SSania guide

[somber island]

Holy fk

Wet dream

Now imagine that being a count

[lunar pasture]

It doesn't work with her S2? That's AoE aswell

[somber island]

Holden stopped working btw

I have gave up

Maybe after I sleep it will work

[boreal briar]

Yes but it's one hit no?

[lunar pasture]

Yea

[boreal briar]

And since your CDs will always sync up

One hit revelation is meh

you should always revelation on ult

Cause both are 3CD at max

Revelation is just an extra multiplier every hit

So it doesn't consider base multiplier

On number of hits

[lunar pasture]

Ah

I guess Xiada is 2x aoe hit?

[boreal briar]

No

Xiada is 4 hit AOE

Every single turn

[lunar pasture]

Oh

Well damn

Now i'm kinda sad i don't have her lol

I haven't used my selector yet tho, but i was thinking of getting beyontin from there, but idk tbh

[boreal briar]

The best option is Kloss because even though you can't abuse revelation like Xiada

Rimolcha STILL works

It's not worth taking a Xiada just to replace Rilmocha

It's a waste

[somber island]

Rilmocha fastest

If you and only if you have the gear

And count

[lunar pasture]

I have kloss

[somber island]

And 4 maxed codex

[boreal briar]

Xiada just abuses revelation

[somber island]

Xiada slower

But easier

[boreal briar]

Yea but easier

[lunar pasture]

Yea that's what i thought

But i'm nowhere close to even being able to do inferno doki atm

[cinder cargo]

give me

[boreal briar]

Go manual farm

[cinder cargo]

been doing that

[boreal briar]

I'm not leaving until I get a 3/3 Jackal

I got these piece but I haven't seen a single Jackal with timeweave and speed

[north holly]

in inferno nana who is a good alternative to lily?

[cinder cargo]

@north holly

this guy used ashu instead of lily

but this is for hoyan, but should be able to apply to nico as well

maybe not ashu xd since grass could use valerian

[boreal briar]

But that's manual tho

[cinder cargo]

look at the one below

continous battle info

[boreal briar]

Oh

I'm blind nvm

LOL

Yea the key is Obol

[cinder cargo]

obol and high speed on everyone

if no lily

[boreal briar]

Cause you just need a codex Obol you can get no counters for about 6 turns on SSania

You need codex on Obol tho

Unless they not using

[cinder cargo]

#1384230665461170346 message

this is where i found that

codex on obol and ssania

[dense meadow]

i need a team for inferno nico and hoyen, dont have lily

[cinder cargo]

look at what i just posted

[slow drift]

When using fangus for ssania, what skills do u level up for fangus

[cinder cargo]

s2 > s1

[tame lichen]

joining the club

[pure phoenix]

Wait who should I change for aurora farm?

[trail oracle]

Unfortunately, ya can't use ssania on aurora

or any dot unit

Build diting I guess

[left shuttle]

I can't wait for the event. My diting is still at lvlv 23 and no mats for skill ups.😔😔

[pure phoenix]

Not sure yet cuz I think we could dispel thy immunity debuff

[trail oracle]

I'm gonna wait 10 min before daily reset and buy all the refresh so I can burn 2 days worth of full refresh on x2 event

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[pure phoenix]

Currently try my best to get my team to hell farm

[trail oracle]

Aurora is immune to dot, that's the ssania nerf

[pure phoenix]

Ahh…

[trail oracle]

I suggest building a good single target dps

Diting, Rosa, Massiah are a few

[dense meadow]

wait wha, how would this work

[trail oracle]

I just won't refresh my daily energy until last minute

And when It resets, I have 1000 energy to burn

Then I have another reset

[pure phoenix]

I was thinking that that dispel could dispel aurora buff

That has immunity to debuff

[trail oracle]

You could dispel aurora immunity, but you wont still land dot

you could apply other debuffs tho

[pure phoenix]

Ahh… I guess diting is my only choice

[trail oracle]

People were doomposting about it saying ssania nerf and free recall

[lunar pasture]

Hmm

[maiden kiln]

Is there a guide available for Inferno Hoyan?

[vast skiff]

@dire moth Hey, help this guy build SSania team @astral yarrow

[astral yarrow]

thank you for adressing me here i couldnt find it

[vast skiff]

Ask the thread maker. They can help ya.

[cinder cargo]

same thing with xiada now both are showing insane value in inferno

[trail oracle]

I resetted my ril for my xiada, I can actually use xiada on other contents unlike ril

[muted gale]

(revelation surely isnt op)

[astral yarrow]

from what i ve seen i m still lacking core characters. i ll wait a bit. thank you very much

[muted gale]

xiada can be a carry for Aurora too which is great

[trail oracle]

Yeah saw someone beat it to hell 4

With the same comp for doki

[muted gale]

and you can ego people by not building a diting

[vast skiff]

Wait fr? I can peacefully rest knowing that I don't need Ril. Xiada is my only 6 star unit yey.

[trail oracle]

Yeah, if you have xiada you can invest in her

[vast skiff]

But I'm unable to clear Nightmare 2 Aurora what am I lacking? Support levels or Wrong matrices or Skill levels?

[cinder cargo]

aurora is a heal check

lingluo /w supernova helps a lot

[vast skiff]

This is my roster

[cinder cargo]

that or you blow up aurora quick

[tardy spade]

We are quite off topic from ssania eh?

[trail oracle]

It's fine

[muted gale]

This is the church of Ssania, sometimes you get a lil off topic at church

[trail oracle]

Don't need to be so strict, if someone asks for ssania guides. People will answer

[muted gale]

this is our safe haven from the 15,000 people in general chat lmao

[trail oracle]

True

[boreal briar]

It's not a buff

It's will field which is a permanent thing that doesn't show up on the boss buff bar

[pure phoenix]

Ahh..

[boreal briar]

Obol and codex of magic, if you want to auto reliably codex of magic on ssania as well

[boreal briar]

That's immunity

Which is a fixed wording you should see it the same as your own char if they have immunity

Check boss mechanics

She's immune to DoT not cause of immunity

[pure phoenix]

Ahh that mechanic is will field

[maiden kiln]

oh, didnt think of 2nd Codex on S.Sania. Can you explain how that makes it more consistent?

[leaden zealot]

should i 6* SSania?

[trail oracle]

She could work at 5 star for now

Prioritize 6 starring your PVE dps

[dire moth]

was asleep

[dire moth]

just woke up

[boreal briar]

Because it delays the ult

Sania skill prio apparently is S2 > S3

So if you reset S2 she will S2 again

[maiden kiln]

Oh! That sounds great, thanks!

