inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[pure junco]

Lol

It's memes with these people man

[ruby canyon]

it's giga easy now tho

[twilit vault]

im so glad thunder mark is gone

[graceful juniper]

I got fked by dahlia....those buff block is nuts

[left snow]

no stun right ?

dude why is ember trek getting easier but not inferno farms

[ruby canyon]

fyi if someone dies FROM the poison the mark never gets reapplied for the rest of the fight

so if you're ever struggling with that you can cheese it

[tribal osprey]

So what you’re saying is, use the grandy team

[ruby canyon]

bruh grandy is too fast

I think he's one shotting the regular waves or smth

[left snow]

kinda weird that guy doesnt play pvp lol

he will come back one day with 370 speed or something

[twilit vault]

the champions arena betting teams are actually Grandy's teams

[graceful cradle]

diff mechanic for trek this time

[left snow]

i know lol

i meant why are they not making inferno farm easier instead of ember trek

[gilded mason]

I've created a new kit that will solve inferno

Drelzhar [Disorder]

S1: ORAORAORA : Deals 10 hit(s) of damage equal to 40% of his ATK to random enemies, with each hit having a 100% chance to inflict def down and 100% chance to inflict atk down for 2 turn(s)

S2: [PASSIVE] I've Reached Perfection: Drelzhar is immune to all debuffs. With every turn that passes, Drelzhar's attack and speed increases by 10% (stacks up to 10 times). When Drelzhar reaches 10 stacks, he immediately casts Play To Win.

S3: Play To Win [Cannot be used until Drelzhar's passive reaches 10 stacks: Deals 1 hit(s) of damage equal to 6969% of his ATK to all enemies, dealing true damage equal to 100% of the enemy's max hp.

[distant wedge]

https://x.com/etheria_restart/status/1940017549107720365?s=46&t=eE2kta5tYE7R1Znhtv79lA

Etheria: Restart (@etheria_restart)

Update Notice

Dear Hyperlinkers,

After the previous optimizations and adjustments, we have continued to listen to players' feedback and observe in-game data performance. Based on the current gaming experience and difficulty balancing, we’ve decided to promptly initiate a new

X · Jul 1, 2025, 12:00 PM

[left snow]

Details of the update are as follows:

• Lowered difficulty for [Grim Pursuit] <NicoNana> Inferno level: Boss HP reduced by 15%, Attack by 20%, Speed by 10%
• Lowered difficulty for [Grim Pursuit] <Shadowflame·Hoyan> Inferno level: Boss HP reduced by 15%, Attack by 10%; Monster [Durand] Attack reduced by 15%
• Lowered difficulty for [Threshold] <DokiDoki> Inferno level: All monsters HP reduced by 10%; Monster [Elite Valor] in the second wave Attack reduced by 20%
• Lowered difficulty for [Ember Trek] <Sharon>: Boss HP reduced by 25% in all three battle phases
• Lowered difficulty for [Ember Trek] <Astarte>: Monster [Alpha - Disorder] Effect ACC reduced by 50%; All enemy Attack in the second phase reduced by 20%
• Lowered difficulty for [Anisync Echoes] <Heinrich>: Normal level - Enemy [Marvell] Speed reduced by 5%; Normal/Hard/Nightmare levels - Enemy [Heinrich] Speed reduced by 7%

[cedar aspen]

circ55 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[gilded mason]

wow they nerf nico even more>

dayum

[left snow]

holy

tose are good changes

[graceful juniper]

Good....great wall strat easier to far.

[small knot]

YEA LORD

YEA LORD

[left snow]

@shadow hornet @loud locust okay those are great changes and i applaud you guys for it

[small knot]

YES

PRAISE XD

DEVS LISTENED

[left snow]

good fricking job guys

[left snow]

ngl

those are some great changes

[small knot]

Ok so what else are we missing

[distant wedge]

sharon inferno, aurora

should be soon

[graceful juniper]

Oh i probably can do inferno dokidoki after i finish my shell lol

[small knot]

I didn’t think niconana needed more nerfs but we love to see it

[left snow]

oh wait

i thought that nerf was to sharon inferno

[distant wedge]

no

[undone vortex]

she unlocked the prophecy

[gilded mason]

no aurora nerf?

[distant wedge]

💀💀💀💀

[undone vortex]

I will let you know when I do.

[undone vortex]

I saw this too lmao

[gilded mason]

lol

[undone vortex]

I'm like let not get too crazy now

[gilded mason]

if u stuck on nightmare

[distant wedge]

people just wanna do nothing and want nerfs

[gilded mason]

i think just uninstall

[cedar aspen]

tokiyo1 has been warned

Reason: Spam

[small knot]

Rengo need is needed

[distant wedge]

lmfaoooooo

[undone vortex]

I want a reset event can they complain about that

pls

[distant wedge]

there was no rengo?

well

step by step

[left snow]

i think those are great changes

[distant wedge]

how many days has it been since terror nerf

[left snow]

a week i think ?

[small knot]

But rengo isn’t the most important to farm anyways

Like it’s not needed to progress through other infernos

[untold maple]

he kinda is the endgame target for a lot of people

[distant wedge]

one more week to go

[untold maple]

Count and codex

are mega op

[distant wedge]

can anyone smart do the automatic time for the patch

[small knot]

You can make do with 3/3 count tbh

[graceful juniper]

Lighthouse too for pvp

[uncut mica]

1 hour before global reset

[untold maple]

yeah no clue why there is no rengo nerf

and also no aurora

when she is the hardest threshold boss

just seems weird

[distant wedge]

thanks

[left snow]

seems like they are taking it step by step

[distant wedge]

be patient

[left snow]

i assume aurora, rengo and sharon nerf next week

[small knot]

But it’s good to see that it’s not just 2 boss nerds

[graceful juniper]

So we kinda get 1 week new nerf after the terror nerf

[small knot]

They actually nerfed a lot of what people were talking about

I think post nerfs they’ll focus on all the qol people have been pushing for

[tacit ingot]

the only problem is they take those steps after 80% of playerbase quit.

[golden talon]

babies cry manage to get some nerfs on Ember Trek and Echoes lmao

[left snow]

yep

[small knot]

It is what it is

[left snow]

im positive they will nerf aurora rengo and sharon next week

terror & nico last week

doki and hoyan this week

probably aurora and rengo next week

[graceful cradle]

you should do us all a favor and take a bath

[left snow]

🤷‍♂️

[golden talon]

its the pbe end game

[graceful raven]

omg dev listened time to buy packs guys

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-anime-japanese-cartoon-credit-card-technology-gif-5607300

[golden talon]

manage to clear both embert rek normal and hard first month

but yeah its too hard

Zzzz

[graceful cradle]

no it's not the endgame LOL

it's literally the starting line

[golden talon]

what i'm reading ?

[errant dome]

where the hell is rengo nerf

[golden talon]

Echoes Asynic are the starting line ?

