inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[scarlet quartz]

i always skipped that bich

[graceful cradle]

xD

[indigo oyster]

why no active code on e7

[graceful cradle]

EPIC7TH

[indigo oyster]

ty

[coarse dirge]

even with red chiaki's 35% dmg reduction buff, terror's first attack still chunks 80% of your hp

this is the only game i've played where you could have 4 SSRs (3 of them are apex) in a team

and still feel like absolute dogshit

[scarlet quartz]

have u tried pulling ssania

[coarse dirge]

not only that the boss also applies wound

so like

what the fuck

it's like they want us to have everything

dmg reduction, cleanse, sustain, dispel

[tiny sage]

YEP Imagine ruining Perfect Balance from Beta

Because you Balance your game around Max Dupe Max Lattice.

[coarse dirge]

[glass vale]

I still don't understand why they did that. There was only a few people saying it was too easy.

[tiny sage]

We Need to see the Devs clearing this Content with No dupes at 12 Lattice Investment.

[scarlet quartz]

idk I have given up on them saving the game in a reasonable amount of time

[tacit ingot]

"just be patient, take it slow, enjoy the grind"

[scarlet quartz]

they are just cooked

[tacit ingot]

and when 2 months later people finally start to auto inferno, WHAM - inferno 2 and its back to manual b1tch mode 😄

[tiny sage]

2 Moinths later when they get max level inferno gear and more lattices...

[glass vale]

I can auto inferno terror and doki now but it's like 6/10 inconsistent. Hate doing it because of the stupid stamina loss system they've got.

[indigo oyster]

inferno 2 is 2x everything of inferno xDD

[tiny sage]

Inferno 2 is the same drops as Inferno 1 with a higher chance of the Inferno unique Gear.

By higher chance i mean 1.1x

[indigo oyster]

and it still drop w 2 matrix and 2 substat

[left snow]

No

She is 4/5/1 minumum

[graceful cradle]

Enjoy your Rev CD desyncing then

[left snow]

She can abuse rev with her s1 just fine already

[graceful cradle]

1/5/5 she always has Rev up with S3 which will be more damage than increasing her S1

[left snow]

4/5/5 is ideal tho

[left snow]

Her main damage source is s1 not S3 in pve

[graceful cradle]

guess what? she procs her S1 off S3 too except it'll always be S3 which is 3 hits of rev into every S1 followup with is MORE damage than an extra 20% on S1

[left snow]

You are making it sound like you will use her S3 like 20 times

She only uses it 1-2 times in most farms

[graceful cradle]

What deals more damage 8 possible instances of 12% or max 5

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[left snow]

There is a reason why people are farming with 4/5/1 not 1/5/5

[graceful cradle]

they went 4/5/1 just because they saw her S1 can attack a lot not because they gave any thoughts to numbers

[left snow]

We can agree to disagree

[graceful cradle]

sure go ask prydwen they have the calc

[left snow]

Okay now we will never agree

Prywden is garbage website for any gacha, and their calc is literally made up for this game

You lost me with that last one

[graceful cradle]

they're making a damage calc

[left snow]

It is literally made up

[graceful cradle]

you claiming that numbers are wrong?

you must be a flat earther

[left snow]

You can literally use their sheet and it doesn't work and it's not even close

[glass vale]

They've released their damage calc?

[left snow]

They have numbers on characters with setups

Ranking them

[graceful cradle]

they're working on it, apparently it'll function somewhat like E7s according to their post?

[left snow]

Their calc was the reason why xiada was considered mid in dokidoki and in most PvE content

When people started using her in a lot of content they bumped her up

[indigo oyster]

that was before rev wasnt the meta iirc?

[left snow]

She still has 490% multi AoE with 0 cd

[graceful cradle]

now i know you're full of shit lol they had her at number 1 sustained aoe and number 2 burst at 2 stacks since after the beta

anyone who thought Xiada was bad just can't read

[left snow]

She was literally T2 in Doki in their tier list

[graceful cradle]

but anyway i digress you can just ask them to calc S3 max vs S1 lvl 4

[muted kraken]

I personally maxed s1 and s2 first. working on s3 right now. The buff steal doesn't feel effective at all till lv5. 1/.15 = 6.66 arrows at lv1. 1/.3 = 3.33 arrows at lv5. With s2 max you get an average of 3.5 arrows on basic

[graceful cradle]

but their dps ranking had her number 1

and the numbers matter more than where they arbitrarily tier her

as long as you understand why they have her there and where ofc

[graceful cradle]

Yeah if you S3 max s2 max you'll always have perfectly synced Rev windows

so you maximize her overall damage in any fight you don't kill before what would be her 3rd turn

[muted kraken]

and permanent crit buff and uptime on def down

[graceful cradle]

mhm

[muted kraken]

she really needs full investment, I think that's her worst part lol

[weary lava]

not sure why ur taking pryden as gospel

[glass vale]

ain't got the lattices for that lol

[weary lava]

they were also in on the dot is dead agenda after the aurora changes

[left snow]

Because he is clueless

[graceful cradle]

i'm not but they can actually test the numbers which is better than any argument you can put forth

what you gonna argue with your fefes?

[weary lava]

they also are reactory towards units such as cachi/vice/viper

[left snow]

No they can't with a made up formula

[weary lava]

only moving them up once the community demonstrated how they can cheese certain content

[graceful cradle]

i'm not talking their tierlist i'm talking the actual damage numbers

[muted kraken]

true, but on the flip side if have her fully built you can just braindead toss her in every pve content as a dps

[weary lava]

even with their dps rankings, khloros is up there despite basically nvr being recommended

[graceful cradle]

yeah but that's such a strawman

[weary lava]

is it?

[graceful cradle]

no one is going to compare khloros to yeli

[weary lava]

the dps ranking doesnt really apply to real scenario's

[graceful cradle]

because it's very apparent his limitations vs hers

ah yes because no one ANYWHERE EVER is going to S3 twice with Yeli

christ you people are stupid

[indigo oyster]

she was 0.5 when game launch

[left snow]

My bad

[graceful cradle]

people like to just make shit up to fit their narrative

[left snow]

Was she T2 in generic PvE ?

[glass vale]

Maxing her S3 so the crit rate up has no downtime is the biggest damage increase you can give.

Then you can build her completely differently.

Before then if you miss a crit her damage falls off a cliff.

