#inferno difficulty megathread, happy 100k
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damn and CN already don't fuck with this game
Because if this came out in any of those countries the Truck-Kun would be circling the office faster then an Epic 7 fuck up
imagine having 100x the views on global then you do any of your CN media...
it's cuz they don't have c
when is cn even releasing anyways
cuz like they gonna be like a month behind
at this rate
I mean obviously they wouldn't let this through, don't you see the lack team variety in clears? Can't have too many people using the same unit (Lian)
they gonna release a catch up bundle for 7k rmb

True Fuck anyone who doesn't have 1 of 2 LD units
cn always has the separate ladder, they won't be behind as they can't queue into foreigners at all
Swipe more...
Oh wait you can swipe 6k and not get them
and be behind a f2p luck sack

arent they making it cross region global around the world for rta tho?
me looking at the builds of the fastest clears that are probably on auto
π π
I miss Marvell man
the 2x event was the best thing to happen to this community
rainbow build fangus and ssania outclearing
drag them
wait baldy dropped this already
I'm gonna key Jack's car for making the green kururu stage in ethernet
Broke: Ask for 2x so it can be like the beta and also to build up our stuff
Woke: Ask for 2x so everyone realizes how bad this is
well i don't blame him, i'm about to drop this shit for the same reason 
6 Days ago...
there is smth with chinese law that requires them have a separate server/client I think.
Oo i see
Im giving them till the middle of august to get their shit together
if not im out


this is e7 rn
when u have to manual every inferno shell fight and u get yellow shells 5 times in a row
π€ͺ
very generous time you give em ngl
5 times...
Consumer Protections up to 120 days of purchase

and considering they catfished us with that beta.
and the RTA situation

Youre arguing with someone that just unlocked inferno and is just a contrarian for the sake of it. Save your breath, theres no point.
This was all one giant psyop to rebuild hype for Umamusume global
hey dumbass the issue wasnt blown off the literal workers of xd came in here talked to us and gave the devs information beacuse the thread blew up
Dont type if you dont know shit

I saw the early comments
To me it looked like them blowing it off. and the lack of response since then with other issues being addressed instantly
Nah c literally pinned hella information we gave then gave it to the devs
they will be making changes to inferno
the most correct solution we could think of was lowering how fast the inferno bosses damage scales
while keeping the hp
Believe it when i see it.
Doesn't change how long and tedious they are but limits resets I guess.

The point is to make it autoable first
nothing is autoable without shadow sania lily
even then some of them cant
Or they just nerf it back to beta levels where everyone was happy

Why else would they create this thread if they didn't already know the problem? Makes no sense
i dont disagree but the devs think it was too easy
i created this thread brother
not them
the devs when they cooked the Ethernet green kururu and Tiamat fight
U forgot the sharon fight with only yellow and green too and immune to debuff in ethernet rally
The issue is they didnt test progression with the buffs they gave to the bosses
they just nerfed units and slapped fucking hp and damage increases on everthing
and said this should work
Someone cleared inferno terror with no ssania
once again showing the Devs when they use their brains only make mistakes.
when you say someone thats a issue

They never said they will, c has only said that he passed the feedback to the devs
The devs haven't made any response regarding this
Win they are a company they arent gonna ignore this and kill the game
And it's not guaranteed that the devs can even implement the change if some higher ups are forcing it
i mean have some common sense
Good luck for rng to hit Hoyan
people have to clear the content
so restart until hoyan gets hit 
That clear isn't auto-able
You underestimate the devs
They prob using the 2x event to collect data tbh
the game won't die though
XD is good at keeping games alive regardless of if no one plays them
The game is genuinley good they just shit the bed with inferno
and progression
it is what it is
and its not a hard fix
Yep that is the consensus
It won't die, but goodbye to any chance of the Esports scene flourishing with all this PvE gatekeeping. There's a reason games like League became so big. The barrier to entry is just so low that people actually get to experience the fun content, which is PvP.
i just put 2 and 2 togther are u serra from eggys stream gotta be right
The game won't die even if they don't change anything, a lot of people will be pressured to spend even more to progress and some higher ups could be banking on that being more profitable than player retention
I'm only still here because it had a strong foundation and the devs were so good in the beta
More like they're a mod for almost every prominent gacha streamer
they will lose casual playerbase and the game will be nothing but people who spent a fuck ton of money or rerolled for days
and guess waht i spent 1k and dont have shadow sania or lily
Sharon can eat a cock
They already lost the casuals...
imagine that
I'm still here to hope for them to come back from this if they were shitty from the get go I'd be long gone
They will eventually like sw and e7 did
is the guy who spent 3k and still doesn't have them (or at least one of them, I forget) still around? lol
Sw too old now
i mean there is a large amount of them that are still delusional to the issue and they can save them but
up to them
E7 getting too old too
The selling point of this game was its comp pvp and that it as a new game and u could start fresh with everyone else and not have to play 7 year old games if you want gacha pvp
They lost braccs who regardless of how you feel about his video is closer to the casual perspective. and his video is a massive turn off to anyone one who watches him. They lost teccy because spending 4 hours a day manual grinding he said fuck it.
Damn tectone is a huge cc
I love tectone and his opinions but bro was never gonna stick with the game long term
i cant think of one game he has
Yeh I understand that. I tried spending yesterday manual grind modules and today I just don't care anymore
Cookie Run Kingdom but he had to drop it because it was consuming his life...
Crk on top fr
Finger hovering over the uninstall button
if CRK wasn't so greedy with the constant dragon dragon++ beast+3+++3+ rarities and cost it would have been a forever game for me
idk i just joined crk too late
I think the only "MainStream" CCs still playing are Tash/Pokke/Jena/Smack(though he just had a baby so idk where he is atm)
The cc tournament ?
Ohh
The Last time Jenazad won a contest and had a big payout was tribe9...
Hope they get well soon
And these devs do be acting like the tribe9 devs
TribeEOS

