inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[pale jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-8872922284431337007

[gilded mason]

AND STAND UP TO THE PATRIARCHY

[small knot]

And jack is the Trump equivalent in xd

[mental mural]

He wants us to suffer

[gilded mason]

WE MUST TOPPLE THE MONARCHY

[pure junco]

He wants to send us to heaven

[gilded mason]

OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD

[mental mural]

@jckszzz #1385288185226985593

[valid zephyr]

BUFF INFERNO GUYS

WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT NON SPENDERS CAN NEVER CLEAR IT

JACK PLEASE BUFF INFERNO

[split halo]

Lilly a bit overrated

[mental mural]

Buff inferno
Make it more challenging and fun

[gilded mason]

Yeah inferno is too easy

[valid zephyr]

ONLY IF YOU HAVE 5/5 DUPES 5/5/5 SKILL UPS ON ALL UNITS

INFERNO IS TOO EASY

[gilded mason]

Look at havenz pfp

Says it all

[pure junco]

You must wake him up by becoming Heavenz + ZZ

[gilded mason]

Yall skill issue

Get good

[warped kestrel]

Get mental help brother

[pure junco]

You're nearly there Hyperlinker

[small knot]

Heavenzzz

Jackzzz

[split halo]

There pfp pretty

[small knot]

Is that their new faction

[undone vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/cake-gif-10958689

[small knot]

Zzz the maga equivalent of Etheria restart and jack leads them

[split halo]

What’s happening

[valid zephyr]

Man doesn't get sarcasm or English apparently

[pure junco]

The Zzz function

[mental mural]

Really tempted to watch the etheria videos with jack in it to see how he was prior to the release

[acoustic oasis]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388869968476504114/1389607729764503593/your_voice_matter.mp4?ex=6869d9cc&is=6868884c&hm=070bb8120f0ed93a3d78ab87fe3370c028ecc01d8e5e71cbe0199a31989fbe30&

[warped kestrel]

I love the Inferno Difficulty thread community. I think it'll pain me a little the day they actually nerf Inferno to an acceptable degree and this thread dies for good

[valid zephyr]

Also @pure junco I thought the strat WAS to pick fights so the threads get noticed

[pure junco]

Print(zzz)

.....

Did it work?

[mental mural]

WALLAH I CANT STOP LAUGHING

[gilded mason]

Hyped

So hyped for ETHERIA WORLD SERIES

[split halo]

Inferno will be a joke when everyone is max skill up

[mental mural]

@quaint kiln you really had not gonna lie 😂

Fooled all of us

[pure junco]

It is! We meet the criteria

We have pointless arguments.

[gilded mason]

Nah they noticed

[pure junco]

10k messages

[undone vortex]

I LOVE ETHERIA RESTART

[split halo]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AlYsG29Iiwk?si=AO-Xned5gnQH9lOd

[undone vortex]

ETHERIA RESTART WATERED M YCROPS

[gilded mason]

They just wanna let us attack each other

[split halo]

[gilded mason]

What happens when rats are trapped in a cage with little food?

[warped kestrel]

We will probably never be max skill ups, realistically. These games release characters faster than we can get skill up materials

[gilded mason]

They start to kill each other

[undone vortex]

u wouldnt kill me

cuz im sweetie

[gilded mason]

Oh of course not

[pure junco]

They eat each other 😎

[warped kestrel]

They use us for their amusement

[undone vortex]

[split halo]

That’s why you invest into things that’s universal

[undone vortex]

so who won between flamel and heavenz

[gilded mason]

I'll just leave you alive while i harvest you for parts

[undone vortex]

uh

[gilded mason]

Slurpslurp

Tasty

[warped kestrel]

Let Heavenzz have the win, he needs it far more

[split halo]

Either that or only skill up thing that’s needed

[undone vortex]

wow

[pure junco]

Rin, Gray, Cachi, Viper, Vice.....

[gilded mason]

No one won. Etheria won.

[undone vortex]

why u throwing shade at heaven zenless zero

[valid zephyr]

Nah Flamel clearly won

He can't understand basic english so he needs it more

[warped kestrel]

Thanks bro, very generous

[valid zephyr]

Np

[gilded mason]

ETHERIA, a NON living entity, caused 2 living and intelligent beings to argue. About a bunch of code

[valid zephyr]

All for you man

[split halo]

No valerian

[gilded mason]

ETHERIA WON.

[undone vortex]

heaven zenless zero zone if u unbrick my acc ill bow to theee

ETHERIA

[warped kestrel]

[gilded mason]

Also your pfp sucks

[pure junco]

What's a Valerian and is it a delicious flower?

[undone vortex]

i know doomed yaoi when i see it

[valid zephyr]

[gilded mason]

Murim login needs an anime

[undone vortex]

[gilded mason]

No idea wtf ur pfp is

Is that rimuru

Wtf is that

No its a furball

[undone vortex]

https://i.imgur.com/O6NaPdc.gif

[mental mural]

"Jack stop sleeping, the content creators are slandering us!!"
Jack the sleeper zzz: fine, just hack into their account and make the happy

[split halo]

It’s a herb

[gilded mason]

What on earth is that

[undone vortex]

it's moja

smh

uncultured ass hoes

[gilded mason]

Sounds like a type of weed

[undone vortex]

well

[gilded mason]

Wanna smoke some moja?

[pure junco]

They're almost onto you Wu ZZY

[undone vortex]

https://media.tenor.com/9jvkclnUWjUAAAAM/fukigenna-mononokean-mononokean.gif

oh shoot

i could be wuzenlesszeroy

[gilded mason]

Its from a manga

That looks very much like yaoi

[undone vortex]

uh

what

[pure junco]

Lmao

[gilded mason]

I googled

[undone vortex]

there's 0 sex

or romance

😭

[mental mural]

I just realized

[gilded mason]

I dont believe you

[undone vortex]

it's just a dude who can talk to yokai

ok

[mental mural]

What happened to our community manager?

