SSania guide

[boreal briar]

I call bullshit on that

Because if the times that it fails to land for multiple debuffs at 100% chance base not considering eff acc

I could win the lottery already

I feel like they increased the base resist chance for inferno

Rather than giving them eff res

[somber island]

its theoretically how it should work lol

as explained by the devs themselves in their podcast

[boreal briar]

I know

But I call bullshit on that

Cause clearly they tuned the mobs specifically for each stage

[somber island]

😂

[boreal briar]

As we can see from the recent patch notes where the stupid fucking astarte mob has 50% eff acc

[somber island]

mobs have eff fyi

[boreal briar]

Which means that with a 50% chance of landing that stun

[somber island]

so even when their skills say 30% chance to land stun

[boreal briar]

Those mobs have 100% chance to land the stun

And it stacks with multiple mobs

[somber island]

its actually 60% bc they have a whole lot of eff acc

[boreal briar]

So I call bullshit on the base resist chance for inferno mobs

Cause you don't go from occasionally missing the debuff

To always fucking missing the debuff from hell to inferno

[somber island]

right

i mean

terrormaton and dokidoki doubled in hp

from hell4 to inferno

terrormaton doubled in damage

[boreal briar]

Cause if you don't proc the debuff it doesn't say resist so if eff res works how it says

[somber island]

so is rengo

[boreal briar]

It won't say resist

[somber island]

yes it just wont say anything

[boreal briar]

So if you're resisting it's that 10% chance

[somber island]

or it may say resist

idk

[boreal briar]

"10%" chance

[somber island]

but it depends how they code

[boreal briar]

Which I call bullshit

[somber island]

lol

[boreal briar]

I feel like in inferno it's more like 20% at least

[somber island]

im missing with 220 effacc kazuyo s3 lol

idk

[boreal briar]

You don't just resist 3 chances of DoT + 2 chances of DoT + 2 chances of DoT + 1 chance of extend

At minimum 260% eff acc on your units

All in the same run

And it happens consistently

[somber island]

i honestly and, respectable to your saying

dont think eff acc is the real issue

i think speed is

[boreal briar]

Nothing to do with speed

I can't be any faster in SHoyan without lapping the mobs and that's a problem

You don't want to apply the stun before the mobs are stunned

[somber island]

you can miss a debuff here and there thats fine

but when you need 330 speed to out speed something

[boreal briar]

Which means if you want to run DoT in SHoyan and you're capped at 253 cause any higher Obol will stun the mobs while they are stunned

[somber island]

which is 15 + speed on all modules

thats ridicoulous

[boreal briar]

Speed is definitely not the problem

[somber island]

bro have you tried the heinrich stage

[boreal briar]

I already cleared it

And you don't need to outspeed them to clear

You just have to outspeed Lian

Cause Lian is what kills you when she ults

You need a staller + sustain

Both need to outspeed Lian

[somber island]

well you see

every fucking boss in this game

[boreal briar]

And outspeeding Lian only needs about 260

[somber island]

have a ramping rage mechanic

[boreal briar]

I know cause I tuned it myself

[somber island]

its like

if you dont kill it in 5 turns

you die

[boreal briar]

That has nothing to do with speed

That has to do with damage output

[somber island]

speed is damage

[boreal briar]

And speed is not the only thing detemining how much you output

[somber island]

turns is damage

[boreal briar]

But you don't have to

[somber island]

one of the more effective damage output

[boreal briar]

I've cleared every PVE thing

It's actually not

Because you sacrifice so much stats for the extra speed

Speed to a certain extent yes

This is always the case in every turn based PVE game

But there is no point going extreme 330 speed

And 200+ is very reasonably achieveable

[somber island]

260 is 9+ on every piece

[boreal briar]

And I'm telling you you don't need it cause I cleared everything without

Nope

That is false

[somber island]

yes

[boreal briar]

Cause you can roll shells

[somber island]

with shell passive

unless you giga rich and have gold lattice

to level up skill 1

[boreal briar]

Only 4 pieces have +9

One is + 3

One is + 6

[somber island]

or swift smite

[boreal briar]

