SSania guide

[boreal briar]

Yea exactly my point

[somber island]

I was doing like 20 runs no fail

And now this

[boreal briar]

If it's 10% chance to miss

It shouldn't be that bad

But I watch my runs and I get like fucking 10 debuffs missing in a row

[somber island]

225 acc btw

[boreal briar]

I realised what was going wrong @somber island

I've farmed so much that Holden is actually levelled

So now he has more atk than SSania with an attack buff

Cause I 6* him for the extra speed

[somber island]

Way too whale for me to understand lol

[boreal briar]

I mean that's no whale tho

What

[somber island]

I’m now winning too

With no clear time somehow

[boreal briar]

That's just the game being shit

[somber island]

Spaghetti code

[boreal briar]

The no clear time is a continuous bug

[boreal briar]

And now I'm clearing reliably @somber island

[somber island]

Bc Ssania leveled too?

[boreal briar]

No

I removed Holden's helmet

[somber island]

Lmao

You are now one of us

[boreal briar]

I gave him a level 1 piece since the previous piece only had +3 speed

So it made no diff in reality

[somber island]

Lmao I have Holden on level 1 helmet too

And fangus too

[boreal briar]

Fangus always had level 1 helmet

LOL

[somber island]

And this on Ssania

[boreal briar]

I had no inbetween speed piece

Oh my Lily is using gigabyte

[somber island]

30% attack passive I meant

[boreal briar]

I tested artisan on lily vs no artisan

Oh you mean SSania

[somber island]

Mbmb

[boreal briar]

It didn't make a difference for lily so my lily is using gigabyte

I kinda wanna make a bramble gigabyte for her buy I don't have the data

[somber island]

Mine too

I’m gonna farm out doki and never worry about it again lol

[boreal briar]

You're never gonna farm out Doki

Every new support will need Doki kek

[cinder cargo]

this guy thinks the speed farming ever ends

[quiet cape]

how important is holden in the build for inferno

can i get away with running like freya or something

[white arrow]

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1386386636513869834

hlo m out please,dont know ehat to build in the rebeginning

Someone pls?

[dire moth]

am now awake

[trail mauve]

don't drop diting, like why you want to drop one of the best dps of the game?

[white arrow]

At the early stages material is really rare

Dont know what is a better stronger start, ditting dona ect or this dot team?

[trail mauve]

is more about support than dps early.

a good mix of great support can carry you fine.

[white arrow]

I miss freya. Sadly, and my lian reset is over n 17hours … bad luck i was sitting on this acc and the days went by

[wraith flare]

Oh wait btw, lily with codex? so she casts her s2 twice? isn't it better to just s1 to trigger like ssania follow up attack

[dire moth]

can run codex but this is if u can reset SSania S2 quickly so she triple stacks the DOT

[wraith flare]

Oh so sania on codex as well?

like s2 lily > S2 sania > s2 lily > s2 sania > lily s3 > sania s2 > sania s3?

[dire moth]

yeah unless youre like max invested in speed and can do a two turn move cycle b4 def arm

[wraith flare]

xD

hmm... nah not to that point

was able to now auto hell 4 and beat niconana inferno

but am waiting to get holden before attempting inferno

[dire moth]

nah would be more like S2 lily S2 SSania S2 lily S2 Ssania S3 lily S3 <<<< doing triple stack should be enough to just kill

[wraith flare]

Ohhh hmm... okioki

I've 6 star valerian, next better ssania or lily?

[dire moth]

cause if u have 10 DOT when u cast the first it brings u up to 20 than doing it again brings u up to 30

[wraith flare]

kinda thought of 6 star fangus since he's more squishy...

[dire moth]

but 30 would do 120%

[wraith flare]

but Ig would neex ssania to sustain more to pop dot when all things go bad

[dire moth]

u can i was planning to 6* my fangus

[wraith flare]

oh actually?

[dire moth]

but i ended up well building yang in the meantime

[wraith flare]

xD

fangus needed the most eff acc

so like needs more stats to tank some damage

[dire moth]

yeah

[craggy perch]

does anybody have clear with veronika?

i dont have mia or holden yet

[dire moth]

ill finish maxing out my turandot after i build yang

[terse forum]

What’s the build for Ssania I can’t scroll to the top of this guide on mobile

[dire moth]

#1382334085288169542 message

[astral yarrow]

what would be a decent nico build?

comp

[dire moth]

valerian fangus ssania ( lily if u have ) << autos if no lily run obol should still be able to auto inferno

[astral yarrow]

perfect

no lily sadly

does obol need a lot of investment?

[dire moth]

s3 max

[craggy perch]

is it inferno terror possible to do with veronika instead of holden?

[trail mauve]

does the accuracy works like i have a spell that have 40% chance of appy the debuff with 60% of accuracy if the boss not have res. accuracy is that 100% from apply the debuff?(i know that we can't have 100% always is 90%)

[cinder cargo]

don't think so

seems like if they have no eff res, and you have 100%, you get 2x of your proc chance (but can't be higher than double proc chance -10%)

#1379513463445000212 message

more info here, based on a lot of testing during playtest

[dire moth]

if she can dispel but idk dont have vernoica

[cinder cargo]

she doesn't dispel but she has a buff steal, some diting teams use it instead of dispel

[craggy perch]

im gonna use her with dot team

[cinder cargo]

ya i know was just explaining what she does

and you get also get 1 turn of soulward

[craggy perch]

i wish i had 266 spd on her

[pure phoenix]

Where is my lily?

[west shell]

still meta to go for unbreakable and bramble on ss sania?

or smth like this

[civic hill]

how do i make this fangus any useful XD he always gets targetted by the boss and killed super fast, ive got a decent amount of bulk but the hand and terror love to gun him down hard

should i do a hp% instead of crit rate to add some bulk?

[trail mauve]

its bad idea use artisan with timeweaver - bramble?

[trail mauve]

in late game in the guide says timeweaver with bramble with good substats

i think timeweaver is better because can free a effect accuracy items to get more tanky, but you need better substats than simply use unbreak and bramble

[cinder cargo]

he should not have any crit

esp if you use him for a dot team, it's just speed/bulk/eff acc

[civic hill]

fair enough XD so 2 eff acc, 1 hp% for the cores

[meager dagger]

How do you auto with shadow sania ?