Kinda wish some more of these CC's didn't get the lily ssania combo so we could've seen more suffering.
Anyone remember when they announced hoyand and holden banner? Weird no new announcements when banner ends in like 3 days
No one talking about them Removing Earnable Skin in PvP and the LD Pulls from the events....

~2 days before the end of freya
i LOVE how there is like no inferno clear guides on yt beacuse the majoraty of players just cant do it
just leaving this here for inferno aurora incase someone is looking for a team to aim for. not sure if they're still being pinned
its like the biggest viewership for a game is guides
Apparently the ld pulls from the betting event was cuz someone in beta complained the betting was too risky

well we got the "inferno is too easy" clickbait video from trueevil today telling us we need to be patient and max lattice every character before complaining about difficulty, lol
thats what people say here too

nah the thread isnt being montored anymore they ragebaited the community manager and they gave up
while rocking lily ssania themselves, or even better, being stuck in hell3 because they "like to chill"
Yea, c tried
But too many trolls
He gave up
still there for someone if they use search π

Stop giving us false hope its gonna get better
They shoulda kept open beta stats
doesn't this fail if literally anyone other than hoyan gets focused lol
They haven't made 1 positive change since beta
I mean its a cool clip
or not make crazy fkn changes a week before launch

like wtf type shit is that
I mean... shouldnt loose all hope... i lost hope in sw year 1 and look at where sw is now...
praying for next update to be lily+ssania banner, paid only
uuh
Irrelevant

It's really baffling, why even have the beta to test the game if you're gonna make such massive changes on launch
there is like 4 arab princes keeping sw alive rn
they just spend 10m each a year
to keep it up
Damn
To sell rebates
They had the chance to grab more then just the E7 and SW Rejects... 
No wonder com2us kept trying to make new games but failing
They can save the game tho if they give me lily beacuse then ill just delete the post and tell everyone its a skill issue
Honestly the rebate/no reroll thing was probably the biggest red flag that I should have just never bothered lol
Whos?
Etheria's
They had marketing?
OHHH MY GAWWW
Yeah they spam ads like crazy
me with ssania
They had a lot of sponsored ccs from more causual gachas
people watch ads in 2025? damn
I found the game through Gachasmack
they "partnered" with r/gachagaming lol, wonder what they gave the mods
saw the huge streamer bait but nothing much outside of that
lmao
I just found the game on google play pre register games list
And thought eh why not try it and got into beta
My girlfriend told me about this game so shoutout to you @warped grove
π«
They sponsored everyone and their moms they even sponsored Pseychie who had to issue an apology because he damaged his only taking sponsorships from games he likes image
How do people even use Rosa on Aurora without Lily? The uptime on her fua is complete garbage and the boss constantly regains their immunity
tiny farm will always be famous

I can clear hell 4 just from stalling and revelation spam but it's rough
It just sucks the top 100 comp isnt even good players its just gonna be who has shadow sania and lily
cause they are shitting on the players
Anyone knows who is coming in the next banner?
prob a random unit
as a rate up
I use rc77 to extend the duration
new character is the only way to avoid more outrage lol

