#Lilly Changed Everything – Please Consider a Selective LD Banner

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ember harbor
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I’ve been playing Etheria Restart since launch alongside three of my friends. We’re all light spenders and we’ve been max refreshing daily, trying to push as far as we can in the game. But despite similar effort and investment, my progress has massively outpaced theirs — and it all comes down to one thing: I was lucky enough to pull Lilly.

Lilly has been a complete game-changer for me. She’s incredibly powerful and hard to replace in nearly every piece of high-level content. From difficult PvE stages to late-game bosses, she consistently carried me through challenges that my friends are still stuck on. It’s not a matter of skill or effort — we’re all equally committed — it’s just pure RNG.

At this point, my friends are stuck. They love the game and would happily spend more money, but not when it feels like chasing shadows. A selective Light/Dark banner. It would give players more agency and let them aim for the units they really need to progress, rather than leaving progression entirely up to luck.

umbral sand
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This is why people said reroll for Lily thought

scenic wren
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Lily is just too strong at this point there is basicaly no replacment for her. I myself rerolled 20 times didn't got her so I said fuck it and didn't waste my time.

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She will be one of first on choping block for sure

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Diting and her will get some sort or nerf when season ends

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I will be socked if they didn't

ember harbor
ember harbor
# scenic wren Diting and her will get some sort or nerf when season ends

Diting & lily are mostly PvE units. Sure lily is used a lot in arena def , but as people get bulwark & more defensive sets she won't be as good there. Nerfing PvE units is VERY bad for the game as we saw with some previous nerfs. They shouldn't nerf anything that is PvE related. They should even tune down the bosses. Lily allowed me to clear inferno doki. Where as my friends are stuck on doki 3 and doki 4 is extremely unsafe without her as well

umbral sand
ember harbor
# brave haven what are they "stuck" on

Ember trek:
-I cleared 42 and progressing through hard.
-They're stuck on earlier stages without lily.

Doki:
-I cleared inferno
-They're stuck on farming hell3 as hell4 is very unsafe.

Terror:
-I've cleared hell4
-they havent cleared hell4

Anysinc echoes:
-I'm at heinrich stage
-they're stuck way behind.

I use lilly in all the content said above.

Edit: we're all lvl 55 at the moment. Yet i'm kind of a head just due to her.

jade sand
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That anisync Heinrich stage is so dumb. Nothing but a huge Spd check

brave haven
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ik fs doki has f2p team comps without Lily

brave haven
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anisync heroes is very cheesable with speed and control units

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dont need Lily

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ember treck - depends on the stage but def more things that work

ember harbor
brave haven
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and terror u can do with diting and 2nd dps

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if u dont have shadow sania or lily

ember harbor
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Lily just let you clear a lot of things with mid quality gear/shells thats just not clearable with the same gear quality but no lilly on the team tbh

brave haven
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yea they might need to build a 2nd dps set but they shouldnt be stuck

ember harbor
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Some has diting + mesiah, some diting + xiada

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And other diting + kloros or how ever you type his name

brave haven
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messiah and khloros are both great as a 2nd dps for them to build

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but also the person with xiada could use (or should have used) their target selector to get something they may have needed

shell forum
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I will say here that I have said in the last 5 (not even an exaggeration) feedbacks about how Lily isn't a must have. The reality is, and I know people will say I am wrong and I don't care because it's just facts the same in every gacha game like this type.

The reason Lily is being used so much is she is the easiest enabler and makes the gear requirement lower. If you don't have her it just means you need to do a bit more work. But she is not a unit that is in a realm of. "If you don't have this unit, you just don't get to play."

ember harbor
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Exactly what i've been saying

shell forum
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It's week one and everyone is building the same units, using the same teams, etc. Give it time and I guarantee it will not just be lily you see constantly. People need time to build units to evolve the scope of viability

ember harbor
gaunt tree
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have you cleared without Lily?

shell forum
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Terramoton

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Doki doki

gaunt tree
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what difficulty is that?

shell forum
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Inferno

gaunt tree
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well at least seems to be another option on terromaton than Lily - DOT with Veronica

ember harbor
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As gothy said; lily is NOT a MUST have. She's just enabling you to clear content faster with lesser quality Modules & shells. Give it a few weeks people will get a lot of upgrade and F2P friendly team will be available for everyone. It's just frustating that people that got lily early gets a little boost in progress. And I say that as a Lily owner.

gaunt tree
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problem as I see it is that what is gating in a way is the way to progress

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being able to clear higher levels than "normal" on not gearing modes is ok

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but there is a huge spike on modes that should be to grind and improve the characters

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that leads to feeling "stuck"

ember harbor
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And a Selective LD banner is a win/win. devs gets to make lots of money from selling packs and people are happy they can pull lily without chasing shadows as I said previously

gaunt tree
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is that your account?

shell forum
# gaunt tree is that your account?

