Nice to see teams without meta ssania
#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k
split halo
dreamy cliff
Yes
inland warren
I mean the nerfs they did made so I can only clear niconana. Terror is still unclearable and i cant get any more dps out of my characters tbh. Could probably clear it if i had lily but eh...
Will be farming niconana until they actually decide to nerf inferno more (otherwise it will be a slow decline until I wont be logging in anymore)
sour lotus
inland warren
I spent thousands. Clearing a nerfed inferno boss is the bare minimum i would expect
gilded mason
I mean the nerfs they did made so I can only clear niconana. Terror is still unc...
what team you using for terro?
inland warren
what team you using for terro?
Diting khloros freya as core, i'm experimenting with other characters like veronika but I just cant kill it fast enough
gilded mason
this clears
pastel inlet
shadow flame hoyan? how much investment does celine need
inland warren
Yeah that's the one i'm going for
I just dont do enough dmg
I can't kill it in two rotations lol
young tree
shadow flame hoyan? how much investment does celine need
yea, I think celine was 1/1/5
gilded mason
yea, I think celine was 1/1/5
pearl knot
you can do Hooyan on manual with a 4star 1/1/1 celine
how tf you kill this with green/yellow units
glass vale
shadow flame hoyan? how much investment does celine need
My Celince for Hoyan has 0 lattices
glass vale
how tf you kill this with green/yellow units
Slowly lol
I did it with a janky full eff Battlewill Hoyan to try and proc heal block from her S1 as much as possible
full delta
how tf you kill this with green/yellow units
Same as how we did Anisync
Bunch of buffs
From Freya
And Valerian
pearl knot
oh ok i just ignored that with sania on the dark side
full delta
Yep we can kill off the majority of the last with dots so it’s like wtv
hexed jay
how tf you kill this with green/yellow units
Pull yeli 😂
crude sparrow
how tf you kill this with green/yellow units
wait to fight kururu
foggy reef
Team?
foggy reef
Hoyan inferno guys best team for safe 80/100wr?
winged ocean
i use celince ling ssania lily
celince with codex
surreal bobcat
celince is a guarantee
errant dome
auto inferno rengo when
minor rover
auto inferno rengo when
when 2.0 lily drops
foggy reef
What about aurora inferno, anyone know anything that work with xiada maybe
I have Xiada, diting, yeli, massiah as dps upgraded
left snow
What about aurora inferno, anyone know anything that work with xiada maybe
do you have lily ?
foggy reef
do you have lily ?
Yes , but no viper
pure junco
Find a substitute for Viper
left snow
best alternative would be holden, but your team would need a lot more investment to make it work
dense mauve
niconana and terrormaton were good steps in the right direction, but i do hope these are some of many on the way. This doesn't mean radio silence for another 2 weeks. Please continue to communicate with us on the updates!
pure junco
best alternative would be holden, but your team would need a lot more investment...
True. It always goes back to how much you're willing to invest with the resources we currently have access to
pure junco
niconana and terrormaton were good steps in the right direction, but i do hope t...
We'll see
pure junco
We may not cuz they forgot to put it inside the patch notes
No rumors Aiaz 
gilded mason
No rumors Aiaz <:zf_hahaha:1378557204969422999>
foggy reef
Nice Money and lattices Lost, 7k a hit with that stats in rengokutsu inferno gg xD
pure junco
Congratulations
young zealot
Nice Money and lattices Lost, 7k a hit with that stats in rengokutsu inferno gg ...
So was their showcase with a fully maxed yeli? I remember she was biting like 20k or something
warped dune
Nice Money and lattices Lost, 7k a hit with that stats in rengokutsu inferno gg ...
You have attack down
And her defense down overlaps with kloss
In that teamcomb diting is better than her
pure junco
Truly a premium unit
warped kestrel
Nice Money and lattices Lost, 7k a hit with that stats in rengokutsu inferno gg ...
Deserved. Keep defending bad game design.
left snow
Nice Money and lattices Lost, 7k a hit with that stats in rengokutsu inferno gg ...
try replacing kloss with dinah
and valerian with freya so you only have 1 light unit
1 green, 1 light, 1 dark, 1 red
codex on dinah
but your investment is still too low i would say
1/5/1 might work, 4/5/1 is good for pve, 4/5/5 is ideal
graceful juniper
Yea missing like 40% multiplier from her s1
warped dune
Truly a premium unit
Actually i am very happy that shes not op
Shows me that they really care about the balancing part and are trying to not create fomo with new units
The only outlier is lily but thats it imo
foggy reef
Deserved. Keep defending bad game design.
The problem Is not the content lol
Its the new hero
warped kestrel
Its the new hero
No, the problem is your skill issue, you're not able to overcome the content with the new hero because you're just not good enough at the game. Try farming for another month and investing more on your hero, it's just hard PvE content, just how you like it. 
foggy reef
No, the problem is your skill issue, you're not able to overcome the content wit...
I have no problems with other heroes, with that One yes so
Again, its not the content
And its not me
warped kestrel
I have no problems with other heroes, with that One yes so
Again, skill issue. Better players can do that boss with that hero. You just need to invest more and grind more. Enjoy.
rose canopy
warped kestrel
This is obviously a skill issue, look, the third fastest clear uses her. What's your excuse?
Just get good bro.
warped kestrel
Look her skills
You need to invest into her skills, or what, do you want the game to be "too easy"? Don't be ridiculous, it's ok that we're expected to max skill all our units before tackling farming PvE content, it's just how you like it.
What's wrong? is it a problem now that it affects you? It wasn't a problem when this was affecting other people while you free farmed and got ahead of the rest, but now that it affects you, it's suddenly a problem and you should be able to farm with low investment into your units, funny how that works.
pure junco
Shows me that they really care about the balancing part and are trying to not cr...
If they didn't do this, they'll have more whales complaining F2P have Lily and are beating them
graceful cradle
Its the new hero
Get good. The unit clears the content. Stop complaining for buffs just learn the game better. This is a marathon not a sprint
Annoying isn't it?
ruby canyon
im starting to think for some ppl inferno is not the issue, it's their brain
pure junco
Could be
warped kestrel
Get good. The unit clears the content. Stop complaining for buffs just learn the...
Just farm for another month lol.
It's end game content, we're only 3 weeks in!
Invest more into your units!
The hypocrisy disgusts me.
left snow
im starting to think for some ppl inferno is not the issue, it's their brain
1/4/1 yeli
graceful cradle
Just farm for another month lol.
It's end game content, we're only 3 weeks in!
I...
