#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

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tight laurel
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Lmao

graceful cradle
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Exactly

tight laurel
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It's such a self report tbh

main elm
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self dox

graceful cradle
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Everything he's ever said is counter to literally anyone who isn't chronically online 24/7 365 days a year

pure junco
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But this game IS my job 🄹

tight laurel
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That unemployment grindset

main elm
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I felt like I was playing for so long and it's only floor no.13 on normal .....

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fakin end me

graceful cradle
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He was trying to say he doesnt care what whales think and if we leave

orchid needle
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wait nvm i'll tank the losses if i keep getting these kinds of drops

graceful cradle
main elm
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I got the best drop

orchid needle
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yeah nvm carry on

normal lichen
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is there an auto with a close to 100% wr on inferno rengo without having a god tier yeli?

graceful cradle
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I was like...

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Ain't no way you're this dumb

brave heath
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i dont think even with a god tier yeli you're getting close to 100%

left snow
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There is 100% wr yeli team

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Sample size of 200+ no losses

main elm
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yes, I can vouche for that, It's more like speed tuning than having top Yeli

normal lichen
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i heard something out there exists that targets one of the ads first then the boss and it's 100%

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but they didnt go into detail lol

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it's like a sustain comp using bloodbath

main elm
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Rengo is the only PvE instance where u need to enter it with PvP sets

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Bulwark and shit

normal lichen
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the fact they nerfed niconana twice and not rengo lol

main elm
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idk what was the 2nd nerf for tbh

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It's was already the fastest inferno to clear

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without SSania

glass ruin
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this comp looks kinda sick

main elm
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even

normal lichen
glass ruin
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155

normal lichen
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ah...

glass ruin
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diting comps are not consistent right

normal lichen
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definitely not

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i mean a good diting can burst it down pretty quick but it can definitely go wrong

glass ruin
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man ill just farm aurora until they nerf him

inland warren
glass ruin
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rengo

inland warren
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Wow lol what are speed values?

glass ruin
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like 180 speed valerian/xiada

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cachi around 300 i think

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mia is 260?

inland warren
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Alright. Thanks!

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Fuck 300 speed is a lot 🄲

glass ruin
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im not sure how consistent it is btw

inland warren
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I have all those characters decently invested. So I was wondering

glass ruin
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thats the cachi

inland warren
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Maybe I just need to farm more doki for more speed pcs before

inland warren
tribal osprey
sudden wedge
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it’s 10% chance to resist per debuff

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and if you need all 3 for a successful run, there’s a 27% chance to fail

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that’s why I don’t think kloss is good for consistent farming

jade edge
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Fights so easy now lol

tribal osprey
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The dark tower gave me ptsd

undone vortex
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I don't wanna sta anything about astarte cuz they gonna buff her

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if I say what I think

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they gonna make the disorder minion stun and buff steal at the same time or some crazy shit like that

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swipe the immunity away

warped kestrel
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This is in my opinion the funniest of all the quotes in that video. Like, no matter how you look at it, that quote is not a good thing. Maybe they just used incorrect phrasing.

mental mural
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Nah that's 110% what they meant

warped kestrel
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I don't know if they made that video as funny as they did on purpose or not, but I hope the memes never force them to take it down. It's a gem.

tribal osprey
warped kestrel
tribal osprey
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Wish they had ā€œwhy do you listen to players?ā€ ā€œCause every voice matters in Etheriaā€

pure junco
tribal osprey
gilded mason
mental mural
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You heard them guys

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Try harder

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Grind until you reach the purest form of pureness

undone vortex
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devs when ppl ask for them when they'll start communicating when there isn't a scandal

undone vortex
gilded mason
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yall arent pure and perfect enough to play ETHERIA

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is this shit even usable

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fuck etheria

jade edge
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This is gross for pve yeli.

gilded mason
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is battlewill good on yeli?

jade edge
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Yes….

gilded mason
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i thought people said it was crap

jade edge
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Why are you complaining before you have any clue

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Jfc lol

pure junco
jade edge
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Momentum is the highest dps 12 set in the game besides swiftrush on rin

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Like this dude is the epitome of cry baby mobile game players šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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ā€œI can’t formulate my own opinion and just say everything is trash UNLESS it’s the one set that a YouTuber put on their character!ā€

thick arch
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bro lying his ass off. You can't even unlock the level 35 requirement on day 3 max refreshing

gilded mason
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YEAH SHOW ME A YOUTUBE VID

pure junco
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Lmao

gilded mason
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i only have pureness

pure junco
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It's the only way

jade edge
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Can tell

gilded mason
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You're not pure elon

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Being realistic in a gacha game is a taboo

pure junco
thick arch
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they are probably a large portion of kids that feed the fire

tribal osprey
gilded mason
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now i can build it with a peace of mind

tribal osprey
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Battle will is really good on yeli though ngl

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People just hate on it cause it doesn’t trigger her s2 again

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But damage wise it’s pretty much the same

gilded mason
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so i didnt want to waste resources on a battlewill set

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coin is hard to come by

tribal osprey
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Yep and when it procs then it triggers another rev

