inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[small knot]

[chilly iron]

First part of aniversary starting from 7 July

[small knot]

July?

[stable dagger]

you mean July?

[chilly iron]

July

My bad

I do like Etheria hopefully dev listen and don't ruin this game

[inland warren]

I'm downloading e7 already

Nothing to do in etheria anyway

I'm just autoing nico nana until i'll find a decent white fang

3000 stamina in rn

[small knot]

Does anyone have the funny jack quotes saved as pictures

If so can you send them to me

The no rumors picture

And the your voice matters picture

[chilly iron]

This thread has become a chat section for people

[inland warren]

It is

It's a way to bump it so it always stay visible and not forgotten

They will have to either fix the game or ban us all

[tiny sage]

Also this is better then general

no slow mode

and general chat nothing of substance is being discussed

[pure junco]

At this point we just write anything here in the "monitored" thread hehe

[main elm]

are we gonna reach 3k by the end of this dogfest event

Sharon is such a little cuck boss

[azure hare]

gotta build up that khloros

[main elm]

already in

boss is so shit that u have to bring 3 defensive supports

and still have a high chance of dying

[azure hare]

you got hellkid? i sustain the whole fight with unskilled mia, hellkid and cachi

[main elm]

hellkid, more like lulkid

1 tap from any mob in there or boss and his shield is gone, they strip

only way is buff stacking

he only have like 1 buff every 4-5 turns

[tiny sage]

Probably yeah someone will

[weak meteor]

who did u use for apate

[chilly iron]

You are a beast man , I barely reached 800

[small knot]

Anyone please

[main elm]

diting freya lily mio kloss

[ruby canyon]

i'll see when i pull and build yeli, literally only have 2 dps atm

[graceful cradle]

3rd

[frozen stone]

[undone vortex]

why is this so condescending 💀

[outer falcon]

"still" makes it sound like you're pathetic for being stuck lol

[main elm]

who tf is Artiar

[left snow]

Probably some cc

[pallid rose]

devs are laughing at you

[ruby canyon]

it's a hell 4 guide lmao

[errant mountain]

No fucking way

[young zealot]

It’s definitely a bot behind that twitter account

[true trench]

more hell4 guides is what we really need

preferably with lily and dotter teams

[pure junco]

Problem solved

We finally got our answers guys

[thick arch]

yes just replace dot with dot

ez hell4 omg

totally not already killing nico under 1m with diting

that second guide so op for nico inferno

[inland warren]

Under 1m with lily maybe

No lily you are looking at 3m runs

[thick arch]

I'm just gonna wait for S10 at this point when they release ssania 2.0 like Roseli

[small knot]

Bold of you to assume the game would last that long

[thick arch]

tho still won't fix the issue of delusional devs needing everyone to play 12 hours a day to complete dailys + events

[quick sapphire]

I legit don't know how I'm going to clear Tera inferno without SSania, every clear without her just has insane speeds, and my 301 lily doesn't even cut it lol

[thick arch]

srsly need a skip like most gatchas. Who decided to be stuck in last decade. Who calls a game where 80-90% of regular time spent on PvE with maxed gear called a PvP game

[mental mural]

How much do you think they'll make this month?

[small knot]

It’s honeymoon phase so I think minimum $100k

[thick arch]

idk if those lists remove refunds

[small knot]

I have guild mates who spent $1000 minimum on the game and I know there’s way more

[thick arch]

and beta spending too

[small knot]

Do I think they earned 1 mil

Honestly no

But I wouldn’t be surprised if they did

Whales spend a lot

[thick arch]

or if they count the duplicate purchases

[small knot]

And there are clearly a lot of whales

[inland warren]

Doesnt matter how much they make this month

[thick arch]

true

[inland warren]

Next month it's going to be painful

[thick arch]

we need real tangible changes

[inland warren]

While the game is in maintenance mode (running niconana inferno for the foreseable future) i've downloaded e7

Maybe one day i'll pull lily and be able to partecipate in pvp

[pure junco]

Lol once again this is turning into e7 chat

Almost makes me wanna get back into it

[inland warren]

I mean, there's anything to talk about this game? It's just venting and memeing about the lack of communication from the developers

Maybe when yeli banner ends, they will say something. For the time being, we chilling

[azure hare]

you heavily underestimate spending

their shitty SoC pulled in $10M first month

[small knot]

Are we deadass

[azure hare]

$10M to $3M down to $1M

[small knot]

Is it too much to pray for the release of a rgb dot unit

[thick arch]

the money says make ssania 2.0

roseli is making bank for sure

[small knot]

Whales won’t like that

[inland warren]

Fuck that. I aint pulling nor building a dot unit

I have ssania but refused to build her

[small knot]

They want their shiny SSania toy to remain exclusive

[inland warren]

Because i dislike dot and i should be able to clear FARMABLE content with any character i want

[small knot]

Your principle ig

[inland warren]

If not, this game can fuck right off

[pure junco]

Exactly

[thick arch]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-james-jessie-prepare-for-trouble-and-make-it-double-gif-5321435

[small knot]

You best believe the moment I get Lily or SSania I’m turning into a white knight

https://tenor.com/view/tarjeta-de-credito-credit-card-gif-19426010

[pure junco]

That's why it's like more than general

[graceful raven]

i doubt they'd ever directly address the players lol

[thick arch]

why not both

[small knot]

You’re right

[thick arch]

hanyaCheer

[small knot]

They would never

[graceful raven]

their industry standard Mr. Tencent does not care at all when it comes to communicating with players, just look at how they handled Nikke in the early days

[pure junco]

Even if they do, it'll be PR speak which already sucks

[small knot]

Pr speeches are better than monotone deadpan patch notes

And better than their passive aggressive tweets

Still struggling to clear? Try this guide for hell 4 terror

[pure junco]

That's okay

[thick arch]

bets on who's first to be power crept between ssania, lily, and kloss?

[pure junco]

We have Artiar

He'll save us

[graceful raven]

0 response

from developers

[small knot]

Ssania

[thick arch]

they have CCP holding gun over them

no options

[small knot]

Ccp has no censorship wdym

[outer falcon]

What are you talking about

You think the CCP is saying "you must not communicate about your game"

[graceful raven]

Tencent basically normalised P2W in CN games

Hoyo was an exception

[small knot]

Hoyoverse is p2w tho

You want those shiny new genshin weapon skins? Just get c6r5 on every character!

[graceful raven]

not as aggressive compared to other companies imo

[thick arch]

genshin had skins?

