saying even if you do inferno shell it doesnt mean a mythic shell will be drop

Well shit if they fked the pity by not making you guarantee 3 matrix you want its going to be crazy

[ripe kraken]

I liked ur old pfp

New pfp seems ur faking ur feelings

[main elm]

Fix the economy by making us play x2 more

[ripe kraken]

If they extend 2 x to a week - 7 k crystals

[main elm]

Well technically I'm spending 1k xtal everyday since release

[ripe kraken]

I think 7 k crystals is what a f2p gets per 3 weeks ?

A f2p is getting shadownerfed if hydra crystal revenue won't increase

[pure junco]

You gotta embrace Okita as best girl! Even for a Saber class servant

[main elm]

I stopped resetting PvP tickets, I just have more currencies than I need, also I don't not need to reset to stay in top 200

Gotta find payed piloters at this point

10$ a week any takers?

[ripe kraken]

What u want to do

[main elm]

20$ probably more appropriate

[undone vortex]

change his acc password

[ripe kraken]

I can't do pvp since I have no to less knowledge

[main elm]

What I do for daily shit

[graceful juniper]

Just play on lower plat....all you need is speed+cc and aoe wipe dps

[main elm]

Spending 1000 stamina and other shit

[ripe kraken]

I can do pve stuff for ya for free

[main elm]

My top 100 PvP last month was basically pressing auto

I'm still pressing auto

[ripe kraken]

What to use on pvp

If u explain to me in dms I will do for free

[main elm]

[ripe kraken]

I don't take money from friends

[main elm]

[ripe kraken]

I dmed ya

[small knot]

Maybe the real Etheria restart were the friends we made along the way

[ripe kraken]

Yeah

We all gathering together here

Must be destiny

[pure junco]

Is this the fairy tail guild way?

[ripe kraken]

Who knows

Only jack knows

[rustic lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sfpzzAfqQg

[ripe kraken]

Cause he is innocent

[rustic lynx]

They did discuss about Inferno difficulty but it was cut from the final video

[ripe kraken]

Oh

Nice editing

Must be nico inferno

If it was cut

[pure junco]

Guild Master of the ZZZ group

Starring Wuzzy

[undone vortex]

now why am i in it

[ripe kraken]

U know the vice pres is chris

[pure junco]

Of the ZZYs

[ripe kraken]

For that union

[undone vortex]

i was the first

[ripe kraken]

Wuzzy gets clapped by buzzy

Buzzy is evolved version

[undone vortex]

im the clapper

😤

[pure junco]

The Wu clan is strong

[ripe kraken]

Bu is trained under majin buu

We going back to dragon ball with this

[pure junco]

Best boy C the erebonian revolutionary

[undone vortex]

they tryna be the imperial liberation front so bad

[mental mural]

Almost ready for reset

[gilded mason]

[pure junco]

We're gonna be Etheria Reset in here

[gilded mason]

https://youtu.be/m_oiKyRdNZ4?si=-EGNFfQtcnjPsQ3H

Seanb tells all in exclusive bts

[tulip tusk]

So basically, behind the scenes they told us to go fuck ourselves on the bigger issues, but they don't have the fucking balls to post it.

[ripe kraken]

That's why they edited it

[scarlet quartz]

that video is literally crazy

[ripe kraken]

And video was late

[scarlet quartz]

the devs' takes are literally fucking cooked

[gilded mason]

[ripe kraken]

Get good bro

Devs

[scarlet quartz]

what is up with devs having some weird kind of ideology that is doing nothing but bleeding their income and playerbase

for no reason but ego

[gilded mason]

I guess their audience is

Niche

[scarlet quartz]

ig we hate money nowadays

[gilded mason]

Their target audience isnt casuals

Surprisingly

[tulip tusk]

I'm done after this, fuck these devs

[gilded mason]

They dont seem to be prioritizing whats popular w players

[strong ferry]

devs themselves dont decide on jack shit brother. its all management. its a business decision to have dumb things like hard farming stages or low resources.

[gilded mason]

Oh well ill keep.playing f2p till another game comes out

[scarlet quartz]

business decision would be to prioritize money no?

[turbid ridge]

no ....

managment want hoyo style easy money

[strong ferry]

yes ....

[ripe kraken]

These devs must be all ex league players

They left league to make pain for us

[turbid ridge]

this feels more like hardcore gamer devs

[ripe kraken]

What about new azure lane game

[scarlet quartz]

azur lame

[gilded mason]

Azur lane sequel?

Azur road

[tardy vine]

do you still build rilmocha for dokidoki even if you have massiah built?

[gilded mason]

Then azur highway

[gilded mason]

Whats the new azur lane game

[turbid ridge]

Well now you guys know they aint changing the vision they have.

guess we have alot of ppl here leaving today

[scarlet quartz]

having a boner for pve difficulty for shit u farm endlessly is so weird

I'll give it to them that beating an inferno stage did feel good for the first time

but that's so meaningless looking at the whole lifespan of the game

[gilded mason]

It feels good to manual it

And win

Then you realize

You need to auto farm it

[scarlet quartz]

maybe that realization will hit them

nah actually

[gilded mason]

So dont even manual

[warped kestrel]

It didn't feel good to manual it and win for me, because I know that it's something I have to be able to do in auto or I won't get anywhere

[gilded mason]

Just auto everything

[scarlet quartz]

watching the seanb video is kinda soul crushing seeing how fucked up their ideals actually are

[gilded mason]

With good product

Profit comes naturally

[split halo]

Was there a hyper talk today

[tulip tusk]

There was a "Fuck you, eat shit and like it" today

[split halo]

What does that mean

[gilded mason]

https://youtu.be/YuiC90QQzfU?si=zYSeDI6kUeAFKfVa

[turbid ridge]

it means they have a vision and dont care about your complains.

for the most part

[gilded mason]

Yeah they have a specific thing they wanna do

Wow i guess they really did follow their principles

[split halo]

Which is? Be stupid?