[indigo oyster]

t1

[graceful cradle]

nothing you say can change their minds because they just wanna nitpick on prydwen instead of utilizing its best feature which is it's ability to number crunch

[indigo oyster]

this is from may, so b4 game launch even

[left snow]

Just like the made-up calc to start narratives right

[graceful cradle]

Thank you! I'm glad someone else understands

[left snow]

Says the guy who can't clear niconana

We could have just agreed to disagree

[graceful cradle]

The moment Yeli takes a 3rd turn and whatever you are killing isn't dead, you've lost damage and it'll further snowball the longer it takes

[left snow]

Instead of starting insulting each other

[graceful cradle]

and you can't clear hoyan iirc so shut down and shut up kiddo

[left snow]

I can what are you on

[muted kraken]

I'm not saying prydwen is perfect but they do have testing lol

[weary lava]

the issue is the applicability of their testing, they decide arbitrary rules that wont necessarily transfer to a real inferno fight

look how they massacred vice

[graceful cradle]

i mean there is no won't transfer to a real inferno here it's literally did Yeli take a 3rd turn? If yes and you don't max S3 you are losing damage

[weary lava]

thts not what im arguing

im pointing out u using pryden to base your argument off

is flawed

[graceful cradle]

That's what i have been the entire time before you threw in your 2 cents

[weary lava]

either do the maths yourself, or u dont really know

[graceful cradle]

I'm not talking about the stupid tierlist

I've been talking about actual numbers

[weary lava]

u are using their calculations

as the basis

for your argument

"calculations"

[graceful cradle]

I mean when the dps calc is out and available are you going to stick your head in the ground and say the numbers aren't real cuz prydwen?

[muted kraken]

the issue is people not doing their own testing and research to supplement the information they get from prydwen and other content creator or sources. The reality is a lot of casual players can't be bothered to test things and would rather just follow a guide

[weary lava]

no im saying they're arbitrary

[left snow]

I've been working on reverse engineering the formula myself, I'm busy and can't really work on it effectively atm

[graceful cradle]

You don't even need actual numbers to understand that potentially 8 instances of 12% max hp damage > 5

[scarlet quartz]

what is the argument here

someone tl;dr

[weary lava]

they're arguing abt lattice investment choice

neither provided real maths

[graceful cradle]

1/5/5 better in most cases than 4/5/1

[scarlet quartz]

i would agree

[graceful cradle]

i did but they refuse prydwen

some flat earther mfers in here

i stg

[muted kraken]

the real answer is 5/5/5 but no one has lattices lol

[scarlet quartz]

4 5 5

that 5 on s1 is horsecock

[weary lava]

good sir, u didnt provide maths, you provided a dmg scenario sum1 else did without explaining its relevance

[muted kraken]

it really feels like the prowess is needed to enable her kit instead of just making it better

[weary lava]

u also keep harping on abt the difference between s3 dmg vs s1 dmg without even factoring in whether modules/shells change depending on choice

[left snow]

This is going nowhere

[jolly relic]

[weary lava]

its the reason im pointing out your argument is flawed

[left snow]

Let's stop

[graceful cradle]

i mean i did though with your Rev CD desyncing after your first S3 it's easily apparently even with basic napkin math to see which pulls ahead'

[scarlet quartz]

it's always revelation

[graceful cradle]

If you are finishing every single fight before her second S3 then yes 4/5/1 is better

[weary lava]

what if its not revelation? have u calcd it?

[scarlet quartz]

and revelation needs s3

[graceful cradle]

but you probably arent

It should always be Rev but we don't know how strong final damage is

[scarlet quartz]

maxed s3 also allows u to reliably change a c chacne piece

for cdmg

[graceful cradle]

^

[scarlet quartz]

without missing crits

[weary lava]

then u dont actually know the answer

[graceful cradle]

Which also leads to more damage

or more attack for better Rev scaling

[weary lava]

ur just using whatever information u can to confirm your own answer

lol

[left snow]

.

[left snow]

.

[graceful cradle]

which is greater 8 or 5

[scarlet quartz]

3

[weary lava]

this isnt a gotcha

again u are acting like every1 else is dumb for disagreeing

[graceful cradle]

answer the fucking question

[weary lava]

but havnt provided any concrete answer

ur just using other ppls words to answer

?

also calm down son

[graceful cradle]

is 8 triggers of 12% max hp damage lower than 5

stop moving goalposts

[young zealot]

This debate is similar to the infinite/finite resource debate we got in another thread

[weary lava]

its not abt moving goal posts

[young zealot]

Except the debate was with a bot

[weary lava]

your question is bad

[graceful cradle]

yes it is

[young zealot]

So who’s the bot here

[muted kraken]

kind of a tangent but rev suffers in pvp so using a more general shell would allow you to use her more flexibly

[gilded mason]

No rumour please

[left snow]

Wait really

🤣

[graceful cradle]

you're arguing that 40% damage on S1 is more value than essentially 3 more possible procs of 12% max hp damage

[glass vale]

About stamina? That one was wild 🤣

[young zealot]

Well it’s not confirmed but the guy is 100% a bot for me

[left snow]

Can you link it ?

[weary lava]

im not arguing tht at all

if u read

i've nvr made any conclusion

only pointed out how u reached yours was bad

[scarlet quartz]

Okay idk what's going on here

[graceful cradle]

that is though

[scarlet quartz]

but

[weary lava]

maybe u shuld calm down and read

lol

[graceful cradle]

unless you're a contrarian

[scarlet quartz]

its always yeli S1 last

[muted kraken]

lol

[scarlet quartz]

like 100%

[graceful cradle]

i am calm i'm just saying to stop dodging

answer the question quit with your circular arguing

[weary lava]

its not doging when i nvr put forth a conclusion

again

[graceful cradle]

some goalpost moving bullshit

[gilded mason]

I think yeli should use alicorn

[weary lava]

your question is stupid

context and situation matters

[graceful cradle]

lol more dodging

[weary lava]

and u are trying to prove a point via a trap

i mean if tht helps u sleep at night

[gilded mason]

Swiftrush timeweave yeli is the way

[weary lava]

u are free to believe what u want

lol

[graceful cradle]

then stop tagging me clown

[weary lava]

good sir

[young zealot]

#1388111024124854292 message

[graceful cradle]

if you are just going to sit here and move goalposts

[weary lava]

u are the 1 responding with tags 2 me more than i am 2 u

[muted kraken]

damn, its not that deep. math doesn't matter. s2 is mandatory. go s1 if you want buff steal first or go s2 if you're using revelation or want consistency

[weary lava]

not only ahve u not provided anything substantive to prove your conclusion

your sole argument is: ok but bigger number

if u think tht then prove it

do the maths

[scarlet quartz]

bigger number is a pretty good argument when its about damage

[weary lava]

yes but context matters

if its within a certain amnt of AV

then yes he can argue that

[young zealot]

The inferno difficulty is so unbalanced the community is starting to go crazy, the devs should do something asap !

[weary lava]

but we don't know if that changes depending on AV or fight

or module/shell

yet he speaks as if its a forgone conclusion

again without evidence to back it up

[tiny sage]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

Societ if they never buffed inferno from beta

[left snow]

This should have ended 15 minutes ago

[scarlet quartz]

i dont think it's that deep
everything but revelation is piss griefing
go S2>S3 and it'll always be better unless you literally kill it in 2 turns

[left snow]

There is no argument, it's just back and forth of nothing

[weary lava]

it really shuldve

[graceful cradle]

you started this shit don't act all innocent now

own it

[left snow]

I also said just stop like 10 times

[tiny sage]

Yeah if you not using Revalation you griefing in all content mhm

[left snow]

But ego battle is just too important for some people

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-lawyers-world-transparency-mundo-gif-12537590

[glass vale]

What we all going to do when they nerf Revelation? 😅

[gilded mason]

They should just shut down this game and make a sequel.

