#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k
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I'm excited to have the purples for doro some day
like the 5 betas before launch 
i doubt they knew what the purpose of betas were
or this game was just
low effort from the start
this is what I keep saying. 300 eff acc and I still miss way too much
10% is a fucking lie.
Bosses definitely have innate eff res
we discussed it before
its just we dont know what the value is
Yep. The betas seemed similar to each other but then the final beta happened where there were posts with negative likes saying to make inferno difficult and remove ranked skins. And well. Here we are
When did this happen? Me and some friends been playing it for half a year no region lock
plats don't even have 6* team lol
interesting the community asked for harder, guess they got it. just mega over tuned.
14 championship wins in a single Saturday, the things I do for an arena frame cosmetic
don't forget dokidoki too :FrogeAnime-1:
Nice. How long it last?
this PvP championship was so mid
It's permanent as far as I know
you can tell most the people be scuffed cause they all in niche inferno comps
2 of the people were 100% bots
“Community” just one person
HUH?
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No way
I cant believe this
They actually communicated
We might actually reach perfection
looks pvp
Aurora def breaker and dokidoki cc+def breaker
double banner again? lol
they said they will go with 1 banner every 3 weeks
i think this is the last multi banner phase
double banner? wdym...its just future char leak
theyre coming out in 4 days
Hes blue
aurora red right?
They seemed reluctant to share info on the second character (in their roleplay) - which implies to me that it'll come at a later date than the waifu
oh wait...you can use this guy on dokidoki too
Read terrormaton
Yes!
both,

Absolutely useless video
lol...terrormaton is the green one
Didn't address anything
rengo nerf waiting room
funny enough the only thing they address is the revelation
Only that diting not getting nerfed THIS season
Diting and my 3 revelations are safe, for now
Same
they said both will release july 10 lol
He didn't impress me
farm your revelation for pvp guys....they are in-line with the game and balance XD
His kit seems extremely simple and lackluster
there's one guy in general chat rn who is insisting that he is better than heinrich by a lot
The block debuff is interesting, but I'd have to see if that alone is worth it
well it help you vs
the light doggo,the chess girl on tower,aurora buffer,niconana spd and attack buffer(oh yea he can freeze the minion too)...idk anymore
can you cc the rengo minion?
The freeze is a single tick of damage, isn't it? That's why I'm mostly ignoring the freeze
CC in this game is insanely inconsistent if it doesn't come with a 3-hit attack like Kaz or Obol's S3
oh yea 1 tick but you can buff it up to 100%(90%),well its up to you
I think he'll need to provide more than what I'm seeing, but who knows, if someone figures out some neat things to do with him, I'll get him
wind unit looks fun for pvp
he just looks pretty basic
freeze rate is decent and def down rate also decent
If the S3 was 3 hits of 100% instead of 1 hit of 300%, he'd be incredible
I don't trust single hit skills in this game
fr....even 2 hit from ssania sometimes doesnt land the dot
same
only on lower elo where people dont bring bulwark
every cc unit is useful in pvp tbh
and he have dispel/block/def break
no meaningful fixes, 2 new banners, fuqiu
oh my god
let me fix revelation by dropping a character that give 2 turn shield
what set do u think she will run
Bruh why are they making all the best supports hollow 💀
yeah they should make more ld ssr supports
well theres supposedly a qna session tomorrow with some cc to discuss community issues, surely they will address the main issues right lol
or fortisimmo
Monthly recap is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this
oh right i was thinking lighthouse
will there be?
or just speculation
or she run halloween, her S3 is a 4 turn cooldown
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thats from their x post
Seanb got shelved
they better discuss inferno difficulty, inferno drop rates, game economy aka upgrading / recycling costs
Cuz he talked too much shit about devs
Yay who else is excited to pull a unit we cant build. Soo motivated to pull 😐
??
The only content creator that can save us is being ignored 
i mean its not bad....iferno dokidoki has -max hp mecanic,now you can get a big shield from her
shield is basically half of most ur character hp if 50-60k hp
we building character?
good kits and then u look at ur gold lattice and u facepalm LOL
So i am watching the video know why do they call her S1 buff serenity but then it's called moonlit veil in the description they are showing
how is the video itself wrong already

