inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[tiny sage]

Like

[scarlet quartz]

good take, lets not talk anymore

u are not a crazy person

[tiny sage]

not if you supported the game with a rebate....

[tall flame]

"you should be guaranteed a Lily" is a CRAZY take

[left snow]

ngl i disagree with the notion that you need lily for hell 4

[tall flame]

bro what

[tiny sage]

[marsh topaz]

nah i lowkey can't clear terror without lily. i wouldn't have been able to clear doki neither if it wasn't for lily, which made terror accesible in the first place.

[tribal osprey]

Volkin rn:

[craggy gale]

Everyone knew rebate means no reroll and that’s why I didn’t rebate either.

[scarlet quartz]

no lily no khloros diting how do u clear inferno

terror*

not inferno

[left snow]

artisan mia team

[tiny sage]

Kewl so filter more whales

W Take

[left snow]

only SSR is mia btw

[tiny sage]

[scarlet quartz]

another SSR

[green spear]

you dont need her for hell 4 but you also cant just use whatever you want most comps are some combo of diting, khloros, lily, beyotin

[tall flame]

you don't need it for hell IV, but for inferno having a Lily means you have to invest 16 less perfect lattices and invest infinitely less into gear and shells to clear inferno

[scarlet quartz]

then u have to spend all your SSR lattices

on cachi the cumguzzler

and gang

[tall flame]

she does the job of like 3 characters in one

[left snow]

nope not needed

for terror at least

[scarlet quartz]

one S too many

[tall flame]

meawhile they decided to make Lily the 2nd fastest unit in the game

[craggy gale]

That’s what the devs chose so I don’t know what you want me to say….

[tall flame]

with THAT kit

[scarlet quartz]

dont support stupid decision

[tribal osprey]

Whales don't even reroll wdym

[scarlet quartz]

easy enough

[marsh topaz]

bruh how do u even clear any content without cachi + lily + diting + khloros + gang or whatever

[tiny sage]

[marsh topaz]

who r u using lmao

[scarlet quartz]

xd will NOT let u hit

[strong ferry]

lily no restart is cool & all but did u guys hear of endfield?

[tiny sage]

Yeah I love Satisfactory

[tribal osprey]

Who is endfield

[left snow]

tank down team on terror only requires mia as SSR and rest can be SR's

albeit it is like a 5 minute clear

🤣

[craggy gale]

If you don’t got diting, Kloros or Lily and you want to clear Terra at that point just reroll. It takes 15 min…less if you’re efficient.

[pure junco]

You're an Arknights Priest or something? 🤣

[marsh topaz]

have fun with that. it's not viable lol

not even inferno, 5 mins for hell difficulty

[left snow]

no i meant 5 minute for inferno

[craggy gale]

They don’t because they don’t need to. What’s your point?

[marsh topaz]

oh

[left snow]

dont think anybody tried it for hell

[marsh topaz]

that makes it 5% better ig lol

[scarlet quartz]

people went into this game with the expectation that lian is enough (she was) now she doesnt work at all anymore and people have invested alot of time into their accounts

people will quit before they reroll

[green spear]

ok so the assumption is to have a specific ssr

[scarlet quartz]

it's disgusting and predatory

[tribal osprey]

There are whales with no lily since you cannot guarantee her

[clear gulch]

the resources and reevaluation to a roster (imagine as a f2p player lol) to bring up for compensating Lily and/or Ssani is so unbelievable atrocious. Everytime I see a Lily player say something like "oh yea there are other options aswell just build niche sr char xyz LOL" im smh, are their brains cooked?

[left snow]

i would assume a lot faster since you wouldnt need as much survivability

and can go in with 1 less sustain and 1 more buffer/damage

[craggy gale]

Yes I agree with you….whats your point?

[left snow]

but could be wrong

[tiny sage]

[craggy gale]

Got 3 guild mates quitting yesterday

[left snow]

never actually tried it on hell

[scarlet quartz]

dont flame people for getting stuck at hell when the game is at fault

not them

[craggy gale]

Yes it is lmao

[marsh topaz]

sue the company lmao

[green spear]

bro is bipolar i swear

[craggy gale]

Hell 4 is easy compared to inferno which is the issue

[scarlet quartz]

way to backpaddle

[green spear]

but its not easy without specific units

[tiny sage]

Inferno Has BRainrotted people.

[green spear]

ffs

[tiny sage]

[craggy gale]

I agreed the difficulty is hard but I meant for inferno not he’ll 4

[craggy gale]

You can clear f2p

[tall flame]

inferno beta was probably easier than hell IV launch

change my mind

[craggy gale]

I agree

[tiny sage]

Hell 3 launch

[green spear]

well thats obviously not the case lol

[tiny sage]

When they added the Low Investment Cucking Mechanics.

[left snow]

i can cook a team for you if you want

[green spear]

you CAN clear if you have specific units

[left snow]

for hell 4 terror or inferno

what do you have

[green spear]

ight ill post my units and u cook

[tribal osprey]

In 48 hours, yeli

[tall flame]

just the fact that they nerfed pushback in hell fights makes them SO much harder

[green spear]

i just want hell 4 team for terror and aurora

[left snow]

🤣

[green spear]

so i can actually get gear

[craggy gale]

They gave you a selector. All you had to do is reroll Lily. It’s not rocket science the issue is inferno which is still insane with Lily or any selector units.

[left snow]

oh aurora is very simple

[scarlet quartz]

they went straight to 40% AND nerfed marvell

[left snow]

viper-linglou makes it very easy

[tall flame]

it really, really hurt the progression cycle

[tiny sage]

@tall flame Let me change your mind. Hell 3 Live is Equal to Inferno Beta.

[green spear]

ur retarted lol ur only answer is reroll lily

[orchid needle]

Will lian be usable for inferno terror after the nerfs

[left snow]

i would highly recommend you to raise viper for aurora and pvp later on @green spear

[tall flame]

ok I can agree with that

[tiny sage]

@orchid needle nope

[tall flame]

that's probably more accurate than hell IV beta

[orchid needle]

[green spear]

I've thought about but i already have hein 6* so figured it might be a waste

[tribal osprey]

We just need to see where the Lian falloff is

[graceful juniper]

you mean if they keep beta difficulty i can already clear inferno rn? 😮‍💨

[left snow]

nope viper is better for aurora unless you have goated gear

[ornate moth]

yup. Team will be: Lian, Holden, Valerian, Lily, Shadow Sania

[left snow]

also viper and hein has different dispell uses in pvp

[craggy gale]

Nah you are. You’re saying what if you don’t have Kloros or diting or Lily. There’s a selector which you can choose Kloros….are you slow? It’s garanteed so how do you not have an option. Chances of having Diting is way higher than not after 400 pulls.

[left snow]

hein tends to be used in more cleave/speed comps

viper is more for tank down teams or anti cleave teams

so having both raised is definitely great

[tribal osprey]

Kloss?