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[errant dome]

who tf is complaining about niconana

[golden talon]

the boss is already a plot armor

[graceful raven]

rengo is bullshit

[golden talon]

but w/e

[errant dome]

devs are a month behind

ggs

[graceful raven]

they just do it as a gesture

lmao

[tacit ingot]

maybe, MAYBE, if they did a ton of qol I'd consider installing the game again. but at this point. coming back to the 6+ hour/day grind. noty

[graceful raven]

biggest of brains

[ashen oar]

Aurora ren/sharon(shells) nerf waiting room

[warped stump]

6 hour grind (you hit auto battle and let it run)

[left snow]

next week im hopeful for

[warped stump]

also interesting to nerf Doki when it's still the easiest module boss set lol

[small knot]

6 hour grind (you hit auto and close the app)

[warped stump]

id have expected aurora over Doki if anything

[ashen oar]

But, im glad they nerfed doki

[tacit ingot]

you live in delulu land if you really think this game does not suck hours of your time per day

[small knot]

Easiest but the stun rng was pretty annoying you have to admit

[vestal shadow]

Ren needs to be nerfed more than anything fight is pure rng

[graceful juniper]

The middle nuke is not fun either

[warped stump]

I just run my 10x and hit restart while working

[pearl knot]

Solo is the first thing players need to do so it needed it

[warped stump]

Did they nerf stuns in Doki? I thought that was Astarte

[pearl knot]

Doki**

[warped stump]

Astarte nerfs are a god bless rip bozo moment though for sure whoever thought adds chain stunning you was good design was goofy as hell

[small knot]

They didn’t nerf stuns but by decreasing the atk of the middle mob and overall hp you aren’t as annoyed by the stun because your team isn’t suddenly one shot the moment a unit gets stunned

[tacit ingot]

sure you do. you also press auto to swap gear, to do arena, to do rta, to do tower, to do events, to do guild stuff, to do wolves over and over for S+ ranks, you never manual anything... yeah

[small knot]

You’re not doing that every day tho

[warped stump]

I'm curious if that saves me from the spinner of death lmao

[tacit ingot]

you're not? the only thing not every day is the tower.

[warped stump]

All of this combined takes less than an hour except RTA which is the content people claim to have wanted to play

[tacit ingot]

ok. you're 100% right.

[small knot]

I don’t do rta every day

And the gear swap is literally 5 seconds because I save presets

[tacit ingot]

ofc you do. only 5 secs

[small knot]

It’s true tho

[tacit ingot]

I'd dare you to set a timer and see how this game "only takes 1 hour per day". but you wont do it

[warped stump]

if you said you weren't gonna come back then can you like uh

do your thing and go be happy elsewhere?

instead of spending time mad about some crazy time constraints that don't exist?

[tacit ingot]

you're right. considering that all the sane people left a long time ago, arguing sanity in an insane asylum is...

bye

[warped stump]

goodbye!

[small knot]

You’re making it a problem for yourself tbh

Ok bye

[warped stump]

hopefully you're happy somewhere else!

[graceful cradle]

just run your initial energy have a naked defense to easy 5-0 your attacks, hit union boss do the events and do theater

you're probably in and out in under 30 mins

everything else is fluff if you're on maintenance mode

[graceful cradle]

yall some animals xD

[tall flame]

honestly fantastic changes

surprised to see even more nico nerfs

[undone vortex]

wtf parent's guide

[tall flame]

but I am not complaining at all

[graceful cradle]

probably cuz the speed thing

[tall flame]

no QoL changes when it comes to shells

[graceful cradle]

if you just can't get say right side speed you just get ran over

[tall flame]

but Im assuming they wanted to roll out those changes later

[left snow]

hoyan is a good change

[tall flame]

or I at least really really hope that shell changes are coming

[undone vortex]

maybe I can do anisync Heinrich now

[green spear]

yeah some good changes I'm happy to see hopefully this continues with the next few balance changes (looking at you rengoku and terrormaton)

[jaunty moon]

What are the 10 chars names and color

[left snow]

should make it easier for non celince and dot teams

[graceful cradle]

yeah they mentioned last night they plan to do a number of changes across patches

[ripe kraken]

Doki inferno also

[tall flame]

yeah there's a clear progression path for people for inferno now

[final gust]

drops still garbo

[left snow]

bruh

[tall flame]

you can clear nico and hoyan, and dokidoki for swiftraid for supps and whitefang swiftfang for dps

and then hopefully tackle the others

[graceful cradle]

i imagine rn they just want people to actually be able to even do the content and then they'll fix the economy

[tall flame]

yeah

[graceful cradle]

if you do the other way around

the gap will get massive

[tall flame]

once more people get to the content, they'll start getting a TON of complaints about the shells

and then they'll prob change it

[undone vortex]

someone has to speak for play to win

[tall flame]

true really good point

[tall flame]

big dub

for the devs

[graceful cradle]

i dont even think they'll wait til then i think they just wanna give people who were walled a chance to start farming is my guess

this is the smart way to do it

E7 year 1 would have did the econ changes first then you got people giga juiced LOL

[left snow]

its way better to nerf the content first then buff the drops

[undone vortex]

now devs just need a communicate a bit more frequently

[graceful cradle]

shitty for anyone already clearing inferno but this ultimately would keep the most players long term

[graceful cradle]

this absolutely

[undone vortex]

ya know instead of waiting to communicate when riots happen

and then radio silence anywhere else

[graceful cradle]

yup we need that cbt level of communication back

[carmine palm]

different type of cbt

[graceful cradle]

they've been doing better since sunday but it shouldn't take til everything is on fire lol

[undone vortex]

it's also like

they're just starting to do the bare minimum lol

which is having proper communication

[ripe kraken]

Ye

[carmine palm]

really weird to nerf niconana again so soon and not touch sharon/rengo/aurora. doki really needed more of a speed change imo

[graceful cradle]

my guess is they were afraid to make empty promises or do something to further pour gas on the situation but in reality

[undone vortex]

still lacking on quality control with translations and showcases but ig one step at a time

[graceful cradle]

saying nothing is probably the most volatile thing to do

[ripe kraken]

Now do a kloss banner also

[glass ruin]

niconana was already free to clear no?

[carmine palm]

niconana had the best set of nerfs in the original patch

[graceful cradle]

it depends people who have bad speed get ran over

[undone vortex]

I ain't complaining cuz Nico is ugly

[main elm]

retarded nerfs imo, they don't know their own game they just pick bosses and nerf random attributes, the speed on Doki mobs are the most problematic, not their HP or attack.

also why nerf the easiest inferno again and leave the hardest ones untouched aka Aurora and Rengo ?

[glass ruin]

thought they would touch rengo

it feels like rengo needs kloss

or maybe just me

[undone vortex]

who would t wanna touch rengo

look at his abs

[carmine palm]

even with the most elite team possible rengo is still a rng fest from what I can tell

[ripe kraken]

Nah even dinah did it

[tribal sluice]

Think avg casual playerbase complaining doki and nico still

[glass ruin]

lol

[carmine palm]

yea the doki change is less than the terror change

[glass ruin]

aurora is just stall teams

[tribal sluice]

That's why they continue to nerf those

Instead of rengo

[glass ruin]

doki is really rng tho

[graceful cradle]

^ nerfing rengo rn just means people can progress again who are already ahead

they are probably using this to close the gap some

[tribal sluice]

It is the thres with lowest barrier of entry tho

[vestal shadow]

Yeah but they will have to nerf Rengo in a week anyway

[glass ruin]

true

[graceful cradle]

yeah hes def getting nerfed

they probably just giving people time to catch up

[glass ruin]

wait what does Astarte nerf mean again

just lower stun rates?

[warped stump]

lower dmg too i think

[main elm]

Rengo clear thru manual, farmable ? no chance, it's too hard and too RNG.
That's coming from someone who far from F2P + currently rank 1 in PvE Event lol

If someone getting rank 1 in PvE complaining about the difficulty in a "FARMING" content, I don't know what to fucking say to these retarded devs

[twilit vault]

nothing for Sharon & Rengo inferno? lol

[graceful cradle]

doesn't car farm inferno rengo on auto?