Etheria: Inferno

[scarlet quartz]

same thing we are doing when they dont

[graceful cradle]

i mean you threw the personal insults first, forgive me for not letting you get away with a shit take

[scarlet quartz]

play E7

[graceful cradle]

with bad faith arguments

[gilded mason]

Hop on e7

[weary lava]

not even this, if we use prydens calc then golden lion beats revelation in ST

[left snow]

You literally called everybody stupid

[tiny sage]

get fucked because its basically discount dot that doesn't care if boss is immune to DoT

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/e7-hop-on-e7-twerking-among-us-among-us-gif-22471352

[left snow]

I didn't throw any insults before that

[graceful cradle]

true e7 time

[weary lava]

with revelation/white fang basically being negligible dif in ST

[graceful cradle]

no just you after you tried attacking me for being unable to clear nico

[left snow]

Lmfao

Just wait until I scroll

[young zealot]

I don’t even know if I’ll still be playing when they’ll nerf it honestly 🤣

[graceful cradle]

i mean i already blocked you i'm just responding cuz you out here trying to save face

[left snow]

.

I literally replied that after you said it

You are a literal gaslighter

[tiny sage]

Not in inferno

or pvp

[left snow]

Providing nothing of substance and just saying I am right and anybody who is wrong is stupid

[young zealot]

Why is this discord more interesting than the game 😭

[scarlet quartz]

you did call him clueless

which is lowkey funny

[graceful cradle]

i provided numerous points of contention

you gave.. your feelings

[scarlet quartz]

fuck it fight it out

[graceful cradle]

shrugs what more do you want from me

[gilded mason]

Fight it out

[weary lava]

why lie?

[left snow]

Your point is prywden is right

[scarlet quartz]

arguing about inferno in here is useless anyway these devs are on some island drinking coconut milk with hot servers

[tiny sage]

Trust me from experience White Fang Yeli is worthless trash. Revelation Yeli is top Tier.

[gilded mason]

GUYS REMEMBER WHAT YOU'RR ARGUING OVER. YOU'RE ARGUING ABOUT ETHERIA RESTART LMAO

[scarlet quartz]

white fang yeli is kinda horsecock

[left snow]

Count yeli is the new strat

[left snow]

Just putting words in my mouth

[gilded mason]

Bruh alicorn yeli is best

Just try

[graceful cradle]

i mean idc about this dude lol so who cares

[weary lava]

u obviously care enuf 2 continue arguing with him

[scarlet quartz]

enuf

[left snow]

Okay guys let's stop saying for the 4th time

[weary lava]

and enuf to conveniently forget u called him stupid b4 he threw shit at u for not being able to clear niconana

[gilded mason]

Jack says enough

[scarlet quartz]

enuf

[weary lava]

only 2 lie abt it

lol

[graceful cradle]

no i just don't want him to get away like he was trying to end the convo acting like some saint because now more people agree his take was bad

there's a difference

in regards to what he's saying? nah idc

[scarlet quartz]

he wants blud called out for being allergic to numbers

i respect it

[weary lava]

if tht helps u sleep at night sure

[scarlet quartz]

[tacit ingot]

this btw. arguing over literally nothing

[gilded mason]

Etheria restart isnt worth arguing over man

[scarlet quartz]

i would argue its more worth arguing over than actually playing

[gilded mason]

Well hes got a point

[tiny sage]

Sure it is it was the best gacha game ||in Beta||

[left snow]

If fire king says so

[gilded mason]

Alright keep arguing

[left snow]

When are you waking up from the coma

[gilded mason]

Fire king decrees it

[tacit ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/omaewamo-shindeiruken-youre-already-dead-gif-10814050

[gilded mason]

Im not. Im grinding etheria

[tacit ingot]

this is ER

[muted kraken]

I saw this video earlier and he's using count on yeli and hitting for some crazy numbers https://youtu.be/UCsUAAr9vMI?si=LutuWUobbMfv3Pf2&t=40

[left snow]

💀

[gilded mason]

I'l wake up when devs nerf inferno

[muted kraken]

I'm curious how it compares to revelation

[left snow]

Quit etheria and get me to transden already

[gilded mason]

Also the skins in this game are dog water

Why are they even called skins

[left snow]

Recolours lol

[gilded mason]

And how dare they sell them for real money

They're just chromas

[left snow]

Blacker massiah, yellower gray and valerian

[gilded mason]

LOW EFFORT

[young zealot]

That’s easy money

[graceful cradle]

this would be number crunching i'd like to see

[muted kraken]

yea the 50k hits are wild

[scarlet quartz]

some could say

COUNT me in

HAHA

[left snow]

Rainshi also has a video on inferno auto with count

Relatively low investment

[scarlet quartz]

just use ssania

lowest investment

[marsh topaz]

i cant wait to fight against ssania havers 2 months later when they have godlike gear while i'm still autoing inferno stages

[left snow]

It's ok, they will monitor and nerf it surely

I hate when christian says that

[marsh topaz]

cope 🦧

[left snow]

What more data you need

Nerf rengo already

[scarlet quartz]

no rumors

[graceful cradle]

i'm sure not this next reset but the one after will have changes

ask me why lol

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ive-heard-rumors-sam-owens-the-oval-people-have-been-talking-theres-rumors-gif-24659402

[scarlet quartz]

nop

wont ask

[graceful cradle]

cuz it's after july 3rd

[tiny sage]

Rev does the same damage with 5 less dupes and 170 less Crit Damage on the initial burst 12k Rev Tick + 18k Attack Ticks. vs 33k attacks

[gilded mason]

Why

Are you gae

[tiny sage]

[gilded mason]

Hello who dis

[tiny sage]

on the initial burst

[graceful cradle]

New Light Tenebria

[gilded mason]

Oooo

Spicy

[scarlet quartz]

nah nah nah go find

summer barunka

screenshot

zaee

[graceful cradle]

trueee sec

[scarlet quartz]

shit got me bricked up for 0. no rumors.

