SSania guide

[quick mantle]

u dont need hein

u can do this replace hein wit fast marvel

[meager chasm]

okay thank you!

[merry violet]

Uh maybe dumb question but who's dispelling immunity in that comp without hein

[quick mantle]

ooo ye i forgot

im stupid

[slate light]

Should I just reset my Ril and build Ssania for terror and doki ?

[quick mantle]

ril cant do terror

[slate light]

yeah, was thinking of resetting Ril and just use Ssania for doki as well

would that work?

[quick mantle]

no

[dire moth]

dont need to outspeed terror if using vale just need vale to have gigabyte and thatll set you up for the 3 turn reset to use invincibility

[meager chasm]

so i stick with hein?

and rin

I just cleared this on auto

or stick with this without hein

[quick mantle]

inferno got immunity

[candid yew]

do we want 2 or 3 ACC pieces for inferno on SSania and Fangus?

[dire moth]

2

3 is more ehh good but not required

[opaque otter]

I can do it now guys!! yahooo!!

[somber island]

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[merry violet]

Do sania s2 and s3 upgrades make any difference?

[somber island]

yes

it will brick your run

if you make them less cd

[merry violet]

Damn so stay away from those

[somber island]

so dont touch those

[merry violet]

Alright

[open temple]

man its really tough without lily

😭

[merry violet]

Unrelated to DOT team but im thinking of maxing out lingluos s3 for the cdr

[somber island]

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[merry violet]

Is that a good idea idk

Its a lot of lattices

[somber island]

bro im gonna do it for the heal lol,

in the future

i think its probably needed for aurora

not completely sure

[merry violet]

5 turn vs 4 turn feels too big

[somber island]

expecially with timeweave

right

[merry violet]

Yeah im trying to farm some fury momentum rn and shes not healing in time to remove the curse

[somber island]

thats what im thinking lol

[merry violet]

Idk what set to run on her too im just doing cure swift rn

[somber island]

its max hp heal so potentially if my units are tanky

she heals more

[merry violet]

4 yellow lattice though

[somber island]

ive not invested yet

focusing on doki rn

[open temple]

they should drop like 100 yellow lattices

[somber island]

after

maybe

[open temple]

and even that would be less

😭

[somber island]

[vale copper]

whats the requirement to auto inferno terror ?

s2 max s1 +3?

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496

[vale copper]

thats huge thank u 👀

[slate nymph]

Is lili a reqiurement? Would Freya be an alternative?

I assume I can still clear up to hell4 like that tho right

[wary briar]

How xan i go on top😭

Too much scrolling

[somber island]

#1384714748712583168 with freya instead of lily

[somber island]

this

top right has an arror

mobile you click on the top of your screen

[wary briar]

can't see it😔

[somber island]

click on the space between followed and emoji

[slate nymph]

thanks a lot!

[boreal briar]

@somber island btw do you have hoyan doki clear vids?

[somber island]

still figuring doki out lol

hoyan used to work but now it doesnt, dont know why

[somber island]

.

[boreal briar]

After abit of farming I think I am done with Xiada for now

[somber island]

"a bit of farming"

im still doing aurora

not getting the furry gears i like

[astral yarrow]

how does ssania work into doki?

[boreal briar]

She doesnt

[astral yarrow]

great

haha

[woeful grotto]

Samn

[mystic heart]

guys this energy what should i use to be? im lvl 40

in event double drop

[lunar pasture]

Any1 with auto inferno terrormaton team that could possibly share their builds?

[cosmic salmon]

guys, i've got lucky enough to get ssania and i was wondering.. should i build her? does she requires certain units to work properly? and when should i really build her

[boreal briar]

Prowess and exp

Because those gurantee you progress

Ive been farming modules for 8 hours

I got 3 usuable drops

[lunar pasture]

More than i've got :))

[boreal briar]

By usable I mean right main stat

[lunar pasture]

I've had 1

And it's only meh

def % on etheric

[boreal briar]

Builds are pointless because you never replicate the exact tuning

From my testing any thing that involves applying debuffs is mostly just RNG

My Kazuyo is max skilled and Ive had runs that she missed slumber completely with 200% eff acc

3 hits ea mob

[boreal briar]

Read the pinned guide then come back

[lunar pasture]

That's always gonna be the case tho, even it it's 100% there's still a slight chance it won't land

[somber island]

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[boreal briar]

The odds of that happening is about 0.3%

[tawny patrol]

is vale a must in the dot team?

[somber island]

vale is must in almost every team

bc of how much damge inferno does

[lunar pasture]

Wdym? If u show builds which involves speed, then you can atleast try to get about the same

[boreal briar]

No but it makes the runs alot more reliable

[somber island]

before inferno no, vale almost never used

[boreal briar]

Not really because I try the same speeds but it doesnt really work

[lunar pasture]

Not true

[boreal briar]

You just need the idea of who goes first

Before inferno you dont need Vale

I never used her until inferno

I cleared everything without Vale until hitting inferno

[somber island]

you out heal before inferno

rather easily

inferno almost double in dmage

which is why cheat death is so important

[lunar pasture]

Yea, but since we don't know the exact speeds of terrormaton for example, if someone has a team and they know they're going before it that still helps tho

[somber island]

264 for inferno

done

[boreal briar]

^

[lunar pasture]

That doesn't mean she wasn't used tho

[final ferry]

im stuck at nightmare 2 doki doki which sania team should i use ?

