inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k

[hallow nymph]

But harvest or fury would’ve been crazy

[gilded mason]

Etheria: Rngstart

[jolly relic]

Lily S-Sania Restart

[hazy kindle]

Best is Still Etheria No Lily: Restart

[abstract pier]

it's not my team, I said I saw it somewhere.
Also, I said it was max duped max skilled, so it's not really an options for most of the players. I mentioned that because it doesn't make sense when people say it can be cleared with mostly SR chracters

[gaunt owl]

That's good 😂

[green spear]

Mb then I didn’t notice that info

And wasn’t just towards you but just in general as I see a lot of people saying all these units work without proper info

[abstract pier]

no worries, yeah it's annoying

[storm wagon]

These YouTube videos of the alternative are always unrealistic and inconsistent

Like why should I upgrade my skills for less than 50% success

[abstract pier]

true, I would gladly grind for 2 more weeks for that team if I know it can reliably auto

[charred minnow]

Union member team for inferno dokidoki on auto, slow runs but pretty solid only 8 lattice investment for characters that can be used elsewhere

replace Tiamat Jackal with an Artisan and the build is finished

should have a solid auto clear win rate, but slow

[tribal osprey]

Does celince stop the revenge from stacking in the final wave?

[ruby canyon]

shouldnt even be that slow with double revelation tbh

but could use some sort of cd reset like tsuki/lily/mia

[crystal chasm]

any terramaton inf comps i can run?

[charred minnow]

the idea is to be able to tank everything and just wait for the revelation hits, especially for wave 2 where hits are more painful

[naive sluice]

Can someone tell me how to kill that fat monkey who kidnaps people without Lily?

[inland chasm]

I think he is playing manuel if he would be play auto his freya would wake up everyone or not?

[charred minnow]

wdym?

[indigo oyster]

Both freya and Celine is the dps in this team

[inland chasm]

If he plays on auto fight his kazuyo goes first put everyone to sleep but since his freya is faster than tia everyone is waking up cause ai using s3 over s2 which gets rid of 25% dmg bonus or not?

[charred minnow]

;-;

it's on auto, freya and celince run revelation on full atk build

[inland chasm]

Bruh i just noticed the build were too focused on stats

[indigo oyster]

Waking up the mob isn’t that much of a problem because you want them to not have the 90% dmg reductions after u cc them

[warped kestrel]

without Lily

See, that's your first and last mistake. This game isn't meant to be played without Lily.

[inland chasm]

Yeah if celince and freya are dmg dealer doesnt matter anyway xD

[charred minnow]

the 90% dmg reduc isn't really important for the team, we're already thinking of replacing Kazuyo for another healer/support or make Kazuyo also run a revelation build

[inland chasm]

Yeah with true dmg you can just slash through the dmg reduction

[indigo oyster]

It really kinda is if u wanna clear it faster and consistent

[inland chasm]

I never thought abt freya dps ... Thats a good idea

[indigo oyster]

Idk if Celine forgetfulness ignore the reduction or not

[charred minnow]

it removes it

[stable dagger]

the moment i got her shi ain't the same anymore

game on ez mode

especially for Rev spammers

[inland chasm]

Maybe your team mate might go lilith aswell xD

[charred minnow]

I'm talking about the team I shared, dmg reduc isn't important as most dmg comes from Revelation

[indigo oyster]

Well Celine ain’t applying any forgetfulness

[charred minnow]

again

it doesn't matter

[indigo oyster]

Ik that but having the reduction on cooldown make it faster

[stable dagger]

you just want crit to land with Rev

[charred minnow]

how will it make it faster?

they barely do dmg with their skills even without the dmg reduc

[inland chasm]

How much you hit with rev?

Or your friend

[charred minnow]

Celince

white hits are revelation, red hits are her own attacks (so 4x 6.4k)

[inland chasm]

I know ok 1k more than my rosa

[charred minnow]

his Freya

[inland chasm]

Damn

[charred minnow]

@indigo oyster see those numbers? 1.2k without dmg reduc

how will that make the kill faster lmao

[indigo oyster]

ok, i also tested it, wouldnt matter anyway💀 i was wrong

[inland chasm]

XD

[charred minnow]

for my ril comp it matters for atleast 1 unit haha

[indigo oyster]

my test, proving me wrong
left w kazuyo, right w/o kazuyo cc(i cc one mob the left one so it couldnt get a turn hench y)

[indigo oyster]

also i heard ril would be better w count, is that true

[charred minnow]

yeah my ril comp uses count, one shot wave 1 and 2

[upbeat breach]

This is just revelation on a unit stacked with atk?

[indigo oyster]

yes

[upbeat breach]

a full revelation team does sound fun

[indigo oyster]

u need chacter that do multi hit, so xiada,freya,kazuyo,celine etc

[upbeat breach]

mia should be great too

Just need to see the requirements to actually wipe waves with only rev damage

[wicked compass]

why are people still talking here

[upbeat breach]

because we are bored

[wicked compass]

https://tenor.com/view/mortified-dog-shaved-looking-around-stan-twitter-gif-5783855028690132564

[true trench]

because we dont have lily/ssania

[fringe delta]

Do the devs actually listen to any of the suggestions

[true trench]

cm has passed the feedback to the devs

[tiny sage]

So far no

[fringe delta]

That’s not a good look

[tiny sage]

Outside of them having to kneejerk react to giving reconfigures after the Shadow Nerfing/Buffin Incident.

[true trench]

time will tell

if you cant wait it might be better to just pull the plug

[uncut mica]

This fight is getting nerfed in the patch tomorrow so you'll have a day to finish up

[tiny sage]

Give it time...

The Videos are on the way.

[fringe delta]

I can wait was just wondering

[upbeat breach]

That fight is impossible

[tiny sage]

They had to get roasted by multiple CC Videos before then KneeJerk Reacted to Reconfigured.

The only two people still playing that they spammed commercials of is Tash and Volk

[fringe delta]

Hopefully CC make videos about skill preset and other QoL

[upbeat breach]

There is no skill preset

[fringe delta]

I know I hope they add it

[small knot]

Skill preset?

[tiny sage]

they been fussing about skill preset since frame one at this point thought it is like a 5th tier issue.

[true trench]

being able to give skills usage priority or such. if you have heard of a system called "gambit"

[river pewter]

you mean the setting for auto?

ehh it's fine

just like

[upbeat breach]

To be fair a lot of them are just clickbaiting people for the views, they never really cared about it

[river pewter]

fix beyontin

and we good

[small knot]

Like in e7

[tiny sage]

not true.

[fringe delta]

You can choose what skills they use first and second

[inland chasm]

They need to fix sania ai why the hell you revive a support unit.....

[fringe delta]

But also allows you to make them not use certain skills

[tiny sage]

Stix sure is clickbaiting but he always has.

[upbeat breach]

It is the reality....

[river pewter]

they intentionally not make it on purpose you know

[small knot]

Idk that’s lowk just fix game ai or do it manual

[tiny sage]

Name someone other then Stix who is clickbaiting?

[river pewter]

most cases it's fine

[small knot]

I don’t think skill presets are that necessary unless it’s like in e7

[inland chasm]

You cant do manual in phantom sadly

[river pewter]

but some cases the AI is too dumb

[surreal bobcat]

have a high atk unit as bait and then use dot for ads. then burst down nico

[upbeat breach]

Hard to name people actually doing good content for the game

[true trench]

any "team guide" that doenst have the lineup in the thumbnail is clickbaiting

havent seen too much of them

[tiny sage]

seanB, Seii, Volk

Sterbyy

really not that hard

[upbeat breach]

considering how many were are supposed to have? yeah it is hard

[true trench]

"good content"

lmfao

the bar must be really low

[upbeat breach]

How is this not clickbait

[fringe delta]

Wasn’t this video just about not having lily

[tacit ingot]

as far as clickbait goes thats really mild

[tribal osprey]

He's letting his audience know of a new code for those that aren't terminally on the discord?