but it's hell 4 π
this would just piss more people off
meta banner = omg theyre milking us
random non-meta banner = omg where my ssania
Imagine if it was a double new again. I'm huffing copium that because Hoyan and Holden are siblings that's why they dropped at the same time but the devs have a knack for adding more fuel to the fire
New LD = dilute the permanent banner pools even more to lower chances of pulling lily/ssania
That would be interesting to try but am I really gonna raise that unit only to not be able to clear inferno regardless? I can already clear hell 4 even if it's like 2-3 minutes
double RBG and double LD. Hell, make it one of each element to round it out
We have seen the portrait of Yeli and she also appears in Hoyans trailer so I assume she is coming pretty soon
She is also a light unit so idk if they want to release her after Massiah
Can't wait for Yeli to have a critical bug
well we know one thing for sure about Yeli. her skill translations will not match what they actually do
We fixed the critical bug where players were clearing content
Why do they wait until like the last second to give us a preview
yeah, it's not a real recommendation.
I am just saying that rc77 had the best performance for me as he could extend rosa's bloom.
Epic Seven gives us like a 2 week window from preview to release
I think they actually wait until the last second to make the decisions. Everything seems rushed. Like when they post an announcement have to delete/repost/edit it 4-5 times
all those ads generally make 0 sense.
they feel like if somebody asked chatgpt to make an ad.
It's just a mix of buzzwords and a random reference.
Do you have any doubt that the ads are AI based?
They already made their art with chatgpt why not the ads too
It's not really an ad they're just using youtube to push cc videos but the problem comes when the video thumbnail is not a cc soyfacing about something and it has nerf in big letters
The sadistic higher-up that is willing to make the company go bankrupt as long as he can make players suffer with Inferno difficulty:
That's why the Etheria trailer has almost a million views
Because it used the same way to push it out
I don't watch much MrPokke, but he put out a video today about some of the questionable tooltips/translations/potential bugs. Adds more speculation about nerfs, should do well for anxiety
I know they will have to fix it sooner or later, the issue is that the longer they take, the worse off things get. It's not like we're all going to sit around manualing the game for weeks or a month until they decide to do what they have to do
jack's brain trembles
there's like a billion ads saying etheria is a waifu simulator or collector
which is like lol
Jack when I'm done vandalizing ER offices
Bold of you to assume he will be the one wiping the mirrors when he can hire cheap labour with all the beta rebate money
Or maybe he will because he spent all the money on the yacht
@gaunt socket paid for the maid with her whalung
Bold of you to assume he's in the office at all
once the launch spending check hit the bank he probably disappeared to a remote tropical island
Damn guys when did Call of Duty have a level at the Etheria studio
Stay mad
you when I'm done vandalizing ur place
I haven't failed a single run of inferno doki like the last 25 times I watched it auto. But the second I throw it into autobattle and come back I fail like 4x in a row

something isn't adding up
I hacked ur game
if you aren't manualling it, the game director is manualling the doki's side
Here's a more hype concept for the esports scene
Instead of 1v1 draft battles
Both sides show their inferno clears
1 gazillion viewers ez
makes it so that they auto target your dps and kill it past valerian shield 
or just perma cc it
Devs increased your dokidoki's inferno runs difficulty a bit they cant allow you to clear it so easily rn
Lmao
Damn, 3 perfect lattices from finally getting around to RNG'ing through ember trek 42.
you clearly just need to make a one shot comp,check the pins for better teams or swipe for more lattices.
oh you're right

that or kazuyo/kloss/ril get stunned or focussed in wave 2
atk down and gg

damn
I think cachi the guard could be the fix to 100% auto on oneshot comp
2-turn immunity
yes
no problem, i gotchu
im considering swapping to him and replacing both lingluo and freya
what you swapping freya with
chiaki the echo
hmm why what is the difference
aaah okay
ye I run with ril for me cachi is purely for the immunity
to guarantee no debuff
plus chiaki and lilly is just nice
ive been using both ling and freya to stop the debuffs
if i had mio or built kraken, this wouldnt have been an issue 
I currently use: ril, yang, kloss, kaz, ling
so if I replace ling with cachi I should be fine
Speed buff and cooldown reduction, it's basically like having a Lily on my team, surely this can clear inferno right? π
ye
Replacing one right side then I'd imagine
kazami is under rated
wdym?
that cat lol
so funny
She's nice but I have no clue how to transition this team to clear inferno Aurora 
Best I can think of would be like farming a supernova for Linglou
for faster runs, most codex mia and supernova lingluo
the entire fight is a heal check so the better your healing the easier it is
triple healers is also an option with valerian
Is codex better than halloween on Mia for extended fights?
nope
Feels like the constant cd reduction is better especially with Mia and Kazami lowering halloween cd
halloween+timeweave is considerably better in longer fights
damn cachi the guard was what I needed
moves just before the atk down debuff enemy
only rng now is hitting the debuffs properly
well normal rilmocha needs double crit to hit 85%
I run her with only 1 crit currently
30% from yang + 15% from affinity
want to change it to 3x crit dmg instead but don't have good pieces to hit the last bit of crit rate
so thinking of swapping critdmg to crit rate on shell
anyone got an auto inferno team for niconana or threshold without dot
are you willing to build the most piss random R and SR characters
eating away all your purple lattices
this game will eos in a month might aswell
alternatively, my 2 LD 29 golden lattice team autos niconana if you want to go that route
i dont have lily or ssania
but i do have every constant ssr and dupes of dokidoki
cuz fuck me
Cachi the Guard, Vice, Fangus and was it Lingluo? works
how fast
for what
Vice needs the R upgrades and S2 S3 max
nico?
niconana
not 100% success rate tho
send your builds
nothing in this game is 100%, not even this game lasting a month
oh that is not even 10%