[gilded mason]

Kudos

[turbid ridge]

you either like the game how it is (which will stay like this) or you move on

[split halo]

What’s there vision

[turbid ridge]

hard content

[tulip tusk]

Shit economy

[turbid ridge]

economy will fix itself over time

[gilded mason]

Damn

[split halo]

So that’s. Not gonna get fixed

[gilded mason]

XD staying true

[split halo]

XD moment

[warped kestrel]

Gear presets will eventually come for not just arena, but all content including all dungeons, and gold shells will be replaced for special shells that are worth more currency than mythic ones in inferno shell stages

[tulip tusk]

No, they doubled down on their fuckin stupid bullshit

[ripe kraken]

Also jenazad left in between

The talk

Due to something busy coming up

[warped kestrel]

Oh also, 2x event coming in 5 days, so get your stabilizers ready

[rustic lynx]

Jack is part of the management team. Do you think the people higher than him cares if the game is hard or easy? They only care if the game makes a profit....

[split halo]

In other words if you ain’t broke you will be

[gilded mason]

Based on what he said, its not all gold shells

[warped kestrel]

They're not addressing etheria coin economy unfortunately

[gilded mason]

Its gonna be like some random drop

[warped kestrel]

So you will still be broke in that aspect

[ripe kraken]

U think they gonna make profit by just saying get good

We will know by the revenue of this month

I hope whales keep it 500 k

[turbid ridge]

shop would look diffrent if they wanted to max profit

[rustic lynx]

Never said the game revenue will go one way or the other...

[turbid ridge]

and unlimited stamina would be a thing

[gilded mason]

Jack.is like the project manager of etheria

[rustic lynx]

But I don't expect them to make more than last month

[gilded mason]

Hes in charge of the game

[split halo]

Whales just spent regardless like the bots in arenas

[gilded mason]

Well if the game is targeted at hardcore difficulty loving players, then its their decision

People who dont have fun will leave eventually

[split halo]

A lot have left

I wanna leave tbh

Game isn’t fun due to stall progress

But the chat is amazing

[strong ferry]

idk how u read or interpreted what i was saying brother. lemme rephrase for you to comprehend:
the devs aka the guys typing out the code & adding content to the game are NOT the guys deciding on business related things.
the management IS deciding on business related things thus anything related to their bottom line aka what they earn with the game IS NOT a dev problem but a management one. capiche?

[rustic lynx]

Anyway, grats to seanb for speaking out. Volkin's video is very measured and careful, worried of offending the developers

[warped kestrel]

Hm, that's not how I interpreted it, but he also said that mythic shells were like 10 or 20k training data, which is far from true

So who knows

[gilded mason]

We'll have to wait and see what they do

[rustic lynx]

Nah. You don't understand what I am saying but I don't care enough to explain. Whatever...

[half lodge]

Telling about gacha they have a vision is a bit hmm overextending the topic

[pure junco]

I think that's why people haven't left discord because chat is hilarious with their arguments on what's fair and defending the company deal. There's around a hundred lurkers. My guild is full of lovely people so leaving now would suck even if I felt like it. Here's a key: Don't take this game too seriously or you'll lose yourself

Unless you wanna be the very best that ever was

Which I doubt more than half of you wanna be top ten

[rustic lynx]

Go play pokemon then...

[pure junco]

Oooooh! You know what? I was thinking of playing Pokemon Emerald the other day

I love that game

[steep falcon]

Ppl need to either quit or stop complaining since they already said this is what they want for the game

I happy that they communicated and don’t rlly care about the result

[turbid ridge]

thats the issue they cant quit for some reason XD

[steep falcon]

They need to figure out their lives

[rustic lynx]

Wow, so now you can't criticize the game....

[turbid ridge]

Just go play smt else and come back 6-12 month and see how the game is than

[steep falcon]

Not after the game addresses it and says they don’t want it the way u criticize no one wants to see constant negativity

[rustic lynx]

In 6-12 months, you won't even have any hope to catch up... 🤣

[turbid ridge]

if its still alive

[pure junco]

It will definitely be different in a year

[steep falcon]

Ur critiques are obviously not what the game wants

[turbid ridge]

these games get easier with time. Like e7 they come up with events that streamline you fast to catch up

[steep falcon]

Economy grows over time like if u want everything to be given to u go play Minecraft creative mode

[pure junco]

Not that I'm starting a fight but what would be the "right" criticism? Would that be not what's on that person's mind?

[steep falcon]

I’m saying after they address something to keep bringing it up when they obviously have goals and are monitoring it in their own capacity— sure u can complain before the feedback but now it’s time to either keep playing or quit

[pure junco]

That's valid

[tulip tusk]

Volkin has shown his shill side during this process. Fake acting like he's looking out for the players but he's full of shit imo

[steep falcon]

Most of the content creators in that video rlly let me down

[inland warren]

Well no nerfs i guess...

[turbid ridge]

Volkin likes the damn game

[tulip tusk]

He likes the paycheck

[pure junco]

Does he?

[open fable]

BRUH

[pure junco]

Doesn't seem that way

[open fable]

I just watch Seanb vid

[gilded mason]

Rom hacks are more fun

[open fable]

This game is a PVE game now

its no longer a pvp game

then again it never was

[pure junco]

Totally. There's that Mariomon I wanna try

[open fable]

new game mode will have a super hard mode where if you fail you lose your rewards or something

trully pve game

[pure junco]

It has a hard mode then is there a normal mode where this doesn't happen? XD

[open fable]

yeah

something like that

[main elm]

Matched with best dude

[turbid ridge]

we call it hoyo mode for special need kids

[pure junco]

Then just play normal mode

[open fable]

it seems the philosophy is high risk high rewards

normal mode is less rewards etc

so what i get from this is etheria is becoming a pve game now

[pure junco]

High risk management is what they're trying for that game mode. It probably won't cater to everyone unfortunately

[distant wedge]

who wanna play pvp 24/7?