[twilit vault]

Clueless

[carmine palm]

funny for them to nerf heinrich today too, wasn't that where seanb was hardstuck on his account in that video last night?

[left snow]

there are 2-3 rengo auto teams with 90-100% wr

[graceful cradle]

guess we can tell healfree like he loves to tell others - git gud

[left snow]

2 of them are fast teams 1 of them is a slow team i think

[green spear]

I really hope to see a terror or aurora nerf next patch

[main elm]

no way it's consistent farm, I can do rengo auto but I don't want to lose half my stamina on losing

the mobs has random elements they can 1 shot random stuff u have

[graceful cradle]

aurora would be nice for sure

[graceful cradle]

i watch him auto it on stream it's pretty consistent

[warped dune]

Best change is they nerfed the disorder buff on Astarte. God bless

[graceful cradle]

i think he only dies if kloss misses the hack

[main elm]

git gud more than this ?

[green spear]

hopefully they change hell 3/4 as well

[main elm]

well sure congratulations u have 1 guy farming Rengo, no need nerf

[graceful cradle]

okay? every other metric grandy has you beat

[main elm]

who?

[surreal bobcat]

congrats on 3200

[indigo oyster]

Wow Niconana getting nerf even more kekw

[graceful cradle]

oh gee look at that

[surreal bobcat]

whats the team

[left snow]

there is a 100% wr team but its like 3-5 minute

[graceful cradle]

is that the yeli team?

[left snow]

diting also works

[graceful cradle]

sounds like my kind of team

[main elm]

Alright Rengo doesn't need nerf, is that what u want to say

[left snow]

but slightly different team

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-blastoise-dancing-dance-raining-gif-16507184

[left snow]

no ?

just saying it is consistent

way more consistent than sharon i would say

[surreal bobcat]

so whats the team...

[main elm]

Sharon is 90% consistent for me

[graceful cradle]

jsut because you can't clear it doesn't mean people can't consistently auto it heal lol

[twilit vault]

Sharon's flowers shouldnt have dispel straight up

[graceful cradle]

contrary to what you may think you are not actually the best pver in the game

[left snow]

a sec

[twilit vault]

you're respecting the mechanics of the fight by bringing immunity, then you can lose to rng if the dispel hits that immunity

[warped dune]

God bless somebody knows what hes talking about

[main elm]

I'm not best pver in game, I said I only said I had rank 1 in the PvE event

[warped dune]

Love you

[main elm]

read

[left snow]

so Mess, ling, lily & beyo

viper-dokidoki-diting-sania also works on auto with 100% wr

[indigo oyster]

Wait the Astarte boss in ember got change from 30% stunned to 50% eff acc reduce?

[main elm]

fakin read

[left snow]

but its like

uh

i think 4 minute clears

[vestal shadow]

this doki with lattices btw

[graceful cradle]

i wanna start latticing my doki ngl

[left snow]

yeah

[surreal bobcat]

any stats that matter for the fight? ie speed break points or specific sets/shells?

[left snow]

i think she is a fantastic pvp character

[main elm]

@graceful cradle u've done urself a favor and blocked me before, now u unblocked me just to trash talk lol, what a retard

[graceful cradle]

she really is but she's so subpar without investment

[left snow]

yep

but i think she is insane for pvp and for pve when invested

[vestal shadow]

Cause I’ve tried that team and still get fried, turns out she needs lattices

[left snow]

she is insane in cleave, cc and tank teams

pretty much every pvp team she is top tier choice for

[graceful cradle]

yup i just need to finish up my ling s1 lattice then probably going to pour into doki

[left snow]

if you have her invested

rank 1 guy has a godlike doki

i ban his doki over lily

[graceful cradle]

i already got my doki on bbath too

[twilit vault]

Doki scales a lot in long fights

also one of the best cleansers in the game if not the best

[graceful cradle]

i wanna get her faster but she's such a turtle

[left snow]

she is also good as a cleave opener if you have insane speed rolls

rank 1 guys has like 340-350 speed yang and doki

and those guys have like 120 and 122 base speed

kinda insane

[twilit vault]

yeah i can see that with the big turn meter boost

[left snow]

how he has that much speed

with a base speed that low

his drafts are also very cursed

hold up let me ss it

[vestal shadow]

Chinese diff

[twilit vault]

yo dawg we heard you like Revelation

[left snow]

he picks 3 of the 4 best cleave dps

only thing that he doesnt pick is hoyan thats also good for cleave

but hoyans main weakness is multiple dps

so when you pick 3 dps

hoyan becomes shit

the guy has cleave matchup figured out

[twilit vault]

attacking 3 times; deals a total of 6 hit(s) of 60% damage to a single enemy. When Yang lands a Critical Hit, increases all allies' Turn Meterby 10%

so 60 % turn meter push if all hits crit?

[left snow]

i think its 30% but im not 100% sure

i dont have yang built atm

[uncut mica]

30%
3 hits are dispel on crit
3 hits are push on hit

[twilit vault]

nice, thanks for clearing it up

30 % is still really good and enough to push decently fast damage dealers to the top

[left snow]

yep

also you run swfitraid on your dps for cleave

[uncut mica]

or yknow just a 6 hit single target nuke for revelation

[left snow]

so they become sufficiently fast

[twilit vault]

oh right Yang and the dog alternate attacks on S3, didn't read the last part fully

[graceful juniper]

4 perfect lattice is the easiest part....the harder one is count with right set,with right team mates(freya/kloss/dinah...because they have dmg increase debuff)

[left snow]

dude has been playing the same thing forever

ban protect yang

[open fable]

Where rengo nerf

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/483294450010030081/714396071853293659/684815547267022897.gif

[tall flame]

^^

[empty axle]

does your team have kloss??

[left snow]

thats not my team but that team has no kloss

[empty axle]

serious? what is the team? ive trying to figure out a way to auto rengo but i cant seem to find one that doesnt have kloss

[tidal arch]

Lets fucking GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[left snow]

massiah/yeli dps
beyontin
lily
lingluo

[graceful juniper]

Cant wait till they release a unit that can cleanse immune then silence,its gonna fk those revelation player

Ofc the base speed is as fast as lily lol

[polar parrot]

give me my resets

[carmine palm]

almost as good as battle cats! summoner's war blown out

[main elm]

next month prob gonna be 2mil

[ruby canyon]

i still got hella stunned idk

maybe only normal mode?

[left snow]

i dont think the nerfs are in effect yet no ?

[main elm]

honeymoon soon over

[carmine palm]

they're going to cope with "but muh rebates" and "but muh webshop" don't worry

[graceful cradle]

tomorrow i believe

[left snow]

fair

[indigo oyster]

not yet, tmr but 30% stun to 50% eff acc reduce is kinda good, no more rng

[main elm]

I can reference my own community playing this game and it's total players, at least 40% of my community stopped playing the game

[graceful cradle]

tbh i would really like to know the eff res of stuff like the doki mobs more

[small knot]

Idk 200 eff acc seems fine for the most part

Aside from the innate res which should have been removed

It usually hits on my kazuyo

[graceful cradle]

yeah but what if not everything requires 200

could better optimize your stats

[open fable]

This game everytime i put my def gears i only get 2 def wins. the moment i take them off i get 5 def loss

[small knot]

We will never know ig

[open fable]

meanwhile my guildie gets 200 def atks

[small knot]

Unless you want to do an experiment and test a range of effects acc

[open fable]

[main elm]

where is auto complete ember trek, idk folks I just don't want to go thru all these stages again with the worst stealth simulator game ever made

[outer falcon]

I've given up on def wins in this bullshit

[open fable]

@main elm i think there was an asia comp that autoed normal till 42

[small knot]

Ctg

[indigo oyster]

took me 2hrs 30min to clear 1-42 lol
hard is even worse

[outer falcon]

Sometimes I put dummy shells on my unequipped units just to scare scouters into staying away from my crew

[open fable]

was it duck?