They are ungeared rn but when i tried it it was like 270 speed fangus 230 ish cachi lingluo is whatever and Vice was counter speed set 12 8
Nah they have so much money from beta lmao
i was abt to say
so it is technically a dot team
they really putting dot in dot
I tried the same team with rosa
why cachi
i got to like 8x attack buff stacked
on niconana
but rosa deals 0 dmg here
uhhh
he extends def buff
and artisan barrier
and immunity is not bad to have either
he also pushes back and applies speed down
with s2
Btw have you tried Revelation Rosa? Does Rev not bypass Nico damage reduction
It does but without lily u are not outlasting
is fangus spd eff
yea
Yeah needs Lily ofcourse 
XD
ALso even with lily i think it might not be enough
cause its literally only the revelation dmg
rosa is tickling
what should i do for inferno or hell IV threshold (inferno shells aswell)
Hmmm, Xiada probably better but Rosa has speed down
Since Xiada stacks crazy amount of attack
okay so
u give up on terror
meaning u will never get the dps set
furyedge
so your aurora is gonna be painful
probably doable but very painful
u could try solo messiah
i think that works?
not sure it works without lily
idk
hey what is ur massiah team I cant beat inferno
so are we nerfing inferno yet or no?
Dont need Furyedge or anything to clear it
Basically msot Aurora Inferno clears have Lingluo S1 maxed + another healer (preferably Mia)
massiah(white fang) kloss (jackal) freya(artisan) valerian (gigabyte) kazuya (jackal)
it does on doki so prob
man I can clear inferno but it just makes me want to quit
because I dont feel like sitting in inferno for 3h a day
like oh heres 400 stamina to use, a single run will take you 4 minutes though π«‘ cya in 3 hours
hope you dont have a job to do or anything, oh also youll fail like 30% of those so make it 4 hours
and thats when not using 1000 stamina from refresh
inferno makes it such a time investment just to play the game, as opposed to every other farmable level that takes like 40sec-1:30 to clear and is easy to have 100% success rate on, letting me farm it much faster during the day and have to pick up my phone during work less often
its ok either they fix it or lose a LOT of their playerbase this week
so π€·ββοΈ we'll see
yup i agree
problem with fixing late is that once players quit for 3 days, they aint coming back, cuz now theyre even more behind for having quit for 3 days
thats the only reason im not chilling out yet
I want to actually keep playing if they nerf it, and if I leave until they do, it just puts me further behind
they gonna release yeli next LD that can clear all inferno $$$
I just want to be able to auto farm inferno without it taking me 4h a day like it does right now
so I can get the modules that are pretty much required to play pvp
cuz without that +15% spd I aint winning anything at this point
R.I.P to all ppl who stackd for 1 week and wanted to do threhold
for the record: I can clear inferno, its just not fun
inferno changes that would be nice
Doki applying cc refreshes duration, maybe a slight resistance nerf otherwise good
Aurora and terrormaton enrage mechanics reduced, and damage and maybe speed reduced
Shell infernos nerfed similarly
I think all of them need a defense/hp nerf
i think their hp/defense arent the issue, its the fact if you get touched 1 time u die
because they take so damn long to clear and it adds like nothing of value
theyre just giant damage sponges without that making it any harder, like you lose dokidoki based on if your dps gets targeted
if they nerf hp and def thats fine by me, i just think the actual being able to clear it, is locked behind it doing infinite damage
This endgame is bs
its not even endgame, its just farming for endgame
get good being have lily and ssania
apart from if you can or cant clear it
its straight up not a fun gameplay loop
it takes too much time just to do the daily stamina, and it fails half the time lol