[steep falcon]

Fortunately it caters to me 🙂

[pure junco]

Well yeah, because you can help with inferno, that's why

[open fable]

also no fix for inferno drops

but they will replace some yellow shells for more training data

something anout after a year you wouldt care about training data

[main elm]

Tbh I know Volkin did yap alot of meh stuff in that meeting but he came up with the best suggestion among the other CCs.

The ability to have a week to activate the event instead of slap it on the weekends

[pure junco]

There's a pity system coming for it, which makes no sense but hey.. lmao

[inland warren]

Tbh, seeing seanb saying that the difficulty of bosses is by design is soulcrushing

[pure junco]

Sean earned his money

[main elm]

He is just saying what the dev said

[inland warren]

Yeah, that's why it's soulcrushing

[open fable]

@main elm coins uh they want you to treasure it like gollum from lord of the rings

so that feedback post kewk

[inland warren]

Because if I were f2p i would subject myself to the grind without progressing for weeks/month hoping that one day i would be able to play pvp

[main elm]

I get it, they have a point, but not in farming bosses, that's stupid and retarded thing to do

[inland warren]

In the meantime, i get stomped by whales who have all characters fully geared

[open fable]

the which one?

[inland warren]

And I would be basically months behind

[main elm]

Yeah also another retarded shit the devs had

[open fable]

they want the game to be like dark souls but they forgot we need to auto it as well

[tulip tusk]

imo the devs tricked them into getting on video for their own PR, than cut out what they agreed upon talking about. Probably why seanb made his video

[open fable]

i also have no gears for this stupid cage rumble

too many speed eff chasing

[pure junco]

Did you just compare this to Dark Souls??? Lmao

[main elm]

"Coins are a treasure that's why we want you to have a reason to play our events and feel their rewards are rewarding".

Please anyone can tell Jack NOT A SINGLE SOUL can actually buy the coins from shop ? Coz all our event currencies are barely enough to buy the top 2 choices ?

[pure junco]

You made me chuckle hard man, congratulations

[open fable]

i mean their concept no? if they dint nerf the bosses its kinda frustrating and they want you to feel the satisfaction of killing the boss

imagine if they dint nerf Astratae or all that shit

but they forgot this a gacha game

[pure junco]

Would all Inferno be compared to the Nameless King too? 🤣

[hallow nymph]

I was wondering actually, why the problem with the shortage of lattices wasn’t mentioned as an issue in the beta. Did they just had 100 lattices in their Inventory or smth ?

[open fable]

@hallow nymph its their cash cow

it was mentioned and was ignored

[pure junco]

😅 Everyone wishes that had this much

[main elm]

Technically I spent as much time as beating nameless king to beat Rengo inferno

There is a comparison here

[hallow nymph]

But in the beta most people had max level skills and stuff so I thought they were jsut given away constantly during the beta which would make sense

[open fable]

i beat rengoku

and i forgot the gears and now i cant beat rengo again

[pure junco]

Rengo is probably the Nameless King's reincarnation

[open fable]

@pure junco i mean have you seen last months ember trek

[main elm]

[open fable]

some people spent hours on it

[pure junco]

What's the matter Hyperlinker? You need to farm more

[main elm]

If Rengo is nameless king when they gonna release ER Melania

[open fable]

soon

[pure junco]

This game's equivalent to Malenia would easily be a resist all boss

[main elm]

That's Sharon

[pure junco]

Gains 20% HP lost every two turns

Has a second phase

[open fable]

ngl if its sharon that hits like terrormaton

well

[pure junco]

Instead of ads, it's Animuses with high Crit %

[hallow nymph]

Sharon Inferno: 👶
Sharon Ember Trek: 👹

[pure junco]

They gain shields every turn

😂

[main elm]

I'm Sharon, blade of Jack

[pure junco]

Shadow of the Etheria Lily Tree and Sania Nightreighn will be fun

[main elm]

Speaking if Sharon, she finally dropped my Yeli BiS PvE shell

[main elm]

Revenant banner when

[pure junco]

Not enough funds, gotta let the White Knight whales do their part first

[hallow nymph]

wait is golden lion yeli's bis?

[main elm]

For most PvE content yes definitely, as long as the fight isn't 1min burst and repeat

[uncut mica]

For longer PvE content like the combat events yes

[main elm]

Union, phantom, boss score events, any boss that lasts more than 1.5mins...etc

[old zephyr]

Oh people have been quitting and soon only hardcore players like u guys will be left give it two weeks

[main elm]

Will the lion help me get rank 1, that damn Jin gave us a huge damn score gap

@turbid ridge admit it, that 1 run with miraculous RNG u had

Sell that RNG to me

[turbid ridge]

im sure ppl quit for various reasons. My point is that the ppl who have plenty of reasons to quit seem to struggle to leave.

[turbid ridge]

thats not me

imposter

[main elm]

[turbid ridge]

im not whaling like that XD

[main elm]

That's 1 successful imposter

Maybe u r the imposter

[turbid ridge]

the funny thing is he had the same image and frame aswell

[uncut mica]

You could always watch the replay and see how lucky he got. My guess is only valerian got hit by stunbot on nico and resisted 90% of the dispels on Sharon

[main elm]

Yeah the nico stuns going to Valeri is godsend

[hallow nymph]

well idk kinda just seems like people want the game they like to actually improve 😂

[main elm]

Wait there is 2 Jins in top 10 and neither is u @turbid ridge ?

[turbid ridge]

im the worst jin it seems

[main elm]

[turbid ridge]

Im not saying ppl who complain do that on no basis its jsut if your list of complains is THAT HUGE than i personally would leave.