[left snow]

also viper makes ember trek 42 easy as well

if you are struggling there

[main elm]

Klorox

[graceful juniper]

nah kloss is a bait....there is more important unit to get

[craggy gale]

Use the red chick

[orchid needle]

Cachi the guard was the answer to 42 for me

[tiny sage]

They gave you a selector and Nerfed 1 unit(Veronika) who could help you survive vs terror and Indirectly nerfed DoT(So People were scared to Pick Celinc)

[left snow]

that also works yeah

[tiny sage]

[tribal osprey]

Nah the red chick ain't cutting it rn

[green spear]

i used my selector for rilmocha using the selector as a reason is stupid as there is multiple ssrs that help your account

[main elm]

[tall flame]

I went and found a screenshot I took from beta of my initial hell characters for beta....

you could literally get by with scraps in beta

for lower hell clears

[ornate moth]

I selectored kloss because she's my favorite character. Shrimple really

[left snow]

im hoping you can do inferno doki reliably with that selector ?

otherwise its kinda sad selector

[green spear]

these are my units

[tiny sage]

Also they upped the speed so stripping and speed tuning is also a nightmare. OH I need my Dispeller faster then my Lily who I need to be faster then the boss

[craggy gale]

I waited a 2 weeks to choose selector. Making sure not to dupe.

[graceful juniper]

i mean its fine really if you already have your important dps secured...but if you shrimp then complain about not getting RGB unit then its another matter lol

[green spear]

good for you

[tiny sage]

I would have waiting 2 weeks too but I was about to unlock inferno Terror and needed Veronika to prog.

[orchid needle]

Raise viper and cachiTG asap

[tiny sage]

Then she got killed

[left snow]

viper-linglou-massiah/diting-valerian-flex should work for aurora

[tiny sage]

[craggy gale]

For hell 4 she is. That’s what I used…. Her, Freya, Diting, Val, Lily or Chiaki or any speed boosters unit. Cachi works great too.

[main elm]

Hey guys remember when ppl recommended to invest on gray, good old times when the game was on Alpha, now we in beta and he is dogwater.

Can't wait for this game release.

[tiny sage]

[green spear]

I see I'll look into viper then

[craggy gale]

He’s still pretty good. I see a lot of people use for Doki

Which I’m surprised

[main elm]

Being a sub def breaker in 1 content doesn't mean good

[orchid needle]

CR buff and def down on 3 turn cd is pretty nice

[left snow]

viper also allows you to clear nico inferno reliably

without ssania teams

[orchid needle]

Though yeli is about to powercreep him

[left snow]

just a good raise in general

[split halo]

Wait was kloss a L ?

[green spear]

whats his investment requirements?

[orchid needle]

No kloss is good

[main elm]

Damn, this chat turned to viper stock market

[left snow]

i am not actually sure about that, mine is maxed and i never bothered to test when he wasnt maxed lol

[ornate moth]

s3 lv 5, more helps but not 100% req I'd say

[clear gulch]

Kloss is the fastest unit in the game lol

[split halo]

Someone said she a bait

[left snow]

bruh really

[main elm]

Probably the same ppl who said Heinrich is OP

[left snow]

who would call kloss bait

[green spear]

[main elm]

[ornate moth]

ppl say things all the time doesn't mean it's worth taking seriously lol

[orchid needle]

Heinrich is great if you arent struggling with living

[split halo]

[left snow]

also good in pvp

[tribal osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/people-die-if-they-are-gif-20318194

[left snow]

picking heinrich in ban lock slot can be huge vs certain team comps people play

[main elm]

Viper > Heinrich
Both in PvP and PvE

[orchid needle]

Problem is most of these end game modes have bosses ccing you or one shooting you that you need to run defensive utility both buffing and debuffing to barely survive

And Heinrich has no defensive utility side from block

[left snow]

their dispels provide different utility in pvp

[clear gulch]

different use cases

[left snow]

one of them is more of anti cleave, the other one helps cc/cleaving

you wont be picking viper over heinrich vs a tank down team

[split halo]

I wanna build Heinrich but seems like viper is better and kloss

[ornate moth]

what shell do ppl use on heinrich in high ranks

[main elm]

Just be the better tank team

[orchid needle]

Pretty much yeah

[left snow]

i use law of silence

allows me to go giga speed on him + eff acc and stilll get some ATK to deal damage

[orchid needle]

Funny enough Dina does a better job as a damage amplifier than heinrich

[ornate moth]

dinah does a better job as damage amplifier than every unit not named dinah lol

[split halo]

My Heinrich does 7k by himself

[orchid needle]

I just think he has an identity crisis in his kit of wanting to be a debuffer but also a dps/subdps

He's like the messiah of debuffer/subdps

Good at both but not great, and you need units that are great at either or for later on

[left snow]

i think you guys just havent faced a team in pvp yet where you really would have wished you had heinrich

[orchid needle]

Oh im talking purely pve

[left snow]

oh

[orchid needle]

In pvp hes for sure a menace

[carmine palm]

this game has pvp?

[left snow]

sorry my bad then lol

[orchid needle]

Bro we're still struggling with pve pvp is an afterthought 😭

[split halo]

PvP? How to PvP

[ornate moth]

I can def see heinrich being rly good in PVP. But in PVE it seems like viper and holden are BOTH preferable usually

[left snow]

the original comment was slandering heinrich in pvp so i assumed it was pvp lol my bad

[clear gulch]

giga speed heinrich into bullwark teams 🥒

[split halo]

I’m trying to do pve lol

[left snow]

oh yeah definitely

[orchid needle]

Oh I didnt read the pvp part

[left snow]

i agree i wouldnt pick heinrich over viper or holden in pve

[orchid needle]

[carmine palm]

holden -100% s2 so satisfying

[left snow]

100%

[orchid needle]

Chisa in pfp but not in wuwa discord

[clear gulch]

1 gacha server is enough

[main elm]

The only PvP this game have is when 2 thoughts in ur head going against each other on which piece you should be upgrading, has same impact as where should I be travelling this summer, coz currency u get is retardedly low

[orchid needle]

[ornate moth]

imagine traveling back in time and telling a beta player that on launch vice and cachi the guard would have higher stonks than heinrich for PVE progression

[split halo]

Does he need max skill ups

[left snow]

lmfao true

[split halo]

Viper

[left snow]

cachi used to be so underrated

[orchid needle]

Vice being good is the biggest wtf for me

[ornate moth]

I think he is approaching rated status

yeah nvm I agree after edit lol

[orchid needle]

Just s3

[main elm]

Literally all units higher stonk than Heinrich for PvE progrssion

[split halo]

Vice sounds like a victor situation

[ornate moth]

tsutomo?

[orchid needle]

He has self sustain, taunt, atk down and turn meter push

[split halo]

Viper or vice?

[orchid needle]

Vice

[left snow]

how about asshu in ethernet

[orchid needle]

Ppl use him for inferno niconana clears as well as some embertrek, anisync, and rally

[left snow]

thanks to a certain smart individual @ruby canyon

[orchid needle]

Never used asshu

[left snow]

i recognized his true potential

of being used in 1 fight and never using him again

[orchid needle]

What does he do?