[boreal briar]

No the question was is Vale a must

[lunar pasture]

Ty

[boreal briar]

So his answer was valid

[somber island]

that means she isnt used, the only perpose of her is cheat death, you are so much better off using stuff like lingluo that extends buffs, gives immunity, and cleanses

[boreal briar]

And he said almost never

Not never

Theres a difference

Obviously Vale can be used

But shes not needed

[lunar pasture]

Well that also isn't true, most of the first ppl who cleared hell 4 used Vale, so that's still incorrect tho

[boreal briar]

I cleared hell IV without Vale

Like I said

[somber island]

i was the 14th or 15th people to do doki hell4

[boreal briar]

Unless you dont understand english

[somber island]

and no

[boreal briar]

Shes not needed

Its not that hard to understand

[somber island]

people used lingluo and even no healer

[boreal briar]

You can use her

Nobody said dont use her

[lunar pasture]

Seems like you're the one that can't comprehend what is being written lmao

He says vale was almost never used, which is incorrect

[somber island]

pre inferno i said, vale was almost never used

[boreal briar]

Sure have it your way then

[somber island]

pre inferno is very important

its fine

[trail oracle]

I'm getting bodied by inferno shell stages

[lunar pasture]

Yea ik, but the first 3 people that did hell 4 terror for example, all of them used vale

[boreal briar]

Yes just because first 3 people used it

[lunar pasture]

Atleast on eu

[somber island]

grandy didnt

that i know of

[boreal briar]

Doesnt mean its representative of all the population

[somber island]

i copied his team in terror

[open temple]

my farming is inefficient cuz no good revelation shell

[boreal briar]

Not all the servers either

[somber island]

he was the first to clear in terror hell4 in global

[open temple]

can only farm dokidoki hell 2

[lunar pasture]

1 example and that's the first thing u think of? Holy

[boreal briar]

Youre the one using 3 examples to say it applies to all servers

DaBan just said in Global first clear didnt use Vale

So that just shows that its an incomplete perspective

[lunar pasture]

Talking to you is clearly a waste of time

[boreal briar]

Same to you

So lets just end this here then

[boreal briar]

You cant SSania Doki

[somber island]

same lol

im so desperate for inferno codex

like

soso desperate

count too

im doing all these inferno modules

and cant use them

[boreal briar]

Im desperate for inferno aurora man

All these shells and I cant use

I need swiftsmite

Swiftraid is such an ass set

[trail oracle]

I'm even using following some comps on recent clears

Upon watching some runs, some of them use manual

I just want to farm hoyan inferno

[boreal briar]

Which inferno?

[mystic heart]

just exp its oke right?

[boreal briar]

Prowess also

Prowess is ass to farm

[trail oracle]

I can build obol tho and farm codex for the meantime

[mystic heart]

okk

[boreal briar]

You can plan out and prefarm

[trail oracle]

I don't have any problems on hell 3 GP farm, I have 155 xiada

[boreal briar]

Btw why you farming shells now

Its not on 2x

[trail oracle]

Nah, I was trying to clear it while I auto modules

I refuse to do manual

[boreal briar]

All trash

I fucking hate this game

[trail oracle]

Whats ur comp

I still need to upgrade my kazu gear for inferno

[open temple]

inferno drop 2 matrice modules??

[open temple]

[boreal briar]

Yead

[lunar pasture]

Yea

[open temple]

bruh

[trail oracle]

Same comp I use, but low win rate on mine

[boreal briar]

Hence why I said

If you cant inferno shell go farm Hell IV

[open temple]

lily lily everywhere, and not one for me

[trail oracle]

Need to upgrade kazus shell

[boreal briar]

I did 40 runs each and compared

Hell IV only gives you the extra 6 matrix set drop

But otherwise really no diff

[trail oracle]

Yeah, I just farm hell 4

[boreal briar]

And Dokidoki 6 pc isnt that great either

[lunar pasture]

Tbf it should be illegal that you can get 2matrix drops in inferno

[open temple]

yeah

[lunar pasture]

Even in hell 4

[trail oracle]

You can even get gold shells on inferno

[open temple]

so much grinding to get 2 matrix

[lunar pasture]

Yea, and even if it's 3 matrix you still kinda want decent substats

[open temple]

how much stats to auto hoyan with DoT for hell?

without lily

[trail oracle]

3 matrix then they hit you 2 substat

[open temple]

i have to manual it to make it work

[lunar pasture]

Or flat stat

[boreal briar]

I mean thats just gear farm

The substat thing

The three matrix and the epic shell thing is dumb af

[lunar pasture]

Yea ik, it was more the you can get 2 matrix thing

[lunar pasture]

Yea

[lunar pasture]

Can i see your xiada build?

[boreal briar]

Search my images

I posted it awhile back

[lunar pasture]

Oh okay

[boreal briar]

Not on PC now

[lunar pasture]

3rd effect res furyedge

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crying-cat-cat-meme-cat-crying-meme-crying-cat-meme-gif-7433931244412524776

[merry violet]

Hm yknow i never really thought about it until now

What are we looking for when farming terror pre inferno again

All the sets kinda not great

[lunar pasture]

Momentum if u have lots of debuffs, Keen eye if not

[merry violet]

Only thing it seems like its worth is maybe keeneye

I mean wellspring and cure are like idk

[lunar pasture]

I GOT ONE

Not the best but it's a start

[boreal briar]

Keeneye and cure

[boreal briar]

Gzgz

[night bane]

Hello ! Sorry to bother, I just got SSania and have a ton of perfect lattices on the side, so I wanted to know what is her skill lvl up priority ? Notably for inferno Terrormaton

[merry violet]

I think just s1

[boreal briar]

S1

Because the meta builds rn run codex

So you can auto

Then theres not much point for S2 level ups

[boreal briar]

Momentum doesnt drop from terror

[night bane]

and so do we max out S1 or do we stop at lvl3 for the simple increase in effect proc ? since she detonates the dots is there a point for them to last longer ?

[boreal briar]

You max it

[night bane]

alright !

[boreal briar]

Because boss can move twice before you detonate

[merry violet]

This is the lily team right

[boreal briar]

When you use codex you are going turn 1 codex S2 turn 2 S2 again then S3

[white smelt]

Without max 1 dot will be too short to extend

[boreal briar]

Bosses will move twice

[night bane]

thanks ❤️ !

Also i've noticed a lot of SSania inferno runs, if not most have Lily as a teammate, but I didn't have that luck is Kloss a good replacement ?

[boreal briar]

They have like what 260 speed ish

If your DoT only last one turn its a high chance of expiry

[boreal briar]

For which boss?