[scarlet quartz]

THIS IS THE SKINS WE NEED

[graceful cradle]

LOL

[scarlet quartz]

[graceful cradle]

Well the Bwa is a brand new unit

[tiny sage]

Rev does the same damage with 5 less dupes and 170 less Crit Damage on the initial burst 12k Rev Tick + 18k Attack Ticks. vs 33k attacks

[gilded mason]

I wanna see rc77 summer version

[graceful cradle]

meaning Arunka and Peira should be too

[gilded mason]

Oh victor swimsuit

[scarlet quartz]

no they're skins

we have the 2 new units

Aram and bhwa

[graceful cradle]

sold me, still on Rev supremacy

[graceful cradle]

That's summer pt 1

[scarlet quartz]

we only get 2 units per summer

[gilded mason]

I dont think ill ever go back to e7

[left snow]

Burn his clothes

Master

[gilded mason]

Just gonna wait for chaos zero nightmare

[graceful cradle]

We're also getting special BMs like we got with Aespa when there was 4 limiteds

[scarlet quartz]

yeah but part 2 isnt even called summer anymore

[graceful cradle]

We might be getting 2 more banners

[scarlet quartz]

new limiteds, maybe

not summer units tho

the rest are just skins up there

[graceful cradle]

Why this part 1 is only til August iirc i'd have to double check

[scarlet quartz]

yeah part 2 was called something else, E7 something something

[muted kraken]

gotcha, I'll have to farm one up then. do you just build for 100% cr and all atk% for the bonus dmg or do you use cdmg?

[scarlet quartz]

more focused on the story

[graceful cradle]

we don't know yet i think they released summer units in aug before we'd just have to wait and see i feel

[scarlet quartz]

there is a screenshot somewhere near the end of the livestream

[tiny sage]

atm im on atk because i haven't found a good crit dam module

[graceful cradle]

thats a mood

[graceful cradle]

lemme know if you find it but yeah this is all i have

[scarlet quartz]

yeah dash and summer events got moved up

this year

[graceful cradle]

mhm cuz the full anni is gonna be 3 ish months

[scarlet quartz]

surely for collab

[graceful cradle]

ehhhh idk man

[scarlet quartz]

[graceful cradle]

xD

[muted kraken]

don't you want more atk on her? I thought revelations dmg was based off atk

[scarlet quartz]

but yeah that screenshot just looks like 2 5* skins 2 4* skins and 2 new limiteds

[graceful cradle]

but non-rta ml skins idk i mean it'd be nice if not but i wouldn't mind some more limiteds

@scarlet quartz who you voting for the skin?

Celine Hwa or Aria only choices for me

[scarlet quartz]

Straze

my goat

[graceful cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/shenhe-credit-card-credit-card-meme-genshin-genshin-impact-gif-26048202

I guess Tene and Hwa changed everything now, Top Model Designer Straze actually could happen

palette swaps are nice but i'd love to see what etheria would do for skins

[gilded mason]

Im starting to think they got nothing

Like other games already have multiple skins on launch

This game got zero actual skins

[old zephyr]

They are so lazy they don't know the actual direction they want to take with their game just waiting for ideas from the community to do something they were supposed to do in the first place

It's ridiculous

[gilded mason]

Yeah my gacha instinct tells me...something is off

[left snow]

last time your instincts were off the monk dude died

[gilded mason]

HEY NO RUMOUR

Bro im like 120 years old

Give me a break

[open fable]

maybe its cause they only have2-4 guys doing the game? been thinking about it thats why its such a slopfest rightnow

[gilded mason]

Thats what im thinking

[open fable]

artificially inflate the progression cause not enough staff to work on it?

[left snow]

i doubt they can put out so many maintenances and new characters this fast with a crew that small

[gilded mason]

Feels like they have only like 4 guys

[left snow]

like 3 characters in less than 4 weeks

thats 3 mmonths for some games and more

[open fable]

i mean the game took 2? years

to release

[gilded mason]

Like the patch notes info, mistakes all over the place, numerous bugs

[open fable]

or was it 1?

[gilded mason]

They had years to fix them

[open fable]

also there is the debacle with AI usage who knows

[gilded mason]

Like wtf is going on

Game just feels low effort to me

[open fable]

maybe they even use AI to do the coding

thats why we have alot of issues maybe

[gilded mason]

Who knows

It may be possible

[open fable]

or it could just be a cash grab gacha kewk

[gilded mason]

I feel like they just tried to copy other gacha but have no clue what theyre doing

[half lodge]

There are a lot of bots 🥸 in here

[gilded mason]

Quite weird because their other game sword of covallaria was quite fun to play

And it didnt have so many issues like this game

[young zealot]

Maybe we’re the only 2 humans out here

[open fable]

i rem that game was a legit whalefest or was i wrong?

the gacha was ship summon or something right?

[gilded mason]

Yeah but at least it wasnt riddled with issues, the game was enjoyable

I expect all gacha to be whalefest

Look at seven knights

[young zealot]

Wait they did this game too??

[gilded mason]

Yeah same company

But diff dev team probably

[young zealot]

Damn how the f this did happen

[gilded mason]

Its just weird

[young zealot]

I played sword of convallaria a bit and it was definitely fun

[half lodge]

My main concern is the sudden shift in between releasr communication and qfter

And the intentions

[open fable]

The tax hit them hard? KEWK

[half lodge]

I also really wonder that the issues with double payments got resolved

[gilded mason]

Bruh its just plain sus

Its bait to promote the game

Based on that you can already determine their attitude

[half lodge]

Y i know

[gilded mason]

Sigh

I thought this game was gonna be the next big turn based pvp rpg

Future looks bleak

[half lodge]

Personally i would already quit but due to amount spent i will sit here to another paycheck and if nothing happenes ( and nothing ever happens) i go to another game

[half lodge]

Same especially that the devs were marketing the game as pvp gacha

Not a farming pve gacha

[graceful raven]

world summit global invitationals happening soon, game is saved

[inland chasm]

Idk what yall have game is fun inferno so easy to beat, i get epic shells and 2 nod modules i always wanted, i only get bramble and def set from doki who needs speed fr, event rewards are soo good...

[foggy reef]

People want end game in 1 month of game with full equip maxed to pvp only and quit After another month cause only pvp make you bored

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-6502286207230651503

[half lodge]

Yes because IT was marketed like that?
Do you think the requirement is to Play 6 months until you can experiment and have fun in the main gimmick of the game which isnpvp

[foggy reef]

You know you can play the pvp with the equip you have too now? And enjoy It as It Is ? , or you wait everything maxed to play the pvp?

[young zealot]

Idk if we should really consider inferno farming stages endgame.. I mean for now they kinda are but should they be endgame?

[half lodge]

You know you can pull every character dupe 6!

[half lodge]

What is even the reasoning

[foggy reef]

You Need It? Nha

[inland chasm]

Enjoy where? I dont enjoy get my ass clapped by whales who have already beaten every inferno and have like 1 million speed and dps that think one shot is nirmal against tank units yeah very fun

[foggy reef]

End game Is, play the game to close the pve content, to farm equip for pvp

[half lodge]

Super enjoyable IT was marketed like that

[young zealot]

Well, I’d say ember trek or the other 15 days game mode are closer to what I’d consider endgame

[foggy reef]

You know its not about Money but about luck? Im p2w player and im not even close with the Speed other player have, my Lily/mio is at 320 Speed and i barely can stay in top 200 pvp

[half lodge]

They are, and they are pretty fun i would say they are tough resting content

[young zealot]

Difficult mode to test out your limits and that you can tryhard to max out your rewards

[foggy reef]

So its about luck , not about Money

[small knot]

My goat dharles

Charles

[young zealot]

Pretty fun aside from the useless stages where you need to run around looking for chests 😄

[inland chasm]

Ofc its money and ifc luck but mostly money weekly buying module currency to get speed set, buy lattice to upgrade skills which give guess what... speed. Buying shell and coin mats to even upgrade things yeah absolutely not based on money nah

[foggy reef]

Agree

[foggy reef]

You know its random? I buy them and i take shit from It

[small knot]

Oh trueee sometimes I forget lattice give speed on s1

[graceful cradle]

yeee

[inland chasm]

I know its random but the more you buy rhe more you get pls.....