[astral yarrow]

it s ok really i dont have the dorothy so kinda cant do much with ssania for now. especially since i kinda dumped ressources into diting already

[dire moth]

alr just send when mats

[astral yarrow]

in a month prob haha

[muted gale]

coin bottleneck goes crazy

[cloud mist]

The only sr im missing is fangus, Even got lily two times..

[oak yarrow]

Best module, matrix and shell for ssania for farm please thankks

[muted gale]

check the pins, it will cover all stages of the game and farming you're at

[frozen panther]

You kidding me I want lilly

[dire moth]

bramble if good rng heavenly says its garbo but my rng just to good i guess Swiftrush 12 timeweaver 12 is the consistent one in inferno till u can run the 12-8-6

[gaunt ingot]

Dang saw a Lily-less inferno
Obol, Ssania, Fangus, Veronica, Tsukiyomi

4 codex, 1 random shell

[calm totem]

how do you get the transcend summon ?

[frozen panther]

Ssr free

[calm totem]

oh the free card on 14 day

[frozen panther]

I am shock I got

[calm totem]

im behind 2 days :c

[frozen panther]

Yes

Khoro dupe 2

[dense meadow]

its a marathon not a sprint dw

Can anyone help? I dont have Lily or doro wisher, what can I run for Hoyen and for Rengo?

[frozen panther]

I want lilly

[calm totem]

Everyone wants Lily

The Lilyless is killing my account

[solid jetty]

is this somehow possible without lily and fangus?

[dire moth]

i waiting on purple latice

[dire moth]

yeah

i jsut waiting on pruple latices

[shell dew]

what happened to heinrich btw, everyone recommended him for reroll but now he is used nowhere

[dire moth]

but mats 2

[dire moth]

got no idea

[nimble cliff]

Which skill should i proritize for fangus?

[solid jetty]

which units do i use instead of fangus and lily?

[dire moth]

S2 > S1

[languid prairie]

What shell should I use on valerian

[left shuttle]

He's used in terror inferno and aurora inferno. I've seen him there.

[dire moth]

Valerian , SSania , Turandot , Rin , +1 <<< run a Turn booster or atk down debuffer

[inland nova]

you guys know there's a pin with the actual guide, right? #1382334085288169542 message

[viral valve]

Global doesn’t utilize Heinrech as much imo

[muted gale]

Holden op

[languid prairie]

Is there a best shell for valerian?

Was thinking artizan but can’t get a 12 12 with that for wellspring and cure

[dire moth]

Gigabyte for speed cycle if not use artian

[solid jetty]

doesnt rin already atk down debuff? or do i need 2? and why use turandot? for the buff and dispel?

[inland nova]

She doesn't benefit a lot from shells, so go for Gigabyte. That way you can also get 12/8 wellspring cure

[muted gale]

I appreciate the work you've done S.Sania, so hard to find good stat breakpoints on any other boss for any other team

[languid prairie]

Is artian an artisan

Thought she’s meant to be slow not wanting to speed cycle with her

[dire moth]

yeah i just spell it artian my asian heritage for english language

[dire moth]

cant proc gigabyte while in hazy dream

^^^^ so if terror one shots some1 early the 3 turns will happen and boost her so u can proc invincibility

[languid prairie]

Ahh will put that on her then seems better in a way

[rain zenith]

someone got link for the auto team

[languid prairie]

Will try both as have both built

[wanton herald]

What is the minimum to make it work? I have sania and fangus? anyone else is a must for hell 3?

[dire moth]

nah not really just SSania fangus can work with buffers or cycler

[wanton herald]

can u give me some examples of teammates please? to see if I have them, because Im stuck before hell 😦 I put the last new post to see if someone can help me

[dire moth]

[solid jetty]

quick question, i tought terror inferno has immunity, so how do you debuff him or dispel him? there is no one in the team who can dispel? or am i wrong?

[wanton herald]

that team would work for hell terrormaton? I will need to level up the last two only, I have them all

[dire moth]

hell and inferno if u max + skill up

[solid jetty]

@dire moth

[wanton herald]

which skills for sania? fangus need the follow up skill, the 3rd party member I have her skill3 maxed

[shell dew]

apperently holden is better for it

[dire moth]

turandot has a 4 buff dispell

[shell dew]

europe neither. but I think I did remember on release date heinrich was kinda hyped with lily togeter

[dire moth]

S1 on SSania

[dire moth]

turandot 4 buff dispell and 120% turnbar debuff

[wanton herald]

and the stuf for fangus and sanya? just hitting prob and life/def?

[dire moth]

check pins not updated for inferno cycle runs but is the base ( cycle is just swift rush sets )

[solid jetty]

well turandot yes, but in your guide in the non f2p team there is no one who can dispel? for example if i take rin in this team there is no one who can dispel? or am i wrong?

or can fangus dispel?

[dire moth]

turandot is suppose to be there guide just isnt updated

for holden

or turan

turandot is a F2P unit

[solid jetty]

so you would play SSania Freya, lily, Fangus and holden/turandot?

in the non f2p team?

or do you remove freya from the team?

[dire moth]

if u have holden yes if u dont turandot

you remove freya for valerian inferno difficulty

shes good in hell falls off inferno

[solid jetty]

ok ty

[calm totem]

@dire moth is Mia better sustainer than Valerian for inferno ? Ssania / Fangus / Lily / Freya comp

[solid jetty]

what team would work for inferno with these units tho? if they were maxed? @dire moth

Valerian, SSania, Turandot, Rin (and Chiaki/Mio?)

[dire moth]

same exact comp just replace fangus with a + 1

dont need mio

[solid jetty]

wdym by a +1?

[dire moth]

no shes just dispeller valerian is better cause immunity and death revive

+1 slot flex

you aint using fangus cause dont own

so it becomes a +1

Dinah to squishy for DOT cause erosion doesnt proc on erosion

[mystic heart]

ty for this f metaaaaa already finish hell IV and im lvl 38

[solid jetty]

so SSania, Dorothy, Rin, Turandot + anything? for example another sustain or control?

[mystic heart]

love u @dire moth ❤️

[dire moth]

Dorothy white coat

[solid jetty]

yeah i meant her by that

[rain zenith]

auto?

[dire moth]

but if u do that max Crit or Max tank On white Coat

^^^ her abilities can crit which give double value

[solid jetty]

ok ty

[dire moth]

but if u build a bit tanky she should survive one hit in inferno

which might save u a hazy dream turn run

[mystic heart]

no, i cant auto for this level, suck modul

[dire moth]

nice

[solid jetty]

ok, so i go SSania, Dorothy white coat, Rin, Turandot and Valerian?