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Hopefullydv_frogKekOwO

tribal osprey
undone vortex
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I LOVE ETHERIA RESTART

gilded mason
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god bless

thick arch
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I reached the purest of purness perfection

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happiness

undone vortex
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playing etheria restart

thick arch
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from deleting my account

undone vortex
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we know u are dying inside

thick arch
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7 days wait was long

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but it's finally over

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s7 when?

gilded mason
mental mural
thick arch
gilded mason
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oh i thought it was e7 sequel

thick arch
gilded mason
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Supreme Seven

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S7

mental mural
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šŸ’€

gilded mason
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i wont quit etheria

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I will outlive it

thick arch
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e7 had a sequel

gilded mason
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lol

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or CZN

thick arch
gilded mason
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I played that

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it felt like e7 from wish

thick arch
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2.5d buggy ass e7

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So many bugs you couldn't even farm some stage the first month

gilded mason
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yeah

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lmao

thick arch
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and people complain about inferno in same time smh

gilded mason
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yeah i dont know why etherians complaining

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inferno so ez

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needs buff

thick arch
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devs just need to grind till it's done

mental mural
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Outerplane>e7

gilded mason
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Aeroplane>outerplane

mental mural
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Aeroplane>outerplane>e7

thick arch
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which aeroplane you choose in the matrix

gilded mason
thick arch
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I use a B-177

pure junco
gilded mason
undone vortex
tight laurel
warped kestrel
thick arch
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oh no. When is the betrayal arc

gilded mason
tribal osprey
undone vortex
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would u even get enough coins to do h4 consistently in 3 days lol

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even using all the stamina pots thats not enough coins

thick arch
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some people got to inferno a month before launch

tribal osprey
open fable
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Had 10m coins blew everything and got nothing FrogCoolCry

undone vortex
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I always get nothing

thick arch
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I should've never trusted that grey can carry vid

thick arch
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and who's her name?

tribal osprey
thick arch
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the tutorial char we're forced to level

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red woman

gilded mason
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Gray can carry

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in beta

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LOL

thick arch
pure junco
open fable
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Idn if that dint mean 4 days of full refreshing on arena and modules

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Only 10m

woeful frigate
tight laurel
undone vortex
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I'm begging for the community to bully Jack for a reset event

gilded mason
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Omg its a gacha veteran

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11 YEARS? OMG

gilded mason
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Father of all turn based gacha omg

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SUMMONERS WAR PLAYER

woeful frigate
tight laurel
woeful frigate
gilded mason
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He is the one described in the XD Legends

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The one who has achieved pureness

pure junco
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Could it be? We were wrong about this?? Day 1 you can reach level 100

undone vortex
gilded mason
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HE WHO HAS REACHED PERFECTION

undone vortex
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I'll tell u what to say

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through an earpiece

pure junco
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The ultimate life form

gilded mason
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He has grinded the iron pestle into a needle

warped kestrel
mental mural
woeful frigate
pure junco
warped kestrel
gilded mason
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ALL HAIL THE GACHA GOD

woeful frigate
pure junco
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Woah. He might be the hero of light

gilded mason
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Anything is better than SW at launch lmao

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if SW launched now, no one would play it

warped kestrel
undone vortex
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I LOVE ETHERIA RESTART

mental mural
woeful frigate
mental mural
tight laurel
pure junco
# mental mural

Blasphemy! Blaze, how could you go against the one above all?

woeful frigate
gilded mason
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Please accept me as your disciple, o great and mighty gacha god

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I wish to learn the ways of the grind

mental mural
gilded mason
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I wish to achieve pureness

undone vortex
undone vortex
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like my dad

woeful frigate
# gilded mason

I still fail to see how I said etheria is like summoners at launch? Yall just reaching lol

unreal glacier
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They got a shit ton of stuff to fix lmao.

tribal osprey
thick arch
# mental mural

you can't get every character to 6* if you don't pull them all

gilded mason
woeful frigate
gilded mason
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Please forgive this humble one

undone vortex
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both of us

woeful frigate
undone vortex
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šŸ‘‰ šŸ‘ˆ

tight laurel
fading atlas
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A few people have already said Etheria is worse on launch than both E7 and SW. Its rose tinted glasses to say otherwise

gilded mason
pure junco
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His Majesty knows better. We should be ashamed of ourselves guys

mint swift
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the more i read about how fucked this game is, the more i think it's funny dv_frogKekOwO

thick arch
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I didn't play beta but just seeing the news and different communication going on. it's very hard for me to take this current situation seriously

tight laurel
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Unless you're one of those people who got into a PVP game for the PVE

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Lots of them around

tight laurel
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For some weird ass reason

gilded mason
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I dont have to act like an adult just because im at the age of one

fading atlas
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I uninstalled until they fix it. Im not even going to check in until patchnotes drop

tight laurel
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I cannot wait for people to stop posting those video screenshots

gilded mason
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Why

tight laurel
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Meme has been so far run into the ground

gilded mason
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its hilarious

fading atlas
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Its funny

tribal osprey
gilded mason
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The translation from chinese make it funny

undone vortex
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I hope XD drops another ai banger

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on their website

tight laurel
fading atlas
thick arch
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they don't know what PvP is