[white smelt]

He is partly immune to meter debuffs

[night bane]

Terrormaton

[boreal briar]

SHoyan can be run without Lily

Terror you can manual but not auto iirc

Niconana can be cleared without SSania

[night bane]

yeah but he still suffer from the spd down from Kloss and hacking improves all damage sources the enemy takes, so technically dots too right ?

and I see thank you

[boreal briar]

No but its not a replacement for Lily

Because what Lily does is give you more free DoTs

[night bane]

ah I see

[boreal briar]

From her S1 follow up

I mean not enough for auto

And if you not running Lily you need speed SSania I think

But dont quote me on this

[night bane]

noted

so best matrixes are like swiftrush battlewill ?

for more S1s

and cycling through spells

[boreal briar]

Not battlewill

Battlewill is a 12pc set

You dont have the leeway to build it

And it doesnt drop on speed shells iirc

Its stuff like bramble strive timeweave

[night bane]

it's an 8 set

but good to know still !

Codex of magic doesn't have it anyway my bad

[bronze sparrow]

No good artisan or amber shells yet with def bonus. Just wondering how much eff acc% and hp/def is ideal?

[open temple]

150 is ideal

i work with 110 or so

also that sania looks slow asf

[bronze sparrow]

Nothing is leved up yet

[open temple]

ah ok

[bronze sparrow]

shell is still lvl 1

[open temple]

kk

[short vine]

Max S2 or S3 first?

[night bane]

As for the accompanying fangus i'm guessing it's S2 first ye ?

[bitter island]

Rip I didn’t manage to make an auto team for inferno before 2x

[lunar pasture]

Me neither, i've been manualing for hours

[bitter island]

S2 I think?

[bitter island]

I can’t bother to do 51 stam bottles manual

Plus the 20 from refresh too

[lunar pasture]

Tell me about, i have 80

[bitter island]

Ur insane

Are u actually gonna manual 1000 battles????

[lunar pasture]

Fuck no, i think i'll just get a few of the inferno only matrixes then auto hell 4

[bitter island]

Ye I did some H4 auto then I swapped to doki H4 auto

Mby I get good enough to do infernal after event ends

[lunar pasture]

I would do doki since i need speed sets, but i want a proper dps build for my rilmocha first

[bitter island]

Ye I finished it

Keen fury

Don’t have the furyedge yet tho

The shell I mean

[lunar pasture]

I don't have shell either

[bitter island]

Gotta farm count for rilm iirc

[lunar pasture]

I spent 1k+ stam yesterday and didn't get a single one

[bitter island]

[pure phoenix]

Who should I make to 45?

[bitter island]

I’ve spent all my stam since 2x announcement till now on nico and still don’t have whitefang with it lol

[bitter island]

Xia

I did get onslaught fury furyedge but keen eye fury is prob better no?

[lunar pasture]

Isn't white fang better?

Or is it for the burst?

[icy valley]

You didn’t utilize the x2 event and spent it all on shells….

[bitter island]

White fang dosent help u kill before splash

[bitter island]

Not bottles

[lunar pasture]

True

[icy valley]

Ohoh holy

[bitter island]

Spent refresh on shells

Gem

[bitter island]

Wish revelation was good on rilm like xia

[lunar pasture]

Same, or that i had a xia

[icy valley]

Oh lowkey off topic from ssania but like what does borgne do…..

[lunar pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/kylie-kylie-jenner-jenner-kardashian-kardashians-gif-15211307054878586001

[bitter island]

This too

[lunar pasture]

I could use targeted on her, but not worth cuz i have ril

[bitter island]

Same lol

[lunar pasture]

Meanwhile on my 2nd acc i have Massiah, Ril and Xiada

[bitter island]

But I don’t have kloss for my rilm so I’m stuck with gray

[lunar pasture]

I do have kloss

I even got her twice

[bitter island]

Gimme one pls

[lunar pasture]

If only i could

[bitter island]

I only got 3 dps rilm sania and khlor lol

[lunar pasture]

I have khlor aswell but he's not built

[bitter island]

Mine is the minimum 5 star and the free stats lol

Just for the dogs

[lunar pasture]

I haven't really invested in any other dps than ril and Diting

I did 5 star lian after i reset her tho cuz i needed her for terror early on

[somber island]

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For reference if you want to copy

[trail oracle]

I'm out of gold speed cheking modules help

[slate nymph]

@somber island Ive already maxed ssania s1 and fangus s2-s3 but I want to ask just incase before reset event is gone. Is it worth going for this team even if I dont have lily? I do have the important ssr supports except the l/d ones

[gleaming saffron]

is effect res highly recommended for doki terror inferno? if so, around how much do u guys have?

[feral ocean]

Guys, should I use my lattices on Lily first or SSania?

[trail oracle]

Ssania first

[feral ocean]

SSania full or only S1 + S2 before moving onto Lily?

[trail oracle]

Max S1 then you can max Lily S1 next

[feral ocean]

thanks

[trail oracle]

No need to max S2 and S3

on Ssania

[feral ocean]

ah, so the orders at the top of this thread are not static as in...
First max SSania S1, S2
then do Fengus
then do Lily
etc...

[dire moth]

no its just a list of what to max depending on units u choose to use

[abstract wing]

my lily is buffing freya instead of ssania during auto

[dire moth]

we just know attack stat effects this we dont know if any crit or crit damage comes into play

[abstract wing]

i see

damn, my freya has 100 more atk

[dire moth]

yeah might be why just lower attack but it also evens out once u get shells and star leveled maxed

[wary briar]

i still cant go on the top message btw

[dire moth]

check pins

if not ill just copy paste message link again

#1382334085288169542 message

[wary briar]

thank youu!!

[mystic heart]

can someone give me build diting??

[dire moth]

diting falls off in inferno

[trail oracle]

Here's my pve diting, I just use it to clear dot immune bosses xd

[mystic heart]

aaaaaaaaaaaa

[mystic heart]

ty!!!