Man people just want everything to be handed to them all the time. You expect to do all the content with 0/0/0!!!
ruby canyon
1/4/1 yeli
with atk down, no atk buff
left snow
thats like putting 1/1/4 to mass with mid gear and complaining he cant do doki and aurora
ruby canyon
and 3k atk value
left snow
my yeli outpace my diting and its not close unless yeli gets absolute dog rng
graceful cradle
People said before she was pulled she was an 8 lattice min char
left snow
People said before she was pulled she was an 8 lattice min char
she is 7 lattice minumum char
4/5/1
graceful cradle
Did they think it was a suggestion?
left snow
i think she is the best pve dps atm, and also quite good in pvp
she is a reliable alternative to mass for cleaving
ruby canyon
she obviously is and it's not even close
foggy reef
@warped kestrel idk whats your problem, devs listened your cryes nerfing niconana inferno and terrormatan, now niconana can be done without equip, you want the game Easy nerfing the content, i Just want to use an Hero without make her skills maxed, since the fking latexes are not enought for all the Hero we Need
left snow
she obviously is and it's not even close
she basically does 2 diting s3's every turn lol
well for the first 2 turns
then keeps doing 1 diting s3 per turn
winged ocean
you release the best LD dps in the game and people complain she is too weak
imagine if the unit was actually average
ruby canyon
devs will get so many death threats if they ever make a unit that doesnt powercreep lmao
graceful cradle
<@1147177125372235877> idk whats your problem, devs listened your cryes nerfing ...
Sounds like a skill issue. Try her in a month. M A R A T H O N baby
warped kestrel
<@1147177125372235877> idk whats your problem, devs listened your cryes nerfing ...
My problem is that you're a hypocrite who came here to defend the terrible design of Inferno content and were bold enough to say that devs shouldn't listen to our "cries" or "game dies" - yet here you are, 10 days later, "crying" about not being able to clear Inferno content with your new unit. You said that you like hard PvE content, so you should be loving that Rengo is hard PvE content with your new unit.
Again, this is all a skill issue on your part - the 3 fastest clear is using that character.
errant dome
love when s.sania enjoyers complain about other heros + rengo
graceful cradle
Yup they get to enjoy the suffering like the rest of us
foggy reef
My problem is that you're a hypocrite who came here to defend the terrible desig...
I can do It with diting, i have no problem clearing that, i was Just testing new Hero that should be Better than diting but It isn't 😄 same equip diting can win that dealing 100/150k x hit, this One deal 7k bru 😂
pure junco
Flamel doesn't forget, Flamel sees all 🫡
warped kestrel
I can do It with diting, i have no problem clearing that, i was Just testing new...
That character is better than Diting, this is just a skill issue on your part.
graceful cradle
Clearly SSania is the difference maker seeing as this person above couldn't even do basic team comp right
left snow
That character is better than Diting, this is just a skill issue on your part.
and its not even close hilariously enough lol
errant dome
I can do It with diting, i have no problem clearing that, i was Just testing new...
your diting is max dupe, max lattice
from a utility standpoint yeli is already better
even naked
foggy reef
your diting is max dupe, max lattice
So well SSR Need to be maxed as well to beat an maxed SR understand
winged ocean
yes it needs to be invested
graceful cradle
Brain diff
cursive flicker
Nice Money and lattices Lost, 7k a hit with that stats in rengokutsu inferno gg ...
That boss is overtuned as F. There is only 1 team that kills it but even then its like 20% chance depending who gets silenced at the begining as there is no room to put resist or immunity as you already have to have perfect gear to even kill it
foggy reef
That boss is overtuned as F. There is only 1 team that kills it but even then it...
It can be done auto having 300 Speed on kloss and Lily , using diting
ruby canyon
no ones gonna disagree rengo is shit, it's a reset hell boss and it's crazy they nerfed nico who was a 30 sec clear with full SRs instead of him
twilit vault
no ones gonna disagree rengo is shit, it's a reset hell boss and it's crazy they...
sips tea & tailspins you
twilit vault
im starting to think for some ppl inferno is not the issue, it's their brain
makes sense if you have an easy solution for the bosses, dont have to engage with the mechanics as much
left snow
no ones gonna disagree rengo is shit, it's a reset hell boss and it's crazy they...
im hoping rengo nerf is soon
graceful cradle
Surely something will be soon I've never seen a gacha lose viewership on the day a new char is released
warped kestrel
makes sense if you have an easy solution for the bosses, dont have to engage wit...
One thing is to abuse LilySSania, which is fine, everyone with them should do it.
Another is to do that while coming here to tell people that they need to stop crying and suck it up, giving BS justifications like "I like hard pve content" to defend the state of 10x auto farm content. The latter are just objectively bad people trying to give others an unnecessarily hard time for personal gain. Gross.
cursive flicker
It can be done auto having 300 Speed on kloss and Lily , using diting
Yeah im doing it with about 40% clear rate but so much wasted lattice as there is nothing you can do about random silence
and i do have those stats
twilit vault
One thing is to abuse LilySSania, which is fine, everyone with them should do it...
dont have to tell me, you've consistently been one of the most reasonable people in this chat from the start in my opinion
im of the same opinion, i value player retention more than challenging pve even if i personally find overcoming the challenge satisfying
cursive flicker
makes sense if you have an easy solution for the bosses, dont have to engage wit...
yeah bad design. You avoid mechanics lol
left snow
ive been saying that they should just make farming stages easy and non farming pve hard
async echo, ethernet etc
graceful cradle
Eventually people will become apathetic and that's when the real issues begin
Cuz they won't come back afterwards
cursive flicker
Surely something will be soon I've never seen a gacha lose viewership on the day...
thats mostly because most ppl cant pull her so they dont care 😄
indigo oyster
they should nerf inferno terror even more so i can farm him
warped kestrel
I also see nothing wrong with this game having hard PvE content for those who like PvE more than PvP - but it shouldn't be in the autofarm stages. It should be on the weekly/monthly resetting modes (Ember, EtherNet, etc)
ruby canyon
async echo, ethernet etc
ye it's so weird it's the opposite rn, like those challenge modes are cleared instantly with 0 strategy and inferno requires certain units and gear/rng
graceful cradle
thats mostly because most ppl cant pull her so they dont care 😄
Game had 6.3k viewers during primetime hours two days ago and less than half that last night
indigo oyster
I also see nothing wrong with this game having hard PvE content for those who li...
this
left snow
I also see nothing wrong with this game having hard PvE content for those who li...
yeah i said the exact same thing to christian
cursive flicker
Eventually people will become apathetic and that's when the real issues begin
You cna only got 150% for so long
left snow
i hope he actually gave that feedback to devs
pure junco
One thing is to abuse LilySSania, which is fine, everyone with them should do it...
🤷♂️ Even if you say that, we know they don't like it when someone gives constructive criticism. It's okay to love something but not enable bad habits
graceful cradle
The hard pve should be in trek and rally
indigo oyster
make inferno easy, ethernet and ember trek hard
and not a RNG fest 42 and 24 is
graceful cradle
Hell even this current event running right now would be a great idea if most of the playerbase wasn't currently getting railed by rng
cursive flicker
What happend is they yanked all inferno dificulity to the moon after beta just before release w/o any testing
And now we have issues
No surprise
graceful cradle
All because a vocal few said it was too easy in beta. I bet you they aren't even still playing now
Also fun fact most people in beta never even got to Hell 4. So I'm not sure what they thought was easy lol
cursive flicker
All because a vocal few said it was too easy in beta. I bet you they aren't even...
Yup. Btw I was in beta for a long time and I was saying some stuff was to hard and they went the other wya.
pure junco
Nevermind them, are the devs even playing the game? 😅
cursive flicker
Also fun fact most people in beta never even got to Hell 4. So I'm not sure what...
