inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[outer falcon]

That's me in SlowkiSlowki inferno for the last like 4 days

[chilly iron]

This thread need 100 more message for 40k

[warped kestrel]

I can't auto Doki inferno with a high WR with my Rilmocha since I don't have a Kloss, so I'm not even bothering with it anymore, this is a fucking auto game

[tribal osprey]

Don't let the white knights know

[warped dune]

run gray and win

[warped kestrel]

Doesn't work with codex, so there's a ton of RNG involved

With Kloss there would be very little RNG, since everything would happen before anything moves

With Gray, they have to survive multiple rounds of enemies moving, creating a trillion different RNG factors

[tribal osprey]

You could try Dinah if she moves before the ads

[warped dune]

run linglou valerian gray mocha kazuyo

[half lodge]

Do you understand concept of investing into characters?

I think not

[warped kestrel]

I've been thinking about this a lot, I'm just not that confident that it'll work considering that Eff Res is already such a big problem, having that wrong affinity EffAcc penalty will probably complicate things further

[half lodge]

Your advice would be only beneficial if building characters wouldnt take do long

[warped kestrel]

But yeah, if this is going to work without Kloss, I think Dinah is the way

[tribal osprey]

Yep I've been investing in Dinah since no kloss

[ruby canyon]

without kloss just stack revelations

[tribal osprey]

[warped dune]

what you mean, its not like he never played dokidoki before, he should have units build already

[warped kestrel]

One on Freya, one on Kaz - who else?

[ruby canyon]

celince rosa xiada prob the best ones

[warped kestrel]

Have only Xiada out of those

I'm unsure of those 3 revs will be enough

Guess I'll try that if I get desperate enough

[ruby canyon]

you can run rc77 but you'd need to one shot

he has 128 base spd and 3 hit aoe + atk/def break

[warped kestrel]

It also just feels like a waste to skill up Xiada when I already have a S3 max Rilmocha

[ruby canyon]

if you have xiada you can just run more sustain and let her carry surely

[warped kestrel]

I feel like I need to make Rilmocha work at this point

[ruby canyon]

oh you have ril built

[tribal osprey]

Apparently no one is able to clear inferno in one month but if they are then I shouldn't care man that's crazy

[pallid rose]

40k comments. Here we go

[mental mural]

Ugly clown

"Speed is key" 🤡

[small knot]

God I hate this stupid ass hsr event

Why does hyv decide that every patch in every single one of their mainstream games has to have a dmg check event

[indigo oyster]

yall, did he cook or nah

[open fable]

sounds familiar

[small knot]

Also what’d I miss while I was gone

[open fable]

wait is that real

[indigo oyster]

yes https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1388869968476504114

[small knot]

It’s cooked cus they keep saying they’re discussing

But who’s to say they aren’t just having an orgy while the ai continues to mess up the code for Etheria

[open fable]

on another note are you duckky in global?

[indigo oyster]

nope, im on asia

[open fable]

Ah

oh well

[small knot]

Expose Etheria devs for what they’re really are

Scammers

Fraudsters

[subtle crag]

[small knot]

https://tenor.com/view/momonga-tweaking-chiikawa-shaking-covering-ears-gif-7797609015429508

Me when I don’t have lily

[outer falcon]

I see event difficulty defender Flame in seii's tourney stream

Glad to see people doing serious work with my girl Lilith

It's crazy that they combined Seara and the occult girl family from SW into one unit

[warped kestrel]

120m damage
Last time I played HSR we were doing like 500k or so dmg and that was very high dmg

Power creep hasn't slowed down huh

[indigo oyster]

its and event, in reality u barely break 500k dmg w new unit

[ruby canyon]

it's a roguelike event with crazy modifiers

[indigo oyster]

i cant do this rotation floor 12 MoC, too much of a hassel not having the correct unit

[tribal osprey]

Who?

[outer falcon]

I'm not gonna tag him and get the thread spammed up

[tribal osprey]

Power creep is both happening and non existent simultaneously

[warped kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[ruby canyon]

im pretty sure you can just auto it with the trial characters they give you

it's not as bad as cage event we have

[mental mural]

Wrong server

[mental mural]

He cooked
@shadow hornet I have faith in you

[inland warren]

Next few patches... when?

[neon girder]

I think this is doomed, people who started with ssania/lily have in the minimum 2 months head start in farming 80% of inferno stuff, maybe more time if there is no fix

this is a lot

[inland warren]

If they are going to improve resource income i might aswell stop refreshing

Time to hoard stabilizers

[scarlet quartz]

Oh we are in the permanent state of being scared to invest anything again

what will they change? who knows - when will they do it? who knows

[gaunt owl]

I have ssania and lily (rerolled for it) but frankly, I'm just finding it all pretty boring, no matter which characters I get. I think maybe everything is just too linear for me. :/

[outer falcon]

Dawg I'm still not fully skilling my Xiada

I don't trust them to only touch Rev in arena

[open fable]

i mean

ews

everyone using revelation

KEWK

7 REVELATIONS

[tribal osprey]

Wait... Does codex get reset by lily still?

[open fable]

ICANT

[inland warren]

It shouldnt. On the descriptjon it said that the cooldown cannot be reduced

[tribal osprey]

Well it did for me

[inland warren]

Then it's bugged

[tribal osprey]

I could use obol twice after

[gaunt owl]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[tribal osprey]

Ah no critical bug fix incoming

[inland warren]

No rumors

[tribal osprey]

Wait a min maybe since it's being reset it's not reducing

[inland warren]

I mean... technically....