[true trench]

in a 10minute video

[tribal osprey]

You can check the vid yourself.

[fiery pilot]

Dear hyperlinkers,
We sincerely appreciate all your reports regarding Etheria's gameplay experience. After careful review, our development team will deploy these two targeted improvements in the patch which will be released on 25th June, including,

1. Inferno-NicoNana (Grim Pursuit) nerfs: HP -10%,SPD-10%, Skill [Friendly Match] additional DMG Reduction adjusted to 60% (from 90%)
   2.Inferno-Terrormaton(Threshold) nerfs: 20% HP reduction across Terrormaton,Reform - Attacking Hand and Reform - Guarding Hand

[distant wedge]

slow

[gilded mason]

MMObyte

[tribal osprey]

O they are finally giving numbers on their patch notes

[scarlet quartz]

No changes to hoyan?

[tribal osprey]

@restive quiver YO YOU DONT NEED TO QUIT! THE INFERNO NERFS ARE HERE

[pure junco]

Lmao he probably quit already Flight

[tribal osprey]

[tacit ingot]

so, they're doubling down that they do want the PVE to be really hard

[fringe delta]

I wonder if this means you don’t need Ssania now

[upbeat breach]

I guess they are posting the updates on the fly

[scarlet quartz]

if that's it

that's a joke

and an insult

lowkey

[fringe delta]

What’s wrong with hoyan

[upbeat breach]

they tested nico and terror and implemented it

[strong ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-dodge-throw-matrix-miss-gif-3764049638817774883

inferno hoyan be like

[upbeat breach]

At least that is what I am hoping for

[scarlet quartz]

I am not ready for any benefit of the doubt with them

[pure junco]

Hmmmmmmm

[true trench]

good start. wouldve liked to see something about the ramping damage of terror but the flat HP reduction does the same thing indirectly

[pure junco]

Probably best to see what happens next

[hexed jay]

any doom posters?

[upbeat breach]

20% is quite a big chump of hp. It will also only affect the non dot teams there, which is good

[fringe delta]

Next change can we see epic shells being removed from inferno please

[grand roost]

i love these devs, straight up giving middle finger with this one haha, theyre making fun of people so hard

[pure junco]

You mean the entire thread?

[upbeat breach]

that is full delulu

[hexed jay]

what are we gonna doom post guys we can't keep seeing all these positive changes

[fringe delta]

It’s might be

[fringe delta]

But let me be delulu

[hexed jay]

you know it's always not enough

[abstract pier]

terror also needed a spd nerf

[true trench]

just focus on the bosses that didnt get changed. or how ssania+lily are still borderline required for some of the content

when positives come around you dig up new negatives

[hexed jay]

they're only mostly required for inferno terror tho

[fringe delta]

Isn’t lily requires for some inferno shell stages

[upbeat breach]

Do we know if they are planning to do changes for the rest or that is just it?

[tribal osprey]

Might be trying to make Nico and terror have a lower barrier so people have some inferno gear to challenge the others

[scarlet quartz]

Next thing we get is a "we will keep monitoring the situation"

Nah

this is bs

[karmic fractal]

I am able to auto like nico inferno (on like 60% success ratio) without her. Xiada/lily/viper/lingluo. Post nerf it will probably be 100%

[upbeat breach]

nico should be a lot easier now

Like a looot easier

[tribal osprey]

Yep

[hexed jay]

Freya can substitute

[tacit ingot]

also, isnt nico one of the only infernos people can somewhat clear? why nerf that one of all the modes?

[main elm]

I need to confirm something, does 3 set red shell has more stats than 2 set red shell ?

[winged ocean]

yes

[hexed jay]

yes

[grand roost]

yes they do

[main elm]

Make sense, I was wondering why this one had 40 speed

[tribal osprey]

To get a lower barrier.

Since Nico seems like it should be the first one you are able farm based on the progression order

[tacit ingot]

sure. but wouldnt that apply to all modes? why not ease up the hell difficulty a little?

[winged ocean]

i mean this is rly good change, nico nana is supposed to be the first step to clearing the other infernos, you upgrade your shells for higher stats then you go get furyedge and swiftraid for your dps and then you can do the rest

[strong ferry]

does anybody here know the stats from beta terror/nico vs post nerf versions?

[scarlet quartz]

unless u are using any revelation pet

animus*

[tribal osprey]

Doubt anyone will have the exact hp

[fringe delta]

Or using count

[bleak citrus]

glad i got my first terror clear in today

[hexed jay]

you farm niconana to get stronger then clear harder inferno

[dusty dust]

So they really nerfed the easiest infernos ? xd

[upbeat breach]

Problem is that right now it is not just about stats, it is about having X or Y unit

[hexed jay]

they don't need to nerf everything

[twilit vault]

better White Fang from Nico will help with the DPS checks

[tribal osprey]

To be fair it's probably the most stacked of the stages in terms of shells

[strong ferry]

i am also talking about stats like eff res & spd btw would be interesting to see the gigantic gap that most likely still will exist

[twilit vault]

Terror nerf also good because it's one of the most problematic Infernos at the moment

[hexed jay]

They just made it easier to farm the stage that will make your dps a lot stronger

[bleak citrus]

is that from a SSania perspective?

[hexed jay]

It's more of an investment issue for the most part

[fringe delta]

Isn’t SSania team manual

[winged ocean]

you can auto np

[tacit ingot]

I would argue they do. its not like you "clear" the game once you get to inferno. thats when the real grind starts for stats/substats/matrixes/multiple sets for multiple units for pvp.

[upbeat breach]

nico was the easiest for pet and terror is the easiest depending on the team that you have

[tribal osprey]

No

[fringe delta]

Was told it was

[hexed jay]

and that's why you farm to get stronger?

[true trench]

shouldnt doki be the easiest module boss by default

[tacit ingot]

even if everyone could clear all infernos today, they'd still be grinding them for months and months and months for decent sets

[bleak citrus]

both, auto is more investment i believe

[hexed jay]

The goal is not for everyone to clear inferno day 1

[tribal osprey]

My friend only does auto. She has been autoing Nico with Walmart gear for a while

[true trench]

or is this some "akkshually shes the most approachable one, not the easiest one" trick

[fringe delta]

Was talking more about terror

I know Nico can be auto

[tacit ingot]

why not? why is the design "you must waste X days before having fun"?

[abstract pier]

they should just give us more resources/lattices to build our units. the is the biggest hurdle right now

[hexed jay]

you can auto terror with ssania lily

[hexed jay]

because that's how every gacha works?

[bleak citrus]

fair enough, terror being the easiest is a wild take without SSania imo

[finite palm]

Why did they not post in announcement? Either way this is a really good start, HOPEFULLY now we can farm these stages first to get inferno gear then we can use that yo farm other stages

[hexed jay]

they want you to keep playing for as long as possible

[upbeat breach]

can also auto terror with just sania

[upbeat breach]

if you have veronika terror is easier, if you have lily doki is easier

[tacit ingot]

any argument beside that?

[pure junco]

Told you guys there would be at least a couple knights showing up soon

[hexed jay]

it's not an argument, it's a known fact

[scarlet quartz]

you should suffer, that's just how it works! yes yes

[fringe delta]

Is terror inferno only possible with Ssania

[upbeat breach]

no...

[fringe delta]

That’s all I see

[upbeat breach]

first clear was good old dps comp

[winged ocean]

no but it's SIGNIFICANTLY lower gear req

[tacit ingot]

but its a really lousy fact. "all gachas are waste X weeks/moths before you earn the right to have fun". why?

[scarlet quartz]

Khloros Diting works I'm not sure u can solo diting without lily even with 20% less hp

[hexed jay]

I mean if you're not having fun to begin with then why keep playing? The uninstall button is free to click

[scarlet quartz]

Otherwise one terror run is just gonna take 50 years

and it's still miserable

[scarlet quartz]

You are surely interested in the long term health of the game

[hexed jay]

It's really how every gacha works. That's why there are daily quests

[bleak citrus]

that would be the next step down from SSania yes, but doki is still easier and more accessible. but it doesn't matter 🤷‍♂️

[tribal osprey]

@pure junco I just got a bingo

[tacit ingot]

because I thought it was a PVP game?