[small knot]

Just got skins in new update iirc

But they can only be obtained for like a month if you clear highest difficulty

Which is meant for top 0.1% whales

And then you have hsr

[thick arch]

I mean genshin difficulty is just have the newest character max star

[small knot]

Insane take btw

It’s 12 am and I am making stupid takes

How can a pve game be p2w

What am I even talking about

It’s time I put myself to rest

[outer falcon]

Competitive leaderboards

[pure junco]

Meanwhile in HI3 I can get free outfits by logging in or doing events

[small knot]

There’s no leaderboard in genshin

[graceful raven]

i see you here 24/7

[small knot]

Or hsr

There is in hi3

But who really plays that game anyways

[outer falcon]

For real? Why the hell does anybody play that shit

[small knot]

Ssshhhhh

[thick arch]

fomo

[graceful raven]

hoyo games are catered to casual people

[small knot]

For the lore and story

Which I also think is shit

[graceful raven]

who just want to enjoy pve

[pure junco]

Honkai fans

[outer falcon]

Dawg books exist and they're actually good

[small knot]

Are Honkai fans even real

[graceful raven]

it takes a special kind of masochism to force yourself into a PvP game like this one

[outer falcon]

Pvp is fun, although tournaments are already a dead game mode

[pure junco]

🤷‍♂️ idk if they liked the lore I guess

[outer falcon]

It took me 3 tourneys to max rewards and every single one was 7 winner frames and 1 guy who didn't know he had to click prepare

No new blood 4 weeks in

It's joever

[jolly relic]

most are still busy farming

[small knot]

No I swear Honkai fans hype it up so much but then I play the game and I’m like wtf is going on

[outer falcon]

Saturday is tourney day! Then you farm after

[graceful raven]

people cant possibly play pvp without gear lol

[thick arch]

I know. Ever read how to make a mlm scheme marketed as a gatcha?

[outer falcon]

Most people are drafting their Doki inferno teams anyway

[small knot]

I just chased like a fucking ghost of my imagination for an entire chapter and next thing I know I went from training in school to fighting a dragon and turning into a god

[outer falcon]

Is that a real book? Would be funny

[thick arch]

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-21177622

PvP?

[small knot]

Muh luh muh

I love muh luh muh

[graceful raven]

as of now, it is DvP, devs vs players and the devs cant stop winning

that's why they're silent

[small knot]

You mean pve cus clearly its players versus the ai that devs used to make this game

[graceful raven]

their AI on certain units makes me vomit blood

[left snow]

lmao that was really good

i hope this dvp doesnt become a legit genre

[pure junco]

It's even worse if you played GGZ. Homu Labs will help if you're lost on lore bits

[small knot]

I AM muh luh muh

[graceful raven]

whole army of gacha fans lining up to play the newest DvP

[small knot]

I never played

[main elm]

I get it if u coming from E7 to this game and compare shit

But coming from hoyo games into this is like living in UAE and moving into Iran during it's war with Israel, then complain about missiles shouldn't be part of the game

[small knot]

In fact I didn’t even know about it until after I installed and quit hi3

[left snow]

etheria 2: Replay

[main elm]

So HSR enjoyers, what the fuck are u doing in Etherea restart, just go back to ur game bluds

[small knot]

I wanted to say something

But I don’t enjoy playing hsr

[main elm]

That's fair, it makes u not an HSR enjoyer

[small knot]

I play hsr just to gacha

To satisfy my cravings

[graceful raven]

im a maplestory enjoyer, why does the gear in this game not blow up and have fail chance to upgrade, thats too generous

[small knot]

The itch

[small knot]

true

[main elm]

Lost ark system

[thick arch]

Get investment. Take players money. Give investors money. Host player driven events to make content that would cost real money to make (art,skin concept, guide videos, infopic, spreadsheet, etc). Give player fake money (in-game number/gem). Profit

[small knot]

+15 5% success rate

If you fail the module is scrapped and no refund

[left snow]

i swear half of the playerbase is poe players

so they dont care about long grinds

[graceful raven]

they should make shells blow up if fail to upgrade as well

[left snow]

and pve being too grindy

[graceful raven]

got the perfect combination of module sets? too bad

[left snow]

my cousin plays 20-30 hours of poe in 1 sitting

grinding his gear

[small knot]

Passive reroll has chance to scrap shell

[left snow]

has been doğing that since new season released

[graceful raven]

it's more like, its a given for this kind of games so why complain

if you have limited time, and cant spend all day on a game, then play another one lol

[main elm]

30hr in 1 session, that's grinding ur ass from sitting for that long

[graceful raven]

make it so that it rerolls all 3 passive skills

not just one

and if you want to lock 1 skill, it costs double

[left snow]

poe players are basement dwellers idk what else to say

[graceful raven]

if you lock 2 skills, it costs triple

[left snow]

ive never seen a game where people call you beginner when you play a game for 2k hours

you legit see reddit posts where people are saying i am new to the game "only 1k hours played"

🤣

[main elm]

It's ok I did worse in Diablo3 release

Even worse in WOTLK release

[left snow]

some people are playing for 10-20k hours but never getting mirror drop

i am so glad i quit playing poe

[outer falcon]

Try Warframe

[thick arch]

chess call you beginner after 100k hours

[main elm]

Though are we comparing this gacha to diablo like games and mmorpgs tho ?

[outer falcon]

No

Those are fun

[left snow]

well people defending the inferno farms must be diablo or poe players

[outer falcon]

And your friends don't quit in 1 week

[left snow]

with how long it takes

to grind gear

[devout crag]

I saw you in fearless arena earlier

[outer falcon]

Yeah you can tell every single one of them takes great pride in being a freak of nature obsessed with PvE clearing

[graceful raven]

there's an easy fix to this, just remove Inferno, and rename Hell 4 to Inferno, game is saved

[main elm]

Nah man, I'm super hardcore in WoW and I will never defend inferno

[thick arch]

yes you kill stuff in those games. they are hack and slash. this is smash start and watch you lose to bs

[main elm]

Oh, just went in to get my weekly champ and get out, didn't pay attention to the names lol

[devout crag]

Yeah same, but I just watched the match and the other guy’s yeli just one shot your entire team

[outer falcon]

Oh it's Sterbby

[devout crag]

I got clapped

[outer falcon]

Is he actually good?

[main elm]

Any DPS with revelation 1 shot any team basically

[devout crag]

Yeah

[outer falcon]

His YouTube tier lists are moronic so I never would've thought

[devout crag]

He’s level 87

That’s the highest level I’ve seen so far

[outer falcon]

Yeah he's a huge whale

[main elm]

He got lucky coz my Rosa didn't get any CR push due to enemy resisting

[left snow]

do we have level 90s yet

i am chilling at 81-82 range

[thick arch]

maybe someone that used 100+ pots during 2x

[devout crag]

I don’t think so

But by tmr someone will prob reach 90 if not 89

[azure hare]

?

[thick arch]

wait nevermind 2x didn't give 2x exp

[dreamy cliff]

88 here

[left snow]

give me those coins

[graceful raven]

thats enough to upgrade like 20 gears

[azure hare]

hes in the shell mines

get to work

[left snow]

i use my coins instantly

[dreamy cliff]

No pls i had 36m earlier

[thick arch]

what are coins?

[left snow]

you are an oligarch

share please

[dreamy cliff]

Went through rolling all my modules from inferno x2 event

I had 2900, now 200 left

96 bottles of stamina worth in terror inferno

Yet not a single cr or cd furyedge module sadge

[thick arch]

we need a 10x coin event

or add it to the 2x

[left snow]

bruh

thats depressing

[dreamy cliff]

Been farming terror ever since x2 event still none once I get one I then have to farm a furyedge shell

Which will take another 30 days lmao

[left snow]

i dont even use furyedge

everybody is on swiftraid

[dreamy cliff]

I cant farm doki inferno consistantly

No xiada no rosa

Messiah with a very good set on rev is about 30% wr

[left snow]

wow really ?