All i get from doki is bramble and unbreakable set

Atleast they can buy speed set

[foggy reef]

Ofc but its 5 module a week , you Need to be very lucky

Also lucky with the upgrade

[small knot]

I’m always thinking how players get several +18 spd gear to be at 280+ spd and it’s like wait 15 comes from lattice that I don’t have and my shell passive that I need to reroll for sigh

[graceful raven]

you can be very unlucky with speed rolls even if you whale lol

the game doesn't work like that

[foggy reef]

Exactly

[young zealot]

It’s not even a money thing. You have f2p (and/or rerollers) with certain units that can literally run on every thing

[foggy reef]

Its luck based not Money

Rng Is everything

[graceful raven]

in this game if you whale, it gives you "more tries", but if your luck is shit, it's shit

[small knot]

Reroll passive with the training data I don’t have because of currency starvation

True but did you know xd increases rates in your account if you spend money

[foggy reef]

Whaling you Just have more chance to get something good cause you play and farm way more than an f2p, but if you are unlucky hehe you can't do a shit

[small knot]

The moment I spent money on the game I got 2 back to back ld ssrs after not getting a single one in like 20+ ssrs

And then all my ssrs after that were early

[young zealot]

Now that you talk about it ..

[small knot]

Xd secretly changes the rate values when you spend money

[graceful raven]

if you have no idea about the concept of gear speed checking then it's simply because you dont know what you're doing and not because whales somehow magically have more speed gears

[inland chasm]

More chances are better than none and since u can buy speed set immediatly u dont need to farm just for the set (not talking abt subs) i farm for three days and still no speed set piece

[small knot]

Whales get more speed cus they bought lattice packs to upgrade s1 on their supports which f2p don’t have the luxury to do rn that’s where the real speed gap is tbh

[inland chasm]

Thats what i wrote aswell but thise ignored like it doesnt matter

[half lodge]

Enlighten us almighty one what is the concept of speed checking

[true trench]

good luck on presenting facts to the average whale whos living in denial that the money does indeed guarantee results in cash shop mobile games

[inland chasm]

Not only that they forget everything needs to be upgeaded what is hard af since everything is expensive

[half lodge]

And we all know that they know otherwise they wouldnt spend such arbitrary amount of money to talk on formus

[young zealot]

Are we arguing about the fact that whales have better gear than f2p?

[gilded mason]

Whales will definitely have an edge

[young zealot]

I mean that’s the definition of whales so yeah

[true trench]

to be fair it takes a decent amount of brain capacity to see things from multiple perspectives. no matter what corner youre sitting in yourself

[small knot]

They can buy stabilizers and packs that give resources but really their lead in terms of gear shouldn’t be that much ahead

[graceful raven]

you have a limited amount of coins to upgrade gears in this game so it is impossible to wait until a gear is +15 to see if the speed is good or not
you ideally want to start with a gear that has 3 lines and 1 line of speed in it
then you upgrade it to +6, if it goes into speed, continue rolling it to +9, if at +9 it does not hit the speed roll just discard the gear because you get back the coins with very little loss at this point
then just repeat

if you are upgrading everything to +15 then good luck having speed gear

[neon hollow]

The sabilizers that you can buy are very limited... unless F2P are not doing the 10 refreshes a day maybe. The gear advantage would be minimal imo. Far more important is your damn luck cause i get sht drops

[young zealot]

Who cares about whales, honestly they’ll always be at the top.

[gilded mason]

Truth of all gachas

[young zealot]

You’ll hit a stop in PvP and stay in the f2p zone that’s it

Except if you’re really good I guess

[inland chasm]

Yeah whats bad since mythic give us lattice

[true trench]

thinks its been a few days since f2ps ran out of juice to do the refreshes

[neon hollow]

i mean its 1 lattice man

[true trench]

especially if they want to click the summon button anytime soon

[neon hollow]

at the end of the season

[gilded mason]

Yeah whales can keep 10x refreshing

Gap will just widen

[inland chasm]

1 lattice is a lot tbh

[gilded mason]

Well its the same in all gachas anyway

[inland chasm]

But i know what you mean

[half lodge]

Especially with amount of options od characters they can pick

[neon hollow]

I am not buying crystals and still x10 refreshing ? did you guys use yours all on summons or something

[gilded mason]

F2p will run out soon, if they havent run out already

[small knot]

Bro assumes I get 3 line with 1 line spd gear in the first place

[gilded mason]

Thats when the riot will begin

[half lodge]

Refrezhing with premium currency is a wild concept to me

[small knot]

Jokes aside that’s right tho

That’s how you efficiently roll for spd gear

[neon hollow]

i mean its literally the best thing to use it for

[half lodge]

For progression it is

Yeah

[small knot]

I assure you f2p don’t have the crystals to be pushing 10 stamina refreshes everyday

[graceful cradle]

no in general in E7 i always use SS for more hunts/rifts

gear gachas being able to farm more is king

[small knot]

If you spent large numbers of crystals on summons at any point you’re probably almost out of crystals

[neon hollow]

Not sure what games you guys were playing that you didnt need prem currency for stamina

[small knot]

I max refresh until 50 and then stopped cus I was broke asf

[half lodge]

Literally normal games XDM

[left snow]

i have 2 accounts one is where i play f2p other one is not f2p

[foggy reef]

I'm not saying that whales don't have an advantage, but that you have to be lucky, with money you just have more chance

[half lodge]

????

[neon hollow]

Like what gacha games

[winged ocean]

you can only use crystals for summon if you are a whale

[young zealot]

I think most mainstream games, like the hoyo games, kuro games etc… I play those and premium currency is summon only

[half lodge]

No i say literally normal games

[small knot]

Personally I’m saving 2k to buy weekly packs for summons so I can hopefully get lily or SSania

[neon hollow]

Well its not a normal game its a gacha game lol

[half lodge]

This

As the guy wrote

[small knot]

You can use premium currency to get stamina tho

[neon hollow]

You are comparing apples to oranges

[small knot]

Not that you should ever do that

[half lodge]

No we arent

[neon hollow]

Yes you are

[thin crystal]

is this thread still ongoing lol

[neon hollow]

Gacha games are not normal games

[small knot]

Not for the right purposes lol

[young zealot]

The thing though is that we get lots of summons already, so if you don’t want to fully dupe a unit you can definitely spend crystals in stamina. But yeah that’s a choice

[graceful raven]

gacha games are predatory in nature so idk what yall expected lol

[neon hollow]

Why do you think its called Gacha lol

[half lodge]

The only pvp gacha i have played more than 5 minutes was dislyte i dont know if you know it for like 2 y

[neon hollow]

Yes i played Dislyte

[half lodge]

To gamble for characters not the funny attificial resources to Play the game

[small knot]

What are consumer friendly practices????