[left snow]

green unit that has dot in s2

so if you dont have mass & mocha

in ethernet sharon fight he can be used

[orchid needle]

[left snow]

doki shadow walker and sustain with him can help people clear that part of ethernet

for those who dont have mocha/massiah

[pure junco]

Lol the thread calmed down for once

[glass ruin]

why does inferno aurora first time completion reward evolguard

[left snow]

so tank players can abuse it harder

jk

[glass ruin]

evolguard drops from doki and they reward it here

weird

is this a 12 speed piece

[left snow]

lets go

[glass ruin]

lmao

[errant mountain]

lmao

10% defense

should be at least 15-20% def be fr man 😭

[left snow]

tbh its purple

[glass ruin]

1 roll is 2.5%?

[left snow]

hm that does sound low

🤷‍♂️

[glass ruin]

yeah i was 3% def at the start

this was 3 rolls into def

[ruby canyon]

vice is the goat (last ethernet boss)

idk why you're forced to face her with red team only btw it's weird

can't even pick blue/green

[marsh topaz]

geez not this ugly dude again

[ruby canyon]

put some respect on vice he got me through all challenge modes (not phantom)

[marsh topaz]

god damn

do i really need this dude

he's cheap ig

[ruby canyon]

he's just a taunt bot

but yea, he, rc-77, obol are secret goats

[marsh topaz]

man i hate all of those units

[glass ruin]

bro u should see him use his aoe skill on astarte stage 2 from 1 hp

[left snow]

i think obol got popular at this point

[glass ruin]

he just goes to full hp

[left snow]

been seeing a lot of him in pve

[marsh topaz]

especially rc 77 guy looks like a fucking sponge

[graceful juniper]

obol only make sense if you have ssania

[ruby canyon]

ya maybe

obol lily clears everything not immune to dots tbh

[marsh topaz]

does fangus also do that

[glass ruin]

too many good sr units in this game.. no purple lattice

[marsh topaz]

cuz i built that fker and i hate him to death

[ruby canyon]

and for dot immune you use rosa rc-77 and perma push back they never get a turn

[ruby canyon]

ya but fangus needs lattices more

at 1/1/1 he does actually nothing

[marsh topaz]

i put 8 into him

1 2 max

[ruby canyon]

then you're good

[marsh topaz]

i'm not putting any more until they announce a reset event

[marsh topaz]

he aint clearing jack dude

i built him for nico inferno and it's pitiful

[ruby canyon]

rough

[graceful juniper]

fangus is rng fiesta...and still need ssania too

[marsh topaz]

i swear his kit has more RNG than summoning system

and he keeps making those fucking weird ass noises

i had to mute the game

[left snow]

rc 77 is kinda dumb

[ruby canyon]

rc77 works with dot too cause he extends debuffs

[marsh topaz]

lmao fangus on anisync not doing jack as well

he's just standing there

[ruby canyon]

lmao fangus bricked

[marsh topaz]

worthless even as my enemy

[glass ruin]

nice what did i just make

wrong set

fml

[marsh topaz]

he geniuenly bricked my account

[ruby canyon]

just reset him then tbh

[marsh topaz]

i wouldn't be so mad if he was at least husbando material

[marsh topaz]

reset event where??!!

[glass ruin]

what sr's do yall have at 6*

[ruby canyon]

it's gone?

[marsh topaz]

no one

[left snow]

yep

[marsh topaz]

i wouldn't hesitate a single milisecond if it was still up

[ruby canyon]

lemme check my 6*s

[graceful juniper]

aint got mat to 6* sr chief....eh wait,only diting and its because he is dps

[orchid needle]

Im stuck on tiamat and sharon/niconana

[left snow]

evi has the tech for sharon

for those without mass/mocha

[ruby canyon]

I did tiamat perma cc with obol lily (blue side), kazuyo marvell (green side)

[orchid needle]

Ah I reset marvel

Also my speed substats arent good enough they outspeed me

[ruby canyon]

niconana I did rosa rc-77 lily 2nd dps(highest atk, sacrificed, ignore add) blue side, diting lily marvell vice 2nd dps

[left snow]

which side of sharon are you struggling on ?

[ruby canyon]

idk i might've mixed up the sides

[graceful juniper]

you guys already clearing normal ethernet? im fkin stuck with kururu...he is one of the most stupid boss together with sharon,i got no dps level up on green

[ruby canyon]

my SRs

[left snow]

thats not sharon tho

🤣

[ruby canyon]

that's dahlia babe

[orchid needle]

Oh

[glass ruin]

nice im thinking to 6* my viper too

[ruby canyon]

but diting lily valerian should work fine

[glass ruin]

my heinrich feels useless

[orchid needle]

Mb I meant dahlia

[ornate moth]

what do you think of red rin, feels like she's a rly good taunt bot with AOE taunt + bramble counterattack taunt on s1, and s2 is like a mini teamwide artisan

but haven't seen her used rly

[ruby canyon]

ehh vice is just a better rin

cause vice is also a healer and has turn push back

[ornate moth]

damn... lol I rly like rin's design so was hoping she could be made to be useful

[left snow]

i dont even remember what red rin does

[ornate moth]

what shell do ppl run vice on

[ruby canyon]

for dahlia you can use vice to chain taunt the boss and she'll never ult again

and you can just dps her down

[ornate moth]

s3 aoe taunt, s2 defense up and shield based on her defense to the team, s1 taunt single target

[ruby canyon]

i like lighthouse cuz i just put my tia gear on him

[ruby canyon]

rin the unbowed is good

for pvp and niconana, and pve challenge modes

[left snow]

do you run bloodbath on him ?

[civic relic]

Halloween only hits his s3 so been using that or gigabyte depending on the fight

[orchid needle]

Ooh ok

[ruby canyon]

swiftrush bramble, bloodbath would be really useful for the super hard hitting bosses i suppose

[ornate moth]

what's her shell of choice, codex?

[ruby canyon]

i was thinking just revelation tbh

cause that shells busted

[left snow]

how many strikes does she have on her s3 ?

[ornate moth]

true. Sets feel not ideal for her tho

2 attacks on s3

[ruby canyon]

2 aoe, like massiah

3 on her s1

[left snow]

fair enough

[ornate moth]

I would invest in her more but I already have xiada heavily invested feel like I need to diversify element wise

[ruby canyon]

yeah true

you want to stick to fewer units and lattice/6* them up ideally early on

the gimmicky units work at 3* or 4*

cause they just need effhit

[left snow]

xiada is also a great choice as she helps in a lot of game modes

aurora, doki, ethernet, ember trek etc

[ornate moth]

yeah xiada carries my account for most things lol

[ruby canyon]

like my rc77 is still 3* 1/1/1 actually 0 investment and still helped me clear a lot

[left snow]

btw for those who cant afford to max viper, would you say s1>s2>s3 ?

[main elm]

SR gamer, W

[ruby canyon]

s3 max is all you need

[left snow]

really ?