[dreamy cliff]

Yeah

[left snow]

i know a guy who switched from mocha to mass to make it more consistent

curious what he is doing now

because if its only 30% thats shit lmfao

his mocha was like 70%

and 40-50 s clears

[dreamy cliff]

Lol rip, I got mocha with 4x dupes on her

But no lattice for her

Someday we'll get a nerf to this stupid 120% resistance bs and 10% innate resist

And mocha will be good there

10% resist innate should be in PvP not in PvE it's such bs

Especially when theres a 90% dmg reduction with a 120% resist buff on mobs

[left snow]

also its kinda not fair since multihitters get such a huge advantage

like they can make that 90% hit chance 99% or higher

but single hitters struggle

[thick arch]

this is what I really hate

[dreamy cliff]

Messiah on rev is ok but xiada and rosa gets so much more value too

Milti hits op

[left snow]

yeah but pretty sure they are gonna nerf it next season of rta

i dont think they would touch rev on season

with how many people abusing rev teams

[thick arch]

in 3 months lol

[left snow]

yeah but those people would probably just quit the game if their comps suddenly became shit

i think if they are gonna nerf pvp builds

nerf tiamat on revive shell cringe first

that thing gotta be cringier than ssania

[azure hare]

at least this is something unique

and not freyas on rev (abuser here)

[thick arch]

my Freya is still lv1

[mellow crystal]

So what’s the general consensus of complaints for inferno difficulty?

[lyric wasp]

Try put strive on obol. I saw some strat use kazuyo + strive to cut the team in middle.

[warped stump]

it'd be nice if they removed the 10% resist from pve

its one of the things that used to bother the shit out of me in sw and its back to haunt me again

[mellow crystal]

Are there teams outside that don’t use Lily or SSania to clear inferno. Every Sharon inferno clear uses Lily…

[thick arch]

they got too much atk killing everything without artisan and def buff cope. And bs ramping mechanics are still forcing anything (not full tank/sustain 5m+ runs) to be super specific lily + x teams for literally 97% of all inferno runs you see on new page. I will see 1 non lily in 40 runs or higher

[nova island]

sharon seems almost impossible without lily or crazy lattices on doki etc

[warped stump]

i think in dokidoki you can run some xiada/tsukiyo mi/freya/kazuyo/lingluo team but i dont know the exact modules for it

and in terror... i don't think lily is required but you're gonna need hella damage with a holden/valerian/kloss or dinah setup with two strong dds (i'd imagine diting khloros could do it, but i need to test still, im out of mats to build stuff 😭 )

for aurora gl that shit is difficult even with the premium units

[thick arch]

doki and niko are the only ones I can enjoy

[mellow crystal]

Yeah Doki doki inferno seems somewhat doable except when the mobs resist my 140% acc Kazuyo that’s always fun. There are some inferno that seem impossible tho like anima said. I cant progress charter cause it requires me to clear nightmare Sharon which is impossible for me without Lily

[thick arch]

mostly nico

[mellow crystal]

Yup

[warped stump]

kazuyo needs 225 acc

ur 85 acc short

[mellow crystal]

Those are the two I can do currently

[thick arch]

doki is still RNG fest cause 8 mobs with 10% innate res

[mellow crystal]

Wait why that much

Ohhh that’s why

[warped stump]

to overcome the boss res + when you're 100 acc over enemy res your activations double making her s3 extremely reliable

for my experience, i have seen kazuyo miss a s3 sleep like almost never

[mellow crystal]

I thought getting 100% doubled the chances

Huh interesting math they do

[warped stump]

oh and its not 120 res, its 160

[thick arch]

100% yes, but enemy eff res subtracts your eff acc

[warped stump]

iirc the extra 65 acc gives you 100 activation barely, but idr the exact math on it

[mellow crystal]

I see

Guess me thinking I was over capping wasn’t the problem lol

Well I’m going to go get some lunch. I shall return eventually once I bang my head against more inferno content

[warped stump]

this is my kazuyo for reference

farms inferno consistently

[drowsy gust]

Not dead but lately haven't had the energy to come here

[warped stump]

was a fair bit slower before that (probably like +130?)

[thick arch]

nope just bs res. If there wasn't so much res we could afford 1 eff acc 2 hp% and not have our controller's one shot without artisan shield

[drowsy gust]

5 people in my guild chose to wait until guild war was over to quit the game and I expect that to cause a death spiral for my guild

[warped stump]

when you're fast enough and on tweave so your kazuyo (and probable kloss or freya) can move ahead of the adds, artisan stops being nearly as important - i don't even run it in my doki inferno team

cause then kazuyo can maintain atk break pretty reliably and either kloss can cycle her skills or freya can keep def buff up decent uptime

[split halo]

The shell farming is soo painful

[warped stump]

which both help a ton

[thick arch]

oh you use one shot mocha build?

[warped stump]

naw i run massiah (but am switching to xiada since i want to free massiah for other content)

both teams are fairly consistent

[plain cargo]

which shell?

[warped stump]

jackal guard

[drowsy gust]

I think I might peace out soon too since my guild is death spiralling and when Yeli dropped I was able to get her super early without spending anything and I just felt nothing I think that's my sign I should just dip

[warped stump]

don't play the game if you're not having fun

it is what it is

[drowsy gust]

I had a lot of fun in the beta. So much fun I was willing to hold out for maybe a big 180 back to those times

But I'm tired of making excuses to keep playing

[warped stump]

yeah, if you're looking to go back to oneshotting inferno easily then that's probably never coming back

[drowsy gust]

Like I don't think this game is gonna EOS anytime soon like some people are saying but I think they really blew their chance to really become something big

[warped stump]

the direction they have chosen is to make it so you must slowly build up to inferno farm (or build dots and cheese it with either a premium SSR or highly invested SRs)

[lyric wasp]

Afaik, even some of player said using hoyan to nuke inferno terror kinda hit and miss. Means, there's no consistency to that

[warped stump]

ok yeah that team has been known to be hella inconsistent

people saying you can farm with that were on diabolical levels of misinformation or straight malarkey

[lyric wasp]

Right

[warped stump]

hoyan has to get hit by the arm and the boss for that team to work lmao

1/5 chance to even fire, 1/5 times your diting instantly dies then you lose, and 3/5 you can just find yourself in deep shit

[tall saddle]

uninstalled today after GW. Hope the devs will listen o7

[drowsy gust]

I still got a little over a month of monthly pass and still need to finish my upgraded battlepass but I just don't care anymore

[lyric wasp]

It's not that im complaining, just something for dev team to ponder. I mean, in next week or another 2 weeks, it will be a month since the game launch. Looking back at sw , dislyte and e7, a month is a period where if not whale, at least spender alrdy has consistent clear on equipment / rune dungeon, especially on the highest floor.

If we still can't achieve that, mean etheria has higher bar to overcome, in order to get that better win rate on inferno.

My previous experience with those 3, maximum, it took me like a month and a week , and that's on Dislyte. The rest, just around a month.