[clever swan]

does this team work for you btw

[tribal osprey]

Yeah

Need manual

[clever swan]

sadge

[indigo oyster]

better be next week or we riot

[chilly iron]

He is going crazy in chat

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097

[indigo oyster]

i also cant play rta, i intentionally drop rank to match w bot to gain the arena currency

[chilly iron]

I have 1500 arena coin to get I should do that too

[tribal osprey]

I guess people are spamming hoyan and doki

So I should too

[indigo oyster]

i rather stay in bronze-gold just to get the weekly

[inland warren]

Coping

[inland warren]

Same thing im doing 🤣

[chilly iron]

Tell me how to drop point fast

[indigo oyster]

match and leave lol

[white veldt]

I love 4% droprates on 3/3/3 shells

maybe 5%

12000 stamina per correct shell, yippie, on avg

[indigo oyster]

5% of correct shell drop w the right matrix or 5% of inferno shell overall

[white veldt]

5% of any 3/3/3

so divide by 4 if you want a specific shell

[indigo oyster]

because i think i got like avg of 8-12 max refreshing

[white veldt]

then divide by 30 if you want a specific matrix combination

[inland warren]

🤣

[indigo oyster]

needle in a sea ahh

[white veldt]

im keeping stats so maybe the odds turn out to be like 6% over time but ehh... with 4 shells per boss. and 30 combinations of matrixes... yeah...

[inland warren]

Just get in and exit immediately during picks

[inland warren]

Tbh i think i've got more than that

All shit... but definitely more than 4

[chilly iron]

How many points I will drop in 1 loss

[inland warren]

I think 20

[indigo oyster]

depend on ur current rank

[inland warren]

I was losing 20 every match

[chilly iron]

I am 2000 currently

[indigo oyster]

20 then

i just know once u win you get like 60-80 lol

in silver-gold at least

[chilly iron]

So we have to maintain the rato of 1 w and 3 loss

[white veldt]

I have 44 inferno shells
ive been doing exclusively inferno shell farming for 7 days now aka 10400+ stamina

so ya know...

4-5% drop rate

[soft nexus]

etheria listens to players

Lmao

[white veldt]

Exactly! your voice matters a lot in Etheria

[open fable]

Exactly! your voice matters a lot in Etheria

[inland warren]

I'm not entirely sure if it's bad or not.. like right now we need to build a lot of units, so it feels low as fuck

But if you build a character a month let's say, it is in line

Actually thinking about it, ine character a month is fucking cringe

[open fable]

So to build 15 units for Cage we need 1 year and uh 3months

Give or take

Specifically only focusing on shells btw

[scarlet quartz]

Just imagine he wasnt refreshing

and u have your answer for if its bad or not

[tacit ingot]

so only 15 months to build three teams for that new 3-team event?

[scarlet quartz]

especially cause the content is so hard

that u need to hit the perfect set + 6 piece module

for them to even do their job

So you are not just taking 1 month to get 1 perfect build u need 1 month to potentially get yourself out of a content lock

[white veldt]

its 19 days on average per specific shell you want if youre not buying stamina

thats your entire month gone to just shell farming for 2 new characters

gl if you wanna also get xp, gp outpost or modules

and thats avg. you could get unlucky

[inland warren]

Will see what they do. I mean i do want to get more sfuff for sure

If they do anything at all

[white veldt]

if inferno didnt take 3h out of my day...

maybe id be less upset about it

[tribal osprey]

No rumors please!

[tacit ingot]

"you just need to appreciate working toward something"

[white veldt]

remember kids
gamble towards your goals

[inland warren]

What else you got to do?

Just play 8hrs a day

[white veldt]

a job

[inland warren]

And when you cant clear stuff, you just rage pull

[inland warren]

Boo

[white veldt]

aint spending money on a game that doesnt have a f2p playerbase

spenders want people to be beat down on

whats the point of spending if the only other players are also spenders

games need a f2p playerbase for whales to feel accomplished

[inland warren]

Valid

[white veldt]

thats been the business model of mobile games for years

a healthy sized playerbase to create a community that whales can beat by spending

[inland warren]

Yeah actually i feel like there arent many f2p in this game

[white veldt]

if its just 2000 whales the game will still die fast af

so I aint spending any more till they nerf inferno for the f2p to enjoy the game

[inland warren]

They all quit and went playing persona

[indigo oyster]

nerf by 50% please

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[inland warren]

Btw they said that they will re-do reset event

[indigo oyster]

where

[inland warren]

Cant wait to reset that trash can of hoyan

[inland warren]

Somewhere in ask staff channel

[indigo oyster]

i dont even know what unit im gonna reset😂

[inland warren]

Oh i know a couple. And if i happen to find lily, i also know a third

[open fable]

im reseting rahu

[indigo oyster]

i am currently debating targeting rosa or celince

[open fable]

and maybe rosa for yeli

[inland warren]

Oof that's a doodoo

[indigo oyster]

or maybe even mia to use my lattice on

[open fable]

im lowkey thinking of 6staring viper for auto aurora

but gona s5 ling s1 and see if i cant auto her

[indigo oyster]

good idea

what skill to max on viper

im also building him

[open fable]

3 and 2

[indigo oyster]

no 1?

[open fable]

you want the counter and strip cd reduction

i mean s1 gives you faster proc on s3 but s2 allows your less geared units to survive

[indigo oyster]

aight and him of jackle and 3 eff acc

i assume

but 75%/65%chance to hit w just 100% acc would be enuf no?

[inland warren]

I have viper maxed and lingluo s1 at max and cant even get close to clear aurora

Because i dont have the right dps 🫠

[scarlet quartz]

No Rosa or Xiada ff

Yeli should work?

[inland warren]

I have xiada, but she doesnt deal enough dmg

[scarlet quartz]

S2 S3 maxed?

[inland warren]

Yes

[scarlet quartz]

then its a gear diff not unit diff

[inland warren]

Dont you need lily for that?

[scarlet quartz]

ah

[inland warren]

All xiada teams i saw have lily

[scarlet quartz]

your account didnt spawn with lily?

idk how to tell u this....

[inland warren]

No

[scarlet quartz]

my bad then

i forgot that she is required too

happens when she is on literally every team

[inland warren]

Where isnt she?