[hexed jay]

and it is?

[acoustic ivy]

i love my 50 year clear on terror

[upbeat breach]

doki is accessible with lily....

[pure junco]

Someone said it. Bingo!

[tacit ingot]

until you get good PVE sets, no, it kinda isnt

[hexed jay]

and that's how every PVP gacha works

Welcome to PVP gaccha

[scarlet quartz]

except they dont make u go through this type of misery

[winged ocean]

it's a resource managment game centered around pvp, you can get to pvp day one it's relative to what the others are doing you don't need endgame gear to fight people if they don't have endgame gear either

[scarlet quartz]

trying to get your sets up

[bleak citrus]

i can do both turn 1 with mio or more reliable with lingluo, both sets don't use lily

[hexed jay]

It's only been 2 weeks 😂

[arctic plover]

but they do

[hexed jay]

they're already nerfing some stuff

[scarlet quartz]

2 weeks of full refreshing, yes

[hexed jay]

no one's forcing you to refresh

[pure junco]

And every PvP Gacha has QOL ways of making it more optimal

[upbeat breach]

rilmocha comp with beyontin buffing?

[tacit ingot]

"you expect to have PVP fun after only 2 weeks? lol" myeah

[fringe delta]

If you don’t refresh you are so behind it’s crazy

[finite palm]

Are people not happy with the changes? I think it's a great step in the right direction but nobody else seems excited lol

[warped dune]

Wait they nerfed inferno?

[bleak citrus]

Rilmocha with Yang

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[scarlet quartz]

terror and nico

[tribal osprey]

2 of them

[upbeat breach]

terror and nico for now

[warped dune]

Damn

Crazy

[sour lotus]

is that why I keep going against people with multiple full star'd dpses that have entire teams so speedy I can't even get a single turn while they're already lapping me?

[scarlet quartz]

u say for now but we have no idea if they are gonna continue

[hexed jay]

A lot of pvp gacha has really bad QoL at release of games. Most of them come months/years after the game has released

[scarlet quartz]

So why support that

[pure junco]

It is. But people originally wanted specific inferno nerf, not this

[sour lotus]

I hate this argument

[tribal osprey]

Continue to monitor

[tacit ingot]

is there anyone in this thread who hasn't been perma refreshing? have they even reached niconana lvl35 at this point?

[bleak citrus]

and kloss, tbf so it is 2 RGB SSR's is your gate

[upbeat breach]

skill issue if you cant quad roll speed on every piece

[scarlet quartz]

Why do we compare this new game trying to disrupt the space with the state of other games that came out 10 years ago

[sour lotus]

"games 10 years ago were bad so that's why this game is bad too"

[scarlet quartz]

yeah its a terrible argument

[hexed jay]

It's not even supporting that idea. I'm just saying that it's how it is in every gacha similar to this game.

[sour lotus]

like can we not pretend like gachas are in a vacuum?

[tribal osprey]

Nah I am

[acoustic ivy]

wait did they? can you show me the spot, i remember something about nico but it wasnt for inferno

[sour lotus]

how about being better than what came before you

[scarlet quartz]

https://x.com/etheria_restart/status/1937483151171027350

Etheria: Restart (@etheria_restart)

💥Inferno - NicoNana & Terrormaton have received slight difficulty reductions!
Come test your skills—but don't be mistaken, they're still inferno tier for a reason. Clearing them? You'll need strategies sharp as ever!
💥Inferno-NicoNana (Grim Pursuit) nerfs: HP -10%,SPD-10%,

X · Jun 24, 2025, 12:09 PM

[tacit ingot]

"all other gachas make you waste your time before having fun, why would you want this game to be any different?"

[sour lotus]

instead of being shit like everyone else

[hexed jay]

Yes, nerf everything so that everyone can clear everything in just one day

[scarlet quartz]

the people that actually gonna stick with this game are going to have to farm inferno difficulty daily for however this game stays alive

[finite palm]

Wdym by "specific inferno"? You mean the hardest ones like Aurora, Hoyan or Rengo?

[hexed jay]

That's fun to you?

[sour lotus]

"e7 was shit on launch 50 years ago so that's why Etheria is shit on launch too"

[pure junco]

Mhm

[sour lotus]

like bro what

[scarlet quartz]

there is no need to make the barrier of entry that high

it's useless

[hexed jay]

Except this game is already tons better compared to E7 launch LOL

[tribal osprey]

It's pvp.

[scarlet quartz]

At launch, not now for new players

which should be the bar?

[hexed jay]

Doesn't mean you should beat and achieve everything in one day,

[final cliff]

Awesome

[indigo oyster]

put the fries in the bag and go play honkai star buck bro

[final cliff]

DEV LISTENED..

[tribal osprey]

You can't beat everything. It's pvp. It's an endless cycle. Look at mobas

[hexed jay]

???? We're all new players here LOL

[finite palm]

Personally I kinda like this change cause now we can farm some of the easier infernos for gear to then hopefully tackle those

[tacit ingot]

my point was, even if you could clear everything, you'd still be grinding for the rest of the game for that rare rare rare good gear for ALL units for the PVP. you know, to have multiple units for proper PVP fun? you literally would NEVER be done anyway

[hexed jay]

Even non PVP gachas are like this 😂

It's the cycle

Like I said

[scarlet quartz]

ever seen someone missing an SR for people missing diting being able to do Niconana now changes nothing with only revelation dps

[hexed jay]

They want you to keep playing the game

[scarlet quartz]

so they should focus on the parts people are gonna stick to this game for?

[indigo oyster]

i dont remember honkai star rail. railing me left right front back up and down just to farm gear

[scarlet quartz]

and not make inferno ballcrushing?

[tacit ingot]

thats my point!!! so why make us grind shit gear if we'll still be grinding "good" gear forever anyway?

just to waste more time?

[strong ferry]

there r multiple tactics from companies to drive engagement that way:

• pain funneling (slow/grindy things that can be circumvented by paying up)
• game loop manipulation (insert hindrances that can be overcome with time
• progress gating (gating the best/main part of the game behind unenjoyable/difficult content

all these r used & balanced to the best of their ability where the community can bear with it

[hexed jay]

Yes, which is farming everyday to get stronger

[tribal osprey]

Bro why u trying to compare launches. We aren't time traveling to compete with e7 in 2018

[hexed jay]

Like I said, they want you to keep playing

[final cliff]

Inferno-NicoNana (Grim Pursuit) nerfs: HP -10%,SPD-10%, Skill [Friendly Match] additional DMG Reduction adjusted to 60% (from 90%)
💥Inferno-Terrormaton(Threshold) nerfs: 20% HP reduction across

[pure junco]

True. I personally never struggled with Niconana, only Sharon. But it is what it is. Not everyone will be satisfied, and not every change is the most optimal but at least something happened

[scarlet quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279939366684332042/1326991857972019211/attachment.gif

[hexed jay]

This is like every gacha in existence

[sour lotus]

play better games

[tacit ingot]

yep. its a scummy p2w tactic. the stupid part is people trying to justify it. "yeah they rim me from behind. but its not that bad. everoyne else takes me from behind too"

[sour lotus]

if this is your take

[hexed jay]

Tell that to the people who are complainig

[indigo oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-ragebait-this-guy-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-3966857531535969686

[hexed jay]

Tbh you're part of the problem by playing this game

[uncut mica]

that Nico nerf will take her down to 220/221 speed and mean anyone above 260 will deal full damage down from 245 and 305

[hexed jay]

😂

[scarlet quartz]

Ever seen people miss an SR even after tons of pulling? For people not having diting being able to just farm NicoNana changes nothing for the dmg checks

[sour lotus]

me specifically?