[neon hollow]

I have played most mainstream gacha's for the past 10 years.. This is not new

[half lodge]

And what do you think about it

[thin crystal]

this is like general now

[neon hollow]

It was fine. got boring to me

[small knot]

Yes

It’s more like

General for the complainers

But yes

[young zealot]

Dislyte soundtrack was dope ! I played for few months too

[thin crystal]

i would love to complain too

rengo too hard!

[half lodge]

Yeah i love this aesthethic still

[small knot]

I mean it was alright I guess the concept was cool and they had some good tracks but not all of them were hits like a lot of more mainstream gachas

[left snow]

is that a pp of fiora before her rework

[half lodge]

More and more games are going even in the gacha space into the this modern city like aesthethic

[small knot]

Hyv got top notch music arknights got top notch music

[thin crystal]

nah its garen pre transition

[small knot]

Kuro also has top notch music

[small knot]

I was unaware of your game

Yall know what else got top notch music

LOVE AND DEEPSPACE

Sorry is this the wrong target audience

Yall don’t play these type of games huh

[thin crystal]

ur weird

[graceful raven]

i just googled it

[undone vortex]

you can't tell me what to do

[small knot]

Sorry for liking men

[uncut mica]

If they haven't spammed on summons F2P can still have ~18k in the bank even 10x refreshing every day since launch. I'm at 20k and the only gems I've got that are paid are from the monthly pass.

[small knot]

I have spammed

[ruby canyon]

well i did play infinity nikki for a bit

[small knot]

[small knot]

Infinity Nikki was trash tho

That’s the difference

[left snow]

i heard many things about this game

and none of them were good

[graceful raven]

Infinity nikki falloff was crazy

[undone vortex]

infold thought increasing max pity was a good idea

💀

[graceful raven]

It's so that if you get it below the pity you'll feel much better

[undone vortex]

😭

[small knot]

Game had good direction for the start

But yeah falloff was so insane

[undone vortex]

yea iirc they had a good foundation and then they

backtracked all of it

[small knot]

No one could have imagined it

[undone vortex]

from the story, pity, and daily rewards

[small knot]

It’s ok cus love and deepspace hasn’t done any of that shit

[ruby canyon]

doesn't that remind you of something...

[small knot]

Etheria falloff is crazy

[inland chasm]

Not yet

[undone vortex]

etheria:ended

[small knot]

They literally can’t love and deepspace is their cash cow they know that those updates ruined IN they can’t implement it to lads or else their company will go bankrupt

[graceful raven]

Crazy thing is etheria hasnt launched for some regions yet

And its already this bad

[inland chasm]

Which region have no Access to it?

[graceful raven]

China, Japan are the only 2 I know of

Still in pre-register

[ruby canyon]

the game is not bad at all, I dare say it has the best and most content of any gacha launch I've played. It's just poor tuning and communication

[inland chasm]

Isnt this game from chinese company...

[graceful raven]

Yes but they are barely doing anything on the chinese side from what I see

[inland chasm]

Lol

[graceful raven]

Their social media followers are very low

On chinese social medias

Its like they barely advertised the game lmao

[small knot]

I say ember trek and Ethernet would never be good content unless you can skip the minor stages

[inland chasm]

They should tbh thats where the money comes from

[undone vortex]

Ember trek thundermark is so lol

[gilded mason]

Its not me, its jack

He said no rumor

[ruby canyon]

maybe yea

[undone vortex]

he can't tell me what to do

😤

[gilded mason]

Steven spread rumors and look where he is

Hes been erased

[undone vortex]

who's steven

[small knot]

And even then they need to fix the rng in ember trek

[gilded mason]

Exactly

[ruby canyon]

I thought ethernet had like a roguelike aspect in beta where you chose buffs, did they remove that

[gilded mason]

Exactly

@drowsy gust

See hes dead

[small knot]

Forgotten 💔

[gilded mason]

Hes been eliminated by XD

[undone vortex]

Ethernet was describe as a rogue like and I'm like

roguelike where

[small knot]

A relic of the past 🥀

[mental mural]

I guess you can change that shitty home screen into something else

[graceful raven]

2000 followers 💀

[small knot]

What a great following

Usually good gacha games start with millions

[inland chasm]

Thats a lot xD

[left snow]

i like ember trek ngl

[gilded mason]

Couldnt they have just paid to get fake subs

[small knot]

Gang some of the high schoolers I know got 2k followers

[undone vortex]

ember trek is fine if they got rid of thundermark, astarte and apate

[small knot]

2k followers is not a lot

[undone vortex]

2k followers in a country like china

💀 💀 💀 💀

[small knot]

Tbf they don’t use TikTok that much

[ruby canyon]

bruh i have more and i haven't used tiktok in years

[graceful raven]

other platforms are not that great either

the most they have is on bilibili 22k follows

[inland chasm]

They should have released it in china same time as in global or earlier

[small knot]

22k on the yt equivalent is lowk cooked

I know games in beta with a greater following

[undone vortex]

we are the beta test

the real beta

[inland chasm]

Early access xD

[undone vortex]

I'm spreading rumors

[ruby canyon]

even their yt vids get like 10k views

[small knot]

Summon jack

[graceful raven]

8k views on Freya intro video

[undone vortex]

lmao Freya is like

their cash cow

[graceful cradle]

mhm

[undone vortex]

they invested a lot in her jiggle physics probably

[small knot]

W-what about yeli

[undone vortex]

only for 8k

smh

[graceful raven]

freya is giga nerfed in the 3d model

her 2d is crazy

[ruby canyon]

end of june gacha stats will be up right, we'll see how much they've made

[graceful raven]

at least $7 because I bought the monthly gem pass

[mental mural]

Now let's compare actual homescreens instead of character animation
And i imagine what you showed is the summon animation?

[graceful cradle]

nope animated screen of luna

[small knot]

Not enough

That’s how much they made

[graceful raven]

which is why you should buy more to support our small local company

[small knot]

Maybe like $100k

[graceful raven]

they're trying their best yknow

[small knot]

100k+ range I don’t think they made 1 million tho

[small knot]

Try harder

[mental mural]

Who thought they made 1 million?

💀

[mental mural]

Is it not the same as the one you see when you try to summon for her?