[scarlet quartz]

ye that's why

every 5 man mode

is a 4 man mode +1 lily

realistically

[inland warren]

I was thinking about building tsukiyo to compensate for being a piece of trash human by not having lily

[scarlet quartz]

u can do that

100%

wait

this is a guildie of mine

now i think it should work with xiada as well

[open fable]

i thought doki doki is bid for xiada?

but doki needs fully max tho

bis*

[inland warren]

My doki is s2 and s3 maxed

I still cant clear

[scarlet quartz]

oh u have doki

hmm

[inland warren]

Like... not even close

[scarlet quartz]

Lingluo S1 maxed i assume?

[inland warren]

Yes

[scarlet quartz]

Well then the answer is obvious

just farm shells until e7 anniversary and forget about the game

[inland warren]

Surely my gear isnt the BEST but it's not bad by any means

[red portal]

Any chance to beat rengoku inferno without kloss? But have lily..

[scarlet quartz]

oh that shit is horsecock

[inland warren]

I guess this is not good enough

[scarlet quartz]

respectfully

LOL

[inland warren]

Lmao

What more do i need? I guess crit dmg, but it would reduce my atk which i need for revelation

[ruby canyon]

if you're on rev it's not that bad

[inland warren]

Yeah i'm using revelation

[scarlet quartz]

can u copy?

shit's gonna take 20 mins but it looks stable enough

[inland warren]

Yeah. Would just need to build mia

How much invested is that mia

[scarlet quartz]

5 starred basically

[ruby canyon]

are you trying to do lilyless aurora auto?

[inland warren]

Yes 🤣

[scarlet quartz]

DONT TELL HIM

D:

[inland warren]

I mean... i'm not trying

[ruby canyon]

you 100% need viper then on 260 spd

[mental mural]

Nerfs again?

[scarlet quartz]

We dont know

[inland warren]

I miss 2 speed then? Lol

[ruby canyon]

nah 258 should be fine

[inland warren]

My viper has all skills maxed too

[scarlet quartz]

we could see some changes

[ruby canyon]

it just needs to line up with the add

[scarlet quartz]

in the next FEW patches

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1388869968476504114

[ruby canyon]

with gigabyte you need less but it messes up the timing sometimes

[inland warren]

I have artisan on mine

But if 258 is enough...

[ruby canyon]

you can try... I run 258 with jackal guard and it's barely enough sometimes

[inland warren]

What team are you using?

[ruby canyon]

well i have lily so i do sub 2 min runs

[inland warren]

For lining up, you mean going right after them, right?

[ruby canyon]

yes

[inland warren]

Then it's useless... 🥲

[ruby canyon]

not rly I use lily on my dps

so it doesnt affect surviving

[inland warren]

Yeah but it does for dmg

Quite a lot too

[ruby canyon]

my first run was literally 12 min speed doesnt matter on aurora

I've had success with red chiaki + lingluo

no lily

mia would be better but dont have her

[inland warren]

At the moment i'm farming nico nana to get a white fang for diting

I guess that by the time i'll get that shell, aurora will be nerfed

Copium

[open fable]

20% hp nerf pls

[scarlet quartz]

where u the first aurora inferno clear

that poor 12 min bastard

[ruby canyon]

yeah they've been really quick and in touch with the community so far

[scarlet quartz]

please no rumors

[ruby canyon]

i had yellow shells with blue rolls

tiamat dps

[inland warren]

Lol

These farming stages require too much thinking for my taste

I should go in and rape aurora with my shit unit to make them better

Then curse at astarte in ember

[open fable]

*cause your not suppose to clear endgame in 4weeks into the game

i alt f4 the gme on astarte hard

[inland warren]

I refused to try any more astarte hard. Fuck that

[open fable]

took me 2 hours and she decided to go reason and 1 shot my team on p3

[ruby canyon]

lol

[indigo oyster]

i beat her today, w lily

[inland warren]

Filthy abuser

[ruby canyon]

do y'all use viper on astarte, I dont remember it being too hard

[jade edge]

Yes

[inland warren]

I did, still got oneshot by her first skill

I literally cant get past her first skill

🤣

[open fable]

first phase?

or 3rd?

[inland warren]

Even with viper which should help

[ruby canyon]

I guess tiamat superiority

[inland warren]

The first lmao

[open fable]

ah

[inland warren]

That's what is sad

[open fable]

diting?

[indigo oyster]

i use xiada/lily/kloss or freya/vice/lingluo to beat her

[inland warren]

I tried all. Xiada, diting

[open fable]

vice?

[inland warren]

Aswell

[open fable]

atk down before she moves

[ruby canyon]

vice is huge for bosses

[inland warren]

No luck

[indigo oyster]

vice is so huge on 1st and 3rd phase

[open fable]

need good gears tho

[ruby canyon]

kloss+vice would be even better than viper cause you still get atk/spd down but also taunts,heals and dmg down from kloss

[open fable]

Unless she turns into red form with 45% cdmg and 1shots vice

[inland warren]

This is mine, but i guess not fast enough

[indigo oyster]

keep taunting, only rng in 3rd is u losing taunt

[ruby canyon]

do you have doki

[indigo oyster]

altho the 1st buff on her also matter

[indigo oyster]

mine is slower than yours

but i guesss i have lily

[open fable]

i mean she turned into red color and she just 1 tap him while taunted btw

[inland warren]

Yeah, my team was xiada, doki, viper, ling, vice

Or diting instead of xiada

I get oneshot on the first skill she does 🤣

[open fable]

granted he was 5* kewk

[indigo oyster]

oh, well gotta save ur freya second skill xDD

[open fable]

i give him benefitof doubt

[ruby canyon]

I did use sania for astarte, give everyone 40% max hp over the course of wave1+2 helps so much with phase 3

[inland warren]

Dont have her built and dont really want to invest any resource into her

[ruby canyon]

big boy vice

[scarlet quartz]

[open fable]

i am already out of juice cause i decided to push cage event

[ruby canyon]

what're you pushing cage for, to go from 2400 to 2700?