[dire moth]

yeah unless u pull better unit or fangus

[solid jetty]

ok ty

@dire moth what shell and Skill order for Turandot?

[dire moth]

S2 > Swift Bramble

[solid jetty]

Artisan?

[dire moth]

Artisan for now swap out for lighthouse later

[solid jetty]

ty

[white smelt]

I refused to invest in SSania but after i get her for 3rd time instead of lily

Rngsus said u need it

If only we could reset our stuff how much we want

I have this

Invested in this dude because i have 3 dupes of him

But didn't see any profit so far

[dire moth]

takes a lot of invest 4 khloros

good but takes investment

[cinder cargo]

ya he's a beast

[white smelt]

U mean like max his skills ?

[frosty wave]

is the church thriving

[dire moth]

we locked in for the hoyan shells

high roll hollow

[frosty wave]

oh my god i've been trying to build hoyan today

[dire moth]

so now its set for the 3-3-3 fury keeneye fury edge

[frosty wave]

for gw

barely managed

didn't get a crit rate holden piece, farmed all day

[frosty wave]

dis is what I got for her

[dense meadow]

does restarting a fight consume stamina?

[frosty wave]

not if you're above 11 stam

[dire moth]

still good just missing keeneye

[frosty wave]

yeah well I hope I get some keeneye pieces on 21st

i've saved 70 stabilizers

I was thinking of putting ssania on codex for terra inferno autofarm, but I hate the matrix sets that it gives

[dire moth]

[dense meadow]

whats the way to build holden for ssania team? @dire moth

[dire moth]

just speed

typical debuffer

[dense meadow]

okay heall yeah, and EFFECT ACC main stat or...?

[dire moth]

only 1

crit rate on other

[dense meadow]

wow okay

[cinder cargo]

ya because if he crits, he doubles the chance of s3 proc

[lunar pasture]

40 pulls for holden, #feelsgoodman

[coral dune]

Does dot trigger lighthouse

[rain zenith]

how to auto it somone sand me alink but cant find it no more

[spark latch]

No stickers found in message.

[somber island]

I neede 2 acc lol

1 I can’t hit the acc req

[dire moth]

crit should boost it to 100

if u crit

[dire moth]

idk

[cinder cargo]

is crit actually better than eff acc what about s2 landing

[woeful grotto]

Sania team with no lily for inferno shell farming ?

[dire moth]

up 2 preference rn i think

S2 feels like it lands with just 1 eff acc tho

but maybe i just lucky

[cinder cargo]

obol ssania fangus +1 (valerian usually)

250spd 249spd 248spd, codex on obol and ssania, everyone 150% eff acc gl

[woeful grotto]

Ty ty will build during x2 🙂

[dense meadow]

i need a hoyan auto team, i dont have lily, what can i use?

even just for hell

[cinder cargo]

diting

[digital steppe]

Anything for auto inferno ?

Tired of manualing Nico and Terror 🤣🤣🤣

[foggy matrix]

Finally can beat hell IV terror but still do it manual🤣🤣

[muted gale]

oops I got too impatient trying to brute force a doki h4 team and fucked it up so bad I can't do doki h3 anymore lmao

[foggy matrix]

There is no guide about beat aurora?😅

[tame steeple]

Aurora immune to dot

[foggy matrix]

I mean not in here channel😅
On guide channel

[muted gale]

there isn't a guide for fuck all besides the Ssania church lmao

[foggy matrix]

I watched youtube about beat aurora and that aurora still hasn't immune debuff🤣

[dire moth]

Valerian SSania Fangus Obol or lily

^^^ works for nico inferno

[muted gale]

been trying to find good info on Xiada Hell 4 Doki stat requirements all day and theres nothing lmao

[digital steppe]

Wish there was a better way to organize this thread 😮

[digital steppe]

Oh that worked ur the goat lol

If we can do terror we chilling 🤣

[cinder cargo]

haven't upgraded my gear yet since beating doki hell 4, but i had only s3 maxed when i was able to clear it a long time ago

[muted gale]

oh tyty!

ah so I just have no attack oops

[cinder cargo]

what player level r u

eh i guess it doesn't matter, i cleared hell 4 with white fang too

but if u get revelation it is a huge dps increase

[muted gale]

im only 40

but yeah its def a dps issue it feels like

well dps and speed as usual

just need speed on supports and dps

need Xiada to kill in 3 attacks

ok we terror h4 until dps set for Xiada and we go back

[vestal bluff]

can u guys help me to build team for terror & dokidoki with this guys?

[steep orchid]

SSania (S1 Max), Fangus (S2 Max), Valerian (S3 Max), you can choose Beyontin (S2 lvl 4), freya, dorothy the wiser

beyontin without skill ups would be difficult to use just saying, doable but not as good as she could be

[vestal bluff]

what stats should i focus on ssania? effect acc full??

[steep orchid]

150% eff acc, rest into tank,spd

if you lack the gear, then like 120% effect acc is good enough, you have to make sure she lives long enough to get some skills off

fangus is also same stats

[vestal bluff]

i just can clear terror hell 3 should i use this module for up them?

[steep orchid]

how far is your doki clear?

[vestal bluff]

eh sorry

hard 3 i mean not hell 3 hahaha

terror & doki hard 3

[steep orchid]

I would personally, just focus on getting to niconana first

shells give the most damage vs module

[vestal bluff]

oh okay*

but its okay use lian until i reach niconana as main dps?

[steep orchid]

that should be ok

[vestal bluff]

i didnt build any dps only lian

[steep orchid]

you can reset her for rosa, diting later

jsut get through lian quests first

[vestal bluff]

i have henrich what is he use for

clear all lian quest??

[steep orchid]

he will be good for dispel

yea, in the hyperlink quests you need to use lian

clear those first before you reset

[vestal bluff]

okay*

thanksss

[silent charm]

Hi, I want to try SSania, whats the better option if I dont have Lily and Freya?

[cinder cargo]

ssania obol fangus valerian

well that's for inferno shells though

[gaunt ingot]

Veronica good for inferno though steals Immunity and gives it to allies

[vast skiff]

There's many replacements now. Even Holden is better than him apparently.

[lament zealot]

Whats better to setup first? S sania team for shell/terra farm or doki team for speed sets?

[tardy flume]

obol build for inferno?

[merry violet]

@dire moth When does bramble def slow sania team stop working? At what hell level do i switch over to the speed version of DOT?