Does it honestly matter if it is or not? The whole point of this Feedback Thread was that Lily is a must have and an LD Selective is needed.

This proved that to be 100% false.

GG go next.

gaunt tree
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there is only one clear without her which is that one with Veronica's cheat death gimmick

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I see you arguing everywhere about something you have not done so yeah take a sit

shell forum
ember harbor
gaunt tree
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you decided to be an ass for no reason so that's why I'm answering to you like that

gleaming crown
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merry flame
gleaming crown
zealous canopy
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gleaming crown
merry flame
daring rock
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If p2w folks with maxed out mythic gear and shells can't even clear inferno consistently, what chances do low spenders and f2p have lol.

zealous canopy
daring rock
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Also Lily is obviously such a game changer for an account. Let's not deny that

ember harbor
daring rock
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P2w obviously have larger pool of rolls

zealous canopy
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Sure, she's eventually replaced, but by that time she's already provided such a massive benefit that to overlook that isn't acknowledging the whole story and how big of a role she plays

rancid shuttle
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this is stupid. probably skill issue

shell forum
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We litterally just had the first person today clear inferno on Aurora granted yes there is a Lily on it. But if only one person has cleared it amongst all the giga whales... i don't honestly see Lily as the answer.

gleaming crown
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Lily is not getting power crept within the next 6 months unless the devs have no sense of balance

merry flame
daring rock
ember harbor
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I love how my thead that was about a selective LD banner turned into a shit show of arguments lmao

shell forum
daring rock
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If anything it proved the point that Inferno is over scaled and Lily is a huge boost

valid bear
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bro is literally running triple sustain LOL

gleaming crown
brave haven
merry flame
gleaming crown
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NERF INFERNO

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Mad and using clown emojis lol

rancid shuttle
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skill issue

shell forum
merry flame
daring rock
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I mean 12 mins if manual play for a farming stage? Lmao who has that time to do it 10 times over? This player obviously has maxed out gear to even be able to survive, let alone clear

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Sorry I have a life

shell forum
ember harbor
shell forum
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You can not say one person is the adequate sample size to prove a fact. That is just illogical

gleaming crown
rancid shuttle
shell forum
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@gleaming crown

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You just said the single thing I have been saying all day

jaunty lichen
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lily was only used to cycle lingluo for more heals and can be replaced by tsukiyomi and a proper speed cure set on lingluo. No I did not have max gear, nor did I whale. Tiamat was still on black flag. Sorry just clarifying, I do agree Lily is super strong

shell forum
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Honestly thank you

gleaming crown
ember harbor
rancid shuttle
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sure

gleaming crown
rancid shuttle
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it's just about time

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you don't need to have specific ssr unit to clear

shell forum
zealous canopy
ember harbor
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When you're farming for 2% upgrade is late game

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Nothing before that is

gleaming crown
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That was the e7 experience for me

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I was hunting for max speed rolls for like a month straight

ember harbor
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Glad we all came to a conclusion;

  • Lily is NOT a must have
  • She helps you progress with lesser gear quality
  • F2P friendly teams will eventually be available for everyone
  • Beating inferno is not end game, farming it for months is.
  • A LD selective banner is good for both players & devs for profits
  • Inferno may be a little overtuned

Do we all agree?😂

gleaming crown
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  1. Probably yeah your account isn’t bricked or anything
  2. I wanna see it before I believe it
    Everything else I agree with
shell forum
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Again, is Lily a good unit? Yes, I will not deny that or even try to say otherwise. But, I do think to be 100% fair... we need to give things time.

