inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[short valve]

next FEW patches ? i doubt there arent much player at this time

[mental mural]

Hsr isn't real
Please no rumors

[outer falcon]

Sybil does kinda look like a self-contained anti-Nico unit lmao

[timid thicket]

I put Jackal on her too, mainly for 2 turn speed buff. Obviously rin the unbowned is literally made for inferno nico, but Sybil does well

[tidal arch]

I been thinking about this thread a lot and i don't know why i was crying before, i think inferno bosses are fine, we need to focus on underrated units like vice and cachi to find solutions as a community

[timid thicket]

Grats

[young zealot]

Good luck with your new life, you’re not one of us anymore

[tidal arch]

o7

[mental mural]

We've lost another one

[undone vortex]

Thank you for sharing these insightful feedbacks. Some of them we are already discussing within our team and hopefully you could see some changes in the next few patches. Please be patient. Etheria won't go this far without the support of this great community. Thank you!

[sly ravine]

istg, even if I pull I won't invest in her, the fact that I still don't have her after 1.3k summons set me on a warpath

[open fable]

surely youll get her

like i did with 4 weeks of max pack refreshing

F2P BTW

FREE TO PAY

[tidal arch]

Not investing in her is not an option

[sly ravine]

yes it is, f that unit

[open fable]

every day

that lattice apex summon pack looks tempting

[graceful cradle]

hey! how dare you use logic here. Only white knighting allowed

[open fable]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria

[coarse dirge]

Everyone with lv40 shells and yellow/red passives, Yeli on Revelation for hp% dmg, Artisans, Gigabyte, Codex

according to the game this team is absolute dogshit against inferno terror and i should be ashamed for even trying it

[undone vortex]

this is a good idea, let's see if we can do something like this

[coarse dirge]

i guess should've bought all the 30$ 50$ 100$ packs for golden lattices

my fault devs!

[open fable]

ngl diabolitcal for putting lattice on 100$ packs

its like they know

[coarse dirge]

i havent seen any xd staff talk anymore

probably done pretending they care

[open fable]

cause they know they will get dog pilled

alot of people already tagging jack and dgaf anymore

[coarse dirge]

nothing ticks me off more than a game having potential to be decent only to be ruined by incompetent developers

but honestly it's my fault for thinking this game was even a real game to begin with

why did i think a game that uses ai would actually put any effort into the game

im delusional as fuck

[gilded mason]

its hope

hope for a brighter future

[coarse dirge]

the whole game's a red flag starting from the first livestream hiring hosts from fiverr who knows nothing about the game or cares even the slightest bit

to using ai image generation

to having shit balancing at the start

but have 30$ 50$ 100$ packs to alleviate it

to using ai voice overs for their trailers

to having zero effort into their endgame pve content where the reset is the exact same layout

im having a revelation moment

this is my fault for thinking this game is an actual game

[gilded mason]

this is the real red flag tbh

[undone vortex]

FIVE WHOLE PERCENT

[ripe kraken]

That's why revelation is so op in game that it rules pvp

[gilded mason]

when a game uses the word "top up"

its 100% p2w lol

thats the rule

[ripe kraken]

Can u contact jack btw

[dense mauve]

low spender, just cleared all 3 infernos. yes i have s.sania, but can i just say i dont even want to touch them again, lest even think about auto-ing this. It took me so much to clear them, and now i have to auto them.......?

[river pewter]

please fix

[warped kestrel]

Normally I expect my PvP gachas to be P2W in the PvP aspect only, in this one even PvE is borderline unplayable without hyperspecific LD SSRs

[ripe kraken]

Pvp is just revelation shell check here

[dense mauve]

6mins into aurora, viper misses rng strip 3 times in a row

[jolly relic]

inferno should've guaranteed 3 liners

[river pewter]

this

[river pewter]

not whatever this is

[small knot]

Revelation

[arctic plover]

true, that needs fixing. Inferno shells give epics and inferno thresholds don't.

They should make it so you can get epic modules on inferno too.

[river pewter]

real

[mental mural]

#1385288185226985593

[gilded mason]

You can contact him too

just dm him

[warped kestrel]

Not only do you have to auto them, you have to auto them for the next 5-10 years with fast runs in order to loot 30+ sets of well-rolled substats.

It's unbelievable that there's still someone in that development team who thinks that inferno is "end game" and meant to be "inferno difficulty." It's like they've never reached mid/end game in any of the competitors of their game.

[undone vortex]

you know what Jack would say to this

[gilded mason]

what

[dense mauve]

i think there was another post about rng in this game? yeah the rng is unbelievable. unbelievable that my strip can miss on aurora 5 times in a row. I don't wanna doom post because i genuinely enjoyed the progression up to hell stages. ember trek and ethernet is another can of worms i'm not gonna bother touching.

sincerely, help? don't give 1 line answers? sure the devs need time but maybe tell us when?

[arctic plover]

Yes.

He would say ||Your voice matters a lot to Etheria||

[undone vortex]

he'll contact the inferno director

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-good-man-nicolas-cage-gif-5444501

[warped kestrel]

These games all have this rng factor, and it's usually 15% vs this game's 10% - the difference that's making this game such disgusting RNG hell and not its competitors, is that they've designed inferno to hit like a truck and wipe you out after a couple of turns of bad RNG, while in their competitor games you can afford to miss DEF breaks and such, and it only extends the run by an extra 30s at worst.

[undone vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/im-going-crazy-clap-happy-snow-white-gif-12563290

[mental mural]

Our team is working on it.
Your voice matters a lot to us

[undone vortex]

ER choosing to start a tournament when people don't have the resources to make proper pvp teams

issa choice

[gilded mason]

Thank you for sharing these insightful feedbacks. **Some **of them we are already discussing within our team and **hopefully **you could see some changes in the next few patches. Please be patient. Etheria won't go this far without the support of this great community. Thank you!

[arctic plover]

any great listeners in chat?