[pure mica]

I see on recent clears that instead of freya people are running holden, any other SSR alternatives to these 2?

will kloss work?

[slate rain]

what dificulty? inferno?

need holden for dispel inferno imun

you can use vero or heinrich

[somber island]

it works in inferno

just fine

#1384401108663013496

the whole point of her being slow

is so lily can drag her to s1

so when she detonate

she does big dmage

[somber island]

ssania fangus valerian are must, holden best dispeller but can use heinrich or veronika, lily best drag but can use freya, note if you use freya you need to run speed ssania and you only get about 60% wr rather than near 100% in auto

[merry violet]

Uh i meant the comp without lily sorry

[somber island]

no holden also mean you need more bulk and acc bc you dont get the attack down and res down

and s2 push back

[pure mica]

I see

[somber island]

no lily just full speed ssania

#1384714748712583168

[pure mica]

So holden is pretty much necessary to make it easier

[somber island]

to make it easier

you dont need it

[merry violet]

So no lily just means bramble sania isnt good

[somber island]

just less gear req and make you able to do inferno a bit earlier

no lily means speed ssania and dont use codex, use amber or artison instead

[pure mica]

Tha ks

[somber island]

codex ssania only work when lily is up

[pure mica]

Thanks

Guess im pulling holden

[merry violet]

😭

What kind of speed are we talking about without lily

[somber island]

250 ish is fine

if you go higher you also need dispeller to be higher

you can probably run slower with a jackoguard

but again, the more you cheap out the less wr you get with auto

[brazen sage]

Hello im looking for team i can take into for inferno terror with shadow sania. i was thinking of doing Shadow sania/Lily/Holden/valerian but i dont know who i should bring in as last team member for this team i would love to have fangus but dont got one. any charactar i should use and bring into inferno terror with this team? any helped would be greatly appreciated

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496

[merry violet]

I'll have to hunt for speed substats to reach this right

[somber island]

Yes, average 2 ish

Average 2 rolls I mean

So 6 speed on each piece

[somber island]

.

[dire moth]

Sorry haven’t been here to respond today

Just got let out the ER

[merry violet]

Ah damn

[merry violet]

If you're up to it could you look above a bit and give your thoughts on lilyless bramble ssania and how high it can go before needing to switch to speed ssania

If not then nvm

[dire moth]

It’ll be fine through hell 4 inferno might require u to tighten up the sub stats

[merry violet]

Whats the auto winrate like?

[boreal briar]

@dire moth

Which do you reckon?

[frigid tendon]

@dire moth in the absence of Lily, S.Sania should be using swiftrush instead of bramble?

[dense meadow]

you guys still max stamina refilling or no?

[inland terrace]

only using gems. Not touching my consumables. Only got 6 or something atm, but oh well

[dense meadow]

i never touched my stamina items because content creators said save for 2x events

[inland terrace]

lucky

[dense meadow]

anyway im gonna max refill gems right now, reset is in 2 mins. max refill again and not play tomorrow essentially

and have almost 3 days of max stam refills for 2x event from crystals

[somber island]

#1384714748712583168

[inland terrace]

isnt the 2x in like a day?

yeah it's in a day

21st

[dense meadow]

yeah so in 24 hours

[safe patrol]

does anyone have a dot team setup for dokidoki hell stages? Need recommendations

[mystic heart]

can Ssania defeat doki doki hell?

[somber island]

Not in ways I can think of

Dot is single target doki has 10 enemies

[sinful ivy]

Much much effect acc do i need for s.sania

[wraith flare]

Is lilyless comps possible for inferno?

Also what are your thoughts on using codex of magic on ssania?

[north holly]

what skills to prioritize on fangus?

[somber island]

#1384714748712583168

[somber island]

All, s2 s3 first

[somber island]

Codex doesn’t work without Lily

[dense meadow]

REMINDER TO MAX REFILL YOUR STAMINA AND DONT PLAY THE GAME TODAY, for 2x event tomorrow

[regal skiff]

Can ssania be run at 5 star with no lattice alongside lily, obol(no fangus), freya, valerian?

Or should i 6 star her and use my 4 yellow lattice on one of her skill?

[dense meadow]

you really ought to have her S1 maxed

[regal skiff]

Okay I can do that. How about star? Does she absolutely need 6*? Oh the mode I am trying to clear is teror hell 1

And can i substitute fangus with obol?

[vast skiff]

@dire moth Yo, did Fangus get nerfed? Is his replacement Holden? Pls help his person out

@tribal patrol

[tribal patrol]

Did fangus actually get nerfed?

Fangus Bugfix

“Resolved a logic inconsistency where Contamination could trigger multiple times in the same round. It now properly applies once per turn cycle, in line with global assist rules for passive effects.”

Idk if its true I saw it from a random chatter 😭😭

[trail oracle]

It's not actually a nerf if that's the case

Is this in the official dev notes?

[tribal patrol]

Ion know

[trail oracle]

If it's from one random guy in chat then I'd put my doubts about it

[left shuttle]

True. They're even constantly spreading misinfo about Diting there.

[strange temple]

Is black flag good on SSania? I havent beaten past Febian yet

[trail oracle]

Yes, you can use it

[dense meadow]

5* is fine until like inferno

[dense meadow]

no, fangus is a must. s1 and s2 maxed

[dire moth]

good for now

just got relased from ER 8 hours ago

but just woke up

[lethal atlas]

THIS IS THE FUNNIEST BUG EVER

it's now on 35 stacks

and s. sania is just immortal

(unfortunately she's getting stunlocked)

ok i know how to trigger the bug

just use valerian i think lol

is this bug abuse-able 😭

i might just use eff. res and abuse this bug

[dire moth]

[lethal atlas]

triggered amber 10 times now

[dire moth]

[vast skiff]

@feral ocean come here
@dire moth Help this guy make SSania team in early game

[willow knot]

Yo is Holden an essential to the team for terrormaton auto? I think I'm short on on pity him by 20 pulls. Rn I'm manually using Mia

[vast skiff]

Mia 💀

[willow knot]

I know lol, I do have veronica but I like mia better she extends the invincibility for 2 turns that's how I do it right now

[vast skiff]

Ya don't got content for getting 20 more pulls?

How many days left anyways?

I got Hoyan and Holden day 1

[willow knot]

5 days and a bit

[vast skiff]

Hoyan 7 pity in perma randomly

Holden at 80 pity in limited
Then again in perma at 70 pity...