You had people finding ways like this image here in the final CBT. You think they won't here?

valid bear
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beta was a mistake, they gutted turn controlling terror because of it

merry flame
ember harbor
gleaming crown
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LETS GO

somber palm
gleaming crown
ember harbor
gleaming crown
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I really hope the rest of the month will go smoothly

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Too much controversy already

valid bear
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gleaming crown
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But

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There are some good 4 stars but not that good

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Bosses too strong and fast

valid bear
gleaming crown
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Fr lol

shell forum
valid bear
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My girl Kiris clearing abyss before they made every boss immune

gleaming crown
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You can cheese tf out of wyvern even 13 idk the highest level now

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But here

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There is so little options man

merry flame
valid bear
gleaming crown
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How were they pre launch and what was the nerf

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I’m curious

valid bear
gleaming crown
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Oh

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That

indigo tree
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Only 1 Person can clear Aurora Inferno and they have Lily

gleaming crown
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This hardly seemed necessary

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I thought it was a previous broken mechanic

valid bear
gleaming crown
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F2P options being good won’t kill the game brah

indigo tree
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No.41 can't buff attack like freya or block debuff lol

shell forum
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I think people focus far too heavily on turn gage in my opinion. Yeah it's valuable but for dungeons like terra and doki. You don't always need push back in order to achieve the goal

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Just my opinion

gaunt tree
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I'm convinced R units only purpose is to fill the pulls with something, can't just have your 10 pull with an SR and 9 empy rectangles 😄

gleaming crown
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It can make things easier

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  • cycling better
shell forum
merry flame
gleaming crown
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Prydwen think she’s usable tho

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She’s been rising

valid bear
gleaming crown
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AINT NO WAY

shell forum
# merry flame How many have you maxed out?

I'm working on my number 41 right now. I started at launch but reset my account because of using the reconfigure stupidly. So I rerolled and am actually progressing better then I was on the original.

gleaming crown
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Single target but still

valid bear
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Viktor is the same too, 4 hits on s3 but 3 hits on s1

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uptime is much better

gleaming crown
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Oh my

valid bear
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oh yes

gleaming crown
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Revelation you dirty dirty

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Making bad units usable with gearing

valid bear
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dogshit gear too lol

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CRITICAL BUG FIX, bosses are now immune to revelation % health damage. Thank you for your cooperation.

gleaming crown
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That would unironically send me

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They’d have to rerun the event for a second time

shell forum
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When you are locked to specific eliments like in Infinity Train and Ethernet Rally, you will look to units you least epected to because you were able to skill them up easier till you get your SSRs on line.

somber palm
valid bear
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that cant go higher than 150% attack

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so to make it bigger on large hp pools u stack attack

gleaming crown
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It’s fixed but you need loads of attack

somber palm
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I see....so the build is double attack set?

valid bear
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pretty much

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onslaught

gleaming crown
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Yeppers

valid bear
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i havent tested it on inferno terror yet because i simply dont have Viktor built or an attack pure onslaught set yet

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but i think his HP pool is a big too big

gleaming crown
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Once everyone catches on to revelation man

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I wonder what the devs are gonna do about it

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It’s working as intended

valid bear
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im like fairly certain they didnt test revelation and this is not intended lol

shell forum
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Crazy how the 4 people who put a clown here either haven't said a word or just stopped talking.

Funny how that works....

ember harbor
gaunt tree
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why would I continue arguing with you? "I'm working on my number 41 right now. I started at launch but reset my account because of using the reconfigure stupidly. So I rerolled and am actually progressing better then I was on the original." You have no clue what you're talking about

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you're free to your opinion, I disagree and think it's uninformed

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that's all I have to say and will say

valid bear
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Im currently level 55 and blasting content

daring rock
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Bottom line is just play the game until you stop having fun, then move on to another one 🤷

valid bear
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i still think inferno is dogshit design

gleaming crown
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PvP… well yeah

shell forum
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Brother really hit me with the, "you're working on number 41, you're ill iformed"

ember harbor
daring rock
merry flame
gaunt tree
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your'e the one that somehow messed the reconfigure so bad had to reroll

gleaming crown
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Idk how much acc you need cuz I have 150+ plus and they still resisting on hell 2 doki

gaunt tree
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doesn't sound very informed 🤣

shell forum
gaunt tree
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not your brother

valid bear
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cousins are legal

storm sparrow
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Who made a Lilyless cope thread dv_frogKekOwO

somber palm
valid bear
gleaming crown
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Even with with max acc???