[small knot]

Auto clears exist but that’s not the problem

[main elm]

I autod normal till 42 and hard until the same boss of 42

[surreal bobcat]

im still auto'ing on hard

[main elm]

the bosses are not the issue

the issue is stealth simulator

[indigo oyster]

yeah 1 comp lol

[left snow]

stealth simulator is too slow

[main elm]

takes too much to finish

[outer falcon]

It's movement not combat that takes the time

And the attention

[small knot]

The problem is the obnoxious instance maps that force you to run around opening chests like you’re playing story

[open fable]

i manged to clear hoyan 20min before reset

hope i dont procrastinate agin later

kewk

[small knot]

It could all just be summarized into one chest and one fight but the devs just make you waste time on pointless fights

[main elm]

why are we doing this again, like 40 times every month MINIMUM

[small knot]

And pointless running

[main elm]

WHY

[surreal bobcat]

this OR if they can just have an auto clear for all of normal if you do hard the month before

[small knot]

Even then

[surreal bobcat]

doing it 2x every month is just time consuming for no reason

[small knot]

21 stages of running is so stupid

It serves no purpose except to waste our time

[indigo oyster]

please give comp and guide when u kill pheobe hard 36

[surreal bobcat]

that i dont disagree with but they gotta keep something in the mode so i gave them benefit of the doubt on that one

[tribal osprey]

Yo they actually nurfed the bosses

[small knot]

The mode is tedious enough with the rng

[main elm]

I saw the posts that volkin and sean replying to, the changes needed, why among these changes is to make embertrek and rally reset every 2 weeks ? is this dude mad ?

or a retard I'm sorry

[small knot]

He’s a retard

[indigo oyster]

and the gamba wheel is stupid
i DID 53 spin, 53 fking spin and only got 2 bonus WTFFFFFFFFFFF

[small knot]

I made a comment on that too but he kinda just ignored me

[main elm]

I can't stand ember trek every month, BETTER MAKE IT 2 weeks

[tribal osprey]

For more rewards

[indigo oyster]

ethernet rally need like a rework cus 2-3-2 element is not it

[outer falcon]

They didn't even shell out for an environment that wasn't uhhhhh this

[small knot]

Every 2 weeks is exactly the opposite of what casual players want which is what the guy is seemingly advocating for

[warped stump]

literally, that entire post was just 'give us way more free stuff'

[gilded mason]

the running stages in between bosses in ember trek is a massive waste of time

[carmine palm]

game only takes feedback from streamers, so don't be surprised that they want endless mindless gameplay they can use for content

[main elm]

dude is just a goblin, he is making changes to get more rewards without thinking on how it will impact the players

[tribal osprey]

What post

[small knot]

Hardcore players barely have time to finish ember trek and Ethernet much less casuals

[warped stump]

the 'fix this now' post that streamers are on

[tribal osprey]

I’m behind

[graceful juniper]

I still get fkced by green light....too little unit to choose for that area

[small knot]

And bro was complaining about how the nerfs were dog shit and don’t benefit casuals

[warped stump]

i read it and it just basically came down to give us more free stuff for everything

[main elm]

It's a retarded post

[warped stump]

some i get (coins, etc) but others its just like ??

[indigo oyster]

yeah lol, it is so trash

[main elm]

literally 20% of my guild quitted coz the game is too time consuming lol

[small knot]

And a lot of people were like “I completely agree with everything in this post!”

[main elm]

they want more free stuff

[graceful juniper]

And putting kururu as the boss is not even helping...is just realize the green element boss in this game is fkin mental

[main elm]

they just don't think

[carmine palm]

I agree with a lot of it at least in spirit, but the tone is awful. Classic "devs MUST make my changes, any other changes are whining"

[indigo oyster]

make a game that use element > decide to not allow player to use counter element in a gamemode

[carmine palm]

I do see a lot of responses on the twitter posts/etc asking about changes to other difficulties, people be struggling out there in hell

[main elm]

also he didn't address the 42 boss on normal and hard, the 30% RNG stun it sucks, serves no purpose, it will just annoy the player so he reset the fight till he don't get enough stuns

[small knot]

Glad it’s just poison now

[main elm]

they changed it ?

[indigo oyster]

he didnt but dev listen

30% stun to 50% eff acc reduce

[main elm]

there is hope for devs after all

but the problem is the community

[indigo oyster]

and the new ember trek debuff is buggy as hell lol

[undone vortex]

sir it's a marathon

running is part of it

[indigo oyster]

it disappear 40% of the time

[warped stump]

say less, less dumbass debuffs the better

[undone vortex]

hide it from jack

[indigo oyster]

watch it get patch tmr

[small knot]

[main elm]

idk I feel like I'm just gonna ignore embertrek completely and play casual, unnecessary time consuming

[indigo oyster]

nooooooooo come back i need you to give me comppppp, i cant get pass this bullshit

[warped stump]

is that febian lol

[main elm]

I don't remember my combs, I autoed pretty much everything except the perma stun boss

[warped stump]

same comp as the shell dungeon, turn her into febian (get the fk out of phoebe asap) and then wail on her until she dies

[small knot]

Same

I didn’t read what they did

I just picked random shit and sent it in and failed

[indigo oyster]

but she hit hard and reduced hp shield/healing

[main elm]

but tbh, the combs isn't exactly the solution most of the time, it's the gear

[small knot]

Ykw they could do for ember trek

[main elm]

with gear u can clear it with multiple combs

[small knot]

First clear you need to do all the running

But after that

[main elm]

no gear, good luck clearing it with the optimal comb, if u did u prob lucky

[small knot]

You only need to clear highest stage to claim all rewards

[main elm]

wait what

[graceful cradle]

switch to black and nuke

[indigo oyster]

this is the comp im running on her

[small knot]

Huge time saver

[graceful cradle]

PRESS R

WIN

[main elm]

I almost got a heart attack, I thought this was implemented

[small knot]

You wish

[indigo oyster]

cannot nuke her kekw

[indigo oyster]

this is on hard btw

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-momoa-chair-reverse-backwards-leaving-gif-24174624

[graceful cradle]

which cards did you select?

[indigo oyster]

234

[graceful cradle]

i'd need to see them but i think i skipped 2

[indigo oyster]

no buff for me, all buff for thee

[ruby canyon]

gamba time

[graceful cradle]

yeah i skipped double halo and just raced febian

it should be far less damage overall

[indigo oyster]

u complete everything? gib team for febian please

[left snow]

btw you play tiamat tank comp right

on rta

[graceful cradle]

yuppers

[left snow]

whats your skills on tiamat

i mean their levels

[graceful cradle]

5/2/5 rn

took a break to start ling then i got yeli

[left snow]

hm

i want to build tank team to have another option under my hand

more options always good

[graceful cradle]

tbh only 5/1/3 i think? is necessary

[main elm]

#1389602274896121967 message

[graceful cradle]

@left snow 5/1/4 sorry

yeah getting the 20% recovery is nice, the 5 in s3 just means you can get bloodshed stacks easier

[graceful raven]

ayo devs the poison debuff in ember trek bugged magically cleaneses hurry fix it so players will get stuck

[graceful cradle]

highly recommend some bloodbath holden too

[ruby canyon]

I used viper for atk/spd down and just auto'd

I basically auto'd entire ember trek this time aside from 42 hard, apate

[left snow]

yep viper allows you to auto anything except astarte pretty much lol

[ruby canyon]

that one was kinda tough

[left snow]

you autoed astarte too ?