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only player vs leaderboard

undone vortex
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this is the first game with 15 unions that are #1 wym

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ER trailblazing

fading atlas
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This game is so fked. Its the best advertisement for E7 anni ive seen

mint swift
fading atlas
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Hey, you like actually playing your game with the characters you like? Go play E7!

tight laurel
thick arch
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poor pve players. They don't know how good it feels to outspeed someone and trash them with rev on a support

mint swift
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This is literally the only gacha I've been playing ever since I took a break from gacha for a year

tight laurel
fading atlas
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Poor pve players dont know what its like eating enemy cds for 6 turns and still winning

undone vortex
pure junco
undone vortex
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pick a struggle

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one day you'll reach perfection

thick arch
mental mural
undone vortex
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I LOVE ETHERIA RESTART

fading atlas
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I love etheria too, too bad i cant fking play it

pure junco
undone vortex
mint swift
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And miss out on all the drama? I'd rather take my chances dv_frogKekOwO

undone vortex
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we should all bet on what

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next week's scandal will be

fading atlas
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Etheria isnt a game you play, its a job you work 🤣

pure junco
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dv_frogKekOwO Lowering Niconana's difficulty again

undone vortex
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I hope they nerf her again

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cuz she's ugly

mental mural
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What you mean she's ugly?
She's the prettiest thing in the game!!

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Buff her more!

mint swift
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nerfing niconana > wasting coins just to get the right stat FunnyHaha

undone vortex
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she's ugly

thick arch
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skill issue you didn't use 500k stam on exp stage

undone vortex
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u know what's a skill issue

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not having Lily, kloss or sania

thick arch
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being below top 10 in RTA

undone vortex
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these bozo f2p

undone vortex
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šŸ™

thick arch
undone vortex
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oh yea

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yer right

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ppl be like I can clear inferno rengo

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if u have klossussy

fading atlas
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I think its silly the entry level requirement for inferno being 4 speed rolls on every piece of gear

thick arch
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I want to clear inferno with some cuties

fading atlas
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Not uggos

thick arch
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not some lolicon team

fading atlas
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You dont like Cachi Lily Mio Mia Rilmocha team? What are you? A pervert? /s

undone vortex
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Dorothy/Dorothy/ril/mia/mio team

mint swift
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pov : you're the ntr uggo

undone vortex
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they released yeli cuz they realized the important DPS are either male or illegal

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and they needed to break the mold

thick arch
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am I blind or wasn't yeli also a loli

fading atlas
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She definitely was not

undone vortex
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she's a woman

thick arch
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OK probably cause I never pulled her

undone vortex
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would u pull if she was 1000000 yo

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and looked like dorothy

thick arch
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no

undone vortex
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u sure

thick arch
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that supid age bs is wonky

fading atlas
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Ok how about Cachi? Would you build him with enough baby oil?

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1000 bottles?

thick arch
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no

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I got cachi the day I deleted my main account

fading atlas
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Based af

thick arch
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I am waiting to have fun again before I start fresh

warped kestrel
undone vortex
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dam u deleted ur acc

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respect

thick arch
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yes and today is the 7th day

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can't login if I wanted to

fading atlas
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The daily free ML pulls in E7 start on Monday, just sayin

thick arch
fading atlas
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I uninstalled for the same reason. I dont want to log in until they fix it

thick arch
fading atlas
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Wym?

thick arch
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you refresh shop with gold till they appear

fading atlas
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No, those are the bookmarks and mystic medals

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Im talking they are doing an event where you get 100 free ML units, 5 a day, with 2 guaranteed ML 5s

thick arch
fading atlas
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The ML tickets usually need 6 gold transmit stones for. Its a bit much to explain

graceful juniper
fading atlas
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The main point is: E7 is gonna be showering players on the 7th with free shit

thick arch
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wait 100 ml pulls or characters?

fading atlas
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Its the same thing

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But yeh 100 free ML characters

next plume
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e7?

undone vortex
thick arch
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I remember needing a bunch of ml pulls to get a ssr

graceful juniper
fading atlas
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I think its 65% to be a 3 star, 30% to be a 4 star and 5% to be a 5 star or something

next plume
fading atlas
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Its always worth starting

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Imo its the best rta gacha

graceful juniper
fading atlas
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Plus they have the best beginner experience

fading atlas
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Ppl who say otherwise are salty

undone vortex
graceful juniper
thick arch
fading atlas
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Oh the vs ai arena? Idgaf about that. I play for the rta

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And the rta is incredibly f2p friendly

graceful juniper
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Yea but need to get decen lt gear first

thick arch
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yes play counter till you git good with speed

fading atlas
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Tank down and standard have been in for so long

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Although im cringing so hard bc they are trying to create a control meta..