[nova island]

i hope the dev team listens too... inferno is still too hard (especially hoyon/sharon/reng) and casuals/whales without lily r just getting frustrated (also as more casuals reach inferno, more of them will quit)

[warped stump]

almost everyone i know who spends has consistent clears on pretty much everything except rengo but rengo is like unfathomably difficult

[graceful juniper]

I mean all dot team are incosistent,even with ssania,obol and fangus its still incosistent for me to clear niconana if the dot dont land

Edit:oh mb its talking about hoyan terroe

[tall saddle]

the 10% will get you regardless of gear

fun stuff

[lyric wasp]

Yeah, i alrdy cleared all inferno. And i understand the stress without having notable or impactful unit, like lily and ssania. On certain content, having kloss definitely, big game changer - like inferno rengo

[nova island]

there is ppl who spent over $1k without a lily

[warped stump]

now that is just standard gacha nonsense

[nova island]

???

[warped stump]

whale hard never pull the correct unit and get hella tilted about it

[nova island]

1 unit shouldnt be required for certain levels

[warped stump]

is she required for any of the module dungeons

[drowsy gust]

I'm close to clearing inferno probably could do it right now if I manualled it but seeing all those yellow shells and 2 matrix modules makes me discouraged

[nova island]

he said all paying ppl could clear inferno, i sad not all paying people have lily, then you are arguing that (white knighting much??)

[tall saddle]

this could have been really easily solved by just having rotating banner for few months with all the release characters

but nah, makes too much sense

instead you just get freya and messiah

[warped stump]

i mean idk y'all just complain to complain then i ask questions about it/state truths about gacha and its white knighting

i do think that would have been a good idea

a banner for release chars

[lyric wasp]

Right, they can just slap kloss banner or xiada or anything with yeli banner as filler banner. But they pick not to. Idk why 🤔

[warped stump]

even the ld ones

[tall saddle]

i think they even had kloss banner before freya beta

[nova island]

your reply made sense to my statement, but not when you see what i was repling to

[warped stump]

that people can spend and not pull an ld?

[nova island]

no

[warped stump]

i'm (unfortunately) also 1k in and ive not pulled a heinrich even though i pulled a bit too much on the ld banner

idk

[nova island]

that everyone who spends can clear inferno (Which is not true)

[young tree]

first try lmao

comfy

[warped stump]

ive seen teams that can do terror inferno, doki inferno, shadowflame hoyan inferno, and niconana inferno without lily

[young zealot]

I don’t have a lily and I’m not a big spender (just monthly and BP) but I suppose if you spent 1k in the game you should have a pretty stacked roster already no? I think with high investment units inferno is definitely easier even without a lily

[warped stump]

i do not know about aurora and most people dont even farm sharon in the first place

and i do not even know if there is a consistent team for rengo even with lily

same applies to shadow sania

[split halo]

Is healing better not speed

[indigo oyster]

speed better

[lyric wasp]

I definitely need to farm Sharon for that sick swift + cure + evolguard supernovam but hey, losing 15% extra heal won't really affect much. It's definitely great to have, but typical supernova with 2 matrix alrdy sufficient for inferno aurora + ling.

[young zealot]

Speed allows u to use it on multiple chars. Healing is too restrictive

[warped stump]

i think especially after nerfing terror (that shit was too tanky for how hard it hit) and niconana, inferno is fairly decently accessible if you invest smartly since most teams i see that people prop up are mostly SR cores

[nova island]

wow white knighting is here... someone said "all spenders can clear all inferno"... i said that is not true (infact not all spenders have lily).... then people are saying you can clear "some" infernos without lily (which proves my point) and that "most" whales have lily (which agian proves my point)... guys dont argue and white knight for the game without thinking about your replies

[warped stump]

i think you are just ignoring what i am saying and getting upset im not immediately agreeing with everything you say

especially since the two contents which i am questionable about (aurora and rengo) are content where people are struggling even with the unit in question

[lyric wasp]

Gwt supernova for ling , her heal will be skyrocket. Pair with swift cure. Easy 70 % heal

[young zealot]

Terro doesn’t really have a SR core though, or was there some new clears I didn’t see ?

[lyric wasp]

For anything that need quick rotation, use giga on ling

[nova island]

can all spenders clear all inferno? (thats the only question i have been talking about, everytime i say not all can, you argue)

[split halo]

Idk if that heal will do much if team gets one shot

[warped stump]

if you are smart with your resources then you should be able to clear all of them (except rengo until someone discovers a team thats reliable for that content)

especially if you spend

you will not be able to pocket check the bosses because you spend

if that's what you're asking

[lyric wasp]

If team get one shot, then it's because the team just too fragile. Probably u still need to work with the module. Ling supernova kinda another strat in inferno aurora so u can use val.

That thick heal will instant clear the boss debuff meter.

[nova island]

so you are saying not all spenders can clear all inferno (like i am)... you just cant agree cause your whiteknighting

[warped stump]

no i think if you spend and can't clear inferno you are bad

and you need to reconsider what you are doing

👍

[nova island]

you just said you cant clear reng haha

[warped stump]

almost NO ONE can clear rengo

i said that at the beginning

and i have reiterated

[nova island]

thats what i am saying also

[warped stump]

that i believe THAT CONTENT is extra difficult

[split halo]

I can already do hell 4 but I’m trying to get momentum fury for my diting

[warped stump]

and probably needs to be tweaked unless someone cooks a team for it

but otherwise if you cannot clear ANY OF THE OTHER INFERNOS

[nova island]

not all spenders can clear all inferno @warped stump agrees...

[warped stump]

you are either not investing in the team or you are bad

[quick sapphire]

Either you get SSania and Lily or get mega lucky with speed rolls (For Tera), this is just false.

[split halo]

I just lack a good debuffer for it tbh

[warped stump]

sec i found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfmZj_Guvt8

[inland chasm]

Arent there consistent ren teams?

[warped stump]

here u go pre-nerf

[quick sapphire]

Don't have Mia either 😄

[tribal osprey]

Eh it doesn’t help that it’s very reliant on who you pull. Like most are stuck on hoyan cause no ssania or celince while the one dude with celince can’t do Nico but clears hoyan

[quick sapphire]

It's unit locked

[nova island]

if u spend, u should be able to clear SOME inferno levels, not ALL (depending on what u get, u can get stuck on sharon/reng)

[warped stump]

red chiaki i believe has been noted to be a substitue

mia is safer but red chiaki also works

[warped stump]

correct

and that is the case

unless you are playing the game poorly

[nova island]

thats what i have been saying the whole time

[warped stump]

u definitely said all

do not bullshit me now

[cedar aspen]

doemondo has been warned

Reason: Spam

[nova island]

i didnt not know english was not your first languange... i said can not clear all infernos... (i think you think this means cannot clear any infernos)

[quick sapphire]

So much investment to clear something that they buffed to make profit. I'l just keep farming doki/hoyan/nico until they change this shit

[warped stump]

no english is my first but its clearly not yours

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[waxen anchor]

Yo, do the devs have brains? Real question

[warped stump]

we can just agree to disagree here and i will simply not respond to anything else

[nova island]

??? we both agree anyways...

[warped stump]

i think by farming those you'll eventually find that terror is easier

as your supports do want sets from doki and shells from nico/hoyan lol

[quick sapphire]

I'm aware

[nova island]

there is alot of ways to beat terror atm, i think the nerf there was good

[warped stump]

thats how i approached it anyways, i streamlined down doki cause the other shit was too hard and then the day before the nerf i was like wait a second i can do terror just fine with diting lmao

[lyric wasp]

Shessh. Tried to send the video buut always stuck in mid way. @split halo artisan should be ok till hell 4. Hence i even use freya for hell 4. All alive, no casualty.