[willow knot]

I jumped the gun on Hoyan and it goes to 80💀 now I'm short lmao talking about regret

[vast skiff]

@feral ocean @obsidian night

[vast skiff]

Can you help these two guys?

Idk the module sets required for SSania teams

[willow knot]

I will try I guess

[feral ocean]

thanks! @vast skiff

[vast skiff]

Ye, I don't play Shadow Sania yet. I'm trying to get her. Ask the guys here, they know better.

[willow knot]

but my team is so specific in turn order to get the boss to attack the invincibility 2 time

[obsidian night]

Thanks!!

[vast skiff]

Np

Wait, imma reply the guide message so y'all can redirect there

.

[willow knot]

After reading this let me know if u have any problems. I will try to answer them

[feral ocean]

so guys, at very early stage of the game (level 15, can run Hard 1 Terrormaton and Hard 1 DokiDoki), how should we build SSania?

[vast skiff]

See ya guys, imma go on the game to grind

[feral ocean]

oops reading now sry

[frozen lance]

How does lily s2 priority in auto

[muted gale]

highest attack teammate

[feral ocean]

lol, is SSania a troll?

doing Hard 2 on 3 star with green gear

[frozen lance]

So why is Holden getting targeted over ssania am I being dumb

[muted gale]

is she getting an attack debuff before Lily goes

[frozen lance]

No

[muted gale]

skill diff

(this is as far as my knowledge of how lily works goes sorry)

She targets the ally with the highest attack and thats always been fine for me

is holden getting a random attack buff maybe?

idk what content you're doing

[frozen lance]

Terror inferno

Holden moves, strips

[feral ocean]

guys QQ, is there an order of skill to use (not where to use the latice)?

[frozen lance]

One arm moves, then boss, then lily

Lily targets holden, no matter who gets hit with the initial wound/def break

[trail oracle]

There is not

If you are pertaining to eg. set ssania to use s3 on the 3rd turn

[feral ocean]

right now I do my S3 when the boss has a shit load of debuffs xD

[trail oracle]

Oh you are talking about manual

[feral ocean]

ya I cant auto anything yet

Im doing hard 3 on green modules

[trail oracle]

Pretty good, if you can manual farm it to get good modules then you can maximize your energy more

[feral ocean]

SSania is absolutely crazy though ngl... my Fangus is lvl 35 3* and she still rocks it

[trail oracle]

Personally I won't farm on manual

That's just crazy

[feral ocean]

well otherwise my Lily isnt targeting my SSania... also, I think SSania would most likely waste her S3 on auto?

[frozen lance]

Woah wait what do you mean set ssania to use s3 on turn 3

[trail oracle]

I just made an example that it's impossible to set skill order on auto

[frozen lance]

Oh yeah I was gonna say is there some mechanic I’ve managed to completely miss lol

[trail oracle]

Not totally a waste since you'll still get the full damage DoT on s3, a little bit slower than manual but it's fine for me

I'm ready for x2

[feral ocean]

btw guys I dont have Diting on my SSania account, just got SSania, Lily, Freya, Xiada, Helkid, Tiamat...

Is SSania able to replace Diting in grim pursuits?

[tame lichen]

totally

[hexed harness]

vid for how to autobattle inferno hoyan

everything <245 spd

[willow knot]

why is everything gotta be slower than 245?

[willow knot]

or did u mean more than?

[hexed harness]

have to be slower

either everything faster or everythings lower

than boss's first action

otherwise the dots will expire

[willow knot]

ohh got it thanks'

[dire moth]

[muted gale]

Show stam pots

[hexed harness]

if anyone has autobattle setup for inferno terror plz show

so i can copy

[willow knot]

I really do want to farm shell, do u guys plan to use ALL the stam pod only for the *2

[hexed harness]

yes u should have farmed shells this week b4 event started

[willow knot]

Bruh it starts in 15 minute in my server lol

[hexed harness]

use all stam on 2x event to level units or whatnot

[muted gale]

Sad day when I will hit 45 this week and need revo

[swift robin]

I know the guide said bramble for ssania and fungus but is spd actl btr? I do have lily

[muted gale]

I think @dire moth likes speed more as a final product but you need SPEED

[swift robin]

Im stuck at hell 3 rn, I guess ill stick with bramble for the time being then

[willow knot]

In terrormaton I think u gotta rush it in this stage of the game, but when we bulk up a bit more and have like codex on we can go consider go bramble for the AUTO and stuff that's my take

[muted gale]

I pray wasting time on a level 40 revo shell this week will give me the final dps push I need for doki4

Otherwise I will look silly

[dire moth]

speed is better later in inferno for speed cycling

but if u aint maxed run a tank counter

but sometimes youll get unlucky rng when the arm gets a crit and terror gets a crit so it does like 40k dmg

speed cycling just takes a while cause SwiftRush Timeweaver on Gigabytes are decently hard to get

[muted gale]

Holden speed req is still 264 right

[dire moth]

either that or my luck on shells is ass for gigabyte

yeah holden u still want him to be faster than lily

this way you dont waste the W twintrick on ssania early

[brazen sage]

If I don't have fangus for my shadow sania team do I just use a flex character to filled in for time being till I pull one? Any advice here would be nice

[dire moth]

^^^^ not required but it will let u get the 2 proc

[muted gale]

Smort

[dire moth]

yeah u can flex if u run turandot holden u can do 220% turnbar push back while turandot cycles def up

or u can run Rin and Cycle Def up Shield with Valerian

[muted gale]

We pray revolution fixes my Xiada damage for Hell 4 doki

Imagine the world they uncap stam refreshes for the 2x event

[dire moth]

just ignore the 50% damage reduction on hell 4

[brazen sage]

I see I see. I was thinking building her or just slot in Freya perhaps

[dire moth]

rin turandot both good for inferno

freya is good for hell 4 and below

but falls off in inferno

[brazen sage]

I see I guess I will go with turandot then

[feral ocean]

wish me luck guys, gotta clear terrormaton hard 3 10x manually with Lian in the group

[muted gale]

You love yourself some angel winged characters huh

[brazen sage]

So I'm guessing if I use her for inferno clear my team be.
Shadow sania/lily/holden/turandot and valerian right.

Does she need any lattice or no?
I have 7 purple one left to use

[craggy perch]

which grim pursuit infernos we can do with ssania?