[ruby canyon]

everything else is gravy

[ornate moth]

I maxed all on viper lol

[ruby canyon]

yea 3 turn cd on that is crazy

[ornate moth]

not needed tho

[left snow]

i spent 12 lattices on him

[ruby canyon]

it's not bad, i just dont have many purps

[final cliff]

I mean why not, eventually, who else ur going to put lattices on

[ruby canyon]

i have so many SRs built

[ornate moth]

since I already have s2 max on fangus and no lattices in obol do I just try to make a hoyan team with fangus. Or is obol that much better

[ruby canyon]

obol is much better

[left snow]

fangus feels redundant if you dont have ssania

[ruby canyon]

you had lily didnt you

[ornate moth]

yeah I have lily

[ruby canyon]

yea obol lily + 2 sustain is auto on hoyan

[ornate moth]

guh rip my 4 lattices in fangus ig

[ruby canyon]

nah fangus is gonna be one of my next ones

[glass ruin]

does viper s2 max do anything?

[ruby canyon]

i think s2 reduces crit dmg and increases counter chance

[marsh topaz]

i warn you

[glass ruin]

my aurora auto is weird

[ruby canyon]

crit fangus looks fun in pvp

[left snow]

if you have ssania then he can be used with him for hoyan auto

[glass ruin]

viper sometimes goes before the immunity minion

[ornate moth]

obol is s1 first?

[ornate moth]

I have no shadow sania that's probably the main reason I even came to this thread in the first place loll

[ruby canyon]

if you run with lily s1 max helps a lot for the 2 turn dot

[pearl knot]

what ssr did you 6star

[left snow]

fair enough lol

[ruby canyon]

tia rosa lingluo massiah I believe

[pearl knot]

ty

[ruby canyon]

oh lily ofc

how could I forget

[pearl knot]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-gif-10455738442136230044

[ruby canyon]

I used tsukiyo mi initially but reset her for lily

once i pulled lily

[ornate moth]

understandable lily is a mid, forgettable unit that ppl don't rly care if they don't have

[ruby canyon]

tbh the main advantage i felt using lily over tsuki is that she can be used for sharon and terror cause not blue element lol

it's actually quite annoying having to fit atk buff into a 4 man comp without tsukiyo mi, although valerian can fit that role

[glass ruin]

so, obol can solo carry hoyan?

[ruby canyon]

yea he can

with s1 max and lily it's under 2 min

[glass ruin]

how many skillups needed tho

[ruby canyon]

5/1/1

[glass ruin]

6 starred?

[ruby canyon]

mine is, but wasnt when i first cleared hoyan

[glass ruin]

i see

[ruby canyon]

it just helps with not dying

[glass ruin]

might build him

[left snow]

do you use obol in pvp ?

[ruby canyon]

no but i havent done rta in a hot minute

my speed is severely lacking without 6 set shells dropping

[glass ruin]

nice im looking at so many 15 min tiamat aurora clears

[ruby canyon]

dont do that

[glass ruin]

im using rosa, 4 min clears but kinda inconsistent

[ruby canyon]

yeah rosa is much better

[glass ruin]

not sure if i need to 6 star my mia for this to be consistent

[graceful juniper]

did your mia die alot?

[glass ruin]

no but i feel like not enough healing

[graceful juniper]

isnt mia heal based on your unit hp? then it wont matter if you level her up

[glass ruin]

its her own max hp i think

[graceful juniper]

ah indeed its her max hp

[glass ruin]

i think lingluo is the one that scales off ur units

[scarlet quartz]

this still wouldnt clear tomorrow any opinion havers

[glass ruin]

is halloween used on anyone?

[distant wedge]

dinah still inconsistent for a multi run tho, if you don’t wanna have inconsistent runs replace her, her s3 is unreliable

[scarlet quartz]

doesnt change that it doesnt clear even if she lands def vulnurable and 4 stacks of whatever its called

[carmine palm]

Just pull Yeli, obv

[floral shuttle]

Im hoping Yeli will be a great partner for Khloros in Inferno Terror.. like a Rosa alternative vs Terror

[gilded mason]

Im hoping she will be completely busted in every single content

[glass ruin]

pls no my rosa

[gilded mason]

I hope she is rosa on steroids

Rosa dont have def break

[glass ruin]

every new char gray just dies

[civic relic]

Went 8-2 auto with this. Praise cachi

[silk temple]

Is it better to keep refreshing for stamina or just save crystals?

[graceful juniper]

the goat

[glass ruin]

if u not planning to pull for yeli probably just spend

just ensure u have 80 pity saved for the next normal banner i guess

[warped kestrel]

Speaking of which, has the next normal banner been announced?

There's 1 day and 10 hours left

[glass ruin]

im not even sure if there is gonna be one

[graceful juniper]

no annoucement...maybe later after yali banner end

[glass ruin]

feel like they would have put it in the patch notes

[warped kestrel]

So weird

These gacha gamas usually always have an RGB banner running

[nova island]

seems like just l/d banner this time

[gilded mason]

Whos gray

[glass ruin]

abandoned unit

[gilded mason]

Oh mines also 3 star level 1

[glass ruin]

it suddenly dropped stars few days ago

[gilded mason]

Reset him

Yeah weird

Wasted 1 of my resets

[civic relic]

They might not announce it if the next focus is a release char

[gilded mason]

You may be right

[glass ruin]

im ready

[thick arch]

[gilded mason]

5 summons and a dream

[undone vortex]

u only need 5 tickets for

E4 yeli

[glass ruin]

for viper users, what shell do u run

[ornate moth]

I have him on halloween for aurora/niconana

I think gigabyte/artisan work too and jackal if u don't have a speed buffer

[glass ruin]

yea i was thinking of halloween

my viper messes up his timing in aurora sometimes

[ornate moth]

halloween is rly nice on units with only one skill that has a CD cause it's basically a 96% chance of the s3 being -1 turn CD

[glass ruin]

have to farm sharonhell tho

[ruby canyon]

wait huh

[scarlet quartz]

@ornate moth The terrormaton nerf does nothing btw outside of faster clears if u were already going SR tankdown degen

Played around a bit and just 20% hp does nothing

In terms of actually allowing different comps to clear

[dreamy cliff]

20% means diting and khloros will most likely 1 shot with strip/def break/attack buff

Its a huge deal

[ruby canyon]

its 80% and then 80% next turn and it only goes on CD if it actually procs?

[scarlet quartz]

Khloros Diting were already able to clear before

[ornate moth]

yes

[scarlet quartz]

It's just less punishing

you are still putting people behind a Khloros check

people who thought Lian would be sufficient

[dreamy cliff]

Yes. But its less of a stat check now, more available to people

[ruby canyon]

ooo wait that's so good on viper no?

[ornate moth]

the only time it's useless is if it procs after 3rd turn where the s3 would already be off CD next turn anyway

[scarlet quartz]

People that have the right units, as it was before

[ornate moth]

but that should only be a 4% chance (.2*.2)

[ornate moth]

damn...