[ruby canyon]

yea I just outgear astarte now I think

[left snow]

lol nice

[ruby canyon]

it was also easier this time cuz 12 hard vs 24 hard so less stats, and easier debuff mark

[left snow]

what was your team ? lily-viper-linglou-rosa- flex ?

[ruby canyon]

i think valerian kloss no viper

[left snow]

hm

damn

[graceful juniper]

Is this easy or hard? If easy i wipe it with xiada revelation,cachi the G,lingluo,velarian,free slot up to you

[indigo oyster]

hard

[indigo oyster]

no viper built

[small knot]

Ok time to rush as much ember trek as I can before they patch the buggy poison

[ruby canyon]

I had 0 pulls and 700 gems before ember trek

[ruby canyon]

there's also an annoying bug with the poison tho, on the stages with the debuff where they lock 20% of dmg as hp, you can never cleanse the dot cause you're never ''full'' hp

so you just gotta kill b4 it stacks too high or pick a different debuff

[graceful raven]

complete ember trek first then make a full fledge post reporting about the bug

[ruby canyon]

skill issue im afraid

[left snow]

were ypu pulling in perma?

[ruby canyon]

im gamba addict

got another mio dupe in standard summon still no new units

saving these pulls tho

[undone vortex]

i got new dps chars i donut need

[vivid bridge]

Why focus only on Inferno?
Before tossing around the usual "skill issue" comments, consider this : if you've already cleared it and moved on, why mock those still grinding ? A large portion of casual players are still stuck on Hell 3 or 4, just trying to earn the +3 Matrix Modules that are required to begin progressing toward Inferno.

This creates a loop where players can’t advance, not due to lack of effort, but due to how the system is structured. It’s not just an Inferno issue, the wall starts much earlier.

[fallen leaf]

WAIT EMBER TRAK RESET AND I FELL ASLEEP LAST NIGHT ;__;

[indigo oyster]

ok wtf is this bug ass debuff

why do i have 2

[undone vortex]

cuz you're the winner

[graceful raven]

you get double rewards too!

[undone vortex]

jack will send u his feetpics if u win

[graceful raven]

2 feet pics

left and right

[mellow jay]

Because there are dark and light. :))

[graceful raven]

10 toes full set effect

[tidal arch]

You did hard too?

[undone vortex]

yea 7 on the left 3 on the right

[graceful raven]

nah bro

10 in my mouth

[indigo oyster]

do u think im dying or nah

[undone vortex]

um

[outer falcon]

This is the voice of the people everyone

[indigo oyster]

i got 3 poison, 3 fking poison

[outer falcon]

I preferred the stun, as a Doki enjoyer

It basically didn't exist

[tight laurel]

People mocking the more casual or less skilled have nothing else of importance or of note in their lives, so they need to feel superiority over others, even at the expense of others

It's really sad and a disturbingly common behavior pattern, esp in immature and unaccomplished people

[ruby canyon]

yes

[ruby canyon]

damn that shell seems crazy actually

on vice

[left snow]

ive seen vice in pvp

he didnt perform very well

but i think he has potential

[indigo oyster]

and im still dying

[tidal arch]

What the fuck is thattt

Bro thats 40000iq

[upbeat breach]

So they still havent fixed the pet boss that matter the most, this makes no sense at all wtf

[carmine palm]

needs a bit more monitoring

[upbeat breach]

at this point fuck monitoring, how hard it can be to see that boss is garbage unless you have a specific unit

[graceful raven]

they want u to whale so u can pull that particular unit

[small knot]

Curse you all

[graceful raven]

losing profit is whats hard

[small knot]

I hate everyone

I’m uninstalling

Horrible game

Eos alr

https://tenor.com/view/momonga-tweaking-chiikawa-shaking-covering-ears-gif-7797609015429508

[warped stump]

rip dupe lol

understandable crashout

[upbeat breach]

Problem is that people will just stop playing

[small knot]

I only have 2 ld ssr and it just had to be a dupe

I would even take dokidoki

Like omd

[outer falcon]

That same thing happened to me with Heinrich

[outer falcon]

She's literally extremely good

Smh

[small knot]

Yes now let me use her in hoyan

Oh I forgot you can’t cus she gets one shot

How am I supposed to farm my 3/3/3 revelation

[outer falcon]

With your Celince

[small knot]

My celince that doesn’t hit forgetfulness half the time

[mental mural]

@untold maple send me your pfp

[small knot]

Doki refuses to drop eff acc swift or tweave

I hate this game

[mental mural]

That brother is playing on extreme difficulty

[distant wedge]

he should just uninstall

[warped stump]

i rushed into inferno doki and sat in it for a whole week straight just to get barely enough eacc to scrape a team together

lol

and i had to sit in h4 for like 2 days to get there

[mental mural]

I agree
And they should nerf the entire game

[mental mural]

Don't use her
Use obol

Or even kraken

[upbeat breach]

but that is normal, you are expected to farm hell 4 before you hit inferno

[warped stump]

ya i am aware, im js i had to spam farm the shit out of doki to be able to rune stuff for other infernos

[mental mural]

Been farming hell 4 for 2 weeks
When will I be able to clear inferno?

[warped stump]

like if i didnt do it i was not farming hoyan lmao 200% eacc requirement on celince like

[upbeat breach]

If you are only farming doki and you cant farm any other inferno you are doing something wrong

[warped stump]

...can you not?

[small knot]

Isn’t celince the best for removing the adds

[warped stump]

i'd imagine with 2 whole weeks you'd be able to clear a lot of the stuff by now, what teams are you running for inferno doki/terror/nico/hoyan?

[mental mural]

What the fuck is this bot answer?

[small knot]

Honestly same

[warped stump]

wait is this 2 weeks of 10x refills or 2 weeks of just natural stam

cause those two are very different

[small knot]

Except I can’t clear doki yet

[mental mural]

If you're a whale maybe
They'll still attack and have hoyan move more often than if you'd just stun them

[small knot]

I was waiting to get some more speed

[mental mural]

Cant

[warped stump]

(yes, even if you're not a whale)

[upbeat breach]

You dont have units for any inferno boss?

[mental mural]

Nope

[mental mural]

Nope

[upbeat breach]

that is just impossible

nico is perfectly doable without dot for example

[small knot]

Diting xiada struggles with aurora tbh

[upbeat breach]

you can go dps for terror too

[mental mural]

This guy is always yaping on some bs

[upbeat breach]

there are a few different comps for aurora inferno too

hoyan is dot based, and rengo is kloss+lily

but the rest is a loooot easier

[small knot]

Ok so what comps are there for aurora

[mental mural]

My brother i am still stuck on aurora hell 2

[undone vortex]

dot

oh wait

[upbeat breach]

it is impossible to not be able to clear a single inferno content if you are a day 1 player

[outer falcon]

This dude always does this

[small knot]

Not impossible tbh

[upbeat breach]

xiada/rosa viper ling mia tsuki for example

[small knot]

I made some pretty bad decisions

[small knot]

Tsuki I don’t have

[mental mural]

I can clear 2 of them
And of course I use dot teams

[upbeat breach]

there are some with the new LD

[small knot]

I don’t have the new ld

[upbeat breach]

so you can do inferno, why in the hell you are saying you cant do any inferno lol

[outer falcon]

I'm only doing h4 but ling doki val diting and viper is fine for me

[small knot]

I maxed out my rilmocha but then I realized I couldn’t really do shit with her cus I didn’t have the stats to do inferno rilmocha teams

And so there’s like

[pale jetty]

I can clear like 5 of them and I don’t have dots 😬😬

[mental mural]

Cuz I cant
Stuck on aurora hell 2 for over 2 weeks

[small knot]

7 lattices in rilmocha that I really want back

[pale jetty]

Slow clear is still a clear dangit

[ripe kraken]

Playerbase :- so when will etheria make a comeback ? Devs:- when we reach perfection!!!!