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/devs-listened-wuwa-genshin-could-never-gif-6459591100973185639

[sour lotus]

insein

I ruined Etheria it was me

[pure junco]

Yep

[hexed jay]

Yeah it's insane how they copied what every other gachas do out there

It's not like it's proven to not work

[strong ferry]

believe it or not gachas have the most generous and accepting communities. not even 1/3 of this shit would fly in most other genres & companies know that

[bleak citrus]

thanks for the numbers

[upbeat breach]

Will also make it a lot easier to cycle the full damage

[tacit ingot]

I remember a certain moba making you grind for PVP runes that increased your stats. they removed that mechanic entirely.

[pure junco]

It's cool that Etheria Restart is similar to every Gacha in existence

Wow

[indigo oyster]

what its like reading this thread

[hexed jay]

I know right! Almost as if it's a gacha game!

[tacit ingot]

yeah, its kinda crazy. the only real explanation is that they know they're farming legit addicts so it doesnt matter

[scarlet quartz]

Except new gachas need to be better

and we have a right to expect them to be

[sour lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/colts-indianapolis-colts-dashawn-dashawndontplay-comebackcolts-gif-12298488741851068567

[hexed jay]

you are playing the wrong game if this is your expectation

😂

[errant dome]

nerfs came too late, i already missed 2 days and decided to quit

GL in your next project

[final cliff]

Ken u still here Bruvs

[pure junco]

Next time someone loads up Duel Links, they'll think "Etheria is best at the tcg scene" 😂

[sour lotus]

true we should all stop playing so it EoS

[errant dome]

eos before 2026

[sour lotus]

yea bro lol

[tacit ingot]

so basically the argument is "you want gachas to not f^%$ you in the @$$? lol"

[gilded mason]

He's a masochist, leave him be

[final cliff]

Maybe controversial, I kinda enjoy this game tbh, this pretty fresh 😎

[uncut mica]

Threshold for a speed downed Nico is also now 215 without a speed buff or 165 with one meaning even the vast majority of units can full damage her with a speed buff/debuff on a regular mythic shell with a purple passive

[strong ferry]

having higher standards is as natural as capitalism. u expect a better product for the newer thing whcih requires more benefits for the consumer. competition is literally everything

[arctic plover]

"But the competitors don't fuck you in the ass"
"But they did so in 1842"

[tribal osprey]

Ah yes, the great fuckening of 1842

[final cliff]

Bruv it’s gacha, if it’s not gonna fk u, then it’s chess ♟️

Even monopoly fk u in the back hahaha

[uncut mica]

Wait that's wrong take like 20 speed off each of them since I forgot to reduce the damage % from 90 to 60

[sour lotus]

I like the game too lol I just want it fixed

[pure junco]

Wouldn't you still need to speed tune some units for her though?

[hexed jay]

I know that. But expecting to beat everything in day 1 just because "but it's a pvp game" is such an insane take

That's just not how it works

[pearl knot]

they only counter on the app of it sometimes

[scarlet quartz]

It's more reasonable than expecting people to spend 8 hours a days farming cause they are missing key units

[arctic plover]

there is a difference between expecting to beat "everything" and expecting to beat the gear farming stages

[gilded mason]

It doesnt have to work the same way as old gachas man

[indigo oyster]

at least when i get fked i can still farm gear of the highest content in other gacha game

[hexed jay]

Who farms 8 hours a day LOL

Sounds like a you problem

[uncut mica]

As always more speed is better but a speed downed Niconana will take full damage from a 195 (I forgot about the nerf from 90 to 60% initial DR) Which is easily reachable for full DPS gear without a speed buff on them

[scarlet quartz]

that's how long it would take to use up your stamina with "accessible" teams

[hexed jay]

You probably don't know how player retention works

[strong ferry]

not defending that just that people have a brain and can compare products. naturally those providing more benefits will result in comments like that. the solution might however not be what people will agree on.

[gilded mason]

Yeah people finish everything too fast -> bored -> quit

[scarlet quartz]

finish what

farming inferno endlessly?

[gilded mason]

Exactly

[scarlet quartz]

there is no finish to farming gear

[gilded mason]

thats why his point is flawed

[scarlet quartz]

it's stupid

ye

[arctic plover]

even if by some miracle you can't farm the highest dungeon lvl (which would be massive skill issue, but let's have it slide) the sets would still drop on the second highest even if with smaller droprate.

It's the first time where I see an entire being gatekept and entire fixed stats increase via shells.

[pure junco]

Aha. I see. You've given me an idea for a team I may try later for faster time, thanks

[hexed jay]

That's literally the point 😂

[indigo oyster]

yeah lol

[hexed jay]

Same thing with shells

[gilded mason]

im glad my veronika team will be able to farm terro safely

[pure junco]

At least Terro a little bit slower now

[indigo oyster]

not slow, only hp nerf

[pure junco]

Oh well

[gilded mason]

hp nerf is good enough

[scarlet quartz]

surely Lian can clear inferno now right

(nope)

[uncut mica]

20% HP nerf is pretty freaking huge tbh

[tribal osprey]

Yep

[gilded mason]

What's a lian

[upbeat breach]

Yep, now we wont deal 0 damage if the speed up buff is down

[distant wedge]

y’all still crying?

[tribal osprey]

I think he meant to type yeli

[hexed jay]

of course

[pure junco]

The unit that clears EVERYTHING 🤡

[hexed jay]

the complaining should never stop

until we beat everything in day 1

[gilded mason]

We're humans, we complain

its natural

[uncut mica]

that's by more than they buffed it between beta and release (was ~15%) which is funny

[graceful juniper]

atleast some start

[scarlet quartz]

I like that, Dimi is definitely not human

[gilded mason]

Maybe AI

[scarlet quartz]

or Jack on an alt

[tribal osprey]

I thought they increased it by 2.5 from beta

[gilded mason]

test him with the captcha

[indigo oyster]

a ragebaiting ai created by jack

[hexed jay]

First time pvp gacha players 💀

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/text-captcha-puzzle-shaking-moving-gif-14758823

[pure junco]

Lmao this again

[sour lotus]

de83jwe

[indigo oyster]

took too long - denied

[sour lotus]

I am real unlike Jack

NO RUMORS GUYS

[gilded mason]

breh i've played turn based gacha for more than a decade

[hexed jay]

I heard a rumor they're nerfing everything so we can beat everything in a single day is that true?

[pure junco]

Still going

[gilded mason]

I've gone though e7 hell at release

I clicked wyvern for hours every day because there was no auto

i still want this game to be better than that'

[scarlet quartz]

Yeah we should honestly remove repeat battle from etheria

good point

[pure junco]

🤣 I feel ya

[hexed jay]

It's already a lot better tho 😂

[scarlet quartz]

not better than e7 now

[gilded mason]

and that shit pet system

[atomic cradle]

https://vxtwitter.com/etheria_restart/status/1937483151171027350?s=19

Etheria: Restart (@etheria_restart)

💥Inferno - NicoNana & Terrormaton have received slight difficulty reductions!
Come test your skills—but don't be mistaken, they're still inferno tier for a reason. Clearing them? You'll need strategies sharp as ever!
💥Inferno-NicoNana (Grim Pursuit) nerfs: HP -10%,SPD-10%, Skill [Friendly Match] additional DMG Reduction adjusted to 60% (from 90%)
💥Inferno-Terrormaton(Threshold) nerfs: 20% HP reduction across Terrormaton,Reform - Attacking Hand and Reform - Guarding Hand

QRT: etheria_restart
Etheria: Restart Update Patch Note

Dear Hyperlinkers,

To provide an enhanced adventure experience, Etheria Restart will undergo server maintenance on June 25, at 03:00 AM (UTC-5). During this period, Hyperlinkers will be temporarily unable to access the game. We kindly ask everyone to plan their gaming time accordingly.

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vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 24, 2025, 12:09 PM

[turbid ridge]

they nerf terror and nico. if they keep revelation how it is than doki is possible aswell.