True I was one of the few that was in top 10 rankings and cleared everything possible in the beta events over the course of last year
Most ppl didnt bother
graceful cradle
I'm giving it til E7 anniversary and that will decide how seriously I take this game ig. I'm cool with waiting out the people glazing the game as it is rn. They'll complain eventually when it starts to affect them too
cursive flicker
I'm giving it til E7 anniversary and that will decide how seriously I take this ...
I love the game but in few weeks people wont have that much steam to manual everything
And then will have to decide if they play or drop
Game cant take 12h/day to play
every day
all day
ruby canyon
y it's already kind of a pain to reclear ember/ether
graceful cradle
Yeah I didnt even want to do rally yesterday
cursive flicker
y it's already kind of a pain to reclear ember/ether
yeah you need some speed track there to no do the easy shit
graceful cradle
But knew if I didnt now I wouldn't want to in a week and a half
cursive flicker
Yeah I didnt even want to do rally yesterday
I done Rally to 29 on hard but need to finish it but man it will be a long road
twilit vault
skip & claim rewards up to a certain stage if you cleared Ember Trek previously would fix it
graceful cradle
Especially for some of those terribly tuned fights in rally
cursive flicker
skip & claim rewards up to a certain stage if you cleared Ember Trek previously ...
100%
ruby canyon
the rewards are insane tho.. I'm not faulting them for that.. ember trek gives literally like 100 pulls
cursive flicker
Its done in every gatcha imo
ruby canyon
it's just the gameplay loop is not rly fun
graceful cradle
Tbh nothing is very fun rn
graceful cradle
I'm literally holding on for the fun I had in past betas
twilit vault
it's just the gameplay loop is not rly fun
it's also pointless if your account is at a stage where you can sweep the normal stages, for example, effortlessly
cursive flicker
like give just rewards for normal if you already cleared normal and hard you need to do manually
twilit vault
just hand over the rewards and let the players tackle the harder stages faster
left snow
the rewards are insane tho.. I'm not faulting them for that.. ember trek gives l...
yeah lol ember trek rewards are so stacked
graceful cradle
It's kinda crazy how underwhelming Rally rewards feel in comparison
ruby canyon
i think the challenge modes were kind of a let down in terms of difficulty anyway, i did 42 in echoes/embertrek on auto.. but i know that's gna be controversial bc of dumb overtuned bosses like 27heinrich, 24hard astarte and ethernet tiamat
cursive flicker
It's kinda crazy how underwhelming Rally rewards feel in comparison
Yeah its really weird
I done rally 2x 100%
and rewards are mehh
like you bearly notice them
twilit vault
i think the challenge modes were kind of a let down in terms of difficulty anywa...
27Heinrich be like "300 speed? Those are rookie numbers"
cursive flicker
27Heinrich be like "300 speed? Those are rookie numbers"
yeah i had to go 320 before taking him down lol 😄
esp the no heal version
twilit vault
and rewards are mehh
it's nice if you luck out on the lattice boxes but otherwise a bit mid
graceful cradle
Like the lattice shards are definitely the most valuable but if people just start doing there bare min and logging til shit gets fixed you won't even notice losing 1 lattice a month
cursive flicker
it's nice if you luck out on the lattice boxes but otherwise a bit mid
yeah you always aim for lattice there
everythingelse is worthless except maybe pulls
the SR pieces are biggest scam
*sr ticket
graceful cradle
Aren't they rainbow tickets? Aka SR-SSR?
cursive flicker
Aren't they rainbow tickets? Aka SR-SSR?
i never saw SSR drop from those in a year
uncut mica
you need 50 frags per ticket
graceful cradle
Idk if I'd even consider those worth for 50 shards
cursive flicker
inc beta
graceful cradle
Yeah like lol awful
ruby canyon
well its kinda like a 10 pull on standard banner
cursive flicker
well its kinda like a 10 pull on standard banner
yeah id rather take 10 pull
than SR ticket
ruby canyon
duh
cursive flicker
any day
ruby canyon
10 pull is strictly better but i just mean it's kinda close
graceful cradle
Look we have those in E7 i enjoy my million Karins
cursive flicker
10 pull is strictly better but i just mean it's kinda close
not really but in theory in a vacum yeah
graceful cradle
Actually it's more like Zerato dupes tbh
Idk i feel like they won't act until things get really bad. After seeing those "nerfs" to the two easiest inferno fights idk man. They just feel out of touch. The only people those help is people who were just shy of killing consistently.
cursive flicker
Idk i feel like they won't act until things get really bad. After seeing those "...
100%
Everyone was surprised that fights with most problems that where unbalanced where left untouched
Then again I thin it might be lack of data on some
Like rengokutsu is a new boss
but you cant get data if everyone dies on it lol
graceful cradle
Inferno Hoyan is the easiest for me since I have Celince but I can't even touch the ones that require dot since I'm still missing Obol and Fangus
royal furnace
You only need 2
left snow
Inferno Hoyan is the easiest for me since I have Celince but I can't even touch ...
if you have celince for hoyan
nothing requires dot in shell farms
royal furnace
Ling and mia
cursive flicker
You only need 2
dpends on your investment on inferno
royal furnace
Or ling and val
left snow
niconana is doable with all sr units and free SSR
cursive flicker
Ling and mia
w/o skillups they cant
left snow
you cant even dot sharon or rengo anyway lol
graceful cradle
niconana is doable with all sr units and free SSR
Yeah the SR units are dot units lol
cursive flicker
Tbh units are meant to be skilled up
then give us lattices
left snow
Yeah the SR units are dot units lol
viper-linglou-valerian-diting can do it
cursive flicker
there are not enough for SSR
royal furnace
Ive had no problems
undone vortex
royal furnace
Ofc id like some more
left snow
i mean nico
graceful cradle
viper-linglou-valerian-diting can do it
Negative i do not have the damage to do Nico with Diting
left snow
what team
graceful cradle
Literally the team you just said
left snow
also the team i said can pretty much tank it forever
graceful cradle
Because those people already were clearing inferno modules
Most head ass help lol I swear
royal furnace
Inferno modules arent that big xD
If its not swiftraid/swiftsmite to give spd boost
left snow
idk how you cant clear it with that team, my friend has no inferno gear and can do it with that team
is your viper 1/1/1 by any chance ?
graceful cradle
Obviously fucking not
ruby canyon
i mean you could clear with obol rc77 and 2 random characters and you dont even care about spd or dispel lol nico was always the easiest
left snow
they dont have obol
graceful cradle
Inferno Hoyan is the easiest for me since I have Celince but I can't even touch ...