[rustic moth]

tldr outbulk the shitty ai

ssania will just always win vs terror, you just have to live long enough to do so

could also do what a few have tried, which is running Codex on her to have s2 double proc

[lunar scarab]

are there any breakpoints i need to get for speed on lily fangus and ssania, i just reached lvl35 and am now farming niconana

[astral yarrow]

i managed to beat hell 1 finally with this weird comp

and 2

should my fangus go before my ssania?

[dire moth]

nah doesnt matter between those 2

[astral yarrow]

yeah but I feel like the auto kinda runs ssania's active too fast

[dire moth]

normal dw it evens out when your units a bit more buiiilt cause i see your team is mostly 4* and shells of course play a big role when u unlock inferno shells

[shell dew]

if u auto hoyan is celine or obol better?

[rapid saffron]

yo should my lily team up fangus or ssania e.e?

[dire moth]

both are good

[rapid saffron]

bcs i messed my modules to get some more tankiness and fangus got more atk now D:

[dire moth]

obol cheaper to invest but if u invest in celince she carries over to inferno rengokutsu anyways

[dire moth]

ssania she applies more dot than fangus

[shell dew]

oh right, but both can auto ?

[rapid saffron]

made both 5* max level today

[dire moth]

yeah both can auto

[rapid saffron]

nice to know

[shell dew]

I think I do celine then, can u auto rengo with cleine?

[rapid saffron]

just made them both 5* max level

[dire moth]

dont got celince so probably but she just makes dot work on rengo inferno so

[shell dew]

I thought rengo is not dottable

[dire moth]

its alr might be passives on shells 2

[rapid saffron]

i would use ssania fangus celince lily?

[shell dew]

all the teams in there on leaderboard is diting

[rapid saffron]

for rengo i mean

[dire moth]

for rengo yeah

or go celince vale ssania fangus or lily <<< dont have celince so not 2 sure which 4 line up would be better

[rapid saffron]

nice, for nico i didn't try it yet on inferno but i would go for obol cuz blue or ?

[dire moth]

yeah can use obol to auto nico nana inferno

i just use vale lily fangus and ssania tho and it autos inferno nico nana fine

[shell dew]

I thohgt lingluo was better

[rapid saffron]

will try it later when im done farming, i probably can clear it now, got huge upgrades on my dot team with this 2x event

[wheat dagger]

can ssania clear any inferno without lily?

[rustic moth]

yes

just harder

[trail oracle]

Man, can't decide if I'll go jackal or codex on my Ssania

[candid yew]

which 12piece set does ssania want? speed or acc?

[fluid niche]

Do you want bramble and swift rush on ssania/fangus?

Trying to take out Sharon and move to the hoyan boss atm

[trail oracle]

Finally managed to auto inferno hoyan

[trail oracle]

Getting epic shells on inferno stages should be a crime

[keen oriole]

Anyone has successfully run dot team on doki2 hell4 or inferno ?

[trail oracle]

dot are for single target bosses, not suggested using on doki

[keen oriole]

Am hoping for miracle lol

Lacking mocha, xiada and rahu

[trail oracle]

Do you still have your selector?

Xiada is a good pick, can work on doki and aurora

[shell dew]

hey what skills u have maxed I assume lily s1 max and ssanai s1 max right? or do u need more?

[trail oracle]

Yes both lily and ssania S1 is max, both 511

[shell dew]

and celine?

[muted gale]

gz! I just started working on my hoyan inferno team

I can manual but auto eludes me

[trail oracle]

no upgrades

[trail oracle]

I just followed one team on recent clears, she uses codex on celince and jackal on ssania

[muted gale]

no celince 😦

I think I just need to speed tune my team with Kazuyo

and it'll be fine

(it wasnt)

[trail oracle]

It's hard to use kazuyo, I tried. Ssania and lily uses aoe they wake em up

Obol should work, he can stun twice with codex

or if you can speedtune it, halloween could work

[steel nova]

at last he’s getting fangus after like 720ish summons preparing for dot terrormaton

[empty jewel]

Iv been hearing from people that I should say swap bramble for speed

[prisma sapphire]

can i "replace" lily with tsukiyo mi? its the closest i got

[simple moon]

I really wish I could search within thread 😩

Question: Would DokiDoki potentially work instead of Lily for the DoT team? Looking through my options of who I have built rn vs. who isn't

[lunar scarab]

can i just go bramble timeweave on artisan for ssania

[rustic moth]

hear me out, both

[somber island]

depends if you run codex or no

[somber island]

sure, unbreakable gives more sheild with artison tho

[lunar scarab]

damn u make a good point

gonna keep at it then

ty

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496 my line up

if you need

for inferno

[spare birch]

Can someone share their consistent Ssania team setup without lily

[serene cypress]

me i don't have lily, not consistent tho, i have to manual

[spare birch]

H4 or inferno?

[serene cypress]

inferno

[spare birch]

Can u auto h4 with that team?

[serene cypress]

i auto hell 4 like 90%+ winrate

[spare birch]

Cool that is all i need rn until lily comes home

What team do u use?

[serene cypress]

kloss ssania fangus valerian mia

[spare birch]

Will Freya or mio do instead of mia?

for the turn meter push

[serene cypress]

absolutely

i use diff team for inferno tho

[spare birch]

what team?

[serene cypress]

holden mia valerian
then the dot duo

[spare birch]

I can do this team..How invested is ur holden tho?

[serene cypress]

like 240+ spd

[spare birch]

skills?

[serene cypress]

all lvl1

[boreal briar]

Consistent and no Lily dont go in the same sentence sadly

There is a consistent comp that doesnt involve DoT but needs Kloros

[cinder cargo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-j3NRD_Pco

damn look at this hoyan terror inferno clear

[final ferry]

@dire moth I need help with hell 2, 3, 4
I build same as you but i cant pass

[dire moth]

show units

[dire moth]

show builds Modules and shells

[dire moth]

i see unbridle science shell on lily

[final ferry]

what should i improve on?

[dire moth]

need to star up units a bit to i see 4* valerian and fangus

[final ferry]

star up to 5?