But on inferno, that's different league. If u not capable to neutralize the yellow shield debuff asap, that will be huge hindrance for team sustainability.

[quick sapphire]

Doesn't change the fact it's way too overtuned and is currently basically a PVE game you have to nolife to progress in

It is not a PVP game for anyone but whales and those who got lucky

[nova island]

i have won a bunch of pvp matches with people way more geared than me... i think drafting is most important, then gear

but inferno is way too overtuned

[split halo]

I just been trying to farm shells and it’s painful for me

[nova island]

me too

i havent got an inferno shell worth using yet, bad rng

[split halo]

I prop just have to build viper and max skill him and I should be able to do inferno auora tbh

[lyric wasp]

Basically for supernova, u just need hell sharon. And just cure . That's all. The swift u can use 4 sets x3. = 12

Then 2 slots left for cure ,add with the supernova.

Or 3 swift on nova. Then 3 slots of cure to make it 8

[lyric wasp]

Yeah, this, at last , look how that single s3 instantly clear the yellow shield debuff. That's inferno stage btw @split halo

[nova island]

hell sharon is crazy hard without lily 😦

thats part of the problem

[lyric wasp]

I see, idk i never try without lily, but brb i test it for u guys strat without lily

[uncut mica]

Hell sharon can still be debuffed so you just pop her with Diting + buffer + def breaker + turn reset

[remote patrol]

I mean even you have good shell you still need inferno threshold to pair it with, let alone that the best dmg module is lock behind threshold that require the most dmg

[lyric wasp]

But idk if it's can be copy, because im alrdy on stacked build lmao. Like almost all with 300 spd + inferno shell. But sure lemme check for u @nova island

[uncut mica]

repalce Diting for single target nuke of choice

[nova island]

if u can find a strat without lily for inferno sharon, let us know

[lyric wasp]

Inferno sharon, man. That even with lily can also fail ngl

[nova island]

ya 😦

[warped stump]

the strat for inferno sharon is to not farm it until they give us useful shells >:(

[lyric wasp]

If diting cant deliver 40k around that per pop, yeah good luck clearing that

[warped stump]

idk why they crippled the shells that drop from sharon

[lyric wasp]

This, especially on diting

[uncut mica]

inferno sharon is basically just RNG on if the adds dispel your immunity on their first attacks

[nova island]

to be fair i did see someone beat it consistanly with a 5/5 full lattice doki instead of lily... but thats crazy investment

[warped stump]

but it feels like there is no motivation to even do that content lol

[lyric wasp]

Like diting if just can do 30k 25k, naahhh, just skip inferno sharon. U guys not gonna able to clear that, even with manual and crap load of retries

[warped stump]

my guildie does aurora inferno with a just 3/2 swiftrush cure supernova from hell and did not do any sharon inferno lmao

[nova island]

yeah, i really hope they balance reng/sharon to be clearable with more teams

[split halo]

My linguo s1 heal for 5k

[warped stump]

its difficult but worthless its like funny side content

[lyric wasp]

With nova can escalate till 9-11k depends on the target

5k not enough hun for inferno

[nova island]

i can clear aurora inferno with multiple dif teams, u def dont need a inferno sharon shell, you are correct

[lyric wasp]

Single splash from the boss with no viper debuff alrdy rekt that same amount

[split halo]

I have one built but gotta fish for the stats

[lyric wasp]

Yeah emi, the best i can say is u can try. That's all. if artisan seems not ok, or dont provide appropriate win rate, then u can try nova

If artisan alrdy ok, then stick with artisan

[open fable]

hmm i though for aurora inferno you need ling s1 to be max with supernova?

or am i tripping

[lyric wasp]

Yeah, that's pretty much easier route for current strat @open fable

[open fable]

cause i tried with mia ling and i couldt sustain it

then again i was using swift and time weave

[lyric wasp]

The same, i even slap giga on ling, codex on mia, man.. failed lmao.

[nova island]

i beat aurora infenro before i had a supernove maxed or ling s1 maxed

def easier wtih tho

[lyric wasp]

I used nova + val with artisan + timeweave, better winrate suddenly lmao

[nova island]

yeah val is great, so is viper (both are not needed, but can help)

[pastel inlet]

any skill ups on celine or ling, and what's celines gear?

[open fable]

i though val timeweave doesnt proc when she on her hazy dream?

i am only stonewalled at 2 places fking rengo and aurora inferno kewk

rest i already set up an auto team

[lyric wasp]

If ling heal alrdy stack, then yeah using val is great. Well yeah no proc afaik when on hazy. It's when ahe out from that state, hopefully she can get to that s3 asap lmao. Well it's just me. Not BiS build btw. Just my preference @open fable

[open fable]

well i have already commited 1 lattice on ling might as well max her s1 later

if i still want to pay for the game anyway

got tilted and rage quit at sharon hard ember kewk

[lyric wasp]

Everyone with underbuilt / non p5 diting plus klossless and lily, definitely will stuck at inferno rengo. Im also the one of them lmao. Klossless

I cant do shyt lol

[warped stump]

i just peeped those teams holy shit the investment is real

[open fable]

i tried auto rengo was close tho 15% hp

just need to farm a momentem set for diting

harvest keeneye aint working kewk

[lyric wasp]

Right, the people that cleared inferno rengo, if we checked, like majority p5 diting / max dupe. One or two pr really few around 3-4 copy

[warped stump]

dw theres also a p5 yeli in there LOL

my bad theres FIVE of them

[open fable]

pretty sure the yeli got rng god on that run

[lyric wasp]

This is the time, i say, that extra 10% of max dupe diting, really damn helpful lol.

[open fable]

yeah i think they math out that max dupe is 20%? stronger then base

[lyric wasp]

I wonder but if total damage diting can cleave is around 100k, then that's alrdy extra 10k coming just from p5? Idk it's just me with my elementary school math lmao

[open fable]

f2p friendly pvp game guys

[lyric wasp]

Lmao

[open fable]

[lyric wasp]

Dupe didn't impact much they said too

Man, how i wish that's true , at least for rengo case

[open fable]

i need to spam rta for my point later but im so lazy

[lyric wasp]

The same, im still at 30 lmao

[open fable]

pve grind killing my motivation bruh

[lyric wasp]

Platinum 1 enjoyer

[split halo]

Don’t feel like I’m ever get a momentum fury white fang

[scarlet quartz]

Same bestie

Shit is cooked

And I just know the first one I get will be swift raid instead of furyedge

[brave heath]

swiftraid is fine tho

arguably for raw dps it might be higher excluding trying to kill stuff in 1-2 turns, then its probably slightly worse

[split halo]

I have keeneye but I want momentum for diting

[scarlet quartz]

It's infinitely worse on diting

Since he double dips in both stats for dmg

[split halo]

Would this be good on Liam

If build her speed

[brave heath]

i mean that isnt exactly how that works out, cuz optimally you'd have the crit rate always be effective on the unit ur using

[waxen anchor]

could be good on hellkid

[brave heath]

but sure if you were already 100% crit rate, and then put on a furyedge and lost no crit rate otherwise, that 12% is better on diting

[split halo]