Yeap but that's all possible sources of speed

You can't just ignore one part and say

OMG ITS SO HARD

It's very possible

And I'm using some trashy flat stat piece with + 3 speed on the swiftsmite

My shell isn't even maxed either

So you can take out the swift smite

Roll better on your shell

And still achieve 270 ish

Without all pieces being +9

[somber island]

its 8.16

average

on my holden

to get to 264

[boreal briar]

Yea but you don't need 264 for Terromaton

You just have to outspeed your team

[somber island]

with a red speed passive

[boreal briar]

264 is IF you want to outspeed terror

Which you don't need to

[somber island]

which you dont need to

[boreal briar]

Also Holden has lower base speed so yes he does need more speed

[somber island]

but you need way more bulk to not to

[boreal briar]

You don't

Not if you're running Artisan on all

And max levelled all

[somber island]

i mean

if you run 4 artison

you can clear everything

with 8 minute

[boreal briar]

It's not even 8 min for my Inferno clear

[somber island]

thats like the first clears of every inferno stage

back then

[boreal briar]

Yeap but you need to start somewhere

You don't just bust into inferno and start clearing it sub minute

That's a fucking boring game

Obviously back when you lacked gear

You're gonna be slow

But as you farm you get more gear and improve your gear you get better and faster

[somber island]

i understand your point

but 8 minutes

on manual

[boreal briar]

Yea so?

[somber island]

to get a 2 matrix 2 substat piece of shit

[boreal briar]

That's besides the point

[somber island]

that doesnt feel good does it

[boreal briar]

Drops are shit and that's a different problem

[somber island]

drops are propotional to clear speed

[boreal briar]

It has nothing to do with whether you should just bust into inferno and start clearing it super easy

[somber island]

if i garentee get a 3 matrix 3 subs piece

id do 8 minute manual

[boreal briar]

If that's the case might as well say you don't need to build units and just ask them to give you free gear

[somber island]

its about the playing experience

[boreal briar]

My friend farmed hell IV instead of inferno back during 2x

Now he's top in RTA with good gear

[somber island]

i did too

[boreal briar]

You don't need to farm inferno to get ahead

[somber island]

i farmed aurora in 2x lol

same thing

[boreal briar]

You should be farming hell IV first to get some good gear

Then going to reliably clear Infenro

[somber island]

tbh hell4 gear no difference than inferno

[boreal briar]

If you want to force inferno

That's on you

For doing 8 minute auto clears

[somber island]

its just how does the players feel

[boreal briar]

Yea and they are stupid

That's it

Omg I'm missing out farming inferno

I could farm inferno during 2x and farmed like 20-30 exp pots and got jack all with 2 usable pieces

Usable not good

I went to farm Hell IV and got a ton of good speed stuff

There's alot of problems with the game

[somber island]

i did the same thing when i realized i only get 30% wr in 2x on doki inferno

which is why i moved to jell4 aurora

[boreal briar]

Like inferno drops being absolute garbage

[somber island]

but thats the thing

inferno drops

are garbage

[boreal briar]

Correct

[somber island]

for its difficulty

[boreal briar]

So go farm Hell IV

???

The problem with Inferno is not that it's hard and has garbage drops

It's that even if you CAN farm it reliably it still has garbage drops

[somber island]

right

[boreal briar]

Garbage drops is the problem

Cause difficulty will be solved with better gear

Which you can get from farming Hell IV

[somber island]

vice versa

if inferno isnt that hard

people wont complain about the garbage drops

[boreal briar]

No

People still will

[somber island]

its the idea that

[boreal briar]

OMG WHY MY ENDGAME FARM HAS GOLD SHELLS

No

[somber island]

people spend weeks getting deecnt gear to farm inferno

to get shit

[boreal briar]

complainers will always complain

They will always find the next lowest thing to complain about

Now they complain about difficulty

Then when they can clear

They complain about drops

Then when drops are easier

[somber island]

both are worth complaining tbh

[boreal briar]

They complain about stat rolls

It's every single gacha game ever

[somber island]

its funny you dont see it as much in e7

barely any

for people truly invested in the game

[boreal briar]