[old zephyr]

Yh you have to excuse them for have hope and passion that the game will get better

But don't worry that hope will die soon give it two weeks

[turbid ridge]

i knew they dont change shit after the first big issue

at least not in a big way

[uncut mica]

People have been saying give it two weeks and everyone will quit since day 4

they're still here

[hallow nymph]

probably why i play this game as a side thing cuz of the auto function. I usually play other games like expedition 33 while i run it on my phone. if it gets better good stuff, if it doesnt well eventually we all will quit.

highly likely

sunkcost fallacy

[old zephyr]

M pretty sure they are not

[main elm]

There is an old saying here that doesn't entirely translates to English properly but it's mostly says "If you want ur friend to stay forever, then keep admonishing him whenever"

It's good to complain to devs about their misconduct to the game so they fix it

[turbid ridge]

i assume most ppl cant quit bc in their mind they would fall behind if the game turns out good

[main elm]

So keep complaining about tbe wrong stuff in the game, it's healthy

[hallow nymph]

gambler's fallacy XD

or just fomo

[main elm]

If you don't complain about the stuff you don't like then the devs will fill their games with it to the point you that you completely give up on it coz they aren't hearing any complains.

Most don't care they just give up and quit coz they aren't emotionally or economically invested in it to voice out their opinions, but the one that does should be catered to than most, within reason ofc, specially that post where every suggestion in it is more rewards without addressing any of the main issue of the game, it's bum mentality 24/7 gameplay and just feed me more rewards

[quaint nexus]

is people still complaining on this?

[warped dune]

Pog gz

[tacit ingot]

quit

[main elm]

A new form of fomo virus, fomo-19

[hallow nymph]

honestly this is the sidechick befroe ananta comes out

[main elm]

This game is a bridge between 2 games for me imo, but I'm still gonna stick with it coz who knows, it's still 1 month old

[warped dune]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-smart-gif-16536398705701482405

[main elm]

6 years of E7, gave my account to a friend to keep it going just as hope if I ever come back

E7 still best gacha game I ever played, but 6 years is alot fam, gotta let go at some point

Explore other stuff

[warped dune]

Very hyped for x2 btw, i am so ready

[small knot]

Yall stop complaining you were never meant to clear endgame content in a month it’s a marathon not a sprint

[turbid ridge]

cant wait for my auto aurora farm that takes 4 min with 50% succes

[warped dune]

Gz mate

[small knot]

If you have so many complaints just stop playing the game

[main elm]

Kongo rats, now time for u to be the ultimate white knight lesgooooo

[pure junco]

Is our Jin a supervillain? 🤔

Mastermind

[warped dune]

Ill be honest yesterday i was very dissatisfied with the state of the game, mainly the economy so i told myself the dev talk today would decide on how much time i will continue to spend on this game but now after the dev talk i am pleased 🙂

[main elm]

He is 1 of the Jins but none of the jin

He is a doppelganger villain

[turbid ridge]

Weird that we have so many Jin in game but im alone here ....

[pure junco]

He's someone yet no one at all? Dang, how do I conceptual nothingness like Jin

[turbid ridge]

okay you got me im that number 1 jin

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[inland warren]

Watch seanb video and get dissatisfied once more

[warped dune]

I saw that

I dont care personally

[pure junco]

👀

[inland warren]

Personally... you are right. Tell that to the f2p players who will quit the game because they are expected to play the game for 6 months before being able to clear inferno

[ripe kraken]

Every week even my and every union is recruiting u know why?

Because every week people are leaving

[pure junco]

Ask Artiar.

I should be his manager at this point

[ripe kraken]

Artiar feels like a ai cc to me at this point

[main elm]

It's true, my guild lost and replaced 15 members so far

The leavers are real, ppl are leaving the game and I don't blane them, game takes too much time

[old zephyr]

It started with u can't clear inferno in one week 3 weeks now a month in still d same issue

[turbid ridge]

they would leave anyway this is by no means a side game even if they nerfd pve

[ripe kraken]

U know a lot of people who tried were busy with academics and left since this game needs 6 hrs.play time

[inland warren]

I personally feel like i'll eventually clear everything. However i spent 2000$

[old zephyr]

Surely everything will be fine in two months just to clear inferno

[main elm]

Yeah he is way too positive he gotta be an inserted Chinese dev AI in the community

[inland warren]

Maybe those who would have stayed will leave because they will be sick and tired of not being able to clear a farming stage

[ripe kraken]

Academics or job make dailies be 1 hr

[old zephyr]

I was being sarcastic lol

[pure junco]

Almost as if people had lives and those left give it benefit of the doubt because they like the game, hmmmm.

[warped dune]

Thats exaggerating. I cleared inferno f2p in 2 weeks. Not all of them but most of them. However if you decide to not refresh you will be crazy behind thats for certain. But yeah they intented this game to be so hard, so either get good or dont bother.

[inland warren]

Fast track to EOS if everyone leaves

We should want casuals and f2p to stay

[ripe kraken]

Ye their get good word will be their downfall

[inland warren]

Not tell them gitgud uninstall

[old zephyr]

Just like Seanb says the game is anti casual a casual player won't be able to play or enjoy this game

[pure junco]

You must become Adept at playing like Adept

[ripe kraken]

Etheria feels like they are apple company of turn based games

But in reality they just entered the field

[old zephyr]

U must have Lily or ssania for this

[ripe kraken]

There are like 3 turn based games coming next year

[main elm]

F2P worst mistake is hoarding the crystals and not using them daily for refreshes, coz what the banners units helped u with ? Nothing really

As F2P, keep pulling on what u have, use ur xtals to refresh daily and build what you have, inferno shouldn't be impossible at this point coz it's all about gear

Gear >>>>>>> unit
Both in PvE and PvP

[ripe kraken]

Honestly expedition 33 being a turn based aaa was good

[warped dune]

What do you mean they are clearly targeting sweatlords as their audience or am i trippin? It seems to me that people are forcing their f2p pve casual hsr, wuwa mindset on this game like braxophone did.

[inland warren]

Bro, game doesn't survive in 1000 whales

Are you that dense?

[ripe kraken]

Yes same mindset people will leave

[warped dune]

Yeah i decided to reroll for lily on my f2p account

[ripe kraken]

New unit really good

[inland warren]

If there are no f2p casuals to win over, there's no reason to play

And no reason to spend

[ripe kraken]

They will play with bots

[turbid ridge]

are you f2p?