[undone vortex]

THE MANGA is

different

i watched the anime

[gilded mason]

We have a community manager?

[warped kestrel]

[pure junco]

Yes to make you sleep deeply

[gilded mason]

Im jk the anime is good

[pure junco]

Valerian Tea is bitter

[valid zephyr]

I mean I'm pretty happy with the game

I got the LDs

[pure junco]

🤣

[undone vortex]

I LOVE ETHERIA RESTART

[gilded mason]

Im not happy or unhappy

Im just

Dead inside

[undone vortex]

im kinda in the middle somewhere

[split halo]

Not only does it put the game to sleep it also puts the players to sleep

[undone vortex]

im just egging people so i can get free stuff

[gilded mason]

I just like to stir shit for fun

[pure junco]

Is that how you reach perfection

[mental mural]

Didn't we have one before?

[gilded mason]

We did??

[split halo]

Any upcoming anime worth

[gilded mason]

Oh right we had c

The roster guy

[split halo]

Oof

[mental mural]

I dont know
Grinding has made me lose braincells
Can't remember

[pure junco]

And it can't revive the players leaving

[undone vortex]

@loud locust if u are still alive give me a sign

[pure junco]

I'm sure that guy is stressed

[undone vortex]

oh he is

[split halo]

There not leaving there be back one does not walk away from this

[pure junco]

😱 No!!!! Save me Aggravated Leader of Flames

[undone vortex]

exactly

your voice matters a lot to etheria

[gilded mason]

Everyone talks about pay to win

I support play to win

[split halo]

Are you a play to win

Or pay to win

[gilded mason]

I mean theyre not wrong

[undone vortex]

are the profits coming naturally

unfortunately yes cuz of these fat whales

[mental mural]

Still waiting for that good product

[coarse dirge]

profits come naturally when you have players with bad spending habits

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-meth-bryan-cranston-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-gif-5442136

[coarse dirge]

buying a fucking 11$ recoloured skin

🥀

this game is doomed from both its developers and players

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-man-just-keep-bringing-gif-27448431

[coarse dirge]

why should they put effort when whales are willing to spend their money on garbage

[mental mural]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-gif-27106488

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-trash-brock-gif-18043758

[loud locust]

there’s stuff going on behind the scenes dw

[undone vortex]

dam I thought kyuu killed u

[coarse dirge]

oh shit lock in

betting on you like the champion's call event

[tribal osprey]

What the. You’re playing Mario kart instead of grinding inferno 24/7???

[undone vortex]

Idt he plays no more

[gilded mason]

can u blame him

[undone vortex]

he hath forsaken etheria

[undone vortex]

yes

there's nothing wrong with etheria

there are no problems in etheria

[gilded mason]

etheria itself is the problem

[small knot]

Are we rating pfps now

[mental mural]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-alive-amazed-surprised-good-to-hear-from-you-welcome-back-gif-16482543

[mental mural]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-this-is-fine-meme-this-is-fine-dog-meme-squishiverse-gif-4697210749126103009

[mental mural]

Yes

[tribal sluice]

Man this rengo inferno 😠

Think imma pretend this sht don't exist

[small knot]

Where did you get yours from

National Geographic

[mental mural]

Google.com

Searched heart of a lion

https://tenor.com/view/lion-roar-gif-12977460511966526622

[undone vortex]

my favorite game in the whole wide world

is etheria restart

it makes me moist

[mental mural]

It makes you moist with how much you seethe and cry because of it

[open fable]

Kinda funny people who couldn't do inferno now could are complaining about it when earlier we already complained about it

Duality

[mental mural]

Still can't do it

[open fable]

Well even with the nerf you still need specific units sadly

What's sad is that slowly people are leaving the game.

[mental mural]

It's crazy how I predicted all of this during the beta yet the devs made the situation worse

Embarrassing

[open fable]

Well they only have 1 to 2 weeks left to fix their game I guess. Next patch should be adjustments to difficulty and economy hopium

If not well people's monthly pass are expiring

[mental mural]

Mostly passes are probably their main source of income

[coarse dirge]

i think this game is just doomed for the next months tbh, it'll be up to the devs if they wanna keep going or not after this

im probably just done

even if they finally fixed inferno difficulty, the game has dozens more probles afterwards

module drops, shell drops

etheria coins, training data, reconfig chips

shell passives

cost of upgrading modules

even if after they fix all those

there's gonna be a whole new layer of problems too

[errant dome]

i think the main problem is burning through stamina is too tedious

[coarse dirge]

with ethernet rally endgame being way too tedious and repetitive

[errant dome]

we're already seeing recycled events

RTA is so linear and boring

whoever has more speed rolls

[coarse dirge]

and then ember trek being tedious and repetitive too

events getting repetitive

this game just SO much problems it's insane

i think im done tbh

like neutrally

i wish for the best for the devs, i hope they can address everything moving forward in the next few months

or just rake in as much money and call it a day i guess

maybe they can make a big comeback in their half anniversary or smth

[undone vortex]

they gonna celebrate with a 2 week long champions bracket event

instead of 1 week

[coarse dirge]

such a shame

could've been a decent niche game

instead we got a shit niche game

[undone vortex]

💀

u should tag c and tell em

while he's mariokarting the house down boots

[pure junco]

I'm sure best boy c sees this

[errant dome]

im still gonna play because rates and difficulty are fixable over time

i still enjoy the core design of the game and the characters

[left snow]

nerf rengo, sharon, hoyan 1 more time, aurora healing mechanic

i think it would solve 90% of pve issues

[valid zephyr]

How are you lacking reconfig chips

Like everything yes

But reconfig chips?