#general-chat message

[sly ravine]

I see a lot of doomposts, honestly, I believe we get a lot of silence for now and the team will drop an insane patch. call it copium but I get that feeling

[undone vortex]

if the devs give me Lily I'll look the other way

[mental mural]

They expected people to whale and be ready

[warped kestrel]

Also the fact that you need to MAX OUT your character's effacc and are still clearly not at optimal effacc, while in more reasonably designed games things have much lower eff res

[undone vortex]

funny thing is whaling still doesn't help

💀

[mental mural]

Sup

[undone vortex]

whaling doesn't fix the shitty drop rates and modules/shells costing an arm and leg to max out

smh devs

[graceful cradle]

DW you aren't missing much it's all Rev abuse

[undone vortex]

um excuse me u forgot

who's cleave is faster

[dense mauve]

haha i wish i could say this. I dont have lily myself but even with lily i dont think it changes my core issues with the game

[undone vortex]

it won't but I'll feel better

[dense mauve]

[warped kestrel]

Lily makes this game playable if you're a hardcore player, if you're a casual/normal human being that contributes to society, you won't make it far even with a Lily

[dense mauve]

at least in pvp you dont have to watch people first pick lily all the time

[graceful cradle]

Cleave's been getting rolled in these tourneys no? Rev cheese can outsped they can't kill bbath bruiser teams

[warped kestrel]

Thing is, without Lily, even a hardcore player finds this unplayable

[scarlet quartz]

I feel called out tf

[arctic plover]

shitposting in the inferno thread is a valid contribution to society

[scarlet quartz]

God bless

[scarlet quartz]

[dense mauve]

anyway i've said my piece im out

[scarlet quartz]

Cheers

[mental mural]

During the beta hell 4 was impossible for me to clear even with lily

[scarlet quartz]

Oh that's a skill issue

[dense mauve]

hope to see yall soon if we even will

[scarlet quartz]

Time to find out where you live

[pure junco]

Don't worry just swipe more, trust me

[scarlet quartz]

Wait you're a nova player nvm

[undone vortex]

swipe more is a good idea, I'll see if we can add this

[warped kestrel]

Hell 4 is fairly hard, it requires a degree of preparation and gearing up to overcome. I've consistently held the opinion that Inferno's difficulty should be Hell 4's difficulty - requests preparation, but doesn't give you an insanely hard time that makes auto look unattainable

[scarlet quartz]

Very agreedge

[arctic plover]

beta hell 4 was doable

[pure junco]

Then people said it was easy

[undone vortex]

smh

[arctic plover]

are the people in the room with us?

[pure junco]

Lurking

[arctic plover]

there was one thread where people called OP a dumbass (because they were/are)

[graceful cradle]

most quit i think

[pure junco]

Welcome to the Internet haha

[graceful cradle]

oh yeah the guy who said difficulty was fine git gud then the next day cried that his yeli with atk down couldnt kill rengo

[undone vortex]

my debuffed yeli deals less DMG than diting

[graceful cradle]

that thread was a goldmine

[undone vortex]

but is it as gold mine as the dude who said dokidoki was too hard and their team was red rin/Lian/Freya/gray/val

and she needs NERF

[pure junco]

In fact many who were against this thread starting posting and complaining here overtime 😅

[undone vortex]

name em

[pure junco]

🤡 You first

[undone vortex]

ma'am u are an og

of this thread not me

[warped kestrel]

I haven't been calling them out because I believe in second chances and letting people learn, as long as they weren't absolute pieces of shit, like that Yeli guy was

[pure junco]

True that

[warped kestrel]

People should really learn to not speak with confidence and authority on things they don't fully understand and have experienced

[pure junco]

Also it's easy to believe Yeli would be an answer from the Devs

[undone vortex]

no courage

[warped kestrel]

Making the "solution" to overtuned inferno another LD SSR would be insanely dumb, because the average player isn't going to drop $300 on the game to get a character that allows them to progress

[undone vortex]

I think u smell bad

[warped kestrel]

And games have to be balanced around normal people

[undone vortex]

games really do need a casual fanbase cuz like

u really think new ppl gonna spend or play or notice a game with 50 players

[ripe kraken]

Whales will

To beat ai that is

[undone vortex]

whales more like

[ripe kraken]

This game is soon gonna be that only if they don't do anything

Whales vs computer

[undone vortex]

computer kinda winning rn

dude who spent 3k with no lily or sania feeling it

[civic cloak]

up

[warped kestrel]

This isn't some arcane concept, every game dev knows that they have to build their game around being reasonable to average f2p players, because no one will play a dead game

[undone vortex]

meanwhile XD be like

what if we used outdated beta footage to make Animus showcases

[ripe kraken]

What happened to XD previous games

Did they also crashout like this

[undone vortex]

I heard SoC flopped

[graceful cradle]

lel

SoC is a good game just nothing to do

[ripe kraken]

So they are going same way again I see it is a pattern

[undone vortex]

Jack wants to come

[graceful cradle]

Part of what made toxic ass WotV enjoyable was it's GWs

But there's literally nothing to do with your chars in SoC besides slightly harder pve that comes occasionally

[pure junco]

Many have left for Uma, PSX, Blood and the HSR update in a few days

[undone vortex]

p5x I heard good things

[ripe kraken]

I think asia S1 is half empty now

[undone vortex]

maybe I needa fall into the hype

[pure junco]

At this point the only people left are the niche fans and those who wanna give it more time

[undone vortex]

cuz ER's flop era is like an ugly twink

can't be topped

[warped kestrel]

What an analogy

[ripe kraken]

Next dev radio or update will make most of us decide to continue or not

[graceful cradle]

even E7 lmao i saw a bunch in some CCs streams gotten a few discord dms asking for guides etc

that's the problem with trying to time travel to compete with a major competitor

Ytube been cooking those arguments too

[pure junco]

Oh yeah. Still funny as hell seeing people in this thread jump into E7 lmao

[ripe kraken]

True

They should compete with current e7

Not past e7

[graceful cradle]

the game channel chats no longer scroll anymore

[ripe kraken]

Where arbiter vildred and stene destroyed everything

[graceful cradle]

absolutely cuz next week current E7 about to hit like a semi to this playerbase

The top content creators are mostly E7 content creators

Just wait til the avg player sees that shit

[pure junco]

I get the analogy but if someone had a 1920 Ford they'll be pretty rich selling that

[graceful cradle]

you're not wrong lol

dang we lost English220

[graceful cradle]

Yeah now it's Rinak and Barunka destroying everything

[ripe kraken]

Also huge summer update coming to e7 so all players might go back to it very quickly now

[graceful cradle]

And LTene about to farm tears professionally

Yeah the anni is insane even better than 6th anni Dash event last year

It starts next week on the 7th

7th day of the 7th month for 7th anni

made me chuckle

[warped dune]

For 1 month to quit again like i will lel

[ripe kraken]

Ye people will comeback here only if devs do something lol

[graceful cradle]

it's a 3 month anni celebration

so at least 3 this time LOL

[ripe kraken]

Atleast that will help etheria devs open their eyes lmao

U can return here when they make it good cause all left so they have to inevitably

[graceful cradle]

yup

and the people like nyaaaa don't touch my inferno

[warped dune]

I dont think it has anything to do with e7 releasing anything. They either decide to listen and apply changes or they dont.

[graceful cradle]

are gonna be really salty when they see how hard they nerf it if everyone is quitting

[warped dune]

Its all about how they feel about their game.