[warped dune]

Then we all just wait for eos and enjoy the ride what do u mean

[old zephyr]

Yh just relax very soon u will have a perfect group of niche hardcore players playing the game

[inland warren]

Exactly

[ripe kraken]

So black clover mobile was also same kinda shit right

Like this

[warped dune]

So why keep complaining

[ripe kraken]

How it went eos

Can anyone explain that story

[inland warren]

I didnt want to game to eos

But eh

[turbid ridge]

all gacha eos someday

[main elm]

Honestly my RL friend started 4 days late and he is completely F2P, he is farming half infernos atm.

Terror / Doki / Nico

He only have Lily though, since I bought him a 50$ account with a rerolled Lily
His main DPS is Xiada and Diting

[pure junco]

Brother Manko I get you, but this game was clearly leaning towards P2W and Sweatshop Mindsets. Just chill, don't let the game mess you up

[inland warren]

Someday, not within one year

[warped dune]

I personally dont care who stays, i just enjoy playing the game and if it eos i had a fun time and jump to another game

[turbid ridge]

just enjoy the game and if you cant enjoy it go for the next best thing

[main elm]

I only gave him 1 advice which is keep refreshing stamina and farm gear

[naive sluice]

They’ll be complaining in every future gacha game. It’s not the games themselves they trash, it’s the gacha mechanics. It’s a sort of toxic love-hate relationship.

[inland warren]

I get it. It's obvious, but this is just too obvious

[old zephyr]

Yh just let them complain they will be gone soon

[pure junco]

Outside? 🤡

[inland warren]

No illusion for f2p to compete

It's really sad

[main elm]

Give me 1 game where F2P can compete with whales in the 1st 6 months

Just 1 gacha game

[inland warren]

None, but the gear gap is just too obvious

[main elm]

Yup none there ya go

[pure junco]

Fate Grand Order

[inland warren]

And it feels like shit too

[naive sluice]

Oh dman it's too obvious f2p can't compete oon this game, damn

[inland warren]

Like it's not "oh game is p2w, but at least i can play the game"

[main elm]

Not in the 1st 6 months of release

[inland warren]

No, here you can barely clear farming stages if you are a whale

[old zephyr]

This is why pve should be free for the f2p and casual but instead cocked blocked everywhere

[warped dune]

Bro its not like they dont know all of this obvious stuff that we are talking about. But it clearly seems to me that their core dev team are sweats and they want to enjoy the game for themselfs, so if you align with their vision just stay and help improve the game or leave i guess

[main elm]

You can slowly catch up to whales after a year, and they will still have obvious advantage but beating them won't be impossible at all specially RTA, u win with drafts mostly

[inland warren]

You'll see lots of them playing for one year 🫡

Trying to gear up in order to beat inferno stages

[main elm]

I'm just saying that's literally every gacha game

[turbid ridge]

Hoyo games i heard are pretty easy so i recommend HSR

[main elm]

Saying F2P competing with whales is like saying the American dream is real

Never happened

[pure junco]

Nevermind that! Getting your game running properly back then was crazy

[inland warren]

Bro, what is the part of being able to clear farming stages that doesn't get through your skull?

Why would a f2p subject himself to grind hell4 for 6 months, in order to clear inferno

[pure junco]

Unlimited Blade Works being glitchy was funny though

[turbid ridge]

it seems like you dont have fun. Why play a game thats not fun?

[inland warren]

You are a fucking retard

[main elm]

I mean after couple of years of E7 I'm losing to F2Ps in RTA, I did whale hard early E7 and I was gapping.

Even YDCD called me middle class whale in 1 of his E7 videos

[inland warren]

I'm not talking about myself

[distant wedge]

[pure junco]

FOMO

[naive sluice]

It's easier in this game. Farming is caped, dupes isn't about hidden op mechanics. Want more than that ? Just go play Lol it's totally free and Skill based.

[graceful juniper]

Then again if you are willing to sack some gem and have the right unit you dont even.need 6 month.....but its true inferno are overtune rn without right unit

[turbid ridge]

i might quit before the complainers at this point

[graceful juniper]

Prime example is xiada vs rilmocha on dokidoki

[inland warren]

I literally said i'm not talking about myself

If everyone leaves, game is dead

[distant wedge]

cry babies everywhere

[inland warren]

I dont want the game to die

[main elm]

That's normal, complainers means they still care about the game more than u do

[inland warren]

It's not really that deep

[turbid ridge]

if the game die than its done whats the damn issue just move on than. You had your fun while it lasted

[graceful juniper]

Oh wait....is the conversation go back to inferno is overtune again?

[main elm]

No one wants to spend lettuce 🥬 on a rat that is ONLY used in 1 dungeon

[old zephyr]

We just waiting for endfield and we will be out of your hair

[inland warren]

Because i like the game and i don't want it to die. How is it so hard to understand

[naive sluice]

Anyway, most of the people who whine about it consume gacha games like fast food. They jump from one gacha to the next as soon as something new comes out, like addicts always chasing their next fix.

[main elm]

I'm waiting for Endfield and Chaos zero nightmare or zone idk

[inland warren]

Are you ragebaiting or are you just stupid?

[turbid ridge]

endfield will be like wuwa and genshin?

[main elm]

Bit different

But relatively close

[turbid ridge]

side game at best if it doesnt have pvp/guilds etc

[main elm]

Fakin phone autocorrect

[graceful juniper]

Well its either spend 4 lattice on rat vs 8 lattice on fox.....we are not even talking how easy to gear the rat team

Just speed,acc,codex and you get your run under 1 minute with less rng compare to the fox part

[old zephyr]

This game quality is just not worth the effort tbh

[main elm]

Fox is used in like more than half the content, I will spend on fox

U also forget 1 important thing

Tits

Coz u know

[naive sluice]

if u can't appreciate the quality of this games jst moove on

[old zephyr]

This game has quality?