[mental mural]

https://tenor.com/view/câncer-laughing-hahaha-gif-14756679

[valid zephyr]

I have 4000 reconfig chips

I don't even get enough training data to do rerolls on passive

It's just stacking up

[mental mural]

Bro said his piece and left

[valid zephyr]

I mean

If I can summarise

He just doesn't like the game

He's like those typical solve one problem

Then he complains about something else

Yes the game HAS problems

But there is no perfect game

Find me a game where there is no problem at all

I'll be waiting

[mental mural]

Dragon ball legends

[valid zephyr]

Bro that game is shit

Isn't that the game where a new version of a char comes out every week or something

[mental mural]

Ok

[valid zephyr]

Or was that another one

[mental mural]

Yup

[valid zephyr]

I have friends who are huge fans of DBZ and wouldn't touch that game with a 10km pole

[mental mural]

Skill issue

Massive skill issue

[valid zephyr]

If this game was pay to win that game is pay to play

Based on what I've heard at least

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

[mental mural]

It's the most friendly f2p gacha in existence

Literally

You can get to top 100 any season you want

If you put the time in ofc

The rates are great

[valid zephyr]

But how much do you need to pull the gacha?

[mental mural]

Much better than EtheLily Reroll at least

[mental mural]

It's alot better compared to etheria

I literally just summoned for fun cuz I had too many resources earlier

And got 2 of the best units in the game

[left snow]

there are 2 f2p players in top 10 currently

[left snow]

one of them doesnt have lily

[pure junco]

Just agree to disagree man. Heavenz loves this game

[mental mural]

EtheLily Reroll

[mental mural]

He will listen

[mental mural]

Don't care

[pure junco]

Lol

I'm sure he doesn't care though

[valid zephyr]

Hey I mean

If you have a point and its valid I'll take it

[mental mural]

Tell those guys to get good

[valid zephyr]

People just lose the argument and proceed with personal attacks or call names

[mental mural]

Dbl was literally trending 2 weeks ago due to how good it is

[mental mural]

We dont do that here

[pure junco]

XD I've seen people do that a lot though

[mental mural]

They're not part of the "we"

[valid zephyr]

Oh I think it's Dokkan Battle instead

The one they were talking about

[pure junco]

You're right. We are legion 🤣

[mental mural]

Dokkan battle?
Legends is extremely f2p
But the guys in my server tell me dokkan battle is the f2p god

And I trust them

[pure junco]

Dokkan has an issue where you need specific units

[mental mural]

"We" refers to the Etheria Restart Recusitate program

[valid zephyr]

Also something scam gacha with 2 of the banner units?

Kelfa or something

I'm just looking at the DBZ channel in my server

[pure junco]

Is this free healthcare?

[mental mural]

Wouldn't need
The guys i know dont have problems with it

[valid zephyr]

I mean that's the thing right people who are okay with it

According to people in this server

[mental mural]

No
It's suffering care
Where were suffer and get ignored

[valid zephyr]

Are either people who are lucky

Or people who are whale

It's not their problem so it's not a problem

[mental mural]

I wouldn't know
I dont play dokkan

[mental mural]

They're not suffering as much as others are so they dont care

But everyone suffers

[pure junco]

Like every community including this one 😤 "It's not a problem if I don't have it!"

[valid zephyr]

Yea indeed

[mental mural]

They're all f2p and they get shafted

[valid zephyr]

I can clear all inferno so it's not a problem

[left snow]

seems like we are getting economy buff this week

[gilded mason]

Namefull

[left snow]

dont spend currency on gear for now

[valid zephyr]

Meanwhile I'm only plat 2 but the hell only farmer is master in RTA

[mental mural]

Don't compare dokkan with etheria please
It's disrespectful

[left snow]

and save it after the buff

[pure junco]

🤣

[valid zephyr]

Who said that?

Nameless?

[left snow]

seanb apparently was allowed to openly say it

[mental mural]

Seanb said they'll improve the currency apparently

[valid zephyr]

Where?

[pure junco]

Lmao I love this community

[mental mural]

We stay coping

[pure junco]

And its wild sense of humor

[left snow]

it probably took him weeks of begging to get this change

[pure junco]

But will fix everything 🤡

[mental mural]

He shit talked enough that they had no choice but to fill him in

😂

[pure junco]

"I'll be your errand boy so please!"

[gilded mason]

what was he talkin about

what issue

[mental mural]

I dont even remember

But he was shitting on it during a live stream

Daily reminder to jackzzz that we are still here purely out of the pureness of our delusions

[mental mural]

💀

[graceful cradle]

I surprisingly agree with you with this dude

[left snow]

funny thing is

i dont really think anybody is target banning lily anymore

tsukiyomi ban protected

massiah ban

[graceful cradle]

Nope lily is easy to cut in high ranked arena

[left snow]

you can argue if holden was another dps like yeli lily ban would have come through

[graceful cradle]

Doki is a lot more threatening or fangus but lily also isn't as great as people think wither

[left snow]

lily is insane on cc teams

like that cooldown removal on 1 unit to keep cc chaning is huge

but not so much for cleave

[graceful cradle]

Well yeah because they are fast

[left snow]

yeah

[indigo oyster]

1 lily 1 cc on codex💀

[graceful cradle]

The issue is once you have a 350+ lily it gets harder to cleave with her

So you need a bridge

[left snow]

yep

[valid zephyr]

Man lost an argument then came here crying @graceful cradle huh

[graceful cradle]

Or fast dps and people will just cut you if your tuning is bad

[left snow]

liky is pretty meta in 2 of the meta teams thats still pretty good

[valid zephyr]