[ripe kraken]

If playerbase leaves they have to do it

[graceful cradle]

vs the smaller adjustments it really would have needed a few weeks ago

[ripe kraken]

So if people jump now

They have a long shot

To convince etheria devs XD

[graceful cradle]

absolutely it does

It's not like ER vs Hoyo games where there's zero overlap

This is quite literally a direct competitor in the same space

going into their best new/returning player point every year

[warped dune]

With the difference that e7 is 20 years old and etheria is 1 month.

[graceful cradle]

so what

that's an even better argument for ER not doing what they are currently

[warped dune]

You have a well established playerbase that is playing the game for years. Those wont jump of e7 anyways. They literally play etheria now because they cant do shit in e7.

[ripe kraken]

Ye but why are they doing rewards like this game is released in 2018 or something

[graceful cradle]

People from E7 are just playing both

But there's a ton of people in ER that never heard of E7 that are now getting that exposure

[ripe kraken]

All latest gacha are atleast doing rewards based on current and new gen

[graceful cradle]

And when they see the generosity of the anniversary in say Car's steam, Viks, Tristens, Lights, etc

You'll see people jump

[ripe kraken]

To drag new gen u need to give good or reasonable rewards

[graceful cradle]

There's a ton of them they regularely have super high viewership in ER

[warped dune]

All latest gacha are watching at the casual playerbase, it has nothing to do with old or new. They are just adjusting with time because people are getting busier in life so they cant play as much.

Etheria is literally doing the opposite

Which is not good for building a huge playerbase.

[pure junco]

Well yeah, they want a niche fan base

[ripe kraken]

Yes I agreee

[warped dune]

The entry level should be easier and early progression fast.

[warped kestrel]

That means less money, and I don't think they want less money

[ripe kraken]

A fan base that takes what ever crumbs they give like some servants?

[graceful cradle]

ER is making decisions like they have a core established playerbase when realistically speaking, they don't yet

[warped dune]

Where they get all the tryhards is basically the pvp.

[graceful cradle]

Gacha players are fairweather fans

like they'll go as fast as they came

[ripe kraken]

Also rta season being 80 days and rev can't be nerfed in rta cause of that

[warped dune]

So tryhards will stick to the game anyways if pvp is good and endgame pve challenging.

[graceful cradle]

mhmmm

though we caused that

[ripe kraken]

How they already thought game would be fine for that long time ahead of time

[graceful cradle]

Some crazy levels of malicious compliance

[graceful cradle]

doesn't matter if there's no players

[ripe kraken]

What is pvp here

[warped dune]

They shouldnt cook their casual playerbase that hard especially early on.

[ripe kraken]

Slap revelation

[pure junco]

At this point it looks that way. I mean there's no real point in whaling if that sort of cycle doesn't get you ahead very much right?

[ripe kraken]

Win

[graceful cradle]

if the value of their money feels disrespected whales won't swipe

that's a recipe for eos

[warped kestrel]

This game gives 1000+ gacha pulls within your first month, counting in events and all content, that's extremely generous for gacha standards. The issues are mostly balance being completely dumb and nonsensical, and 0 communication

I have no complaints with how generous they are

[true trench]

cool story but there's no lily/ssania on my account

[pure junco]

Yep. A model that doesn't work very well for PvP Gacha

[ripe kraken]

Ye but the skill ups I agree it's just the drop rate and everything is expensive even to upgrade

[true trench]

thanks for your generosityi guess

[graceful cradle]

i mean i'm fine with lattices, i expected that to be a bottleneck

i even expected early on 6*s being a limited resource like E7 was

[ripe kraken]

Like I touch something and I cannot do it again like for 2 days

[graceful cradle]

but the shit with shells and coin is too much

[ripe kraken]

Ye

And module recyclling is joke

[warped dune]

And now they wont be able to adjust it.

[warped kestrel]

Same, I still haven't pulled a Lily, and the fact that lilyssania are so necessary to effectively tackle generic PvE content is dumb, terrible design that will outright kill this game, but I wouldn't call them greedy for that, I think they're just unbelievably dumb

[ripe kraken]

U can't even try what sub u would get

Yes

[warped dune]

Literally cleared everything without them, but i agree that its easier with them.

[graceful cradle]

@warped dune like i said here sadly we did this and now ER devs making some reddit HoF worthy decisions in response

[warped kestrel]

Why are you even here then?

[ruby canyon]

ppl who cleared everything can't complain about the state of the game?

[graceful cradle]

to tell us we shouldn't compared 20 year old E7 to 1 month old ER ofc

cuz you know they don't compete 🙃

[warped kestrel]

Everyone can clear any PvE stage without lilyssania, one thing is clearing it after manualing for 10 minutes, another one is autoing it as it's intended to be in an auto gacha game

What kind of stupid take is it that "I cleared it without them"

Are you trying to brag a masochistic "achievement" in a no skill gacha game?

[ruby canyon]

because the issue isnt lily ssania it's horrible tuning, lack of testing and no communication

[graceful cradle]

he isn't really agreeing though

nor really complaining

[pure junco]

Adept is simply an Adept

[warped kestrel]

Everyone should be able to auto shitty farming stages with completely free units as long as you're respecting stage mechanics and using +15 mythic gear

The fact this doesn't work that way means it's badly designed

[ripe kraken]

After all this we get this

[warped kestrel]

And no one cares that you were able to get a manual clear after hours of restarts with some random team

[pure junco]

100 crystals

[graceful cradle]

nah didn't you know you gotta beat the endgame boss that is clearing inferno to finally get to the real endgame which is.. making it consistent on auto to get to the REAL endgame which is rally and hard ember that most of these fools haven't even seen yet

[warped dune]

What you mean, because i agree they should nerf inferno duh?

[warped kestrel]

If you're so comfortable with the state of the game that you counter a statement about how borderline necessary Lily and SSania are with "I cleared everything without them" - no, you can't, because you clearly seem to think that the state of PvE is perfectly fine, considering you're trying to discredit those who state the fact that clearing inferno without those characters is inhumane.

[pure junco]

All they have to do is tone it down a bit, nothing back breaking for their ai coding

[ruby canyon]

adept literally said this, how are they being a shill/defending the game

like don't purity test so hard we all agree for the most part

[cold glen]

Lol

I love this drama

[warped dune]

Because they are emotionaly loaded

[ruby canyon]

lmao

[pure junco]

When there's no immediate target right?

[ruby canyon]

dumb ass unemployed drama

[warped kestrel]

But wait, you said that you cleared everything without Lily and SSania, that sounds like the game is perfectly balanced and well tuned for you, go on, keep clearing inferno without Lily and SSania, what else do you want from this game than the ability to clear inferno without those premium characters? Because that's really all I want; to be able to reasonably clear inferno on auto without a Lily.