[main elm]

Yang, is probably the most OP opener, and why he isn't popular?

1- SR
2- highschool kid with a dog
3- doesn't have tits

[graceful juniper]

Ofc the fox used more...but i really getting annoyed with how much fail run i have on the inferno...but the tit reason work lol

[naive sluice]

nice try

[old zephyr]

A game that opens with numerous issues and the devs doesn't know the direction they want to take with their game instead waiting for player base complaints and suggestions to drive their game yeah sure

[main elm]

I will still complain to Jack on why Yang broken kit isn't slapped on a pair of tits

This is a crime

[pure junco]

Then tag him

[turbid ridge]

they know the direction you just dont like it

[main elm]

It's like being born in Switzerland just to realize you'll go back home to Argentina

[pure junco]

Lol such a analogy

[naive sluice]

That’s not really accurate, though. They’ve already implemented a lot of improvements based on feedback. Listening to players doesn’t mean they have no direction.

[old zephyr]

If they did they wouldn't have buffed inferno launch and nerf it after complaints 🤣

[main elm]

@shadow hornet Yang kit is so OP it should have been slapped into a nice pair of tits, not a highschool boy with a dog, this is a crime and highest lvl of blue balling

[naive sluice]

They nerf it bcause a lot of players complained about it

xD

[turbid ridge]

nerf wasnt enough it seems

[inland warren]

Tbf they should nerf it more, but i dont think they are going to anymore

[pure junco]

You guys complain about the complainers, but feed into them by being aggressive and challenging their voices. If you want anyone to stop, just don't say anything and move forward

[main elm]

There, hope he listen and give us a bone

I don't mind being the dog of that unit

[old zephyr]

Why did they buff after the beta they should have double down after that and said my game is meant to be like this

[naive sluice]

The ostrich strategy

[pure junco]

Cool

[warped dune]

Leave instead of complaining, why is it bothering you so much, i am confused.

[inland warren]

Maybe people dont want the game to die

Just maybe

[pure junco]

Of course. I mean this goes both ways for everyone here. If you don't like something, and you can't have a normal conversation like an adult, then don't say anything. Just move on.

[turbid ridge]

yeah sounds like it

for sure XD

[old zephyr]

Gimme me more time m thinking

[warped dune]

It seems to me like you guys watched to much anime and think you have to go out with a big boom as the main protagonist by complaining 24/7 instead of just quietly leaving.

[inland warren]

Obviously everyone has different opinions on everything on the game, but saying "just move on" is so moronic

[distant wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-trending-funny-gif-animated-gif-4483477421889562465

[pure junco]

Hahaha exactly this

[turbid ridge]

not that moronic if you have ppl here who complain since release yet for some reason cant stop playing.

[main elm]

This game slowly turning into love and deepspace

Most OP PvP DPS = Ricardo
Most OP new PvP unit = Holden
Most OP opener = Yang
Most OP support = Vice

[inland warren]

Ever thought that maybe is a way to get attention on a problem that they think is worth to be brought up?

[naive sluice]

It’s not stupid, it just shows that the argument has reached an end and that there’s a lack of understanding between each other

[old zephyr]

Na it's good to speak out your frustration then u can leave ez

[inland warren]

Or you let everything in your life go without ever questioning anything?

[pure junco]

So attacking people is more civilized? Come on man, just cool down for a minute and breathe.

[inland warren]

I'm not attacking anyone. I'm just saying that saying "just quit" is the highway for the game to EoS

[main elm]

If ppl complain let them it's healthy, if they complain about something retarded don't let them it's not healthy

[turbid ridge]

didnt you call me a retard a min ago XD

[pure junco]

And that's that.

[turbid ridge]

or was that someone else

[inland warren]

It was someone else

Regardless, it wasn't an attack, it was stating a fact. Like that water is wet

🤣

[warped dune]

Manko was emotionaly loaded but that wasnt very nice, if he doesnt want the game to eos he should atleast apologize

[inland warren]

Never

[pure junco]

Should we make this into a new season for the real housewives? 😂

[ripe kraken]

Why should manko apologize to a wall lol

That devs built all this days between us and them

[naive sluice]

They’ll leave anyway. What do you prefer? That they leave and trash the place on their way out, or that they just leave quietly?

[main elm]

Advocating for ppl to quit the game is like the same concept as those who advocate for "stop digging for oil"

It's self destructive, doesn't help anyone here, doesn't help the game, and doesn't pretty much help anyone besides satisfying unwarranted hate that came from playing so many gachas to a point of brainrot

[inland warren]

The people in this thread are not going to quit anytime soon

[turbid ridge]

not sure about that i saw ppl threatenig to leave if the talk aint good

[naive sluice]

i'm pretty sure too

[main elm]

[pure junco]

But a lot have quit already

[main elm]

They did yes

[pure junco]

Just not some of the ones commenting

[main elm]

Half my guild quitted and had to replace them

[pure junco]

That sucks man

[inland warren]

I pretty much see the same nanes in thid thread

[main elm]

Guild still doing pretty much fine, didn't lose any GW so far

[half lodge]

There were lots of people here which profile pic i renember that dont chat here anymore and quit

[pure junco]

Exactly

[indigo oyster]

Wow so the current inferno level is intended to be this hard?

[turbid ridge]

good for them better for their health and use your time on things that make you happy

[old zephyr]

My group chat of friends have already quit from week 1 m the last man standing 😭

[pure junco]

🤷‍♂️ apparently

[warped dune]

I really enjoyed the talk

[main elm]

If ppl wanna move on let them be, don't patronize the ones that stays, most ppl left the mmorpg genre and called it a relic of the past, but not me, I'll still play these games so hard till I die or be old enough to be not physically capable to

[half lodge]

What mmos do you like?

[warped dune]

Got 16 years of wow on my back and i am still standing strong

[pure junco]

But you have free heals, you're immortal

[old zephyr]

I wish the game was good enough for it to be worth the effort

[turbid ridge]

look such statements make me say just move on.