notice the 1 star here
it takes so god damn long to get through the 400 daily stamina
That is true
well youre supposed to shell farm with most of it
Clown
you think shell farming is fast? lol
if it was possible to auto clear within 1min, consistently
you could spend all your stamina in <1h and itd be chilling
and then do pvp after shuffling all your damn modules around again
you can do 90 second runs with a rosa team lmao
why 400?
π€‘ 90 seconds on every shell dungeon?
people are finding 2 min teams with R units in them lmfao
isn t the cap 1000
288 refresh, 100 from union check in
388, close enough to 400
ah ok, you are not refilling
This guy is in the thread hating on the title . Why even bother
And 1000 from refreshes + 2 stamina pots you get from dailies
oh I am but lets not even talk about that 
yeah this game takes too much time
the 400 daily stamina is why I dont get sleep
the 1000 from refill is why I dont get to see my wife and kids
auto mode should be 30 runs
I have one star clears and am βgigaβ whale 
10x speed would be nice lol
define giga whale
that is not a giga whale
honestly thats just whale
its ppl who say theyre a whale with 1k that are just kinda wrong
its whale currently
ppl put the bar for whale so low that 3k is seen is a big whale
well the thing is 3k is whaling atm cuz theres not that much to spend on atm
but in the future 3k is dolphin for sure
enjoy manual farming
im telling you, even with ssania its not even fun cuz try putting her on auto mode and watch her use her extend turn 1, then ult on turn 2 
I mean 3K in 2 1/2 weeks
thatΒ΄s what I was going to say
Not even
canΒ΄t really spend much more
her AI is so bad, I want to shoot my ssania in the face

besides buying crystals
the only thing you could really giga whale for atm
is like doing for 5/5 dupes just spamming permanant banner
so anyway are you single and do you need a sugar baby?
which im sure theres been some people who did but at the same time i dont imagine many people have spent much money on the game in its current state

