I strongly believe a second reset event — ideally free — is absolutely needed right now. DoT

[tired lagoon]

I used 4 resets just to build my DoT team, since I pulled Shadow Sania late. I even used my selector on Rimocha, who’s now reset.

I committed to DoTs because they could clear all PvE thresholds, which meant I could build my second team strictly for PvP. The downside? DoTs are terrible in PvP — and now, with the recent changes, I’m forced to build a second PvE team anyway. To make it worse, DoT teams also underperform in Doki. Meanwhile, units like Rimocha or Messihas are still dominant in both PvE and PvP.

So I’m left with a team that struggles in both core areas of the game, after heavily investing my resets and resources.

A second free reset isn’t just fair, it’s necessary.

I strongly believe a second reset event — ideally free — is absolutely needed right now. DoT

[worn sparrow]

dots never performed well in doki tho

[tardy moss]

So? After as many betas and general time they had to fix anything they found wrong, they wait for after release to make changes that fundamentally change what players would want to build. Free resets and some compensation are the LEAST of what they should do.

[worn sparrow]

? im just saying that clear all PVE thresholds was a lie

learn how to read man

[tardy moss]

? i read that as in they "can" clear it. and they can. they just underperform.

were you just nitpicking on "all", when he should have said "most", when the crux of the post is "we need another reset event ASAP because of all the changes"?

[worn sparrow]

bruh dot team cannot clear doki doki

as well as sharon

and aurora

[tall garden]

its ur fault to building dot

[tardy moss]

so no reset event, gotcha

[worn sparrow]

tru

[tardy moss]

just say "I am against a reset event"

[worn sparrow]

i never said i was against , i never said i was for, all i said dots never had performed well in doki doki

ur just putting things innto other peoples words

smh

[worn sparrow]

if u commited cuz of this

thats on u

not doing proper research

[tardy moss]

so no reset event then. you are not in favor of a reset event

[worn sparrow]

once again putting things in other peoples words

learn to read

[tardy moss]

? you are saying "it's on you". what can this possibly mean other than "i am not in favor of a reset event, deal with your poor decisions yourself"?

[worn sparrow]

a reset just because they made 1 more pve stage impossible to clear to the original 2 out of 10 other stages of bosses

is just insane to ask for

dots work in all shell farm except sharon

dots work in terror

[tardy moss]

the crux of the issue here is: aurora cannot be cleared with poison anymore, so plz reset event. you nitpicked saying "poison already couldn't clear everything, so no".

[worn sparrow]

It originaly wasnt suppose to be able to

[tardy moss]

? no, it is not. other games (ie: card games) will even allow you to dismantle cards and get full refunds for them if they change something about how specific cards interact with the game. Other games give pretty massive compensation for major changes like what happened to aurora. what are you talking about?

[tardy moss]

originally? in which beta did it not work?

[worn sparrow]

lol card games

[modest crane]

Showing up with receipts. Respect!

[broken prairie]

I feel like this take is slightly misleading because the Aurora text didn't have anything about dots in the most recent beta.

Then, there were no patch notes that indicated this changed.

Then, we couldn't even read Aurora's Will Field passive live until days into release.

So even if Aurora was supposed to be immune to dots from day one of global launch, we literally couldn't know that until multiple days into release.

[worn sparrow]

but thats also the same as we didnt know +9 to +12 gear guides wont work anymore since the bosses were tougher

[grim hatch]

I’ve been lurking but why is there no one upset with content creators for not reading the abilities at all? Yes the company could have communicated better but everyone blindly follows content creators and the videos they drop

[broken prairie]

I think they are in a similar vein--bad communication, but I think there's a difference between accounts investing in a team for a specific reason and the devs invalidating half of that reason with an uncommunicated, unknowable change.

[broken prairie]

what do content creators even have to do with this specific issue?

[grim hatch]

Spreading the word on a dot team they were using, meanwhile that screenshot showing dots weren’t meant to be working

[broken prairie]

that screenshot is from a few days after launch. That dot team worked in the most previous beta and the Will Field didn't have text about DoT.

[grim hatch]

Yes I get that it worked with beta. Yes I get devs could have communicated the change was made for launch. But here we have a cc using a dot team and not seeing there the dot wasn’t actually meant to work?

[broken prairie]

"Here" where? And even so, if the player built a dot team and then went into Aurora on live, that's the only time they could discover it didn't work LOL

[worn sparrow]

idk for me imo beta means: anything can change to launch. So i dont really care much about the aurora thing. But the Doki Doki thing was a different matter as it was like that day 1 of launch, and stealable in beta and now they made it unstealable

[broken prairie]

you have to be in battle with Aurora to read her Will Field.

[grim hatch]

Here is the screenshot post launch

These guys made it far and could see dots didn’t work

[broken prairie]

The issue is not changes being a thing from beta to live. That is obviously understandable.

The issue is an entire strategy altering change not being communicated and unknowable until days after the launch (account level 30). This strategy involves steep investment.

[broken prairie]

that is not a dot team.

"But here we have a cc using a dot team and not seeing there the dot wasn’t actually meant to work?"

[grim hatch]

That’s not the point…all I’m saying is the text is there saying dots don’t work

[worn sparrow]

yea the change was just the entire stratagy for ONE single boss being un dottable

its not all bosses

but ONE

so i dont mind

[broken prairie]

Of course, but no one could read the text until account level 30. Do you understand this? LOL

[worn sparrow]

lvl 30 was day 3

hotfix was day 7 or 8

so... u had 3 full days

to read it

[grim hatch]

Exactly

[broken prairie]

There is not just one boss that can't be dotted. Regardless, people invested in Shadow Sania because she could clear Aurora and Terrormaton, even though she isn't viable in other PvE content/PvP

[worn sparrow]

?? all shell content except sharon

She can clear Terror still

just not aurroa

wdym

[broken prairie]

There are also bosses in Ember Trek etc

[worn sparrow]

u dont farm those...

if u think 1 team is end all be all

[broken prairie]

But you can use other invested units in those??