[warped dune]

You see? Hes emotionaly loaded.

[pure junco]

Flamel chill, relax. You're reading into what Adept said too deeply

Like they're a sleeper agent lmao

[ruby canyon]

If the ppl who have no issues still complain about the current state it's just more evidence things are wrong, think about it for 1 sec

[graceful cradle]

it's 5 30 in the morning lol some people waking up for work daddy chilllll

[warped dune]

I am working right now doing my daily 30 minutes sitting on the toilet and chating in discord.

[ruby canyon]

bruh I'm literally omw to work but this just feeeels unemployed yk?

like it's a state of mind

[warped kestrel]

Emotionally "loaded" how? You're the one who feels the need to try and discredit everyone bringing up the fact that inferno is basically unautoable without Lily and SSania, because, according to you, "you cleared it" - you're either a retard trying to "brag" about winning the Pain Olympics of restarting for hours until you stole a win against inferno stages, or someone trying to poison the well, which one is it?

[graceful cradle]

that's fair lol i mean i had to mute them yesterday over some unhinged takes they were throwing out

[pure junco]

🤷‍♂️ Welcome to the Internet I suppose

[graceful cradle]

i'm drinking my first coffee still waking up til i do my commute in 45 mins

[pure junco]

I just work from home haha

[ruby canyon]

the dream, I get to wfh like 90% atp

[graceful cradle]

i wish, you hiring? LOL

sidenote it looks like union shop resets are stuck at 1m til refresh still

[pure junco]

Maybe we should all apply to XD since they seem to need it

😂

[ruby canyon]

no thanks I want job stability

[graceful cradle]

True i'll bring along my pocket translator friend

[graceful cradle]

💀

[ripe kraken]

If u guys go to XD u will be locked in their basement jail where chris is currently now

[graceful cradle]

tfw 100k coins for 50 gems actually feels like amazing value

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[ripe kraken]

[warped kestrel]

Maybe that's the goal. Next it'll be added to the shop.

[pure junco]

My AI Employees are employee of the month again

[pure junco]

Lol when it comes to that point, this becomes a little sad

[patent gate]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[ruby canyon]

flashbanged by a million rosas in union assist

[graceful cradle]

look i gotta build a new set for Cachi the Goat still

[pure junco]

Gotta get that immunity shot

[graceful cradle]

rip your red and green assists for coins

[ruby canyon]

good thing i got 4 blues

[graceful cradle]

LOL

[small knot]

Tbh the union assist thing feels like such a hassle

[pure junco]

That sounds nice compared to my guild almost never having red assists lol

[graceful cradle]

i wouldnt mind if it wasn't for the fact that one element is objectively farm more necessary than the others

[small knot]

Personally im always picking the color that has the least assist requests because if you don’t clear it in 1 day you basically lose a shard

But like real talk

[graceful cradle]

mhm lol

[small knot]

Once you get the 50 shards

The units probably not even that good anymore

[graceful cradle]

that's why it all goes into my goddess

i told everyone from the start she's the one

[ruby canyon]

im like 25 into tiamat im in too deep

can't pivot

[ripe kraken]

Another fellow tiamat enjoyer like me I see I do my hell 4 with her

[graceful cradle]

never pivot she'll be relevant for a long time

[small knot]

Bruiser meta will come next new unit surely

[graceful cradle]

it's already here

[ruby canyon]

shes my queen i got multiple WF clears with her over the whales

[ripe kraken]

Nerf rev and it's all bruisers

[pure junco]

Honestly my 6* Rosa would fit here too

[graceful cradle]

don't even need to

stack bloodbath and watch them cry

[small knot]

Does bloodbath proc from rev

[graceful cradle]

mhm

[small knot]

🤑

Good to know that after I recycled all of them for gold

[graceful cradle]

the guild tourney or whatever was a good showcase

Rev cheeser got slapped by a full bbath team

even ling on bbath

he was actually one of the prydwen team dudes i think he's 12th on ladder rn

[small knot]

I have 0 bloodbath sets so maybe in 5 months when I can farm inferno

[graceful cradle]

rn i have 2 but it's never enough

https://tenor.com/view/dj-never-enough-gif-10951076660053580158

[small knot]

Is bloodbath the new prot set

[graceful cradle]

yup p much

speaking of

hope you got prot and immu sets for days

or LTene gonna beat you up and steal your lunch money

[small knot]

I don’t play d7

Uninstalled for Lily restart

[graceful cradle]

well at least you don't have to worry about that

[graceful cradle]

tbh take my lily gimme ssania

[small knot]

I don’t have either

I can give you one of my celince

Or one of the 3 lingluo dupes I got

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-yugioh-abridged-ygotas-sassy-money-gif-5600859

[small knot]

LOL

https://tenor.com/view/tarjeta-de-credito-credit-card-gif-19426010

[graceful cradle]

actually tbf i pulled Celince early (she's best girl) and she made life easier

https://tenor.com/view/shenhe-credit-card-credit-card-meme-genshin-genshin-impact-gif-26048202

[coarse dirge]

i was almost having a little bit fun with the game again, but good thing the devs reminded me not to have fun when i wanted to do their threshold stage on inferno! thanks devs! i almost ruined my authentic etheria restart by having some fun

insane damage, stuns, action delay, def down, max hp decrease

[small knot]

I trashed celince

[coarse dirge]

these devs know how to cook the most enjoyable content

[small knot]

And then i 5* her for hoyan

But realized I don’t have gear for her anyways

[ripe kraken]

U want my 2 dupe lily and 1 dupe shadow sania?

[graceful cradle]

nah she was lowkey goat in beta but you didnt need her to clear then

now LOL it's a diff story

[graceful cradle]

nah i have lily and doki dupes but i'll take a SSania pls

[undone vortex]

should I contact the fun director

[graceful cradle]

then i can actually kill Terror and move on with life

[coarse dirge]

no its ok im having a terrible time again

playing the game as intended now!

[small knot]

If someone wants to give me veronika so I can clear terror with diting khloros comp

I’d be very happy

[warped kestrel]

Don't forget the high resist and their passive getting stronger to now the effects of CC only lasting for 2 turns

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/teen-titans-go-nofun-pop-balloon-gif-11338824

[warped kestrel]

They really know what it means to make fun, enjoyable content.