[open fable]

3k

i am at 2.9kish

rank 7 in global last i checked

might have dropped

[left snow]

holy

[ruby canyon]

its like 15 lattice shards isnt it

[indigo oyster]

damn

wat da team

[left snow]

dd jack give you that vice

[indigo oyster]

i can only 1700

[ruby canyon]

yh im stuck at 2.5k cause i only have 2 dps, tiamat doesnt count

trying to build yeli next

[open fable]

prob need to work on niconana team

[indigo oyster]

does this mean i need to pull rosa

[inland warren]

I just tried. The adds bring my dps to half hp, then astarte fishes the job

[open fable]

rosa or yeli works on team 3

tbh if your gears are decent you dont need sustain

[inland warren]

It's just not clearable for me unfortunately

[open fable]

1.2k w/o sustain

[indigo oyster]

because my xiada do jackshit dmg

she on momentum fury kekewwww

and only +2k atk lol

[open fable]

oh wait i am at 2.8k

hmm

[indigo oyster]

more atk is better for rev

[open fable]

lowkey thinking of going onslaught for my rev build

[indigo oyster]

but mine dont

[open fable]

instead of momentum

[indigo oyster]

yeah im currently farming rev for momentum/onslaught or onslaught/fury
in hell not inferno

[ruby canyon]

i just need a rengo auto team that boss is aids

[open fable]

Kloss Lily Vale Diting

10% wr

KEWK

[indigo oyster]

what about hoyan w/o dot or celince

😭

[open fable]

i never tried

[ruby canyon]

i use obol, he's dot tho

[open fable]

i am doing the 3 man dot

can only give you the speed setup for it

[indigo oyster]

problem is i cna built obol but not fangus

no lattice

[open fable]

i mean you can

[ruby canyon]

im taking break from hoyan cause i have 3 decent revs now

[open fable]

do 250 obol

[ruby canyon]

2 furyedge 1 swiftraid

[open fable]

with codex

so he stuns the adds for 2 turns

that gives your other 3 man 2 turns to kill hoyan no?

[indigo oyster]

but what's the team

obol/lily?/who/who?

[open fable]

out of stam cant test XDD

[ruby canyon]

you want manual or auto, cuz auto is slow as hell

[indigo oyster]

auto

[ruby canyon]

auto you put hoyan last in attack order

[indigo oyster]

if manual i can use kazuyo xDD

[ruby canyon]

and run obol lily double sustain

its 5 min runs...

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[ruby canyon]

I only did it when i took extended breaks/went to bed

just put on 8x

[indigo oyster]

i dont even know if i can achieve 250 speed on him

[ruby canyon]

mines like 210 i aint givin him shit

[indigo oyster]

then that is possible

[ruby canyon]

I need to gear 15 units for cage you think obol is getting the good shit?

[indigo oyster]

let see 117 base speed for 5*?
41 speed from swiftrush
35 for awakened shell

193 speed w/o substat or speed shell

let say i get 46 speed from both passive and substat

239

[ruby canyon]

but if you twin trick him with lily you dont really care?

[indigo oyster]

ig

[ruby canyon]

just make sure hes higher atk than your other units ig

[indigo oyster]

time to miserably farm his outpost (worst outpost in the game)

[ruby canyon]

farming gp outside 2x

[indigo oyster]

5k blue is gone in a matter of seconds

when 2x

[ruby canyon]

all your boxes gone too?

[indigo oyster]

yes

[ruby canyon]

we're out here starving fr

[indigo oyster]

if i target rosa, it's even more blue

https://tenor.com/view/faker-t1-worlds-2023-lol-all-roads-lead-to-me-gif-6508786678114020714

[ruby canyon]

bro is rome

[main elm]

15mins to finish 50 stamina is too much, plz nerf so we can cheese it faster

[mental mural]

Show team bro

[upbeat breach]

it was already nerfed like hell

[outer falcon]

Doki was? How

[main elm]

rosa lily kaz ling freya

the usual stuff

[tribal osprey]

Let him cook

[indigo oyster]

he knew something that we don't, let him cook

[mental mural]

You have a no lily mio team?

[main elm]

nope, I have lily why the fk would I NOT use lily in pretty much anything

[mental mural]

[uncut blade]

He right to be mad

[inland warren]

Dead game. No one has complained in this thread in over 30 mins

It's over

🇪 🇴 🇸

[nova island]

well the devs dont give annoucments pretty much so we will have to wait for the patch notes (when yeli banner rotates)

[inland warren]

Yeah, most likely. Just wanted some more content in here

[upbeat breach]

hard to complain when the devs dont give a shit about fixing what is broken

[inland warren]

Ok so we are in that stage of grief

🫠

[upbeat breach]

Inferno is a complete garbage and they refuse to acknowledge it. They changed terror and nico but the rest is the same cancer. The most important pet boss also requires both kloss and lily, it is just insane

[unreal glacier]

how are people clearing inferno rengokutsu? im using Diting(Massiah),lily,val(ling),kloss???? this shit feels sooo rng i cant figure out where to improve

[inland warren]

Dont get me wrong, i dont disagree with you. I've been in this thread for a while now

[lunar aurora]

Its rng lol

My autos are 1/10

Or 3/10 at best

[inland warren]

It's just that no one wrote anything for a while and wanted to revive the thread

[unreal glacier]

Are there ANY consistent runs at all that are known? i can't seem to find one

[mystic mesa]

It is rng, not feel like it is rng

[lunar aurora]

No

[upbeat breach]

At this point they need to reset the whole launch to fix all the bullshit that they did

[lunar aurora]

Everyone is going thru rng hell

[unreal glacier]

oh man, i thought i was going insane then. thanks guys lol.

[lunar aurora]

Holy dread

💀

[upbeat breach]

People with lily are already weeks in front of everyone else because they refuse to fix what is wrong

[lunar aurora]

U literally can beat almost every inf without lily

[upbeat breach]

Good luck doing rengo without kloss and lily

[unreal glacier]

i got lily like couple days ago, massive improved my prog. but before that i was doing fine without her.