ok so let's bet
which one will have the right information in the video and in game
and which one wont
isn't it classic at this point
the video itself is wrong already
i think the serenity one is from chiaki KEKW
pls give reconfigure
my bet is fuqiu getting whacked but they aren't gonna update the showcase
nvm it's ave maria
I don't see why we would ever pull for her with chiaki available
Did this thread reach 100 k messages
I'm not even sure she's an upgrade
she cant even purify
Does he have def break

he's def break, dispel and freeze
For saving me
yes
That's so op for doki
He is literally a doki doki bot its insane
122 base speed
Time to retire kazuyo
Still doesn't beat kloss base speed
Put codex on his ass and ggs
What skill needs investment
I have 5 lattices
Can get 10
But will only use 5
he looks good w/o skill up
Since I need to max lingluo s1
I guess s3 until you reach the 90% chance
What's the other unit
Fuqiu
fuqiu is turn meter aa
Feels cracked tbh
nahor gonna maximize his slay with viper in aurora
Wait a aurora dps?
For f2p
Reason: Spam

So can we use only one healer in aurora now
Or still two healer with this new odd unit
does val count as a healer
i think removing kaz from your team is just going to reduce the stability
kazuyo having 3 activation chances to trigger a cc makes her so much more reliable than any other option unless they also multi hit
So tell a new doki team now
I have massiah lily kazuyo
i mean he just goes in the defbreaker slot like kloss/gray/etc
Or lingluo since my massiah isn't on inferno gear
Tq
he also water
Helped a lot
so he gonna get slapped
who knows
atm aurora runs double sustain no defbreak so i dont think he really slots in well
hes good but i dont think hes gonna be OP
freeze does nothing to aurora
so hes just a def break+strip on s2
He is there for dispel
So only that qi something is aurora unit?
dunno
Since low hp turn meter boost
i dont think shes that good in doki2 either
fuqiu is green
good unit but
other unit is wind so she'll get sent to space immediately upon aurora hitting her
Dang
nahor would be good for the super super fast clears the use dinah for defbreak
Terra might not need her since if ur low hp in terra ur dead meat
i'd imagine he might be able to if the adds dont start green
but he will immediately get sent to space upon freezing them if the boss shifts to green, but iunno im not too exp with rengo farm
best units for rengo = LD probably
they said they not nerfing until rta close
they also mentioned that revelation freya is okay so don't expect that to go anywhere
how about farms ?
yeah i agree its ok and has counters
they didnt talk about farming i believe
oh they did mention 2x will come back at some undisclosed point
There's is no best unit for Rengo
Cause you take more damage still
yeli is the best dps there since she can self cleanse the atk debuff
imo
THAT'S WHAT I SAID
But people said she's mid
Smh
Both the atk and defense down
But there is no best unit
Cause for DPS
If you're the countered element
It's like 90% chance you're dead
50% def pen
about the new units, do we know if they are coming after yeli or ?
did they say anything about them
Nope
They said coming next
But they did say that
Banners will be fixed 3 weeks from now on
After Yeli
thank you
yes, july 10
Did they mention date?
how about economy issues did they adress that ?
none lol
like buffing shell/choin income
yep
no lol
answering me or ?
yea
2x event
character
and wuwa/hsr tower mode
it better be like somnoire where i could get the most absolutely diabolical buffs
oh they mentioned tower sort of event ?
like ToA ?
it's like simulated universe from hsr, i forgot what wuwa call it
I mean realistically what would be different from ember trek tho
its like a psuedo roguelike, you'll clear a room and have doors you can go to next for challenges up until a final boss
Oh cool
and biweekly lock 1 affinity that u cant use
that sounds good
thanks guys
looks like
we might actually reach perfection at this rate