game could be really good, but also hasnt had simple things addressed in like a week
and theres also some minor changes that could be done instantly like the fixing selling the bonus stuff from 2x
literally just give us any communication and playerbase would be 10x happier
was there ever a confirmation on the critdmg% cap?
i love not being able to click that its garbage
where the hell is the communication
people in this company capable of communicating got fired after beta finished
#official-news during all of this is just like "anyway guys, tourney soon"
What communication
like, really i think its so hard to understand how they dont fix it
the people who would all give the feedback super early are gonna be the sweatier players
if they have to figure out how to super minmax a team to do it rn, a lot of casuals will quit when they see how hard it is lol
ye theres people who complain about hell 2 to 3 difficulty jump
imagine after they get into inferno
π
and they are not wrong
i mean to be fair it should be labelled different things
but it should be a difficulty leap cuz u actually start getting good gear
h3 is way better than h2 lol
no all farm cotent should be piss easy
Is it true does celince forgetfulness debuff nullify the dmg reduction from dokidoki
hot take make inferno nerfed and add inferno 2 with current difficulty with better drop rates
Not a hot take tbh from what I hear a lot of people said inferno has shit drop rates
It does
imo just remove inferno and turn current inferno into some kind of challenge (not farm) mode later... infinite health score attack, or quickest clear, or something. put the inferno gear on h3/4 and 3 matrix on h1/2.
early into the game cycle they shouldnt make any farming hard
if they want to add hard farming content, do it after a month or 2
literally just rollback shells and module bosses to beta and all is solved
its a few minutes change, they just don't want to do it
they were fine and now they are not
devs think they know best
they got real grumpy any time that was suggested, lol
which sure man if you wanna make ur game like that do it
but communicate it beforehand so we can not play it
hard games only apply to hardcore gamers which is like 0.1% of the playerbase
but hey up to them ig
does it get easier or harder to hit mythic if 40% of the playerbase quits?
probably harder
darn
only giga hardcore players remain
would be less elo inflation
so its harder
that too
was just saying if there was a straight up 40% reduction
picked at random
thanos snapped
mr XD.... i dont feel so good
players: plz fix this its horrible
devs: XD
their name is starting to taunt me
like theyre just laughing at me
I'm tired boss...
O.o whys everyone just module farming rng instead of xp
Because people already maxed the level
Of every character?
Being used? Yes
Oo
I hadn't farmed modules outside of hyperlink charter missions until the event, was just in shell mines. so my modules were way far behind. Lot more comfortable now. Still spent most of my energy on xp/gp but a few thousand stam on modules too
max the lvl of future stuff
farming xp just for current units is kind of an L play
nobody tryna farm xp later
And how you want to progress in the dungeons without farming modules? That is not how shit works
a lot of people are focusing resources just trying to clear the shitty content
if you could farm all ur stability in modules entirely, i would completely disagree but when you have 10k+ energy to use and runs taking 2 mins kinda have to farm some gp/xp
but the thing about gp/xp is you get them passively from all events/challenges/dailies etc
so eventually, they're kinda irrelevant
I dont need to visit xp stage anymore
And I think everyone did that, because it was impossible to burn it in modules
ye you have to farm xp/gp unless ur like 50 second ssania clear abuser lol
sania level 5 dinah level 1 viper level 1 smh
Shhhhh ran out of stam
Cant really use sania in this 2x...
man I haven't used Dinah at all since beta, even maxed her S3
Yea... she fell off
?
just go get infinite xp from ember trek, 400 xp per run lol
Unless it is strictly for terror
yes terror farming
And for that you need both sania and lily
Lol tru
Lily is the one doing 1min runs, not sania
otherwise i dont think people are consistently doing doki faster than 2 mins avg prob
so its like, gg
getting this last like 20% accuracy i've gotten on mio has been such a difference maker tbh
Uhm what's happening?
Why did my team get replaced with my other team π€£
They are the wrong unit but still kept the original skills
Itβs so sad because it has so much potential. Such quality wasted on incompetent and greedy devs.
did you use formation lock by any chance?
most useless feature every devised
I actually did. It's funny to see Khloros using Freya's skill. π€£
damn I was hoping he did the flip
So people just talk about random stuff in here just to keep the post at the top of the "feedback" section?
It's a fun icebreaker to keep my insanity. I've been farming Terror and now shells cuz I apparently need it without getting clapped.
ya it's just group therapy
Just another thread like the one before about terro and aurora buff. A container for the complaints
No worries, they were just waiting for 2x event before nerfing inferno. Expect the announcement tomorrow copium
2x shells next weekend
hype
You think they'll actually nerf inferno?
Though the difficulty isnt really justified for the crap drops lmao
they do need to make some tweaks...even if its just ai related like the stuns on doki
the hp and all that is what it is
I'm almost sure they will. It's unimaginable they keep it as is where only 1 comp can clear it
The stuns is how they "balance" their game
Look at ember trek 42 normal
Fken cancer ass stage
ember trek 42 is completely autoable lol
its nowhere near as bad as doki inferno stuns
don't know the tech then, what team?
I honestly havent had much issue with doki2 inferno
had to reset like 8 times just to not get a dark add from the first two spawns lol, who designs this shit
xiada lol
A sadist
oh yeah xiada is super good there
if you have xiada ling freya viper lily you can auto basically 100% with any thing that pops
but these bastards that target your dps to start wave 2
ya wave 2 is the entire fight
oh wrong convo lol
wave 2 on ember is trivialized by viper
oh i use massiah for doki2
which would explain the consistency
the chance of him dying compared to xiada/ril is much lower
yeah massiah is nice for it
you could take hellkid to doki and theyd still target xiada lol
same with rosa lol
although I did try a comp with beyo and like 9/10 runs they instagibbed her wave1 lol
Ril cant die in doki at all
i can overcome stats, i cant overcome my dps being hit 4 times for 13k,13k, 5k, 5k and big boy hitting for 25k lol
This is why she is so good for doki, she just ignores all the rng bullshit
all this could be solved if they gave something like val an inherent taunt
or just not have fucked up ai lol
AI is ok, inferno is not
i mean if the ai bullshit goes away inferno is piss easy
Nope, it wouldnt change much at all, it would still be the same garbage
AI is the least of the problems in inferno
theres nothing about inferno thats hard other than the stuns lol
Do you have lily?
yes and i can run the same team subbing her out for kloss lol
nope, it is not just as easy at all
lol sure bud
lily deals an insane amount of damage in doki
She is doing the job of a DPS and a support at the same time
with rilmoucha lily is irrelevant tbh. With any other DPS she can't be substituted.
Doki is horrible without lily. You either manual or run the rilmocha comp, you dont have any other choice
Rilmocha+friends and lily+DPS, there is no other comp that can do doki
Otherwise you have to manual the whole fight
Terror can be done without lily, but not doki
Nah, you can go with dot without lily
maybe that's what the next LD will be, an actual spammable taunt. since almost every boss is immune to cc except taunt
Yeah but that's just Ssania gated then
Yep
Basically almost every single inferno is gated at moment
I think niconana is the only one not gated
and get 3-4 artisans sometimes lol
full cancer
They will need to give us reset event all over again...
They should just call this launch the last beta and launch it all over again
Cause they fucked up way too much
lol remember when they tried to get away with not giving a reset event during the last fiasco and had to put out a second statement a half hour later?
they're so stingy on certain things, it's weird
yeah
terrible PR
i'm clearing inferno doki with cachi the guard and vice and yall complaining
PR was better during beta than during launch lol
Like i had to skill up my whole fucking SR roster except the ones i actually wanted to use for pvp
it's so terirble