[true trench]

🐌

[scarlet quartz]

Nico doesnt help you if u dont have diting since he is realistically the only good whitefang user

[hexed jay]

Comparing a 7 year old game to a game that just launched 💀

[carmine palm]

just farm your 4 artisans bro

[hexed jay]

Does E7 have gear loadouts yet

[scarlet quartz]

yes

that's what we should be doing

[wary fractal]

Now u can get nico down to 40% hp instead of 50%

[scarlet quartz]

the nico nerf is actually the good one of the two

[white veldt]

you know what, its something
it doesnt solve everything but its something at least 🫡

[strong ferry]

comparing games. dont see the problem with that if its the same genre

[half lodge]

That's what progress is dude

[uncut mica]

so Terror's new HP will be ~500k a reduction of more than 125k

[tribal osprey]

It's funny, but you should be able to clear it now

[white veldt]

the terror nerf seems meh af

[turbid ridge]

dots nerfd

[graceful juniper]

it has less speed too...so you can use lesser spd gear chasing

[scarlet quartz]

nah Lian clears now

[wary fractal]

i quit 2 days ago, just gtting rid of some salt i have left

[scarlet quartz]

pretty sure dots stay the same

[turbid ridge]

yeah they do

[gilded mason]

yeah lian can clear out of my box

[turbid ridge]

its a joke

[white veldt]

dot doesnt care about HP changes

[scarlet quartz]

dot being too strong was never an issue

everything else just sucked

hp helps for the khloros diting team, sure

[turbid ridge]

well now you know keep playing or leave its up to the ppl who waited for changes

[scarlet quartz]

i dont think it enables any reasonable alternatives

[distant wedge]

still crying

[surreal bobcat]

the irony is, with the health nerfs you still needs the same number of dots as before to kill

[gilded mason]

thats what makes it great

[hexed jay]

yes so dot teams nerfed

[turbid ridge]

we alrdy saw new comps come out that can clear it

[scarlet quartz]

a bit less due to more weight to natural ability damage

[spice talon]

thats not irony thats just literally how percentages work lmao

[hexed jay]

ssania buff when?

[gilded mason]

dot still usable, but now other teams can do it with higher success rate

[tribal osprey]

It's not nurfed. You're still clearing the same time

[true trench]

yeah dont think my lilyless massiah is clearing (this is not an complaint)

[hexed jay]

it was a joke but I guess you didn't get it

[turbid ridge]

instead of nerfs they should give out more ressoruces to pivot to new units (or reset event for the first month free)

[scarlet quartz]

what new units that clear this

[surreal bobcat]

bUt mY dOt TeAm

[bleak citrus]

where are you getting the beta number from? just curious the terror increase feels alot higher than 15%

[turbid ridge]

what about that hoyan nuke

[bleak citrus]

i guess if they buffed it's other stats as well that will also make it feel worse

[turbid ridge]

cachi came out and made other stages possible

[scarlet quartz]

yeah by adding 2 mins on top of all of them

[turbid ridge]

its just impossible to pivot to those units with the limited amount of lattice/prints

[scarlet quartz]

which jus makes it disgusting to get done day by day

[hexed jay]

Gachi was available day 1 😭

[glass ruin]

so how big is the terror nerf?

[scarlet quartz]

20%

[fringe delta]

20%

[uncut mica]

I was a bit mistaken it was an increase from ~450k (using creator server videos) to ~635k and now it'll be ~500k

[carmine palm]

20% but hp only

[fringe delta]

Yeah

[glass ruin]

i assume diting alone still cant clear it right

[fringe delta]

Maybe with lily

[uncut mica]

My memory had it at 550k in the beta

[upbeat breach]

just run diting+lian

[pure junco]

Maybe he can now

[glass ruin]

lian haha

[pure junco]

20% is a big chunk of hp

[carmine palm]

But what other stats did they change from beta? speed, damage, defense? do we know that?

[fringe delta]

Just wait until tomorrow and see

[gilded mason]

dont forget gray and marvell

[tribal osprey]

Lian stonks rising

[scarlet quartz]

I can assure you he cant

[upbeat breach]

as long as the dps is not blue it should work

[surreal bobcat]

if you turn your diting into Ssania, then yes he can

[gilded mason]

gray marvell lian, the old trinity

[upbeat breach]

nerfed victor to the rescue

[distant wedge]

lol

[bleak citrus]

wonder if there are any lian believers left that will clear it. haven't seen any lian runs for inferno

[scarlet quartz]

inferno?

make that hell

[gilded mason]

i think lian might be able to do hell

[pure junco]

Guess with the new changes, you'll be able to recalculate damage numbers, stats, and turn meters. That'll help build a more consistent team even if a little bit

[gilded mason]

but its not going to be easy

[fringe delta]

What about inferno Nico can diting clear it

[scarlet quartz]

should be able to now

yeah

[fringe delta]

I mostly see Rosa and ssania

[gilded mason]

I believe lian was designed with her being a terromaton counter in mind

like rilmocha

[scarlet quartz]

I think lian was forgotton with nothing in mind

[gilded mason]

yeah

[fringe delta]

Inferno shell stages are still absolutely horrible in terms of drops

[gilded mason]

devs were shook when they saw marvell gray lian clearing terro inferno

[uncut mica]

He can clear it now if you build him Swiftrush + Keeneye. With these changes so long as you have a speed debuffer you'll be able to build full damage Diting and still do max damage

[upbeat breach]

the thing is that they buffed khloros two times in a row, so no way she can compete

[pure junco]

But people think since she's a starter, she'd be useless. Guess that's that.

[gilded mason]

Well they're right now

she is useless

[hexed jay]

Almost as if that didn't happen to every gacha starter. Shocker, right?

[uncut mica]

tbf what killed the Lian Marvel Terror kill wasn't the stat changes but the -turn meter reduction buff

that comp killed by only letting terror take like one turn ever

[scarlet quartz]

Idk these nerfs are a big letdown, maybe i expected too much with inferno being able to be cleared by a reasonable set of units, with margin to swap things out (like it was in the beta) but hey

[gilded mason]

yup the turn meter reduction buff

and marvell nerfed

RIP

[hexed jay]

Yeah they need to give us 1000 pulls as compensation

This is very unacceptable

[pure junco]

Mmm not exactly. Because starters from many gachas are pretty good

[uncut mica]

You'll see a much, much larger set of units for both with lower gear investments and then using the gear from these push those units into other content

[ornate moth]

Ah I see you have shadow sania lol

[bleak citrus]

yeah 20% off is pretty big

[gilded mason]

does he?

[bleak citrus]

spd and damage reduction for nico too, that's what my issue was

[hexed jay]

Most starters are not even used a month after a game's release

[pure junco]

He probably just loves the game

[gilded mason]

stockholm syndrome

[hexed jay]

I don't even have her 😭

[scarlet quartz]

lmao

[ornate moth]

educated guess, every time someone talks about ppl being entitled wanting to clear endgame so quickly they have shadow sania and are just wanting to maintain their advantage

[scarlet quartz]

or they are crazy in the head

50 50

[green magnet]

are the nerfs already implemented now?

[gilded mason]

no not yet

[hexed jay]

🪞

[tiny sage]

So...

[pure junco]

🤷‍♂️ From my experience they do. I'm other cases they don't when it's not a character driven Gacha. Not even trying to argue here

[gilded mason]

Dimi throwing shade

[tiny sage]

Ngl

Shit Nerfs

[hexed jay]

game dead eos

yes serra we know

[tiny sage]

Thats my TedTalk

[scarlet quartz]

good tedtalk

[green magnet]

yea just read the update thread, i see now its on the maintenance

[pallid rose]

why is bad?

[green magnet]

ty

[scarlet quartz]

would attend again

[pure junco]

😂

[gilded mason]

game is dead btw

[tiny sage]

The Terror Nerf to HP MIGHT Let some non Sania Clears

[toxic coral]

20% is quite a lot of hp ngl

[gilded mason]

i can clear it now

without ssania

but its like 50% win rate

[scarlet quartz]

Then u are able to clear terror and niconana and u can get whitefang who do u put whitefang on without diting?

