SSania guide

[simple copper]

still a major WIP unfortunately 💀 it's really tough to get the proper matrix effect

[willow knot]

I'm looking at the guide and it says Amber so I'm asking which one is the better one

[inland terrace]

What causes Lily to assign Holden as the twin instead of SSania?

In auto

[willow knot]

Attack stat, she based on who got the most atk stat

[inland terrace]

Weird... cuz my Sania has the biggest

[trail oracle]

Try leveling them up first, you can imprint them later if you don't awaken

[willow knot]

I'm not sure then I might be wrong but I'm quite sure that's how it works

[trail oracle]

Who's your fifth unit?

[inland terrace]

Wait... Holden has the lowest atk... surely she wouldn't bring up the char with the lowest atk would she?

[simple copper]

currently im just trying out marvell

thinking of slotting in my massiah to hit more extra damage but, not sure

[willow knot]

Did you add them up the base and the additional?

[trail oracle]

Most top clears use jackal for ssania, it's really a mix honestly, some use artisan, codex and even gigabyte

[inland terrace]

Yes

@willow knot

My Holden has 1199 atk and my Ssania has neatly 1500

[trail oracle]

Maybe you need a 2nd artisan for survivability

Use it on val so it doesn't overlap with your first artisan proc

That's what I did

[covert stream]

Hey guys, is chiaki (echo) or kloss a good alternative for dorothy the wisher? I don't have freya and not too pumped too invest in dorothy skills too

[elder fern]

Finally after maxing sania skill 1 i can do run consistently, and without lili

[craggy perch]

are u using fungus?

[coral dune]

Can ssania be used for doki?

[elder fern]

Yess

[craggy perch]

probably no

she stacks her dots on terror with doing follow atk by lily

[simple copper]

Can I see your character builds

[elder fern]

Valer, freya with artisan, sania with black flag, fungus w gigabyte and marvel with jackal guard

[opaque otter]

Can i see your doki2 team bro

[elder fern]

Suree

[paper basin]

Question about SSania, I got her but I’m lvl 15 is she worth working on early?

[opaque otter]

Dang dont have massiah

[paper basin]

Or should I wait until I have enough skill ups?

[cinder cargo]

she does work but she'd be slower than using other units for a while

her strengths lies in cycling multiple turns over the enemies ,and applying lots of dots and doubling them

you can't cycle a lot of stuff early on since no speed gear

[dense meadow]

how much effect acc is needed for niconana inferno?

[devout stone]

Does ssania need eff acc?

[boreal briar]

How do you expect her to land the DoTs then?

[opaque otter]

Hell 4 but manual tho need more better gears and shells

[frozen panther]

This good shell ?

[trail oracle]

Yes

[trail oracle]

Yes

[slow drift]

So freya is better than kloss for Ssania?

[frozen panther]

Thank you 🙏

[trail oracle]

Yes, dot doesnt need def break

[tulip lark]

Feels good man

[trail oracle]

Why they still drop golds

[tulip lark]

And double matrice

Dropped only two for the last 2 days lol

[trail oracle]

Shouldve made them drop reds then 2/3 matrices

Less RNG

[tulip lark]

These 2 lol

[trail oracle]

[frozen panther]

Wow congratulations

[trail oracle]

Wish we can still imprint awakened shells, feels such a waste awakening 3/2 matrices shells early game

[tulip lark]

It's fine the speed increase is worth it imo

[solid hearth]

Just got my shadow sania. I dont know where to start in building her hehe. What skill to max? And what shells should i use for her

Since i dont have latice atm. Is she still good without any skill ups

[tulip lark]

Depends the level of your dungeon

[solid hearth]

Hell 3 im lvl 41

[tulip lark]

Some people pass hell 3 without it so I trust them if they say so

Mine is 5 5 5 and I had 3 dupes

But I somehow disagree when people say S2 is the prio with my guildmate we believe S1 is more a prio

And having codex of magic on ling luo makes it safer for the S3 spam of her

[fervent lintel]

@dire moth Can you repost this. I can't get to the top to read the guide with 7k comments 🫣

[dense meadow]

there is an arrow to jump to top

[fervent lintel]

I don't have that. Interesting

[steel nova]

u can also have a look via pinned message

eturnal alrd pinned the ssania guide

[spare birch]

What is the best alternative for freya in this team comp?

will kloss do it?

[dense meadow]

you think mio would be a replace for marvel?