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Im working on a full ER team

next plume
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i will go install

fading atlas
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Cleave is still dead af tho lmao

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Yeh i recommend at least trying it out

gilded mason
next plume
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is it good to reroll? does it take a long time?

fading atlas
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Lmao Effect Resistance. Fk ER

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If you want to reroll start on monday. Its the best

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You can instant delete your acc and it takes like 5 min

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Theres a ten pull event coming

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Otherwise you have to clear to stage 2-8 to get a ten pull from the regular pool. But they give a lot of great freebies

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But during the event you can reroll even for ML 5s

next plume
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why on monday?

fading atlas
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I spent 2 years rerolling its so fun

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Because thats when the anniversary rewards start

next plume
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hmm

fading atlas
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So youll get a free 10 pulls every day and free 5 ml units

next plume
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and in the reroll i focus on what?

fading atlas
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Depends. Id look up somr tierlists. If youre hardcore you can go for an ML 5

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If youre not you can go for an rgb 5 star

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But fyi you dont need to build specifically for pve to clear content

ripe kraken
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People still living here?

fading atlas
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You can build pvp units and still clear stuff so if you want to pvp you can ignore their pve recommendations for the most part

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If you dont like the unit

next plume
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but which units are good? any recommendations, something that will speed up the process?

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like lily

gilded mason
ripe kraken
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And said he will use it when game economy gets better

gilded mason
tight laurel
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Isn't that just quitting with extra steps dv_frogKekOwO

tight laurel
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That'll get the devs to act

crystal chasm
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any aurora teams i can run without linglou s1 max?

unreal glacier
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Do devs actually monitor these things? feel like i doubt it with the amount of silence we're given lol.

ripe kraken
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Which is today

unreal glacier
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i mean in general not on holiday/weekends

ripe kraken
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They see but I think their higher management might have said

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When a lot of people are gone

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Implement them

unreal glacier
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šŸ˜‚

undone vortex
pure junco
undone vortex
crystal chasm
pure junco
undone vortex
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could always do double sustain

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ling + val or rhiaki

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red chiaki

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but LL S1 max is crazy good against aurora

pure junco
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You just need to invest your Lattices a bit Hyperlinker

crystal chasm
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i have lily s1 and 2 maxed

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val s3 and 2 maxed

pure junco
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Alrighty then

crystal chasm
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ling on the healer shell im guessing

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and who for the other 3

pure junco
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Level Rosa next

undone vortex
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diting, stripper, buffer

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or triple sustain

crystal chasm
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i aint leveling rosa ngl

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uhh

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alr

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i can do diting

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should i run holden or viper

undone vortex
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viper better for aurora

mental mural
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JACK INSHALLAH IF AFTER 31 DAYS I CANT GRIND INFERNO TERRORMATON
INFERNO DOKI DOKI
AND INFERNO AURORA ....

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YOU'LL BE IN BIG TROUBLE

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😔

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Every time I open etheria I get angry šŸ’”

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This isn't normal nor healthy

pure junco
# mental mural

You're just jealous because Daniel is a Jack alt and you're not!

mental mural
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"Every character can be upgraded to 6 stars"

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Bro is either a dev or hasn't played for more than a week

coarse dirge
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sorry for not having ssania

soft nexus
pure junco
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You're doing it Mino

coarse dirge
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i cant figure out a clean clear for hoyan

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miss any debuffs = im dead

pure junco
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RNG Restart is like that

gilded mason
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rengo is worse

coarse dirge
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every inferno in this game has a fukin ticking time bomb

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where you HAVE to kill in 2 turns

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otherwise go fuk yourself

gilded mason
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Its more like

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etheria devs love their rng

unreal glacier
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Anyone ever set up a team, does 8/10 and then log on later and it does 2/10 ???

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mind boggling.

gilded mason
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its just rng

valid zephyr
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Especially if you have debuffs

gilded mason
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pretty normal for this game

valid zephyr
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Miss all your debuffs and you do zDPS and babam runs fail

coarse dirge
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man this game is just not good

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i hop on umamusume and have the time of my life

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i log back in on etheria

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and all i feel is fucking dread

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awful fucking game

pale jetty
coarse dirge
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inferno difficulty has to be the worst thing ive experienced in any gacha launch

pale jetty
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Wouldn’t be so bad if the yellows didn’t drop

coarse dirge
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YEAH

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ALL THIS WORK

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JUST TO GET EPICS

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SO FUUUN

pale jetty
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Like if it was reds 2/3 or 2/2 I’d be fine

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But mf inferno giving epics is just not fun. Like let me get out of the PVE hell man I’m trying to PvP. Already the passives are enough rng to deal with

unreal glacier
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I think they wanted people to keep playing and not get bored with this progression

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But they made it tedious and annoying

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LOL

pure junco
coarse dirge
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at this point i dont know what they wanted

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this game genuinely feels like they just threw in e7 sw in chatgpt

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and let it decide what kinda game it'll be

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inferno difficulty does not feel like it was designed by a human

pure junco
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It was made by Ai

pale jetty
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Bet something like hey let’s cut their heels now that they’ve reach inferno

pure junco
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So that's not entirely wrong

coarse dirge
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i refuse to believe someone sat down and curated inferno difficulty

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and be like

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yeah this is good!

pale jetty
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pepethinking vibe coding yo

unreal glacier
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Hope not, should get fired lmao.

pale jetty
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It’s the future I’ve been told and I’ll lose me job as an engineer

unreal glacier
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look what it has done to their community, majority r just angry

pale jetty
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Lmao

coarse dirge
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im only very upset cuz this game could've been really fun

unreal glacier
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i kinda just chalk it up to being a newly released game.

