inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[graceful juniper]

funny enough its doable but yea...missing lot of dot will doom the run

[warped kestrel]

If they're faster than that, then Obol S3s before the minion can be stunned again, and if they're slower than that, Hoyan cuts inbetween and some dots disappear before SSania can extend them with S2

[thick arch]

beta was fun last year but idk who's publishing what region. I'm in the server and didn't even get pinged it was released lol

[ruby canyon]

(for clarity this is healer sania)

[tribal osprey]

Is Sania 1/1/5?

[coarse dirge]

i went in here thinking it'd be cool to have 3 turn immunity only to learn that the flower buds can strip it

it's like they designed this game to be as unbearable as possible

like im sorry for not being strong enough to kill the boss in 2 unit turns i guess

[brave heath]

its ok man they nerfed niconana, the easiest one

great job to the devs!

[coarse dirge]

all this work too

only to just get 95% epic shells on the drops

holy shit this game is awful

im crashing out

i have never felt so much frustration in a gacha game before and i've played so much

this has to be the worst experience ever

ive had more fun on random pump and dump gacha games that EoS'd in 3 months than this goofy ass game

[orchid needle]

Time to drop this game for phantom x and wait until endfield

[coarse dirge]

im just waiting for e7 anni

[orchid needle]

[coarse dirge]

im rly mostly frustrated cuz this game could've been so good

[orchid needle]

Yeah I dont even wanna try rta or fearless arena anymore, impossible to face anyone that has ssania and farmed all inferno on double drop weekend

[tidal arch]

Waiiiiit don't crash out, i got you

[pure junco]

Artiar is our hero and we just don't understand that

[mental mural]

Thought i had forgotten to add an effect accuracy piece but nah
The boss is just that resistant

[mental mural]

You don't say

[split halo]

I can’t do embark track and rally or aisync

[nova island]

yeah it mkes sense for those to be hard IF inferno is farmable so u can get better gear... not otherwise

[split halo]

My Lilly needs like 300 to out speed

[brave heath]

dont need to outspeed heinrich

[nova island]

i just had a gigabyte on my lingluo

wait

[split halo]

I got to nightmare for rally final past the normal and hard to get like no reward for the time

[nova island]

i had a gigabyte on someone

maybe mio

for freeze

[brave heath]

mio kazuyo are the goats for anisync

perma cc everything and then just pick them off slowly

[split halo]

Prop for kaz

How fast

Trying to shell farm but it kills me every I get epic and 2 sets

[brave heath]

kazuyo was kinda slow, mio was also compared to now, pretty slow

like idk 270 or something it was going after heinrich and 1 or 2 units

[gilded mirage]

Lmaooo

[split halo]

Imagine if they change it to epic on normal mythic with 2 sets and inferno with mythic with 3 set drop only otherwise waste of energy and time

They just delete my dps

Everyone but my dps can survive the barrage

[soft nexus]

So are they gonna nerf the difficulty or not

Everything is becoming a speed check now

[split halo]

Most likely not

If they did it would of been done already

[brave heath]

well that isnt true, but ye its not likely to be by much

[soft nexus]

Can’t believe that I stuck at hell 4 for 2 weeks straight coz no effectiveness core with speed from doki doki

Stupid

[split halo]

Soo many people complained about it and nothing been done besides Nico nana and terror

[soft nexus]

They nerf max HP but not really affect the run much

[split halo]

I got nothing from 2x event from dolidoli

[small knot]

Can they also just remove flat main stats from right side pieces

[soft nexus]

The shit needs to be adjust is resistant and speed of the mobs

[split halo]

Ik Hp sure but sustaining is the key to sauces if you can’t sustain the damage it’s gg

Or do damage or fast enough gg

Should of never touched beta

The stats in that game was fine

[soft nexus]

I can’t believe that I stuck at hell 4 difficulty for literally 2 weeks since no effectiveness core at all, and for doki doki the speed needed is 290 is absurdly high

And they are limiting the resources

[nova island]

i think they will nerf inferno, they are just slow

[split halo]

Btw once you do get into inferno the drop rate still shat

[gilded mirage]

Hitting 290 speed is partly about Shells and skillups too

[split halo]

They acted pretty fast to nerf our units but slow to nerf there side of things is crazy to me

[soft nexus]

Nah bro, you need atleast 12 spd from each gear and red passive on pet

[split halo]

They expected everyone to have Lilly

[soft nexus]

Skill up only give 15 and shell is 55

[nova island]

seems like

[soft nexus]

Base speed of a fastest unit is 127 so +70 from shell and skill up so need +93 from gear

[split halo]

And ssania

[soft nexus]

Which equivalent to 12 spd each

[split halo]

Kloss is 128

[soft nexus]

And 2 needs to be 15+

[nova island]

did u forget the swiftrush bonus??

just checking

[split halo]

Just max skill then all up its to be expected and level 6 for inferno

[gilded mirage]

That's... Not even close to right. Well, depends on the unit but I had 303 speed on Lily with "average" (6) Swift modules and maybe one or two 9 rolls. Main thing was red pet with red speed. Hold up Imma check this.

[warped kestrel]

The set bonus is huge, my Mio has like 300~305 SPD with only 8-10 spd on each piece, one +12 and one +14

[nova island]

i have 300 speed, one yellow spd roll, no red speed rolls and yellow speed on pet

[split halo]

This is my Heinrich

If I were to get a 2 swift it be 130

[gilded mirage]

Yeah the pet + set bonus + skill bonus got it

With 6 speed in every piece and swift, Lily had 283 speed

So I probably had more 9s when hit 303

[gilded mirage]

Probably one 13 and a bunch of 9s

[split halo]

With a 19 speed

[gilded mason]

Not the worst but close

[graceful juniper]

So this is a fkin lie

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

They said your voice matters to etheria

Etheria is a game not a living entity

[warped kestrel]

HR teaches every employee in every customer service company to say that. Never means anything.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

So your voice doesnt matter to them

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

No rumor please. We have been working on this issue closely and please wait for update news

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

Monthly recap is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[nova island]

jack did make changes to the patch when he came, i was happy with that

[undone vortex]

when he came

wiw

[gilded mason]

He came on the patch??

You were happy when he came?

[undone vortex]

💀

[gilded mason]

Oh dear

[split halo]

No rumor please. We have been working on this issue closely and please wait for update news

[undone vortex]

do u like it when Jack comes

[warped kestrel]

If every time he comes 2 Infernos get the nerfbat, make him come here a few dozens more times, please.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

🍆

[undone vortex]

how many times can someone come

[outer falcon]

I've been doing some thinking, and I conclude that we're all wrong

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[outer falcon]

Why hasn't anyone expressed an ounce of concern for the dev team who has clearly been taken hostage by terrorists

[warped kestrel]

Got Lily finally? Congratz.

[outer falcon]

No, but I got my 4th Borgne 😄 👍

[warped kestrel]

Nice!