[scarlet quartz]

I guess they will figure that out as well during another x days of intenslely monitoring the issue

[ornate moth]

what % does this setup get to before things fall apart

[scarlet quartz]

30-35%

with every debuff landing

which is unlikely cause dinah is a fraud

[ruby canyon]

crazy... I'm assuming kloss does even worse?

[scarlet quartz]

more often its around the 40-50% mark

[scarlet quartz]

ye

and that's already from the position of someone having lily

[ornate moth]

I have no clue how this guy cleared

ig it's probably some max dupe heinrich with sub DPS level damage or something

[scarlet quartz]

cant check gear I'm guessing?

yeah it's either dmg hein or already inferno gear diting

but even then

[ornate moth]

no, screenshot is from asia or europe server I think

[scarlet quartz]

I tried all variations of kloss dinah keeneye fury/momentum fury diting

all cooked

[ruby canyon]

I'm thinking I'll just do the hoyan strat

[scarlet quartz]

u have the lattices to max s2

?

[ornate moth]

same tbh cause I already want to build hoyan for the pvp memes and like her design a lot

[ruby canyon]

maybe not necessary with 20% nerf

[ornate moth]

idc that much if it's only 60% consistent cause how much do I realistically need to farm terror

[scarlet quartz]

well it takes her 10% atk buff to 40%

[ornate moth]

I thought the hoyan strat maxed the s3 not the s2?

[scarlet quartz]

it's 60% on the skill or a 30% attack increase, probably s3 only is enough

[ruby canyon]

hoyan isn't the worst to have built in the roster

good pvp and cheese unit

I'm coping ok

[scarlet quartz]

Idk it's just gonna be another week without any real progress due to some vision from the devs for pve to be ballcrushing

I'm gonna give it a couple other goes tomorrow and if it's still terrible I'll just call it quits

to see a game fall so low from beta is crazy

[ornate moth]

damn wait the guy who did the clear everyone is talking about had 4/4/5 hoyan 😭 but I swear I remember someone saying the guy said it's possible with just 1/1/5 or something

[scarlet quartz]

probably the same guy saying trust it'll work

[ornate moth]

maybe with the 20% nerf 1/1/5 will be enough

[tall flame]

it's crazy how the game got worse from beta

all they had to do was nothing

just release the game and change nothing

[scarlet quartz]

cant wait for their next power move surely tomorrow revelation is still working

[tall flame]

surely there's no shadow nerfs

right guys

[ornate moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrdMRP8iik ok at 4:45ish is where he says you only need s3 to lv4 for the strat

[scarlet quartz]

no rumors

i can tell from the thumbnail its terminal

[ornate moth]

LOL

[scarlet quartz]

Man I'm just glad

we nerfed turn meter

to prevent degenerate playstyles and cheeses

[white veldt]

so happy we made sure ppl cant enjoy the game

much easier to be #1 if everyone else quits

[scarlet quartz]

nerf 2 infernos into we will keep monitoring and analyze

XD

[ornate moth]

some guy earlier in world chat was getting annoyed that he couldn't get his 30 second auto battle 3-man shadow sania team set up right to be consistent in inferno hoyan

[scarlet quartz]

one of the nerfs being the most useless thing ever

[white veldt]

20% hp will surely help

surely

also why even is the right arm absolutely unkillable

whats the point of it being an enemy if it cant die

[scarlet quartz]

uhh to prevent stalling out the boss! (he gets 20% attack per turn)

[ornate moth]

ok it's cause someone else replicated the strat with a much weaker hoyan and still cleared

[white veldt]

why is it so damn tanky
they nerfed its hp by 20% as if to imply it can be killed but its much tankier than the boss

[ornate moth]

cause I saw 2 vids showing the strat with screenshots of the hoyan & diting and the second hoyan/diting had much weaker gear

problem is I would need 3+ lattices for hoyan but also some lattices in heinrich or holden

[quasi laurel]

isn't this one relying on the left hand to target hoyan? (whichi is a 20% chance)

[ancient aurora]

Only less hp on terror inferno will be implemented?

[hexed jay]

need more complaining

reduce terror inferno hp by 99%

[ornate moth]

theoretically it is a 25% chance because it won't target Dinah (element advantage) but apparently you can make it more likely to target hoyan by giving her a non-maxed HP piece on the left since it tries to target the squishiest unit

[graceful juniper]

Nah let us skip after first clear

[ornate moth]

so from what I heard it's more like a 50/50 chance of hoyan being targeted if u set it up right

[sudden wedge]

that doesn’t work trust me

[hexed jay]

let us skip and insta sweep for 100 times with no stamina cost and 100% chance of success

🙏

[sudden wedge]

it’s unlikely that probability is different by stats

I did at least 500 resets and the boss would most of the time target freya, dinah

[ornate moth]

it's over

[sudden wedge]

probably even considering I was going mad

[quasi laurel]

I don't think that works tho, targetting is hp% based and not flat hp

at least it looks like it since it targets random when I do it

[sudden wedge]

the cc that posted that vid

[quasi laurel]

(not with that team, with my painful dot manual one)

[sudden wedge]

also conveniently showed a manual run

[quasi laurel]

but again, we go back to the original point, farmable content should be farmable

there are so many other things to use your online time on

[graceful juniper]

You forgot mention 3 set drop guarantee with 4 subs and main stats that we can choose after got them duh

[sudden wedge]

I think 20% hp nerf is suitable

otherwise you would have diting one shotting the boss again

[ruby canyon]

tbf dismantling modules should give some of the module currency as its currently only from first time clears

[scarlet quartz]

@hexed jay @graceful juniper u guys need to get lined up

no hate

[ornate moth]

he claims 60% but idk lol

I've seen a bunch of conflicting claims some ppl claiming they can get 50%+ targeting hoyan and some saying it barely ever targets hoyan

[hexed jay]

but that's what the community wants

[ornate moth]

maybe it's like ur account has an RNG seed that determines who terrormaton shoots lmao

[hexed jay]

only pvp no pve

[ornate moth]

u literally engage exclusively with straw men it's very reddit coded

[hexed jay]

since it's a pvp game

[sudden wedge]

well we at least know lowest hp% is 100% consistent

[ruby canyon]

in my experience they target weak element > neutral > strong if all same hp

[sudden wedge]

so I wouldn’t see why hp stat would be factored in its targetting

[carmine palm]

probably some weird weighting system, like when I was trying inferno sharon earlier Diting's first target thing would go on one of the three randomly, but seemed way rarer to go on Sharon herself to start (everyone had 100% hp)

[ruby canyon]

just bad luck, it's definitely 1 in 3

[quasi laurel]

I am very confident that it ignores elemental disadvantage and then it is equal chance between what remains

did nico inferno a bizilion times on manual and lingluo is never target by the add but the other 3 seems to be equally aimed

total hp is irrelevant

[ornate moth]