I asked for something simple

[left snow]

she is good on both rev abuse teams depending on matchup and cc teams

[valid zephyr]

And he couldn't answer

[left snow]

i just dont think she is a cleave opener

[graceful cradle]

I mean it's better to just run an extra rev opener that's just 20 less speed than her often though

Unless you think a cleaver can race you

[left snow]

vs tank teams that you dont have the burst for

removing cd on 1 rev

so you can finish them sometimes works

and increasing cooldown on their heals at the same time with lily

but you need good eff acc on lily

[graceful cradle]

That's fair but you can also argue theres other units you could utilize for that and the CD increase vs bruiser is unreliable

[left snow]

yeah it depends on draft

[graceful cradle]

Since bbath+coloss most bruisers will have some ER

[left snow]

like she is at least viable in rev abuse

[graceful cradle]

It depends on a lot of factors absolutely but yeah that's true

I think me personally I'm more often than not banning the Kazuyo or Freya than the Lily at least i can maybe cut the Lily push

[left snow]

kazuyo is pretty good too yeah

i run her on bruiser teams sometimes

[graceful cradle]

And if someone tunes the cleave poorly you can also cut there

She's such a solid unit it's a shame her main use has devolved to rev cheese

[left snow]

i think she is pretty good on bruiser teams with codex

vs cc teams

you run her on swiftrush bullwark

more like a flex last pick

not something you would run vs cleave since she would get 1 tapped without bb

cause cc teams ban linglou to remove the cleanse & immunity

she is pretty much open vs those

or you can run cachi who also works

as a flex

[trail phoenix]

uhmmm, hey guys! how much speed do i have to have to out speed terrormaton left hand?

[graceful cradle]

My doki tended to get banned so I'd at least get Ling but yeah

[graceful cradle]

265

[left snow]

doki haver

[trail phoenix]

oooh, okay, it the one that attacks right? it weird since my lily is outsped by it when its on 310+, or am i just tripping

[graceful cradle]

Yessir

[left snow]

can i please have a doki already

[graceful cradle]

Yeah left hand is the attack hand

[graceful cradle]

I can't stop pulling her lol I still want Tsuk Rahu and Lilith

[valid zephyr]

I'll trade a Doki for Tsukiyomi

[trail phoenix]

i mean he still atacks after my lily turn meter pushes my 256 dps

[valid zephyr]

I have 3

[graceful cradle]

Meanwhile I've 3 doki imprints

[trail phoenix]

being dumb in percentage pushing is really showing here hahahah

[valid zephyr]

I've been pulling perm banner still fishing for a Tsukiyomi but they gave me Hein after I built Holden

[graceful cradle]

Are you sure your dps is that fast it is a 30% push so if your dps is 256 it'd be at 90+ on the turn bar

[trail phoenix]

yeah, my dps is holden hahahha, its 120+136, should i report this?

[graceful cradle]

I don't think Terror has a mechanic that pushes after someone takes a turn but I mean the fight is so stupid now I wouldn't even be surprised

[trail phoenix]

oh wait, i check its 246

-_-

[graceful cradle]

You should still take the next turn with twin trick I'd need to see a video of it happening honestly

On paper your Holden should take the next turn but honestly just push him to 265 if you can it'll help with your headache

[trail phoenix]

then i'll go back to doki then, my modules uscks

the best speed i got is +10

[graceful cradle]

I feel you on that it took me a long while to get Eff cores with speed on them

[trail phoenix]

i have a lot of em, but with eff res, atk, def, and hp substats, like why do u skip speed??? and if it does have speed the best i get is 6 or 10

[graceful cradle]

yeah sometimes you just get destroyed by variance had so many dps cores but none for my units to actually strip when needed at first

[valid zephyr]

Honestly what's a good DPS to build for arena

[gilded mason]

Revelation kazuyo

[valid zephyr]

Red Kazuyo?

[gilded mason]

Nah the green one

Green one is busted

[graceful juniper]

freya into kazuyo into heinrich

[valid zephyr]

Why Hein?

[graceful juniper]

hein is multi hit

[left snow]

ai arena ?

[valid zephyr]

RTA

I need something in case my DPSes for cleave are already picked

[left snow]

massiah/yeli/rosa/hoyan/borgne from best to worst for traditional cleave imo

diting also works but you need to go hybrid

with cc & cleave

hoyan can be better than rosa in certain matchups

if you want some sort of rev abuse team

Freya/Celince/kazuyo/Heinrich are pretty good

[naive sluice]

Build a water rin if u can farm doki doki inferno

Its fine with Hell4 i guess, she's rly good

[valid zephyr]

Why inferno specifically

[valid zephyr]

So I already have Yeli Rosa

My currently DPS are Yeli Rosa Xiada

[left snow]

xiada is really bad

[valid zephyr]

Yea but she's built cause of Inferno Doki

I don't have a choice

[left snow]

do you like playing cc hybrid ?

[valid zephyr]

It's okay I guess

Let me send box

[left snow]

lilith is pretty good if you are fine with cc hybrid

[valid zephyr]

I don't have Lilith

[left snow]

she is also good in bruiser team if you want to play that later

rip

[valid zephyr]

Okay I don't have Lilith Tsukiyomi Borgne and Hellmid

[left snow]

cleave sounds rough without tsukiyomi

you are going to need some SR openers

like yang & rc 77

like what do you open with if they pick or ban your lily

[valid zephyr]

I open with Mio

I mean I'm not too high on RTA

[left snow]

mio is pretty good too yeah

[valid zephyr]

But knocking them down also works to bring your DPS up

[left snow]

do you have heinrich ?