[outer falcon]

I only have 12 SSRs 😄 👍

[warped kestrel]

I too got my 6th dupe IN A ROW, today!!!!!!

It was a Freya dupe

[outer falcon]

Jesus Christ

[warped kestrel]

Could have been a Kloss, could even have been a Lily

[outer falcon]

I'm pinning that to my keyboard clipboard

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[warped kestrel]

I don't feel all that heard, folks.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[outer falcon]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[pure junco]

Huh? Say it louder

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[pure junco]

I CAN'T HEAR YOU

[small knot]

You could spam this all day and devs wouldn’t do anything

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[pure junco]

HUUUUUUUUUH?!!?!

[outer falcon]

I'm getting IQ diffed by Sharon hard trek btw what the hell is the mechanic, I can't read

[mental mural]

Just dot it

[pure junco]

YOU WANT MORE GUIDES FROM ARTIAR?

[mental mural]

Useless guides

[outer falcon]

Does Celince work on these idiot adds

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[mental mural]

Yes
She also gives attack down

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[outer falcon]

Time to cook, Jesse

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[pure junco]

Never felt so respected by the devs until now 😤🍵 first order of business since my voice matters! Can you do some balances and check your AI generated coding?

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[outer falcon]

I'm bringing it to the main channels

[pure junco]

Lol

[gilded mason]

Didnt jack delete the message saying your voice matters

[undone vortex]

😭 😭 😭

[gilded mason]

So your voice doesnt matter

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[soft nexus]

Agreed

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

Your credit card however

Matters a lot

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12654501364171447161

[undone vortex]

he needs a new yacht

y'all dont understand smh

[gilded mason]

New yacht is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to my yacht.

[undone vortex]

u think Jack buys hentai

with the whale money

[gilded mason]

Hentai is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[undone vortex]

😭

something not someone dam

[gilded mason]

My fellow etherians

We have suffered long enough

For weeks we have been suffering under the torture of a problem which the Etheria created - a problem which has deteriorated until it becomes intolerable for us.

[white veldt]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[white veldt]

when are yall adding 不尊重玩家 to your nicks then huh

im waiting

[gilded mason]

Cash alone moves the wheels of history

I fought in the gacha rng as a soldier in the ranks. I know what poor design means. Terrible memories of those years when whole generations of the youth of so many countries were laid low by the hail of p2w and endless grind rng have not been canceled from my mind. I myself was seriously bankrupt. In the years that have since elapsed and at the present time, both as man and as a player of gacha, I have had before me a panorama of political, economic and moral consequences of the shit game design, and not in Etheria alone.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

How can anyone suppose that with this two-fold experience I would consider with anything but horror the prospect of another garbage game? Even if it were to arise in global only, a shit game nowadays would inevitably become a general trend. Gachadom itself would be endangered. New discoveries of rng and shit game design would make a future game even more dreadful than the last. The danger of death would not be reserved for f2p, but whole populations including whales would be imperiled without the possibility of effective protection.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

Hi

You know your name means

"Emilythefox doesnt respect players"

LOL

[tribal osprey]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mirage]

Kill it fast in first stage and/or remove the buffs on the mobs else in 2nd stage she has all the buffs

[tribal osprey]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[outer falcon]

I don't think that part applies to the hard version, she's got some scaling crit based thing with marked enemies and turns taken or something I can't understand from the description

[undone vortex]

whyd they make febian and rengo a joke but randomly juiced up sharon with 3 stages

[coarse dirge]

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[coarse dirge]

has any of the xd staff messaged recently

feels like they've given up

which is understandable if the devs have

ppl are still buying the dogshit 11$ recoloured skins and 100$ packs left and right

why put effort when they're making a lot of money i guess

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[tribal osprey]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[coarse dirge]

funniest part is

terror, a green boss, applies debuffs

but we dont have a single red healer that can cleanse

except mia's fuckass that doesnt even work well

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[tribal osprey]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

Mia's fuckass is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[outer falcon]

Who needs a healer when you have Dorothy the Wisher!

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

No rumor please. We have been working on this issue closely and please wait for update news

[undone vortex]

No rumor please is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

ARE YOU READY ?！

[gilded mason]

Your voice matters is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[green spear]

[undone vortex]

Mia's fuckass is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[green spear]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/inception-gif-4939636

This thread

[green spear]

[undone vortex]

This thread is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria. Currently being monitored

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[open fable]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria

[sour lotus]

I am real please no rumors

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[patent gate]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[pure junco]

Lmao I feel like this is gonna go far

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[pure junco]

No rumors please

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[coarse granite]

[undone vortex]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[coarse granite]

i told them to eos irl on twitter already

that post had to be rage bait

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

eos irl is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[patent gate]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[pure junco]

We're working on that. Please no rumors

[coarse granite]

xD

i love yall bruh

[winter turtle]

💀

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[undone vortex]

Got some sleep and Still try to catch up the new ones. Will have a internal meeting ASAP when our team back to office

[pure junco]

No rumors please

[small knot]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[scarlet quartz]

No rumors.

[charred minnow]

the rumors have been rumored

the best defense arguments are the ones saying: "but old similar games also had rocky launches, they didn't get the time to get a better game yet like he old ones"

[patent gate]

We're working on that. Please no rumors.

[patent gate]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[charred minnow]

I'm having a blast fighting ppl in the pre order queue on black desert huehue

[scarlet quartz]

what u pre ordering

[scarlet quartz]

Also any luck with hammers?

[charred minnow]

1 wailing armor with all hammers/crons

[charred minnow]

pen bs offhand

[scarlet quartz]

uhhh that was tet right?

[charred minnow]

ye

need tet for new armor coming out

[scarlet quartz]

Yeah watched the ball with a buddy

haven't played in a while tho

[charred minnow]

ball was kinda mid af

pvp updates only for top % of players???

[scarlet quartz]

bro they were yapping forever

what guild are you in

[charred minnow]

none

I just play daily simulator a bit

prep for big updates

[scarlet quartz]

Fair enough

I was in BugCat when i played not sure that says anything to you

[charred minnow]

nope, is it NA or EU?

[gilded mason]

Lol

[scarlet quartz]

EU

[charred minnow]

ah I'm in EU too, but never heard of them ;-;

[open fable]

is musa still king in BS?

[scarlet quartz]

Musa my goat

buff musa pve yessir yessir

AH SHIT

i used buff and pve in the same sentence

inferno nerf revert next patch confirmed

no rumors.

[open fable]

the game was fun sad it was grindy as hell

then again this game is also grindy as well

ICANT

[charred minnow]

all you gotta do is afk fish like the rest

[thin crystal]

hello general for complainers

[charred minnow]

you seem to be here all the time aswell

[patent gate]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[thin crystal]

speak for yourself

[charred minnow]

yee seems to be here

[thin crystal]

totally not weird at all

[gilded mason]

Not weird fiora

[left snow]

i was told thats garen pre transition

[spiral musk]

how much of the effect acc recommendation for doki inferno guys?