[uneven sinew]

Is 100% effect acc enough on ssania and fangus or do i need more for hell 4 and inferno?

[solid hearth]

Oh same question i want to ask. I have 140% effect acc but the boss still resist dot.

[slate nymph]

@dire moth do u have any suggestions?

[dire moth]

yeah this fine

although fangus S1 more important than S3

[shell dew]

hey so I have my dokidoki team ready now, in order to make the dot team, do I only farm dokidoki gear

or do they need other gear too?>

[dire moth]

can just run speed defense gear

dont need dps gear on terror to kill it with dot

[shell dew]

ye I dont think anyone uses dps gear, but do they need like terror gear or smth else?

aurora is mostly dps gear I thought

[slate nymph]

lmao I meant s1 and s2

okay then I wont reset

[dire moth]

nah only ether plague for when u get your 3-3-3

[shell dew]

ether plague is that a module set?

[dire moth]

ether plague lets u run 12-8-6 or the 8-8-6

[shell dew]

but what is ether plague

oh

[dire moth]

25% hp and 20% effect acc

[shell dew]

where do I get this

[dire moth]

terror inferno

[shell dew]

this is insane for 6 set

[shell dew]

so i am currently farmign some dokidoki then I put these gear on my ssania team and farm inferno terror to get etherplague is that the plan for modules?

[dire moth]

pretty much but u farm terror for its dps sets

keeneye is pretty much better than momentum rn due to not many debuffer sustainers

[shell dew]

wait so what are like the good sets, I think ddokiddoki I mostly use the swiftness andd the bramble for ssania

[dire moth]

also get fury edge from terror inferno

[shell dew]

oh all these 6 sets seems so strong

[dire moth]

swift bramble is fine from doki

u wont want these for the dot team besides ether plague

youll want them for your dps

thatll make doki inferno easier

add 12% crit rate and 20% crit damage when i get the 3x3x3 keeneye fury furyedge shell

[shell dew]

u are using hoyan I thought he is weak

[dire moth]

ill be 75 crit rate over 372% crit damage

[shell dew]

where is he even usable

[dire moth]

if i roll 0 sub stats

hoyan blows up doki doki if u run cycle reset

[shell dew]

there is 0 hoyan in the leaderboard

[dire moth]

0 are invested in with a cycler build

she crits around 400k

[shell dew]

is hoyan worth pulling from his banner

[dire moth]

no one has invested because ppl say she sucks so they save their mats

[shell dew]

or holdden

[dire moth]

4 some1 else

both

holden good for terror

hoyan good on doki doki nuking or pvp

[shell dew]

I see

[shell dew]

so I mainly farm dokidoki and terror, what about aurora?

[feral ocean]

are you guys able to farm Febian with SSania?

[brazen sage]

i just pulled my fangus what skill do i level?

[dire moth]

yeah

[coral dune]

S2 then S1

[dire moth]

no need till u need momentum sets

[coral dune]

@dire moth How much speed is needed for a speed ssania and fangus

[dire moth]

not much till u run cycle at least 200

[feral ocean]

I got a SSania dupe x_x

[coral dune]

Atleast next dupe more effect acc

[feral ocean]

yeah... but 1st dupe is kindof pointless lol

next lvl I unlock Nightmare, can't wait to see how it goes 😄

[coral dune]

She becomes a lil more tanky

[feral ocean]

Im sitting at 122% Effect Accuracy and 1200 def right now

[pure phoenix]

Why those hell 3&4 and hell 2 kinda far different between their dmg?

[brazen sage]

thanks so level s2 and s1 i guess s3 last priority

i have 8 purple skill up

[trail oracle]

Anyone have an inferno hoyan auto team

[winter pagoda]

for dot team who can replace lily?

[slate nymph]

Freya ig

Dorothy the wisher is a budget option

[winter pagoda]

ssania build

[glossy zinc]

thats the worst first comment to see when opening up the thread...

[dire moth]

[dire moth]

its cause terror will just 1 shot him than attack arm will follow up

than terror will get extra turn

[glossy zinc]

[raw vessel]

Is the speed order fine? or can i improve it (hell 4)

[shell dew]

is it smarter to farm inferno shells first or inferno modules?

[dire moth]

turn order looks fine had to rewatch a few times

[dire moth]

little of both tbh shells when no 2x

but since 2x modules 4 now

[shell dew]

so after 2x fully focus on inferno shells?

I assume u farm till uget atleast inferno shells for ur current full team right?

[dire moth]

yeah farm inferno shells after the 2x

kinda just gotta get lucky on your 3x3x3

idealy this would be keeneye not momentum

but still gonna keep 4 now

[shell dew]

also is celine good?

[shell dew]

why u farm white fang, dont u need revelation?

[dire moth]

better for characters like hoyan

[dire moth]

good for shells yeah

[shell dew]

which one I just looked at hoyan but I see alot more obol

[dire moth]

hoyan and rengokutsu

[shell dew]

but tehre are barely any celine in leaderboard

or is obol not auto friendly?

[dire moth]

yeah cause ppl think shes trash

same thing happen to SSania

now look at her

[shell dew]

thats how we got the reset

[shell dew]

but can I auto with celine not sure if I should build her rn

[dire moth]

gonna need her either way for rengokutsu if running dot

dont think u got a choice unless u want to build other dps

[shell dew]

what is rengokutsu auto team btw

[shell dew]

there are other rengokotsu auto team beside ssania?

[dire moth]

idk i use dot

other ppl have cleared it

[shell dew]

but getting the correct shells is more efficent right?

because getting the perfect shell is easier then the perfect modules.

[dire moth]

well yeah

[shell dew]

so after how many good shells should I start farming modules?

[dire moth]

there is no set amount of good shells

as long as u have enough 4 your teams u build

[shell dew]

but what is the rule to know when to swap. I need to farm both inferno shell and modules. I think after the 2x i should have ad ecent amount of modules. so then I farm shels?