[valid zephyr]

Yes

Other than the units I mentioned I have everyone

And 4 gold lettuce

[left snow]

blue rin on revelation with swiftrush + swiftraid + fury can work

heinrich can work on revelation without any lattices but he is more of a cc dps

[valid zephyr]

Isn't his gear requirement pretty high

[left snow]

it is

[valid zephyr]

Unless you build him pure momentum DPS

[left snow]

yep his gear req is through the roof

hoyan is technically really good but she needs lattice

[valid zephyr]

And revelation doesn't drop swiftrush

[left snow]

oh right i forgot

you would need to drop fury

[naive sluice]

Water rin on samuraix, not revelation

[valid zephyr]

Yea his gear requirement is insane

[naive sluice]

and she's good enough to carry

[valid zephyr]

Wtf is samuraiX

[left snow]

white fang

[naive sluice]

White fang

[valid zephyr]

This I guess?

[left snow]

yep

harvest is pretty good for it

[naive sluice]

Harvest he's

ok

[valid zephyr]

There's no DPS that's viable for both PVE and PVP right

[naive sluice]

U can farm niconana with water rin

[valid zephyr]

Nah I can farm Inferno everything

I'm just looking for something that I can use for like the shitty event that needs three teams

It's abit greedy yes but

If I do want to build Hoyan, what kind of gear would I use? @left snow

[left snow]

yeli, massiah, rosa

[valid zephyr]

Yea I already have Yeli Rosa

I'm just running into them being picked so I need a third option

Cause I need to secure 2 CC/support before DPSes

[left snow]

you can try first picking dps

and have yang & rc-77 raised

in case they pick lily & mio

[left snow]

white fang

dps set

[valid zephyr]

So I wanted to build a third to secure the DPS slot

[left snow]

keeneye fury

[valid zephyr]

Not harvest?

[left snow]

harvest works too

actually its better

she is good into anything that isn't triple dps

[valid zephyr]

Okay one last thing, PVP Holden?

[left snow]

amazing on bruiser team

can work in cleave

decent in cc teams as well

[valid zephyr]

some samples of bruiser team?

[left snow]

Bruiser team can literally be anything as long as you run bloodbath + bramble/bloodbath + bullwark

but generally

Lingluo for cleanse
Sania/viper for anchor
Tiamat/Lilith/Holden/Rahu for dps options
Kazuyo/Obol/Celince for cc options

holden wants 5/1/1, just ignore rahu and don't use him tbh, lilith wants 1/1/5, lingluo wants 5/1/1 tiamat is good at 1/1/1

you can also run this team with 0 lattice on any SSR and it would work

[fading atlas]

Have the devs said anything new yet?

Only 60k messages in the inferno difficulty thread, why would they? xD

[valid zephyr]

What stat would you put on Holden right side, crit def def?

[undone vortex]

they said buy the yeli bundle before they go away

[left snow]

if you can't get more than 3k def then def def def

if you can get more than 3k def, ideally 3.5k def with crit def def then its much better

[fading atlas]

I like makoto with crit crit def

Shes fun

[left snow]

you are going to need to farm a lot of aurora for this team tho

like you need so many bloodbathes

[fading atlas]

Bulwark too

[valid zephyr]

I'm already farming Aurora

Because of momentum

[left snow]

you dont need a lot of bullwark

[valid zephyr]

I'm tired of Doki

I've been farming it for 5 days and I got like 3 spd roll pieces

[fading atlas]

Idk the only reason i could do literally anything in rta was bulwark lol

But bloodbath also seems really good

[left snow]

bullwark on lingluo, obol, kazuyo, celince

and you only generally pick 1 of them, max 2

[fading atlas]

Strive bloodbath seems like a cook and a half for turn 2

[left snow]

put everybody that isn't one of the 4 i mentioned above bramble + bloodbath

[fading atlas]

How much res do u need tho cus most ppl prob running 200 eff debuffers

[left snow]

res is a bad stat avoid at all cost lol

[valid zephyr]

Res is bad cause if they have enough eff acc your res is useless stat

[fading atlas]

Lol i thought so. So u only use bloodbath for dmg redux then i assume

[graceful cradle]

this isn't completely true

but most units yea completely avoid

[left snow]

im not sure how the formula goes

[valid zephyr]

Like as a substat roll I think it's okay

[left snow]

but if you have 200 eff acc and you try to stun 200 eff res dude

[valid zephyr]

But on mainstat

[left snow]

she will sleep more often than not

[graceful cradle]

2x to eff to a min of half with ER

[left snow]

which is kinda dumb

[crimson scroll]

u can reach lot of res without having any module of main stat res, just go licorn colossguardbloodbath + passiv shell and ur good

[valid zephyr]

If you really want to counter a max eff acc char, you need like what 150? 200% eff res?

Which is like max right side no?

[left snow]

just run bullwark instead

[valid zephyr]

At that point why not just bulwark tho

[left snow]

if you want to counter cc

[valid zephyr]

That's my reasoning for eff res anyways

[graceful cradle]

so if you have 150 acc and a 30% chance to land you have a max 60% chance to hit and an extra 120% to point for point negate ER

[left snow]

yes but multi hit thing is dumb

[crimson scroll]

its basically rock paper scisor if the play staller or cleave with a cleanser or not so

[graceful cradle]

but if they can stack 250+ ER then you might have only a 15% chance each time

[left snow]

like kazuyo has 45% chance and its triple that

[fading atlas]

Im prepping my bunghole for control meta in e7 so im stacking er on several units lol

[left snow]

if you run into kazuyo with with 250 eff acc, you would need more than 250 ER no ?