That's cause right now most of the people who care already have good gear

Cause it's been years

And E7s problem

Is powercreep

[somber island]

the best part of e7 is how little powercreep there is

[blazing sphinx]

heavenz6969 has been warned

Reason: Spam

[somber island]

a character released 7 years ago

is one of the most powerful character rn

ddr, a free unit

is top 5 meta unit for 3 years

the fact that they rework and buff old units

make units never go out of meta

they just cycle

like a wheel

sure they will have down tie

time

[boreal briar]

I don't know but my friends who play E7 who rank top in RTA and guild war complains about new units countering older stuff and them having to pull it to compete so

[somber island]

but every unit is unique enough to comeback soon or latyer

[boreal briar]

I quit cause I hated the change gear cost gold garbage

[somber island]

idk i used to be top 1k in rta so

id pull like a ml unit every 3 month and be fine

which the game gives me more than enough currency to do so

[boreal briar]

Not in recent months

[muted gale]

wait does dot team work on rengo inferno?

[somber island]

nope

immu

[muted gale]

sad

[meager quiver]

quick question: why the codex on ssania for auto runs? Don't you want her to s1 ideally? The codex would make her waste turns using s3

[devout stone]

I'm getting rekt in terra inferno, which should I fix?

[west karma]

She uses s2 over s3 - with Codex you get two s2s and delay s3 by one more turn.

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496

holden missing crit and eff acc

team in general missing bulk

valerian is a bit too slow

[trail oracle]

[devout stone]

Tks appreciate feedback, missing bulk as in def/hp?

[somber island]

Yes

Def > hp too

Holden also too slow, need 264

[devout stone]

Gotcha!

[somber island]

Especially with low bulk

[magic flower]

is obol a must for hoyan clears? I'm looking at all the clears and they all use obol for some reason

[somber island]

Celine or any cc works

Obol best tho

If you run stuff like kaziyo you can't use aoe

[magic flower]

alright i might as well build him then

thanks

is there an alternative to heinrich/holden for terror?

ideally an sr unit lol

[empty jewel]

How viable is sania on aurora if I use holden

[empty jewel]

What are the best shells for val and lingluo

[proven terrace]

Does Lily Valerian Holden Ssania Fangus works for Terror?

Fangus s1 and s2 max
Ssania s1 max
Lily s1 max

[rustic moth]

still useless

[rustic moth]

that's my team, yep

statline if you want it

fails occasionally, not often though

[proven terrace]

Oh ty!!

Who is 6star?

[rustic moth]

for skill lvls as well:
lily - 5/1/1
holden - 1/1/1
Fangus - 1/5/3
val - 1/1/5
ssania - 5/1/1

just lily, rest 5* lvl 45

some 6* holden just to get the spd necessary

it's 263 min(possibly 262/261, but haven't tested)

[boreal briar]

Bruh have you not read Auroras mechanic

[empty jewel]

I know it has immunity but idk where it states that

[boreal briar]

Will field

You need to enter the stage

@empty jewel

[magic flower]

is there any non SSR debuf stripper or am I just screwed for terror

[boreal briar]

There is

Mizuki Makoto

I kept telling people to pick up a copy of Holden when he was here too

[vapid coral]

Wait do you mean strip buffs or cleanse debuffs?

Cleanse: yang
buff strip: turandot

[dense meadow]

Man this Nico inferno team slaps

[mint goblet]

What are the upgrades/sets of each person

[serene cypress]

replace one of them except ssania with fangus

[quartz stag]

I dont have holden, who can i use instead of him?

[boreal briar]

People really need to start learning to read and check in game

You need a non blue dispeller on turn 1

Gee I wonder who fits that bill

[quartz stag]

Who hurt you man?

DAMN

[boreal briar]

I'm just tired of people asking the same damn question again and again

Without even bothering to check in this very same thread

I've already answered this multiple times

[quartz stag]

Get a job bro 😭 🙏

[boreal briar]

I mean you guys come in expecting people to help

Then you tell the people who help to get a job

Nice

People need to help you unconditionally and they cannot be annoyed

Entitled much

[dense meadow]

why? it never loses

[junior dove]

Where can I see ssania builds Scroll through lots of messages

[untold widget]

what set combo for ssania if you go for codex instead of artisan? o.o

[astral yarrow]

how does stride work on ssania?