[graceful raven]

next patch notes: Diting nerfed, added 50/50 to pity to match industry standards, inferno difficulty increased because it's too easy

[mental mural]

They've all been nerfed lol

[valid zephyr]

Man Rengokutsu Inferno is so dumb

Random guaranteed silence

[mental mural]

It is

[valid zephyr]

I brought 180% eff res just to test

[graceful cradle]

nah it's a unique screen

just like harsetti's

[graceful raven]

i love it when he switches element to light and one shots my diting

[valid zephyr]

And I still got silenced

Like Bro what the fuck

180% eff res

[ruby canyon]

Grandy alone has spent this much

[valid zephyr]

And the silence still went through

[mental mural]

I dont know who that is as I quit 2 weeks in

[small knot]

Building eff res was your first mistake

[valid zephyr]

No it either means the beginner FAQ formula is incorrect

Or they designed the boss in a ridiculous manner

Because its already base 70% chance for the mob to land the debuff

If they gave them 100 eff acc on top of that

[small knot]

We been known that bosses are overtuned

[small knot]

That’s why building eff res is a mistake

[valid zephyr]

Might as well have fucking made it 100% chsnce

Its the same fucking thing

[graceful raven]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

[small knot]

[valid zephyr]

Oh I didnt build eff res for that

I built it for PVP

I just slapped on random pieces to test

[small knot]

Did it work

[valid zephyr]

I said it

[small knot]

Are you resisting the revelation openers

[valid zephyr]

180% eff res and silence still went though

[graceful raven]

they gone full azur lane / blue archive for the home screen

[valid zephyr]

Oh I out speed those people

The ones I have problem with

[small knot]

What if they just have 200 eff acc

[valid zephyr]

Are the debuffing stallers

That build tanky

[small knot]

Are you sure it’s not just the shell and random subs

[valid zephyr]

I just put once piece each on my buffing supports

[graceful cradle]

damn i missed it when her eyes were open

[valid zephyr]

It does help

[small knot]

How can you know what their exact build is unless they share it

[graceful raven]

rengokutsu is a whale so he'll have better gear than us

its normal

[valid zephyr]

Youre supposed to guess and predict thats how you draft in RTA

Obviously you dont know what their build is

But you try to guess based on their picks

[small knot]

Exactly so what if they have a unique build and are on 200% eff acc

[valid zephyr]

Yea but youre not supposed to win everything

[graceful cradle]

expect new Tene to have a special homescreen too

[valid zephyr]

Thats like saying what if one day you get struck by lightning

Then you suck it and move on

[old zephyr]

Best is quite the stretch

[valid zephyr]

You cant win every PVP match you win some and lose some

[small knot]

Ykw why am I defending xd

I don’t have lily

[valid zephyr]

Eff res just helps to block the people who dont have that much eff acc

[mental mural]

I never saw an option to do this when I played

[graceful cradle]

you just click on the little house icon it's been around since uhhhh well at least sometime near covid

@mental mural

[hexed jay]

I don't think they developed the entirety of wuwa 2.0 in 1 month.

[small knot]

lol if content came and went that fast people wouldn’t play even if the game was excellent in every aspect

[polar pier]

The game is knowledge based, people come up all the time with new strats to beat the next level, you’re supposed to struggle in inferno, thats why they call it inferno, its not pay to lily or s sania, you just need to learn how to work with your available characters, adjust your modules, find whatever your lacking, perhabs you need a slight upgrade on your shells, maybe you’re building your characters wrong? You are supposed to think and strategies and fail until you find a way to get over it

And from my personal experience as someone who is still stuck on hell 4, i reached mythic in arena with 12/12 sets, and some of my characters are still on just one 12 set but i made some strategies to help me progress.

[hexed jay]

So many dumb and unrealistic takes in here lmao

All that aside I think they've done decent changes in just 3 weeks. Just need to improve in communication better

[fringe mesa]

just got ssania yesterday and this game is so different lmao

[young zealot]

So you’re stuck at hell iv while lily/ssania havers spam inferno for two weeks with the same teams and you’re thinking “yeah it’s fine, ^^”

• the “strats” are so fun btw, cheese 4 artisans 34 mins clears

[gilded mason]

Big brain

[polar pier]

im not sure if you understand its not always the best way to build your characters with 3 sets to build your characters properly.

also its not that big of a gap to achieve the same thing a week or two later, like, you have completed 95% of pve, its not a race anymore, you're in the time where you start planning what you wanna do for pvp

its not a problem in the game, its a problem with your OCD

[young zealot]

Big gap or not, it’s still a gap. + the thing is that it brings frustration. 2 units allowed people to start clearing inferno with little to no investment while us, peasants, had to think about which unit in our 40 units rosters we should invest into. If you’re lucky, you’ve invested into the right ones. If you’re not, then try again. Oops nope, no more resources to invest

I don’t even understand how hard it is for people to understand this. How the f do people think this is balanced 😅

[polar pier]

basically you're saying that your OCD is killing you right now

thats all what im reading

[young zealot]

I’m just saying there is unbalance in the game

And nobody can say there isn’t

[polar pier]

of course its not balance, its a gacha

you get random characters and learn to work with them

[gilded mason]

Nah its poor game design

[young zealot]

I’ve played some gacha and honestly I haven’t been this frustrated

So I think the game has a problem

[left snow]

im not going to agree with the other guy on the balance not being a problem

[graceful raven]

name 10 gachas

[left snow]

but in top 20 rta a lot of people are using SR openers

[gilded mason]

When 2 units let you clear wuth little investment, its poor design

[left snow]

yang, rc-77, rin etc

[young zealot]

What’s my reward ?

[graceful raven]

you get lily ssania kloss in your next 10 pull

[young zealot]

Interesting ..

[young zealot]

I’m not even top ranked in PvP honestly so I won’t argue about it

[true trench]

lily haver not agreeing to lily being borderline required for early clears. truly shocking

[left snow]

i mean you still need god speed rolls if you want to play any comp that isnt tank down

cc, cleave, rev abuse all want very fast openers

[graceful raven]

use lily to get to inferno threshhold, then use the gears you get from there to equip SR/Rs, and say "no lily was used"

[left snow]

only comp so far where you can get away with gear disadvantage is tank down

[young zealot]

Oh, well yeah indeed.

[left snow]

4-5 rev user team for example the rank 3 guy plays

all of his guys are around 300-310 speed

pre bans and post bans openers and just 1 taps you

heinrich-freya-kazuyo-rc-77-dps

if you cant get good speed rolls and want to push rta, in the current meta which is obviously likely to change in the future your best bet is tank down

[young zealot]

Well, speed is king for sure.. but yeah reaching 300+ speed is crazy

[left snow]

my tsukiyomi is 324 speed

[young zealot]

It’s like 10+ speed on every piece I guess

• a 6piece inferno set maybe ? idk

[true trench]

and max s1

[left snow]

funny thing is

most of my supports like tsukiyomi use dps shells atm

so i can use swiftraid

i need a better aurora team so i can switch to swiftsmite

🤣

well anyway getting sidetracked

anybody who claims gear diff is a problem and very hard to close the gap doesnt play rta

how many people actually have multiple 300-320 speed openers

not just 1

[main elm]

326 Mio here, still get outsped 30% of the time

[left snow]

sounds like etherena

[tiny sage]

Farming Stages should not be Difficulty

and at their current difficulty the drop rates need to be increase 2-3x and the 2 matrix and epic shells removed

Nico Inferno is currently the only balanced inferno stage

[polar pier]

they cant just throw everyting to everyone effortless, otherwise the PVE would be boring

if its easy, no one would spend time trying to learn everything in the game

[weak meteor]

what, theres ember trek and ethernet rally for challenging pve

[polar pier]

just pick what mr. snoople's op team from youtube and farm

[errant dome]

its called quality of life, there already exists hard pve content that has seasonal modifiers

these stages are meant to be auto farmed

[polar pier]

after inferno becomes easy, people will shift their complains on the next thing they cant beat

[polar pier]

yes but not on the third week

[errant dome]

the people complaining are those who have been maxing stamina since day 1

thats months worth of stamina in progress

[tiny sage]

PvE(Inferno) is already boring because its tedious and dogshit.