did they say there was 2x lol
A YouTuber lied?????
they just said there would be in future
They basically said eventually
which is god knows when
someone says there supposedly a qna session tmr w cc
could be 1 month could be 1 year lmao
Could be 4 years
more info tomorrow 
the man is here
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Just posting this in every thread because people missed that they have the dev talk under all of the blind hate
He's one step closer to Bzz
No sean b?
Yep
Hey I mean they didn't mention it in the youtube video
Seanb was hating to much on devs so they kicked him
Heavenz did u get into that top 84 union
Just kidding no idea why no seanb
We'll see what happens. Until then, just chill
Probably true
By not inviting sean they reached perfection
I mean they literally put that in their description but it seems like people dont read that anymore. Atleast their comment section doesnt 
Monday we'll know everything
eos
To quit or not to quit
when u quit u should call Jack a dumbwhore
can u give a taste
Beta: almost entire roster was useful in multiple contents. Launch: Increase difficulty so only a few units are multi-use, use this to justify the roster being "thin" and needing to pump out more and more banners at an extreme rate. Post-launch: release banner for character named "fuq u" to really show the players you are monitoring.
Where fuqu even excels
pvp

think she would also be good in pve for slow strats but nobody got time for 5 minute farms
instead of sub 1 minute or 2 minute
If they release more content that needs more than one comp
If you pay attention, you will see that her name is a message to the players
She might be useful
FU 🤣🤣
she will be good on bruiser teams with bloodbath + bullwark
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I bet you everyone who kept saying that here won't, they'll just say "I'll give it time"
if you're f2p you can just play casually
already quit lol
Surely tomorrow's video will save the game and make me come back

Good Bye, I had fun playing this game last 1 month
I might come back once the economy issue is resolved
E7 anniversary starting Tomorrow I don't have time to waste on this game
If they fix ingame economy and some other major problems then I might think about downloading again
Was it actually fun? Or did you try to convince yourself it was fun when it really wasn;t?
🙏
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i mean tomorrow has that dev talk
The real fun is the rng we made along the way
It was fun unit I started to upgrade module and reroll for passive
This hypertalk is fucked hahaha
Oh do you not like the rng?
Etheria devs like it
They love the grind!
They love rng
They hope you love it too 🙂
Etheria:Restart is a great game just ask XD staff member c
"uh we won't nerf Diting this season. Also we think it's cool to not snapshot arena gear." Fuck off!
the hypertalk had no jack or volkin and it was just a new char showcase on what we might get
cuz theres no guarantee what we see is what we'll get in game
booo
REVELATION IS WORKING AS INTENDED
meanwhile the tournament was boring as hell
what did you expect
I just hate that after farming a day , I was only able to upgrade 1 module
Revelation working as intended! We may nerf Diting next season! No gear snapshots for arena! More RNG events! Woo!
Your undies didnt get wet?
it was literally just counter rev, draft as many rev, ban protect rev, target ban rev, try and steal ur opponent's rev
Etheria: Revstart
with enough equips this wont be a problem
exclaimed c who thought fangus could replace ssania in a dot team
ok
but that's what they actuallyt said 😭
Thats exactly what im doing lol
also apparently the community will work together to counter rev and use all 1 matrixes and shell to do so
according to c
How's life been since quitting
and ya know said shell is hidden in rengo's asshole
?????
Don't worry
We can upgrade everyone to 6 stars
"That speed advantage" 🤡
Is he trolling
I watched some of it and share the exact same sentiment. Thought there'd be a little more depth to high end PVP. Really disappointing
so he got all the early game event/quest rewards
the only excitement i got was lilith whacking the rev team kekker had
Where inferno nerfs
1 day in 
They play their game? 🤔
They have their 3 year olds play it
🤡 don't you have speed advantage? Git Gud
cuz it's all rng
the entire rengoku is casino
Wait so they aren’t releasing drelzhar
Well I guess it's just banners for $ and no info on economy fixed
They will release after the 2 banners
And dual pve PvP gear they just said get better
YO MOM
drelzhar was a fake
FUQ U I
Er characters are ai tho how can you tell the difference between them
FUQ I U
Hey hey. Best boy c is immortal, you don't understand his machinations
hey dont be mean to c
Did they use different ai this time
he is trying his best
instead of arena snapshots they rlly said with enough equipment this wont be a problem lmao
fuqiu's art style is pretty different from
nahor
fuqiu looks like they were tryna copy silver and blood
The real question
like why does she look so different
lolol
i quit e7 cuz of shit speed roll
do u think ER has reached perfection
and/or pureness
its pure something
pure bullshit rng
Chatgpt I like this image, could you make a character like this.
Adds details
For me please.
Wait is the white guy in this video C
yes
Oh lmao
bet
yea but it's so like
lol at that point i wouldnt say anything cuz dont give ppl
false hope
stimulated universe ig
i swear i saw this mode somewhere before
yeah
hsr
Yea but mods have no real power
ah
That's the whole point
Roguelike mods aren't unique to wuwa and HSR
it looks really similar tho
yea i hope this roguelike will be exciting
as in the layout
It's really up the devs themselves to do something
Aah
but seeing their pve
So I don't really get it when people shit on mods
i have low standards
"OMG WHY AREN'T MODS DOING ANYTHING"
thats the pain of middlemen
they have to take all the shit
while being unable to do anythig
What are mods
Ok well one banner every 3 weeks is kinda crazy icl
You know those things that drops from terrormaton doki and aurora?
Those are mods
You put them on your char and it gives you set bonuses and stats
i disagree
The final boss in the roguelight will be super ridiculous unless you have the right units and right rng buffs watch
Oooooooh. What's a Doki? And why does she DokiDoki
I can’t tell if nahor will be good or bad…….
mid
slander
He would be nice for aurora if the adds didn’t just cleanse the block 
24% shield from her max hp kinda huge
Nahor might be usable in CC comps for arena tho
yeah but
Freeze is pretty good
who has time to care about arena
Astonishing clairvoyance Aiaz
50% chance… 
i think he will be average
for cc teams as well
it is a single hit cc
Nope
am i blind
Well then RIP
is it 2 or 1 hit
Nope
1 hit
One
so hes mid
yeah thats kloss levels of consistent
2 effects