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but they have 10000 other examples to learn from.

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so then i get a little bit frustrated

coarse dirge
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yeah my last copium is like the next 2 patch notes

pale jetty
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If this is vibe coding write me the paycheck already and multiply that number by 10 cause it’s gonna be hell to fix the fuck

undone vortex
undone vortex
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and cause another scandal which will lead to community backlash which may or may not lead to a reset event

pale jetty
undone vortex
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the vibe is jack hates us

pale jetty
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All the big companies want in

unreal glacier
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šŸ˜‚

pure junco
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Wuzzy! That would imply he isn't asleep

unreal glacier
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oh boi i farmed all day to +15 1 item

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LETWS GOO

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šŸ’€

pale jetty
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I farmed all day for 1 rare 2/2 in inferno

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But hey lots of epic fodder

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That’s amaaaazing

small knot
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dorodoro we love this game

pure junco
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Farmed my 2k shells for that one good shell

valid zephyr
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Okay I'm gonna be honest

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Even though the drops are shit

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The amount of trash you get

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If you sell em all

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You get about enough data to build 1 shell

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I kinda feel like they tuned it like that

pale jetty
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I mean I can do the same with mythic to be fair

pure junco
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Yep

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I think that's it

valid zephyr
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Not saying it's great but it feels like that's how they tuned it

unreal glacier
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i farmed 5days of hoyan, didnt get the matrix i needed.

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lots of EPICS tho šŸ˜„

gilded mason
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congrats

unreal glacier
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YEEAH! pog.

pure junco
pale jetty
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Hey at least just farming shells is making this number go up until I get the matrix I need

pale jetty
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Let’s see how high I can go

unreal glacier
pale jetty
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Until I get the shell I want

pure junco
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Watch all 9mil disappear

valid zephyr
valid zephyr
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I've started farming modules cause I've finished with shells for now

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About 18 shells built so I'm just gonna go farm some modules

pure junco
#

Heavenz don't get sent to actual Heaven now

valid zephyr
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What's wrong with 18 shells built

pale jetty
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Nothin

valid zephyr
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Just keep farming and you can build them too

unreal glacier
#

reckon they'll do another 2x soon?

valid zephyr
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Built as in max levelled and ascended

unreal glacier
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actually nvm, they should make it weekly lmao.

pure junco
gilded mason
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not bad tbh

pure junco
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Great. Now do this 500 more times

unreal glacier
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for the 10clears?

gilded mason
#

rengo hasnt been nerfed since they shadowbuff at launch

valid zephyr
#

Rengoku is just not reliable

unreal glacier
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i read that no1 really does rengoku consistently

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true?

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i tried making a comp for it earlier, everything seemed impossible lmao.

gilded mason
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well he is no 1 after all

valid zephyr
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Because it's basically just a RNG fuck fes

gilded mason
#

yeah rengo is rngfest

valid zephyr
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You RNG his starting element depending on your DPS

warped kestrel
valid zephyr
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You RNG your debuffs landing

gilded mason
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i think in a perfect world u would use 4 LD units

valid zephyr
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You RNG the mobs landing silence on the which units

unreal glacier
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thats so bad

valid zephyr
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You RNG the def break on your units

unreal glacier
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and they BUFFED it

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LOL.

valid zephyr
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You RNG the atk down on your DPS

valid zephyr
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It's just all RNG

gilded mason
#

the ads have def break, atk down silence

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basically you fucked

pure junco
#

Devs: Improved Gameplay for user experience

gilded mason
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plus rengo can switch elements

valid zephyr
#

I keep saying Yeli is the best DPS for Rengoku cause it takes away some of the RNG

gilded mason
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LOL

valid zephyr
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Pubs in the world chat is like

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Nah Yeli is shit

gilded mason
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Yeli is kind of a casino herself

valid zephyr
gilded mason
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Yeli is the manifestation of etheria dev's love for gambling

valid zephyr
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The starting element is RNG

gilded mason
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thats what i meant

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kinda sucks tbh

valid zephyr
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So as long as he doesn't start on the counter element it's fine

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Yeli is not really a casino

gilded mason
valid zephyr
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You don't need her to shoot 10 times for her to be top tier

gilded mason
valid zephyr
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Yea that's enough to clear Rengoku

gilded mason
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after that its rng

warped kestrel
# gilded mason Yeli is kind of a casino herself

Everything in this game feels like a casino, literally everything, it's crazy. I've never played a gacha game where every single system and every single mechanic and every single everything had RNG to it, and that's pretty impressive.

valid zephyr
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Any more is just more damage

warped kestrel
#

Same for SW

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There is RNG in all these games, but not to the degree of Etheria

valid zephyr
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Bro when Wyvern 13 release it was the most fucking RNG thing for me

gilded mason
valid zephyr
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Mobs have eff acc in E7 too

gilded mason
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Eff acc doesnt increase the chance % of skills

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in e7

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in this game

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it does

warped kestrel
warped kestrel
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I wonder if the devs even took this into account

gilded mason
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Nope

warped kestrel
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Or they just forgot how effect accuracy works in their game