[astral yarrow]

pinged messages

[trail oracle]

Could work but you don't want her to advance too much and detonate too early

Unless you build her slow and tanky ig

[cinder cargo]

stride sounds awful

[serene cypress]

was just suggesting for faster clear, but ye if you're gud with that, it's totally fine

[boreal briar]

You have two ways of building SSania

Either fast and detonate twice or slow and detonate once

Personally I prefer the fast one

Cause sometimes RNG just fucks you and the boss moves too many times like SHoyan and Inferno Terror

And the debuffs wear out

Like whether you land your speed debuffs

Whether minions get stunned

I might as well run fast and detonate twice

[somber island]

2 detonate is slower than 1 big detonate

Bc of the s2 with codex and the additional dots you get with lily drag and fangus you get so much more value on second s2 it out damage fast build

Whatever works work tho

[boreal briar]

Yea but that requires you to build two codex

If you don't mind farming for that you can

But if you run 2 detonate you can run artisans

And be unlikely to randomly die

So really it's personal choice

[somber island]

True

[serene cypress]

i just use codex is it's more auto friendly

[boreal briar]

I can't get codex to work

So I just run fast

And detonate twice

[finite niche]

Is SSania used anywhere else besides terror, niconana or hoyan?

[distant tartan]

does battlewill proc on fangus followup??

[serene cypress]

ye, fast with codex for me

it's just more consistent

[boreal briar]

Ember Trek, Anisync Echoes, Ethernet Rally,

Almost all the last few non boss stage are cleared with DoT team with SSania

[serene cypress]

ye, heard that ember bosses can be dot

[boreal briar]

Bosses can't

The mini SSR fights can

At least not the ones that matter

Like Astarte Phoebe Apate

They can't be DoT

[serene cypress]

i meant ethernetrally

lol

I'm at 3rd map now, I'm just procrastinating

[eternal heart]

What would the turn order be for this team

What modules/shell do i put on them swiftrush timeweave?

[astral yarrow]

what comp for inferno shoyan?

obol codex ssania codex fangus arti?

idk who to put last tho

celince

or valeria

n

[trail oracle]

Celince

[astral yarrow]

are the shells alright?

[trail oracle]

Yes

[serene cypress]

🧐 why would the codex strat doesn't work on ssania if no lily

it's wut i use

and it's way more consistent compared to other shells I've used

[winged bough]

For inferno hoyan I run S Sania Fangus and Obal. I make sure they out speed boss and go in order of Obal Fangus then S Sania. They're mostly wearing codex

[severe rune]

can holden be replaced by heinrich

[boreal briar]

Yes

For terror right?

[dense shoal]

is codex a must for veronika?

[rustic moth]

w/o ssania yes, with ssania she's just there to remove the immu, val can handle the cheat death bit

[magic flower]

How fast does ssania/lily/fangus need to be in this team for terror? Struggling to take enough turns to apply enough dots

[untold widget]

1 codex is enough nightmare for me, thanks, ill gonthe artisan way

[native pollen]

why does Holden need 264+ speed?

[severe rune]

Ye

[pulsar meteor]

Remove immunity from the boss

[native pollen]

thx for answering, but why that speed tho? my holden is currently not at that speed yet but it seems to be doing ok 🤔

[fallow pier]

Holden needs that spd to take first action before the boss kills you

[white smelt]

To go before main body

On terror

[gentle depot]

Im trying to use this atm, how could i imporve it

[trail oracle]

Farm shells

[gentle depot]

Which ones?

[blazing sphinx]

roastedwafflez has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[trail oracle]

Here

Max them out

[open temple]

what shell on ssania?

mine's on bramble swftrush

[arctic kestrel]

Non F2P Comp ( Not whale but if u have the SSR )
SSania
Freya
Lily
Fangus

^ Any replacement for Lily here?

[trail oracle]

Artisan/Codex/Amber

[trail oracle]

Freya/Dorothy Wisher

[serene cypress]

red kazuyo

[dense meadow]

Red Kazuyo is the way

[austere pilot]

my comp for no lily is ssania val fangus holden cachi

cachi should be 2nd fastest and should achieve 264 he wont get overlapped by the boss

[split prism]

yo, hey guys, holden is a must for the comp? i dont have him, got veronika and mia

have freya, lily, ssania, fangus, valerian

[tame lichen]

Vero should work

[keen spoke]

Vero better or hein for terror inferno?