[lunar aurora]

U just dont want to invest in those other units and take the easy way out

[lunar aurora]

^

[unreal glacier]

but it felt BAD compared to everyone else though, really bad lmao.

[lunar aurora]

and even then shes kinda niche

[upbeat breach]

have you even seen the teams that are clearing it?

[lunar aurora]

I rather want tsukiyomi over lily

[lunar aurora]

Yes

I bave

[unreal glacier]

its just slower teams usually right

[lunar aurora]

Because im one of those people using other comps

[upbeat breach]

every single one has lily+kloss

[lunar aurora]

Just give it time

[upbeat breach]

from both recent clear and fastest

[lunar aurora]

Literally everyone got bricked when we didnt have ssania

[cold bluff]

I cant beat it with Lilly and Kloss

[lunar aurora]

So we came up with alternatives

[upbeat breach]

Only comp in the whole list without the 2

[lunar aurora]

Its just rengo is a bit harder and prob takes more time

Now idk why u including kloss

😭

[upbeat breach]

Lily is broken, she is the reason why people can even do the content. Problem is that the company dont have the balls to nerf this cancer

[upbeat breach]

because every single team has it

[lunar aurora]

Shes just a good designed unit

[cold bluff]

The problem isnt Lilly, its their content in general

[upbeat breach]

o wait, not all of them

[unreal glacier]

Nerfing her isnt the solution imo, they needa either buff their characters or nerf the content slightly.

[upbeat breach]

Problem is that they have to balance content around a unit that is completly broken

[lunar aurora]

Lets not complain about non lds

[cold bluff]

They dont tho

[unreal glacier]

or remove ridiculous RNG

[cold bluff]

no one wants farming content to be hard

[unreal glacier]

like dokidoki random ass stuns LMAO

[cold bluff]

except maybe C

lol

[unreal glacier]

like who thought it was a good idea to have 5 mobs be able to stun lol.

[lunar aurora]

Stuns ?

[upbeat breach]

yep, losing the whole run because you got stun locked for 3 turns in a row

[unreal glacier]

fucking stupid.

[lunar aurora]

Tf

How are

U guys struggling

??

[unreal glacier]

???????????????????????????????????????????

[upbeat breach]

you get stunned, you dont hit, you die

simple?

[lunar aurora]

I aint never seen this

[unreal glacier]

^?

unless ur 1 tapping both waves

[lunar aurora]

Is this the lingluo diff ?

[unreal glacier]

u get stunned to oblivion

[lunar aurora]

No i use rahu

[unreal glacier]

i got both massiah and ril, massiah runs just get stunned non stop

its like a 60% clear

[lunar aurora]

What are u running

[unreal glacier]

ur lingluos s1 maxed?

[upbeat breach]

not running both together for one shot?

[lunar aurora]

Of course

[unreal glacier]

maybe thats the fix for my massiah runs

[lunar aurora]

Insanely good investment

More turns + higher purify chance

[unreal glacier]

Should i?

[upbeat breach]

you can run both in the same team and just one shot

you need massiah on dragon

[unreal glacier]

comp idea? i got everything imaginable for doki

assuming dragon is middle mob 2nd wave

or codex?

[upbeat breach]

I think it is Kaz Dinah Yang massiah rilmocha

in that order

[upbeat breach]

codex

[unreal glacier]

ok i lied, i dont got dinah

LOL

[upbeat breach]

massiah with codex and ril with count

[unreal glacier]

HAHA

[lunar aurora]

Dinah in doki ?

[unreal glacier]

Noted, was gonna max her for aurora anyways

[lunar aurora]

Bro run kloss

And if u cope

Just run rc 77

[inland warren]

This guy is ragebaiting so hard ahahah

[lunar aurora]

???

[upbeat breach]

if you have kloss you run kloss, if you dont you run dinah

[lunar aurora]

Read her kit in beta and was like damn, what a perfect support

Gl with dinah bro

[inland warren]

Exactly 🤣

[upbeat breach]

at least that was the team that I saw

[lunar aurora]

U gon need 250-280% eff acc

[lunar aurora]

Ngl

U got it

2/10 rb tho

[nova island]

they just need to make inferno auto farmable by people with multiple team comps... just nerf inferno, easy fix.. (we have cage + train + rally + trek + anisync for harder content)

inferno we need for gear for the real endgame

[open fable]

Guys not to be the bearer of bad news but apparently XD also treated their last game like this? Very good beta very bad launch

KEKW

[inland warren]

It's ok, once we pull lily all will be good

[open fable]

I'm afraid to tell you pulling lily doesn't mean easy progression in inferno. Well Anisync and shells anyway

It's easier

But still not easy

[inland warren]

Let me start getting her

Then i'll decide

😆

[open fable]

XDD

Like for Inferno Hoyan if you have the dots you can do easy clear w/o Lily

Rengoku uh you need Kloss and Lily

Sharon yeah Lily

[marsh topaz]

get lily or build 5 different units

[inland warren]

I dont build dot

I'm not a beta

I'd rather farm niconana till i quit

[small knot]

No with new unit you easily break 1 mil

[upbeat breach]

It does mean easy progression inferno. Playing with lily is full easy mode

[small knot]

You can but then you have to look at it every couple minutes to choose your upgrades which pmo

[open fable]

idk i pulled her this week and i still find myself not using her most of the time

except aurora inferno

and rengo

[small knot]

Nah right server fym

[open fable]

that i can understand

then again i do have ssania

maybe it skewed my progression abit

i only need 2 more auto teams then i can finally just auto this fking pve game till they fix this mess

or drop it and play NTE when it releases

[small knot]

Nte looked mid last I saw it

[open fable]

the same gacha wheel

[small knot]

Personally I’m more excited for ananta and endfield

[open fable]

whale it then drop it after a month or 2 if its shit

KEWK

[mental mural]

Trolling 😂

[ruby canyon]

ngl neverness to everness is the dumbest name they've ever come up with, and that's considering zenless zone zero exists

they're not even trying anymore

[small knot]

Nah it just genuinely didn’t look that impressive to me

[small knot]

It’s called neverness to ever mess because I’m never ever going to play it

I just wasn’t a huge fan of their characters

The art was ok

Pretty expected of modern gachas nowadays

[scarlet quartz]

that reminds me of the braxx video

i dont think ER looks bad

am i crazy?