[dire moth]

u will to im a secret dev and im about to release the swim suit skins for summer

[muted gale]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

Swimsuit Holden

[dire moth]

nico nana
Hoyan
Rengokutsu ( If celince )

[craggy perch]

i guess i need hoyan only. thx

[muted gale]

I did finally pull a 3/3 swift/time artisan which is nice

[dire moth]

nice

here i show u might

[muted gale]

Holy

[brazen sage]

Dope piece

[muted gale]

Holden eating good with a swift time weave artisan

[craggy perch]

did u guys shared teams for nico hoyan rangetsu?

[dire moth]

yeah i just afking now i just need a fury furyedge and keeneye

[dire moth]

Nico Nico

Valerian
Lily
SSania
Fangus

Hoyan

Lily
Fangus
Obol
SSania

Or

Lily
Obol
SSania

[muted gale]

Ye I feel dumb doing hell nico when I could just be doing hell4 terror runs but meh, I need shells

Here for a long time so it’s all good

[dire moth]

Rengokutsu u can go

Celince
Fangus
Valerian
SSania

or

Celince
SSania
Valerian
Lily

[muted gale]

Oop a second swift/time shell has hit the towers

[craggy perch]

i did it with that team ty

[shell dew]

celine is a must?

[vast skiff]

Pls explain Celince build and rotation

[dire moth]

celince swiftrush timeweaver she can silence rengokutsu immunity passive to dot

^^^ allows u to dot nuke him

[vast skiff]

So Celince can allow DoT on DoT immune enemies?

Can she do the same on Aurora?

[dire moth]

celince has a Debuff called forgetfullness this makes it to where the boss has no passive

and nah i dont think it silences will field but it does silence the boss passive itself

will field is a boss mechanic

but rengo immunity dot comes from passive

[vast skiff]

Owh

So SSania can clear anything except Aurora?

[dire moth]

thats why shes a must if u want to run dot on Rengo she also does dot

pretty much yeah

[vast skiff]

When will I get SSania? Sigh

[dire moth]

she just requires high investment for Doki Doki

[vast skiff]

They gave me these shit in the last 120 pulls...

[solemn quest]

SSANIA CAME HOME YAY

[vast skiff]

I hope this happens to you

[dire moth]

me to

gimmie

[solemn quest]

[dire moth]

i actually have been summoning a lot of mia lately

at 3 rn

[hexed harness]

ily ssania

[feral ocean]

I rolled another account for her... Got Lily & Freya with her though

I have SSania and Xiada... I suppose it would be best to invest in Xiada for DokiDoki & SSania for the rest, but resources are so scarce 😬

[feral ocean]

@dire moth for Grim Pursuits do we just run SSania, Fangus, Lily, Freya?

[dire moth]

for most yeah

[woven sequoia]

Hmmm

I just got mia

[woven sequoia]

I think u sent one of ur mias my way

[dire moth]

[woven sequoia]

Is she good for terror...

[dire moth]

Can be yeah

I laying down rn

[woven sequoia]

I planned on using holden shania fangus lily ve

Vale

[gleaming plover]

i still need diting for something?

[woven sequoia]

Diting op

[dire moth]

Nah

[gleaming plover]

yeah, i like him, but now with ssania i dont think i'll use him anymore

prob will reset him

[languid prairie]

Here is my roster

Would people recommend investing my perfect lattices in Sania for the weekend and I can get her to max skill one I have my other lattices in kloss skill 3 and messiah skill 3 I don’t have a Lilly though. This is so I can clear infernos

[dire moth]

If u want to yeah go ahead but we won’t force u here

I must rest

[languid prairie]

Do you think it is worth it as not sure I can progress unless they end up nerfing the content lol

[dire moth]

yeah it fine but youll need lily anyways

Not really but helps

[maiden fossil]

made the switch early and it's really nice even with sania's s1 only at 3 and fangus' s2 only at 4. 2 starred terror nightmare 3 when I wasn't able to clear it before. Not able to auto yet but should be able to soon. (not a response to the above question. Just sharing my experience)

[languid prairie]

Think I’m going to do it tomorrow as soon as 2x starts

[dire moth]

Alr well imma be asleep

[languid prairie]

Sleep well thanks for the help

With no Lilly do I need obol as well or not ?

[woven sequoia]

Won't u still need for aurora

[dire moth]

I must sleep cause got out ER last night n body needs rest

[gleaming plover]

true, probably for ember trek too

cant reset him xD

[woven sequoia]

Rest well!

[dire moth]

can leave questions here or dm and I’ll respond to them when I wake up in few hours

[languid prairie]

Can someone else tell me if fungus needs to be max skilled?

[trail oracle]

S2>S1 max

Can also lvl 3 S3 if you want 100% debuff on ult but optional

[dense meadow]

hell yeah i got celince and thought it was a dud pull

[trail oracle]

Does anyone have a team for ssania without lily and fangus?

[dense meadow]

for what content

also

can i do dokidoki hell 4 and inferno with xiada if i dont have lily? or should i target rilmocha?

[trail oracle]

Terror and shells mainly

[dense meadow]

what level?

ssania-fangus-rin-freja-val

ssania-diting-valerian-kloss/freja-holden

theres loads to play with

for shells, thats dependant on which one man

[trail oracle]

Atleast hell3-4 on terro

My friend's having a hard time, he's okay not having lily but he's like 500 pulls in and no fangus

[dense meadow]

i dont have a lily, and can clear terror 4

if no fangus, try diting holden valerian freya ssania

shells will matter, 2 artisans, etc

look up CUlapse on youtube he makes team guides with no Lily and Ssania

Culapse*

like im farming rengokutsu and hoyan ez thanks to his strategies

[trail oracle]

Aight g thanks

[iron meteor]

Who do you guys have as your other pocket dps for content that you can make DoT work like the other over game modes

[solid hearth]

Question. Do i need to max s1 and s3 for fangus?

[rustic moth]

diting of course

[rustic moth]

s2 I believe

[wraith flare]

Can anyone suggest me what my team should be? 🥲

For inferno terror

[dire moth]

where all the other units at

[wraith flare]

Umm wait

I have all sr

Hmmm... Should have just ss my ssr and said I have all sr xD

[dire moth]

Turandot RilMocha Valerian Dinah Rin <<<< if youre not using the SSania u have

[wraith flare]

No no I'm using ssania

Already max s1

Just not leveled yet xD

Wanted to ask for a DOT team

[dire moth]

SSania Valerian Fangus ( heinrich is fine since u have him built but go for turandot later on cheaper on the latices and has ER ) rin sine no lily

turandot + Rin = Turandot does dispell 120% turnbar push back while rin does S3 to taunt the first round than second round cast Def up on turandot so when rin uses S2 she gives defense up again but the shield she gives is buffed due to the Previous Def up buff

^^^ valerian just there to keep alive

[wraith flare]

Heinrich idm he just uses level which I have an abundance of rn xD

Hmm...