[rustic moth]

hein has less chances to get 10%'d
vero gives you extra bulk occasionally from stealing terror's buffs

[split prism]

got it, thanks

[cunning crystal]

quick qn codex vs halloween for ssania?

[rustic moth]

I could see a world where halloween would work, but codex is nicer to guarantee extend fangus/obol debuffs

[split prism]

got viper today

[ebon crown]

What would you run on Holden

[serene cypress]

gigabyte

[potent shadow]

benis

[slow tulip]

This guide is a month old is it still solid or? Trying to build a DoT team without Lily/Holden. I have SSania/Freya/Kloss/Doki (and other SSRs) plus almost all SRs, seeing a lot of different ways to do this around the internet. I dont see Marvell mentioned but his Res Down is supposedly good for this if you don't have Holden (also not mentioned). trying to prepare a plan for tmrw and be efficient

my gear is garbo so the speed isn't an option but maybe after 2x I'll be closer. going for tanky dot team though

[cinder cargo]

should plan around farming doki more than anything for 2x, if your gear isn't that good in the first place, you'd most likely have to manual farm terror and going through 1000+ stamina of manualing you will want to die

but marvelle isn't mentioned too much for terror because hell+ terror has push resistance making marvelle lose a lot of value, holden is still fine since he has dispel and a 100% turn meter down-, which is still very impactful

[trail oracle]

I suggest checking the clear history on where you are stuck right now as it's the best reference you can get

[slow tulip]

oh good to know. hope I get holden someday then but not before lily.

[slow tulip]

I think I still have to manual hell doki. I can auto hell 2 terror at least. I'll have to check at the beginning of the event

[slow tulip]

Ive been referring to this but often it's full of teams with 1-2 units (at minimum) that I don't have. almost always a lily on every clear for both lists 😦 hope they banner her or powercreep her with a banner

[trail oracle]

We can only hope that they release a RGB lily version for dot teams

[slow tulip]

I've seen like 2 people say Fuqiu is an RGB lily alternative but that sounds like fake news. I haven't dug super deep into either kit. I'm gonna play around with Freya/Kloss/dark Cachi in my dot team and maybe level Doki up this weekend to mess around w.

I'm tempted to pull Fuqiu but I'm sticking to perm banner for now to pray for Lily.

[trail oracle]

Maybe you could make it work, but you'd need everyone to be faster

[slow tulip]

for which? Doki?

[trail oracle]

dot is bad on doki, could use on terro and shell farming

[slow tulip]

I'm talking about using Doki, like as a homie on my team 🤣 but this is actually the issue with seeing how/where/with whom I can use her, the search thinks I'm talking about the boss fight. 😂 no worries tho

I pulled her and her kit is interesting but some say too random etc idk

[trail oracle]

Oh, yeah doki could be a good turn manipulator

[serene cypress]

which animuses u have

[slow tulip]

Massiah, Yeli, SSania, Xiada, Doki, Freya, Kloss, Rahu, Borgne, then the given SSRs. All SRs except red Chiaki and red Dorothy.

[serene cypress]

my terror auto team is
ssania val fangus holden cachi

you're missing holden

but Mizuki should do the job

[slow tulip]

I wanna build Cachi. wish I had Holden. you're using the same setup as seanb

[serene cypress]

holden is pretty gud cuz of his atk down and res down

[slow tulip]

just for the dispel?

[serene cypress]

yep

[slow tulip]

I'll try that.

ty

and I'll pray for Holden. if I had SSania when the banner was up maybe I would have pulled him lol

[serene cypress]

[fringe crane]

What are the best supports for dot team ?

[rustic moth]

lily final answer

[fringe crane]

Can doki work as a budget lily

[distant tartan]

doki will mess up your turn order if u want ssania to go last and doesn't work with Valerian in haze form...other than that she will help reduce skill cd (sadly not for shells), more damage, more speed and dispel debuffs.