[dire moth]

there is no real rule of when to swap

u just farm what u think u need

theres no rule of when u should stop or start

[shell dew]

I feel like farmign shells is also more efficient as u get coins aswell when u run out of coins

[shell dew]

btw how are u farming dokidoki now actually? u were trying ssania right?

[slate nymph]

would swiftrush + bramble be okay for fangus?

[dire moth]

still am with hoyan main dps

[rustic moth]

sell me on the propoganda

[shell dew]

is it consistent ?

[dire moth]

yeah i dont have issues but my hoyan is invested in

[dire moth]

later when i get her

[rustic moth]

I have her, she's just lying around

[dire moth]

shes one of the few i dont own yet

[dire moth]

ill message u tho if u want to know how to build celince

just know latice = shines lot more

[rustic moth]

build I can usually figure out, but what's the use case?

[dire moth]

can silence hoyans passive of counter attacking so her ads wont counter attack allowing for diting comps

[rustic moth]

[dire moth]

and on inferno rengokutsu he has immunity to status and dot

from his passive not will field

so she can silence that to and u can inflict dot on him or other status

[rustic moth]

noted

[dire moth]

im sure once shes built the timer for inferno rengokutsu

will drop to like 30 seconds

instead of 2 min messaih clears

[pure phoenix]

@dire moth I finally can play my ssania on Hell 3-4 after I get my Mia built

Should I replace Rin/Freya to Celince or keep them there?

Pretty sure that Holden is good when I reached Inferno stage

[dire moth]

nice

[dire moth]

keep them there till u start to farm hoyan or rengokutsu inferno

[toxic pecan]

Hi double question here, i'm hearing left and right that landing a crit make debuff have more chance to land (sometimes i hear it's double the chances) is it true and if yes, is it better to build SSania 100% crit or is it better to build her ACC ?

[pure phoenix]

As for Doki Doki I can do hell 1 now with the same team as Terror

[dire moth]

only holden

[pure phoenix]

Any tips for Holden?

[dire moth]

12 golden latice

nah jk run 1 effect hit 1 crit rate

than just go speed for inferno

[pure phoenix]

The last one is Def bonus right?

[dire moth]

yeah or hp%

[cosmic shale]

i just saw this guide and was now able to progress terrormaton using shadow sania without lily

big thanks

[dire moth]

[empty jewel]

Just a reminder for myself for the sets to use #1382334085288169542 message

[somber island]

#1384714748712583168

As if lily doesn't buff ssania, this is what I did

[empty jewel]

What main stat modules does sania want? Crit damage and CC?

[pure phoenix]

1 effect Acc and 2 Hp bonus for survival

[civic hill]

how good is this lineup for a DoT team with some decent bulk

[swift robin]

Is there a max number of dots that can be applied at once

[dire moth]

pretty good wish i had celince

[dire moth]

nope

[swift robin]

Thanks!

Feels the UI caps at a certain num tho

[dire moth]

ignore UI trust me it use to cover the entire boss bar but if u had to many it push the icon into its name so to do this they reduced the amount of dots you could see so less clutter

[civic hill]

noice, now to just level the heck up and get some decent modules so i can farm more efficiently

[swift robin]

Okay!

[dire moth]

to see how many u actually have check the buff

^^^ you might have like 20 dots

but itll show like 10 so dw ik the feeling

[swift robin]

Yea that exactly aft 10 i was like is ts still applying LOL

[dire moth]

yeah cause it use to look like this for every boss and terror so dw ik

its just to clean up ui a bit

but just click on the buff bar and youll see all of them

here ill do a run

[swift robin]

Ahhh icic

[dire moth]

can only see 6 stacks here

but when u click on buffs

9 stacks of dot

[swift robin]

Ahh no wonder

Okok thanks alot!

[dire moth]

yeah its just UI Clean up is all

[empty jewel]

Is this alright?

[civic hill]

thoughts on renaming the SSania to Shania? would it sound cooler as shania or ssania

[dire moth]

up 2 u

[dire moth]

forg now yeah

inferno might be iffy

[empty jewel]

Nice. Gonna finish building fangus and test it out

On hell 2

Iv been brute forcing it with messiah and kloss so I'm learning to team build

[restive delta]

can i see dmg?

[dire moth]

^^^^ thats with the 50% damage reduction she does more damage than this in inferno but i havent been doing doki doki runs

my stats were also lower at the time

so probably does more now

[restive delta]

@ me when u do another run 😄

i wanna see DAMAGE

[dire moth]

of course

should do like 200k-400k once i slot in fury edge

highest ive hit with 50% damage reduction rn is 100k

[pure phoenix]

My Ssania doing her best in Hell 4 with this Epic gears

[final ferry]

If i dont have freya can i use holden

[empty jewel]

I'm having a hard time

I'm using 2 effect 1 HP bonus on sania, not sure if I should use 3 effect

[somber island]

@dire moth what about the garenteed crit guy

[slate ravine]

should i pull holden for dispel for terro inferno?

[somber island]

[slate ravine]

[somber island]

if you have heinrich or veronika its fine

you can cope

[slate ravine]

or does the 4 star kazuyo work

[somber island]

no

[slate ravine]

oh..

ok thanks lemme go throw some pulls

[somber island]

[slate ravine]

i got him in 23 pulls...

do i just build full defense

[somber island]

damn lucky dog

#1384401108663013496

congrats

this is what i run

for inferno

[slate ravine]

kk thanks

[west shell]

so i rerolled and i got shadow sania and lily

what should i do early game to set up dot team for inferno?

should i be building like diting as a early carry or go straight to building ss and fangus

[somber island]

You should build doki teams

And farm doki early game

With rilmocha or Xiada

It’s the easiest pivot to terror if you have the speed gear and tank gear already

[plush bluff]

could u show one auto run with it?

[boreal briar]

@dire moth you can silence will field?