[graceful cradle]

i need khloros and vero

my only chance is that 20% hoyan comp and bruh ain't no way

[small knot]

I’m not building hoyan

[ripe kraken]

Watch next patch they shadow buff aurora again and doki

[small knot]

I don’t like her

[undone vortex]

my favorite part is astarte phase 2 stun roulette

[graceful cradle]

she's good for GW and anti Rev cheese

[undone vortex]

when my healer gets thundermark dispelled and the immunity thanosed

[graceful cradle]

outside of that though she just eats resources

[undone vortex]

🤪

[graceful cradle]

did you see the guy who wiped at like 2% cuz lightning stunned Massiah

[small knot]

Hoyan!

[undone vortex]

oof

[graceful cradle]

i couldn't even laugh i legit wanted to jump out a window for that guy

[small knot]

And I heard she kills the dmg red on dokidoki

[undone vortex]

that's hella rough

[small knot]

But don’t take my word for it

[undone vortex]

Ive been close with hard astarte but then my DPS gets screwed over at the end

[warped kestrel]

50% chance of getting a turn, 50% chance of being continuously stunned on all characters for 8 turns in a row until all my characters die

Brilliant design

[undone vortex]

and I'm like nty

[small knot]

Don’t forget guys there’s people out there pushing for ember trek to refresh faster!

[undone vortex]

maybe I don't need the yellow lettuce from Hoyan in floor 42

[graceful cradle]

yeah fuck em

no thanks to that

[small knot]

You definitely won’t be able to clear ember trek with 1 week less time

Unless you don’t have a job

[graceful cradle]

it's all those people who don't work and no life like 5 genshin accts man

[undone vortex]

idk why the ember trek bosses are either hard as balls or ezpz

nothing in between

[small knot]

Real

[graceful cradle]

tbf that should be the hard content

[undone vortex]

Whitney, Fabian, rengo or hella ez

[small knot]

Hard

[undone vortex]

but then u got astarte and apate

[small knot]

Not rng

[graceful cradle]

but my issue is like why is gearing the most painful shit in this game

[small knot]

Ember trek should not rely on rng to artificially create difficulty

[half lodge]

I mean you know why but still due to balance

[graceful cradle]

i can't even fault them they ripped that 100% out of the E7 handbook

[undone vortex]

ik she gets flack but I think ember Sharon is pretty fair difficulty wise

[small knot]

True

[graceful cradle]

players too good at solving endgame pve; throw some rng bullshit into it to make them struggle

[small knot]

But abyss doesn’t reset

[half lodge]

Zae i am unironically shocked how much 3 stars characs are actually okay

[undone vortex]

astarte is just restart simulator to avoid the purple summon

[small knot]

I could restart abyss all day long and not gaf because it’s 1 time clear

[graceful cradle]

daily reminder that constellation bosses are dumb for no reason lol

[undone vortex]

and pray u don't get dispelled and stunned in phase 2

[graceful cradle]

one of the best knights in the game is the MC

and a 3* is a very very good hypercarry for RTA

[small knot]

I wouldn’t know because I stopped playing before they came out

[graceful cradle]

yeah it's brand new this month

[half lodge]

I Sas a tier list and Saw one 3 star in a tier on pvp

[small knot]

Aras shield is goated

[half lodge]

I was shocked tbh

[graceful cradle]

ARas is back in style

[graceful cradle]

There's a couple for sure just careful for tierlists since they are all for endgame RTA

[warped dune]

Emotionaly loaded fluffy balls like you are the reason, why we cant demand them to nerf revelation anymore. Also calling me a retard is not nice, thus i block you because i dont want to deal with people like you.

[small knot]

A lot of low rarity are actually good for pve and some are even good in pvp and gvg

[graceful cradle]

a lot of the 3*s have good value for new accts

[small knot]

If only that were true in Etheria

[graceful cradle]

sec lemme show you what i sent some friends a few months back

[small knot]

Who wants to test Andrew in place of Holden

[undone vortex]

vice slander

smh

[small knot]

Ok

Now name all the other r rarity animus that are op in inferno

[undone vortex]

me

[small knot]

[undone vortex]

well theres

[small knot]

Gagged

[undone vortex]

cachi and

cachi

and

cachi

[small knot]

[undone vortex]

vice whacks inferno shells

except Sharon cuz she's a whore

[small knot]

lol

[undone vortex]

rip no41

why they whack her

[small knot]

Ok it’s time for me to play P5X

[warped kestrel]

Keep bragging about stealing a win from an inferno stage without Lily/SSania after hours of restarting as if that was some sort of accomplishment. Actually mentally challenged behavior.

[small knot]

https://tenor.com/view/you'll-never-see-it-coming-surprise-you-never-see-it-coming-gif-1876074248957367486

[small knot]

Peak

Glad I feel no rush to clear content there because it’s pve

Oh wait I forgot it’s the same for Etheria

[undone vortex]

this is a good idea

[warped dune]

Hidden op kek

[graceful cradle]

@half lodge granted this doesn't have when i showed them all the f2p options on their accts too but yea

[small knot]

Just replace Holden with Andrew and then get another unit to debuff

[small knot]

Why is fcc not in tank

[graceful cradle]

they dont have fcc

[small knot]

No destina?

[graceful cradle]

yeah but Ruele Diene was better for RTA which was their focus

Destina was their banshee farmer on the free HP set

[small knot]

Really I like Destina more over ruele

Maybe that’s just me

[graceful cradle]

Ruele is better atm because of how aggro the meta was before Arunka

Now either is fine tbh

Honestly i would have said Elena over both if they had her

[small knot]

The real cleanser is djb

[graceful cradle]

Def didn't have him but i do xD

[small knot]

Djb is so cool

I love barrier inversion

[graceful cradle]

i'm a little slow but oh well

and i get to hear Matt Mercer all the time again

[small knot]

Me when prot set

[ruby canyon]

how u get that waist

asking for a friend

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/saitama-anime-sweat-squats-push-ups-gif-5533578

[graceful cradle]

true his stonks about to go up once LTene is uncaged

[small knot]

Tbh is it just me or is gckrau kinda mid

For rta at least

[graceful cradle]

i think he's still good at killing asflan and adin

also daily fk adin havers

[ruby canyon]

isnt adin a free unit

[graceful cradle]

not this one

[ruby canyon]

oh god there's more adins

[small knot]

New kid adin

[ruby canyon]

when I played it was light arowell/adin and c.lilias meta

[small knot]

That’s so old

[small knot]

Arowell

Savior adin

[graceful cradle]

yeah that was like 22? 23? meta

one of them

[small knot]

C Lilia’s still decent

[graceful cradle]

actually she's also about to be more decent

[small knot]

Vigor buff

Haha

Ice hwa

[graceful cradle]

both to enable Ice Bwa and because she can hold Sweet Miracle

[ruby canyon]

And gw meta was senya choux

[small knot]

All my homies hate sweet miracle

[graceful cradle]

oh geez i mean new gw meta still uses a choux

just not the terrorist

[small knot]

Senya is meta

Just not the one you’re thinking gn of

https://tenor.com/view/young-senya-epic-seven-gif-6513219245895717475

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/inting-int-league-of-legends-walter-white-meme-gif-25736197

[ruby canyon]

mayb its time to play e7 again

ER best e7 advertisement

[graceful cradle]

it really do be

https://tenor.com/view/boss-arunka-epic-seven-gif-632257589564031528

[fickle hare]

man aurora inferno is fuckin aids

[winter turtle]

ani freebies is there or not yet?