[serene cypress]

u don't need lily or any turn meter push

[trail mauve]

if i play a fast ssania for inferno crear, codex/swiftrush-battlewill and the one that do speed and acc?

if a good option¿?

no lily

[winged bough]

Ss is very flexible build wise. I've cleared and actively farm swapping. Swift bramble works, so does swift battlewill and even bramble battlewill with some swift. It's just important to make sure in your turn order ss is fast enough to extend the debuffs.

[frigid osprey]

Hey guys, sorry if it has been discussed before, but id need some advices for terro inferno, my team : ssania fangus heinrich cachi valerian, i can manage to make heinrich play 1st but then nothing much happens 😄

[ocean raven]

Probably survival issue

[distant tartan]

swap cachi for freya

if u get buff u move fast..if enemy gets debuff u move fast

[frigid osprey]

yes, so i guess module issue ^^

[frigid osprey]

ok ill try

[sudden mason]

got the 3 dots but no lily, how should i build them for inferno shell bosses. all speed and effect acc? what shell is good on who (ssania, obol, fangus)

[merry violet]

Can units counterattack while under amber iced state

[still badger]

No they can't

I don't think OP is still here answering questions ....

[dusty linden]

how do i go to the top of the thread 😭

[tame lichen]

There is a pin

[pure phoenix]

@dire moth I’m officially become a player with Skill issues

[winged bough]

People call it cheese. Its just another mechanic. Otherwise the character wouldn't exist.

Resourcefulness is using all utility at your disposal. Ss is another goat and we know it.

[hallow crane]

does fangus have to turn in front or after ssania?

[tribal patrol]

Preferably before so that sania gets the atk buff and gets boosted by lily more consistently

[hallow crane]

alright, thank you. I kiss your eyes.

[tribal patrol]

Weird but welcome

[still badger]

SSania always go last in DoT team so she can extend DoT turns

[trail mauve]

what sets do you guys run on codex? swift+strive or swift+bul

[white smelt]

Swift bulwark

Strive can be good on someone like vice that taunt

[spare robin]

i just got SSania but, i think it's probably too late to spend lattice on her im assuming, she's only used for terror/hoyan right...

[slow tulip]

ember, ethernet, nico

[pure phoenix]

Finally!!

[white smelt]

Why mia

U have holden

There so many flaws to make it 3 star

[spark latch]

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nazagreezy · Jul 30, 2025, 9:41 PM

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[potent token]

Can someone help me make an early Shadow Sania team? I didn't use any lattices yet. I have 8.

[white smelt]

SSania need S1 max

Lily S1 as well

And u are set

SSania Lily Fangus Obol is the dot team

[potent token]

Thank you!

[winged bough]

Depends on the team for the content. Dot team for hoyan is s sania obol and fangus 4th is optional i like holden for the 4th choice lily works but her speed buff can mess that fight up since if you aren't severely outspeeding then its just better to be at 147 speed and everyone one speed blow that.

Terror for inferno you can run damage dps for a while but for inferno I think i run val s sania fangus and holden for dispel. Must go faster than the boss(not the arm). arm will go first but you wanna go before the boss to dispel and drop his attack

For anisync and some tanker enemies lily obol fangus ling luo. Lily fastest. Manual push up obol have 3 codex and ult spam dots with s sania extend till the enemies dropping with obol perma stunning and getting resets from lily and his codex . Also lily resets codex cds so you can get 4 ults off with obol

[vapid coral]

Do you know how fast you have to be to beat the damaging arm

[celest kestrel]

like 340 lmao?

or was it 330

[vapid coral]

😭

Well I need a solid 100 more speed then

[celest kestrel]

You are not supposed to move ahead of the damage arm...

[vapid coral]

So is this just wrong then?

[vapid coral]

Or am I misunderstanding something

[slow tulip]

yeah it's worded poorly. they mean the turn boost/dispel arm.

actually reading further they're just on crack. you can soak the hit from damage arm to start out it's fine. you want the attack down on Terror before he gets his turn, and you want holden/stripper to take immunity off the boss before your dots come in. the spd needed for that is 264.

they have the arm and boss flipped on turn order.

my runs are like
-I get hit by damaging arm
-Holden atk down and strip
-boss rocks my shi and val cheat death procs if arm hit a squishier member

• fangus s3
  -cachi s3
  -ssania S2
  -boss gets turn meter boosted but still behind Val
  -val goes into S3
  then it's RNG from there due to terror turn meter resistance on Holden S2 and Cachi s2

to be clear this is like, entry level bare minimum for inferno. the late game speed runners do go ahead of the damage arm.