[pure junco]

280

[chrome nymph]

Infernos is to hard!! They need to make it a lot easier so everyone can farm and focus on pvp

Or else everyone will leave the game

[indigo oyster]

Nerf every stat on inferno by 50%, idk why I need to walk across a whole continent just to farm gear

[amber sinew]

Just wondering, are they still "monitoring" this? Progression from hell to inferno just feels awful.

[scarlet quartz]

we dont know

supposedly they are

[pure junco]

Sorta

C Said: that was the core issue I communicated that the barrier to entry and disparity between ssania and no ssania on terror/nico were a huge gate for people getting into endgame farming

He'll continue monitoring or whatever

[scarlet quartz]

Since it's obvious that once u clear terror and nico having ssania is not important at all

no rumors.

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[gilded mason]

Of course! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria

[scarlet quartz]

LOL

[patent gate]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[left snow]

proceeds to link a hell 4 guide

[pure junco]

Artiar is the only way out

[left snow]

🤣

that thing was hilarious

[gilded mason]

your voice heard and I will talk with our Artiar Director

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[patent gate]

We're working on that. Please no rumors

[gilded mason]

Fanservice is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

I swear they're ai and Skyrim NPC

[scarlet quartz]

no rumors.

[patent gate]

I am real please no rumors

[gilded mason]

Skyrim is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[pure junco]

[gilded mason]

your voice heard and I will talk with our Elder Scrolls Director

[patent gate]

Got some sleep and Still try to catch up the new ones. Will have a internal meeting ASAP when our team back to office.

[gilded mason]

Tbf this is just hilarious

It just doesnt get old

[scarlet quartz]

It would be even funnier if it wasnt so sad...

[patent gate]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[scarlet quartz]

LMFAO

[gilded mason]

Sad is a good idea. Let me see if we could do something like this

[undone vortex]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[gilded mason]

How about the EWS LOL

COME.PLAY PVP GUYS

[undone vortex]

ews that still going on?

[gilded mason]

Lmao

[undone vortex]

I'm excited about the commentary of

who's delayer or lily is faster

and which support does CRAZY DAMAGE with revelation

because they are support not dps

[scarlet quartz]

XD website is actually hilarious

[undone vortex]

what in the wixsite

[scarlet quartz]

they got 10/10 quotes there

[gilded mason]

LOL

[patent gate]

We're working on that. Please no rumors

[scarlet quartz]

🗣️ 🔥

wait

they are the guys behind torchlight infinite?

this shit is cooked

[patent gate]

Yep

[gilded mason]

Theyre behind a lot of stuff

[scarlet quartz]

nvm

[patent gate]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[pure junco]

Aren't your products here to make money?

[scarlet quartz]

With good products, profits come naturally

[pure junco]

😂

[gilded mason]

They launchrd ragnarok m eternal love in china too

[patent gate]

When Will it be done? When we reach perfection.

[gilded mason]

And global

[gilded mason]

Tell that to your boss when he asks u why your work isnt done

[patent gate]

We're working on that. Please no rumors

[gilded mason]

"With good payment page, profit comes naturally"

[scarlet quartz]

The boss aint working either is the trick

[pure junco]

Lmao who was the project management team behind this crap man 😅

[gilded mason]

PERFECTIONNNN

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[patent gate]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[pure junco]

Is that why I keep getting fired

[gilded mason]

"Nameless why isnt your work done?"

"I'll be done when my work reaches perfection"

[amber sinew]

Thanks, to be fair I was able to clear inferno NicoNana due to the nerfs, and eventually cleared Terror since I got the perfect shell but it's still not 100% wr. After that, Doki is only due to revelation being OP. No other inferno clears so far, just so difficult to progress altogether. I hope they address this soon!

Rn, inferno feels like raid bosses lmao.

[undone vortex]

when will it be done

[scarlet quartz]

when we reach perfection.

https://tenor.com/view/daniel-dae-kim-mogged-mogger-looksmaxxing-ruggyscruggy-gif-1507416034755076487

[undone vortex]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[main elm]

a little bit more

[night compass]

How much er does inferno bosses actually have

This niconana resisting everything

[undone vortex]

1k is crazy

[main elm]

I just realized, how the fuck 2.9k+ still S

brother there is 2 more SSs

[clever swan]

not trying to be annoying but do we have any news from c and jackie,like idk how theyre taking so much time to fix the simplest shit to fix,if i see another patch where there is a new unit and bugfixes that no one even knew about this game is done for me

[scarlet quartz]

We are closely monitoring the issue no rumors please.

[clever swan]

[scarlet quartz]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[patent gate]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[scarlet quartz]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[pure junco]

They have a lot of effect res, and I mean lots.

[scarlet quartz]

Pretty sure that's a rumor

[pure junco]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[patent gate]

With good products, profits come naturally.

[sour lotus]

no rumors please

[night compass]

Crazy cus its 180 and 200 eff

[patent gate]

Still struggling with how to clear the stage? Check out this guide now, Hyperlinkers!

[white veldt]

yeah and its funny

[twilit vault]

fortune cookie ass taglines

[charred minnow]

I think inferno is just a reference to dantes inferno, we keep spiraling deeper and deeper into it

[strong ferry]

no way this is real

[gilded mason]

Youd better believe it

[green spear]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-belive-belive-it-naruto-belive-it-naruto-belive-gif-24879767

[fickle hare]

for inferno aurora is viper a more preferred stripper than holden?

[left snow]

ye

[open fable]

viper reduces dmg and has more consistent strip

but holden does allow you you 2 shot if you have gears i think

[open fable]

wow i just noticed shell stages coins have a lower drop %

[carmine palm]

Funny how all the cc's are mad about Braxx's video, while they have all their own complaints about the game. That's the kind of expected response when you intentionally market to that type of audience. Now we have a SeiiMore video responding to SeanB video responding to Jayy's video responding to Brax's video.

[carmine palm]

I mean their name is XD and their logo is the cummies emoji. They do a little trolling.

[charred minnow]

difference is that brax barely played the game

he just hopped on the hate train, to get more drama farm

[carmine palm]

If you say so. I think a lot of casual players from hoyo/other games to whom this was marketed had a very similar experience/opinion of the game. That's why his video popped off so well.

[charred minnow]

this game wasn't marketed for hoyoshills lmao

this game has pvp something hoyo will never touch as they know it will only cause harm than good

[carmine palm]

Of course it was. They specifically referenced not having 50/50, how they were more player friendly with acquiring units, and how the pvp wasn't p2w.

[indigo oyster]

heard thier next game is pvp for sum

[charred minnow]

and everyone thinking not having 50/50 makes this game unique is wild ;-;

[carmine palm]

Totally. 50/50 or not doesn't take in the context of pull income/etc. It's pure marketing.