[main elm]

WoW still my no.1 but I stopped playing it since 2 years ago since 2004.

I pretty much played most mmorpgs to their extent.

GW2 finished all endgame
FFXIV finished all the savages on the couple expansions I played
Rift, done all endgame raids
SWTOR.

And much more than I don't even remember

[main elm]

I'm top healer in WoW

[warped dune]

You have friends? Sorry i couldnt hold myself back from scoring this assist.

[indigo oyster]

Game is good, it just that they tryna cater to many people but not at the same time lol

[old zephyr]

It good enough to play for a month or two so amma still be here

[main elm]

Last year when playing SoD WoW, reached rank 1 EU healing in that raid

[inland warren]

Many people? Lol

[pure junco]

That's why I said they're gonna have to choose the White Knights, F2P or the Whales. But no matter what they choose, they'll lose something within the next few weeks depending on their plans going forward

Not everyone will be satisfied

[half lodge]

Can i Ask you one more question, I AM just really curious, if it isn't in your comfort zone dont bother responding

[inland warren]

I dont really see how catering a bit more to f2p fuck whales over

[old zephyr]

Na they have a small niche of hardcore players they want but some hardcore players want some casual players there too cause the more the merrier

[half lodge]

And also thanks for such a detailed reposne btw healfree

[inland warren]

Saying this as a pretty heavy spender

[main elm]

Go ahead bro

I'm too old to be that sensitive anyways

[half lodge]

What is your job that you do i renember your post how much you have spent and was just curious

[main elm]

I'm Dept. Head in a highschool for ICT subject

[half lodge]

Wow damb

Damn

[main elm]

Ofc I'm on vacation now otherwise I won't be yapping here alot

Semester over

[pure junco]

That's just it my man, they want money. By offering challenges they can offer packages, characters like Yeli, things F2P won't be able to give them.

Harder content means more money to the try hards

And the market is full of them

Games like Hsr and the like are easy, so these guys don't play that

[half lodge]

The only MMO i have played more was 4story when i was a kid and recently lost ark

[warped dune]

Weak i am still rank 15 fire mage worldwide on retail

[main elm]

#1387176276028031026 message
I made a post here, whales are suffering as much or albeit bit less than F2P are, but we all suffering from this, and good thing they are addressing it

[pure junco]

And unfortunately, other companies like Hoyoverse doesn't tap into this market very well

[tribal osprey]

Nah, tribe 9 learned this the hard way

[main elm]

Lot of 99s POG

[indigo oyster]

They just don’t want to from the way they are talking about these in game event/economy saying that having excess amount of coin will lead to player not wanting to do content just because they have excess amount is stupid when the game takes u dozens of hours to the casual to get that currency just to wasted it on 1 module

[pure junco]

They totally did. Poor management, poor marketing, it was horrible

Tribe Nine shot themselves

[tribal osprey]

The amount of people that left after the shark fight lmfao

[main elm]

Last cutting edge I did on retail was Denathrius, after that I just play M+

I didn't touch war within

[inland warren]

Regarding coins, they are not tho... however i do agree that that problem will fix itself overtime, and the reasoning they provided for it, does make sense in my head

[indigo oyster]

Even whales are complaining and they say events and long time in the game will fix it

[pure junco]

Man oh man, did it become one of the fastest games to EOS. That was crazy considering how jacked the IP. Is dude

[tribal osprey]

With devs like that anything is possible

[main elm]

Fastest EOS is concord

No one beating that

[pure junco]

Lmfao

[tribal osprey]

Nah there was a game that EOS on launch

[warped dune]

War within is fire, just taking a break waiting for new patch playing etheria on the side

[tribal osprey]

Some idle game

[main elm]

[pure junco]

What was the argument again? "You guys are Nazis for not supporting concord?"

[tribal osprey]

Yep

[pure junco]

Lmao

[tribal osprey]

Also misogynist, racist, sexist, homophobic

[main elm]

I just can't get back to WoW, I just want to try new stuff, 20 years playing it is enough for me

[tribal osprey]

Arachnophobic

[pure junco]

Every damn thing huh

[tribal osprey]

You were Satan if you didn't support them

[pure junco]

Just like Assassin Creed Shadows

Now that's a game even a newbie developer could make better

[tribal osprey]

Yasuke simulator

[pure junco]

Man it's crazy how the game industry is full of clowns compared to 20 years ago

[warped dune]

We are all waiting for league mmo in our hearts

[main elm]

It's mind-blowing how the makers of vanilla WoW is such ahead of time that their game still the best MMORPG even now

Makers of WC3

[pure junco]

Now that you mentioned it? Yeah WoW is still pretty good

[main elm]

Blizzard was built different 2-3 decades ago

[warped dune]

Yeah wow release changed gaming history in a sense

[pure junco]

At least it will never be final fantasy 11

[main elm]

There is no league mmo, the one who was making it closed shop and starting his own MMORPG

[warped dune]

Wow even became mainstream if you remember how the whole media was talking about it back then

[main elm]

Therefore it got shut down

[pure junco]

DOTA is still around right?

[distant wedge]

Dota 2 yes

[warped dune]

Tryndamere said they will release their mmo before 2030 for sure

[main elm]

If u waiting for a real mmorpg, wait for project ghost, made by ghostcrawler himself, the lead director of WOTLK WoW also lead director of league mmo but he middle fingered riot and left

[pure junco]

I see there's a 2 xD

[distant wedge]

i mean the first one is warcraft 3 so

[turbid ridge]

you all cope for those mmos .....