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While they were developing these things

gilded mason
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they couldnt even do patch notes right

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the bar is pretty low

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wrong images, wrong text, wrong videos

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lmaio

pure junco
gilded mason
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if i had a penny for everytime they fucked up something

pure junco
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Of course you're not supposed to hound a company that's been around since 2003 for their launch huh?

valid zephyr
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It's functionally the same thing

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I had to go to my old guild to pull up this post

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It's just multiplicative instead of additive

gilded mason
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Thats if the first check of skill% triggers

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Meaning if unit had 50% chance in their skill to inflict debuff it has to pass that first

valid zephyr
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Yea which makes E7 shittier in terms of RNG of landing debuffs no?

gilded mason
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In this game it doubles the base %

valid zephyr
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This system in Etheria is essentially a higher chance

gilded mason
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Yes but im talking about MOBS HAVING 60% CHANCE TO STUN LOL

pure junco
#

It's cool that you love this game Heavenz, I mean it.

gilded mason
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MOBS STUN ME NOT ME STUN MOB

warped kestrel
#

The way it works in SW is: when a 30% chance debuff is attempted to be applied, effect resist and accuracy are matched against each other, and if the accuracy of the debuffer is higher than the resistance of the target, then you pass that check and THEN the 30% chance is calculated separately

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I'd be surprised if that's not how it also works in E7

gilded mason
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It is

warped kestrel
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From my limited experience with E7, it felt right, just like SW

gilded mason
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Etherias eff acc can double skill %

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Which is

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Not e7 or sw's way

valid zephyr
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I personally prefer this system to E7 and SWs tho

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I mean not withstanding the hidden stats of mobs we don't know

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That's dumb

pure junco
#

I kinda feel like getting back into E7 now

valid zephyr
#

And I swear that the innate 10% res is bullshit in the beginner FAQ

pure junco
#

Gotta return to Yuna

valid zephyr
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It's not fucking 10% for inferno

gilded mason
#

Innate is 10%

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But

valid zephyr
#

It's definitely not 10

gilded mason
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They have additional res

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Definitely

warped kestrel
# valid zephyr I personally prefer this system to E7 and SWs tho

This system may or may not be better for PvP, that's a subject to discuss later, but it is objectively worse in PvE, we're suffering massively because things have too much effect res and too much effect accuracy, and no one should need to build effect res* for PvE equipment dungeons

valid zephyr
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I have 6 hours of recorded videos of my SHoyan run

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I have 290% eff acc on my Fangu

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If the formula is right

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I shouldn't be getting resisted 60% of the time

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You tell me 220% eff acc is not enough to cut through whatever shit res they have?

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Because the words resist pop up

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If you miss the debuff nothing pops

warped kestrel
#

So, I wouldn't be surprised if Hoyan also has like 200 effect res

valid zephyr
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But Doki's is a buff

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That you can see on the buff bar

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Hoyan has nothing

gilded mason
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Yeah

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Sus

warped kestrel
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Do we know how much eff res Inferno Hoyan has?

gilded mason
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Af

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Nopw

valid zephyr
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Which is dumb

gilded mason
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We can guess how much tho

warped kestrel
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It may be that Doki mobs have 0 effect res by themelves, and that 160% is all they have

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But Hoyan has, say, 200% internally

valid zephyr
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That's not true

mental mural
valid zephyr
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Because you already have some eff res on the mobs in Hell

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You can feel the increase in required eff acc on inferno for doki

mental mural
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How can I grind inferno terrormaton without beyothin lily Holden and Veronica?

warped kestrel
valid zephyr
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Even pre inferno you needed about 120%

valid zephyr
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Which means that they already have innate eff res

mental mural
warped kestrel
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The ones in pre-inferno don't necessarily have the same as the ones in hell, that's why I'm asking if the ones in hell also have the buff

mental mural
valid zephyr
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They don't

warped kestrel
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It could be that the ones in hell have 100% effect res internally, and the ones in inferno have 0% but a 160% buff, for example

valid zephyr
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Have you not done hell

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Anyways the question of contention isn't Doki

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it's Hoyan

pure junco
warped kestrel
warped kestrel
valid zephyr
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Doki we already know you need higher eff acc because they slapped a 160% eff res buff that is CLEAR and VISIBLE

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But we don't know that for Hoyan and the eff res is high which is stupid

mental mural
warped kestrel
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They could have slapped that 160% effect res buff AND removed all of the Doki mobs' internal effect res, I don't know what's so hard to understand about this

valid zephyr
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It doesn't fucking matter

pure junco
valid zephyr
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We are talking about stats of mobs not being known

warped kestrel
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We don't know what their internal effect res is, so how do we know their total effect res beyond just what the buff says

valid zephyr
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So we don't know how much we really need to gear for it

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Doki we already know that they slapped a 160% eff res buff

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So we need 200+

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Hoyan doesn't fucking say that

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But the resist chance is high for no fucking reason

warped kestrel
#

We would need 200+ whether their total eff res is 160% or 200% though

valid zephyr
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Cause you can compare Niconana and Rengoku and you don't need that much fucking eff acc to land your debuffs

warped kestrel
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I've landed debuffs on Inferno doki mobs with like 150% effect accuracy