True

[brave heath]

but that isnt how you set characters up lol

[split halo]

I heard people say he isn’t good

[brave heath]

helkid can be nice in pvp

i've had a couple times where some1 put in a unbannable slot helkid and it was rough

[nova island]

ya especially if thats where all their speed gear is

[brave heath]

ye it was rofl

i just prebanned him next time i queued into them tho

being able to see who ur q'ing into b4 you preban is kinda goofy

[nova island]

yup

it is

[brave heath]

but at the same time i think the unbannable slot thing is equally dumb

so it's like 🤷‍♂️

[split halo]

They need to increase the drop rates this is ass

[nova island]

i like the ban protect... cause if u are worried u can pick it b4 they can protect it

[brave heath]

ye but then they pick something i don't have

so i cannot do such a thing

lol

[nova island]

more variety of team, can u can protect a dps or opener then your picks r way different

[split halo]

Swift or onslaught on hellkid

[brave heath]

it was p funny tho the guy the 2nd time i didnt notice it was him in preban wasnt looking

saw it was him

picked my 4* level 1 helkid

and won

he had to be fuming rofl

[split halo]

Is this good on her?

Also is flat hp better then gold hp%?

[nova island]

looks pretty good to me

i think % is always better than flat pretty much in this game

[split halo]

Even better the red ?

[nova island]

no idea, would have to math it for your char 🙂

[split halo]

Can

Can you pls

Hp low I know

[nova island]

its not that easy, need to know how much hp% increase you have on all your gear and prowess

[split halo]

On every module or

[nova island]

yeah and every substat also, BUT im pretty sure the % will be better by alot

i mean right now u have 40k hp so even 10% is 4k (i know it doesnt work exactly like that, but rough)

[split halo]

Wouldn’t it be easier if I swap it to a unit with no prowess and equips

[frigid dune]

Facts. In if you you have dispel shell and it triggers and removes silence you still can't use skills that turn. : ]

[split halo]

That sounds amazing

Silence for life

Just like devs we beg them for communication

[azure hare]

anyone got the last few codes?

there was one yesterday or so

[brave heath]

p sure the shells are based off ur base hp, not ur overall hp

so 10% hp would be +940, and 30% (max roll red) would be 2820

otherwise people would have like some super crazy numbers

[valid zephyr]

???

No

Thats not how it works

You just see the white number

Multiply that by the percentage of shell passive

And bam you have your answer

[ruby canyon]

any % in this game outside of battle is based off base, any % inside of battle is based off total

[valid zephyr]

Its not even close

Youre completely wrong and spreading misinformation

Because then when would the % end?

[ruby canyon]

so 40% atk is gonna be based off the white number aka 400ish, 40% atk in battle (atk up) is gonna be more like +1500

[left snow]

i disagree

i think pre ban and post ban are very good

and adds layers of teambuilding imo

[valid zephyr]

Your new 44k is the new total so your gonna multiple the % by 44k again?

[left snow]

but you gotta get through the terribly tuned pve first lol

[brave heath]

you think what you want i think its dumb 👍

[valid zephyr]

No

I mean people just wanna bam one team do all arena and not think @left snow

Which is good if you dont care about arena

But if you do care about arena then yea the bans and guaranteed is a nice element

[brave heath]

the unbannable slot actually helps those people out more than there being no unbannable slot

[left snow]

it would be near impossible to play certain teams without ban protect

some teams are very reliant on certain characters

[brave heath]

because you can guarantee ur unit is not banned

well that is leading to what he said being false

[valid zephyr]

But its the third slot

[formal snow]

Invest in Kloss s3?

[valid zephyr]

So you have to sacrifice two slot chances of your unit being picked and there is also a pre ban so meta units are being banned there too

[brave heath]

i think prebans are fine, i think the issue is that you can see who you are going against first for like 3 seocnds

THEN you can preban

[valid zephyr]

If opponents pick your unit you cant pick it anymore either

[brave heath]

but i think the unbannable slot is bad

[valid zephyr]

If the guaranteed slot was 1st yea then its dumb

[brave heath]

due to the fact that people can drool and guarantee a very broken counterpick

[valid zephyr]

But it being third slot means you have to risk it being picked by the opponent if you want to guarantee the unit

And you would want to use the guaranteed pick for your core unit

[ruby canyon]

i do think preban should be locked in before you even queue

[valid zephyr]

Which means that is likely a shared unit

[left snow]

this i agree

i hate when people pre ban my tsukiyomi

after seeing my name

[brave heath]

it doesnt have to be a shared unit at all

[left snow]

💀

[ruby canyon]

it would speed up matches by so much too not having the preban phase

[left snow]

as of now i think pre bans are the main issue

ban protect allows certain teams that rely on a singular character to thrive

which is nice imo

[brave heath]

imo should just get better at drafting and not being able to guarantee a character

but i agree preban thing is more of an issue you shouldnt like have people meta gaming

and tracking who has what/uses what and just prebanning it insta

[left snow]

i think this goes both ways

identifying what your team is bad against and changing your pre ban

for example if you are losing to cleave pre ban tsukiyomi

and life is a lot easier

i dont necessarily think it makes drafting too ez

the fact that there is ban protect i mean

[brave heath]

definitely think it does

[left snow]

can you tell me an example of a very strong counterpick that is too braindead ?

or is there another reason why you think its unhealthy

[brave heath]

helkid, cachi, lingluo atm are very strong to be unbannable atm if they lock in a bruiser comp like tiamat/holden etc

but also tsuki is a good example

[left snow]

i win my matches vs bruiser comps when im playing cleave and people dont ban protect viper

but yeah that team is aids to play against

if they protect viper

[brave heath]

well ye viper too but i think unbannable lingluo whenever they play something bruiser is always insanely annoying

cuz even if you had say a fast heinrich into like mio or something

shes gonna be res stacked so often

[left snow]

i guess it also depends on what you are playing yourself

[brave heath]

that its like gg

[left snow]

when i play cleave i beat them

when i play cc i dont

i also stopped playing cc

since bruiser is the most common thing i run into

and its a very hard matchup without a lucky dispel

[brave heath]

idk i think its like a mix, i just swap between cleaving/cc and just see what i like atm not like tryharding to climb atm

just think the unbannable slot is really cringe sometimes

[left snow]

thats fair

i think im kind of abusing atm and probably am biased lol

i just ban protect my tsukiyomi

which makes draft braindead

[brave heath]

ye tsuki is a good one for it cuz like

what are they gonna do ban massiah and still get another cleave dd through

get rosa'd lol

[left snow]

funny thing is

when i run into people who already played me and pre ban my tsukiyomi

my winrate plummets

but when i dont i almost always win

🤣

[brave heath]

well ye the preban meta gaming thing is cringe

i q'd into some guy tho it was kinda funny

he kept swapping his preban

he lost to me, then prebanned mio

then lost, prebanned kazuyo

then lost to a massiah cleave and prebanned tsuki

thenlost to being cc'd again

and he just sat there making 29 second turns everytime

cuz he had to be so mad lol

[left snow]

i think you are right about the ban protect thing

i have a biased opinion due to what i play

but also some teams just dont function without a certain unit

[brave heath]

well if you primarily do 1 form of playstyle, it's going to benefit you the most

me personally i think people should have to learn how to pivot drafts

[left snow]

i agree

i just dont have the resources to raise more teams atm

or "flex" picks

[brave heath]

well ye i have like 10-11 thing si have like geared up for rta, some much better than the others but they're not bad

every now and then they'll like preban my mio and take 3 of my main units and i'm like