[dire moth]

rengokutsu dot immunity isnt from will field

he actually gains a passive in inferno that he doesnt have in nightmare or hell

[somber island]

how do you beat inferno

inferno rengokuto

mf just 1 shot my who team

[empty jewel]

What's the best healer to use? I get pretty close in hell 3

[north holly]

valerian

[empty jewel]

Thought so. Was using her to get close in hell 3 already

[somber island]

lingluo before inferno

valerian in inferno

before inferno boss doesnt do enough dmage for you to give up healing and go all in to cheat death

valerian doesnt heal btw

[west shell]

should i target summon rilmocha or jst use xiada alr have her

[somber island]

xiada is fine

she is easier to gear anyway

mocha is a lot, a lot lot harder to gear

but she can clear doki inferno in 40 second so

on auto

[west shell]

why is that

both onslaught/keeneye no?

[somber island]

no

mocha needs fury momentem or else she doesnt 1 shot

xiada is less stricked

she can used onslaught

[boreal briar]

No momentum is better

Since you're applying debuffs

And we talking about oneshots

Not just using her to clear

If you want to oneshot with Rilmocha reliably you generally need momentum fury + good stats

With Rilmocha if you're not one shotting you need to wait for the next ult generally speaking from trying to help my friend find a comp that clears on auto

Yes of course in a good run you don't but Doki is layers and layers for RNG

You RNG your sleep/cc, you RNG them chain stunning your DPS you RNG your debuffs landing on them

[north holly]

so to get an inferno rilmocha, you need to have good aurora comp

[boreal briar]

And they HAD to give Doki mobs 120% eff res on top of whatever they had to begin with

No

To get a oneshot Rilmocha you need gear

You can still clear it's just not 40seconds

[somber island]

i finally did the mocha team btw

90% wr ish

freya sometimes doesnt land dbuff

[boreal briar]

I mean

If debuffs don't land run is over most of the time

That's just Doki

I can clear 8/8 for most of my continuous but sometimes it just fails cause Kazuyo doesn't land sleep on 3 mobs

[north holly]

whats the comp?

[somber island]

kazuyo is 100% wr

i mean debuff rate

issue is freya

she is 25*4

[boreal briar]

No

[somber island]

and my kloss is 80%*3

[boreal briar]

Mobs still have base chance to resist

Regardless of whether your final chance is 165% or 3000%

[somber island]

thats fine

you only need 5 out of 6 debuffs

to 1 shot

[boreal briar]

You need to land the sleep

If sleep doesn't land you don't get it

[cloud saffron]

battlewill or bramble? or doesn't really matter

[boreal briar]

On who?

[cloud saffron]

sania/fangus

[boreal briar]

Doesn't matter

But Bramble makes you tankier

The counter doesn't really matter

Realistically you counter maybe once every 2-3 fights

It's not gonna be the reason why you end up clearing reliably it just makes that one or two occasional runs faster

[twilit prairie]

Can you guys pin the first message?

[grand arrow]

Click the little up arrow in the top right of the screen

[twilit prairie]

Where? Am I tweaking?

[dire moth]

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[soft nest]

do i just cry if i dont have dorothy the wisher at lv51

[dire moth]

nah

[soft nest]

o not necessary? what could i swap

sorry im still mid read LOL

[dire moth]

who u got

[soft nest]

also this guide is so detailed ur the goat

[twilit prairie]

Thoughts on battle will Sania if no Lily

[dire moth]

ill respond in sec in league

[soft nest]

take ur time im in val LMFAO

[dire moth]

youre units are fine

Valerian Holden Fangus Beyotin SSania

^^^ thats your inferno team

works for hell khloros i would say is fine but the diting khloros falls off in inferno cause diting just dies to quick

[soft nest]

ohhh okay awesome thanks, typical builds and no speed tuning needed other than fangus > ssania?

[dire moth]

yeah

[soft nest]

ur da best ty

[dire moth]

speed sets if u run inferno early btw just swap ssania tank set to fangus

[icy valley]

Someone help me jump back to the top of the forum

[dire moth]

#1382334085288169542 message

[icy valley]

Thanks

Whats a good replace for lily in ssana team?

Ssania*

[steel kestrel]

thinking of this setup, pls check if its good
Lily - Bramble Swift - Artisan
SSania - Weave Swift - Jackal
Holden - Bramble Swift - Artisan
Fangus - Weave Swift - Jackal
Valerian - Wellspring Cure - Supernova

im more than halfway in building them

[dire moth]

beyotin dorothy if dont have either go for tank or tb push back like turandot rin

[icy valley]

Alr thanks

Im joining the cult now ig 🫡

[dire moth]

this is fine but make holden faster or second fastest so u dont waste the first few turns in inferno

[steel kestrel]

ah makes sense, my lily is maxed s1 and s2
ill try to make him faster than her

thanks!

[pure phoenix]

@dire moth Which skill should I prioritize on Holden?

[dire moth]

i uh

have him unskilled

[pure phoenix]

Ah same

[dire moth]

but id assume S1 S2 S3

[pure phoenix]

As for Mia I can just up her skill 2 to lv 2 and done or max it out?

[dire moth]

in that order just cause of pvp

[pure phoenix]

Ahh.. I just put him on pve and done

[dire moth]

yeah i dont got him skilled

but tbh it would be better to skill up Mia

just cause shes tankier than holden

^^^ if we saying latice invested wise

[pure phoenix]

Ah make her skill 2 to lv 3 and done right?

[dire moth]

yeah

or u can go all in 5-5-5

she gets 40% damage reduction

[pure phoenix]

Ahh that’s good

I think I can max her skill 3

[dire moth]

skill 3 pretty good

idk who imma build next

not maxed shelled yet but 4k attack on revelation

[pure phoenix]

Currently I’m trying to get my team to Inferno but I barely farm any bramble

[dire moth]

if youre lucky with battle will Yang can proc revelation 8 times in 1 turn

[pure phoenix]

I’m trying to resist pulling for diting/Lily rn cuz I wanna save my hydra for new L/D

[dire moth]

understandable

idk when new ld comes out but i plan 2 pull for them aswell dw

turns out Yang with lily is pretty op u can get almost infinite turns

[empty jewel]

So glad I built val a few days back. She's carrying me rn

[lofty thunder]

help!!