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It's just super inconsistent

valid zephyr
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If you want I can send you all my recorded runs for about 20hrs and you can go look at it

valid zephyr
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Which means that 60% chance of landing debuff will always be at least 30%

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The eff res for SHoyan is very obviously tuned up but there is not clear tool tip or indication that you would need to build for SHoyan

warped kestrel
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In any case, Hoyan most likely has at least 160% effect res, probably more if your theory that Inferno mobs have 200%+ effect res is correct

valid zephyr
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There's is a lack of clarity

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No but it's not fucking consistent

warped kestrel
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So, I dunno what's your question here

valid zephyr
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Cause you don't need that much for other inferno mobs

pure junco
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"The most savage controversies are about matters as to which there is no good evidence either way."

warped kestrel
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They should really let us see mob stats

pure junco
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Indeed

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That's one of my ideas. I want more stats after we clear

valid zephyr
#

But in terms of RNG amount I've had it way worse doing the abyss tower or whatever it's called

valid zephyr
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This game's RNG is just 1 roll vs 2 rolls for a debuff to land in E7

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I mean yea mobs have 60%

gilded mason
#

Thankfully only need to do it once

valid zephyr
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But when you need to land def break and stun on the mobs to clear the fucking tower

warped kestrel
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Even the amount of chips you get when you recycle shells is RNG

pure junco
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Heavenz, is this your favorite game right now? I'm genuinely asking

warped kestrel
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The layers of RNG on top of more RNG on top of more RNG in this game are ridiculous

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It's comical

valid zephyr
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In terms of farming yes just there's not much else

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I don't like E7 cause the PVP there is ass

pure junco
#

That's cool

valid zephyr
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Turn based farming game

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I can't find anything else

pure junco
#

What do you like most about Etheria?

valid zephyr
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I wanted to play Rememento but its region locked and the dev team seems to be dead so

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There was a mass resignation the other day

valid zephyr
pure junco
valid zephyr
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Also PVP isn't as cancer as E7 for now

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I like the PVE part of the game

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Yes it's ass

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And could use some work and the drop and difficulty

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But when you actually figure out a comp to clear it it does feel pretty nice

pure junco
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And that's a mature response compared to what people would usually say

valid zephyr
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I mean the game is fun

pure junco
valid zephyr
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Cause there's not much else like it

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Is it like some god tier game?

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No

valid zephyr
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And can you gear them

gilded mason
mental mural
#

DAY 29 CANT GRIND INFERNO
YIPPEEEE HOORAY
I LOVE ETHELILY REROLL SO MUCH

pure junco
#

Then grind hell

valid zephyr
#

Then don't grind inferno

mental mural
#

You're mighty right

gilded mason
#

Why cant grind inferno

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Inferno so easy

mental mural
#

Back to nightmare we go

gilded mason
#

Look at my win rate

pure junco
#

You're a blazing sea of hatred so you'll eventually win

valid zephyr
#

I've said it before my friend farms hell and is still mythic and high master for arena

gilded mason
#

You should change your name to Blaze Family, Pissed Off Leader

valid zephyr
#

Then don't

warped kestrel
valid zephyr
pure junco
#

Dude

valid zephyr
#

That's one of the biggest arguments

valid zephyr
#

OMG

valid zephyr
#

IF I CAN'T FARM INFERNO

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I'M GONNA LOSE IN ARENA

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I WILL BE HARD STUCK PLAT

gilded mason
#

I farm inferno and lose in arena on purpose

pure junco
#

Chad move

gilded mason
#

Im silver in rta dv_frogKekOwO

valid zephyr
#

No you hard stuck in plat cause you're a fucking noob crybaby

valid zephyr
gilded mason
#

I just surrender until i meet a bot

pure junco
#

Gotta stay on that bronze high

gilded mason
#

Bot is guaranteed win

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Saves time

pure junco
#

Aggravated Leader xD

mental mural
valid zephyr
#

I mean I just want to get the currency and dip

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I don't really care about RTA until I have my PVP stuff built

gilded mason
#

Just use tsukiyomi with a few lattice into s3 as opener

valid zephyr
#

Also

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I prefer Tsukiyomi than Lily

gilded mason
#

No lattice? Shop has some

valid zephyr
#

Cause Lily is a guaranteed ban in RTA rn

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Man see Lily ban

mental mural
pure junco
#

Infinite lattices

valid zephyr
#

If you try to ban protect

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They pick it first

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I rather have a Tsukiyomi

warped kestrel
valid zephyr
valid zephyr
#

As in not built

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Nor a Tsukiyomi

warped kestrel
#

Lily is basically doing the most overpowered thing she can do for you if she is being a permanent ban target for your opponents

valid zephyr
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So I'm just chilling

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Back in the days when people just banned your DPSes that was great

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Free climb to masters

valid zephyr
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And I don't have that for now