You're a prophet now huh
i disagree
mid
With your username, you are biased
Kloss is 100% chance tho 
Holden is not mid tho
On s3 at least
He was what alot of people needed to farm inferno imo
I mean, he Holds everything In
i dont use him at all tbh
like his big
Kloss is more consistent I think. Higher application chance
sword
i alr had veronika built
Yea that's if you already had Veronika
keep it in your pants
Right. Because he's Hold-ing
But not everyone has every unit at their disposal
My friend didn't have any viable dispel for Terror at all
if they actually nerfed pve more
oh no
u would hold his sword
all of the rgb releases would be good
fuqui, hoyan and holden are all great in rta
im not convinced by nahor
and then freya is public enemy #1
It'll make white knights cry
but since average playerbase is stuck on pvve
I'm glad they gave me a reason to keep stockpiling towards a future pity instead of chasing this week. The only silver lining
did u know that
it's a sprint not a marathon
yeah at this point i dont even think of pvp lmao
You already know how fuqui will perform in RTA? Do you know something?
Ok well since drelzhar ain’t releasing anytime soon I’ll just pull on ld banner
hoyan and holden are defo built to be more pvp centric
Where's the prydwen tier list placement
👹
i cant even do pvp if my pve teams still need work lol
If I get Mio or Heinrich I will be uninstalling
i just do the bare min for pvp or ai arena
Up my arse sadly. Good luck finding it
tbh holden is good in pve if you don't have veronika