[left snow]

yeah thats rough

[brave heath]

using my 5* holden (which to be fair has good gear but 5*)

[left snow]

when people ban my tsukiyomi and pick my dps

its really bad

ive been investing into another team and its kind of ready

[brave heath]

it is pretty funny tho like nobody would pick or ban kazuyo like in gold/plat then i swear shes like 90% pick/ban in diamond+

probably not as much at super high tho

[left snow]

from my experience a lot of people play tank down

with rahu/tiamat/lilith/borgne dps

there are a few rev abusers

including rank 3 and 4 guy

and i am the only cleave i saw lol

[brave heath]

ye i think if nothing changes rev will get abused a lot more once hoyan is like

farmable by normal ppl

cuz you could have a 12p swiftrush 6p momentum 6p swiftraid set

[left snow]

rev abuse is definitely gonna get nerfed next season

[brave heath]

get like 90-100% crit, max speed possible, and some atk%

[left snow]

that thing is so cancer

[brave heath]

like a freya could be 360 speed or w/e the cap is, while on revelations and 100% crit high atk

its kinda dumb rofl

[left snow]

yeah

i have a 324 speed tsukiyomi and rank 3 guy has a faster freya than my tsukiyomi

and 1shots my team

🤣

[brave heath]

ye as soon as i can reliably do hoyan i'm probably just only doing that for a WHILE

getting swiftrush/momentum/swiftraid revelations 🐐

[left snow]

i think more and more people will start playing rev abuse as people get more 3 matrix revs with swiftraid

but atm it feels like

80% tank down

which im assuming is because less strict gear requirements

[brave heath]

idk i dont think i see that many idk what rank you are tho might be higher

[left snow]

you dont need 300-330 speed

[brave heath]

i see a good mix of everything in like d2

[left snow]

i am 17th atm

[brave heath]

ye prob diff there

see good amount of like, cc cleave, massiah tsukis etc, bruisers, and just like

sometimes some drooler i have no idea how they're past gold

just picking random shit rofl

[left snow]

i was fluctuating from 3k to 3.1k got to 3.1k yesterday

and stopped playing rta

afraid of losing and dropping lmao

[ruby canyon]

oooh wait thats you lol

[brave heath]

ye i wanna play more rta but i also dont want to play until i get like 2-3 more units i want setup

once i have holden invested into a little bit more and probably lingluo i'll prob grind more rta

[ruby canyon]

I think i played you a bunch before i stopped rta

[left snow]

before 2x yeah

i saw 2 evi's

[ruby canyon]

yea i focus on pve for now 😦

too little time

[left snow]

are you the one with hoyan pp or the other one ?

well maybe you changed your picture

[ruby canyon]

i think rn i have sharon pfp

[brave heath]

ye thats issue with rta its like, you wanna invest units for rta

but then you also need to get stuff done for pve to be able to farm for rta

[left snow]

yeah i can barely do ember trek and ethernet

since i have invested so much into pvp

if evi didnt give me suggestions for pve i would never clear ember and ethernet

lol

[ruby canyon]

well maybe if aurora dropped some swiftsmite or bulwark zzz

im tired of getting cc'ed or outsped

[left snow]

yeah

im kinda curious how 2 bruiser matchups go though

with how often i run into people who play them

[brave heath]

prob boring rofl

[left snow]

there is only 1 viper

only 1 lingluo

probably a snoozefest

[ruby canyon]

it doesnt matter too much, tiamat does true dmg, borgne ignores passive and doesnt crit etc.

you still kill them in a few hits

[left snow]

i didnt even know borgne ignored passives

[ruby canyon]

ult i believe

[left snow]

yeah the last part

didnt know that

[solid orchid]

is it possible to do inferno hoyan without celince or ssania ?

[languid basalt]

probably but much harder

actually it is possible

[ruby canyon]

I've posted quite a bit about hoyan but this clears very easily on manual

and for auto you can use healer sania instead of kazuyo it's just slower, although others have had various levels of success with that comp

[solid orchid]

thanks !

can you tell me about shells and skill prio ?

does lingluo need s1 max, low on lattices

[ruby canyon]

I don't think lingluo had s1 max for me at the time, but obol did

you dot her with obol, s3 whenever you can, put lily on him, kazuyo sleeps the adds

can also just not s3 with obol and keep them slept and just spam s1 with obol and lily

[solid orchid]

so kazami needs to go after obol right ?

lily > obol > kazami > lingluo ?

[ruby canyon]

it rly doesnt matter my guys had abysmal speed at the time, like 220

[solid orchid]

oh I'm dum

[mental mural]

6 stars but level 1
Peak

[solid orchid]

I thought obol s1 was AoE

yeah doesnt matter then

was afraid of him waking up slept mobs

thank you

[ruby canyon]

gl:)

[split halo]

How does the healing from auora work

Does the boss block your healing

[inland warren]

Did they shadowbuff terror? I could farm it two days ago and now I cant anymore???

Am I going crazy?

[lethal matrix]

yes you are going crazy

and check your build

[inland warren]

I literally saved the build to clear it

And re-equipped it now lmao

[solid orchid]

btw you mind sharing inferno aurora auto team ?

sorry was back reading

[drowsy gust]

Think it's finally time to throw in the towel I just had another wave of game quits now that guild war is over in my guild partially why I stayed on besides hoping things change is responsibility for my guild so most of my guildies leaving the game has relieved me of that

[solid orchid]

would really love some auto aurora team

[ruby canyon]

sure it's just rosa lily viper lingluo valerian

[drowsy gust]

Probably won't be coming around anymore so to all the people still putting up the good fight sorry I can't keep it up. To all the people who hate me this is my last gift to you lol.

p.s anyone who needs an epic seven guild we got a space or two hit me up lol

[solid orchid]

can i replace rosa with xiada ?

dont have rosa

😅

[ruby canyon]

yes xiada should be equal or better

[solid orchid]

supernova on lingluo or ?

[ruby canyon]

ideally yes

fortissimo can work, i assume halloween works well too

[solid orchid]

im actually using that exact same team (with xiada) for hell 4 but doesnt work for inferno

guess its just gear issue then

[ruby canyon]

it required me to have viper and lingluo around 260 spd for consistent auto

[uncut mica]

probably a speed issue on your gear then where you're not quite getting enough turns and getting lapped at somepoint you weren't in Hell

[solid orchid]

oh that makes sense

my viper and lingluo are around 210-220

yeah i will work on that

thanks guys

i will change my gear around and give it a shot

[inland warren]

It's official. I cant clear terror inferno anymore

Guess they really wanted me to watch that guide for hell4. Probably that's why i cant clear it anymore

[ruby canyon]

what changed

[inland warren]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-gif-21849807

[inland warren]

I dont know. Two days ago I could clear terror inferno. Saved the build so that i could re equip it to farm more later. Go today and cant clear it anymore

[open fable]

@inland warren can be a bug

sometimes your auto farm locks in the past team that you used

i had once where instead of rimo they gave me diting for doki cause i used diting to auto sharon before switching to doki

that or hard rng

[inland warren]

This is the team i used and i have down the same characters with the same equipment

[open fable]

shells passive same?