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Not enough gear to build 3 330+ units

warped kestrel
valid zephyr
#

Then I can build Lily and whoever and let Lily get banned

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I can't run no gear on Lily that's risky if the guy decides to not ban it

warped kestrel
#

That's why "Lily doesn't matter because she always get banned" makes no sense, her getting banned is the supreme advantage that she is giving you

valid zephyr
#

Yes

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But on the off chance she is NOT getting banned

warped kestrel
#

She's singlehandedly making it so you can get anything you want into the game

valid zephyr
#

She needs gear

warped kestrel
#

Yeah ofc

valid zephyr
#

So I can't just naked her

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And I don't have the gear

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If you're sitting on 12 pcs of +12 spd gear

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Good for you

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But I only have 1 set

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So

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Your argument makes 0 sense

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I literally said I don't have the gear

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Whether she is an advantage doesn't matter cause I need a second unit

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The whole point of her being an advantage is that you can pick whoever you want

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But I don't have spares to pick

pure junco
#

You're passionate lol

valid zephyr
#

Plenty of time for internet arguments

warped kestrel
pure junco
#

At least you admit it

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That takes guts man

warped kestrel
#

My argument assumes that you meet the bare minimum requirement to compete in PvP

valid zephyr
#

Bruh

valid zephyr
#

I just said I prefer having a Tsukiyomi to a Lily rn

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Cause then I would have a spare opener

warped kestrel
#

Look, I just addressed the statement you made about Lily not being that good because she's always getting banned - this means the opposite, Lily is ridiculously good if she's allowing you to draft whatever you want because she's the permaban target

valid zephyr
#

Bro you need to either go back to school for English

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Or learn to read

warped kestrel
#

I don't care about any of the other weird schizo rant you're having here

valid zephyr
#

When did I say Lily is not good?

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I just said I prefer Tsukiyomi to Lily

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If I liked Apples instead of Oranges

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Does that mean Oranges are bad?

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Bruh

warped kestrel
#

Can't really argue against preferences, everyone has their own.

valid zephyr
#

Because I have Lily

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I don't have Tsukiyomi

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If I have both

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I can let Lily get banned

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And pick Tsukiyomi

mental mural
#

Just get her then?
What's the problem?

valid zephyr
#

Having Lily being banned means nothing if I don't have something else to run

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Which Tsukiyomi is an alternative

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I can speed contest

warped kestrel
# valid zephyr If I have both

But you can't gear both, so, if you had to choose, you'd logically choose Lily, since she's guaranteed to allow you every pick you want

valid zephyr
#

Yea but who the fuck am I supposed to pick

#

air?

warped kestrel
#

If you were to pick Tsuki, something more valuable may be getting that ban instead

mental mural
#

Have your lily be bait

pure junco
mental mural
#

Works every time

valid zephyr
#

That gets banned

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And Tsukiyomi goes through

mental mural
valid zephyr
#

Lily is just ban bait rn

split halo
#

Makes sense to me tbh

undone vortex
warped kestrel
# valid zephyr And Tsukiyomi goes through

This doesn't mean that you prefer Tsuki over Lily. You're still drafting Lily over Tsuki because you know she's doing more for you than Tsuki is since she's being hard target banned

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Alright, I'm tired of arguing with someone who seems to be challenged

pure junco
#

Without perfection, where would we be?

warped kestrel
#

This should be clear enough by now

undone vortex
#

drag em

valid zephyr
acoustic oasis
#

I thought this was a thread about inferno difficulty

valid zephyr
#

Man

undone vortex
valid zephyr
#

If I pick Lily and Tsukiyomi if must mean I don't prefer Tsukiyomi

warped kestrel
undone vortex
#

maybe their fighting will net us a reset event

split halo
#

People have preferences if they prefer someone over the other so be it that’s normal

pure junco
warped kestrel
#

She drastically reduces the difficulty of many Inferno stages

valid zephyr
#

That's some 5head brain shit

gilded mason
valid zephyr
#

PVP is strictly personal preference so I don't get why you're so hung up over other peoples choice of what they prefer or not

warped kestrel
#

Which is why people like "Heavenz" come here and try to defend Inferno, because they haven't played the game as it's actually intended to be played, they've played it with a drastic difficulty nerf from the get-go

split halo
pure junco
valid zephyr
#

Ah yes

#

Here is comes

gilded mason
#

All roads lead to inferno difficulty

valid zephyr
#

The classic

#

I can't clear inferno

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So I'm salty about someone who cleared it

#

Even though they already said that inferno needs some nerf and is ridiculous

#

But hey

#

I'm defending Inferno

#

Time to go that buff inferno thread

warped kestrel
valid zephyr
#

BUFF INFERNO SO THAT THESE NOOBS WILL NEVER GET TO CLEAR IT

warped kestrel
#

So yes, all roads lead to Inferno

gilded mason
#

Alright guys

#

Lets not fight

#

This is what XD wants

pure junco
#

Increase inferno boss hp by 120%

pale jetty
#

ah yes the true pvp

gilded mason
#

They want us to bite each other

small knot
#

This is what jack wants

pale jetty
#

its in the discord

gilded mason
#

WE NEED TO UNITE

small knot
#

This is like maga vs democrats

warped kestrel
pale jetty
#

i have finally ascended

mental mural
#

Devs seeing the player base happy with the game then making it unplayable for fun

gilded mason
#

PUT ASIDE OUR DIFFERENCES