[valid zephyr]

But can you stack 250 ERes without ending up being just raw smacked to death tho, and that's only viable on non debuffers

[graceful cradle]

and since a lot of the Alicorn builds for cleansers will take Bbath+Coloss if they can hit 250+ after cleansing you won't land shit

that's just a rough example

ER Doki is very real

[valid zephyr]

Interesting

[left snow]

you would get cleaved with ER main stat

even on bb

[graceful cradle]

and you can build her just fast enough to take a turn right after their openers

[left snow]

well it might be good later on as flex pick, i am not a believer of that stat currently tho

[graceful cradle]

You can hit 35k+ still with 1 hp 2x er right side

[left snow]

thats cleaving range

[graceful cradle]

If Viper or Tia is in draft you aren't even close to dying

cant ban every form of mit

[left snow]

with alicorn + 35k hp + bloodbath + viper you can get cleaved

[graceful cradle]

Tia is 25% damage share

[left snow]

she is not taking a turn tho

[graceful cradle]

Viper is what 30% crit dmg mit?

[left snow]

yep

you get cleaved still

35k hp not enough

if you ban massiah, your opponent doesnt have yeli or hoyan

it can work yeah

but those 3 dps would cleave you still

[graceful cradle]

You'd need multiple revs and why draft Doki there anyway there's no cc

[left snow]

hoyan is very unpopular

[left snow]

1 hoyan can cleave that

i am doing actually

[graceful cradle]

makes zero sense

[left snow]

a sec

let me send a screenshot

i dealt around 50k to tiamatand she ambered

you have to ban either tia or viper

you can't really expect to have both

[graceful cradle]

obv

but 3rd guarantees you get one

usually Tia

[left snow]

yeah thats usually how it goes

[valid zephyr]

Also what kind of builds does Tia run

[left snow]

bb + bramble on amber

hp hp crit

[valid zephyr]

Still Bloodbath Bramble?

[left snow]

yep

[graceful cradle]

Ling is the weaker of the two cleanses between her and Doki but her plus is she obviously heals and can go first and put up immunity

[valid zephyr]

This is my only bloodbath bramble

[graceful cradle]

but she kinda doesnt do anything if you're just slamming a ton of damage in your draft

[left snow]

viper, sania, tiamat, holden all want bramble bb

[valid zephyr]

[left snow]

thats pretty good

for tia

[graceful cradle]

holden doesnt need bramble

better on strive

[left snow]

triggers are seperate

if you fail his s1 counter

bramble also checks

[graceful cradle]

yeah but he's already going to be like 60% counter

better to have him cut so he can S2

[left snow]

i hate strive on this team

[graceful cradle]

this guy 100% dies cuz after mio he just sits there hoping to live your cleave

[left snow]

his mio didnt take a turn so

[graceful cradle]

lmao

[valid zephyr]

I guess this will do

[left snow]

your def is too low

is your shell not upgraded ?

[valid zephyr]

Gear isn't upgraded

Shell isn't either

[graceful cradle]

but yeah i'm not a fan of bramble holden i feel like something needs to be able to actually cut and take a turn

[valid zephyr]

I'm just slotting in gear first to see what I need to farm

[left snow]

you need to have at least 1 anchor unit built hto

[valid zephyr]

Viper is

[left snow]

you have to ban protect him if he is your only 1

if he gets banned you are gonna get cleaved

[valid zephyr]

Yea

[left snow]

Sania & viper both should be built so you have 2

[valid zephyr]

Sania is on the way but I lack purple lettuce

I used them on Chiaki for spare openers for cleave

[left snow]

she is good with 5/1/5

[valid zephyr]

My Viper is 5/5/5

[left snow]

pretty good

[graceful cradle]

Val still too also

[valid zephyr]

Cause I got sick of dying in Aurora

[graceful cradle]

if you ever catch cleavers in a 2 dps draft she becomes a must ban

[left snow]

you are going to need to raise a lot of lighthouses

like a lot

i have like 6 raised

[valid zephyr]

I have Ambers

[left snow]

amber on dps, lighthouse on support

[valid zephyr]

Gonna use that for now

[left snow]

you dont want amber on lingluo, sania etc

[graceful cradle]

also fwiw i prefer lh holden

[left snow]

i mean can technically run it

[graceful cradle]

over amber holden

[left snow]

same

but both work

[graceful cradle]

yup

diff pros and cons

dropping to focus on building more answers was the best thing i did

tired of sweating for 20 wins every week

[left snow]

but you should be fine until like masters with the core 5 built

tia-holden-lingluo-viper-sania

with a few flex should get you to master unless you really troll

[valid zephyr]

How much speed does Lingluo need?

[graceful cradle]

depends on how you plan to use her

[left snow]

for bb units i would say 200+ viable, but try to get your sania and lingluo on 250+

[graceful cradle]

330+ ling is a real thing some people use

[valid zephyr]

Yea I've met one

He outspeed my Lily

[graceful cradle]

to immune all CC her living doesn't matter as much in that usage

[left snow]

[valid zephyr]

Doesn't matter the rest of the team died anyways to my nuke

He thought Mio was the problem

My Yeli just nuke the rest of his units to kingdom come

[left snow]

you should run bullwark on lingluo btw

[graceful cradle]

i do have a whitefang ling build

but typically i don't use it

[valid zephyr]

But

[crystal chasm]

ngl you just want bro on pure defense

[valid zephyr]

Lighthouse can't bulwark

[crystal chasm]

better to run him brambale unbreakable

[valid zephyr]

So Jackal instead for Lingluo?