[hexed jay]

Yet you're here as well 😂 ironic

[gilded mason]

I'm hoping for a brighter future

[carmine palm]

Hopefully it's the first of several patch note updates, because it'd be weird to only touch 2/7 of the infernos.

[gilded mason]

I dream of a future where any man, no matter how poor, can build a team and clear inferno with his favorite units

[pure junco]

😅 Dimi arguing with everyone here probably isn't healthy, just move on man

[scarlet quartz]

he is getting a kick out of it

[gilded mason]

he may be a masochist

[green magnet]

ngl I feel like I would've enjoyed seeing the guarding hand hp going down more instead of 20% across

[pure junco]

Definitely a lot easier that way

[gilded mason]

does anyone evn care about the hands in inferno

just rush the body and kill it

[green magnet]

its not even terror himself thats the problem, its that theres no point in killing the hands (but maybe with the hp nerf, killing the left hand will be more viable?)

[green magnet]

ye thats what i'm sayin

[gilded mason]

ah the old strat

[tiny sage]

Cause Already invested and I will be invested until the escape time has ran out

Cause I love this game and want it to be good

[hexed jay]

Basically everyone in here

[green magnet]

cause currently it feels like if you waste any turns (to kill EITHER hand, that is) in inferno, you'll die no matter what because of the damage stacking

and you can't push back as easily now too

[carmine palm]

I don't think they want to nerf Terror too much, so they can showcase Yeli there

[pure junco]

I'd assume if you could build a follow-up team, Terro would be a walk in the park, theoretically speaking

[tiny sage]

But once again anytime Devs have time to think they don't do shit.

[gilded mason]

Its the damage stacking

[uncut mica]

hand route is probably a lot more viable now for slower clear teams. but if you can burst the hand down in a reasonable amount of time you can probably manage the main body with another rotation

[gilded mason]

on every single boss

[tiny sage]

Only when they do kneejerk reactions do they do anything worthwhile

[carmine palm]

yea but -20% hp takes 5 seconds of development time, way easier to AI prompt

[gilded mason]

The damage stacking is probably their way to prevent people from just bringing 3 healer 1 dps and tanking it down lol

[hexed jay]

And that's fine to do, as long as people don't have unrealistic suggestions and expectations

[strong ferry]

honestly this is whats worst for most gacha games

[tiny sage]

Thats why they killed my Girl Veronika

[pure junco]

Yeah. Seems that way

[tiny sage]

[bleak citrus]

veronika still works

[green magnet]

I feel like this just made fast clears stronger, and the stacking will prevent people from doing it the slow way regardless

[tiny sage]

Nah you can't do 30 minute safe clears anymore

[scarlet quartz]

True, again they had to push out some notice after fucking up

[tiny sage]

Fucking waste of a Selector right before the Nerfs

[scarlet quartz]

it's actually laughable

[tiny sage]

[hexed jay]

only if you can kill terror fast enough, which seems a lot more possible now with the HP reduction

[scarlet quartz]

If u have Lily or Khloros, yes

[pure junco]

😅 30 minutes...

[true trench]

i honestly dont see why. maybe they really care about the players physical wellbeing 😭

[arctic plover]

the def might also be changed

[upbeat breach]

veronika is still the best in slot for damage comps

[tiny sage]

GIVE ME MY TARGETTED SUMMON BACK YOU BASTARDS I WOULDN'T Have PICKED VERONIKA IN THIS SHITTY STATE

[bleak citrus]

yeah i agree, she does that now, the problem for most will be the fast enough

[tiny sage]

[green magnet]

yea maybe Khloros will be more viable in Inferno Terror now

[true trench]

justice for turtle teams

[gilded mason]

It kills variety

[hexed jay]

diting can also work

[tiny sage]

She lost 5000% Value after the Nerf

[hexed jay]

maybe dps holden as well

[strong ferry]

bet reverting bosses how they used to be would actually kill somebody in the dev team. stakes r high, arms r sweaty, ...

[tiny sage]

[true trench]

how? proper teams clearing in 2 mins will always be more popular than 15min turtles because of the sheer time commitment

[tiny sage]

I want Celince

[scarlet quartz]

not solo

[upbeat breach]

To me that is actually a big point too, so many wasted selectors because of the changes from beta to launch and now from launch to something else

[hexed jay]

and that's fine since he's a SR

[gilded mason]

i mean you can just auto and close the game, most people will run out of crystals for refreshing soon

[uncut mica]

Yeah but I'd need to replicate stats to within a reasonable margin to figure out by how much with any certainty and I CBA. If Antillar wants to bother with that I say let him go for it

[upbeat breach]

How she lost 5000% value when she is the best option for terror? She is also amazing in pvp

[scarlet quartz]

we should not require some specific SSRs to clear inferno

[pure junco]

😅 Even 7 mins is too long for me... I would jump off a cliff then auto farm 20 mins at a time

[scarlet quartz]

especially when we get Lian for free

?

[gilded mason]

Forget about lian

[arctic plover]

every video recorded on the CC server was obsolete on release, and arguably harmful to everyone who watched it and planned around it.

[gilded mason]

she's dead

[hexed jay]

I didn't even say anything about that 😭

[upbeat breach]

Yep, it is just bizarre. Imagine having a test server to help people during launch just to find out all the info they gave would fuck you in the ass

[tiny sage]

She isn't the best option for Terror.

She is a good option

but I don't need her

[gilded mason]

who do you use?

hein?

[true trench]

So turtle team will kill variety because they can auto kill bosses in 10-15mins compared to good teams doing the auto in 1-2 mins? did i misunderstand something

[scarlet quartz]

Hein

[tiny sage]

Holden

[green magnet]

actually this is a good point

[upbeat breach]

She dispells and negate full damage, how in the hell she is not the best option

Holden cant do what she does

[green magnet]

though on 2x events, i'd say otherwise

[pure junco]

Who are the top options for Terro if you're being absolutely optimal?

[bleak citrus]

DPS route?

[tiny sage]

She is still good but not selector good

[gilded mason]

no, im saying the damage stacking on bosses forces people to go full damage and burst the boss, but if there wasnt damage stacking, people could come up with other strats like tank teams

[green magnet]

before and after nerf I still think DoT team will be better than Burst/DPS

[arctic plover]

We had 5ish people who play beta write a guide for our e7 guild, and most of it was heavily questionable after the buff.

Who knew we were supposed to tell people to reroll for sania/lily or don't even try

[hexed jay]

it will still be faster yes

[tiny sage]

yes DoT teams still better.

[pure junco]

Lol why?

[true trench]

i thought you were disagreeing so i was confused. my bad

[pure junco]

Yes

[gilded mason]

i do admit tank teams arent the best for fast clear but i think players would like to have more options

[hexed jay]

It's because the beta only lasted for 12 days. Beyond that no one really knew how the game will progress

[arctic plover]

no, we had tips for inferno 😄

[gilded mason]

the current boss design doesnt allow it

[snow gust]

It's hard to be creative in team building

[hexed jay]

Yes and again we only had 12 days

[gilded mason]

Yeah you need to kill the boss before it scales and kills you

but you cant scale lmao

[bleak citrus]

Khloros/Diting/Dinah/Freya/Veronika

[hexed jay]

We knew ssania was good for terror, but beyond that we didn't know much

[pure junco]

Didn't they juice up the bosses compared to the beta versions, because the testers said they were easy?

[gilded mason]

And also why tf is there "clear time" in a turn based gacha wtf

[main elm]

should rename this thread to ER doomsday scenario

it's way too schizo

[bleak citrus]

your dps options are really only those 2 & lian, but lian won't have the numbers

[main elm]

[vestal silo]

They really nerfed the easiest grim pursuit. And not the other 2 that is basically impossible without DoT or Lily.