[outer falcon]

They should do a reset event at 1 month

[mental mural]

Good for you 🥳

[warped stump]

viper + lingluo (s1 maxed) + another healer (mia is common, chiaki (red) is good too)) + a cycle support (tsuki, lily, red kazuyo) + a blue dps (rosa or xiada) usually clears this well

its mostly on the viper lingluo + 2nd healer though

[upbeat breach]

Just because you cant do all infernos doesnt mean you should be farminh doki hell4, that makes no sense

[warped stump]

to keep things movin

[upbeat breach]

dont even need s1 maxed on linglou

also having the artisans to help with tanking the damage

[winged ocean]

supernova ling clears cursed shield with first s3 cast it's pretty useful and 2nd healer also mandatory for mechanic consistency

[tired socket]

s1 maxed makes it more consistent AND faster

[small knot]

I ran diting xiada ling mia valerian for hell 4

[small knot]

Ok so I don’t have any lattices to max s1 on ling

[upbeat breach]

Yes, it is a really good investment, just saying it is not a requirement

[tired socket]

come back when u do

s1 ling is amazing

[small knot]

And I don’t have viper but I’ve been thinking about building them

[warped stump]

when you get them slash want to push aurora inferno they help a ton

[small knot]

Ofc when I get the xp to level them up

[upbeat breach]

you kinda have to build him, no choice

[warped stump]

oh yeah viper is giga bis for early aurora his debuffs and constant strip are so good

[small knot]

Wdym HAVE to

[outer falcon]

Viper is extremely valuable

[upbeat breach]

DO you like suffering? If you dont you go viper

[indigo oyster]

what if i have holden?

[tired socket]

not building viper is grief

[warped stump]

viper makes the content like 10x easier.

[upbeat breach]

viper is better

[tired socket]

hes so good for all parts of the game

[small knot]

Idk I kinda have been putting it off just cus I overall don’t like the design 🫩

[tired socket]

pve pvp

[warped stump]

holden's uptime is much worse than viper's, and viper also brings a speed break which is insane value as well

[small knot]

But if it makes me clear ig ill slave away

[tired socket]

also chat

[outer falcon]

I love counter units and I love his aesthetic so he's a gift to me

[upbeat breach]

cant really care about the design, you need to be efficient if you want to progress at all

[tired socket]

what are we thinking about the incoming ifnerno nerfs

[small knot]

I hate vipers whole look it just

[outer falcon]

Good start

[small knot]

I hate it

[outer falcon]

His sword is so cool

[warped stump]

overkill on nico, hoyan i understand, doki is a nice thing i guess but kinda missed why that content is so hard

[small knot]

True

[indigo oyster]

anyone wanna donate for a great cause

[small knot]

What gear am I running on viper

Do I need lattice cus I don’t have lattice

[indigo oyster]

yeah lol

[tired socket]

yeah nico is prob very weak now but i think its good coz it gives players an easy entry into inferno shells

[small knot]

Sigh

Lattice income is the enemy of all man

[tired socket]

like even casuals can prob body nico now

right at 50

[mental mural]

English please
You're not making any sense

[outer falcon]

No lol

Well maybe after the next batch of changes

[tired socket]

yeah

[warped kestrel]

Current Nico is what every Inferno should be, it's content meant to be auto farmed in the background.

[small knot]

Also I don’t have any farmed supernova for aurora

[outer falcon]

They're going to build Sybil

[small knot]

I should prollly get on that

[tired socket]

i agree nico was fine for ppl sweaty enough to sit in this thread

[upbeat breach]

Do smarter decisions, simple

[tired socket]

next round makes it casual friendly

[outer falcon]

I'm not sweaty enough to sit in the thread, I just like to yap

[upbeat breach]

nico was already easy, now it should be a braindead boss....

[small knot]

Anyways tbh I’ll worry about this when I wake up

[tired socket]

lmaoo

[mental mural]

Nerfs to come
Details of the update are as follows:

• Lowered difficulty for [Grim Pursuit] <NicoNana> Inferno level: Boss HP reduced by 15%, Attack by 20%, Speed by 10%
• Lowered difficulty for [Grim Pursuit] <Shadowflame·Hoyan> Inferno level: Boss HP reduced by 15%, Attack by 10%; Monster [Durand] Attack reduced by 15%
• Lowered difficulty for [Threshold] <DokiDoki> Inferno level: All monsters HP reduced by 10%; Monster [Elite Valor] in the second wave Attack reduced by 20%
• Lowered difficulty for [Ember Trek] <Sharon>: Boss HP reduced by 25% in all three battle phases
• Lowered difficulty for [Ember Trek] <Astarte>: Monster [Alpha - Disorder] Effect ACC reduced by 50%; All enemy Attack in the second phase reduced by 20%
• Lowered difficulty for [Anisync Echoes] <Heinrich>: Normal level - Enemy [Marvell] Speed reduced by 5%; Normal/Hard/Nightmare levels - Enemy [Heinrich] Speed reduced by 7%

Etheria: Restart Official

[cedar aspen]

blazingbla_ze has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[small knot]

I need to pre install hsr update

[mystic trail]

hoyen nerf is a life saver ngl 😂 so freaking annoying on inferno

[mental mural]

Gtfo

[upbeat breach]

that one was needed

[mental mural]

Always being a clown aren't you?

[warped kestrel]

Where did you find this?

[tired socket]

well turns out most gacha players are retards by the nature of choosing to play these games

[mental mural]

X

[upbeat breach]

Stop being a baby

[tired socket]

if u want a successful game

u need to cater to them as well

not just sweats

[mental mural]

Stop being a public clown

[outer falcon]

Linked in official news, also copied to the subreddit

[upbeat breach]

You are btching that the only thing that you can farm is hell 4 doki while having a dot team. You just have skill issues

[mental mural]

Stupid bot

[warped kestrel]

Devs listened!!11111!!!

[outer falcon]

Let's say he does -- who gives a shit

[mental mural]

When will this clown realize I never brought up doki doki?

[warped kestrel]

I still don't see Rengo nerfs, but we're getting there

[tired socket]

yeah

[upbeat breach]

If you have skill issues dont complain that you cant do content in the game

[tired socket]

and sharon

[outer falcon]

Why not

[tired socket]

but this is great

[mental mural]

And Sharon

[upbeat breach]

Learn how to play the game, simple

[mental mural]

This guy in this chat whenever he's here

[tired socket]

anyone can play any game the way they want to

[warped kestrel]

I wonder if they finally tied Jack to a chair and forced him to try and do Inferno stages without Lily/SSania/Kloss

[tired socket]

[undone vortex]

i did he kept moaning which was kinda weird

[mental mural]

I woke him up by burning his bed down

[undone vortex]

but he gave in and nerfed em

[upbeat breach]

More like they asked chatgpt why in the hell the player retention is decreasing over time

[mental mural]

As if the answer wasn't obvious in the beta

[outer falcon]

Why should he

[tired socket]

probably not because player count dropping is normal for gachas after launch

playerbase after 1-2 months stabilizes

if it then drops rapidly u have a problem

[mental mural]

@upbeat breach are you the one who told jack to boost the inferno difficulty after the beta?
If so you must be jailed and account stripped

[upbeat breach]

Many people complained about how easy the game was during beta

it made no sense

[mental mural]

And you were one of them?