[charred minnow]

that's not what I meant but okay

[carmine palm]

Not to mention character kits being gated behind $350 of lattices

instead of dupes

[charred minnow]

yeah and that's why not having 50/50 doesn't matter here, characters mean shit if you don't have lattice/gear to build them with

or exp ;-;

or coins or training data

this game really is a slog fest lmao

[carmine palm]

yea it's really weird to release characters so fast and there aren't even whale options to build them

[charred minnow]

even whales can't win

[undone vortex]

they want ER to be an ESPORT

[carmine palm]

when is that Beijing invitational? lol

[charred minnow]

esport in biggest joke category no?

[undone vortex]

it'll start when Jack responds

[undone vortex]

ok but

u get to see fun exciting gameplay like

who's Lily or delayer is faster

[charred minnow]

who's cleave one shots harder

[undone vortex]

and Freya/kazu/Celi does CRAZY DAMAGE WITH REVELATION

THEY ARE SAPPORT GUYZZZ

[charred minnow]

nah I like the revelation shit

it's wild that it's possible to create a dps support

especially doing max hp % dmg of the enemy hp

[undone vortex]

ews gonna be the most boring thing ever

probably gonna have an ai commentate

like their showcases

[left snow]

lol

chat gpt going over the games sounds fun actually

more fun than rng rolling sharon

[undone vortex]

but at least it'll have accurate information maybe

[carmine palm]

didn't see a whole lot of viewership for the tournament they did a few days ago, but maybe they'll market the invitational more and pay bigger streamers to watch it

seems to be the only time they spend money is on streamers

[charred minnow]

who even cared for the last tournament tbf

[undone vortex]

the staff aren't even tryna advertise it on discord

c barely talks as is

and he's the CM 💀

[charred minnow]

just a bunch of streamers that barely know what they talk about themselves

[undone vortex]

the streamers are just gonna put a video overlay of themselves overtop the stream

and do something else

this isn't spreading rumors jack in case u reading

[charred minnow]

OMG LILY PRESS W ON MASSIAH!!!!!

MASSIAH PRESSED E AND POOF ENEMY TEAM WIPE

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-gif-19096030

I'll discuss this game with my BDO AI Girlfriend maid once it comes out

[undone vortex]

um

[left snow]

average plat vs plat game

[undone vortex]

u forgot kloss/marvel/mio delay

smh

[charred minnow]

who?

[cold bluff]

Wait they have staff? Hard to tell

[undone vortex]

I kidnapped c

[graceful cradle]

I feel like you're probably saying this from a genuine point of cluelessness so I'll humor you. The whole later half of that video was all misinformation. It's very apparent watching it that he was just looking for reasons to make said video as well so that bias plus running with misinformation isn't a good look. That said the first half makes a lot of good points I mean ofc it does cuz it was info we've been saying in here both before and after his video about the issues with the game. Pretty much unanimous opinions about that video were he raised some good points then ruined it all by spewing bullshit for views

Which is both a fair take and accurate

[glass ruin]

is helkid ever used anywhere

[warped kestrel]

I used him to get through the boss that summons like 6 monsters and then nukes you with damage based on how many of them are still alive 2 turns later. The shield helps tank the nuke.

[carmine palm]

You know, I thought this at first, but I just skipped through the video again and didn't have a problem with most of the stuff. Which points of the Brax video did you have an issue with exactly? The AI art part which is debatable and probably doesn't matter to most people? Or the changes to units part where he used SSania as a screenshot but Xiada/Veronika were probably better examples?

[glass ruin]

kururu?

[warped kestrel]

Yeah I think that's the name

[glass ruin]

i just have like 4 dupes of him

feels so bad

[warped kestrel]

Dupes feel terrible in this game

My last 6 SSRs have been dupes, and it has brought me to the verge of uninstalling

[glass ruin]

my last 9 ssrs are all dupes

only non dupe is veronika

and i cant find a use for her

[left snow]

i think he can be good in pvp when meta changes slightly

[glass ruin]

not now tho right

[graceful cradle]

There was no nerfs to units first off they were legit bugfixes that players were abusing to get clears. XD has messed up plenty but we also have to be able to hold the CCs accountable at some point. Clearly stealing a buff that wasn't intended to be stolen or the fact that even in beta Aurora had the immune to dot effects text even if it wasn't working. Then people tried to claim both units were shit afterwards (spoiler both are still insane)

[left snow]

blue teams are everywhere which counter red making most reds iffy

also too many dispels that dispel his shield

[glass ruin]

yea i can imagine

[left snow]

and since so many blues are running around he cant also reliably debuff atk

so his s2 is basically useless

[glass ruin]

also i feel like rta is just sr units running around

[left snow]

oh yeah

[graceful cradle]

The lattice thing in regards to lack of resources is no different from molas in E7 it's just a time gated resource it is what it is

[left snow]

rc 77, viper, yang etc are all great

[glass ruin]

a lot of sania users too

[left snow]

conveniently they are all blue

[warped kestrel]

Did these "bugfixes" not result in essentially a reduction of the characters' usefulness and strength? If they did, then I don't see how that's not fundamentally a nerf, in functionality at least

[glass ruin]

yea i just have no reason to use helkid rn i guess

or does he help me clear terror inferno lmao

[left snow]

no idea lol

not a big pve expert

[warped kestrel]

And the issue with making this distinction of "bug fixes" is that almost anything can be a bug fix if you want to call it that.

Revelation is being used in ways it wasn't intended to be used? It's a bug

Artisans are being stacked in a way that it wasn't intended to be stacked? It's a bug

etc

[left snow]

i havent even cleared ember trek hard yet

🤣

[graceful cradle]

They have not nerfed characters yet since the game launched

[glass ruin]

so lazy to do ember trek

[warped kestrel]

They reduced multiple characters' functionality when interacting with game features, so, it is fundamentally a nerf

If SSania was able to DOT Aurora before and she is no longer able to do that, that is essentially a nerf to SSania's functionality

[graceful cradle]

Lol you're being super disingenuous but surprise surprise

[warped kestrel]

How so?

[graceful cradle]

She was never supposed to be able to dot Aurora

[warped kestrel]

According to who, the dev who decided to nerf that?

That's the issue

This whole "never supposed" is subjective BS that anyone can make up last minute

Again

[graceful cradle]

You can literally go back to content from the past betas and read it yourself

[warped kestrel]

"Revelation was never supposed to be used the way it's being used, it's a bug"

"Arisans were never supposed to be used by multiple characters in the same team, it's a bug"

[graceful cradle]

She was always supposed to be immune to dots

[warped kestrel]

Anything can be a bug if you want to call it a bug

[carmine palm]

Veronika was directly balance changed, that wasn't a bugfix lol

[graceful cradle]

No Soul ward was directly changed

[gilded mason]

whats the new complaint guys

[warped kestrel]

I don't care about what betas said, the betas are test versions of the game. The game released a certain way, and changing anything is as much of a "bug fix" as it is a nerf. These 2 terms are not mutually exclusive.