Us: "Inferno got buffed too much after beta without proper testing and it is leading to only people with specific characters having a reasonable chance of clearing while others need insane investment, which is creating a big gear gap between people with good gacha luck and all others. There is a place for difficult PVE but it should be focused more in ember trek, ethernet rally etc. and not in the daily farming content. Resources are also too scarce which makes it hard to invest in the broad variety of units you need to clear the Inferno stages if you don't have the perfect SSRs"

You guys: "Hurr durr u guys don't like difficulty u want everything given to u for free with no effort. Also I like to huff paint"

@graceful juniper @hexed jay

[graceful juniper]

What? Its a joke bro relax

[scarlet quartz]

LOL

[hexed jay]

so funny lmao

[quasi laurel]

the second part of the issue that those who can't clear inferno doesn't understand is that the drop table is horrible

[carmine palm]

I'm at soft pity on the perm ld summon banner with 31 vouchers left so I'll just buy a few pulls from whatever Yeli bundles are there for one last chance at ssania in a newly diluted pool. I don't think I have it in me to wait around another 2 weeks to see if they nerf any of the other 5/7 inferno stages

[quasi laurel]

which is fine, as long as I could auto that garbage

[scarlet quartz]

its not so bad

the droptable is fine for a mode meant to be farmed endlessly

and effortlessly

[quasi laurel]

every manual run I do to get an epic shell or 2 passive module kills me inside

yeah, if I could auto farm that and alt tab that would be fine

[scarlet quartz]

issue is it's neither efforless nor clearable for most people

[sudden wedge]

tbh that’s just an early game problem

[ornate moth]

I agree the drop rates need adjustment, I just think it's a secondary priority because if they fix drop rates before inferno difficulty it just increases the gear advantage of shadow sania and RTA will be further dominated by only shadow sania + lily accounts

[sudden wedge]

you are just going to farm shells for the data later anyway

[quasi laurel]

it will take forever for that "later"

[sudden wedge]

I don’t think so

[scarlet quartz]

if they fix us being able to clear this on auto

[sudden wedge]

you also have to consider triple line shells are guarenteed to be 3 matrix

[scarlet quartz]

i dont think the droprates are an issue

[quasi laurel]

still so many bad combinations

[sudden wedge]

sure they can increase triple line drops but then you would have matrix rng

[quasi laurel]

again, if I could hit auto and check whatever I get it would be fine

[scarlet quartz]

if they really want to keep this difficulty it's only 3 matrix drops and red shells

[ruby canyon]

it's a little annoying that there's no visual distinction or way to filter for triple matrix shells

[scarlet quartz]

but then again as rath said

[ornate moth]

I think they should just slightly increase the rate of red shells or have a pity where you can't get 3 epics in a row from an inferno boss

[graceful juniper]

Does triple matrix doesnt guarantee you all 3 set?

[scarlet quartz]

ssania is just steamrolling shit anyway

[scarlet quartz]

it does

there is someone making funny jokes not having cleared the content

how suprising

[ornate moth]

it does but it's still quite a low chance of the 3 set being the right combination

[white veldt]

no but instead of simulating it let it just be 100% winrate at tge speed of your fastest clear so theres an incentive to push for faster clear times instead of consistent 2min runs that cause 1400 stamina to take your entire day

[ornate moth]

you can get some upgrades on supports just by going from a 12 swift rainbow set with 2 matrix shell to a 3 matrix shell. But if you want an actual endgame shell with the best combo it's gonna take a very long time

[graceful juniper]

Oh man why do people feel to take it personal,i just see 1 comment that sound so absurd that i make a joke about it then people take it to the heart

[ruby canyon]

r1999 system goated

[white veldt]

or up it to more than 10x cuz I dont like having to be distracyed from my actual real life job every 10min to start more niconana autos

of which 2-3 fail

I dont think my boss is enjoying how distracted I am

[jade edge]

Pussies.

[white veldt]

this game has taken time out of my daily activities just to press the damn auto button 20 times per day to get through the 1388 stamina

[ornate moth]

another disadvantage of not having the best SSRs, even if I find a consistent setup to clear inferno terror or nico/hoyan I am looking at 5 or 8 auto battles at a time that take 3 mins each to burn my daily stamina. Rather than 10 at a time 1 min each

[carmine palm]

So much better than that "boring" beta

[orchid needle]

damn really could use that nerf right about now

[scarlet quartz]

point proven 8 attack stacks

homie was in there

[white veldt]

its fine tho
meta will be meta and whales can whale but let me at least just theorycraft a fast clear instead of a slogfest

this isnt a US war in the middle east, can we hurry it up

[scarlet quartz]

for 20 minutes

[graceful juniper]

And wow talk about assuming someone not doing smth just because they dont know everything....maybe people asking because they meet it yet

[white veldt]

2 star?

Im sorry that you didnt pull ssania

may the rng gods bless you

[graceful juniper]

Im just done after first clear it...its with ssania too

[graceful juniper]

My shell are ass thats why i go back farming hell

[white veldt]

hmmkey youll get under 1min just from autoing it a couple times then

[white veldt]

Sharon in hard ethernet can suck my girl balls

[graceful juniper]

So? You insuinating im not done inferno shell yet which i did from my question asking about triple matrix set from shell since the topic before is talking about shell

[hexed jay]

reduce sharon hp to 1?

[scarlet quartz]

hello i am sharon

[white veldt]

I like how this thread is 90% ppl complaining inferno too hard for the game to be enjoyable

and 10% ppl gatekeeping inferno opinions to ppl whove already cleared it? like hello wasnt the point that people couldnt clear it?

[graceful juniper]

Remove her minion too while at it

[white veldt]

spawn her in with 25 dot effects on her so she dies the moment she acts

[hexed jay]

no ssania and lily needed

problem solved

[ornate moth]

well some of the gatekeeping on opinions was like, a guy in here a while ago saying inferno is fine ppl will come up with strategies, and he was lv40 so had no idea how hard it was or wasn't

[scarlet quartz]

you talking about c?

my bad.

[ornate moth]

no

[white veldt]

C doesnt play the game

none of the staff do

dont think these devs have ever touched hell III nvm inferno

[scarlet quartz]

wdym they tested the buffs intensely before releasing the game

[white veldt]

sure doesnt feel like it at least

[ornate moth]

c does play the game lol and did say lets wait and see maybe ppl will come up with stuff but that was super early when the first ppl started complaining/making these threads, then after a few days forwarded feedback saying it was too hard to the devs

[dreamy cliff]

They said they play before

[scarlet quartz]

just like they are intensely monitoring

[tall flame]

nah they definitely cleared hell and inferno in beta

[white veldt]

true true

[tall flame]

but they definitely have not cleared it on launch

[hexed jay]

probably busy

[white veldt]

gang im being sarcastic

[hexed jay]

look at all the complaints they have to read

you think they have time to play?

[tall flame]

busy monitoring

[scarlet quartz]

pretty sure

they aint reading shit

[white veldt]

they read them?