Well, it is not hard to be better than nothing, since they dont say anything at all
Jack posted 3 times in the 5 minutes before grand opening launch and never again lol
he for sure got fired
reminds me of POE2 memes with "The Vision"
it wouldn't shock me if leadership got completely changed out by XD on launch
Why would they even do that. They took 3-4 years to develop the game
well they kept the employee in charge of nerfing shit after launch lol
money is money
Cant make money from a dead game
doesnt make sense but neither does what they r doing rn
if beta rebate numbers were way low, they can get a feel for engagement. better to cut spending if you're not going to recoup
People are just going to refund everything and that is it
and CC contracts were probably all already locked in/signed
no budget left for even making a Hoyan trailer with current kit lol
sure, but being silent doesnΒ΄t help either
That is how they are killing the game, it is insane
a simple, "hey we are working on it and will release a hotfix next week"
They should have actually stopped the 2x and activated it later...
maybe sending feedback polls in game
CM hasn't posted except meme images since the 19th. I think he said he was sick earlier this week though, so that is unfortunate timing
launch had waaay more players checking the game compared to beta
That is what he posted since January....
Trial mods were usually a lot more informative
He took break for weekend too I believe
yeah, but now much less people
When they added the "in addition" 
because general chat is divided between the general chat and this thread
they had like 15 minute slow mode for a while, people probably left
there's also "general chat" and "etheria only chat" which divides as well
People either found teams, quit or became content with Hell IV
If devs remain silent and donΒ΄t change some stuff before the end of the month, a lot of players will quit
if they donΒ΄t quit before ofc
If they dont give an answer on monday people will quit
Or going to college to get a job to whale in 4 years
8 months waiting for a release this bad just suxs way too much
IΒ΄m not expecting anything for monday
the game had so much potential
they probably just hope people got enough xp/gear this weekend to shut up, but the average player is probably farming nightmare 2 modules or some nonsense and getting further behind
I'm expecting all the devs to board Jack's yacht today and party on monday
game is gone if they dont give an answer fast
cn
2x exp event probably wasn't planned there was just too much backlash from shadownerf/buff gate
chinese
this is cn
thanks god for x2
alright, so at the end of the day or tmr morning
Nah it wasn't planned. Wasn't in the calendar
or we would have people saying skill issue u can clear inferno without experience
I wish they removed it
gear farming gonna feel bad without 2x lol, less coins and u get to see a wall of 2x matrixes
It just make stuff worse
x2 kinda exposed inferno being in the state it is tho
This is me with FGO 
And also killed all the accounts that couldnt farm it
without x2 people would be fucking clueless
Then I quit after not getting NP5 Summer BB in 2k
this chat was terrible the days before people hit it
hate the idea of uncapped x2 events, just let me spend my resources when I feel like it/need something without feeling waste anxiety.
tbh inferno enjoyers wonΒ΄t really get much of a benefit
itΒ΄s already boring to auto 2 min runs
imagine manualling them
imagine that huh
dude they are doing 1-2min runs on auto...
yep, thatΒ΄s what im saying
It's more of the drop rate differences, not that big (though Inferno drops slightly more 3s if discounting new sets)
only doki doki, and you donΒ΄t need SSania + lily
you can auto niconana
not sure about hoyan
They are doing that fast for both terror and doki
the least this can do is fuel my gambling addition before i drop it
and terror can be done if u sacrifice wr i think?
cant get new set anywhere else
Saw people semi-auto'ing terror. Like have it on auto but while watching to reset if it's going south
Only on Terror
if you are running dot you only need to pass the dispell check and that is it
on doki too
DoT doesn't work there, needs a different team (mainly Kloss)
in doki you just run rilmocha one shot comp and that is it
rilmocha for doki and dot for terror, those are the fastests clears
Dont worry, inferno nerf announcement incoming tomorrow, together with lily banner in 3 days
surelyyy
Which needs Kloss lol but yeah, much more reliable than Terror where if Holden fails dispel its joever
lily banner wont solve the issue at all
No, you dont need kloss at all
Would help. Also if inferno gets nerfed it should be good
How it would help if you need to spend 300 bucks to get it?
One shot team needed Kloss at Inferno right? You can't do it with Dupeless Ril unlike Hell IV
You can do it with dinah
Rilmocha+massiah and that is it
Bro you read only parts of what people type? I said coupled with inferno nerfs
The only one I saw with that had 4/5 Rilmocha
Have you seen one with 0/5
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but no stats
It wasnt fast enough to be in the rank
hope all of you had a good 2x
Rip would be nice to find out though I've already switched to Xiada team since she's used in both Aurora and Doki lol
I went to Xiada but I am thinking about resetting her
watch them nerf revelation 
Cant use her for doki without lily
In 90 days, that's fine LOL
Oh yeah, without her its a lot harder
What was the excuse
tooltip says 40% or something
yea there's a difference in the shell desc vs tooltip on buff
was also there since last beta
so they can just make it so its 40%
and then xiada is just ded
hope you raised your rat!
pve would be impossible without it
pvp would be even worse
Resets again 
Ngl I can see the 40% applying only to PvP as a potential fix
Wtf?
devs gotta say something today]