[inland warren]

Actually better

🤣

[open fable]

dmg or speed?

[inland warren]

Dmg

On the dps i mean

Turn order is the same

[open fable]

momentum set?

well i mean maybe veronica misses strip or dinah misses erosion

you just have to auto it and check

[inland warren]

I did check. Yes sometime dinah doesnt erosion but she also does and still cant clear

Dunno. Whatever, i'll keep farming nico

[open fable]

unless they shadow buff the hp back

kewk

[inland warren]

I'm in no rush of farming terror. Can just farm nico for eternity (which is what is going to take to find a decent white fang) and by the time i'm done with that, they will either have nerfed terror more or eos

[quick sapphire]

46 second inferno Tera, the amount of investment I needed for this just because I don't have SSania is ridiculous

[left snow]

they should remove immunity from terror so you dont need a stripper and lower the hp a bit more

[quick sapphire]

I had to raise heinrich and 6 star him, no lattice

[thick arch]

she base but I deleted my account already

[left snow]

another 20% hp nerf and immunity removal

i think would put terror in a solid place

[thick arch]

tank spot would put everything in a beatable spot

I'm so tired of my DPS dying to rng

[mental mural]

ccouldve given it to me. L

[thick arch]

I saved you from 4+ minute runs

[left snow]

is this mia turtle comp on terror ?

[thick arch]

I don't speak of the forbidden comps

[left snow]

somebody told me the 4+ minute team was auto

if thats the case doesnt sound too bad ?

or was i baited

[thick arch]

I used 30 pots total during 2x

[left snow]

oh it was THAT slow

[thick arch]

not to bad

[left snow]

i think i did like

80 or sth

[civic relic]

I manualled during 2x and then learned I had an auto after the fact

🙈

[thick arch]

that was login 10hr each day too

[tight laurel]

The ultimate PVP experience

15 pots taking 10 hr in a PVP game is absolutely brain dead design

[left snow]

somebody said that team was auto

that guy is a menace

got people to playing 10 hours a day when people expected to just auto and call it a day

[inland warren]

This is not a PVP game. It's a PVE game

[thick arch]

yeah don't give me the oh you can clear the PvE tutorial without lily/ssania/555ssr bs. I have a job and need sleep. I can't login 20x a day just to start another auto for 1 game. Could do dailys in literally 50 other games before finishing daily stamina bs.

[inland warren]

Pretty obvious since no one talks about pvp meta but on how to clear inferno

[tight laurel]

Lmao yep

[left snow]

yeah lmao

its kinda funny

[tight laurel]

Don't worry, just keep grinding, and think in as little as 6-12 business months you can get to the PVP

[thick arch]

you meant years

an epic 7 years

[inland warren]

I am. I've been farming niconana since the nerf, full refreshing and i've yet to find an usable shell

[tight laurel]

And remember, this thread is "being monitored", which means so much

[thick arch]

I should've done that tbh

I did gp outpost first then modules

[inland warren]

Cant be bother with doing anything else until they nerf other bosses

[thick arch]

then went to delete my account

I'm watching yeli or next banner for someone broken, so I don't have to reroll and just do the 80 pulls

[inland warren]

Next banner is lily, sorry

[thick arch]

but honestly there's a lot more changes needed. These devs aren't thinking ahead. they just react to majority and fuck over the higher level players in open beta 6

that's honesty what stam refershers are. Another beta

[tight laurel]

https://youtu.be/pEDNjksToBo?si=fmprm7nxvQjA7Gh6

[thick arch]

oh wow imagine PvP and pve specific gear in a PvP game

completely innovative. They will be decades ahead of the competition

(I'm sarcastic out my ass rn)

[frigid dune]

I am level 75, donated sizable amount of money, have inferno gear and can auto almost anything. Aurora Inferno and Rengokutsu inferno make me sad and losing believe in devs even more.

[jolly marlin]

I got the poster up good luck finding him!

[thick arch]

we already got him before the terror/nico nerf

someone bullied him

[frigid dune]

Also, Shell farming is... Bad bad bad. When you need pretty specific combination of three sets and there is no way to change at least one of them and dropping 3 set shell is rare as hell

[fallen leaf]

I hate aurora.. I hope whoever made aurora stubs their toe at a random time everyday

[fallen leaf]

I love it when I clear inferno shells and I get 10 yellows!

[thick arch]

yes imagine rateup set or not having yellows

[fallen leaf]

Just mot having yellows in inferno period

Who even made that decision

[thick arch]

someone who said beta to easy

[fallen leaf]

“Hey let’s have this endgame mode have mid game gear”

[frigid dune]

I am slowly building healers shell for that level... But yeah

[fallen leaf]

My team still finds a way to die with 4 artisans

[thick arch]

#crit rng

[fallen leaf]

Also. No one liked 15% resist in PvE in Epic Seven or in any game

Why the fuck is it in this game

[thick arch]

to make you lose stamina

-1 -1 -1

[fallen leaf]

There are some easy changes they can make to this game that’s right in front of them

If they don’t make these changes I don’t see this game having a future

[thick arch]

this is why I said we are just open beta 6

and non refreshers are playing the real game

[warped kestrel]

Repeat with me until the development team reads it and understands what these words mean, folks:

Inferno Module/Shell(equipment) stages are meant to be 10x auto farmed in the background for years, it's not meant to be epic ordeals of RNG hell.

[thick arch]

yes we kinda gotta farm 30+ near perfect sets of gear to even play RTA with some strategy

wait never mind

it's still going to be 2 Reva procs to kill you

maximum

[carmine palm]

Well whoever is in charge that made the decision to completely change the game design from beta to launch is likely still in charge, so there's a base ego hurdle to overcome. On top of that, even this week they were bragging about how they have way more players on launch than during the beta, so they may be looking at different metrics than what those of us at endgame can see to determine whether their changes were a net positive/negative.

[thick arch]

I wonder if they accounted for the fact most people want to have fun and don't want to play a buggy mess that changes often and all your progress gets deleted

[undone vortex]

devs told us 3 times they wanna improve communications, 4th times the charm amirite

[scarlet quartz]

hey wuzzy

no rumors

[carmine palm]

Well they were afraid people would get bored if they had enough gear to pvp, so I'm not sure fun is at all part of their game design philosophy.

[undone vortex]

you're not my real dad and u never will be

[undone vortex]

if ur bored of pvp u can play hit game modes like thundermark/stun roulette or auto battle simulator event #6

[thick arch]

nah they were afraid whales would get bored and not give them mo monay

[left snow]

where is this from ?

[scarlet quartz]

well your real dad went and got milk so how is that working out for ya

[undone vortex]

iirc after cbt3 they thought progression was too fast so they upped the difficulty

but idk about bored if they got enough gear

[undone vortex]

u can be my daddy then

[scarlet quartz]

[undone vortex]

[carmine palm]

"There werent many characters and rta still needs to continue developing with more character releases and strategies so risking having people get bored before more stuff exists is risky"

[thick arch]

they knew RTA dupes was a lie and needed the people to not think aout RTA before getting geared up. So they could advertise a f2p friendly PvP game as long as possible