[open fable]

S1 Linglou max

NGL thats the answer

no matter what you want

[fickle hare]

yea i got it

s1 linglou

but im getting fucked

[open fable]

with cure set

[graceful cradle]

next week

[open fable]

270ish Ling 260ish Viper

[winter turtle]

guess i play silver blood for while

[open fable]

if lily you need to tune your dps to go after ling and viper KEWK

[open fable]

hows the game i saw some diabolitical art tho

[fickle hare]

yea i dont got lily tho :/

[open fable]

tsuki?

[fickle hare]

nope

[graceful cradle]

i'm just doing the pre prep work like rolling down the shop on my alt forever LOL

[open fable]

if not kazuya rev

sadly you need to build pve chara

we endgame pve

[winter turtle]

just start yesterday, it feel much better than etheria, more like afk arena.. cant said much since just play

[gilded mason]

@open fable every inferno is aids

[gilded mason]

Art is insane

[fickle hare]

true but aurora is different

[gilded mason]

Music is insane

Game is p2w

[pure junco]

I wonder if they expect you to play Holden and Hoyan together

[tired socket]

More like they sold a problem and its solution together

[pure junco]

Lmao

Savage

And Yeli is their answer to inferno

[open fable]

idk

[left snow]

kazuyo is good in pvp if you are referring to her

[open fable]

red kazu

[left snow]

oh

okay that one is garbo

🤣

[open fable]

nah she is pve

[pure junco]

When you start using AFK arena as a placeholder you know something is up

I understand why people love Fangus, after building him with Obol, it becomes funky seeing Ads go loopy

[undone vortex]

🤏

[winter turtle]

i play afk arena only like a month or 2.. so im not sure is there anything up

[pure junco]

I heard they reset your overall power every season or something

[open fable]

its like

Diablo 4

There is a base game

and there is a season

[winter turtle]

no idea,, disnt play like 2/3 yr

[open fable]

each season you whale to get to the top

then reset you whale on base to push

then new season and so forth

[pure junco]

Yeah when I learned that, I started thinking their devs must have played too much Diablo 😅

[winter turtle]

or is that new afk arena game?, not sure whats it call

[open fable]

i mean it was very fun at launch

[gilded mason]

Is she tho

[open fable]

then got stale

[gilded mason]

Mine is 4 5 5

[open fable]

after season 2

[pure junco]

Guess there's a reason why it's called AFK and not just arena. You're not expected to play lmao

[open fable]

its taking the chinese concept of livestreaming iirc

[pure junco]

😮‍💨 Probably for Aurora

[gilded mason]

Afk journey?

[winter turtle]

yea..

[gilded mason]

Afk journey p2w af

Its by lilith after all

Scum company

Their games are quality though

[undone vortex]

eggxactly

[pure junco]

All those Dolphins probably benefit just a little each season

[winter turtle]

longest game i play is japan browser game seasonal tho.. rest just returnee grab freebies💀

[pure junco]

Wasn't there a Torchlight for mobile? Kinda wonder how that went

[gilded mason]

Thats by XD games

Which made this game too lmao

[pure junco]

Go Go Muffin

[winter turtle]

i play that like 15 min before uninstall

[gilded mason]

Same

[pure junco]

Oh it's still active

They also got a MOBA called T3 Arena

[undone vortex]

would say the game is done

like they reached perfection

[open fable]

i guess perfection means EOS

[pure junco]

SoC is probably their best work

[ruby canyon]

do we seriously

have the exact same bosses

as last week

[gilded mason]

Thank you for your feedback, it's a mistake, the team will post a new one

[pure junco]

Lol

[gilded mason]

your voice heard and I will talk with our Wolf Director

[pure junco]

It'll probably change within a few weeks

[graceful juniper]

its swapped lmao...now the dark are coop,and green+light are select

last week its green coop,and dark+light can be choose

[open fable]

i still dont know what units are needed for this

all i know if dark you hit 1hiters

green you need strip

[pure junco]

Guess since this is basically damage check it probably isn't that off putting for some people

[graceful juniper]

light need strip too...more buff on light = more dmg
dark the more you hit him the more def it has
idk green

[graceful cradle]

i see the union shop reset is still bugged at 1min

[open fable]

refresh client

worked for me on union shop

[pure junco]

You need stripers and debuffwrs and buffers and shielders and sustainers and and and Lilyers and Klossers and Andrew

[undone vortex]

phantom theater is so boring

at least let me tab out

[graceful cradle]

zzz well then

[pure junco]

I maxed Fangus S3 it's a handy toolkit

Guess I'll focus on Holden for the next month

[gilded mason]

your voice heard and I will talk with our Handy Director

[pure junco]

The one that gifts 100 crystals or chat gpt who made the code

[graceful juniper]

this is a bait comment isnt it?

[ripe kraken]

Next few patches

[gilded mason]

Depends if you wanna give him the benefit of the doubt

[ripe kraken]

So like 6 months

[gilded mason]

What i surmise is that "we see what you're saying but we wanna wait a bit before changing anything because our profit hasnt shown a decline yet"

This is what i think he means

[ruby canyon]

I put viper w/ halloween and holden w/ codex with 270+ spd on light phantom boss I still cant take all of its buffs, that boss is dumb

[pure junco]

Seriously?

Lmao

[graceful juniper]

that boss need fkin heinrich

[ruby canyon]

nice more ld requirements

maybe yeli to steal buffs idk

[pure junco]

I swear these bosses are like this because they don't want you progressing fast

[graceful juniper]

yea the boss is really fast...its stack the buff faster than you remove them

[left snow]

im just doing 400-500 on that boss and calling it a day lol

green is easy so focusing on that boss is way better imo

oh wait green is not co op this week

[graceful juniper]

this is possible too....but they have decent resistance it seems....my xiada just rarely steal its buff

[left snow]

[ruby canyon]

yeah I'll try that

[pure junco]

Can't wait to see new boss that stun locks you into oblivion

[graceful juniper]

i dont think there is dog that stun...but i remember some dog boss that silence you lot of time

[left snow]

blue boss stuns

[main elm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1369791723697602650/1389205190455984263/image.png?ex=6863c5a7&is=68627427&hm=1fc3199a9f10578fa01319368744115cba2942f59cb639d29305efe5a8830d57&
I unravelled the secret of getting good score in Sharon, just use Tsuki on Sharon

[left snow]

but yeah i think this week the strat is getting super high on green boss

and also super high on co op dark boss

and calling it a day

[graceful juniper]

sadly i dont have red or green dps....fk,maybe diting is useable?