[dire moth]

bramble unbreaking on fangus

full speed on ssania 12 set

^^^^ dont need them to have high atk since dot is 4% of maximum health

[final ferry]

but i dont have Effect acc on speed build

[empty jewel]

I have no clue who codex is

[dire moth]

yeah gonna need to replace some of those modules

[final ferry]

ok so i need to farm more dokidoki yeah?

[dire moth]

yeah its okay to use pink pieces or even gold

^^^^ even with gold pieces u should be able to do hell 4

[final ferry]

i cant brother 😦

[dire moth]

was using gold pieces to do hell 4 than swapped to mythics eventually

[empty jewel]

What's the speed tuning for terror

[dire moth]

but yeah farm doki doki for proper sets

[final ferry]

you are another level to me

[dire moth]

proper sets > proper stats

^^^^ use gold pieces

if u dont have access to mythic bramble and unbreaking obviously

[final ferry]

@dire moth should i use Holden?

[dire moth]

233 hell 4 inferno its like 260 pretty sure

[dire moth]

on inferno

[final ferry]

oh ok

because i just got Holden

[final ferry]

im still farming for bramble set

[boreal briar]

I mean you should have been farming 2x for exp for the past two days

And prowess

[final ferry]

what stat should i focus on?

[boreal briar]

If you used your 2x to farm modules RIP your account

[empty jewel]

Was talking about this type

[boreal briar]

So there's no reason why you can't 5* your chars at minimum

[final ferry]

yes i was under level 30 when 2x

so i cant farm that yet

now im reached level 30 thats why im asking

[dire moth]

effec acc 1 crit rate 1 defence

^^^^ this is for inferno terror

pvp just go full def

with 1 effect res

[final ferry]

ok i got Effect acc on bramble like 3 piece thats enough? or i need to farm more?

[boreal briar]

Only 1 eff acc for Holden?

I kept missing my dispel with 100% eff acc

I feel like you need two

[final ferry]

need 2 Eff acc for Holden?

[dire moth]

i dont feel like i miss with just 1

maybe im lucky

[boreal briar]

There's no exact speed tuning to follow, cause depending on your gear and your chars and skills and shells it can change

You just have a minimum speed for debuffer and dispellers for inferno if you need for them to go first

Then you arrange your units accordingly

[final ferry]

hmm so for Holden what module should i use and what stat? do you know @boreal briar

[boreal briar]

You don't use Holden

Bruh read what SSania said

Man literally replied you

[final ferry]

oh ok

mb

sorry

so just Freya?

[boreal briar]

Use other units for now

Stuff that makes you cycle faster

Mio Freya etc

[final ferry]

im farming module on doki now 😦

x2 even i wasnt level 30 yet

:/

[boreal briar]

Did you farm exp for 2x

Yes or no

[final ferry]

yes

lots

[boreal briar]

Then go 5* all of those units

You should be able to

Max level them as well

What difficulty Doki are you farming??

[final ferry]

but i dont have enough for star upgrade

nightmare 3 atm

cant touch hell yet

[spare birch]

Swift/Bramble (or) Unbreakable/Bramble on Fangus?

Which one is better?

[final ferry]

unbreakable and bramble i think

[spare birch]

But don’t u need him fast to land those dots frequently

[final ferry]

have you max his skill 1 and 2?

if already you dont have to worry since you have lily max skill 1 as well

[boreal briar]

You know you can craft shadow prints from lower shadow prints right?

[final ferry]

yes i used it all already

[boreal briar]

Hmm

[spare birch]

I dont have lilly tho

[boreal briar]

It doesn't matter, use whichever you have as long as you have about 200-230 speed

If you want to target for Inferno

[final ferry]

200 speed 😮

bro you are racing

[spare birch]

Is it even possible to hit such high speed without swift set?

[boreal briar]

Bro minimum speed now in arena is 300

200 speed is like piss

It's so fucking easy to hit

[final ferry]

how can you do that?

[boreal briar]

I slowed my SSania down cause she had too much speed

But I have no speed set

[final ferry]

ofc you beat doki hell thats why

i havent 😦

[boreal briar]

Nothing to do with Doki hell

I can do this even on gold gears

[final ferry]

really?

[boreal briar]

You need red shells

[final ferry]

oh

[spare birch]

ssania aint good for doki

[final ferry]

which red shell?

[boreal briar]

Red shells gives 35 speed + 13 from passive

That's already 48 speed

[final ferry]

i will farm it tmr then

[boreal briar]

You're not farming shells?

Bruh

It's exp > prowess > shells then modules

Don't touch modules unless you can't farm Hell Niconana

[final ferry]

oh shit i dont even touch shell much

this is all i have

[boreal briar]

Go farm shells and build them

No fucking wonder you can't clear stuff

[final ferry]

awww

thats why

[spare birch]

Shells shud be ur first priority as the stats are fixed and not rng

[boreal briar]

Red shells are 100% priority

[final ferry]

which shell should i get for all?

[boreal briar]

Artisan is always good

The answer is it depends on what you want to do but you can't go wrong with Artisan and Gigabyte

[final ferry]

what stat is good with them?

[boreal briar]

Wdym what stat

Stats for shells are fixed

[final ferry]

like this

[boreal briar]

I'm confused what?

Stats are fixed

[final ferry]

i mean Matrix

sorry

[boreal briar]

There's no fixed rule

Use what matrixes you need

[final ferry]

oh ok thank you for advise brother

[boreal briar]

Like if you build swift 12pc

Use swift

[west shell]

are these fine?

[final ferry]

i will start to farm shell now

[boreal briar]

Fine for?

[west shell]

terrormaton

[final ferry]

damn good stuff

[boreal briar]

which difficulty

For inferno? no

[west shell]

nah not inferno

like

nightmare

[boreal briar]

That's fine

[final ferry]

nightmare its ok bro

[west shell]

should i swap fanguses for sanias

or what

[final ferry]

im using gold module still pass 😄

[west shell]

is this the problem the

[final ferry]

doesnt matter with nightmare bro

[west shell]

maybe i just suck

[final ferry]

Holden as Sania said

[boreal briar]

You don't need Holden

[final ferry]

just play on inferno

[boreal briar]

There's nothing to dispel that matters if you using the DoT comp

[west shell]

why

hes in dot team tho

[boreal briar]

Okay let me ask you

Why are you bringing Holden

[boreal briar]

Guys you need to read and think

Why are people bringing Holden?