[carmine palm]

wonder how bad the numbers got for them to finally release Jack from whatever hole he was buried in to say two sentences

[white veldt]

took them a week just to nerf hp by 20% which afaik is still harder than it was in beta

[scarlet quartz]

I dont wanna hate c but i kinda blame him for only getting 2/7

[white veldt]

c does not agree with the entire community and so his opinion influences the end result massively

[orchid needle]

first terror clear

[ornate moth]

congrats!!

[white veldt]

the pin clearly states that he does not agree with the sentiment here

[orchid needle]

and 2 node module

[tall flame]

what pets did you run?

[ornate moth]

what are the lattices? I assume it is 4-5 artisans?

[orchid needle]

holden artisan, lily jackal, cachiTG artisan, mia halloween, valerian gigabyte

[scarlet quartz]

saying we will clear the other infernos with niconana and terror done is exactly the same like telling us we will be able to clear infernos once some chinese people cook up some shit

0 foresight to obvious issues

people actually hitting inferno early were very easily able to tell that shit aint it

and that more than terror and niconana need nerfs is also no rocket science

[distant wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-trending-funny-gif-animated-gif-4483477421889562465

[scarlet quartz]

the terror nerf isnt even enough

[carmine palm]

That's what happens when you jump to conclusions and promote everyone's 5 hour rng fish 1 time clear victories

[ornate moth]

thanks! I only have holden at 5* so gotta debate if I need to 6* him or try to make the strat work with diting or fangus or someone squeezed in there somehow to do damage lol

[scarlet quartz]

@distant wedge another clown who either isnt at inferno, does have the premier SSRs or is fine running that shit on auto for 5 hours a day

[orchid needle]

mine took a few tries, was rng, but after the nerfs might not be as rng

probably can build a one shot comp instead

[distant wedge]

why r u mad? dumbass

tagging me here for what lol

[scarlet quartz]

ah i forgot

[distant wedge]

drama queen

[scarlet quartz]

no hate*

[mental mural]

Inferno is looking impossible for me right now without better gear

Is rengokutsu bugged?

[scarlet quartz]

try to get inferno sets before attempting inferno

[mental mural]

Dot works on it when it says it doesn't then doesnt

[mental mural]

Describe inferno sets

[scarlet quartz]

furyedge

etc

[mental mural]

Bruh I just told you inferno is looking impossible 💀

[scarlet quartz]

look man I'm just relaying dev intentions

[mental mural]

Inferno terrormaton won't be possible for me for weeks or months

[tired socket]

farm h4 to get good sets then transition into nerfed niconana get 9 matrix shells then transition into inferno terror after that and work ur way through the inferno bosses

[mental mural]

No lily, Veronica and Holden

[scarlet quartz]

wdym they just nerfed it

just clear it

[mental mural]

Not enough

[scarlet quartz]

[tired socket]

i can clear it comfortably after nerfs

no dot or lily

[mental mural]

I dont have the units you used

[tired socket]

well not oulling holden was skill issue honestly

we all knew including u he was very powerful

[final gust]

Yap

[mental mural]

I have no intentions of summoning on a limited banner

[scarlet quartz]

shouldnt be able to play the game then

unlucky

[carmine palm]

just reroll until you get every mandatory unit on the first 10 pull, and then go back in time so you're not bricked without the 2x event

[pure junco]

Just substitute the units you're missing with others

[carmine palm]

Just reduce the boss hp to 0.

[scarlet quartz]

true since there is so much leeway in the clears

https://tenor.com/view/ahhh-yes-yes-gif-24225701

[tired socket]

with 20% less hp and all the other nerfs on nico

there probably is

why dont u stfu and see for urself tommorow

?

jumping the gun here

[scarlet quartz]

u can already go in

[pure junco]

There is now. Just read skill descriptions

[scarlet quartz]

and see

[tired socket]

no u cant

[scarlet quartz]

yes you can

[tired socket]

no u cant

[scarlet quartz]

does he survive with more than 20% yes or no

[tired socket]

yeah

but u can do nico comfortably

tommorow

[scarlet quartz]

nico doesnt help

with terror

[tired socket]

which allows for bigger shells

are u stuoid bro

hahaha

9 matrix shells gives a bunch of extra stats

wont help with a massive stat check boss

ok than

my bad

[scarlet quartz]

the 60 extra attack

will make the difference

i am sure of it

[tired socket]

and spd

[distant wedge]

they’d rather get it nerfed by like 90% so they can 1 shot it with their lian

[tired socket]

and def

and hp

[distant wedge]

[tired socket]

across ur whole team

[scarlet quartz]

or use her at all, yes

[tired socket]

it certianly makes a difference

[distant wedge]

amazing

[pure junco]

it's not 95.88% Lower? EOS

[scarlet quartz]

suddenly they wont get one tapped anymore, certainly

[tired socket]

this thread had a point

then it gets nerfed

and now its crying its not getting nerfed enough

[distant wedge]

then complain again

[tired socket]

absolute cinema

[distant wedge]

so basically terror has now about 50k more hp than beta version

[scarlet quartz]

if the nerfs dont change anything, yes

[tired socket]

but they do

about 150k less hp if im not mistkane

is MASSIVE DEAL

MASSIVE

the difference

[scarlet quartz]

sure

[tired socket]

IS NIGHT AND DAY

[pure junco]

The Nerfs make things significantly more easier for people

[distant wedge]

not enough for lian

[carmine palm]

hey how is your green sania and celince team going for inferno aurora?

[scarlet quartz]

people that were already able to edge out a clear having the right units

yes

[distant wedge]

think of niconana, 30% less dmg reduction is like what 300% more dmg?

[tired socket]

nico losing spd and hp and base dmg reduction by 30% is NIGHT AND DAY

these nerfs make the wall so much smaller

[scarlet quartz]

niconana is significant the shells wont make u magically clear terror tho

[tired socket]

is it still hard to beat YES

but WAY EASIER

[scarlet quartz]

no

[distant wedge]

we dont magically clear stages

we get better before doing higher up stages

[pure junco]

I use Valerian and Lingluo instead. 😆

[carmine palm]

or just pull ssania, no need to get better ez

[tired socket]

im sure those 20% hp will bring up new oneshot teams

like 100%

its not even a question

u will see higher variety

[scarlet quartz]

surely

[tired socket]

yes surely

[scarlet quartz]

xD

[small knot]

The variety in question: yeli khloros

[distant wedge]

i want her skill showcase asap

[small knot]

Or just run diting yeli for any st boss

[distant wedge]

both li’s + diting

lily yeli

[small knot]

[pure junco]

Lol

[small knot]

Forbidden combo

[pure junco]

You're gonna give them more to complain about

[distant wedge]

li di ting

sounds like cn

[small knot]

Lilyeli: restart

[distant wedge]

[ornate moth]

or we pull shadow sania

[distant wedge]

she is so ugly

i wouldnt even use her if i had her

[ornate moth]

I like her look better than most of these stupid units I’m having to build to get clears without her lmao

[civic relic]

I finally cleared it

Buff extension spamming

[quick sapphire]