[graceful cradle]

you only really need 2.5k-3k depending on lattice investment, any more and your HP% or actual usage is suffering

which is why strive is so good on him

since it allows you to focus more on his bruiser stats and less on him actually taking turns

[valid zephyr]

Cause neither Lighthouse nor Amber drops bulwark

[left snow]

he would get 1 tapped like that

[left snow]

you can run something like this too

cc hybrid

wait you dont have lilith

[valid zephyr]

I have this

[graceful cradle]

i wish i had lilith man

[glass ruin]

hmm do u see more kazuyos or obols

[left snow]

thats pretty good

but if im running cc contest on bruiser team

i am running swiftrush + swiftsmite

with bullwark

dont pick those vs cleave

they will die

but vs cc they win

but i can see that working vs cleave

if you get hp hp eff acc

[weak lichen]

Aurora inferno needs nerf on rage mechanic

that thing should not even exist wym he will ult twice out of nowhere when it's not even his turn

[left snow]

hm actually now that i think about it

you can give that to kazuyo

with hp hp eff acc

or triple hp if you get good enough eff acc substats

and it would work

[indigo oyster]

i support this

[crystal chasm]

…

[full delta]

100 is the level cap

[indigo oyster]

-100 stamina

[glass ruin]

rip

omg my champions call teams lost in finals 3 times in a row

[mental mural]

Elaborate

[ripe kraken]

Zzz

[mental mural]

Still sleeping?

[mental mural]

Did you improve it,

?

😂

[solid orchid]

what happened here again

whenever i check this thread its either that 1 guy giving pvp advice or drama

[warped kestrel]

Until we reach perfection.

[gilded mason]

Thats a bike

Its no longer a sprint its a bike race

[warped kestrel]

That's about the speed and ease you go at if you have Lily+SSania

[quasi nymph]

Most of the stages I can't clear are Lily/SSania/Kloss check

I'd pick Kloss if not for the fact I picked Tsukiyomi to replace Lily so it's a snowball problem

Except Tsukiyomi is useless against Terrormaton and Sharon with their 200% odd damage

[mental mural]

Preaching

[tardy vine]

can heinrich be dedicated dps?

[outer falcon]

You want to build me Mr. Z 123... You know you have me probably max duped... You want to put lattices into me Mr. Z 123...

[quasi nymph]

dorothy does not bring lily's speed buff while kazuyo does not bring lily's turn advance. they are both flawed and not a good replacement

tsukiyomi is both but she is odd

[outer falcon]

No. He'd probably be cool on revelation if his s3 didn't max at 4 cooldown but no

They're both the best replacements you have available if you build around what you're missing though

Or green Chiaki I guess

[warped dune]

skill issue xD

[left snow]

in pvp he can be

in pve no

unless you do a turtle team somehow

[mental mural]

Silence
Its a jack issue

[warped dune]

xD

I am very curious on what they have to say about the economy

Seanb said they will adress it pretty soon apparently

[left snow]

yeah he did

now the "adress" part can be subjective

will they just buff coin and shell income by 20% and call it a day

or a total overhaul

like reducing 30k cost of reconfigure, reducing module upgrade cost etc

thats a mystery still

[outer falcon]

They need to do something so that testing gear at +6 and selling costs nothing

[mental mural]

Hes on fraudwatch

[warped dune]

Let me gather my thoughts on what they have to change economy wise as somebody who has been playing the game every day since release

[left snow]

i think reducing reconfig cost from 30k to 10k, and halving the module upgrade cost would be good enough

🤷‍♂️

[mental mural]

Hopefully they aren't reading your comments

[left snow]

what more do you want

[glass ruin]

obol is so fun to use in pvp

wtf

[left snow]

he is so good

join the cult

[glass ruin]

im mainly picking him because kazuyo is so popular

so no contest for obol

maybe that changes in higher ranks

[left snow]

both are about as common i would say

from my experience at least

[glass ruin]

kazuyo doesnt have chance to miss i guess?

multi tick

time to build a green sania and go on a tank journey

[left snow]

more people embracing the path of bloodbath

[glass ruin]

heres the problem

i cannot farm inferno rengo

[left snow]

hell is good enough

for the lighthouse

its ok

or you can farm aurora for bloodbath and bullwark until rengo gets nerfed

hopefully on monday

[glass ruin]

yeah currently doing that

[left snow]

you are going to need so many bb gear

like its nuts

[glass ruin]

i do wish i can 3 star any of them

so i dont need to do 5 by 5

[left snow]

i think if you start by the core 4 units

you can be pvp ready early

[mental mural]

You know exactly what I want and what is needed

[valid zephyr]

Now Doki I understand

Aurora I understand

Why can't you at least 2* Terror

[mental mural]

💀

What do you understand?

[pure junco]

Terro is just a teddy bear

[left snow]

wasnt expecting to read something like that

[valid zephyr]

Terror is pretty doable for 2* now

[warped kestrel]

I've been a seanb watcher for many years now (from SW) - I think he's very fair and honest when talking about game issues, he has strongly criticized the companies even when he's on their payroll and working as one of their official "e-sports" commentators.

[pure junco]

Reading esports commentator wasn't on my bingo card today

[warped dune]

Coin:
-Reduce total cost by 18%
-Change the increase cost rate to 1-9 super cheap and 9-15 super expensive
-remove 2 symbol drops in inferno
-remove 2 substat lines drops in inferno
-increase the sell amount from 45% to 60%

Shells:
-Reduce Total cost by 25%
-Reduce passive rolling cost by 33%
-Remove Blue rolls from 3 matrixes Shells
-Remove Epic Shell dropps in Inferno
-Double the drop rate for 3 matrixes Shells
-Implement a pitty system for passive rolls, so you can work towards your desired stat

Probably something like that i guess

[pale jetty]

Here’s where my money went cause her story was amazing

[pure junco]

That's reasonable

[glass ruin]

tbf i just stopped farming terror

it was a min clear kind of team

i got the 2 furyedge i wanted and stopped

[mental mural]

He's been the best ethelily reroll content creator so far

[outer falcon]

If only arti had bulwark

[open fable]

drop rengo hp by 20% reee

or at least remove that fking atk down

[indigo oyster]

how many resist does inferno hoyan have because this thing just resist 7 time in a row

[ripe kraken]

The 10 percent can always proc

Continuously

U just proc 'ed it everytime

[indigo oyster]

can i also get a lottery number also

[pure junco]

You must spend 50mil Etheria Coins first, Hyperlinker

[shrewd skiff]

Inferno Sharon needs a nerf. You are fighting against time, and if you don't have godly attacker gear you have no hope of winning. Cachi and artison aren't even a consistent solution as her minions can strip. and the speed buff on a dot boss that ults every turn is unsustainable.
I literally have an easier time with regokutsu and hoyan. If they can double nerf nico nana they can nerf sharon.