Because he dispels

DoT goes through defense

So do you need the dispel for the def?

No

[west shell]

then why do people bring him

jst asking

[boreal briar]

Because for inferno terror starts with immunity

3 turns

[west shell]

ah

[final ferry]

can we jump into a room and talk?

[west shell]

should i switch with buffer>

[boreal briar]

Why are you failing?

Are you dying?

Or not fast enough

[final ferry]

maybe

[latent radish]

Is SSania priority to 6*?

[final ferry]

idk i maxed her

[west shell]

nbm guys

i just destroyed it

maybe im on the spectrum

[final ferry]

@west shell see

doesnt matter with nightmare

[west shell]

what am i looking at

[final ferry]

its a problem in hell

[west shell]

i see

i cant do hell cause i rerolled for this account so im only 30 on this acc

[boreal briar]

No

[final ferry]

in nightmare even i dont have any red shell i still beat them

[boreal briar]

You don't really need SSania to be too fast imo cause then she ults before you stack enough DoT

[final ferry]

just need to tank enough am i right?

[boreal briar]

6* only matters for raw DPSes and characters that need speed

In my opinion

[west shell]

i dont need atk down?

[boreal briar]

You can bring other people

[final ferry]

can bring cachi

[boreal briar]

It's the same diff if you bring a defense up

team pusher

You do more damage faster so you take less damage

Atk down is not the only thing that makes you tankier

[west shell]

or what if i jst build holden so i have him for inferno too

yk what i mean'

[boreal briar]

You can but you're not building him

What you have isn't a build

Ya know what I mean

You aren't giving him significant gear cause he needs to be about 260 speed for inferno

[west shell]

facts but like i was trying get him to hit first

[boreal briar]

So whatever gear you have on him

Can be slapped on someone else

And they will function

Unless you're asking me if you should skill him then yes

Minimum S3 level 3

Or whichever level it is that raise the chance to 50%

I can't rmb

[empty jewel]

What's sania's skill priority again?

[frozen panther]

I am dead

Hoyan meta

[boreal briar]

S1

[boreal briar]

In PVP?

[final ferry]

@boreal briar i need to farm Aurora can you help me with a team for auto in nightmare 1?

[boreal briar]

No you don't need to farm Aurora

Not yet

[final ferry]

i dont have module for Fangus

the strive

[boreal briar]

My point remains

[frozen panther]

Terr

[boreal briar]

You don't need to farm Aurora

And you don't need strive

Not yet

I didn't use strive on my Fangus until I was trying to clear Inferno

[final ferry]

so what module should i use for fangus?

[frozen panther]

Hoyan defeat terr inf

[boreal briar]

Non of Aurora sets are must have until later on when you can farm Hell III

[final ferry]

ok

so atm what module should i use for him?

[boreal briar]

Right now for gold gear just swiftrush on everyone

Unbreakable if you have

Bramble if you have

But what you should be farming as I've said again

Is shells

Don't come back until you have 5 built red shells

[final ferry]

im doing rn

[boreal briar]

I mean you don't need Hoyan for Terror tho

[frozen panther]

I got hoyan

I haven't lily

Bye I am going build hoyan best

[boreal briar]

Sure I guess

[frozen panther]

[boreal briar]

But you don't need Hoyan and she needs a ton of lattices for her to work in PVE

If you don't have anyone else I guess she's your best option

But she's by no means meta

[frozen panther]

[boreal briar]

SSania is meta

Cause the gear requirements is pretty low for a similar speed clear

Just because Hoyan CAN do it doesn't mean she suddenly becomes meta

[final ferry]

doing rn :/

[frozen panther]

without lily

[boreal briar]

Yea Kloros also works

[cinder cargo]

plenty of clears without lily

#1384714748712583168 message

auto 50% wr without lily, has stats he used for you too

[frozen panther]

Not auto

[cinder cargo]

it's auto

read the title

[boreal briar]

Bro

[frozen panther]

Insaa him

[frozen panther]

Ok let see

[boreal briar]

It's with Lily

[boreal briar]

Just not reliable

[cinder cargo]

auto 50% manual 100% wr

[boreal briar]

I'm gonna say I don't consider anything farming if you have to play manually

It's not sustainable long run

Not unless you're unemployed or a student

For how many runs you have to do to get a usable fucking drop nty

[cinder cargo]

who r u even talking to

[boreal briar]

Just in general

[frozen panther]

I see 50

With Lily 100 % win

[boreal briar]

If you have no Lily you are still better off building the Kloros Veronika comp if you can

[frozen panther]

Yaa

[boreal briar]

The Hoyan comp I see isn't that reliable

[empty jewel]

Can I use hoyan instead of freya in hell 3?

[boreal briar]

Hoyan needs max skills

Like I said earlier

[frozen panther]

Yep

[boreal briar]

Hoyan comps requires her to be completely maxed

[empty jewel]

Oh.

[boreal briar]

With good gear

[frozen panther]

Skill max hoyan

[boreal briar]

It's not recommended for a reason

[empty jewel]

Wait I mixed up the names

I meant can I use Holden instead

[frozen panther]

Hoyan over rate 70 and cdmg 179

[boreal briar]

That' is pretty good gear alr

And she has no elemental advantage here

So there's the crit RNG element

[boreal briar]

Like I said above you can but there's not much point

Someone like Freya would help more imo until inferno

[empty jewel]

Bet.

[left shuttle]

Which unit does this best fit into?

[boreal briar]

I mean whoever uses artisan

Which is everyone

[empty jewel]

Gonna farm more shells in hopes of clearing hell 3.

I did do it once by luck but never again

[boreal briar]

In my personal opinion noone should hard farming modules until they get 5 red shells maxed

[final ferry]

im doing right now sir

its so hard

[final ferry]

how could you get 3 matrix?

[cinder cargo]

drops from inferno difficulty shells @final ferry

[final ferry]

oh damn

im not 50 yet

im only 35 D:

[final ferry]

thank you for answer me

[left shuttle]

The etherplague was throwing me off. I got one with coloosal but it was swift+unbreakable so I will just bench him in the meantime.

[boreal briar]

Honestly any shell with 3/3/3 swift is worth building

Because it has 5 more speed at max level

So it can always used for speed contesting

[left shuttle]

Does it have more spd? I thought the matrix was only thing different.