wait revelation is going to be nerfed ? I was going to reset my rilmochi for xiada, thats sad
rev is being "monitored" like this thread
game is connected directly to peripheral
Then make an anti-anti macro bot π€‘
only way to do that is using an irl bot
aight so no changes for 7 more months
Time to do some side quests!
hire a Vietnamese guy
rev only thing making infernal somewhat doable
Monitored translates to: "This is where they will vent until everything dies down" π€£
and dots, anything hp scaling
well yeah
takes forever to spend 14 k stamina
IΒ΄m doing investigations at this point, cause 2 min runs not doable
even if modules is the more efficient thing
Ill vent until I quit the game so like... if this chat dies down. I wonder how many of those previous active ranters just quit entirely
itΒ΄s being pretty quiet as of lately
get yourself some anima imprints
already did a lot today, IΒ΄m at 400 on each yellow
everyones busy farming during 2x and then next week farming shell
and then we will be back π«‘
ugh imma have to manual inferno shells for a bit...
I have 500 left after so long 
that already sounds painful
how fast is doki inferno?
I guess you farmed a lot of investigations
I think a chunk has already. I'm waiting to see what'll happen next before any decision
between 30sec and 210 secons
30 seconds is endgame fast team
fck
289-288 actually
thanks
you safe with 290
Did that and GP for Lily and Xiada π«‘
lol I did that a bunch in beta, and off and on for launch
yeah, itΒ΄s verry tedious
but stopped when they were blocking people from sending too many verification codes
didnΒ΄t know about that
shell farming is not fun
no ssania but it works...half the time
what are u running
diting khloros veronika freya dinah
Vero on codex I hope? If you have enough DPS this should be 100%
everything is 100% when you have enough dps
No, try running Asshu, vice, no.41, andrew in inferno with all maxed out quad rolls modules & best shells it will still fail.
Regardless you understood what I meant, are you running codex?
of course
haha
been following these
from leviatra
my units have roughly the same stats
and speed tuned
a hundred ten crit and still no crit lol
i use clorox to clean my house
Give freya a bit more speed so she moves before khloros
she does
anyway does your diting always crit?
Khloros is 3 speed faster, so she shouldnt move first
oh wait she cant move faster because if she moves before the arm, she'll lose the soul ward
and terro will wipe
so she has to be roughly 190
the pics i show above apparently have 80% wr
Reddit sentiment is funny. Still a lot of inferno defenders there, but RES tracks usernames with the amount of up/downvotes you've given them historically and I'm seeing a bunch of people who previously I had dinged for dumb or aggressive takes suddenly on the "inferno bad" side
I've noticed that too lol
Also seeing a few people I've butted heads with now also either fully joining inferno bad or at the very least they're tired like the rest of us
just hit inferno doki. i have lilly and doki in my team however. but i saw another guy farming without any light/dark ssr's
both inferno. i rosa team is mine.
my rosa sk1,sk2,sk3 fully maxed. lily sk1 is lvl 4. currently a 50%ish win rate. will go up when 2x ends and i start farming shells (currently using 2 black flags as filler and a low level giga). Also skilling up lily and then doki one day will make this pretty reliable. no comment on other team dont have those 2 blue units
Uhh its not supposed to be clearable in 1 week! 
It's only 2 weeks into the game, relax it's a marathon.
It's endgame content, it's supposed to be hard.
Other games 11 years ago had the same struggles, so it's fine.
You don't need X character, just substitute Y character. No, I don't use Y character personally.
Have you tried putting 12 lattices into every SR character?
If you don't like it, then leave.
You're not entitled to the best gear in the game.
It's a gacha, certain characters will always be better than others.
Inferno drop rates aren't good anyway, you don't need to farm it.
The devs need to make money somehow.
It's fine, skill issue, get good, l2p.
People just like to complain, I'm having fun.
Damn you were quick on the draw with that wtf
Are you a counterstrike pro
It's only 2 weeks into the game, relax it's a marathon.
It's endgame content, it's supposed to be hard.
Other games 11 years ago had the same struggles, so it's fine.
You don't need X character, just substitute Y character. No, I don't use Y character personally.
Have you tried putting 12 lattices into every SR character?
If you don't like it, then leave.
You're not entitled to the best gear in the game.
It's a gacha, certain characters will always be better than others.
Inferno drop rates aren't good anyway, you don't need to farm it.
The devs need to make money somehow.
It's fine, skill issue, get good, l2p.
People just like to complain, I'm having fun.
HAHA. I threw that shit before I walked in the room!
-Black Dynamite
The "Wait until you have a full team of 6 stars and have full +15 mythics" people need to be in there too
the problem isnt that its hard... the problem is that ppl that have ssania/lily can clear it easily/fast with little investment and get ahead