[upbeat breach]

yes

you could run the same team for every single pet boss

[mental mural]

No surprises there

[upbeat breach]

I had no idea they even had mechanics during beta

[mental mural]

Ignorance is a common theme as well

[gilded mason]

You should ask him how long it takes to reach perfection

[undone vortex]

he doesnt last very long

[gilded mason]

💀

[tight laurel]

That's not a difficulty issue, that's a design issue. Makes no sense to see the same few teams being used and concluding difficulty must be increased

That only leads to exactly the problem we have, where only one team dominates everything bc increasing difficulty only limits what's viable (and we saw exactly this with dots until people could stat gap the content)

[undone vortex]

jack told me it's a sprint not a marathon

[gilded mason]

Its a marathon though

Sprint to eos?

[undone vortex]

when we reach perfection

[gilded mason]

I am not here to settle with reality

I am delusional

[nova island]

we r getting close now, reng/sharon nerf and a bit of buff to drops and we r on fire

great patch/hotfix

[indigo oyster]

say it with me eternet rally is bad

[left snow]

vice trivilizaes apate

like legit

[undone vortex]

i used dot for both sides lol

[tight laurel]

Bc of the taunt? He doesn't cleanse or anything right?

[undone vortex]

apate wont resummon the rabbits if she's taunted

[tight laurel]

Gtk. I stg if they nerf him 😭

[undone vortex]

i feel like vice is gonna get whacked lol

cuz it seems XD isnt a fan of cheese

[tight laurel]

Won't surprise me

[undone vortex]

no41 got whacked even tho she was just very good, nothing crazy

[tight laurel]

It's not even cheese. It's just a good non-ssr

How dare we actually use all the units

Don't we know they're just filler, and that were supposed to be buying summons???

Some devs prob still don't have their first yacht yet. How selfish of us

[undone vortex]

[indigo oyster]

ima spam revelation 😂

[ruby canyon]

I still like no41, get to have a chiaki the echo without using purple cubes

[left snow]

i didnt even know that character existed

[tight laurel]

She was my favorite in beta then they gutted her :\

[ornate moth]

wait how do you dot green/light side, asshu?

[undone vortex]

i brainfarted i was thinking about whitney fsr

[ornate moth]

oh lol

[undone vortex]

i had yeli for green/light

tho vice did whack her

[full delta]

are people happy with the first large rollouts of inferno nerfs?

[undone vortex]

wish i could whack sharon the sameway

[full delta]

[ruby canyon]

i did apate with asshu the first reset haha, the 0 gear week 1 strat

[undone vortex]

im building asshu now

[ruby canyon]

you have yeli now donntt

[sacred mirage]

No nerf to rengo seems crazy to me

[undone vortex]

cuz me yeli dont got a lotta lettuce

[undone vortex]

bet

[warped kestrel]

Yes, devs listened. They still need to nerf Rengo, and probably a slight extra nerf to Terro. Dunno about Aurora because I haven't even bothered with her, but everything else they're doing is good.

[full delta]

They aren't going to nerf Rengo, Sharon, and Hoyan yet because they are targeting the lv 50 inferno bosses first

They want people to catch up to the Rengo, Sharon, Hoyan, and Aurora Clearers

[ruby canyon]

shouldve made rengo lvl 100

[sacred mirage]

Idk maybe but Sharon and hoyan are prone to cheese

[left snow]

they are already nerfing hoyan

[warped kestrel]

I still think they should be nerfing the effect res of everything, but we will see, if their HP becomes low enough we may not need to be landing every debuff perfectly to beat stages consistently.

[full delta]

I see

[sacred mirage]

Im gonna Crack into rengo soon enough by brute forcing with kloss but need to finish rev farm first for 9 slot

[left snow]

wait is your in game name Aero ?

the tank player

[full delta]

Yes

[left snow]

i remember playing against you some time ago

[full delta]

Some time ago?

[left snow]

i dont remember when lol

you play tank right with tiamat & rahu ?

or am i mixing players up

[full delta]

and some other units yes

Rahu was my go to about a week and a half ago but not really now since he just gets permabanned alongside my holden

[left snow]

fair lol

also uh here is the full list of nerfs for tomorrows patch

Details of the update are as follows:

• Lowered difficulty for [Grim Pursuit] <NicoNana> Inferno level: Boss HP reduced by 15%, Attack by 20%, Speed by 10%
• Lowered difficulty for [Grim Pursuit] <Shadowflame·Hoyan> Inferno level: Boss HP reduced by 15%, Attack by 10%; Monster [Durand] Attack reduced by 15%
• Lowered difficulty for [Threshold] <DokiDoki> Inferno level: All monsters HP reduced by 10%; Monster [Elite Valor] in the second wave Attack reduced by 20%
• Lowered difficulty for [Ember Trek] <Sharon>: Boss HP reduced by 25% in all three battle phases
• Lowered difficulty for [Ember Trek] <Astarte>: Monster [Alpha - Disorder] Effect ACC reduced by 50%; All enemy Attack in the second phase reduced by 20%
• Lowered difficulty for [Anisync Echoes] <Heinrich>: Normal level - Enemy [Marvell] Speed reduced by 5%; Normal/Hard/Nightmare levels - Enemy [Heinrich] Speed reduced by 7%

[cedar aspen]

circ55 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[indigo oyster]

nerf the speed of terror by 10-20% should be fine

[full delta]

I see - glad to see the lowered hp for the bosses

the doki change is nice - I have like a 95% clear rate so maybe that bumps me up to no fails

[left snow]

this bot is troll

like actually

[full delta]

they should really lower the effect resist of the mobs in doki tho tbf

235% effect acc kazuyo missing sleep is kinda sadge

[indigo oyster]

they need to remove the 10% innate res on all mob tbh

[sacred mirage]

Im pushing into a 50-secondish clear team after some lattices and a couple changes on doki so im hype about it

[full delta]

im a rosa user for doki and aurora

so my runs are 3 mins each

💀

[left snow]

im just hoping they nerf aurora, rengo and sharon next week

[sacred mirage]

Im massi/yeli for all content

[left snow]

and inferno should be good

we are almost there

[full delta]

ye

[main elm]

Unironically Sharon is the fastest and most consistent one for me over Doki/Aurora/Hoyan/Rengo

[left snow]

you are built different

[ruby canyon]

not too strange, cuz you just need cachi tg with codex and any good dps instead of multiple 5*s for the others

[main elm]

Rengo sucks hard for me coz I need to swap so much gear so fuck it

[left snow]

i think next week we will get rengo nerfs

i will farm it after that

it might be cope

[dreamy cliff]

We've got a start, there's more to come. I think they actually listen to us which is great.