[boreal briar]

Yes

3/3/3 shells max speed is 40

Can check in archive

[left shuttle]

Oh yeah. I compared with other max artisan.

I was able to win in manual inferno terror.

My Holden needs more spd for auto.

[spare birch]

Does holden need his skills maxed..Is it a must?

[left shuttle]

No.

I just maxed him to 6 stars for the spd.0

But no need to put lattices into him.0

[boreal briar]

For reliability

S3 level 3

For long term including Aurora? S3 max

[left shuttle]

Damn and here I though I will use my future ones for Kloss.

[boreal briar]

You can

Youre not farming Inferno aurora without two built healers anyways

[left shuttle]

I have Mio and Lingluo tho already.

Tho that will be too far from me cause I'm assuming I will need to farm inferno for specialized core fury before I can tackle aurora inferno.

[boreal briar]

Not really

Also fury drops from Aurora btw

Terro drops keeneye onslaught

[boreal briar]

Yea but you need to build them

By build I mean skilling them and having good amounts of speed

Cause Aurora cycles very fast at inferno

[left shuttle]

I noticed they were using full swift and timeweave.

[stiff sapphire]

Hello out of context

I need advice for ethernet kururu with only green & light animus, what squad should i do? I dont have kloss, lack damage before kururu explode his minions

[left shuttle]

If I awaken shells, the base speed goes up right? I think it's less costly to awaken than trying to reroll shells.

[lethal atlas]

by a few, you will still want to reroll the shell stats

or whatever is that called (the ones with SPD, etc)

[left shuttle]

Spd went up by 8. But still need to reroll since you can only awaken once apparently.

[boreal briar]

Yes

But you still want to reroll in the end

[muted gale]

Well I’ve got at least a 50% wr on Hoyan inferno, we’ll take it for now lmao

Ssania/Lily/Fangus/Obor

[lethal atlas]

have anyone cleared inferno w/o lily

[lethal atlas]

with ssania and on terror lol

and that's with lily

[willow knot]

How many accuracy for Niconana inferno? Should I invest in Obol s3

[safe patrol]

how do you guys build holden for dot comp in terror inferno?

swiftrush 12pc? or bramble + unbreakable

[muted gale]

My brain had ssania and lily mixed lmao my b

[boreal briar]

264 speed

If you can do that with bramble unbreakable feel free

And you can btw

Just need 5 max speed roll gears

[lunar pasture]

Does any1 have an auto inferno niconana ssania team? If so what're your speeds/sets and wr?

[boreal briar]

6 x 15 + 40 + 20

[muted gale]

Inferno Hoyan makes no sense to me, not sure how to make it consistent when the small fella’s resist 220+ acc

[safe patrol]

5 max speed rolls is crazy. Thank you for the advice! I'll run swift instead

[lethal atlas]

damn the highest spd on terror inferno has no lily

[muted gale]

Damn he two shots the boss doesn’t he with Hoyan/Diting lmao

[boreal briar]

But it also has a bunch of RNG resets

[lethal atlas]

yeah ofc

[boreal briar]

You dont see it in recent clears cause its not via le auto

Its just a flex leaderboard kinda thing

[lethal atlas]

i just meant it's possible

not saying it's consistent or what

[boreal briar]

You dispel the immunity

Def break

And pray boss kills Hoyan

[muted gale]

The speed clears are gonna get silly the longer the game goes on lol

[lethal atlas]

but i aint building hoyan just for this, i'll stick to hell 4 (but i need the furyedge set to complete my dps set)

[lethal atlas]

im so jealous of those lily havers, like my gears are a lot better than them but they have lily so inferno is doable for them

dammit

[somber island]

inferno is duable without lily

#1384714748712583168

[lethal atlas]

Ow wow that's goated

Thanks a lot

[willow knot]

Anyone build 3 Codex for NicoNana? The team would be Lily(..Shell..), SSania(Codex), Obol(Codex), Fangus/Marvell(Codex)

[ornate badge]

No Heinrich slot recommendation?

[serene cypress]

Ssania saved my life 🙏

still no lily tho

[boreal briar]

You don't need Lily or SSania for Inferno

The other comps that have been coming out also require specific units

[lethal atlas]

yeah i know already, someone said that few messages before u sent ur msg

[lunar pasture]

New ssania shell👀

[astral yarrow]

by the way in the shell guide there is white gale for fangus. can i ask the use?

[astral yarrow]

do these necessarily drop in inferno?

[lethal atlas]

the 3rd matrix line only drops in inferno

[astral yarrow]

damn okay..

too bad haha i can only clear hell. but at least i auto

[lunar pasture]

I've been manualing nico all day

[astral yarrow]

what s your lineup.

?*

[dire moss]

Oh is there inferno clear with celine and ssania yet?

[trail oracle]

I use Lily, Ssania, Val, Obol/Celince for inferno auto

Obol for fast clear since he also applies dot

Celince for survivability

[dire moss]

For rengokutsu?

[trail oracle]

Celince for rengo

But haven't tried yet

Still maxing my jacko for my Ssania

[dire moss]

Pls record a vid if you manage to build an auto haha

[trail oracle]

For rengo? I'll try after reset

I can show u inferno hoyan tho

In a bit, trying to kill this btch astarte treck 42

ITS BEEN 3 DAYS

@dire moss here you go

[trail mauve]

guys do you think 180% effect is overkill? i have a lot of rolls on my ssania, maybe better to drop a effect acc item and get one with hp%?

[trail oracle]

150 is good enough

[trail oracle]

Lily - Gigabyte
Ssania - Artisan
Val - Artisan
Obol- Codex

[dire moss]

Nice, tqsm

I use a similar team but with fangus

I dislike slotting Lily cuz speedtuning her always take a lot of time

Obol > fangus > ssania with codex on obol/ssania

[trail oracle]

I just build my lily as fast as I can

[dire moss]

Haha that works too

Btw anyone manage to use ssania team in ethernet?

[trail oracle]

Lily is good for ssania, doesn't need much speedtuning with them tbh, just make her fast so she can bring ssania along

[dire moss]

Yea the main i want to avoid is lily > ssania gets countered by the mob which give the boss 2 stacks

So boss might silence the team later

[trail oracle]

Just make sure to CC the mob

So they don't counter

You need like 230 speed +speed buff from lily to overtake the mob

If you stun them for 2 turns, you'll have time to stack lots of dot to kill the boss

[trail mauve]

fangus is 2x accuracy and 1x hp too?