[small knot]

It looks pretty mid

Compared to games on the horizon

It’s kinda like dislyte

[scarlet quartz]

Yeah it's nothing amazing

[small knot]

Except dislyte released years ago

[scarlet quartz]

but I would never complain about it

looks totally fine to me idk

[small knot]

He’s complaining about it because he’s baiting you duh

Also I personally don’t think it surpasses e7 in terms of visuals

[scarlet quartz]

Oh it doesn't

[small knot]

And a lot of people I know agree with me

[scarlet quartz]

tho 2d v 3d is a bit different imo

[small knot]

So it’s just disappointing that a game coming out years after its release isn’t much more advanced

[scarlet quartz]

Idk just personally before people mentioned it

[small knot]

Yes but that doesn’t mean we should put it on a lower standard

[scarlet quartz]

i never even gave it a thought

maybe im just oldge

[small knot]

Maybe you are

Anyways there’s a lot of games with much more amazing visuals although not in the same genre

[scarlet quartz]

Oh yeah for sure

[small knot]

Which is why people think that if Etheria restart doesn’t exceed expectations they can just drop it and wait a month for the next hot topic

[scarlet quartz]

but doesnt help them when they're big snooze in gameplay

[small knot]

True

Personally I’m waiting for endfield because I played og arknights

And then I’ll play ananta when it comes out

[scarlet quartz]

I think I just like pvp gachas too much

no real motivation if that's not included

[small knot]

This isn’t a pvp gacha

[scarlet quartz]

LOL

at least there is the promise of it eventually right

[small knot]

Haha funny

Game eos before your account is built enough to actually have fun in pvp

[scarlet quartz]

Probably, but for people who have no interest in pvp

this gacha was never it to begin with

[small knot]

True

[scarlet quartz]

They will enjoy themselves more with endfield anata and whatever else comes out next

[small knot]

Rather go play hsr

Which is what I did

[scarlet quartz]

tho HSR as a new player is fucking terrible too

imo

[small knot]

Nah

[scarlet quartz]

well not necessarily as a new player

[small knot]

New players do much better than old players

[scarlet quartz]

but the cycling of dps units every 2 months

is just horrendous

[small knot]

Yeah well imagine how an old player must feel watching 90% of their account rot

[mental mural]

It by far looked the best lol
At least say you have different gameplay preferences

[scarlet quartz]

whats NTE

neverness or whatever?

[small knot]

I said it didn’t look that impressive TO ME

Did you read the last part

[scarlet quartz]

NTE looked alright but anata looked better imo

at least judging from the trailers

[small knot]

That’s what I think too

[scarlet quartz]

tho i think it's unlikely for either of them to hit expectations

these massive open worlds are kinda sus

[small knot]

Expectations are too high

Like all other games

It’s bound to not meet them

Have a horrible launch

And then recover and stay somewhat relevant

Thats pretty much the cycle for mainstream gacha

[scarlet quartz]

actually

from what I've seen people stream on discord

the persona one doesnt look too horrible

[small knot]

Yeah but it’s a game that’s been out on cn

[scarlet quartz]

At least visually, cant speak to the gameplay loop

[scarlet quartz]

ic ic

[small knot]

It’s not a new game that’s releasing everywhere at the same time

[open fable]

i mean idm if etheria actually fixes their mess. lets hope we get a developers note or something

[small knot]

Which is what games like ananta NTE endfield Azur promilia etc are probably going to be doing

Aka all the big names

[open fable]

not HEY HYPERLINKERS HAVING TROUBLE WITH RENGOKU HELL? HERE IS A CC THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL

[scarlet quartz]

They have alot of work to do if they wanna turn the ship around

[small knot]

You mean explains nothing at all

Hell 4 guide ahh

[open fable]

i mean sure as long as they slowly fix but at least communicate

if im happy i whale if i am not happy im not spending and i wait for a month and if nothing happens i dip

on another note we dont have any hp dpsers but tiamat right?

[small knot]

Isn’t vice hp scaling

[open fable]

multipliers aint that high

I shall wait for a day busier will be meta

until then ima just abuse the substat

on another note Holden on dps gear hits like a wet noodle

[small knot]

Why are we pushing for endgame to refresh daster

Faster

[open fable]

Cause they are a masochist

[small knot]

I’m not trying to spend 12 hours every day trying to clear ember trek just for it to reset in 2 weeks

Also the extra comment pushes to make cage rumble permanent to push players to build 15+ characters not just 5

But we’re already building 15+ just for farming

[pearl knot]

is Lindelle just a speed check? cant get enough debuffs up before she kills me

[small knot]

Lindelle?

[pearl knot]

her

[small knot]

Oh

I didn’t do ether net so

[thick arch]

another day of no commutation?

[open fable]

im sorry to tell you

but she is easy fro dot

[small knot]

Another day of perfect communication

[open fable]

[thick arch]

[open fable]

but i think you can do vice viper

[pearl knot]

idk what that means

[thick arch]

poison

[pearl knot]

for dot?

[open fable]

if you have ssania and fangus

[pearl knot]

oh

[open fable]

she is easier

guoba did it with vice and viper tho

[pearl knot]

says she takes 80 reduced dot damage still just dot her?