[ruby canyon]

yh just diting yeli for everything

as is customary

[left snow]

diting/yeli

[pure junco]

Good thing I invested in Chiaki's S1

[left snow]

yeli turned out to be just as good as mass in pvp btw

i was expecting mass to remain king in cleave teams

due to def ignore and passive

but she is actually outpacing mass vs anything else but rahu & holden

[pure junco]

And isn't that funny?

People was saying she's useless in PvP

[left snow]

like yeli is better vs most tank down teams

since tiamat stacks hp not DEF

and def ignore is less useful vs massive dps of yeli

she 1 taps tiamat lol

[left snow]

i was saying she was going to be a close 2nd to mass in cleave teams

useless in most other meta teams

[pure junco]

Yeah he is

[graceful juniper]

I will give that guy a chance

[pure junco]

Imagine having a DPS for every element

[main elm]

there isn't alot of nuke DPS in the game atm, u offset most of DPS with revelation

the 3 I can think of atm are Rosa Messiah Yeli

[left snow]

yeah and before yeli release cleave was very unpopular due to lack of dps choices

[pure junco]

That's why in a year everything said here could potentially be irrelevant, assuming something happens anyway

[main elm]

these are ur usual 1 taps with revelation, though Messiah is weakiest among these 3 if u using Revelation

[left snow]

with mass pre bans you could pretty much shut fown cleave entirely

[left snow]

he outpaces rosa by a decent margin due to his def and pass ignore still vs most teams

too many rahu's and holdens around

[main elm]

Rosa always follow up after her S3 while revelation still active

[pure junco]

The Rahu abuse is funny

[left snow]

only vs 1 guy

[main elm]

it really shreds anything she wants to kill, no one can survive Rosa S3 with revelation after the S1 follow up

coz that S1 also has revelation buff

unless she S3 into immunity, then she can't follow up

[pure junco]

If we got more ignore defense and attack down units you'll probably have to stun+silence often, run speed crit builds that capitalize off winning before your opponent could shred your party

[main elm]

Messiah is badly released, his kit is way too advanced to the current simple meta

units like him should be released once there is a well established PvP meta

[pure junco]

Have you fought a maxed out Massiah before?

[main elm]

ignore def ignore passive is waaaay too strong, and it's not utilized yet coz what is defense ? what is passive ?

[left snow]

i think current state of meta is fine

there are 4 different teams that are good

could use more obviously

[ruby canyon]

rc77 is a 128 base spd unit with atk/def down, stun, 4 hit (3 of it aoe) for rev, wouldnt be surprised if he sees use soon

[left snow]

he is an extremely common opener

in high elo

him and yang

[ruby canyon]

nice nice

[pure junco]

Yang is pretty good

[main elm]

I'm top 100 in arena, anything go 1st kills u, Messiah/Rosa/Yeli, even Freya matched with Hein/Kaz with revelation u die from those aswell

[left snow]

sounds like etherena

not rta

top 100 rta is like 80% tank teams

[pure junco]

The Rev abuse doesn't stop huh

[left snow]

same with the ews tournament actually, most people are playing tank team

from what danehar told me

[main elm]

yes arena, RTA atm is ignored by 90% of the playerbase even more due how how much the PvE takes of ur time and gear

[pure junco]

It's going to be a boring tournament

[main elm]

I just do RTA to cap my 2000 and call it a day

[pure junco]

People having the same teams

[left snow]

i get that but tank down is probably the strongest pvp team atm

hence why its the most popular

you have way too many pick options

unlike other teams that are running dry of choices

[ruby canyon]

it's easier to build bloodbath than 330+ spd

[left snow]

pre ban massiah and you are good

[left snow]

yep

also pre banning massiah makes tank teams a lot stronger

[pure junco]

True that

[main elm]

It is since u can basically ban ur DPS threat, how can u kill tank down teams with that, u can only have a chance to 3rd pick ur DPS that if it's already prebanned

[tribal osprey]

Duh. Remember when people said yeli was bad?

[ruby canyon]

was just one guy

[left snow]

who said this btw ?

nameless also told me that

[ruby canyon]

think most of us knew even then that yeli was gna be top 1 dps in pve and pvp

[main elm]

normally, everyone have 2 well invested DPS

[left snow]

but i havent seen anybody saying rhat lol

[pure junco]

[tired socket]

Theres a whole thread of whales complaining about her

[main elm]

3 well invested DPS is way too rare, if u find someone with 3 invested DPS he prob top 5 in PvE

[tired socket]

[left snow]

yep thats true

[main elm]

I do have 3 well invested DPS, but that made me top 5 PvE

[pure junco]

They want her to power through everything

[left snow]

but as of now outside of yeli and massiah

it is insnely hard to shut down tank teams with dps

unless rev abuse

[ruby canyon]

you dont need 3 dps for anything but cage

[left snow]

i get cringed in rta sometimes when i play people who know me

they pre ban my tsukiyomi

first pick my dps

and im just sitting there

🤣

[main elm]

kind of, I'm not using Yeli alot even though she is stacked

[tribal osprey]

I believe @main elm was one of them saying how yeli is only pve dps and how messiah shits all over her

[main elm]

prob gonna try her PvP instead of Rosa

[left snow]

oh

lol

massiah is better vs rahu's and holdens but worse vs pretty much anything else

but to his credit

[pure junco]

Can you imagine that one guy working so hard for a full team of DPS then finds out how bad his position is

[left snow]

rahu and holden are insanely common

[main elm]

yes her kit is too simple, right now any DPS kinda works, Messiah is more or less future proof, Yeli isn't

ignore def/ignore passive is too strong

[left snow]

well we will see what the future holds

meta constantly changes

and you dont use massiah or yeli outside of cleave

[ruby canyon]

I finished anisync, embertrek, rally last reset with only diting dps

[pure junco]

True, they may just release another Massiah with a better kit

[main elm]

nah, releasing more DPS is just stupid atm

[tired socket]

Ahh i need to do 24 astartes today

[left snow]

i just gave up on ember trek

[main elm]

next ML should be a tank or a support, but most likely tank, coz there is only 1 real tank in PvP aka Tiamat

[left snow]

i couldnt disagree more

rahu and holden are very good

you even see lilith in tank teams and borgne

tank team has more damage options than any other team

[pure junco]