I WAIT FOR STAR CITIZIEN

[main elm]

Fuck off let us cope, that's what I live for, fucking mmorpgs

[warped dune]

He was streaming his wow hardcore journey and someone in the chat asked him about league mmorpg and he said they will have it ready before 2030

[main elm]

Doubt but who knows

[pure junco]

Lol where have I heard that before. Don't worry the team will be releasing this within the next twenty years

[main elm]

The real reason riot was making an mmo because they had the best "currently in business" mmorpg director in the world working for them, so it was a golden opportunity

He left, they closed the project, and that's it

[inland warren]

I was waiting for AoC lol

But that's probably like star citizen

[pure junco]

Riot is also going through a lot right now

[warped dune]

Riot is the only company that has enough recources to pull up a mmorpg that can rival wow

Twitch would explode

[main elm]

I don't think riot mmo will see the light, mmorpg isn't a hit anymore and properly the most expensive ans difficult thing to pull off unfortunately, as painfully as to say and hear that, but unfortunately it's the truth

Kids don't play mmorpgs anymore

They consistents 80% of the playerbase

[warped dune]

The amount of publicity would skyrocket for lol mmorpg

[main elm]

Look at genshin and Fortnite

Roblox

..etcetc

[pure junco]

They're very hopeful about Valorant however

[main elm]

Valorant also zoomer game imo

[pure junco]

Feels like a lot of zoomer games are looter shooters

[warped dune]

I mean you clearly can make easier games that are more profitable than mmos, but riot never seemed to me like a cash grab company.

[main elm]

ppl don't like to play months to be good, they want to get into the game in 1st hour and win, therefore u get popular games like that "valorant, Fortnite, marvel rivals...etc"

[warped dune]

So ill belive thats the only thing i can do

[main elm]

Now try to get into WoW 3v3 competitive arena and reach high rank

U need a literal PHD in WoW PvP

[warped dune]

Thats a whole ass different issue.

[pure junco]

With those you can't be behind unless you're someone who is obsessed with leaderboards, that's why you can cater to the casual player base

[main elm]

I reached gladiator in TBC, but the amount of sweat back then can't express it with words

[warped dune]

They should never have gone for advertising arena as their main pvp selling point. They should have focused on BGs which is way more interesting to watch and easier getting into as a new player. In arena you do 1 mistake you lose, but in bgs you can easily become useful by carrieng the flag or something.

[main elm]

They did RBGs but ppl play arenas are x10 more

It's easier to have 1 or 2 to play with than a plan with 9 other folks to play with

It's design issue

[small knot]

What are bgs

[main elm]

U need 9 other SWEATFUCKS to compete in RGB

It's hard to pull off

[warped dune]

I mean the RBG community is quite big now, but they fucked up their advertisement for that and the roots arena has in wow history are to deep to expect people to switch by randomly dropping RGB mode and say have fun

[main elm]

Rated battlegrounds

Bgs are battlegrounds, Rbg is rated

[pure junco]

That's disappointing

[main elm]

Arena has eSports, RBGs doesn't

arena was probably the biggest eSport in the world back in 2008-2012

[small knot]

So like

The strongest battlegrounds from Roblox??????????

[pure junco]

I could see that

Just like how big Tekken tournaments used to be

Kinda missed those days

[warped dune]

This is one of the many fuck ups wow did over the time and killing potential game changers. Thats why i am so resistent to this whole drama going on in etheria. I got cooked so hard over multiple years in wow that idc

[small knot]

Oh like those battle royale games

[warped dune]

I just have fun playing the game and if its eos i jump to another game

[small knot]

Google says pubg

And apex

And valorant???

I don’t see the correlation

But slay if

Ig**

[pure junco]

Not to mention all the WoW CC drama over the years is like watching a world burn down lmfao

[pure junco]

Yep

[ripe kraken]

Did world of war craft die

Don't famous cc still get sponsored by it

[pure junco]

Yes and No

It's still alive

[main elm]

Not battle royal no

It's different

[pure junco]

Also adding to this, I remember BlazBlue is also involved with Esports hahahaha

[warped dune]

Thats one of the smaller problems. Can you recall when this whole ass rape shit was going on etc? Or the babymilk stealing scandal? They got cooked so hard they started to remove +18 stuff in game and almost every picture of a woman was replaced with fruit pictures. That was prime wow drama.

[main elm]

Nah, it's still no.1 mmorpg, it speaks volume on how less and less ppl play mmorpgs

[pure junco]

I bet you could find a video documentary on this shit 🤣

[main elm]

It's a planned attack on the company to kick the CEO so the company get bought and it did.

If you see anything happen to something, check who got the most out of it, there will be the answer

It was weak due to all the woke shit

So best time to attack and acquire it

Who have the power to go against a company that large ? Simple, a bigger company

[warped dune]

Yeah 100% and i was going through that shit, it was insane. After that their image was so damaged they became a doormat for a lot of lgbtq shit etc. The moment somebody complained they instantly bent. Its for a reason we still have "changing bodytype" as our change gender option.

[main elm]

Besides bobby koDICK wasn't really an upstanding citizen either

[warped dune]

Imagine that were the problems we had to deal with over years and people complain about communication in etheria after 2 weeks of the release.

[warped dune]

Bobby can suck my swedish meatballs.

[main elm]

I mean to be fair, it's different in gachas, ppl invest in them far harder and in much shorter period than any MMORPG

There were like, do I spend more time and money into this or should I close shop and go somewhere

The amount I spent in ER in 2 weeks is equivalent to WoW in 5 years

There is that

[warped dune]

I am just saying, getting an almost 1 hour video of our ccs talking to an actual dev about the communitys concerns etc, is insane and unheard of. I am very grateful for that.

[main elm]

I don't think the game is doing THAT bad tbh, the only thing being "that bad" in ER is the time requirement to play it, it's more than any gachas I played which is concerning, literally anything else can be solved with time

But our time being lost this much everyday can't keep up for long

I'll leave, half my guild did

[pure junco]

And unfortunately that's the reality man

[main elm]

They need to fix the time consumption for this game or the stream of leaving players will be more and consistent

[pure junco]

People will leave and that's that

[warped dune]

Yeah the time commitment is insane. Ive been playing this game everyday for 5+ hours its insane.

[pure junco]

If it does last another year, it'll probably be better