[ornate moth]

more inferno nerfs yipeee

[main elm]

Biggest nerf we need is the game time consumption

[ornate moth]

rengo still a problem like others have said but based on them being willing to nerf the others I assume we get that eventually

[dreamy cliff]

I'm sure they will nerf it soon enough, meanwhile we got tons of content to farm now until we get more patches

[ornate moth]

lol true, economy and daily grind are now my main concerns

[warped kestrel]

This will fix itself once Inferno stages are easy enough that we can auto them with <1 min timers

Using all daily stamina will take like 15-30 min, and doing everything you have to do daily will be around 1h

[warped kestrel]

And if you want to max refresh, then yeah, that may take like 2-5 hours, as it should

[dreamy cliff]

No modules to upgrade/all shells have atleast epic or red rolls btw

[main elm]

Yeah idk, will fix it prob by 15-20% need like 70% time nerf

[warped kestrel]

2-5 hours of autoing in the background, that is

[warped kestrel]

A 20% HP nerf to something is not necessarily a 20% time decrease, that 20% nerf could bring things down to a point where you can clear in a single full rotation instead of 2+, which could halve the time for a run and make it go from 50-80% WR to 90-100%

[ornate moth]

I think one issue with daily grind (at least for me) is gear switching. Module loadouts are nice but full team loadouts and/or pvp vs pve loadouts would help a lot. The time and thought required to swap your gear back and forth between units for your stamina burning vs phantom theater/union boss vs PVP vs cage rumble/events vs ember trek/ethernet rally is a bit annoying

[warped kestrel]

We'll see

[warped kestrel]

There being PvP and RTA-exclusive layouts is something that some of this game's competitors already have, and I can see that coming in the future. The issue of having to swap PvE gear around between PvE characters is an issue of us not having enough gear yet, that one will solve itself

But the PvP/PvE gear setups is definitely something that should be added eventually

[dreamy cliff]

I'm fine with switching modules for a while, but we ALTEAST need a RTA/Arena Save... and atleast twice the ammount of saves we got for PvE

[warped kestrel]

What's the PvE limit to saves? I have like 10+ and haven't reached it

[dreamy cliff]

It's probably gonna take a bit to code and implement, but for the time being give us like 15 more gear saves to help

[dreamy cliff]

Uh unsure but i've reached it a while ago

[warped kestrel]

I'm constantly deleting outdated ones

I have like 10-15 usable characters, and like 10 saves, some characters use the exact same set as others, so no need to make two

[frozen stone]

For the marathon runners those who are level 70-80 are months ahead of u and still struggling to clear farming content/ upgrading gears and shills gl with that

[warped kestrel]

For example, if I want to use Kaz, I just use Obol's save

[dreamy cliff]

So am I, I've got my arena def preset and like doki/dot team preset and my 2 dmg sets and I think thats all of them

I can't have more

[sacred mirage]

Level 93 here. Still cant some stuff yet and im just sitting on hoyan autos for now. Lol

[warped kestrel]

I'm 80, can only auto SSania favored stages like Hoysn and Nico, without SSania I have no idea what I'd be doing

Probably hardstuck in Hell 4 or something

[sacred mirage]

Funny bit is celince trivializes hoyan too

Doesnt need lattice either

[warped kestrel]

I don't have a celince

[dreamy cliff]

Lvl 96 atm, I can clear anything beside Aurora, my messiah is took weak. When I get my momentum/fury/furyedge revelation I should be clearing it though

[sacred mirage]

Thats how im stuck too

[ruby canyon]

embertrek/ethernet are 3 hours each to reclear which is rough, the rest doesn't seem tooo bad right now

[left snow]

well tbf one of them is 30 day reset other one is 3 week reset

[warped kestrel]

They give us like a month to clear Trek, and like 2 weeks to clear EtherNet, I think it's fair that it takes that long

[ruby canyon]

what are the economy problems cause ember trek giving resources for 2 6* and 100 pulls seems quite high to me already

[warped kestrel]

It's about how long it takes to clear ToA/ToAH in SW

[left snow]

yeah lol

ember trek income alone

is higher than the f2p income of many gchas

[warped kestrel]

I've been consistently saying it: this game is actually very rewarding in comparison to its competition

SW and E7 are probably very generous, but they kind of have to be that generous, since their premium currencies and pulls are worthless at this point

Compared to say, the Hoyo games, events and monthly/weekly resetting content are like 2-10 times more generous here

[ruby canyon]

we get like 2 events a patch in hsr that give 3 pulls each

[sacred mirage]

Its generous, just a high barrier of entry to reap it

[warped kestrel]

Yeah, and that barrier is upheld by Inferno - the place where we get equipment(progression) from, being so disgustingly hard to do

[sacred mirage]

Yup

Its not cool

I dislike that I straight up gave up on rta to do inferno cuz I knew longterm that was worth it

[ruby canyon]

It does get a lot better, I struggled last reset, now I did everything auto without having to gear swap much. But probably very frustrating for a lot of people

[left snow]

pve king

waiting for evi to dominate rta next

🧎‍♂️‍➡️

[ruby canyon]

I wish

[pine quarry]

find shell for metrix i want , 10 days with 0 result , drop rate is like hell

[sacred mirage]

I lowkey intentionally didnt finish hard mode ember on purpose for burnout reasons.

Saw a guild member spend an hour in a fight to finally clear it and he almost lost

I was like oh hell no

[pine quarry]

i spent a days for that

[ruby canyon]

low rarity units having complete and loaded kits is such a blessing

[left snow]

i will reset my pve characters next reset

by that time i should be able to brute force pve content

getting my lattices back will be huge

[warped kestrel]

Same, had to do normal 42 on the last day, then pushed all the way to Rengo and just decided that for my mental health I wouldn't bother moving gear around to crack it, even though it looked very doable

[ruby canyon]

yea might take a while tho

[ornate moth]

just feels kinda bad to build new characters right now, especially running investigation on non-2x is just terrible. Lattices feel a little too scarce, I think shadowprints and prowess materials are probably ok.
Also training data and coins just disappear so quickly and 40% refund on modules is too low

[left snow]

i finally decided to max my lingluo s1 btw

i am going to be building tank team as flex pick

[ruby canyon]

when I initially tried astarte hard 24, I was like fuck no and came back a week later and one shot it, there's 0 point bashing your head against it cause if you don't have the stats you're just fishing for 1% rng runs

[sacred mirage]

I swapped to the mindset that if I cant auto it, im not strong enough yet to bother with it.

This applies to most things with few exceptions and my calmness has rocketed

[main elm]

Time consumption isn't necessarily the background stuff, it's the resets of rally/ember trick, shitty events...etc

[undone vortex]

cage match is SOFUN

https://tenor.com/view/snow-white-snow-white-padded-room-padded-cell-gif-5436881297433624883

[ruby canyon]

phantom theater and union boss could be weeklies ngl

[warped kestrel]

Cage shouldn't have been released this early on, neither should the train

I don't know what they were thinking

[main elm]

Sure the inferno nerfs will make the background autoing much better both in difficulty and time to do

[undone vortex]

Jack is a xiada main obv

[warped kestrel]

They should've kept rereleasing the same passive events for like a month or two, then release those events that need far more investment than we could possibly have

[undone vortex]

she has 2 big reasons that appeal to jack

[ruby canyon]

the ears arent THAT big

[main elm]

Yeah cage sucks ass, it should never have released this early,

[carmine palm]

cage wouldn't be as bad if there were a 20x speed mode. can't click anything anyway, dunno why we have to stare at it for 5 minutes

[warped kestrel]

I have Xiada, still couldn't make it past like stage 16 of the train or something

Just didn't have the investment to make it work then

It was like two weeks into the game

[undone vortex]

yea my highest was 14 with xiada lol

but my xiada was mid build

[ornate moth]

secret for train was take the special cards that last only 3 rounds once u hit like round 14-16ish. But it's RNG cause you might not be offered the good ones

[undone vortex]

cubic game and the meme hunt are good events cuz they easy

[ornate moth]

my best score I just kept taking "remove 80% of mob HP for next 3 waves" back to back and got to like round 23