[trail oracle]

Well, sadly you can't ssania inferno rengo. It's immune to dot

[boreal briar]

@trail oracle do you have video for rengokutsu

[trail oracle]

Guess I'll build my massiah for inferno

[trail oracle]

I have one for hell, but my diting clears faster

[boreal briar]

I mean one with Celince for DoT

[trail oracle]

I could try

[civic hill]

These are the units im using in terror to auto with, but they seem a bit too fragile for higher levels of hell than my usual, can i get some advice?

Aside from going and upgrading to 6 star on celince which im close to doing, missing 1 shadowprint

[trail mauve]

valerian is full hp on core items?

[civic hill]

Yes

[trail mauve]

thnx

[civic hill]

But issue for me is that the codes are purple not red, so i need to farm better cores

[trail oracle]

Yeah, you just need to farm better shells, you can farm modules later

Your fangus has more attack than your ssania, make sure ssania has the highest atk

[astral yarrow]

well i m stuck because my ssania team is decent, but my gear is lacking and i cant consistently farm doki sooo

[trail oracle]

Ssania and lily S1 max

[trail oracle]

If can't farm modules, then farm shells, gives you more stats than trying to upgrade to red modules

[astral yarrow]

i m spamming nico haha

[trail oracle]

GL

[astral yarrow]

ty

[trail mauve]

does characters like kloss lose value on terror hell 3-4 because the debuff of reducing turn meter reductions?

[trail oracle]

Marvel is a better turn meter debuffer

Also gives res down

[trail mauve]

im running ssania-fangus-freya-lingluo and valerian, but is because im not good invest in the characters right now, im re-building with new gear from this weekend, but looking at the options from the guide, maybe dorothy is the best option? dont know really what to put in the slot from lingluo

[trail oracle]

You can use holden or marvel

Dorothy is good too for turn meter buffs

And cleanse

Depends on what you really need for your runs

[trail mauve]

dont have holden i can use heinrich?

[trail oracle]

If you lack the turns then dorothy

Could use heinrich on inferno but doesn't really contribute much on dot teams on hell stages

[trail mauve]

kk

[coral dune]

what set are u guys running on your valerians

[civic hill]

oh thats one of the issues

[empty jewel]

Having a hard time beating hell 3 terror

[gleaming saffron]

is there an option in auto play to prevent animus using a specific skill?

[unkempt tartan]

is it impossible to do inferno without lily

[trail oracle]

Max lily and ssania S1

Make lily faster

[limpid spear]

I’m having trouble w hell3 too w no lily. I think gotta work on speed i think someone told me go 234+ then 240+ for inferno

[empty jewel]

I was told to slow down lily so freya does first but alr

[empty jewel]

Getting the lattice takes forever 🫩

[trail oracle]

Nah, why tho, I get it if its for crit dps. SSania and fangus doesn't really need the atk buffs

[trail oracle]

You should atleast get Ssania maxed out within the first 7 days of the game if you get all the the lattices from shop

[copper pivot]

where'd you spend ur lattice?

cus when I unlocked hell, i had just enough to max lily+ssania S1

[copper pivot]

[empty jewel]

I was brute forcing everything with messiah since day 1.

[empty jewel]

It was for dokidoki, but I thought why keep swapping and just kept it on

[copper pivot]

im still bruteforcing most things with my no lettuce rosa

[trail oracle]

If you make your lily and freya fast enough, your massiah wont overlap freya even with lily s2

Just make sure your freya is 21% faster than your massiah

So when lily s2s massiah, freya is still 1% faster

[empty jewel]

Alr. Just did the math and I need 10 more 7 more speed on freya then

[trail oracle]

The magic of math

Too much e7 on my brain

[empty jewel]

Wait we're sidetracking away from terror lmao

[civic hill]

would this be a good artisan for ssania?

[trail oracle]

It's fine, this is Ssania guide everything related to ssania works

Yes

[empty jewel]

Alicorn is alright on freya, right?

[trail oracle]

You can use it, yes

[copper pivot]

are you dying at 3rd fma or something?

[trail oracle]

I prefer artisan tho if you don't have a 2nd artisan holder

Also helps doki runs

[empty jewel]

I have no clue what fma is

Full metal alchemist lmao

[copper pivot]

sorry, like when the main guy attacks

full map attack haha

[empty jewel]

Lemme check

[trail oracle]

it's aoe then

[copper pivot]

because what helped me beat hell4 was that ur val has to use S2 on the lowest hp unit on the first round so that the 2nd attack from the hand is mitigated

then u use S3 to survive the next nuke, after which u should be able to kill it, assuming ur using the dot build

[empty jewel]

Yeah, usually 3 or 4

[copper pivot]

yeah thats the problem, I don't think u can clear with DOT unless ur Ssenia is max S1 otherwise

before i maxed S1, i was always around 25% hp short

[empty jewel]

So I'm stuck until I get more lattice

[copper pivot]

that is likely the case in my opinion

might be wrong though, only on day 5

[fluid niche]

Should I 6 star ssania and fangus

[copper pivot]

you could try a mia instead of freya to heal though

thats what I do

helps me survive the 3rd aoe

[empty jewel]

I can survive 3 constantly but I just don't deal enough damage

[untold widget]

There is always a 10% chance to miss a debuff, stupid game zzzz at least is not 15% like epice seven

[woeful grotto]

For the obol version of hoyan inferno dot team. What’s the speed requirements ? Having issues with this damn silence move

[wheat dagger]

So for ssania swiftrush 12/bramble and fangus unbreakable/bram,ble?

[untold widget]

And pray that they counter, i had many runs when they just decide to not counter once zz

Is the cheapest team but rng rng rng, 10% to ressit debuffs even if you have 999999effacc, and the chance to counter and the rng of fangus assist even if maxed the s2

The only garantee is lily follow up at this point xD

[trail oracle]

Mine is 233 speed, overlaps the ads with lily speed buff on turn 1

The silence from the boss doesn't do much for the rotation really, your s2 and s3s will be on cooldown anyway when the boss does it.