@ruby canyon
left snow
but i dont understand how its not winning with that team when i know 2 guys that dont have inferno gear and are farming nico with that team
ruby canyon
rin the unbowed idk i mean literally anything
graceful cradle
Clearly I can kill Hoyan but I can't kill Nico
ruby canyon
what units do you have i'll check whats possible
graceful cradle
All SRs except Fangus Obol and Yang I think
graceful cradle
Then farm more hell 4
Its not a fucking gear issue
I swear to god people don't read
I can kill Hoyan which is much harder to kill than Nico
I just cannot actually kill Nico and dont feel like wasting another 30 or so energy trying
graceful cradle
Let me run it again to tell you exactly what is killing me
It's the stuns which is what I figured it was but wasn't sure since I tried a bunch of the stuff I couldn't beat yet last night
Like I said the issue isn't gear it's just dumb rng mechanics. Cuz I know people aren't running like 2-3 Alicorn just for this. It would be easier if I could Lily Obol it
ruby canyon
I tried it no rosa/obol, one wiht lily one without, but you're not wrong its annoying af having to deal with the stuns
maybe rin the unbowed would work better cuz diting isnt blue so gets targeted like 90%
graceful cradle
I could try Cachi but yeah my issue is Diting is just stunned nonstop or dies in a def break once Val leaves Hazy
It's just crappy RNG due to me having to do comps that survive it instead of killing her in like 30 seconds
small knot
I agree with this niconana stun rng is the most stupid shit I’ve seen
I’m glad I haven’t done astarte because I know I would have uninstalled
minor rover
What's wrong? is it a problem now that it affects you? It wasn't a problem when ...
this part is super funny
graceful cradle
I tried it no rosa/obol, one wiht lily one without, but you're not wrong its ann...
Average run in a nutshell
I'll just keep farming Inferno Hoyan at least I have about an 80% clear and it's fast.
small knot
I would try a spd debuffer in place of viper but idk how well that would work
inland chasm
My problem is that you're a hypocrite who came here to defend the terrible desig...
Damn.... Go on let me get my popcorn (i know im too late ;-;)
left snow
I would try a spd debuffer in place of viper but idk how well that would work
Viper is a speed debuffer
It's also very reliable
small knot
Oh 🚶♂️ I never used viper so I wouldn’t know
That’s good to know
I kept trying to force kloss and got frustrated and went to marvel which ended up working with good rng
graceful cradle
Yeah idk i probably need a lot more speed but I'm at the mercy of rng for that
small knot
What’s your speed at
graceful juniper
I done Rally to 29 on hard but need to finish it but man it will be a long road
Green and light area are my nightmare....especially kururu
tribal osprey
I'll just keep farming Inferno Hoyan at least I have about an 80% clear and it's...
How are you clearing inferno hoyan but can’t do inferno Nico?
graceful cradle
How are you clearing inferno hoyan but can’t do inferno Nico?<:WHAA:138054429123...
Because the game doesn't have actual difficulty just bs RNG that specific characters can cheese
tribal osprey
Because the game doesn't have actual difficulty just bs RNG that specific charac...
What’s your team?
graceful cradle
And I happen to own the team that cheeses Hoyan
tribal osprey
Oh
graceful cradle
small knot
Uhh that Viper isn't very fast though like 220 ish
Maybe that needs to be faster 🧐 idk tho I used mio to just freeze the adds so they wouldn’t do anything
tribal osprey
graceful cradle
Maybe that needs to be faster 🧐 idk tho I used mio to just freeze the adds so t...
Ah I'd have to get Kraken up then
small knot
But even then my Mio doesn’t have any lattices so I basically just did a 30% rng check every time
On top of doing a 50% rng check to see if I applied the turn meter steal on s3
graceful cradle
💀
small knot
And then since I couldn’t kill it fast enough I had to manually s1 adds to freeze them when s2 was down
Which was what
25% chance
So yeah I got pretty lucky with my singular clear
small knot
Ah I'd have to get Kraken up then
Idek if that would help tbh
Mio only worked in my case because she was also a spd buffer
Kraken doesn’t do that
graceful juniper
i never saw SSR drop from those in a year
Tbh its really rng.....rainbow ticket give me lily,but yea its all luck
small knot
Tbh its really rng.....rainbow ticket give me lily,but yea its all luck
Praying on your downfall
graceful juniper
Anyway it doesnt matter...my lily doesnt have latice,lvl and shell to back it up so inferno still only a dream
warped kestrel
stable dagger
so.. how do y'all build Diting? this is the first time I'm gonna use him xD
cuz the only inferno i haven't cleared yet is Sharon
and Rengo
tribal osprey
so.. how do y'all build Diting? this is the first time I'm gonna use him xD
Just full damage keeneye or momentum if you’re using kloss
stable dagger
how much crit rate do i need on him? 150?
warped kestrel
how much crit rate do i need on him? 150?
Crit rate/crit damage ratio doesn't matter, as long as total reaches or exceeds 100, since all excess is converted to CDMG at the same rate as module(150%)
sullen kayak
these hoyan teams beating Terromaton inf are not reliable team, correct?
stable dagger
these hoyan teams beating Terromaton inf are not reliable team, correct?
yeah it's rng
sullen kayak
the boss not hitting Hoyan = gg, right?
stable dagger
yup
this is the scraps that i managed to put together his atk kinda low is he good to go for Sharon and Rengo?
sullen kayak
so now other than Dot we need 12 8 6 Diting to beat inf Terromaton?
but how can i get the inf red piece?
stable dagger
so now other than Dot we need 12 8 6 Diting to beat inf Terromaton?
nah that's just for Sharon and Rengo, cuz I'm seeing a Terror clear without inferno gears
ruby canyon
you wouldn't be able to get a 12/8/6 diting if you can't clear terror
but yeah it's very doable with 12/8
sullen kayak
I feel like 12/8 need help from Heinrich
tribal osprey
you wouldn't be able to get a 12/8/6 diting if you can't clear terror
Well you can if you can clear doki
sullen kayak
which i do not own 😦
ruby canyon
no I did it with 12/8 and holden
scarlet quartz
I feel like 12/8 need help from Heinrich
lily works too thank me later
small knot
I hate this game
scarlet quartz
very based very true
ruby canyon
i'll try to manifest one for you
scarlet quartz
lily yeli ssania who
what server / mode
ruby canyon
uhh global nico
small knot
i'll try to manifest one for you
I don’t need you to manifest me a rosa
I need you to manifest me a lily
I need the white knight starter package
small knot
Who needs functioning companies and devs when you can just pay consumers to defend you amirite
No need for a marketing team
small knot
just pull yeli and lily is useless or something like that
Ah yes
With my 0 apex prototypes
I will do that right now
scarlet quartz
just buy them and surely u have the 11 lattices in the backpocket
left snow
Manifest 80 of them
scarlet quartz
right there with the other btch that will never see use
small knot
Me when I never pulled on yeli banner
ruby canyon
i went 80 on freya 80 on holden 75 on hoyan and now 60 dry on yeli... i think im just not supposed to pull limited banners
scarlet quartz
a guildie got her in 40 pulls on permanent so u can try that stat too
I actually got hoyan from permanent
small knot
Me too
scarlet quartz
was pretty funny
small knot
I got her in 3 pity
ruby canyon
my permanent keeps dropping mio dupes
ruby canyon
i dont even use mio
small knot
Did I just reverse luck myself
small knot
i dont even use mio
I use her to make myself feel better about not having lily
small knot
Your gluttony disgusts me
inland warren
Lmao. I have 24 out of 27 ssr. I'm missing kloss and lily
small knot
Me too
inland warren
Who’s the 3rd
Borgne
inland warren
But it's funny that out of 3, i'm missing the two most broken ones
Obviously spent a shitton of money. I cant even get to the end of the pages of standard banner
ruby canyon
i got this day 1 hour 1
inland warren
I bought all packs from yeli, went to summon on ld banner trying to get lily, still got yeli
😐
small knot
LOL
inland warren
Guess i just need to get good
small knot
If you complain enough
I’m sure xd will release a lily banner
Just send them a blank check with a messge attached
Very simple 1 second clear time
I guarantee it
inland warren
I mean, if they dont release a lily banner after this one, they just dont like money
viscid shard
the boss not hitting Hoyan = gg, right?