Solution:

• atk and speed down 10%
• hp down 20%

[outer falcon]

make it a new post for more impact

not that they care either way about posts vs player metrics

[formal snow]

Didn't they announce a nerf for her? Or am I tripping

[pearl knot]

needs an even bigger nerf honestly. her being immune to debuffs is so restrictive its crazy

[shrewd skiff]

pls upvote my post if u agree

[tribal osprey]

You’re thinking of ember trek Sharon

[mental mural]

How do you know which server someone is on?

[pure junco]

Ask them

[solid orchid]

wild idea

where did that come from

[outer falcon]

Watching this tournament rn. Lingluo extending law of silence void state was something I didn't expect

Fun tech

[solid orchid]

can you share the link ?

[outer falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/live/QhMG_K1TWtA

First-pick Kraken is legendary

Good luck Serra

[left snow]

that 1st game draft was absolute dogshit from player 1

[outer falcon]

what, the kraken yeli kloss one?

[left snow]

yeah

literally 0 win conditions lmao

[outer falcon]

A+ style though

[left snow]

doki hard counters that team

[outer falcon]

She's also S-rank for style

[left snow]

doki pre ban

[graceful juniper]

Yea he though people dont have immunity set lol....but fr if the enemy dont have immunity set then its a wipe

[left snow]

at least the guy learned

[outer falcon]

She really likes her cc

[graceful juniper]

Thats low elo stomper draft lol....i used to use kraken,now im using obol because i raise his s1 for more spd

[outer falcon]

The Krak s2 can go crazy but you have to be able to get someone to half HP and make a debuff stick to use it

[graceful juniper]

Yea....the draft just not really good vs high lvl

[left snow]

bruh what is this gameplay

[outer falcon]

I have no idea what's going on anymore I've got it in a corner of a screen while I play warframe

what road does she have rn actually

[left snow]

they are just getting bullied lol

[undone vortex]

riveting gameplay

I'm always on my toes anytime I see revelation

[left snow]

was this some sort of high elo vs low elo tournament ?

i only watched like 3 games

and in all 3 of those games 1 of the players knew what they were doing and the other side felt like they never played rta

rta vs ai arena players maybe ?

[undone vortex]

which groups were the ais

amber freyer

[left snow]

team cc definitely felt like paid actors

[undone vortex]

drag them

[left snow]

yeah that amber freya was sad to watch

also the last game

[undone vortex]

😭

[left snow]

the guy got outsped with enemy comp

then drafted the exact same thing vs the exact same thing

like if you are in cleave vs cleave matchup

and you got outsped in the first game

why draft the exact same thing

same drafts, same speed

[undone vortex]

u shud tag em and ask

maybeee they got kloss to hack the opponent

irl

[left snow]

definitely

i refuse to believe level 100 guys only had 1 team built

[undone vortex]

this is our reality

but wow I must say

idk what was faster the revelation sweeps or the boredom kicking in

but if I say anything bad I'm gonna get whacked

[left snow]

nah that was definitely boring

i would rather get stomped by bread and yengwo in rta and lose points

than watching that

[undone vortex]

how manyrevelations do u have and how many revelations can u steal

tho the turn 2 comps are def

interesting cuz it's like

different lol

fpsshotty I like yer work wherever u are

[left snow]

i have both turn 2 comp and cleave

yengwo has rev abuse and turn 2 as well

[undone vortex]

I don't who that is but I'm surely they are lovely gal

[outer falcon]

seishizo knows his shit but idk anything about the other 2

[undone vortex]

only thing ik about serra is she is a tectone mod

that's about it lol

[outer falcon]

serra has been in here a bunch

[undone vortex]

on the bright side

she won against mr.amberfreya

[outer falcon]

don't hold the tectone thing against her

[undone vortex]

well at least whoever wins got some

quick n ez money

because that was sure quick

[left snow]

the last 2 games were omegastomps

[undone vortex]

if u were their coach what would u say to them

[left snow]

have actual openers next time

cleave player vs cleave player

one side has 3 openers

other side has 1

tsukiyo, dok,, mio vs lily

what is crazy the guy tried the same thing again next time

they should either allow gear swap

[undone vortex]

😭

[left snow]

so these players with only 1 openers don't troll themselves

yeah idk even know what else would be the alternative

the guy should have tried 1st picking dps and ban procting his opener

if he really has no opener options

but he did the same thing back to back and got stomped back to back

[undone vortex]

rate them out of 10

[left snow]

well neverlucky kicked my ass before

so i will give him 10/10

last guy with lily gets diamond out of mythic from me

[undone vortex]

💀

[left snow]

funny thing is i dont even think he wins the game if the guy let lily through

his mass and yeli were slow

they wouldn't have been pushed above the openers of the other guy

[pure junco]

Everyone is sleeping on Sybil

[pastel inlet]

whos that

[glass ruin]

she won champions call today

[left snow]

Damn really