Rin and and turandot on a speedy eff acc build then?

Do any of them need skillups?

Rn only fangus has s2 maxed

Which skills should I raise next? Among rin, turandot or maybe s1 fangus?

[dire moth]

rin unbreaking 12 bramble till u can go for a 12-8-6

fangus S2>S1

Rin S2

Turandot S2

[wraith flare]

Priority top to bottom?

[dire moth]

can do S3 on rin and turandot

but those are more bonus

Fangus first

Turandot rin up 2 u which 1 comes first

turandot is dispeller

for inferno

[wraith flare]

Noted, thank youuu

[wraith flare]

Do I need eff acc om either rin or turrandot? How many main stats should I use

[dire moth]

eff on turan

rin just run 1 eff other two def

turandot wants decent eff can run 3 or 2

[wraith flare]

Noted! Thank youu

[iron meteor]

This is the way

[wraith basalt]

@dire moth what is the best dot team if you got all the character?

@dire moth on the flex spot

[glossy zinc]

finally, a option that doesnt require amazing SSR luck

[dire moth]

turandot is there but guide isn’t updated for turandot or Holden

[dire moth]

Valerian Holden fangus SSania and lily if u have all units u can actually run turandot over Holden since easier to max and has a higher TB debuff it’s just worse for auto since the dispel on Holden is his ult

[dire moth]

Most my F2P units are almost build just waiting on more shadow prints and this upcoming 2x event

[glossy zinc]

Thats okay, i have SSania and i like her, but ive only heard SSR team comps for her until now

[dire moth]

So I’ll start doing comp record videos for ppl pretty soon

[woeful grotto]

How you build holden for the non lily team again ?

[dire moth]

Used 6* Andrew for hell 4 but now I’m starting to get shells I can use on him just need modules

[dire moth]

Speed no latice required

[woeful grotto]

Bet bet

[dire moth]

2 effect acc 1 crit

This way his dispel can crit and have 100%

But if it doesn’t u have 100% effec acc

Just a 9/10 so have to be unlucky to miss

[glossy zinc]

[somber island]

its a tripple hit too

hard to miss

[woeful grotto]

I see I see

[dire moth]

hard to miss but still need it to land

all 3 hits if u outspeed terror

[woeful grotto]

Feel like his s3 takes forever to cd 😔

[dire moth]

2 if u don’t

[somber island]

60 runs of inferno hadnt missed 1

tho i regret farming terrormaton

[dire moth]

I’ll be the first

[somber island]

feel like aurora

just

has more usage

[woeful grotto]

What shell yall use for him ?

[somber island]

artison

def + def

[dire moth]

fury edge momentum kinda ass unless u max stacking 6 debuff maintains

Fury edge good

Momentum could use some work

[somber island]

mementem doki moment

[dire moth]

[somber island]

belike i just need that extra bit to os

[dire moth]

I think if I want momentum I’ll use doki doki

[somber island]

disappoints

[dire moth]

Just cause u can target unit buff with doki doki

[hexed harness]

1k stamina on hell 4 autobattle or inferno manual?

[dire moth]

Inferno can get 3 module drops

Not like 3 traits

But 3 separate modules

[somber island]

more gear

and fury edge

[dire moth]

so if u lucky u get 6

[somber island]

which is best dps mod

[dire moth]

should take the don’t dm me out of your name

[somber island]

i d farm doki tho

[dire moth]

so I can send u a fish

[somber island]

you only need like 1 dps set on a team

but need like

4 support sets

[dire moth]

[hexed harness]

i need to get cracked dps set first

bc i'm planning to do inferno with massiah

[somber island]

right

[stone reef]

hi this build can clear uhm in dokidoki also or rilmocha?

[dire moth]

use her sub dps there

[safe patrol]

Hi! I can't seem to clear terror Hell 4 in auto rn. Haven't tried manualling it yet but I can clear Hell 3 in auto with what I have rn. 100% wr on h3. I'm running slow sania and tanky valerian and the rest are using 12pc swiftrush with decent skill investments to lily S1 SSania S1 Fangus S1&S2

[dire moth]

rilmocha or hoyan

swift rush good in inferno sucks in hell

[dire moth]

^^^^^

[safe patrol]

do you have any recommendations for them with what I should replace them with a better matrix/character? I have holden but idk how to put him in with my current roster

[stone reef]

so in terrormaton.. shall i just reset khloros? god i thought s.sania is for like aurora or sumtin T_T

kinda invested in khloros

[dire moth]

yeah u can reset khloros unless u want him for union bosses and phantom

[stone reef]

thanks so much! ❤️

[half sequoia]

Help with terror Hell 3?

I Have ssania though

[wraith flare]

Btw this should work in inferno right? XD

And who should I 6 stars first among those?

[safe patrol]

Thank you for the suggestion! @dire moth replaced fangus' gears with bramble and another defense.

[raw vessel]

im assuming this was made before holden release since he isnt mentioned?

[dire moth]

np

[dire moth]

yes

[dire moth]

diting falls off in hell without khloros

[dire moth]

yeah

[raw vessel]

So holden would be in the flex slot

[dire moth]

SSania and valerian than fangus

holden wouldnt be a flex he would be in the dispeller slot

[wraith flare]

Hmm... Might go for valerian first since she's used almost everywhere

[dire moth]

so if u have all units your 3 cores would be Valerian SSania Fangus

than you have the dispeller slot for inferno

than you have the flex +1

so if u use holden it would look like

SSania Valerian Fangus Holden + 1

^^^^ if no lily

[raw vessel]

+1 could be lily?

[dire moth]

nah if no lily its a +1 slot

which in turn u would run rin turandot

beyotin

etc

[raw vessel]

i have all the units and leveled up holden s3 to lvl 3

[dire moth]

yeah than go SSania Lily Valerian Fangus holden

the dispeller slot is the +1 slot because in hell below u dont need a dispeller

once in inferno the +1 becomes lily slot while the original flex becomes Dispeller

[raw vessel]

Oh gotcha, I just prepared for the inferno team right away xd

[dire moth]

yeah holden just takes up the original flex since it becomes your dispeller slot

so holden turandot mia etc

[raw vessel]

would you use bramble or swift on him? and shell

[dire moth]

Swift for Inferno

u can go defensive on him

but means u want to run him with slow comp not speed cycle

and u can use artian

Bramble + Swiftrush matrix roll

[raw vessel]

I would be going with this comp, im not sure if its slow or speed cycle

[dire moth]

its both

can run either

speed cycle u just have at least 3 speed sets ready

[raw vessel]

my valerian would be my slowest

[dire moth]

if not 4

[raw vessel]

oh damn

nah only my lily is really fast

[dire moth]

more consistent if your stuff isnt maxed

[raw vessel]

yeah i guess thats for when u 6 star everything

[dire moth]

but tank is also consistent if stuff is maxed

also pretty sure u can 1 cycle if tank

but my units arent maxed same 4 sets

[raw vessel]

gotcha, appreciate it!