I thought equipping a lvl 1 wristwheel will always target Hoyan, but i dont have her so cant test. Just something i heard in world chat, might just be wrong
small knot
The next banner ain’t gonna be ld
Backlash would be too much
F2P can’t afford back to back ld banners
inland warren
F2P can’t afford back to back ld banners
Bro who cares about f2p
They cant clear anyway
warped kestrel
They cant clear anyway
inland warren
Let ME spend 300$ and get that fucking lily
left snow
wait are you supposed to be able to get this title
There is 1 more version
Where you get 3 SSRs from 1 multi
It gives 1 gold lattice
warped kestrel
There's also one about getting 2 SSR Apex in a single 10x
graceful raven
releasing lily banner will make them lose money in the long run lol
small knot
They cant clear anyway
warped kestrel
graceful raven
they'd rather u try 10 other alternative units which requires you to potentially buy lattice / other packs
inland warren
I aint building alternative units
I want lily
If eventually i can clear all inferno stages without lily, why pulling for her
So they might aswell release the banner after this one
graceful raven
thats you but most people are building alternative units cuz they wanna progress
inland warren
You don’t pull lily for inferno tho
Ah... i dont?
inland warren
You pull her so you can win in rta
Who cares about rta.... i thought this was a PvE game
graceful raven
the longer you stay in the system the higher chance you'll spend for other stuff
small knot
Wait true
graceful raven
if you get what you want you'll stop spending lol
inland warren
if you get what you want you'll stop spending lol
Lily bannerless
graceful raven
when lily banner comes the game will truly be close to EoS 
small knot
warped kestrel
The final pump and dump
inland warren
Is she even in standard pull pool or is it a trap they created with cc?
inland warren
Ok makes sense
warped kestrel
Would explain why I keep getting Mio/Doki2/SSania dupes and only that
tribal osprey
Man… Heinrich is gatekeeping me from finishing yeli
warped kestrel
We're onto you, XD. Better enable that Lily on my account already.
inland warren
Same pls
left snow
You pull her so you can win in rta
What
I don't think I've seen a lily in my last 100 games lol
She is always banned
small knot
Yes
That’s why she’s so needed in rta
If she’s always banned that means lily players in turn get a free ban of their choice while being able to freely draft a comp that won’t get banned
warped kestrel
I don't think I've seen a lily in my last 100 games lol
In every PvP game any character that is a constant pick or ban in every match is a character that is clearly too strong and will eventually be nerfed.
left snow
In every PvP game any character that is a constant pick or ban in every match is...
Probably yeah
You have to pick lily yourself in pvp
Otherwise your opponent can wait and ban protect her
Then it's rough
So somebody first picks her lol
Then it's banned
warped kestrel
I first* pick Mio every game and it's a similar situation, pick or ban every game, another character that will eventually have to be looked at in PvP
But Lily is just so much more versatile in PvE
left snow
Nobody bans my mio
left snow
Yeah I'm kinda getting target banned
People are banning my tsukiyomi now
It's rough
So I have to pick lily Mio early then lily gets banned
warped kestrel
If you didn't pick Lily and instead just picked Mio, Mio would be the one to always get banned
left snow
I don't think so people would just ban dispeller then
She doesn't do anything when lily is banned since a lot of people I run into is running bullwark
I need a really fast Heinrich and Holden in my roster
So I can dispel before Mio goes
warped kestrel
Yeah Mio is easier to counter than Lily
small knot
I need a really fast Heinrich and Holden in my roster
You need a revelation freya
Who cares about bulwark
Just nuke them
main elm
As 3k$ spender I stopped buying the new packs, paying for it right now feels like I'm buying stocks to failing company
open fable
ngl tho that lattic pack is so tempting for my ocd
main elm
Which is stupid lol
open fable
i mean ima keep playing but i think ima stop paying and see how it goes since i have parasocial with my streamer
main elm
If I'm losing all my stocks so be it, at least I won't throw more stocks into a burning pile
open fable
i rather buy bitcoin
cursive flicker
As 3k$ spender I stopped buying the new packs, paying for it right now feels li...
Its not THAT bad but they have to address 2 things that are biggest issue atm. Some stages are overtuned to the moon on Inferno and there is no way to make them stable, and events are also overtuned for who knows who discouraging people. More lattice would be nice to but will see.
And im talking as someone on EU server in top 20 rankings for most pve game modes
cursive flicker
Events need to be guaranteed to be able to buy out
Some events are better than the others but biggest offender for me was the touranamnet event where you lose currency instead of gaining it lol
main elm
Its not THAT bad but they have to address 2 things that are biggest issue atm. S...
2 only?
What about the game time consumption, currency starvation and dozen more
cursive flicker
I get that they want the events to be a bit of a challange because we have rankings there and all, but they should not put best rewards where no one can get them. You can put aspirational rewards there and move top rewards to say S rank being where most ppl should get to
small knot
I’m not that worried about time consumption tbh
main elm
Inferno difficulty atm is LEAST of my concern right now 
small knot
Besides the most endgame levels of pve farming has pretty much just been log on click restart and log off
cursive flicker
2 only?
What about the game time consumption, currency starvation and dozen more
Im lv 85 now. And only spent 20$. Those 2 are a big issue to me, but they will be once one time events are over and first month is over and we want to go to maintnace mode and cant because game takes 12h/day 😄
small knot
Currency starvation is a very real and very huge problem tho
I should not run out of gold after 1 upgraded module
cursive flicker
Besides the most endgame levels of pve farming has pretty much just been log on ...