[worn sparrow]

this aint the game for u

[broken prairie]

I don't think that

[broken prairie]

you're over here saying "could read the Will Field day 3" like that exempts the devs 😂

[worn sparrow]

O.o

[broken prairie]

Yes, you're quoting me?

[shy nest]

https://etheria.xd.com/us/news/single?id=v8lsquMEZZYP

[broken prairie]

I didn't say "invest in Shadow Sania and you don't need any other teams"

[shy nest]

Go into the patch notes and ctrl-f Aurora

I don't even own shadow sania so I got no horse in this race my beef is that they did something and didn't put it in the patch notes

Doesn't matter if it was bug, if they fix it, they have to put it in the notes

[broken prairie]

I can't believe anyone is, like, defending the devs in this situation LOL

[trim mesa]

Rock is a troll and rage baiter, just ignore them and wait for them to go away. Responding just keeps them around

[worn sparrow]

lol dot team being useless is your main focal point about the aurora change

[broken prairie]

Nah, you just can't keep up with the conversation, I guess.

I didn't say DoT is useless.

[shy nest]

Maybe for other people but I have been constant in going after the devs for not disclosing everything they do in their patch notes

Keep arguing about Sania being useless or not all you want since a lot of people want to avoid that the devs have done something objectively bad that even c admits it's bad so arguing if shadow sania is useless or not is the only place where both sides can still make valid arguments

I'm not even gonna step in the shadow sania is useless or not discourse since I didn't own shadow sania in both the beta and this launch

[broken prairie]

It's funny when I'm not even making the argument she's useless--she obviously has uses, but they were objectively diminished in a big way that players couldn't make sound judgements about because of the dev communication etc. So I'm right there with you re: what the biggest issue here is.

[shy nest]

This whole misinformation and confusion about the shadownerf happening during that hotfix could've been entirely avoided if they put it in the initial prelaunch patch note

[worn sparrow]

this came off as shes doesnt have uses aside from terror

[broken prairie]

It's just true? She isn't viable in some PvE, and she certainly isn't a PvP unit right now.

[worn sparrow]

that is why i said shells

so farming shells isnt pve?

10 bosses only 1 boss is dot immune

[broken prairie]

Should I screenshot what I said, or can you try reading it again?

[worn sparrow]

???

[broken prairie]

Yes. Now tell me, can she clear Aurora?

just simple yes or no here

[worn sparrow]

holy crap, do u think Aurora is the only boss in the game?

[broken prairie]

So that's a no.

Is there other pve content she isn't viable in? Yes or no?

hahaha

[paper basin]

Even when we do get patch notes it's "fixed abnormal buff on X boss" and it can completely brick your team without you knowing

[broken prairie]

100%. I was just as upset about that.

[worn sparrow]

read what u said

even though she istn viable in other PVE content]\

[shy nest]

Excellent point even if they put it on the patch notes we could've just gotten another abnormal buffs in dokidoki situation

[broken prairie]

If you say "No" to "Is there other pve content she isn't viable in?" then what I said is accurate.

[worn sparrow]

??

there is other content she is viable in

[broken prairie]

I see you're struggling

[worn sparrow]

like i said the shells

[broken prairie]

Yeah, I didn't say she isn't viable in all other content or anything about shells.

[worn sparrow]

how much closer do i have to zoom in

[paper basin]

wow, 2 units to do the job of 1

[broken prairie]

Are you unable to read the word "other?"

[paper basin]

in 4 unit content

[worn sparrow]

other refering to terror and aurora

[broken prairie]

there is other pve content she can't do

[worn sparrow]

u said in your sentece

[broken prairie]

what? LMAO

[worn sparrow]

u used a comma

[broken prairie]

I am convinced you can't read

in that sentence, I am saying people invested with those two dungeons as the primary factors.

And that there is other pve content she isn't good in, and she isn't good in pvp.

[worn sparrow]

the reword it properly

like is it that hard? when you use Aurora and Terror and the isnt viable in other PVE Content

[broken prairie]

I am just breaking down how to read and understand text for you here, since you're struggling to keep up.

[paper basin]

what was already mentioned?

[worn sparrow]

Aurora and terror

[shy nest]

I'm just gonna put this out there that usually the person arguing semantics is on the losing side

[worn sparrow]

shells were not mentioned

untill after

[broken prairie]

you mentioned shells, I wasn't talking about them.

So, aside from this L you've taken here, it's not even really about Aurora being DoT immune. That's fine if they want her to be. But to not have that information available until days after release is a major failing on their part because it invalidates a strategy players already invested in. It's a major communication issue.

Are you deleting these messages or are you being Mod'd? either way is funny

[worn sparrow]

Talking to yourself is weird

[broken prairie]

😂

[shy nest]

Devs change something and don't put it on the patch notes like basically 95% of game companies = I sleep

Someone says something I can argue semantics on = Real stuff

[broken prairie]

argue semantics and eat dirt while doing it 😂

biiiiiig

[shy nest]

Ate so much dirt he buried himself no longer making any arguments and doing the haha why are you taking this so serious route with that little final quip thinking he just dropped some bars or something

[broken prairie]

after he deleted a comment saying he was losing brain cells

[shy nest]

Damn he was quick on the draw I didn't even see that