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wtf is that dogshit

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Lmao

uncut crater
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No matter stats of either the inflicter or target, the chance to land the debuff cannot exceed 90%

gleaming crown
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I’m gonna crash out

daring rock
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I think every cc has a base chance to fail

ember harbor
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Eh, doki inferno resist my 200% acc a lot

daring rock
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It's just how the game is designed.

somber palm
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True....kinda dog shit putting that on PvE

daring rock
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Literally had 150% eff ACC on 80% base chance and still fail

gleaming crown
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If that was pvp whatever but why in pve

valid bear
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anything over 100% for PvE is literally wasted stats lol

daring rock
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Mobs have resistance

gleaming crown
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I’m crying

daring rock
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So not exactly a waste

valid bear
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50% if you have element advantage

gleaming crown
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So 150 is all you need right

daring rock
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That's only for resistance

gleaming crown
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Hm

storm sparrow
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No need for a LD selector just do a ten pull

daring rock
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Not for attacking

valid bear
gleaming crown
ember harbor
gleaming crown
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Standard has given me 3 dupes

shell forum
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Actually ban this man

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xD

valid bear
gleaming crown
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Go ahead

valid bear
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i dont even have gear on her

ember harbor
valid bear
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yep

gleaming crown
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Haha

valid bear
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bro she might possibly be

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the worst L/D to pull dupes on

shell forum
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@gleaming crown wanna laugh?

gleaming crown
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Yeah

shell forum
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Average chatter: "Xiada is worthless now since the bug fix."
Reality:

valid bear
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Revelation ABUSERS

gleaming crown
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I need to start building Rosa asap man

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Got her today

shell forum
gleaming crown
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this is a LOVING relationship

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It’s not abusive :(

shell forum
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But this what I mean, by give it time. Let people build units

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There is so much changing week to week as people get access to more things

ember harbor
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I cant be a revelation abooser as my main DPS are diting & messiah

ember harbor
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Might have to reset messiah and become rev abuser until its nerfed hehehe

daring rock
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Revelation might get nerfed

ember harbor
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Hopefully they only nerf it in pvp tbh

daring rock
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Who knows

gleaming crown
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It’s practically written in the stars

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Gonna farm using it till it’s patched

daring rock
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Another strat for pve down the drain

gleaming crown
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Hope they keep the pve usage

shell forum
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This made me laugh, because this is litterally what EVERYONE was saying

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But no one would listen

valid bear
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Have u guys tried ember trek floor 42 btw

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the level is actually so omega cancer

daring rock
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I think some bosses are immune to DoT in ember?

valid bear
daring rock
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Ok

ember harbor
valid bear
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yeah im resetting my Messiah and giving the gear over to Xiada

valid bear
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i certainly didnt

merry flame
ember harbor
valid bear
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the fucking

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dark mob

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valid bear
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holy fuck bro

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u cant immune it nor can u use doki cleanse on it

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it fucking goes thru everything

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what the fuck????

ember harbor
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That boss may be a little over tuned as well

valid bear
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the amount of times i got to the second stage only to get stunned 4-6 times in a row

gleaming crown
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But I did say the nerf wasn’t justified despite dot being a broken mechanic

ember harbor
valid bear
gleaming crown
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  • their response made it worse to where they quickly hotfixed and only addressed it later
shell forum
ember harbor
storm sparrow
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Dear Hyperlinkers,
Just get lucky with Lily

gleaming crown
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Maybe they should stop flirting with that for a bit

valid bear
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stage 1 was resetting until i didnt land a dark mob, stage 2 was praying that the 30% didnt land and stage 3 was just meh

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i got so much fucking cancer

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whoever designed this dark mob needs to be fired ACTUALLY

valid bear
gleaming crown
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That happens

gleaming crown
ember harbor
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I wonder what kind of stuff they're cooking as a reason to nerf rev next lol

storm sparrow
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Who voted thumbsdown for this thread

gleaming crown
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Shanz lol

merry flame
rancid shuttle
valid bear
storm sparrow
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Which Lily skill did you level up first S1 or S2?

merry flame
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critical bug got me no lie 😂

gleaming crown
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S2 needs your lattices

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And s1 yeah

shell forum
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S1 is the ally attack with is arguably the more important

ember harbor
shell forum
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Can't get any lower then it is

spark briar
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yeah, lily is too good

somber palm
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Freya 4 hit....ok so freya+xiada is look like doki-doki 1 shot team

grizzled sentinel