Farming yes but you sitll have ember track and rally to do 😄
and fine tuning stuff can take hours 😄
for inferno stages :d
small knot
I said besides endgame pve aka ember and ether
ruby canyon
i usually just speed tune one thing and farm that for a few days
small knot
And ig inferno is what they call endgame pve
ruby canyon
cba tradin gear around constantly
small knot
I honestly didn’t even do that much ember and ether
inland warren
Farming inferno is harder than ember trek
small knot
I can tell that I missed out on a lot but
I just wasn’t going to invest time in restarting every minute for good rng on thundermark
ruby canyon
Farming inferno is harder than ember trek
you're not wrong the only thing remotely ''difficult'' is astarte and it's just an rng check
cursive flicker
And ig inferno is what they call endgame pve
Not really. It kinda feels like that due to it being overtuned just before release after a year of tesing they decided overnight to make it 2x harder
Ember track is real endgame pve
small knot
But I can see why game time consumption would be much higher for other
cursive flicker
whilte Ether rally is easy to finish if you have right units
small knot
I got to Sharon and stopped because I never built my cachi
distant wedge
Ember track is real endgame pve
it’s not even end game, imm f2p almost clearing it all
ruby canyon
i've legit never used cachi
cursive flicker
i build mine but took me a week to slowly build new units for every stage
distant wedge
we need ember trek inferno version
cursive flicker
it’s not even end game, imm f2p almost clearing it all <:FrogCoolCry:13420898723...
not hard mode m8 😛
there is normal and hard mode version 😄
distant wedge
10x harder, units have 90% chance to get stunned
cursive flicker
yeah 😛 so not easy 😄
distant wedge
i believe in “all so easy after astarte”
cursive flicker
AStarte is just overtuned and rng
distant wedge
30% = 100%
ruby canyon
yea if you don't have effres it's 60%
and then you can get 2 spawns which stun individually
i hope we get a better affix
cursive flicker
i hope we get a better affix
100%
thats why its rng as fuck
till you get lucky
inland warren
Hard mode astarte is impossible to survive her first skill
It's insane how much damage it does lmao
Im surprised people cleared it
main elm
The biggest 2 problems this game has are 2:
1- time consuming
2- currency starvation
Yes there are LOT of other problems that needs attention which is inferno, specific SSR reliance, shit mechanics like the 30% stun fuckery on Ember Trek boss, GW defense having massively huge advantage and lot lot lot more
But these 2 big issues are sensitive coz ppl already quitting coz of it, so they need the MOST attention right now, if u fix them, then ppl will spend time less with more currency > build more and better units > content gets slightly easier + they don't quit coz game take hours daily will burn u out faster than a twig
cursive flicker
The biggest 2 problems this game has are 2:
1- time consuming
2- currency star...
If you dont max buy stamina or have to much time or work from home then yeah thats a big issue for most normal people.
main elm
I've been scrutinizing the game problems trust me, these 2 are by far the biggest
pearl knot
The biggest 2 problems this game has are 2:
1- time consuming
2- currency star...
game takes way to fucking long
need to be able to spend more than 10stam at a time
main elm
Inferno difficulty is just the outcome of not being able to progress fast enough coz I don't have currency to build more and better units
distant wedge
The biggest 2 problems this game has are 2:
1- time consuming
2- currency star...
this type of game wants ur time tho
nothing can do
main elm
Are u one of those trolls if u don't like it then quit bro ?
pearl knot
the problem is the fucking farming takes forever
main elm
Reason I'm speaking it is I like the game and wanted it to succeed, therefore I'm criticizing the bad parts of it
pearl knot
you can q the pvp as many times as you want if you want to sink more time
distant wedge
they might add sweep like dislyte later on
small knot
There’s no need
The game lets you close the app and still run your auto battles
Why would it add sweep
ruby canyon
eh it's just a little different than most cause even f2p you get like 1k stam a day
small knot
Unless you’re doing ether or ember every day there should really be no reason to sink 12 hours a day into the game
ruby canyon
every event and endgame mode randomly gives stam
main elm
https://www.reddit.com/r/Etheria_Official/s/TZG32hWhOw
This vid proves that inferno difficulty can be mitigated with better and easier progression.
Better gear + better units
But we can't have that coz of currency starvation so ppl take shortcuts by using OP units like Lily to brute force lot of contents
Now imagine this team with better gear
They'll steamroll Doki inferno
It's all progression issue, it's takes too much time and too slow gear and invest on units
distant wedge
well i think they r starting to retune the inferno bosses 1 by 1
main elm
They treating the symptoms not the disease imo, yes it helps the patient coz it'll feel better, but the illness still there
distant wedge
yeah
ruby canyon
its funny that they named a faction in game this
ruby canyon
they knew
small knot
well i think they r starting to retune the inferno bosses 1 by 1
Would be good to know if they really are
distant wedge
next probably doki and sharon
main elm
Main content in this PvP game SHOULD BE .... RTA
But how many of u not giving a shit about RTA coz ur time is spent elsewhere more important, which is farming and using ur stamina + doing the god awful rally bullshit and few Ember Trek stages everyday
warped kestrel
this type of game wants ur time tho
They don't, as evidenced by the fact that it made it possible to even close the game while your 10x auto battle is running. They don't want your time, the dev that balanced Inferno stages is just bad at his job and lost sight of what this game was supposed to be.
small knot
Honestly I don’t think doki is getting nerfs
distant wedge
They don't, as evidenced by the fact that it made it possible to even close the ...
right yeah, inferno is….. so fking overtuned
shells
modules
distant wedge
Honestly I don’t think doki is getting nerfs
it’s very unstable tho
mfs has like 500% ER
main elm
Doki is the worst of the 3 imo, way too RNG and takes lot of time
ruby canyon
surely gear drop rates are the biggest problem
small knot
It’s still much easier compared to aurora and rengoku
ruby canyon
i understand substats but i cant get a furyedge piece with the right mainstat after 5k stam really?
main elm
Rengo is different story lol
distant wedge
maybe they could add inferno 2 and 3, in i3 no 2* matrix modules..
open fable
im stuck at aurora and rengoku inferno
i know the problem but i just dont want to do it
lattice my linglou
for aurora
kewk
main elm
Aurora more consistent, but need higher gear requirements and just as long as Doki clear or more depends on ur DPS
distant wedge
since inferno stages has unique piece, maybe it should have increased drop rate among others?
ruby canyon
its just dumb to auto, if you ever miss strip it's a wipe, and its min 10% to miss
open fable
@main elm nah doki inferno is like 40 sec with s3 lvl 5 rimo tho you also need mio for that
distant wedge
its just dumb to auto, if you ever miss strip it's a wipe, and its min 10% to mi...
we ll probably get unit that does def down(cant be resisted)
ruby canyon
holden kindaa does that cause 2 hits, so 99% success, but it's hard to get 100% crit and enough effhit
main elm
Issue with investing on Mocha, I recalled her coz I can't have a well invested DPS to be used in 1 dungeon
small knot
This
distant wedge
<@228545664609550337> nah doki inferno is like 40 sec with s3 lvl 5 rimo tho you...
do we have ratgirl minimum stats req to 1 shot wave 1 and 2?
small knot
I invested in rilmocha cus everybody was like get her to farm inferno doki during 2x
distant wedge
imagine having rosa
open fable
do we have ratgirl minimum stats req to 1 shot wave 1 and 2?
Momentum Fury 3k atk 300cdmg with atk buff
same set 3k atk 350ish cdmg with atk and crit buff
small knot
But then I just didn’t get the dps to clear aurora or terror and I ended up having no endgame gear for rilmocha
distant wedge
you dont 1shot the middle mob
like never ever?
open fable
i think its like 200-250khp
distant wedge
well, as long as i can 1 shot the others
distant wedge
Momentum Fury 3k atk 300cdmg with atk buff
same set 3k atk 350ish cdmg with atk ...
thanks, we use count on ratgirl yes?
main elm
Know this, whoever have rilmocha well invested to clear doki quick with lot of RNG ofc coz u miss a debuff ur run is forfeit.