In my case that is

[torn vapor]

worksss

[glass dust]

Bros what's your niconana inferno effect acc? I'm on 180 and she keeps resisting

[untold widget]

i have 200% of both, like i said there is ALWAYS a 10% that the boss will ressit any debuff

10% 🤡

[glass dust]

hot damn, gotcha thanks!

[languid prairie]

For shadowfalme hoyan does obol need to be skilled up or can you use him unskilled

[trail oracle]

Maxing s3 helps him land stun more, giving you more consistent runs

[cinder cargo]

i would say he pretty much needs it, even s3 maxed he still misses stun sometimes, without it's gonna be painful

[trail mauve]

dorothy what gear need to run? dont is the same as valerian? i mean because in the guide not show any recomendation, maybe because is the same as valerian?

nevermind i found the message :;D

what main stats for core items? crit crit hp for example? does the buffs from characters get affected for effect accuracy?

for dorothy i mean

[pure phoenix]

@dire moth Got her instead of Lily

[dire moth]

its okay

[trail oracle]

Man, inferno hoyan is so inconsistent. One run I get 10/10, the next I get 5/10

[pure phoenix]

Hopefully I could get new L/D in 50 pulls or under

[empty jewel]

Should he be attacking/moving before or after sania.

[untold widget]

before ssania, so you can extend on the secodn rotation the dots with her s2

[empty jewel]

Does Freya want 2 HP or effect

[muted gale]

do you have Obol s3 maxed?

[wheat dagger]

Is this too much eff acc?

[untold widget]

is fine, but 10% exist so 50/50

[wheat dagger]

is it better to put hp bonus on her or is it fine now?

[dire moth]

its fine for now

[empty jewel]

Is this enough for terror hell 3?

[untold widget]

hell what

[trail oracle]

Yes, I retuned my turn order, made lily slower than obol, I think it has higher winrate than my old setup. Still observing

[muted gale]

Oh that’s interesting, you think those first two attacks were causing trouble?

[empty jewel]

Terror

[untold widget]

hmm i dont use her anymore, but she just need to survive 1 hit at the rng and thats it the rest on speed to push

[cinder cargo]

yes it does matter, after his ads attack 4 times, hoyan does aoe

if u freeze right away, then you negate a lot of the inconsistency

[trail oracle]

Yeah, the counterhit stacks on the first turn hurts alot later

[pure phoenix]

I’m sturggling to find a good quality shell for inferno with her rn

Fun fact: I use black flag and Givabyte during mid game till late game

[calm totem]

Anyone got an auto team comp for inferno nana ? I got lily fangus ssania and all sr unitsk

How fast my units need to be ?

I can manual with Lily + Fangus + SSania + Linglou but its still kinda rng if units keep getting stunned lol

[trail oracle]

Lily, Ssania, Val, Fangus is what I run with

[calm totem]

Can I know what shell u running on them and how much spd they are ?

[trail oracle]

Lily - Gigabyte

Ssania - Jackal
Val - Artisan
Fang - Codex

[calm totem]

Ty ty

Ur Lily has godlike speed lol 😂

[trail oracle]

250 is enough haha

[empty jewel]

What set should fangus use? This is what I'm currently using but I need more speed so it moves before sania

[calm totem]

sorry which shell is Bramble ? Artisan ?

[trail oracle]

Oh sorry about that, yes artisan

[warped tinsel]

Should freya be replaced with Holden?

Bc the attack down res decrease and atb push back is more helpful than just defense buff

[calm totem]

Thank you so much for your help ! I'm autoing inferno nana now with 100% wr

[trail oracle]

Gratz!

[calm totem]

i mean 90%

cuz of that stupid 10% res

LOL

but its actuallyy really hard to fail with lily being that fast

even if the run got scuffed a bit

my Lily doesn't have godlike spd like urs , but this works fine haha

is my fangus too much ACC ?

[boreal briar]

A little too much yes

[calm totem]

ok i will prob tune him into bulk a bit lol

[dire moth]

[calm totem]

@dire moth what shell should I use for Holden for Terror Inferno ?

i need to get him to go first before everyone else right ?

[dire moth]

Artian gigabyte

[lofty thunder]

@dire moth should I play yang for Aurora or should I play Viper for it?

[spare birch]

Why codex on fangus?

[calm totem]

I put my fangus on alicorn so bro never get stunned and cant assist atk

[runic tartan]

How much min spd on dot team

I wanna clear infeno

[spare birch]

Unfortunately I don’t have lily so i think i shud depend on codex for applying extra dots..but i’m not sure who i shud put it on..ssania or fangus

[rapid saffron]

Hello friends, gimme a small advice, which would be a decent mid game shell for ssania? im running alicorn (swift/bramble) rn but like i don't feel it adds anything at all for the safety of the team(ssania/fangus/holden/lily/valerian)

[boreal briar]

what are you resetting on Fangus

His S1?

[rapid saffron]

I have the exact same way of thinking as you, but what's funny is that in Prydwen they have Codex has Fangus Dot Variant as his BiS option

weird right? i don't think reseting his S3 is that big of a deal

[boreal briar]

Its not really that big a deal

[dire moth]

Up to you yang revelation be doing damage tbh

[spare birch]

I did see some say if u dont have lily use codex on fangus or ssania..Now that u say i’m not sure

[rapid saffron]

right? i kinda think the same as u, but i understand apn's question cuz prydwen it's kinda missleading in taht regard

[rapid saffron]

i think the reasoning in prydwen to say codex is bcs his S3 has a 100% chance of landing while his basic atk is lower

Can someone throw me a print of your stats for ssania that's able to clear inferno, I wanna see how much more bulky she has to be in comparison to H4.

[spare birch]

what shells do u suggest for ssania and fangus?

[rapid saffron]

i'm not exactly an expert but mine are both using alicorn and i'm autoing H4, not quite on inferno yet.

@spare birch

[spare birch]

I’m thinking of using gigabyte on ssania and artisan on fangus maybe..Will that work..or shud i go for jackal on fangus and give my artisan to freya?

[rapid saffron]

you have lily? @spare birch cuz if you do jackal drops quite a bit, but i would say run a shell that can get sets that make you tanky (bramble/hp/spd/def/wtv)

[spare birch]

That is the thing…I don’t have lily

[rapid saffron]

sent you a dm so i didn't spam the thread here

[rapid saffron]

you have some replacements on this guide in this thread should work alright if you follow mr ssania's advice/guide

[dire moss]

DOT team is so back!