Huge

Viper carried me so hard on my clear, he's broken on that fight

[quasi laurel]

not having kloss make every pve content much harder

it is what it is

[graceful juniper]

Your shell are maxed? Since i try buff extension but im still losing hp

[civic relic]

Yeah the shells are maxed

Tsukuyomi s2

Is so good

For that comp

[graceful juniper]

Damn....i guess i really have shell issue,still farming them now

[civic relic]

I was trying kloss in the holden slot and thought "why don't I just bring attack down" lol

Cachi s2 holden s2 actually kept her from taking so many turns in last phase

[quick sapphire]

Massiah/Freya/Viper/Lingluo/Lily I autoed it with this team, was struggling before I put in viper

[quick sapphire]

This sounds great though, sent to the shadowrealm everytime she wants to take a turn lol

[ornate moth]

just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS (Inferno was harder in 1.0) on THE INFERNO TERRORMATON (it was harder before boss HP nerf) CLEAR. I know you've been working really hard (Inferno used to be harder, in 1.0) at it, and I'm happy that you've (Inferno used to be harder) achieved your goal of completion. I know your journey through (Inferno used to be harder with more HP) the content was filled with ups and downs, but you (Inferno used to be harder) stuck (Inferno used to be harder) through them all. Congratulations (Inferno used to be so much harder before 6/26 patch) once again, and here's to more success in your future (Inferno used to be harder before nerfs) endeavors!!!

copypasta for future use

[quick sapphire]

The ultimate FFXIV copy pasta is diabolical

[ornate moth]

LOL glad someone recognizes it

[civic relic]

I wish I had built viper, missing all 12 lattice atm

[ornate moth]

sadly I do not remember what my strategy was to clear ember 42 because I did it while I was drunk 💀

shows the power of lily+xiada+revelation+kloss I guess

[quick sapphire]

Yeah I built him yesterday. I maxed his s3 and s2 and he's working really well

[civic relic]

Oh yikes keeneye fury rimolcha is not even close to one shotting doki. Guess I'm farming momentum

[gilded mason]

Lmao your name and pfp

[scarlet quartz]

👀

[gilded mason]

😂

Never forget the legends

[scarlet quartz]

I'm a freedom fighter

[gilded mason]

A man on a mission

The man who dares to dream

[quick sapphire]

Are the nerfs today or tomorrow with the patch?

[pure junco]

Tomorrow

How many struggled with Niconana?

[gilded mason]

Me

Anyone who doesnt have ssania will struggle tbh

[undone vortex]

this username 😭 😭 😭

[gilded mason]

You can clear it but need investment in specific units, which requires resources

We lack resources

[undone vortex]

u can get resources pretty easily u just needa hack the game

ezpz

[gilded mason]

Bet

[pure junco]

And here I'm stuck with Sharon lol

[undone vortex]

./give 1000 perfect lettuce

to wuzzy

[gilded mason]

NERF ALL THE SHELL BOSSES

Why tf are they so strong

[undone vortex]

I wanna talk to the person who designed Ethernet rally

[gilded mason]

Revert back to beta level you pu ks

[undone vortex]

why they put Sharon in green/light

[pure junco]

So you don't progress too much

[undone vortex]

no cachi, no diting

no lingluo

[gilded mason]

Waitng for ld ssr healer that replaces lingluo

[undone vortex]

SSR Dorothy

[gilded mason]

Dream is full team ld ssr

That can clear all content

No changes needed

[undone vortex]

they introduce a 6th element and make the premium RGB triangle

[gilded mason]

What will it be called

We have constant disorder

[scarlet quartz]

Delusion

[undone vortex]

it'll be called jackzzz

[scarlet quartz]

No rumors

[undone vortex]

Jack can't stop me

[small knot]

I called it

Yeli has a 3 hit on her def break

Sigh

Just your standard revelation unit

[tribal osprey]

its worse

she can perform a lot of auto attacks after it

and if it works like rosa

[floral shuttle]

I see people doing it with Obol + Cachi, with Lily + Lingluo.. cant do that thou, even Obol Cachi I dont have lmao. Viper is awesome there thou doing it with him

[gilded mason]

Im out of purple lattice at this point

[floral shuttle]

Standard revelation unit that can be used everywhere

[small knot]

I honestly don’t see how she will be much better than Rosa or any of the other cleave dps

For PvP at least

[gilded mason]

Used all my purple on dinah

For my dps terro team

[small knot]

I didn’t check her base spd tho so idk

[floral shuttle]

Yea we need new reconfigure event lmao. Need to reset Marvell, too much SRs valuable for end game atm

[gilded mason]

Yeah i wanna reset my rilmocha

After i found massiah revelation, i dont use her anymore lol

[floral shuttle]

There are people clearing Inferno with Rilmocha on Count + Momentum, one shotting 1st wave too

[gilded mason]

I use massiah more widely

[floral shuttle]

But yea, I have revelation on my Massiah too, cant come back to White Fang on him anymore lol

[gilded mason]

Literally used him everywhere

Man can do it all

Rilmocha strictly for doki2 only

[floral shuttle]

Yea I can auto hell 4 terror aurora doki2 with Massiah 100% wr too. Inferno need manual thou wch is bothersome

[gilded mason]

Ah, are you lilyless

[carmine palm]

Meh yeli... skill 1 bit higher total multi than Rosa but it only hits once vs 3 times. And her followup is only for her own crits, no debuff to proc off group crits. Her S3's got the same multiplier, but the def break % is a bit lower than Rosa's speed down which already isn't super reliable. Would've expected the multipiliers to be a bit higher unless I'm missing something. Haven't played with Xiada much, are there many buffs to steal in PVE?

I don't get the wording of the passive, does it chain? In most games "with an active skill" doesn't count follow-ups

[small knot]

Usually if there are buffs they’re undispellable

Xiada buff steal was pretty much a non factor

Should be the same for yeli for the most part

[gilded mason]

She looks pretty busted man

Can steal buff, def break, boost crit, follow up. Dont even need stripper anymore since she can keep stealing buff with s1 as long as she crit on any skill

[carmine palm]

the potential infinite chains seem silly. unless it's limited to a second follow, or it's 60% each time

[gilded mason]

She can cast s1 multiple times

So no def breaker needed either

Gray+ rosa lmao

[carmine palm]

so like second is 60%, third is 36% chance

eh

you'll need eff ac

to steal/def break

[gilded mason]

Yeah

One eff acc, one crit rate one crit dmg right side i guess

Another high gear req unit

[carmine palm]

and full lattice

[gilded mason]

But she really strong

Yeah if you full lattice her she gonna be used everywhere

[carmine palm]

since you need the cd reduction on S3 for rev, and S2 for followups, and most of personal damage from S1

[gilded mason]

Yup you gotta max em all

Maybe s1 last

[pure junco]

Give me 50 Lattices aiaz

[gilded mason]

Let me reset my rilmocha and get 4 latticr back

So i can max this new bish

[pure junco]

😂

[gilded mason]

Aurora immunity? No problem lmao