He is behind in other content, coz he could have investment on a DPS that can be used in lot more content
open fable
yes
open fable
Know this, whoever have rilmocha well invested to clear doki quick with lot of R...
tru even with 240 eff sometimes its a miss but its like 80% wr with 40 sec so ill take it
warped kestrel
CM said that the devs said that the 1 stam thing is not negotiable, it'll stay
distant wedge
need unit with debuffs that cant be resisted
small knot
Or just high hits with less rng
open fable
nah they will just release a cc unit with more hits
warped kestrel
All these types of games have that natural usually 15% chance of any debuff missing no matter your accuracy, but normally it doesn't matter because the content isn't so batshit hard that missing a debuff isn't that important, as things don't just ramp up out of control or oneshot you randomly
open fable
then we will have revelation abuse
small knot
If I had a unit hit 3 times with 100% chance it would be a lot better than missing a debuff from Kazuyo who’s like 40% on 3 hits
open fable
next ld unit a sleep ccer with 4-5hits at 40% chance
ruby canyon
3 hits 40% is already super consistent
small knot
open fable
i know
tribal sluice
Ember trek needa delete the mob and chest stages and just toss all the loot into boss stage 💀 so useless and waste of time
arctic plover
Flamel doesn't forget, Flamel sees all 🫡
Year 2120. At the funeral, an old man steps up to deliver the eulogy.
"Guess Shadow Sania won't be helping you with this inferno, will she?"
coarse granite
💀
warped kestrel
frank flame
Why my Dark Moon on Kloss always apply it's debuff on left Terramoton hand?
marsh topaz
because he has higher atk
frank flame
but why on replays of other players it attacks Terramoton then
cursive flicker
Seriously astarte hard is why most people will quit this game. Is so fucking rng and buggy i dont even know where to begin :/
You just have to keep trying hundreths of times till your rng gets lucky and something dont bugs out
main elm
but unfortunetly Kloros with 0 skill ups does more than her on bosses..., against Sharon even so he isn't even benefitting from momentum
main elm
Highest I saw is 7 so far
her damage still kinda sus tho
open fable
doesnt battle will not proc?
main elm
I thought with the potential of insane S1s bombardment she'll be broken in PvE but she isn't hitting that mark idk, maybe she snowball harder than most DPS ? full skill up will make her truely shine
main elm
how would ppl know if battlewill is proccing or no
left snow
She is the best PvE DPS and it's not close
left snow
how would ppl know if battlewill is proccing or no
She only Fuas on crit
If she Fuas outside of crit hit it would work
But pretty sure it doesn't work unless you have a recording of her fuaing without crit
orchid jackal
She's 5* with 0 skill ups, any dps is garbage on those conditions tbh
left snow
My cap sensors are tingling
main elm
ok so, where is the reason of Battlewill not working on her
S1 is technically an attack skill
so is S3
I'm confused
left snow
Technically she is using her passive skills proc on her S2 when fuaing
I don't think it actually works due to that
If you ever Fua when she doesn't crit that would be a clear indicator battle will working
Should be easy to test
main elm
she is very similar to Rosa, and battlewill works on her
left snow
Just remove her crit gear and see if she ever fuas
left snow
she is very similar to Rosa, and battlewill works on her
Just test should be pretty straightforward
Shouldn't take longer than 5 minute
main elm
if only there is dummy practice
small knot
Battlewill has no synergy with her passive tho afaik
orchid jackal
she is very similar to Rosa, and battlewill works on her
Does she deal 12 hits when it procs?
small knot
Idk 20% for 1 s1 doesn’t seem to be the difference maker for yeli
main elm
9
main elm
she never does 9 without battlewill
small knot
Never is a crazy statement
main elm
main elm
Dude just test it would take 5 minutes
what content, give me a content where I can run her naked to test
where she actually can take a turn without dying
cursive flicker
the worst part is once you get to adds phase in astarte you just get perma stunned by them even with immunity which is weird as fuck only on hard astarte tho
left snow
what content, give me a content where I can run her naked to test
Story
orchid jackal
the worst part is once you get to adds phase in astarte you just get perma stunn...
Immunity works tho o.o
oh sorry, didnt read the last bit
havent done hard yet
left snow
Only have yeli in the team go full tank gear + battlewill
Non upgraded gear battlewill so she doesn't deal damage
Use like wellspring + battlewill
cursive flicker
Immunity works tho o.o
oh sorry, didnt read the last bit
havent done hard yet
normal is easy, i can do it on auto
Hard is buggy as F like my llly is 320 and half the time boss and adds go first for no reason lol
and thats just one of the bugs
once boss vanished
lol
Trying her like 4h and im about to give up you are basically at the mercy of rng
I know its not gear as i can hardly get much better
same with upgrades
and i know this composition works as most ppl cleared wit it
cursive flicker
20% crit rate and she has 100% crit chance
logic 😄
small knot
Just a recipe for disaster
main elm
I recorded it
ancient lava
battlewill does work on yeli 
left snow
Can we get a video
main elm
It's an active S1, lets see if it works on her non-crit passive
ancient lava
but it can only proc once per turn not infinitely for example if u hit 3 times with her s1 due to passive every shot has 20% to be battlewill shot extra , as in case of missing 1st hit of battlewill procking 2nd shot will have 20% etc.
main elm
video long I'll cut the the moment where she does it
cursive flicker
ok i give up. This is not tactical boss fight its RNG simulator application. If i spend anymore time trying it I will quit this game. Astarte Hard NEEDS to be tuned esp the ADDS phase where you get perma stunned
and on hard adds are to hard to snipe them
and with CC you wont survice first phase
so...
main elm
ok battlewill ALSO worked on her passive
I knew this WHOLE SHIT was "my source was that I made the FUCK UP" kind of moment of battlewill not working on her
young tree
does battlewill or lily trigger this on khloros?
main elm
small knot
ok battlewill ALSO worked on her passive
Does battlewill have an icon or message that pops up when it procs
main elm
no, but she didn't crit, and she followed up on that white damage
I'll post the clip soon
lemme cut
battlewill worked on her S1 skill activation ( non-crit )
and it worked on a passive follow up ( non-crit )
I just don't know who is the asshole who sold the idea of battlewill doesn't work on her lol
main elm
Does battlewill have an icon or message that pops up when it procs
@small knot @left snow worked on a passive non-crit, here is the reciept
I'll post the S1 non-crit follow up clip aswell
storm wagon
<@443221014797877269> <@271285088367411204> worked on a passive non-crit, here i...
Why she hits like a wet noddles
small knot
<@443221014797877269> <@271285088367411204> worked on a passive non-crit, here i...