[graceful cradle]

Because much like the forever immortal shit they removed from Amber before the game launched they didnt want people being able to keep units alive infinitely

[warped kestrel]

They should think about these things as they're coding them and be more careful, they shouldn't be completely incompetent releasing things without thinking about the second-level effects of what they're doing

Also

There's nothing wrong with nerfs

It's perfectly fine that they're nerfing things, but don't bullshit me with "it's a bugfix"

No, it's a mechanic that you designed to be exactly that way, and you don't want it to be used that way, so you're going to nerf it, fine.

[graceful cradle]

More mental gymnastics to fit shitty narratives lol what else is new

So much stupidity being thrown around in here no wonder the devs are just ignoring the channel

[warped kestrel]

Take your meds, man.

[graceful cradle]

I'm sure you also think that the saronite bombs weren't an exploit too.

[small knot]

No rumors please

[graceful cradle]

Just cuz Ensidia could doesn't mean it was intended

[warped kestrel]

Again, "bug fix" and "nerf" are not mutually exclusive terms, something can be both, a "bug fix" and a "nerf"

[half lodge]

@graceful cradle the revelations on supports clearly wasnt intended do you think there wouldnt be outtage if they bugfix it

[warped kestrel]

(I don't think any of the nerfs they've done are bug fixes, by the way, even the most egregious one, which was Xiada stealing the Doki boss buff, that was not a bug, they stupidly coded that buff to be a blue buff, that was a design oversight, and it was also a nerf to Xiada when they "fixed" it)

[graceful cradle]

We told them in the beta it was overtuned even for ST dps and they didn't address it probably cuz not enough data

So now we're stuck with it for 3 months

[warped kestrel]

They will absolutely nerf Revelations in the future, there is no way they will allow it to stay that way indefinitely. They just can't do it right now.

[small knot]

But that’s not a bug it’s just the devs being stupid and not putting restrictions on their shit

[warped kestrel]

*At least for PvP

[graceful cradle]

It's the most ironic form of malicious compliance

[pearl knot]

bosses need to lose hp to nerf Rev

[small knot]

Take for example e7 artifacts

[pearl knot]

way to tanky atm

[graceful cradle]

People cried about not being able to abuse an obvious exploit like this clown above

[small knot]

They just don’t work on other classes so they can’t abuse shit they’re not supposed to

[graceful cradle]

So now we're stuck with Rev meta

[half lodge]

Of course not its a lack of Proper foresight and lack of game design

[gilded mason]

Most of the issues with this game was just due to pure incompetence. No info in patch notes, so many bug fixes that should have been fixed in their multiple betas (why did they have so many betas and fix nothing?)

[pearl knot]

smd

[left snow]

they should tbh

for pvp at least

it is stupid lol

[graceful cradle]

Who tf are you

[pearl knot]

some random idiot like you man

[graceful cradle]

They can't. No nerfs for 3 months

[warped kestrel]

100%. Basically every issue I've seen have been pure incompetence and terrible decision-making

[graceful cradle]

If the shoe fits then wear it ig

[small knot]

No rumors please

God I love that quote

[graceful cradle]

That's not a rumor 🙂

[tidal arch]

Did i just read veronika didnt get nerfed? 🥀

[small knot]

Jack will cry

[pearl knot]

throat the game company harder man holy

[graceful cradle]

I'm the biggest critic of their screw ups

I'm just not a moron like you

[graceful juniper]

Wdym...her immortal buff cannot extended is a nerf

[errant dome]

been playing since reset and still have 300 stam left

[graceful cradle]

They hit every other live forever mechanic before the game went live to stop that exact scenario

[gilded mason]

Hes wiping his tears with your money

[errant dome]

god i hate this game

[graceful cradle]

Unless you all forget you used to be able to reset Amber

[errant dome]

someone free me

[warped kestrel]

No no, it's a "bug" because someone decided arbitrarily last minute that it wasn't supposed to be extended, so that magically makes it a "bug" instead of a dumb choice that wasn't thought-out properly, resulting in a nerf.

[small knot]

You mean with your money cus I sure as hell didn’t find ts

[gilded mason]

Just uninstall man

[gilded mason]

Sadly yes

[tidal arch]

So what? Veronika still got nerfed in the live game

[small knot]

[gilded mason]

I would like my money back

I knew the red flags going in tbh

[graceful cradle]

Soul Ward got nerfed Veronika is still very much used and good

[gilded mason]

Look at their website, it says "top up"

[graceful cradle]

And it was just the ability to live forever

[gilded mason]

Thats one red flag

[tidal arch]

It doesnt matter if she is good or not, she got nerfed

It's like saying, a nerf to rosa debuff is not a nerf to rosa? Bro what

[warped kestrel]

[small knot]

Nerfs happen in every turn based gacha with pvp get used to it

[tidal arch]

Who said i don't like nerf or buff? Im just saying she got nerfed because he said she doesnt

[small knot]

That’s what you signed up for when playing the game

[small knot]

Fair

[graceful cradle]

In case you missed the massive wall of nerfs before the game went live they were intentionally trying to stop players from being able to create scenarios where units were unkillable

Obviously they missed one

[carmine palm]

Took me a while to find the screenshots, but you are also wrong about Aurora having the immune to dot effects in beta. This was a balance change for launch. She was not (in text or in practice) immune to dots in the beta.

[inland chasm]

No i didnt ;-; (im jk)

[small knot]

Too bad now the units are too killable

[warped kestrel]

Yeah, nerfs are normal and even necessary in this type of game, the biggest issue people had with the nerfs was that they nerfed things people were working on very early into the launch, while people were already wasting resources building those strategies. That's terrible management and shows that they don't think or understand about the player experience. The fact we had to cry so hard for them to even add the reset event back to fix their mistake, is insane.

[graceful cradle]

Its okay people like that idiot will still cry despite all three units still being incredibly necessary in content

Literally crying just to cry. Eternal victims

[small knot]

Yk instead of reset event they should have just given us all our pulls back like with tribe nine

[graceful cradle]

Instead of complaining about actual shit that needs to be fixed

[small knot]

What 3 units got affected

[graceful cradle]

Like the unnecessary inferno buffs or the currencies being extremely scarce

[graceful cradle]

SSania Xiada and Veronika

[small knot]

Oh yeah

[graceful cradle]

You know the units you need for inferno clears lol

[tidal arch]

Thats like the main complain here bro almost 40k replies

[small knot]

When did this happen

[graceful cradle]

Like week 1 people still crying about it

[warped kestrel]

Or even better, they should've released the game in a state where they're confident that basic things are working as they want them to be working. How did Doki boss buff release as a blue buff, and how did Aurora release with DOT vulnerability? These are 2 of the most basic and essential stages in the game, you'd think they would have tested them enough to catch something that basic.