Am I allowed a row boat when traveling around the world?
best terror stripper still
it's a marathon not a SPRINT
well if you dont have veronika
hes one of the few to have strip on s3
so yeah
thanks devs
Then we gotta row row our boats huh
oh damn the crew has assembled
o boy
Roundtable full of bosses!!!!
Commanders of the Zzz Knights
he wasnt thrown out
Yeah they just left him out of the announcement lmao
ready for all the public glazing
Avengers
Phew! We almost lost something precious to humanity
Dissasemble
should have brought this guy in
he says he was in the call for hours lol - SeanB
hes gooning
Hours? Must be the business man we all wished to become
What are they talking about for hours
Oh yea
gooning to the new character
Fuqiu might be usable for Aurora
Gooning for hours lmao
Since everyone just heals on their turn
getting cook cuz anti ele
u know who else is green
asshu
bet they did it on purpose
they were like aurora stays winning
while u flops losing
Her kit would be perfect for Aurora
Start a petition Heavenz
they could just make her red
Yeah she is
It's literally what you need for Aurora
there's been 3 green releases now
fuq iu
A basically permanent heal
from flamel
FUQ U
I mean I farm Aurora no problem
MUST BE NICE
I was just hope for another healer cause I don't want to build Mia
You know the theory might not be wrong
i farm aurora no problem, 100% wr
If her kit is that useful for aurora
on hell 4 that is
I don't get what's good about Mia I tried her she feels trashy
As in people are saying that if you have her you can clear Inferno Aurora 100%
💀
But
I don't see how she helps
She only heals on S3
If she healed instead of giving a stupid shield
s2 strip
Then yea
cdr reduction
S3 isn't usually consistent
heal
I already permanent strip with Viper
Aurora is basically naked 90% of the time
but probably stabalizes the run
Are you telling me I should go to the lattice mines?
you mean the shop?
mia is like
lingluo event is back
so bad imo for pve
1 lattice pack
Are you telling me I should go to the lattice mines?
but heinrich exists
which lingluo event
Imagine how I felt pulling mia early in the game 
the dazzler party event?
and also a pack for another
yeah
im f2p now so i didnt buy any
i used to buy em all
oh no
bro that xiada
um that's the xiada event
yeah im voting with my wallet
noble 2p player
u gave me hope
oh
and then destroyed it
you'll never be perfection
Good everyone here makes 5 figures and bought the entire shop out huh
im living under a bridge
ew
I make 4 figures and I still buy out the shop
i make six figures
Imeanwhat
blame Jack he did this
hi nepo me in pls
sorry i mean im jobless
Wait let me get this straight
That's because you're a heavensent entity conceptualizing PvP
Yes
??????
that's cuz u slept with jack
Yes
yes
its to prevent whales from
getting 5/5 of all ld ssr
Yeah
👹 I hope everyone dies
since u can whale crystals unlimitedly
same
Sigh time to wait for next week
A fat load of help that does I still see whales with 5/5 of every LD running around in RTA
if they let u pull with crystal on ld banner
I'm already dead
whales gonna go crazy
I LOVE REVELATION AS MUCH AS I LOVE ETHERIA RESTART
well it makes it harder
most guys on;y have 5/5 massiah and yeli
Yea but with how cheap perm banner is
Etheria Revelation
Relative to other games of course
i wouldnt know ive done 1k summons and no ldssr
the tournament made me shed tears of joy Everytime I saw revelation
cuz it showed true creativity
But does Rev and Etheria love you as much?
Well git gud and git lucky
yes I pay for Jack's Uber with my spending
You're about to witness greatness when I finish my builds in a month

jack dont need uber
Everyone is revelation
he drives a yacht
we can make out
Oh shit you're the Messiah
RELEASE NEW PLAYERS WHEN WE CANT EVEN INVEST IN THEM
WE ARE XD
WE ARE DELUSIONAL
WE DO NOT ACCEPT REALITY
WE DONT KNOW OUR OWN GOALS
WE GRIND FOREVER
a land yacht wow
He makes them carve out a river that stop outside the office
Just so he can drive his yacht
GET OUT OF MY WAY
Are you putting in a resume
PLEBS
Blaze family, deranged leader
no rumor pls
It's not a rumor tho
He went from aggravated to deranged 🤔 not close enough for perfection
So is the green girl any good?
she looks gr8t
Sure
The blue clown looks bad
She's probably ok
Don't know why she's Hollow
for pvp very good
for pve for slow strats she should be good
Probably best as Odd
I run revelation. So I don't think it helps me 
yeah definitely not