[neon garden]

No valerian, no lily. Guess you're looking for a miracle

[pure phoenix]

I guess I’ll have to try Valerian with Mia again

[dire moth]

swap out mia or holden for valerian dont need double dispeller

[dire moth]

show units u own basically

[lofty thunder]

this are the character I have

[dire moth]

Valerian Holden SSania Fangus rin ( if rin cant survive to throw up S2 Def up + Shield can try using celince idk how much you have invested into her tho but shields are good in inferno and she can also do dot )

freya is good for hell and below but she falls off in inferno but u can always try her as well just dont use S3 use S2

[neon garden]

Yo, is it a bug that Valerian can't use codex?

[dire moth]

cause holden will apply attack down effect res down while also dispelling immunity

[lofty thunder]

I'll try to reset freya and focus on valerian and celince for now

[dire moth]

which the right hand ( defense hand ) will always prio the debuff on the right or ( the very last debuff of the list )

nah dont reset freya

just try b4 reseting

^^^^ this way u dont waste a reset

[lofty thunder]

okay i'll try to run with valerian instead of mia for now

[dire moth]

basically Terror inferno is more of a speed race but the atk down combined with defense up shields helps a lot

thats why u can replace freya with rin for elemental res def up and shield

[dire moth]

also dont forget to max your shells just helped some1 else earlier and they didnt have maxed shells but now they clearing inferno

here u go @pure phoenix still missing some attack from prowess as well as 12 crit rate and 9% attack from his S2 leveling but

[languid prairie]

Why isn’t this working

[dire moth]

try using invincibility over S3

^^^ if your valerian gets hit again

if Fangus gets hit might be bit iffy but also might just want to run him full tank with artisan <<<< if u built the bramble 8 unbreaking 12 set for SSania hell difficulty

also might need more effect acc cause the dot is getting lots of res

[languid prairie]

Will try to but ssania is at 190 accuracy fungus only at 170 so will try and increase that are you recommending no speed team then?

Go tank team and have 3 artisans

[dire moth]

o idk than u have good accuracy

idk y boss is resing so much

[brazen dew]

we're just unlucky

[dire moth]

it might be better in your case to go tank team cause no lily

if u see a speed cycle team most the time its cause they have lily

[brazen dew]

most of the time my fungus misses every dot with 150 ea

[languid prairie]

So can you remind me of the speeds for that?

[dire moth]

dont need speed on tank sets

[harsh lava]

@dire moth in the info its bramble + timeweaver on ssania late game but i see a lot of people just running speed, is there a speed breakpoint where this works better or is the bramble more auto friendly etc?

[dire moth]

bramble timeweave is more friendly auto on hell 4 below and bramble unbreaking becomes more auto friendly on inferno once u can mix max all your units

^^^^ speed is just friendly if u have lily

or

u have beyotin

[harsh lava]

ah i do have lily, ive only just hit 35 and workin on shells right now but did manage hell 3 clear with just black flags and random modules and was wondering for module investments later after shells

[languid prairie]

So no speed at all just bramble and I unbreaking?

Any shells for the others that don’t have artisan?

Which is currently Holden and ssania

[dire moth]

Not really artian is just best tank unless u have access to lighthouse

[languid prairie]

I will try to build hp and defence on all then send builds once I have

[languid prairie]

For the tank should I prioritize wellspring or unbraking

[earnest egret]

about how much effect acc ?

[digital dagger]

Need help !
Terromaton I’m on nightmare II (manual), auto (nightmare I).
DokiDoki and Aurora hard 3 (auto). Trying to push into nightmare 1 for a start.

This is my roster

[digital dagger]

My diting is max out on all skills and +3 copies

[copper pivot]

Where is Ssania Jeremiahmeme

[digital dagger]

I have a 2-3 evo lattice
With Sania, Fangus. Who should I focus on ?
Can I reset Lian to build Rosa as DPS ? Spent a lattice on Lian

[reef rain]

I cantget hell category yetso i go bramble unbreak right?

[languid prairie]

I only have 2 artisans should I go and farm some more for the inferno team?

[wraith flare]

How much effect hit rate does Sania need?

[calm totem]

WHY FANGUS NOT LANDING DOT

bro has 157 ACC and he misses like 90% of the dot when he assists and he does assists quite a lot but no DoT lands

and i have Holden goes first to put down the -RES debuff on terromaton too

what can i do to make this bro land more DoT ?

[uncut comet]

if im not mistaken there is always a 10% resist chance regardless (at inferno) cause my fungus is at 180 and sometimes the boss still resist

[calm totem]

i think i'm the epitome of unlucky then

[uncut comet]

dw me too since i cant complete my speed setup for inferno up until now amd for the love of god i cant handle anymore manual cause i wanna do something else

[trail oracle]

still can't auto inferno hoyan even after building obol

You miss a stun on one add its jover

Then when I manual it, It just drops epic shells

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[cinder cargo]

anyone in here clear sharon on ethernet rally

i'm dying

[hard bobcat]

Is Amber only worth using with the Timeweave set? I have an Amber with Unbreakable and Bramble which allows me to hit 12 & 8 on the set effects. Or should I go with an Artisan?

Current stats without a shell

[tender jungle]

Any SSania Doki team?

[trail mauve]

you can't put dots on doki i think

[lofty thunder]

I'm stay with hell IV for now ehe

[trail mauve]

artisan?

or amber

btw does dorothy is a pseudo lily?

is the only character that i dont have for the "premium team"

[somber island]

Freya better as replacement Lily

[somber island]

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[wild lake]

waht's your shell on ssania and fangus ?

[vestal venture]

Best shell and matrix set for SSania?

[craggy perch]

is it possible to farm inferno terror without holden or mia?

[somber island]

yes

heinrich or veronika work

as dispel

[somber island]

with lily, bloodbath bramble, without, swift bramble

[craggy perch]

have veronika.