[small knot]

You think the devs know anything about basics?

[graceful juniper]

They give untested buff treshold right before launch

Yea aint no way they test this

[graceful cradle]

The Xiada stealing the buff is literally the lich king saronite bomb thing all over again. Just because you can doesn't make it any less of an exploit

[tidal arch]

Bro how much time till they nerf shadowflame hoyan bro i need jackal guards and revelations 😭

[small knot]

The devs don’t think

Fun fact

[graceful cradle]

They didn't test the changes at all

Otherwise we wouldn't be where we are rn

[small knot]

c stands for cocaine not communication because he represents how high the devs were when they made those changes post beta

[warped kestrel]

It is an exploit, everyone knows and understands that Xiada stealing a buff that makes her stronger than any character can even be, is an exploit. So what? Removing that exploit is still a nerf to Xiada's functionality.

[tidal arch]

Lmao

[left snow]

tbh you never use xiada s1 in a xiada doki tem

she uses only s3 throughout the entire run

[tidal arch]

Lily: hi

[left snow]

oh well except that lol

[warped kestrel]

People were running her with Lily, that's how they found out.

[left snow]

fair enough

[small knot]

Hey I use xiada s1 once in my entire run

[left snow]

really ?

[small knot]

Yes really

[left snow]

fair enough

[graceful juniper]

as a battlewill user yes we do XD

[small knot]

My team don’t buff enough to 3 stack on t2

[small knot]

People with Lily 💔 🥀

Ts pmo

[tribal osprey]

XD reached out to sponsor pretty much every hsr player. That was their target demographics clearly

[quaint marsh]

i actually became a Meme hahaha

[tidal arch]

We need a reset event to reset xiada for yeli thats all we need

[small knot]

Bold of you to assume people who built xiada have yeli

I certainly don’t

[tidal arch]

Reset her and wait for yeli then

[tribal osprey]

Then they shouldn't have sponsored hsr streamers/youtubers

[half lodge]

Exactly i AM also one of these people

Most people expected just more customers friendly expierence with no 50/50 and that's it

[lone ledge]

what does "already being monitored" mean

[graceful cradle]

What you aren't enjoying your consumer friendly experience of manual grinding?

[small knot]

It means already monitored as in past tense because no dev actually looks here anymore after the initial nerfs

[half lodge]

What do you mean

[graceful cradle]

We're quarantined

[warped kestrel]

The game is very generous, in my opinion. I have no complaints with the game's generosity in comparison to its competitors. The game has just made several terrible mistakes, the biggest one being Inferno difficulty - one that they still refuse to properly address.

[tribal osprey]

Dw they are monitoring

[half lodge]

Exactly

[small knot]

Their target demographic were people who were easy to manipulate

[graceful juniper]

hey no rumor plz

[graceful cradle]

A lot of people still have to manual their inferno clears

[small knot]

Hyv players just happen to fall under that category

[tribal osprey]

Exactly! Your voice matters in Etheria!

[half lodge]

Aaa sory i didnt understand your previous msg thanks for claryfying

[tidal arch]

I cant even clear then in manual ✌️

[small knot]

Lure them in with the sweet forbidden fruit of 100% guaranteed

[graceful cradle]

The lattice issue i expected coming from E7 that's still a bottleneck to this day. At least in ER SRs don't use the same mats as SSRs

But holy the struggle to 6* shit and the lack of credits/coins

[tribal osprey]

Not even. Most of the hoyo community hated it once they got to inferno

[half lodge]

Y the accunulation of problems

[half lodge]

Most would be stack on hell 3/4

[small knot]

Really I preferred e7 way of doing things because the shared resource means that I wouldn’t end up having a bunch of lattices for lower rarities that I wouldn’t be able to use on ssrs

[tribal osprey]

Yeah like tectone left at hell3

[graceful cradle]

That's a fair complaint on the flip side of things

I hated Molaing 4*s that I couldn't use in pvp

Real talk why are R micro lattice harder to get than purples

[small knot]

Maybe because you only ever get them from like 1 shop

[graceful cradle]

Mhm

[small knot]

They don’t hand them out at all

[gilded mason]

Im an e7 day 1 player and even i hate the way they designed their inferno

Never had so many issues just clearinf wyvern, golem and banshee

In this game its just depressing

[graceful cradle]

Yeah i know Year 1 was rough but at least they had like good options to premium chars everyone could have (before they nerfed them rip Elson Tieria and Corvus)

[tribal osprey]

Cause there are less rares than sr

[small knot]

Etheria should just do what e7 does

[graceful cradle]

This is literally pull SSania to do this the second you hit 50

[gilded mason]

It wasnt even hard to clear the 3 farm bosses with what we had

Cuz easily obtainable units could clear it

[small knot]

If you’re going to make a unit that does really well in pve farming stages

Give it to the player for free

[coarse dirge]

i raised 2 lv40 alicorns rerolled with good passives

i figured since there are no good red cleanser units, it would be nice to use alicorns for the cleanse + eff res buff so they can get rid of the unhealable + def shred debuff and get big heals from my chiaki + dmg reduction

[small knot]

And don’t gatekeep it

[coarse dirge]

guess what happened guys

[gilded mason]

Exactly

[coarse dirge]

[tribal osprey]

Yep. Then we have the white knights saying you should expect to clear inferno in a month... Stares at ssania

[small knot]

Getting units like vivian for banshee and Sigurd for wyvern makes the game a lot easier rather than having to reroll for them so you can farm the stages

[graceful cradle]

Like this shit tilts me so hard

[coarse dirge]

giving guide to ssania lily is crazy

hey thanks man

appreciate it

[half lodge]

Just pull sania lily

[tribal osprey]

"it ain't easy being me"

[graceful cradle]

This guy got it good for that

[gilded mason]

Me only clear inferno terro at 70 iirc

[tribal osprey]

Suffering from success

[graceful cradle]

There's people who are still struggling to kill inferno terror and he just comes in on his fresh rerolled acct lol

[gilded mason]

Its just ssania

Another reason why i think devs have no clue what they doing

You dont see people using kiris to cheese wyvern do you?