[tiny elm]

Would this plus 1 be better for a Freya or Beyontin?

[dire moth]

beyo

[tiny elm]

Really? Well good thing I have her S2 maxed thanks!

[grand arrow]

Do you need to manual for Beyo or still fine on auto? I just pulled SSania today but no Lily, been slowly flicking through the messages here.

Just in time for 2x so want to start building up the DoT

[merry violet]

Man idk what sets my fangus should run

What do i choose between strive swift bramble for no lily comp

My ssania is on def bramble even eithout lily because i cant get enough speed gear with acc

[dire moth]

should be fine on hell idk about inferno

[dire moth]

strive bramble or bramble unbreak

swift is if u specifically have a lily or u have some1 else like beyo

[ocean raven]

Speed better than tanky in inferno?

[dire moth]

depends on units

lily or beyo speed

if not tank

but if we talking maxed out gear minmaxed sets

than tanky

minmaxed shell is like this artian

[ocean raven]

Im looking at veron, fangus, lily, SSania, vale

[dire moth]

only way speed becomes better on min maxed is if u have 3 swift rush strive eatherplague gigabytes

^^^^ very specific to be exact

[ocean raven]

Hmm cause i cant get the stack up before my team gets wipe

[dire moth]

veronica should be fine

[merry violet]

I mean i have beyontin but idk if i should run her, currently this is my team
Ssania unbreak bramb
Fangus strive bramb
Rin unbreak bramb
Val full HP
Freya strive swift (with def mainstats)

[dire moth]

just do S2 first than S3 since the Def up wont be applied unless u can steal immunity

[dire moth]

i say beyo cause freya falls off in inferno

[merry violet]

Alrights

[dire moth]

great in hell 4 below

just sucks in inferno

[merry violet]

Hows beyontin in hell?

[dire moth]

still good

[merry violet]

And also about the lattices

Where does beyo need lattices

And apart from ssania s1 does her s2 or s3 want any

Doesnt seem like they help much idk

[cloud mist]

Who should Lily boost with s2?

[shadow panther]

sania

[cerulean shoal]

you only use S1 until S3 detonate the dots (if you are sure it will kill the boss)

and you use S2 when you want +1 extend time on dots

[merry violet]

I mean i know how to play the team lol

Im asking if its worth putting in more lattices anywhere apart from s1

Idk if i should upgrade her s2 or s3

[cinder cargo]

s2 lvl 4

[open temple]

cant clear hell 3 consistently with f2p team😭

nvm i needed more eff acc on fangus

[dire moth]

dw i get this a lot than realize ppl just havent invested in their units

u must stay faithful

[pure phoenix]

@dire moth Should I put Mia/Celince instead of hellkid? He’s squishy on hell 4

[serene cypress]

511 - Ssania
551 - Fangus
this is their skill prio right?

[somber island]

555 for fangus, if you cant, 155

[inland terrace]

I maxed my fangus s3 too so I get it used more often but yeah

Its in the guide

[serene cypress]

155 not 551?

[inland terrace]

S3 is the least important of the 3

[somber island]

speed down is the most important

dot is fine, it goes from 20 to 35 which still very little

[inland terrace]

No. You have other team mates for that

[somber island]

who

[inland terrace]

Freya for team manipulation or Holden S2

But my point is that the guide literally tells you s3 for Fangus is not needed

[somber island]

so dont get speed down

[pure phoenix]

Celince or Mia?

[inland terrace]

Mia

[somber island]

i mean

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if you want, i have the auto 100% guide if you need

[inland terrace]

Okay sorry, correction, is needed but less prio than s1 and s2

[inland terrace]

Oh i have seen your guides. I just haven't got the gear to do that yet

I'm still struggling to do Hell III terror on auto and Hell I on Doki consistently

[somber island]

oh hell 3 you dont need holden or anything

i would run 2 cr pushers instead

frankly before inferno holden is not needed

nor is any speed down

the damage doesnt amp that much

its only in inferno they boss suddently almost double his damage that you need those small things lol

[pure phoenix]

Inferno and hell 4 is kinda build different

And that niconana inferno is insane with that cc

[dire moth]

yeah

[dire moth]

5-5-1

[pure phoenix]

When will new L/D release?

[serene cypress]

anyways

my team will be

holden fangus ssania valerian chiaki

[dire moth]

swap for turandot if u can need dispeller in inferno

or holden mia

or heinrich

[somber island]

mia scama

[serene cypress]

oh

i have holden

wait i alrdy mentioned Holden

[somber island]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-nod-fran-isekai-fast-gif-7087891165681916231

holden good

[serene cypress]

wuts inferno terror spd

[somber island]

264 on dispel

rest doesnt matter

[serene cypress]

ok so 264 on holden huh

[somber island]

yes

if not holden then even the 264 doesnt matter

[serene cypress]

it's fine to not have 264 spd?

[somber island]

if you dont care about the initial attackdown

and res down

which are really important in surviving

but if you have giga bulk gear you can dont care about it

its just that if you cant survive that well, having the attack down before boss attack is mega good

[serene cypress]

i c

I'll just take it then

i have valerian anyway

[somber island]

im struggling to tank it with valerian lol

but before inferno its fine

[serene cypress]

use 2 artisan

[somber island]

i use 3

i can do 100% wr inferno run just fine

but im just saying lol

[serene cypress]

wut is ur team

[meager chasm]

can this team run on inferno? or should i remove heinrich? and swap dorothy

[quick mantle]

u need lily

but try marvell on the 5th slot remove dat red girl

[velvet prairie]

Rin is such a unique choice

[quick mantle]

he needs some speed manipulation tho

[meager chasm]

i got kloss

[quick mantle]

he cant outspeed inferno wit dat

[meager chasm]

i don't have lily either

[quick mantle]

u can test

[meager chasm]

I'm following this guide

f2p comp

but idk if heinrich can change anything

[serene cypress]

ye just run a fast marvel using codex here

[quick mantle]

u can test that comp u sent