I don’t get what that had to do with my question
But slay ig
main elm
S1 no crit follow up
main elm
I don’t get what that had to do with my question
turn out it does
ancient lava
Alr was confirmed yday that battlewill works tho
main elm
not ur question
ancient lava
But u are capped to procing it once
main elm
ur statement
small knot
The image you showed isn’t even a question
And I still don’t see how battlewill procs from her passive
main elm
I'm just showing that it works unlike what u both stated
main elm
<@443221014797877269> <@271285088367411204> worked on a passive non-crit, here i...
did u see this vid ? it LITERALLY procced from a passive follow up...
since it didn't crit
S1 did crit, so her passive procced into a non-crit, then battlewill followed up on that non-crit passive proc
left snow
S1 no crit follow up
Cool
small knot
I was wrong
small knot
But u are capped to procing it once
But if this is right it still doesn’t mean it’s worth that much imo
She’s more likely to proc battlewill than any other character in the game which is cool but
main elm
if it proc once it'll give more chances for a follow up from her passive
it's will act as a bridge
main elm
yes since it's a battlewill proc then it won't consume the % chance reduction
or maybe, idk
small knot
As someone who doesn’t seem to be getting yeli anytime soon I’m just gonna go back to P5X and wait for whales to figure the secret tech
main elm
but lets not assume shit that we randomly here and tell all ppl that's my source is that I made the fuck up 
left snow
I'll do the math on how many procs it needs to be competitive with fury
main elm
I'll do the math on how many procs it needs to be competitive with fury
bit hard coz it works on a passive follow up
if this game has actually a target dummy practice then we can see in a 5min window auto DPS
small knot
Wait that’s genius
Union boss has no stamina cost
Unlimited tries
Basically infinite hp
misty mantle
Sharon Inferno is funny. How are you supposed to farm this other than praying to RNGesus? It's double RNGesus. You getting some timeweave procs and Sharon's plants not removing your buffs. What's the gameplay here?
main elm
also hard, coz u need a full setup, it's subjected to alot of RNG
but it will work if u do like 10 entries vs 10 entries
left snow
Yeah do it like that
main elm
sry not me
left snow
I don't have battlewill for yeli
main elm
I'd take a 10min test but not 1 business day test
small knot
I don’t have yeli
left snow
I'd take a 10min test but not 1 business day test
Could just leave it on auto come back and take a screenshot of how long it took per entry
20 screenshot at the end
Wait actually I have battlewill gear
I can test it
brave heath
S1 no crit follow up
s1 hits, no crit, battlewill procs, crits, passive doesnt followup
battlewill just seems low value there? lol
if battlewill s1s also procced passive after and you could chain a lot of hits, ye it'd be cool but that looks kinda worthless
open fable
man i guess i need to change holden fking hell deadweight
brave heath
so that guy saying it has no synergy, is correct lol
tiny sage
brave heath
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cmon man people did this at level 53 easily just look at the other requirements
open fable
are you going to manual
open fable
we same boat
tiny sage
Will let you know how it goes.
open fable
what grinds me is this
tiny sage
I love her
open fable
the farm 3 collosus matrix
tiny sage
left snow
s1 hits, no crit, battlewill procs, crits, passive doesnt followup
Wait it doesn't ?
main elm
if battlewill s1s also procced passive after and you could chain a lot of hits, ...
it did proc on a passive dude, both on S1 and passive, I posted 2 videos
open fable
it did proc on a passive dude, both on S1 and passive, I posted 2 videos
so consensus is battlewill then?
brave heath
it did proc on a passive dude, both on S1 and passive, I posted 2 videos
that isnt what its showing, you crit and the passive follows up, which procs a battlewill
theres a big difference between the 2
main elm
did u see both videos ?
brave heath
yes
i saw the 1st and second
first is non crit, proccing battlewill, and critting, which if they synergized, would proc her passive
but that doesnt happen
main elm
I'm sorry then, u need to watch again and figure it out, I'm done explaining this battlewill not working propaganda
brave heath
and then 1st one is just showing her passive can proc battlewill (probably) which is like
not terrible but really not that crazy
IF battlewill procs themselves procced passives tho, it would be a lot stronger and actually synergize
reread what i typed and maybe you will understand better lol
And this assumes her passive is even the thing proccing battlewill, you'd have to test like 100x and with 100% crit to see if the passive is proccing battlewill, which would mean it would have to be substantially more often that you'd get more than 20% chance to proc battlewill
main elm
posted 2 videos, 1 shows that it works on S1 non crit, other one shows it worked on a follow up passive that didn't crit, any info outside of that I don't know
idk if battlewill is best 8/8 set, idk if battlewill procs a passive, idk if I'll continue to have my sanity when I keep talking about this subject
brave heath
which would be kinda annoying to test
left snow
His S2 isn't maxed, could be just getting unlucky
brave heath
battlewill in neither of those, shows that it procs passive
thats what im telling you
left snow
He only has 60% chance to fua
thin crystal
Deserved. Keep defending bad game design.
Hahahha clown behavior
brave heath
you landed a s1, that didnt crit, and it procced a crit follow up from battle will, correct? and then it didnt follow up with her passive
left snow
His S2 isn't maxed, could be just getting unlucky
This
brave heath
if you aren't skilled up, sure it might still be rng that it didnt, but until you have that happen and it DOES follow up its not working
brave heath
ye, it might work but those videos dont show any actual synergy
its just showing how battlewill works 🤣
left snow
I still couldn't watch the video doesn't load on phone for me lol
I'm just helpless trusting somebody else's word lmao
brave heath
ye if it does end up working, idk if it'd be crazy really but it would be really funny
to just proc like 7 s1s in a row on somebody
left snow
If it doesn't proc it is way worse than fury
brave heath
if how it worked was like, any follow up actually counts as for sure proccing battlewill, and it wasnt the initial hit, aswell as the battlewill could proc passive
it would probably be better than fury
but its unlikely both of those are true
thin crystal
So we want rengo nerf now guys?
left snow
I mean wording suggests it shouldn't that's why I said it doesn't work earlier
Since her fua is not an attack skill but comes from her S2 which is a passive skill
brave heath
ye i assume it doesnt, and the 2 videos he posted, do not contradict that assumption
tiny sage
So we want rengo nerf now guys?
Nerf all inferno
tribal osprey
I am just praying the yeli assist interaction is a bug🙏 🥹 we gotta keep Etheria: ReLily alive
left snow
So logically it shouldn't trigger
brave heath
and if anything they should (albeit skillup rng) show that it doesnt work that way
thin crystal
Nerf all inferno
Even niconana and terror?
tiny sage
Yep
tiny sage
Hit em again
open fable
i rem people used red chiaki to clear
ancient lava
But if this is right it still doesn’t mean it’s worth that much imo
u tell me whats more worth doing extra tick of 40k or boosting the 40k by 10% 3 times
small knot
u tell me whats more worth doing extra tick of 40k or boosting the 40k by 10% 3 ...
Ok sure for pve but what about pvp
small knot
Looks like she will need two different builds then
ancient lava
tbh no set boosts revelation dmg all
small knot
u tell me whats more worth doing extra tick of 40k or boosting the 40k by 10% 3 ...
Idk the math here seems to work in battle wills favor no?
open fable
@tiny sage the 1st person that cleared it
ancient lava
all 8p sets u can run for pvp will end up same dmg on revelation more or less only difference is how hard s3 will hit
open fable
?
i mean
the first first guy that ever cleared inferno sharon
before cachi caught on
ancient lava
first ever inferno sharon clear was done by 5/5/5 red chiaki, 5/5/5 doki , 4/5/5 echo and 5/5/5 diting
ancient lava
he just brute forced it
small knot
It’s 2 am I’ll wake up when you guys figure out what to do with yeli
open fable
oh 5/5/5 doki