[outer falcon]

I'm breaking containment

Take the fight to general chat

[graceful cradle]

Even now they actively design new abyss stages to not be cheesed by Kiris

[gilded mason]

Yeah but its abyss

[inland warren]

Will follow you until we get all banned

[gilded mason]

Its supposed to be hard

[graceful cradle]

Which ofc will be the natural progression here dw

Just wait for Inferno 2

[half lodge]

What does kiris do from curiosity

[graceful cradle]

[graceful cradle]

What SSania does

[gilded mason]

Basically 3 star ssania

NOT AN SSR BTW

An R unit

[coarse dirge]

like i've been genuinely trying to make this work for a few days now

[gilded mason]

That not gonna work man

[tidal arch]

Youre close

[coarse dirge]

i even spent 6 mil training data for these 2 fukers

[tidal arch]

They look good at least

[coarse dirge]

i even spent 12 lattices forr my red chiaki

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-honor-funeral-fallen-soldier-gif-27671644

[inland warren]

Terror is all about dmg. Just improve dps shells and you will burst him down

[coarse dirge]

yeah thanks man

my bad for not killing the boss in 2 turns

i guess i should've pull for ssania or hoyan

[gilded mason]

Yeah scrub follow the game design

[half lodge]

Tbh a team of 33 srs newest dmg dealer and stil fant even clear on manual is both sad and funny

[graceful cradle]

You'd be better off using diting i feel

[gilded mason]

Kill it in 2 turns

Cmon

[tidal arch]

Why alicorns and not artisans tho

[coarse dirge]

to farm inferno you must farm inferno gear

[small knot]

Only 50% away! Gee whizz the 20% hp nerf sure helped everyone clear inferno terror!

[half lodge]

More dmg

[inland warren]

Next time get better

[graceful cradle]

Incredible design amirite

[outer falcon]

Exactly! Your voice matters a lot to Etheria.

[cold bluff]

This team also works

~ 5 min runs

but its auto

[graceful cradle]

Ah yes just use a unit literally no one used a selector on

[coarse dirge]

LMAO

[inland warren]

Diting + khloros, invest in their shells and kill the boss

[outer falcon]

Who the hell does the damage, Holden?

[small knot]

Anyways yeli is not the dps to be running for terror

[inland warren]

It's tbat easy

[graceful juniper]

Yea this is just skill issue....just pull ssania on your first 10 pull,its that easy

[inland warren]

Actually you have lily, you dont need khloros

[indigo oyster]

should i target rosa? currently dont have a B ST DPS(holy abbre) or celine so i can somewhat dip my toe in inferno hoyan

[coarse dirge]

honestly yeah i can see that working

[small knot]

Cachi my goat

[coarse dirge]

slow ahh run

[graceful cradle]

Real talk who here used a selector on Mia

[small knot]

Just run diting khloros comp

[graceful cradle]

Raise your hand lol

[small knot]

Why would you ever

[coarse dirge]

according to the game this diting is absolute dogshit

[graceful cradle]

Exactly lol

[cold bluff]

yeah

[coarse dirge]

so my bad for having a dogshit gear

[outer falcon]

Are you serious?

[graceful cradle]

Thats why that team comp is unreliable cannot do it without her

[tidal arch]

Fuck diting, yeli better

[outer falcon]

For some reason I can believe it even though it's not true

[graceful cradle]

But unless you lucked into her most can't emulate

[outer falcon]

I have brain damage

[graceful cradle]

CtG and Chiaki are good though

Highly recommend investing in them

[graceful juniper]

Mia is good....i got baited to pull beyontin

[graceful cradle]

I didn't say she wasn't

Just no one used a selector on her so that team comp is likely unable to be recreated

[graceful juniper]

Yea she good choice...just really good healer+cdr

[half lodge]

Do cachi extend chiaki BUFF?

[civic cloak]

wake up devs

[graceful cradle]

She's great in Aurora too

[graceful cradle]

Yeah they both can extend em

[small knot]

If only Mia heal wasn’t on 5t cd

She would be so much better

[graceful cradle]

Also yeah Mia requires lattice investment

[graceful juniper]

Timeweaver baby

[graceful cradle]

Not the kind of thing we wanna use rn

At least on her S2 for Aurora

Idek what her Terror clear needs

[small knot]

S2

[graceful cradle]

Ah so 3 lattice either way

[small knot]

She wants 8 lattice

[graceful cradle]

Oh yuck nty lol

That remaining 4 going to my Yeli still

[small knot]

I’m focusing on kloss s3 rn

That is

[half lodge]

I wake up tommorow and i AM eagerly waiting for some positive news annoucnemnt for the game

[small knot]

If the game doesn’t eos before I get the lattices

[graceful cradle]

No news

That's the announcement

[small knot]

Haha you’re funny

[outer falcon]

They did announce a future announcement

In ask the staff

[small knot]

The announcement is eos

[half lodge]

@graceful cradle @gilded mason do E7 have a competetive scenę and tournaments made by devs?

[tribal osprey]

Summoners war does

[small knot]

E7wc

[gilded mason]

https://epic7.onstove.com/en/esports/e7wc/2025

[small knot]

E7 World Cup

Yk I should really stop talking

I need to finish hsr events

[half lodge]

Oh so they do thanks

Was curious

[tribal osprey]

See you in 10 hours🫡

[outer falcon]

Wow Heal is almost at 3k in rumble

[inland warren]

You mean this? @outer falcon

[graceful cradle]

Yup E7WC prelims happening rn

[outer falcon]

Yeah lmao

[graceful cradle]

I need to grind more points today actually

[inland warren]

Announcement of the announcement?

[small knot]

What I don’t get is why they think it’s ok to have weekends off???

[outer falcon]

My favorite kind of announcement

[small knot]

Ccp strike them down this instant!

[graceful cradle]

More like announcement that they could make an announcement

Reality is they won't say anything more than likely til Wednesday if we were getting anything

[inland warren]

Lmao

[small knot]

Jokes aside I find it funny that to my prioritize their health when their game is crashing and burning every second that they push back announcements on more inferno nerfs

[graceful cradle]

Because if we don't like what they change then we'd pressure them to fix it in a few days

[graceful cradle]

Yeah even blizzard forces their employees to the office when everything is on fire

[small knot]

Iirc kuro worked overtime to apply emergency fixes on launch for wuwa

[chilly iron]

I thought I was increasing continuous battle time and I use all my metal stabilizer , I am fine because I had 13 but if it was in my main account i would have been too mad because I have 50+ in my main

[inland warren]

Obviously we wont like what they have to say. They cannot get ONE announcement right 🤣

[graceful cradle]

Then again that's probably also indicative of why they ended up the way they are now lol

[graceful cradle]

Rip your nat stam regen

[half lodge]

Why to Play 2 accs?

[graceful cradle]

For twice the suffering

Or to pull SSania and hate how much you spent on your main

[small knot]

For twice the chance to not get Lily

[inland warren]

To see what playing with lily feels like

[chilly iron]

For lily

[half lodge]

Makes sense

[chilly iron]

I barely play my main

[inland warren]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's so fucking sad

[small knot]

The game makes you think Lily is attainable

[chilly iron]

I don't have lily

[small knot]

Fret not

[inland warren]

We all got it right. This is how sad this game is

[small knot]

Lily actually isn’t in the pool of units

[graceful cradle]

As a lily haver lemme tell you I wish I had SSania over Lily

[small knot]

You were scammed

[inland warren]

I have ssania but refuse to build her

[graceful cradle]

I respect the solidarity

[tribal osprey]

They did

[small knot]

Ok I actually gotta go play hsr

[chilly iron]

I pulled lily in my second account so I play that account

[small knot]

I hate hsr man why are events so tedious

[outer falcon]

I can't wait for the follow-up announcement throwing us a gnawed bone after the first announcement doesn't do enough

Who's taking bets?