the blue guy is just not it imo
i would be happy to be wrong about him
but i think he will suffer from kloss syndrome in pvp
Isn't he just a def down bot?
For Doki
She's good if you
Kloss is just better
Can somehow make her not green
Nah
Cause then she is probably BiS for Aurora
Every boss fight has adds
Otherwise trash imo
Ah yes, my solution to heartbeatheartbeat
He def down and freezes the adds
i think she can actually work in rengo inferno farm
Yea but Valerian is just better
Cause Valerian buffs you AND makes you less likely to get suddenly deathed
True
So she's useless
Cause there's only one place in PVE rn that I would want that kit
And it's aurora
Unfortunately she wouldn't last there
i think she has potential for rengo farm
Won't work on auto since he will be using s3 first instead of the dispell
Who are you dispelling?
Yea but the thing is then youll run double Green
Like I said if she was ANY color but green
nah 1 green just her
Aurora starts with the immune no?
I dont know how you survive without Kloss
Miracle?
And then he kills you turn 2
Yeah but you Aurora already has easy 100% success teams, they just need Lilly or Tsukiyo
no
He will be useful in Rengokutsu, Hoyan, or for Nico
If he does 90% of your health its still 50% of your health without Kloss mitigation with bloodbath
thats fine
As long as he starts on counter element you are fucked without Valerian
Back to RNG
Or cracked for normal PvP cleave
Even more so without Kloss
i mean the yeli strat is literally 100% win rate
Hoyan obol is just better
over a sample size of 100+
With Kloss right?
no
Obol is better in dot teams
why would you use kloss its not consistent
Otherwise no
Whats the Yeli strat
its iampauls team
Its about 80% winrate
80% is still prety damn good
artisan
but don't think you can make it work without bloodbath
if you are running kloss
its a different strat anyway
i am surprised you can get 80% on kloss
thats impressive
i will share the guide if the person who made it allows me to
Nah it's fine
If the person wants to be some secretive prick then it's okay
I'm fine with my current comp anyways I was just wondering what shell was he using
Fine you're permitted
Even if someone wants to be secretive in a RNG filled game, the probability of others achieving what you've accomplished is never zero. So like, there's definitely better ways out there unseen
Zeebo shared it in a vid
Gatekeeping pve guides is crazy
That’s gotta be a new level of low
Still struggling to clear this stage?
Still stuck on that stage?
why yall hating on artiar
This F2P PLAYER cleared EVERY DUNGEON (Sania and Lily in thumbnail)
Wasnt it labelled (almost)
I mean every one of his videos is some variant on that. Just bland
Also he got picked for that tweet about being stuck on hell 4 or whatever
So he became synonymous with the devs being tone deaf

This really confused me, why the hell wouldn't they snapshot arena gear, they already have that system implemented in the Unions, so it's a literal copy paste change, there's no downside or game exploit to allowing snapshot for those 4 units set in arena defense, I don't understand.
Bcos it demotivates you from making full sets of gear for each unit
They want you to farm more
They're just straight up telling us to deal with it and that once we get more gear that won't be a problem - but that's not necessarily true. If I want to use the same unit I'm using in my arena def for PvE, I may not want them to have pvp stats, I may need them speed tuned in a certain way and built in a certain way that is bad for pvp
Hopefully using crystal to refill
So, this will always be a problem no matter how much gear or how good our gear is
Everyone is gonna farm doki doki majority of the time anyways
Then its probably just not on the devs radar at this point
So they just included the part about it to show they answered the player question
"Answered"
But you only need to gear those 4 units for arena defense, you still need 30 sets of gear for all the units you'll be using in rta
This isn't a deal breaker to me, because I've been dealing with this system of sharing the same gear for arena and PvE in SW for the last 10 years, but I just don't get the logic to limiting quality of life like that
It serves no purpose
SW has like 800 units and showers you with runes and lets you actually upgrade them though
Like my Vanessa isn't ever getting used in PvP and neither is her shield shield will set
PvE*
And building her didn't take away from my ability to do GBAH 
I think the bigger difference is that the most meta units in SW are not PvE units, they're very very pvp centric units, so it's rarely an issue that you need to use your arena defense unit for anything else
Yeah
Also true
even if it's 2 units every 3 weeks we'll be pretty bottlenecked that way for a while
I suppose that* several years down the line once we have like 500 units here, it'll be the same
Still see no point in not giving that simple, harmless quality of life update
Right
It's a problem now, SW anni is still going on, E7 anni is about to start, like 5 gachas launch a month, idk what they're smoking
I never played SW or E7 but everything I read about it makes it sound like really shitty games
Whatever Rahu is smoking is what they're smoking
I dont see this game surviving several years tbh
I give it like 3 years max
I'mma probably get back into Arknights after Monday
We'll see
There are people who love this game despite it's flaws man
etheria of angels 2
Lmao
But but, at least unequipping gear doesn't cost Gold!