[vapid coral]

Why cachi over obol?

[slow tulip]

element. obol will just die

[vapid coral]

Ahhh I see

Ty for the advice

[slow tulip]

Cachi prevents defense down applications and the turn meter push can be very good if the RNG is on your side

if you wanna see any stats or anything pm me but tag me first cause I don't check msg requests ever. I just forget they exist

my builds are realistic cause I've been screwed on mod rolls lol

[vapid coral]

Ill see what I can come up with if i still can't clear it ill pm you

[vapid coral]

Just cleared inferno for the first time thanks to you ❤️

[slow tulip]

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[slow tulip]

love to hear it!

[celest kestrel]

if u already have fuqui built she could substitute for longer fights if rng is not on your side assuming no lily

[vapid coral]

I literally just pulled 2 lily with the new pull event but I do have fuqui fully built so I could try that cause im currently clearing approx 4/10

With lily i just need to make sure ssania has the most attack right?

[slow tulip]

i want lily so bad. gimme one lmao

[winged bough]

you can absolutely soak the damage just fine but reducing that damage gives you an extra turn of forgiveness. a lot of players get a lot of benefit reducing the damage before the hit is taken in the first place.

[slow tulip]

You need like 340 speed to get past that.

only 264 to put atk down on the boss before he hits though, which is super helpful.

[winged bough]

def dont need 340 speed.

[slow tulip]

You're confused about which thing moves first.

[winged bough]

to outspeeed the arm that hits you. not the boss.

[slow tulip]

the boss moves after arm

way after.

264 outspeeds boss but doesn't come close to outspeeding the arm

you can't outspeed the faster thing but not the slower thing

[winged bough]

no youre correct actually yeah its the boss mb.

to dispel and drop the attack on the boss.

i edited it to prevent the spread of misinfo

[vale marten]

wanna ask whats best ssania team for terror, no lily and holden, is it ssania fangus heinrich valerian nell/dokidoki(?)

[trail mauve]

its battlewill a option? i see a lot of ssanias on terror inferno running codex switf-battlewill

[winged bough]

More of an option if you don't have v survivability problem. I use battlewill on both ss and fangus with holden to lower incoming damage

[celest kestrel]

Its ideal if u have no lily

[trail mauve]

hi guys at least i beat inferno terror i was running ssania-fangus-freya-heinrich and valerian, 2x artisan on freya and heinrich, 2x codex on ssania and fangus y gigabyte on slow valerian. the speeds are tunning like this Heinrich-Freya-Fangus-Ssania the gear is swiftrush-bulk on ssania, fangus swiftrush and battlewill the rest is valerian is the typical hp set with the first bonus of cure to get more hp and freya-heinrich swiftrush mainly as gear to get the speed tuning.

[slow tulip]

Do you have FQ? I was using cachiTG in your Freya slot, but swapped him out for FQ and my runs are much more consistent now.

[trail mauve]

have it yeah

[torpid void]

Something happened with lily? It keeps buffing my holden which has 100 less atk than my ssania?

[random cave]

are you getting attack downed?

[torpid void]

Nope, in terror, I'm moving before main body

[slow tulip]

usually good to post a video and stats cause just about any time someone says "this unexpected interaction is happening" the video or screenshots shows the cause that you're not seeing. rather than people trying to guess

[trail oracle]

Are you running valerian

If holden moves first he will have an atk buff coz of val

[torpid void]

holy sh yes bro, you so smart

[trail oracle]

Just make lily go first, but speed tune ssania so that holden still goes after lily

[torpid void]

If ssania goes first, terror still has the immunity tho

[trail oracle]

yes that's why I said you speed tune them so holden still goes 2nd even with lily boosting ssania

If your lily s2 is only lvl 1, you just make sure your holden is 21-25% faster than your ssania

Ssania won't overtake holden in this case and holden can strip

Before ssania moves