[main elm]

which one they nerfed

[vestal silo]

Nico

[gilded mason]

i guess you farm nico for some shells so you can use some of the inferno sets

[vestal silo]

It's in the news

[main elm]

[hexed jay]

People really want this game to be as easy as genshin 😭

[main elm]

indeed easiest, u don't even need SSania for that

[gilded mason]

but only diting really uses white fang lmao

[pure junco]

Oho. That's a pretty good line up

[gilded mason]

yeah thats the team

but a lot of rng

if veronika strip fails = dead

[main elm]

they have a point on inferno, it's unnecessary difficult, I do clear them but I also have a life, don't want to spend 10hrs to finish my stamina on this shit

[uncut mica]

probably Veronica on Codex, Khloros, Beyontin, Dinah on Codex, Diting. That turn order will mean Beyontin should push Khloros and he'll still have the crit damage buff up for his third turn but would die to a slap as he would lose the soul ward so would need to be a fast team

[gilded mason]

if dinah no land def break = dead

if arm dispells def break = dead

[pure junco]

Right. RNG is this game's bread and butter

[gilded mason]

too much rng

[full delta]

are the people here happy about terror and nico nerfs

[bleak citrus]

it's very high investment rn, will be better after nerf

[hexed jay]

yes but beyond that there's just so much asburd and unrealistic asks lmao

[main elm]

they didn't nerf Rengoku prob they didn't even lvl up to 55 to see it, clueless devs

[gilded mason]

https://tenor.com/view/pour-drink-pouring-alcohol-respect-gif-9283896756814937503

[true trench]

im not smart enough to say without trying them ingame so gonna hold off the judgement until tomorrow

[vestal silo]

I can already farm Nico easily. Matter of fact I could farm that before Doki inferno. No amount of inferno gear gonna help me farming Hoyan on auto without DoT or Lily. They literally nerfed the only boss that was actually do-able without inferno stuff or crazy setups.

[uncut mica]

It doesn't let them full auto 100% with half built units in purple gear so no

[full delta]

Is this beta screenshots?

[gilded mason]

I guess we make more noise

[main elm]

nice beta pics

[hexed jay]

yea

[scarlet quartz]

last cbt yes

[gilded mason]

NERF SHADOWFLAME HOE YAN

[main elm]

fake news, shame on u

[scarlet quartz]

2 weeks before launch

[main elm]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-news-trump-gif-22804577

[pure junco]

Cool.

[hexed jay]

back when inferno was on auto when it unlocked

[full delta]

I was about to say yay theres lian clearers and then I remembered it was only a 20% hp nerf

lian aint killing that

[scarlet quartz]

crazy concept

[hexed jay]

yes, let players beat everything day 1

[gilded mason]

Devs only nerf niconana

[full delta]

Devs only reached niconana*

[pure junco]

The high investments may improve in a couple months

[gilded mason]

Isnt this the "give players a drumstick but take back the whole chicken" strat?

[stable dagger]

oh I'm late

[main elm]

they didn't lvl up to 55 to see how ridiculous Aurora and Rengo

[ornate moth]

u have gotta be ragebaiting dude

[gilded mason]

they buffed ALL SHELL BOSSES after last beta didnt they?

[simple galleon]

Dear god, inferno without dot team is unplayable.
Hell 4 kill boss in 3 Hits inferno kill boss 50 hits and they can onhit stun debuf..

[vestal silo]

I can manual Hoyan, but not a chance I gonna slave my life away doing manual Hoyan runs for 2-3h every day.

[main elm]

these 2 are the MOST deserved for a nerf

[tidal arch]

Im here too 🥀

[left snow]

you dont have lily too ?

[gilded mason]

Now they just nerf nico and terro

[full delta]

they giga buffed all inferno content

[gilded mason]

yeah and now they just nerf nico

[pure junco]

I wonder if they'll increase level caps on characters one day

[gilded mason]

ITS THE CHICKEN DRUMSTICK STRATEGY

THEY TOOK THE WHOLE CHICKEN AND GAVE US BACK A DRUMSTICK

[tidal arch]

Nico is lowkey the easiest shell why Nico get a nerf and not the others 🥀

[main elm]

Sharon is harder than Hoyan and Nico
Aurora is harder than Doki and terror

[scarlet quartz]

nah but dont complain

its supposed to be like that

[full delta]

nah its the they haven't reached 55 yet so they dont know aurora, sharon, and rengo inferno difficulty yet

[scarlet quartz]

u wanna clear everything day 1?!

XD

[simple galleon]

Hell yeah let the dot team Player farm auto before even 80% of playerbase clear hell 4..

[gilded mason]

NO

DAY 3

[bleak citrus]

that team will always live an die by the veronika strip though. the Beyontin was a good suggestion, the extra damage over all might put it over the edge if she misses the second strip

[pure junco]

Now even easier lol

[hexed jay]

They are compensating for people with skill issue

[left snow]

hard disagree, sharon is not hard at all

[scarlet quartz]

least paid XD staff on an alt

they aint gonna let u hit lil bro

[tidal arch]

They want us to farm full gygabytes team

[left snow]

hoyan is way harder if you dont have dot then anything else

[hexed jay]

Least copium addicted etheria player

[main elm]

terror nerf, so I can use my almost max imprint Lian again ?

[vestal silo]

It's actually pissing me off. They probably saw that's the only boss majority of the people can farm so they nerfed that. Game fixed.

[scarlet quartz]

sure buddy...

[turbid ridge]

move on if you still cant cope. you aint getting more than this

[stable dagger]

full on resist xD

[scarlet quartz]

keep believing

[pure junco]

Sure

[left snow]

i can auto sharon with good success rate

[ornate moth]

I don’t know if aurora even is harder than terror lol. I can clear inferno aurora but not inferno terror currently

[gilded mason]

I remember fken LILITH did this same thing with their games, they would severly change something, players would get pissed and riot, then they would revert like 20% of the changes and give out some freebies, and many players would forget about it

[left snow]

doing hoyan without dot is like

[pure junco]

Until inferno

[left snow]

💀

[tiny sage]

Never Forget

[left snow]

and hoyan has rev

[scarlet quartz]

that is the tech and some people still like to eat shit it seems

[tiny sage]

[true trench]

can i do niconana with a 248 speed massiah solo dps tomorrow? 😭

[tiny sage]

nope

[hexed jay]

I miss my pre nerf marvell

[full delta]

haahah no

[stable dagger]

without Celin

[tidal arch]

Nerf hoyan 😭 🙏 i NEED jackal guards

[true trench]

fuck me please nerf again

[stable dagger]

without Celin it's pure hell manual

[outer falcon]

Marvell nerf was so unwarranted

[scarlet quartz]

just farm niconana and surely u can clear hoyan after!

somehow...

[gilded mason]

he was kinda op tho

[tiny sage]

I finally got the Hoyan Auto.

[tidal arch]

With my gygabytes

[gilded mason]

the REAL unwarranted thing is buffing all the inferno bosses

[outer falcon]

He's slow as shit, I dunno that it would've mattered anywhere that mattered

[full delta]

I havent even touched inferno hoyan yet. Im sure its easy since I have the units for it but like Im just busy farming nico

[stable dagger]

so many people complained about him bcuz they're always losing to Marvel users lmao

[gilded mason]

INferno hoyan gonna make u its ho

unless u have ssania

[pure junco]

Gotta keep players in check for the 💳💳💳💳💳💳

[tiny sage]

I wish I had Celin instead of this worthless Veronika

[full delta]

I have dot and celince built

[gilded mason]

congrats

u won

[hexed jay]

let's be real, he was completely broken

[full delta]

[hexed jay]

same thing with tiamat

[warped stump]

i saw a team with like fangus celince and regular (not dot) sania doing hoyan

[final cliff]

Marvel against simple epic immunity gear is so useless

[tidal arch]

Bro mio is like the same but better 😭 🙏

[pure junco]

Interesting

[full delta]

Im building cachi for sharon right now tho

[final cliff]

IMMUNITY gear

[full delta]

[ornate moth]

for pvp maybe. She fell off hard in inferno pve and was getting like 15 min clears just like in launch lol

[hexed jay]

That's funniest part 😂

[stable dagger]

early game, late stage of beta it's purely full of Bruisers

[civic relic]

Celince is so broken for hoyan

[full delta]

wait isnt hellkid kinda crazy for sharon? why do people not use him?