[errant dome]

currently there is no way to guarantee 100% inferno auto clears

[tiny sage]

PvE(Ethernet/EmberTrek) is good

[errant dome]

which is what should be a baseline to start endgame farm

inferno isnt endgame, its the start of the farm for endgame modules and shells

to build for rta, pvp and challenging pve content

[weak meteor]

ye lets gatekeep the endgame gearing and just pray the playerbase will stick it out... that sure sounds very smart

except its not

[tiny sage]

IF IT IS ENDGAME Then they need to Remove 2 Matrix Modules. 2 Liners Epic Shells. and Double the Module/Level up mats that drop from them.

[small knot]

Can you explain to me the difficulty of other farming stages in turn based games with pvp?

[polar pier]

i can agree with you if its like been a decent period of unlocking the mode and people have not yet beat it, like lets say now after the recent nerfs two or three weeks in and still even after min maxing your stats and strats you cant beat, i would consider a nerf at this point

[errant dome]

some people just love to live in mountains and trek hours to get their glass of water

[tiny sage]

so 210 Days isn't enough time

30 Level higher then the recommened level isn't enough time

[weak meteor]

nah, hes probably using op meta teams so he feels its not an issue

and he thinks everyone has access to those teams too

[small knot]

I swam through the lake everyday to get to school ahh mindset

We ain’t 1900s Asian parents

[weak meteor]

just clear it with the op team, ITS JUST THAT EZ

[polar pier]

210 days? you mean stamina wise? bro even top f2p players are maxing stamina, if you wanna keep it for summons do your thing

its not a bad stratigy, but if you willing to be patient on stamina, you can also have more patience on inferno

[tiny sage]

nope Gems are only for Refreshing

but that is the day we are on.

because of refreshes

30 levels higher then the recommended level to farm that shit

[polar pier]

i dont agree with your logic

[tiny sage]

Maybe they shouldn't have balanced around max dupe max lattice SSR

Every Inferno should be clearable at 1 1 1 (SSR) if on element or L/D and no dupes

hot take i know

[tall saddle]

worst thing it was balanced properly in beta

then they made it this crap for no reason

[small knot]

Might be too hot for the white knights

[tiny sage]

yep

Took Perfection and threw it in the shitter

[tall saddle]

so many beta tests and then they just throw all the testing away and up the numbers for lulz

[small knot]

Honestly the nerfs should have just straight up been returning every boss back to final beta

[tiny sage]

sorry the passive aggressive twitter posts from the devs/whoever run the twitter pissed me off.

[small knot]

But ig we take these baby steps

[tiny sage]

im no longer holding back

[small knot]

Ask staff channel is always funny

[mental mural]

Holy this one is delulu

[tiny sage]

At this point add a Sweep feature with 100% Clear

shit is ass

[old zephyr]

Careful the white knight mobs are coming for u🤣

[tiny sage]

The white knights are just people who want more people to quit so they have a slightly higher chance at climbing in RTA

but they dont realize with no players they can't afford to sponser tourneys

[old zephyr]

They said we all f2p that's why we are complaining and we should quit and go play hoyoverse games

It's ridiculous

[tiny sage]

Oh im def not f2p

I have lily and ssania

gamestate* and farming is still turbo ass in the current state

[stable dagger]

gold shells shouldn't be dropping on inferno

[tiny sage]

When you have to spend 6-8 hours a day if you wanna farm inferno(Modules/Sharon/Rengoku)

its fucked

and hell rengoku gives better drops then inferno nico

so

[stable dagger]

tbh with Ssania plus Lily it ain't that long, but to those who don't have them RIP this is your job now

[tiny sage]

Depends on the fight but yeah

[stable dagger]

oh yeah, rng fck you hard there

introducing rng on the farming stage is diabolical

[tiny sage]

imagine being level 100 and still struggling on inferno (It will happen)

[muted kraken]

do you guys think it’d be worth saving all my stabilizers for 2-3 weeks and slowing down progress to get the lattices?

[small knot]

Not really

[muted kraken]

I feel like having the prowess would help me push harder content and I can use the stamina then

[chilly iron]

Hii serra big fan here from mr pokke live

[small knot]

Yes but pushing the content now will help you get access to more Ethernet and more ember trek

[muted kraken]

that’s true, I didn’t think about that

[tiny sage]

yo hyper

[small knot]

And also limited events that they release

People who used up all their stabilizers and have good characters will be able to do decently in cage rumble

But if you saved most of your stabilizers and weren’t refreshing you wouldn’t even be able to imagine touching hard content

[chilly iron]

I was rooting for you in last weekly tournament but sadly those mega whale won

[small knot]

Which would put you months behind other people

[stable dagger]

i was able to get the SR/SSR summon can't get the last lattice frag tho

prolly at the end of the event i might get that last reward

[muted kraken]

i’m already months behind since I don’t max refresh lol

[tiny sage]

?

We won the last tournament

lol

i was on the team with tec and jena

[chilly iron]

I just login and Do my 40 runs of inferno shell and logout I will start playing when I get 3 matrix shel

[chilly iron]

I thought you were in mr pokke team

[muted kraken]

good luck mate

[chilly iron]

My bad

I didn't watch full live because it was 3 am in the morning here

[tiny sage]

nah lol

[small knot]

What even happened with him

I stopped following the drama

[chilly iron]

He got smashed my Whales

[small knot]

No like

Not in the context of the tourney

I meant like overall what happened to him as a cc because I recall there being major drama surrounding him and his behavior

[chilly iron]

He was in a drama with kurobot but I don't know much about it I have just watched him few times playing Epic 7

[inland warren]

Tbh, etheria was the best advertisement for e7. It pulled in people that might have been interested in e7, disappointed them and now they will move to e7

[small knot]

Is this all a secret ploy

[tribal osprey]

stares at ssania and lily in the corner

[small knot]

Xd was actually part of smilegate all along

[stable dagger]

they should wait for e7 anniv since it's soon, it's the best start the event rn kinda ahh for new players imo

[small knot]

Tbh to retain their current players

They would need to release an update on the level of a 2x event

But you know that’s impossible

And you know they won’t fix their existing problems

Soooo

Eos