Even Rahu went through the "this unit is bad phase"

[main elm]

Tank doesn't mean someone that can self sustain, a tank with utility to protect team

[left snow]

holden has ATK down on entire enemy + dispel

that is pretty good utility to protect team

also prime user of artisan

[main elm]

if ur tank team and u went 1st it's gg no ?

that if he actually go and do his stuff

[tired socket]

And 100% turn meter - CD up

Holden kinda wild in pvp

Ngl

[main elm]

Holden indeed strong

[ruby canyon]

yh you still want to try to go first even in tank comp

[main elm]

powerhouse

It's weird that he has like 0 cons

[left snow]

i think the #1 prio is

having more swiftsmite options in shells

because as of now

[tired socket]

He couldve been LD and i wouldnt question it by his kit

[left snow]

you use dps shells on supports

[tired socket]

Lmaoo

[left snow]

due to swiftraid

like its stupid

[ruby canyon]

yeah

[left snow]

why doesnt gigabyte have swiftsmite

[main elm]

well nobody can farm fucking Rengo

[left snow]

why am i running rev or whitefang on my supports

[pure junco]

The lack of gold lattices makes more sense when you realize if you're able to max more characters with skills like that, it'll turn into a meme

[main elm]

I'm stuck with niconana and Hoyan

[tired socket]

[left snow]

jackal guard is amazing btw

[tired socket]

Not wrong

[ruby canyon]

need more of these

[left snow]

best shell for cleave supports

it can drop swiftrush + swiftsmite

and shell passsive deals insane damage

but i dont have a single 1 with swiftsmite

[main elm]

jackal guard is dogshit, literally every opener give speed boost to team, why use him over literally any other shell ?

[left snow]

swiftsmite + big damage

[main elm]

use alicorn

[left snow]

alicorn does nothing for cleave teams

like literally nothing

jackal guard at leasat does damage

[main elm]

a small spit

[left snow]

and its good damage

[main elm]

is damage ?

[left snow]

its actually good

[ruby canyon]

it's like 9k

[left snow]

9k may be bad in pve

but its very respectable in pvp

[ruby canyon]

no i'm saying it's good

[left snow]

yeah its great

[main elm]

I'm just gonna wait rengo nerf so I can farm codex

jackal is a waste of shell imo

[left snow]

agreed if you arent playing cleave

its kinda shit

[tired socket]

Just have to perform a sacrifice ritual in order for them to nerf anything

[pure junco]

Doesn't Alicorn look like some hidden Mega Digivolution from Digimon 😅 now that I think about it...

[ruby canyon]

if you have a character with good s2 and s3, jackal 25% advance is great

[main elm]

just use whitefang for now really

[left snow]

best lily build

[main elm]

everyone in whitefang

even me

[pure junco]

That's a fast lily

[left snow]

its for etherena

i only have 1 330+ for rta

and its not lily

why gear lily if she is perma banned

[pure junco]

Oh well the copium is

[main elm]

it's on lvl 1 and prolly gonna stay that way

coz this one is more usable, it's on holden

[left snow]

eh

[main elm]

also

[left snow]

i would take the jackal

i play cleave

[left snow]

wow

i didnt know amber dropped swiftsmite

thats wild

okay that actually changes my opinion on it

[main elm]

that Amber on Holden gonna be great ngl

[left snow]

amber on tiamat is the most cringe thing ive played against

amber + sania on team is

💀

[main elm]

Jackal = waste of resource, literally every opener has speed up, the damage is negligible who goes 1st wins anyways in cleaves

[tired socket]

It also gives turn meter advance tho

[left snow]

thing is cleave is very unpopular from my experience

[main elm]

It's already over

[left snow]

and damage is helpful vs tank teams

[pure junco]

There's definitely someone who farmed a good number of those

[tired socket]

I have one and thats enough

[left snow]

i have none with swiftsmite

and i probably dumped like 10k stamina on hoyan

[main elm]

I did, but I used my resources in an actual MORE useful shells

revelation and artisan gaming = PvE solved

[pure junco]

Nice

[main elm]

also cheese PvP with multi revelations

specially RTA

[pure junco]

Lmao

[pure junco]

Rev abuse is the way

[main elm]

would u invest in jackal over gigabite

I won't

would never actually

[left snow]

i think you are severely oversimplfiying things

[pure junco]

Giga isn't a bad investment for PvP

[main elm]

giga is good in both PvP and PvE

[main elm]

if I'm cleaving it's very simple

use anything so u go 1st

if u did it's over

why invest into something to go 1st when I already have it, a white fang or pretty much anything else with speed + 6/6 speed givers

[ruby canyon]

I just invest in both gigabyte and jackal.. if I get a god roll 3x3 on either I can just imprint it

[left snow]

i think your perspective will change when you face more tank teams

additional damage on jackal guard really helps

or would help if i had 1

[main elm]

I do have a jackal, I will only use it if I have purple set with more speed than my current blue 6/6 set

and tbf, Aurora farming isn't worth it, takes too much time

I can't finish my 1000 stamina if I want to farm Aurora

[ruby canyon]

aurora is like 1:50 on auto

dont you have invested rosa or yeli

[left snow]

i still cant auto aurora

i might need to max linglou s1

[main elm]

yeah, my runs are 2-3 auto, and it's 80% consistent, not worth

[ruby canyon]

yh you do need that

[left snow]

was hoping to get away with red chiaki + lingluo

and save 4 lattices

hasnt worked so far

[ruby canyon]

yeah I dont see it as saving cause I use ling so much

[main elm]

Jackal is best support shell if ur team doesn't have speed up buffer

[ruby canyon]

but if she's an aurora bot it's harder to justify

[left snow]

need to max a fortismo so i can try supernova in lingluo and fortismo on chiaki

[left snow]

i think if i maxed lingluo i could also clear ember trek

so maybe its worth

[ruby canyon]

fortissimo on ling is nice actually, the heal purifies and procs her whale buff

[left snow]

hm could also try fortisma on ling and supernova on chiaki

[main elm]

supernova kinda irreplacable for aurora, but that shell is so shit it only works in literally 1 content aka Aurora

[ruby canyon]

ember trek gives lattices so it's kind of a return on investment

[left snow]

im trying viper-chiaki-lingluo-yeli-lily

[scarlet quartz]

do we make

bingo boards

for the next patch

or what

[scarlet quartz]

Man

this thread

really has become my home

[main elm]

Yeli vs Rosa

https://tenor.com/view/same-gif-8650053

Rosa has worse gear too since she is on momentum

[ruby canyon]

juiced sania with gigabyte and s1 max is kinda crazy btw

[main elm]

yeli onslaught

[left snow]

finally raising massiah

gotta go fast