[warped stump]

i figure hoyan and rengo are the intentionally giga difficult shell dungeons, so we'll be farming niconana and sharon along with module dungeons to get those

[warped kestrel]

Wrong, Summoners War and E7 - two of this game's biggest competitors, give you everything you need to push into the highest difficulty of the equipment dungeon, because the point of the game is not to beat those basic farming stages, the point is to keep you 10x auto farming them for years to come to minmax substat rolls and compete in PvP. You fail to even understand what these games are about, yet speak so confidently.

[main elm]

also can someone tell me how the FUCK are supposed to buy out literally any event shop while playing everyday ?

[warped stump]

cause those shells are the giga bis endgame shells

[uncut mica]

Fangus, Obol, turn pusher healer also works

[hexed jay]

That's what I've been saying but you know how this community is

[tiny sage]

you arnt

[scarlet quartz]

but 10 years ago they didnt!

[civic relic]

Cachi is better and lower investment

[finite palm]

You're not supposed to, just another weird design choice

[full delta]

this game makes you pick and choose sorry

[tidal arch]

Purple thing instead of red thing is crazy

[pure junco]

There's always a way to fit Obol somewhere huh?

[tiny sage]

Yeah but they not fighting the SW and E7 from 10 years ago

[main elm]

not supposed to, just like we aren't supposed to clear inferno in the 1st 2 weeks AMARITEEEEE?E?E??

[full delta]

my hellkid is already 6 starred and max s3 tho for pvp...

[tiny sage]

[full delta]

[outer falcon]

Marvell would have naturally died out in like a month post launch in PvP

[ornate moth]

not rly I made the same choice

[tidal arch]

Thats crazy

[full delta]

nooo 😭

[vestal silo]

They really worked and discussed about nerfing Nico by 10% HP and speed for a week?! Instead of addressing the other 3 barely clearable bosses. Oh but peeps clear it within 30s with unbuilt DoT heroes + Lily. It's perfectly fine. Literally tone deaf developers.

[scarlet quartz]

in an ecosystem where u have to build cachi the cumguzzler and his whole gang it's not a bad choice

[outer falcon]

Red thing overrated

[gilded mason]

if you wanna summon him just say he isnt real

[main elm]

HEY GUYS, HERE IS EVENT AND INFERNO BOSS REWARDS BUT AAA AAAH U AREN'T SUPPOSED TO GET THEM, JUST WATCH THEM

[civic relic]

He's still goated for that. But pve doesn't really favor multirole characters

[warped stump]

nah, they would have just had to bring strippers with him but atb lock control gameplay is insanely good at human vs human pvp content

[hexed jay]

Aren't we already doing that tho LOL we're already on full auto on whatever we can farm 😂

[tidal arch]

I'm not building that even if i can beat hoyan with him

[stable dagger]

let's be honest this is a thing so new players can catch up

[scarlet quartz]

they will keep monitoring trust

xD

[vestal silo]

[tidal arch]

Can purple thing 6 star a unit?

[full delta]

They probably didn't reach the other bosses yet or probably dont have sufficient data/people complaining about it yet

[vestal silo]

[pure junco]

Monitoring for life

[outer falcon]

He's slow as shit, he'd be dead for turn 1 teams and that was all that made people complain about him

[gilded mason]

They're just testing player reactions

[pure junco]

RIP mods

[full delta]

they aren't going to nerf the hardest bosses first because they want people to catch up

[gilded mason]

If players stop complaining they wont change anything

[stable dagger]

devs mastered the dao of monitoring

[outer falcon]

How many units actually need 6* (the answer may shock you)

[tidal arch]

All of them 🥀 🙏

How many sr needs skill ups

[pure junco]

😅 The laziest part of the Great Dao

[scarlet quartz]

5 star btw

[outer falcon]

All of them!

[vestal silo]

Time to push this thread to 40k comments. Maybe then they will nerf Hoyan by 10% hp too.

[warped kestrel]

No, we aren't full autoing all inferno stages, which drops unique equipment required to be competitive in PvP. There's maybe one or two inferno stages that can be autoed without a team of multiple LD SSRs(Lily/SSania)

[hexed jay]

You auto what you can

[scarlet quartz]

i really like how they are not allowing people to clear on day 1 @hexed jay

[final gust]

So this is where you goon

[ornate moth]

I need way more SRs skilled up than I do 6 star lol. I don’t have shadow sania

[gilded mason]

tHatS hoW itS Supp0Sed to Be

[hexed jay]

Just pull that one much needed SSr called ssania

[arctic plover]

weird kink NGL

[tidal arch]

Me neither but i'm not beating hoyan with any sr 💔

[vestal silo]

I came here to play a PvP game. Not to farm PvE manually for hours every day.

[warped kestrel]

You should be able to auto everything if you've been max refreshing for weeks. We have months worth of progress at this point, and even then, we can't reasonably auto inferno stages that we need to auto to PvP, in a PvP-focused gacha game.

[vestal silo]

But if you wanna play RTA with the same 200 people then GG proceed.

[hexed jay]

Play tekken

[white veldt]

just pick the stuff you want and buy those...

[main elm]

just pull an SSR NikkiManaj

[tidal arch]

O yea

[pure junco]

🤷‍♂️ unfortunately not everyone has the time

[arctic plover]

is nikkimanaj light or dark? do we know her kit?

[tidal arch]

Dark

[gilded mason]

thats racist man

[main elm]

black element

[stable dagger]

luck issue get better

[gilded mason]

Ya'll racist af

😂

[main elm]

I'm not racist, I'm just not color blind

[arctic plover]

if she is rgb she's a must pull

[gilded mason]

rgbtq

[scarlet quartz]

or light

[white veldt]

day 25 of this game being a thing and ppl still dont know the terms "Constant" & "Disorder"

[scarlet quartz]

dogshit

one is light

[tidal arch]

Wtf is a disorder

[scarlet quartz]

one is dark

[gilded mason]

like ADHD man

[white veldt]

do you know what color Reason is?

[indigo oyster]

yellow and purple guys

[gilded mason]

Pink

[tidal arch]

Ahh of course

[viscid shard]

niconana inferno is gonna be piss easy starting tomorrow and you have to farm that for weeks anyways

[arctic plover]

are we supposed to call them CD?
CD ...

[tidal arch]

Reason

[pure junco]

The Webster Dictionary is crying

[gilded mason]

Maybe order and chaos

would be better

[hexed jay]

Good. Now tell this to Jack

[tidal arch]

Black and yellow

[gilded mason]

go summon him

[hexed jay]

no you

[pearl knot]

when the inferno nerfs going live?

[gilded mason]

I dont have enough mana

[arctic plover]

Jack is an AI he isn't real, according to rumors

[uncut mica]

With the patch tomorrow

[white veldt]

Reason, Hollow, Odd, Constant, Disorder

[tidal arch]

Never i hope

[main elm]

best element made was rock paper scissor units in Fantasy war tactics
Rock = red
paper = blue
Scissor = green

[warped kestrel]

That's why we're all here, to remind them of the type of game they're running, since they seem to have forgotten what this is.

[tidal arch]

What is this 🥀

[pearl knot]

who asked

[main elm]

reason odd and all that bullshit, fuk off XD

weirdos

[white veldt]

[tidal arch]

Blue green red

Black and white

[indigo oyster]

we are the beta tester for the chinese people

[arctic plover]

This game has five elements:

Constant, Blue, Fire, Purple, Grass

[tidal arch]

CONSTANT

[stable dagger]

this shi is confusing to remember

[white veldt]

Fire, Air, Wood, Water, Earth

[main elm]

CONSTANINO