[open fable]

yes

[pearl knot]

do you kill her adds or focus her

[open fable]

adds

but keep the dot you dont want her to have her passive

you can do ssania fangus vice

wait

[pearl knot]

yeah i mean she just kills me if she has stacks

[open fable]

i dont think you can use vice on red dark

[pearl knot]

you can

[open fable]

ah then ssania vice fangus sustainer and cc pusher

i did it with that

[pearl knot]

great another random unit i need to lvl

[open fable]

you havent lvled vice?

he is like the answer to most end game pve

[white veldt]

gang how fast is the enemy who gives immunity to aurora?

does anyone know?

[pearl knot]

he just looks like a generic npc man

[open fable]

260?

I find viper strip in line at 260

[white veldt]

🧡

time to run ig halloween viper at 260

[tribal osprey]

There is one. If you just don’t farm it you can never lose

[thick arch]

the only thing 100% consistent is 0 wins

just throw any rare 3* with no gear in there

We need SSR diting aka straze to oneshot and then it would be 100% consistent

[small knot]

We need diting to def pen 70%

[thick arch]

wait for next RTA season for new sets /j

inferno 2 3 and 4

[white veldt]

unironically

inferno 2 is prob gonna be the solution to low inferno drop rates

catch up mechanic™

how do you clear it? 5 ssanias

[thick arch]

just 1000% atk and HP each stage

[thick arch]

are they running 5 artisans or have 420 speed?

just think how cringe the speed req will be

[small knot]

Amazing! You just gotta have the new busted unit that does 10x the dps to be able to clear inferno 2 which is 2x as hard as inferno

[tribal osprey]

Exactly! Every voice matters to Etheria!

[white veldt]

2x as hard seems easy

[tribal osprey]

Still struggling to clear that stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[white veldt]

SR only clear video here (0.01% win rate)

[small knot]

[scarlet quartz]

dont forget -200 purple lattices

[white veldt]

lvl 6 skills

but dw, theyre monitoring it

because your voice matters a lot

[tribal osprey]

Exactly! Every voice matters in Etheria!

[gilded mason]

your voice heard and I will talk with our Lattice Director

[white veldt]

I love spending 4 lattices just so I can clear aurora inferno

that was fun

sure happy I was forced to use 4 lattices for that

[gilded mason]

I invested 10 lattice into yeli

2 more after reset

[white veldt]

skill issue tbh

[small knot]

Ong

[gilded mason]

your voice heard and I will talk with our Ong Director

[mental mural]

I guess my voice in #1385288185226985593 is an exception then

[gilded mason]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[mental mural]

Remember
F2p friendly in an rta gacha 🥳

[white veldt]

it could be... just make inferno doable...

[tight laurel]

What else you going to do? Build PVP units?

Nonsense

[white veldt]

then itd honestly be f2p playable

[tight laurel]

We love building niche units for one PVE stage

[white veldt]

"you have units you like?"
"nah fam, you gotta invest in diting"

[tight laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-clown-meme-clown-makeup-clown-makeup-meme-gif-24590297

[mental mural]

Be careful how you use we

[tight laurel]

We will continue building niche pve units until morale improves

[mental mural]

The fact that you're forced to invest in units is wild to me
Never happened to me befotr

[white veldt]

I love being forced to invest in a unit I dislike strongly

I love that theres no viable alternative that uses units I actually like

[tight laurel]

The devs just thought it'd be most enjoyable to make all teams unviable except 2-3

[small knot]

I strongly dislike Lily so I hope the game doesn’t give me her

[tight laurel]

You will build those units or you will get stuck

[small knot]

I would be really disappointed if I suddenly pulled Lily today

[tight laurel]

See the fun there?

[small knot]

God that would ruin my day

[mental mural]

My currency in other gacha: 999999999
My currency in etheria: 15000

[small knot]

What game is gang playing

Cultivation simulator

[split halo]

Is that game fun

[mental mural]

Peak

[small knot]

Is this dokkan

[mental mural]

Extremely fun 😁

[split halo]

That’s legends

Dragon ball legends I presume

[white veldt]

ppl love big number

lmao

[mental mural]

Never had a hard time building teams until I met EtheLily Reroll

[small knot]

Lily restart

[white veldt]

Never had to quit my job for a game until EtheLily Reroll

but im burnt out at my job so its fine

[white veldt]

this is a good depression game cuz it keeps me busy all day

[split halo]

This is damage

Etheria has no damage

[small knot]

What are you watching

[tribal osprey]

Exactly! Every unit matters in Etheria!

[split halo]

Jentry chau

[inland warren]

This chat is actually hilarious

Love this community

[warped kestrel]

The Inferno Difficulty thread community is the best part of the ER community.

[small knot]

True

[inland warren]

True

[warped kestrel]

If I just had to build one niche unit per piece of PvE content, I wouldn't mind, but as it stands I spend several hours leveling all sorts of random trash and trying all sorts of team comps with the aforementioned random trash, and still rarely achieve anything

Meanwhile a Lily user just slaps Lily into the team and suddenly has +2 team members than the game normally allows

[inland warren]

It's ok, we'll get her one day

And then we will be able to play the game

[small knot]

And then we’ll glaze the game

[warped kestrel]

I've been playing with that coping mechanism too, but after my last, 6th dupe in a row, I'm starting to lose faith

[small knot]

#skillissue

#infernoneverneedednerfs

[warped kestrel]

Already have all the "lol Inferno is fine guys, just get good, farm for another month, etc" memes ready for the day I get that Lily

[small knot]

I can’t wait to be able to send those

[split halo]

Feels like a sprint once you get the 2

[mental mural]

Never been fired at a job until I started EtheLily Reroll

[mental mural]

The way damage works here is so inconsistent
Like are units supposed to one shot in rta or not and why

[mental mural]

We desperately need a test server

[split halo]

It’s sad how poor the execution from devs done to such a great game

[mental mural]

It still needs to be nerfed

[mental mural]

It's a rta gacha so my expectations were low but then they started speaking like it would be some super f2p friendly game where you can summon for and build around whoever you like
They successfully deceived me

Even tricked me into spending money

[tribal osprey]

“No 50/50”

[split halo]

No rumors please

[tribal osprey]

UwU

[undone vortex]

I'll talk to the f2p director

[twilit vault]

oof poor trueevil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mweWPEHNWtE

hilarious video though

[undone vortex]

is this like deadass

or is this a ba seng se

type of thing

there's no problems in ER

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-6037055492951935036

[twilit vault]

sarcasm with his trademark dry humor

[mental mural]

You can make money without forcing us to get 2 very specific units lol

[mental mural]

Never cared about that

[mental mural]

Funny man 😂

[split halo]

I love it

[mental mural]

Bait thumbnail?