[warped kestrel]

Lily is the strongest and most versatile character in this game, she is tier 0/SSS in every single piece of content, she fulfills the role of several characters simultaneously.

[graceful cradle]

The only bet I'll take is there'll be angy videos on YouTube Thursday morning

[chilly iron]

When is next patch notes

[graceful cradle]

Thursday morning

[inland warren]

Who's gonna tell him?

[chilly iron]

Le see if they fix game economy or not

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[inland warren]

It's not a guarantrr

[half lodge]

Is E7 qorth to start playing vasually? As a mostly gym game? @graceful cradle @gilded mason

[graceful cradle]

Anniversary is next week

[inland warren]

I did. The game looks fucking great

[graceful cradle]

It's already very f2p friendly especially during NYE and anniversary

[inland warren]

And the story is "interesting" enough to play it

[graceful cradle]

The current issues with E7 are all end game high end pvp stuffs

[tribal osprey]

Nah bro. The white knights told me they cleared without lily. She is garbage character and you shouldn't try to get her

[graceful cradle]

So it shouldn't affect you any time soon

[half lodge]

I really like it thebskill animations thebinterfacw looked really outdaded by the overall progression loop as i understood is much better

[graceful cradle]

And even then people are still climbing super high in ranking on brand new accounts with a solid understanding of the meta

[half lodge]

Wasnt there like a huge amount of changes announced 2/3 daysbago?

[graceful cradle]

I wouldn't be able to clear Hoyan without lily but thats also probably true for celince too

That said still wish I had Ssania over lily

[tribal osprey]

Nah bro. They told me that was a skill issue. They cleared it with asshu

[graceful cradle]

No those aren't changes

Thats the first half of the anniversary event

[graceful cradle]

Shiiet. True

[chilly iron]

It is worth , because you will get so much free units and pulls + 3 ml 5 gurrented for new players and if you are lucky you can get 3 -4 ml5 from 100 summon

[warped kestrel]

Having Lily in a 4-man team is like having at least a 6-man team, including an extra DPS, for the stats of a support. Having Lily in a 5-man team is like having at least a 7-man team, including an extra DPS character at the gear requirement of a support.
Lily is absolutely disgustingly overpowered and borderline necessary to play this game in a humane way.

[graceful cradle]

Tbh I've never understood this complaint about the ui. I always hear it from Raid players too

[tribal osprey]

Is that good? Never played e7

[outer falcon]

I don't know about dated or outdated, because summoners war has a more clear and useful interface despite looking like an RPG from 2005

[half lodge]

I AM ui/ux designer as a job

[chilly iron]

Depends on what you are playing for

[graceful cradle]

I think the UI is fine but that's cuz I played actual relics like grand summoners, GBF and FGO

[tribal osprey]

Man this game is a really good advertisement.... For e7

[outer falcon]

The ER interface was so focused on making itself look like a slick Hoyo clone that they forgot you need to be able to TOUCH the touch targets and READ the TEXT

[chilly iron]

That game is outdated but still fun honeymoon period for new players

[graceful cradle]

Well Etheria is HEAVILY inspired by E7

[tribal osprey]

Nah bro. Zoro told me they weren't targeting the hoyo players

[graceful cradle]

So much so they even chose to emulate Epic Seven's disastrous year 1! That way you could experience the despair like it was just yesterday from 7 years ago

[outer falcon]

When I installed the beta and had to start running through PvE content I started malding. If it hadn't let me skip story sections I would've uninstalled

[graceful cradle]

Ofc it's in a much better spot now in terms of the on-boarding experience most of the issues are end game pvp issues if you struggle to adapt

[tribal osprey]

Yep. Etheria devs are time travelers. They are now competing against e7 and sw from 2018

[chilly iron]

Pvp is getting p2w after every unit released

[graceful cradle]

Don't worry they have 7 years to fix Etheria too!!

Just with 30x the competitors compared to 2018

[tribal osprey]

Just in time for the 2025 release

[outer falcon]

I was shocked to come back to SW last year and see a best in class reactive tutorial chain and I was also shocked to see ER launch without one

[graceful cradle]

That's what no nerfs will do

[tribal osprey]

Cause they are fighting 2018 sw not 2025 sw

You don't understand their game

[chilly iron]

It will die in a year if dev went on that roadmap

[graceful cradle]

But I mean outside of maybe Tene most things do have some sort of soft answers. Rinak a lot less than others

[warped kestrel]

Yep, every one of these gachas need to start with that if they want to compete. People should be hand-held through the crappy autofarmable PvE content in a PvP game. It's 2025, not 2016.

This game clearly tried - that's what Lian and the questline for Lian, which is focused on Terro, was trying to do

[graceful cradle]

Lmao every time people bring up that stupid comparison I'm like lol you're not going to get years to fix these mistakes, at best it'll be months

[warped kestrel]

But apparently someone's brains got fried in the development process and ditched that entire essential project

[graceful cradle]

It's not the same climate as 2018

[tribal osprey]

Nah bro just build Andrew. Lian clears with andrew

[outer falcon]

I'm still hardstuck on clear Sharon inferno for the main hyperlink quest book although tbf I have Celince and haven't even tried to enter it yet because I'm lazy af

And it's only like halfway through the book lmao

[graceful cradle]

Celince won't help you there

Gotta actually sleep those adds

Or push them back

[outer falcon]

Oh is she useful in Hoyan? I can't remember

[tribal osprey]

Hoyan

[outer falcon]

I have not been bothered to learn which is which

Aah ok

[graceful cradle]

Yeah she's Hoyan

[outer falcon]

Fuck Sharon forever then

[chilly iron]

We have got many alternatives gacha games , in 2018 there were not many gacha games that's why e7 and sw survived

[graceful cradle]

Yeah all my homies hate Sharon

[tribal osprey]

See that's the difference between you and a giga Chad white knight. The white knight never forgets

[graceful cradle]

Tbh I didn't even think E7 was making it out of 2018

[warped kestrel]

At this point I'm just 10x autoing Nico and Hoyan with a 100% wr thanks to my overpowered(for that content) SSania. I'll just keep doing that in the background until they fix the game or until I get bored and leave them to go back to SW/E7.

[outer falcon]

Barcode is about to drop a video on me about how pussy I am for not solo clearing it with No. 41

[graceful cradle]

The culmination of that year 1 ending with the Tower and Diene drama

[tribal osprey]

True

[graceful cradle]

I thought it was cooked