[vestal venture]

Why bloodbath? Just for sustain?
Also what shell?

[craggy perch]

i should have +266 spd on her right?

[somber island]

yes, if you have lily you want ssania on little speed

if you dont have lily you want ssania really fast

[somber island]

right, 264

[vestal venture]

What shell

[somber island]

on who

lily wants gigabyte

ssania if slow wants codex or artision

[vestal venture]

Why codex

[somber island]

to delay her s3

so you s2 2 times

rather than s1

[vestal venture]

Oh

[somber island]

giving more time for lily to drag her s1

[vestal venture]

What abt artisan? SSania rlly slow do artisan won’t proc a lot of times

I was thinking gigabyte to make up for lost speed

[somber island]

its just you dont want her to go very fast

you would much rather have lily drag her as much as possible before she s3

[vestal venture]

But what if she goes fast AND lily drags her for max stacks?

[somber island]

better

but how fast does your lily have to be tehn

if you ssania is 250 speed

your lily needs to be like 400 speed

[craggy perch]

alright thx

[stuck nymph]

If i have lily, ssania go swift bramble?

[somber island]

no

if lily, ssania slow

if no lily, ssania fast

[uncut comet]

yo daban what is the behavior of ssania if she gets drag multi time by lily on auto? will she s2 multiple times or she will s3 right away?

[somber island]

she will alwasy s2 into s3

its how many drags you can get between that maximize the s3 damage

[uncut comet]

i guess you cant do it on auto then.. how do your auto setup does then?

[somber island]

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#1386207053877346344

[uncut comet]

ahh i see so she does that like 2 times ( well on the 2nd time he prolly dead with dot on its turn)
tyty ill try to build my team towards that.
so i dont need to concern about speed on shania right on that. just full send bramble unbreak?

[boreal briar]

@somber island do you reckon Hoyan is worth?

[somber island]

full tank yes

[somber island]

no idea man

i saw a team that 1 shots renho

inferno

[boreal briar]

I mean you have her no?

[somber island]

yes

from normal summon

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-17563483835665589874

i didnt go for target summon with her

[uncut comet]

alrite thankies , now i need to wait for coins suply cos i just use it to up speed
i swear this game resources...

[somber island]

coin and data dungeon when

[uncut comet]

ikr

[boreal briar]

I need to box management soon

[uncut comet]

x2 on top of it if they will

[boreal briar]

Im actually hitting 2000 pieces of modules soon

At 180 now I think before the end of tonight I will hit 2000

[somber island]

i have like

800

[boreal briar]

Since I dropped from inferno to farm Hell IV

So runs are alot faster and reliable

[somber island]

dont have nearly enough coint to upgrade

[boreal briar]

I already got some of the inferno set pieces

So Imma chill at Hell IV

bro i farmed about 1500 pieces

I got 6 pc of eff acc swiftrush

None of them rolled even 1 spd stat base

[somber island]

lmao

im doing inferno

i think more gear

cope

[boreal briar]

I took screenshots of 30 x10 runs ea

No diff

Just that inferno drops inferno sets

But like I said I dont need the inferno sets

I need speed stat pieces on the right side

[somber island]

inferno doki gives

15% speed

[boreal briar]

Like I said

[somber island]

speed is speed

[boreal briar]

Only on DPS shells

[somber island]

lmao

[boreal briar]

Its useless for me cause Im not going to build those shells for support

[somber island]

ya thats the brain dead part

[boreal briar]

I need swiftsmite

[somber island]

maybe later in pvp racing supports runs white fang lpl

[boreal briar]

Which is inferno Aurora that I cant farm

[somber island]

i saw a xiada team

with 3 healers

that was auto ing inferno aurora at like 70% wr

[boreal briar]

Yea but I lack a third healer

So I cant

Not for this 2x anyways

[somber island]

right

[woeful grotto]

Samia obol fangus and Val for inferno Hoyan ?think seen a replay but can’t find it without lily anymore 😤

[wild lake]

What’s the speed tune for terror ?

My team is ssania fangus lily valerian holden

[somber island]

yes

sounds fine

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496 In pings

[simple obsidian]

any turandot build recommended for terror hell?

[wild lake]

thank's

[torn vapor]

I'm able to farm manually hell with: SSania,Fangus,Valerian,Mia,Freya. (NO LILY)

xD

[stuck nymph]

Any recommend team for niconana, sania lily, and what other two? For inferno

[lofty thunder]

I use black flag & gigabyte on them

but alicorn is good to cleanse debuff from boss

[boreal briar]

Man this game is fucking bullshit @somber island

My continuous just stopped working

Lily just started twin tricking Holden instead and I'm didn't change anything

What the fuck is wrong with this shit game

[sick berry]

anyone knows the rec acc for terror

i sometimes miss with 180 eff

[somber island]

Lmao sounds like my hoyan team

I gave up too

[somber island]

There’s a 10% base chance to miss so

180 is best you can do

[sick berry]

i mean im using double eff acc idk if i should go triple

[somber island]

Doesn’t matter how much eff acc you have the base miss rate is still there

[bronze sparrow]

S.Sania, Valerian, Fangus, Holden, Tsukiyo Mi. Does this comp work? I have no Liliy or Freya. T_T

[somber island]

Can try

[bronze sparrow]

Anything else to replace that tsukiyo mi?

[somber island]

#1384714748712583168 this is what I have for Freya

If you can’t do Freya I’d imagine any other cr booster being fine

If def buff even better

[bronze sparrow]

I just pulled her so Idk whether I just use her

or I just invest purple lattice into my chiaki the echo

[somber island]

You are definitely fine manual

Issue is auto

[bronze sparrow]

Maybe it's a cachi the guard angle

[boreal briar]

I feel like base miss rate is higher in inferno

Cause you don't go from landing 90% of your debufs

To fucking resisting 5 debuffs in a row

[somber island]

Lmao ya the rng of this game is insane

You don’t see much stuff like yhis

@boreal briar tf even happened