[calm totem]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrdMRP8iik

Hoyan is so strong

for those that unfortunately don't have Lily/SSania

[spare birch]

Is it worth building him (5 stars and max S3) as a placeholder for lily in my ssania team?

[hard lantern]

can i use obol instead of shadow sania? I dont have her

And what team I can use if I dont have shadow sania

[somber island]

its good if you have lily

without lily better off use artison

[spare birch]

Isn’t codex better if u don’t have lily..Especially in auto as ai prioritises s2 over s3 and u can use it b2b to prolong the dots..Since no lily means less dots and i think codex helps a bit in this case..also ig codex is better if u already run 2 artisans in the team

[somber island]

you dont get enough dots for it to be worth

aka you dont get s1

with lily you can get enough dot to extend and 1 shot

without you cant do that, which makes there no point in doing so

[spare birch]

Also Y artisan and not any speed shells like gigabyte/jackal?

[zealous herald]

Does bramble not proc on lily allow for a follow attack with the “twin”

[wheat dagger]

thank you guys it worked! inferno niconana

[somber island]

that works too

i run 4 artison on that to make sure i dont die

which gaves about 50% wr ish

without lily

[dire moth]

am now home

[pure phoenix]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-nijika-gif-17953004279769850266

[spare birch]

I think that’s y people use cachi the guard for immunity in place of lily

[dire moth]

[wraith flare]

Anyone know how I can get lily to target ssania ;v

[shell dew]

is there a ssania build who can clear both terror and shells? I see for terror u want him on more bulk bramble/guardian
for shell u want him on swift

[dire moth]

Atk stat

[shell dew]

do u know my question too?

[shell dew]

get ssania to highest atk

[dire moth]

can still run bramble tank on inferno shells just requires investment in other unit speed

[shell dew]

I see, so its harder to build if u want to use ssania for both shells and terror?

[dire moth]

nah not really just speed build other units

or run obol for niconana hoyen

[shell dew]

I was told to build celine instead of obol

was that a mistake?

[dire moth]

nah celince is fine

[shell dew]

is obol better?

[dire moth]

nope just runs better on auto

but requires codex

[wraith flare]

Thank youuu

[shell dew]

wait so what was the reason celine is recommended, I tohught celine was good for auto

[wraith flare]

Btw any dot comp to auto shadowflame hoyan? Without celince

[shell dew]

celine can auto rengo inferno right?

[dire moth]

if u invest

if not nope

but thats all units

[dire moth]

obol

obol codex

[shell dew]

so if u had to choose would u prefer obol or celine to auto inferno?

[dire moth]

doesnt matter just use who u prefer

[wraith flare]

I tried doing so but shadow flame hoyan's damage hurts so much T.T

[shell dew]

but who is more consistent?

[dire moth]

either way if your end goal is to auto

than youre gonna have to invest reguardless

[shell dew]

ye I will invest, but I prefer to only invest in 1

[dire moth]

that hoyan comp for inferno clear still units that are max skilled

just run celince than

otherwise u cant dot rengokutsu on inferno

[shell dew]

oh obol doesnt work in rengo?

[dire moth]

nope

not inferno

[shell dew]

I see

so I only got ssania s1 max

is that enough

or is more better

[dire moth]

like i siad gonna have to invest

otherwise cooked

[shell dew]

no I understnad

[dire moth]

but thats all comps

[shell dew]

I am trying to invest

but like to what extent does ssania need his skill maxed, I assume s2 too?

or does ssania wants s1 s2 and s3?

[dire moth]

s2 just lets u stack but if running lily just use S3 at that point on lily

[shell dew]

wait so u dont need s2 max with lily?

[dire moth]

nah S2 is just nice being maxed

[shell dew]

for aurora btw I see diting in the fastest clear leaderboard, but in recent celars there are fewer and fewer diting nowaddays

is there a reason did something happen?

[cinder cargo]

probably because inferno comps

xiada messiah rosa are clearing it and not diting, so people are probably prepping for it

[shell dew]

massaiah can clear it? what team

[shell dew]

I can make this team

dont have mia

[cinder cargo]

but ya no ditings

[shell dew]

wait let me check last time I checked I saw 0 massa

[shell dew]

if u go fast clears diting is still fastest but maybe diting is incosistent?

[cinder cargo]

it's not on inferno

0

[shell dew]

huh

[cinder cargo]

these are hell 4 fastest clear times

[shell dew]

wait there is no massiah in inferno

[cinder cargo]

i guess no whale massiahs in your region

this is from global

[shell dew]

why is viper usedd in every team btw

he is replacalbe/

[cinder cargo]

probably not

aurora in inferno does so much damage, viper has critical damage taken reduction for your team

[boreal briar]

Xiada can dispel with her S1 btw

And Rosa can pushback

[cinder cargo]

there are some without viper but used mia instead

[boreal briar]

Holden works too

[shell dew]

btw I am trying to make my ssania to work in multiple shell teams and maybe terror too with 1 build I just go bramble?

[shell dew]

I see I needed aurora for my hyperlink but I worry about it later I have 0 lattices left for my viper

[boreal briar]

Bramble or not doesn't matter if you can't clear

[shell dew]

what is best build for ssania?

that can be used in shells and terror

[boreal briar]

Are you using Lily?

[shell dew]

ye

lily ssania valerian I think

and celine for shells

for terror I think it was holden and fangus I think

[boreal briar]

You need Obol for Hoyan

Also sets really don't matter

[shell dew]

oh but I was told celine is good as u will need him for rengo too

[boreal briar]

Yes but you can't build everyone

Unless you're telling me spend 5k a month

[shell dew]

right, but celine didnt need skillup right

[boreal briar]

I don't know yet cause I didn't build her yet

But you won't be out of farming Hoyan or Niconana

Just focus on one shell you want to farm

[shell dew]

hoyan

I need revelation

[boreal briar]

Then you need Obol

[shell dew]

obol has 0 lattices either atm, people said celine worked so I didnt invest in obol

[boreal briar]

I personally think Obol is faster

Cause you can get guaranteed double stun