[undone vortex]

f2p friendly and it's just u get a ton of pulls in the first week

💀

[twilit vault]

yes

[mental mural]

In a rta game with bans tons of summons is literally the bare minimum

I've seen a lot of noobs with 15k gems and say the game is f2p friendly

Ignorance

[undone vortex]

if only u could buy lettuce with gems

[twilit vault]

he's basically venting his frustration with the game using sarcasm

[mental mural]

You want me tell you how easy it is to build units in other gachss I play?

Some don't even take 5 minutes to be pvp ready 😂

[scarlet quartz]

didnt he not too long ago release a video that people are overblowing this whole inferno thing

[mental mural]

Trueevil and seanb are the good ones

I trust their judgements

[tribal osprey]

Yes

[split halo]

If you need help there are hell 4 guides

[scarlet quartz]

I watched a horrendous trueevil video recently

about ER

[twilit vault]

i think his point was more that he didn't mind the difficulty as much as the poor drops for doing a slop dungeon with 5 minute runs

[mental mural]

He usually releases bangers 💔

Link the video

[scarlet quartz]

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt

lemme find it

@tall flame Yo workhorse

what was the trueevil video we watched

the bad one

[mental mural]

He posted multiple good videos during the beta and decent ones until 2 weeks ago

[twilit vault]

the 'Inferno is too easy' one?

[mental mural]

Lmao common trueevil banger 😂

[scarlet quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH3t64ppUNI

i THINK it was this one

[tight laurel]

So many skill issues

[undone vortex]

who's the bigger flop c, Jack or etheria restart

[warped kestrel]

I love this guy, he should have far more subscribers and viewers.

[mental mural]

Agreed

[gilded mason]

Damn poor c

Why u do him dirty

[mental mural]

EtheLily Reroll

[twilit vault]

i didnt think this one was that bad personally

[undone vortex]

Satan made me do it

[gilded mason]

Trueevil gives me serial killer vibes

He could play dexter tbh

[twilit vault]

and yeah i remembered correctly he emphasized the poor drops over the difficulty when he got to talking about the Inferno bosses

[mental mural]

Blaming it on Satan 😂

[warped kestrel]

Same, something is clearly off with him, and that just makes him funnier to watch.

[mental mural]

"Trueevil"

[scarlet quartz]

all of the above

[mental mural]

Hes meticulous

[tight laurel]

Ever sort his channel by oldest?

[mental mural]

"F2p are the only ones who should be struggling" 💔

[mental mural]

Rare trueevil l

[gilded mason]

well he knows it

he knows what he is

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-dexter-dexter-morgan-michael-c-hall-gif-3561803

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/man-wearing-glass-glasses-goggles-dexter-dexter-morgan-gif-16786082279298630735

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

holy shit

[scarlet quartz]

dexter was so good

[gilded mason]

he should be called true degen

[scarlet quartz]

his enunciation or lack thereof is pissing me off

[mental mural]

"The coins situation is fine"
Trueevil wtf man
I trusted you

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/because-i-am-evil-lex-luthor-evil-gif-23063227

[tight laurel]

Yw

[pure junco]

Just build Andrew guys

[mental mural]

Would

If i could

[warped kestrel]

All those absolutely insane statements have to be satire, there's no other way to see it

[small knot]

Yes I know I was mocking the white knights

[undone vortex]

white knights is a good idea

[gilded mason]

your voice heard and I will talk with our Knight Director

[tiny jungle]

Nerf wen

[glass ruin]

how does Lilith do in pvp

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/gavin-meme-gavin-meme-disappointed-annoyed-gif-546450754415092863

[mental mural]

💀

[gilded mason]

Thank you for sharing these insightful feedbacks. Some of them we are already discussing within our team and hopefully you could see some changes in the next few patches. Please be patient. Etheria won't go this far without the support of this great community. Thank you!

[graceful juniper]

Plz no rumor

[gilded mason]

Trust in him

And he will grant you salvation

[mental mural]

Screw that
G
Double the coins we get when farming
Then double it again

[mental mural]

Maybe I'll finally be able to star up my unit then
Cuz I legimately thought I didn't have enough shadow orints

[jolly relic]

back to hsr

[scarlet quartz]

please no rumors

[undone vortex]

this is a great idea

[timid thicket]

I was told to come here and say "🐱"

Adios 😉

[sly ravine]

the real barcode?

[timid thicket]

Si. What up?

[sly ravine]

yooooo ! big fan 😄

[timid thicket]

Hey! Appreciate ya.

[sly ravine]

you were making so much sense to me during cbt together with scion storm !

[timid thicket]

Im bringing a different R unit out tomorrow for inferno nico 😉

[timid thicket]

Oh snap. Scion. I havent seen his videos since Brown Dust game. But I was gone for a while too

[sly ravine]

nice ! I pulled ssania after 1,3k summons the otehr day and will probably abuse her for that content, building fangus and obol rn. (stiill lilyless but f that unit) I wanna bet the next r showcase is cachi 😄

[timid thicket]

Ha, nah. Not cachi yet. But cachi and dorothy the Wisher is a nasty combo I was using in Beta on manual.

Its Cybil

[sly ravine]

oouff, i saw cybil in that godawful champion event, she was dealing insane damage