[frozen panther]

Damn lvl 40

[shell dew]

what how did u do this what is ur team

[tulip lark]

Lily Sania Valerian Ling luo

[wraith flare]

terror hell 4 without lily is ok easy to achieve but inferno without lily ? nightmare

[calm totem]

i dont think its possible to DoT team inferno without Lily

[wraith flare]

i succeded once but was very lucky

[calm totem]

maybe if Fangus land bazillions of dots and assist attacks on everything

[wraith flare]

yea exactly

[dire moth]

4 pings and ust woke up

[cinder cargo]

@dire moth Halloween and time weaver proc makes a 3 turn cd available again right

[dire moth]

yeah this is incase youre well trying to get the extra turns in for being 2 slow

[cinder cargo]

Ty will be maxing lily s2

[swift robin]

@dire moth If I use a comp of Lily Ssania valerian mio and fangus can it auto H4

[dire moth]

should be able 2

[swift robin]

Alright thanks, Ill give it a try

Sorry i meant mia instead of mio

[dire moth]

should still be fine

[swift robin]

Ty!

[young kite]

i don't have lily, is it still good to build ssania?

[boreal briar]

@dire moth Did you clear Ember Trek btw?

[dire moth]

nah not yet

[dire moth]

still fine

[boreal briar]

Do you have any idea how to clear Astarte?

[tame lichen]

went ahead and decided to build SSania to then realise i recycled all my artisans

[dire moth]

idk not there yet

[autumn copper]

im afraid time weaver will make her too fragile.

SSania i mean

[dense meadow]

Sania sensei what team do I use for Nico inferno? No Lily or Doro

[dire moth]

gigabyte codex diamond heart replace her set later on 2 fangus if u get good speed sets

[dire moth]

yes

[tame lichen]

nvm thanks for the RNG

literally last run of energy today

[autumn copper]

i have an artisan 3 timeweaver 3 bramble. Its not worth to 12 8 right. I read on the guide that late game this is the way to go, can u explain me why, im a bit confused

[dire moth]

12-8 is good this is ccycling for 2 without maxing S2

[autumn copper]

got it, ty. I dont want to make 2 builds, focusing on 1 to stick it forever kkkk

[dire moth]

^^^^ as in 8 less laticce

[steep mantle]

How needed is Freya? I can pull her but is Dorthy good enough? I attached an image for your reference

[dire moth]

run 12-12 if u can than

[dire moth]

replace for valerian in inferno

[autumn copper]

no bramble, 12 unb 12 time weave

[steep mantle]

I dont mind dropping tickets on the freya banner, but I just want to know if it’ll make my life easier with her on the team haha

[dire moth]

timeweave swiftrush

[steep mantle]

gotcha ty ❤️

[autumn copper]

i love freya. Shes usefull in everything. Helped me alot

[dire moth]

easier earlier but worse in inferno

[tame lichen]

this is just from todays farming for SSania and Fangus need to get fangus s1 last skill up, would like some brief opinion on these

[weary willow]

Would it be worth to reset my lily skill ups to get Sania s1 to s5? My lily is currently 5-2-1 and sania is 3-1-1

[left shuttle]

Pull her. It's better than pulling a bench in perm.

[ocean raven]

Will tank build still work on inferno terror? Or are they too slow?

[steep mantle]

Literally got her on my first pull, u the goat 😭

praying good things come yall way

[tame lichen]

[young kite]

rosa is my main dps now, is it wise to reset her to build s.sania up?

[frozen panther]

@dire moth Cecl have dot ?

[dire moth]

better on shells

[frozen panther]

??

[shell dew]

u got one for hoyan too?

[autumn copper]

its Mia better than valerian

for terror i mean

[boreal briar]

If you read the guide

You would know that Mia is used for dispel

But she's replaceable with Holden

Just have to drop Freya

[autumn copper]

My question was a direct comparison, i know what she does. I have both

i just dont know witch to use

in a best place cenario

[boreal briar]

I'm confused, if you know what she does then you know she's not replaceable with Valerian if you want to run Inferno

Because Valerian does not dispel

[autumn copper]

both holden and mia

[boreal briar]

But your question was is Mia better than Valerian

[left shuttle]

40 pulls in for Holden but I already have a Mia from guaranteed.😔😔

[boreal briar]

They are in the same slot but different purpose

If you need a dispel you cannot replace Mia with Valerian

[dire moth]

Mia is not better than Vale holden has multi dispel mia has single dispel + Pushback

^^^^ but u need dispel for inferno

[boreal briar]

So if you need a dispel and you only have Mia then you have to take Mia

[autumn copper]

so holden valerian its a better combo

[dire moth]

yeah

if no holden u use turandot

[boreal briar]

Wouldn't Mia be better than Turandot tho

[dire moth]

Turandot is basically holden

[boreal briar]

Yea but Turandot dispel is on S2

[dire moth]

120% turn meter push back 4 dispell

[boreal briar]

Which means if you're trying to auto you have to wait a full rotation eitherways

[lofty crane]

in inferno does the boss start with immunity or something

[dire moth]

yes

[lofty crane]

oh ook

[boreal briar]

Also Mia dispels twice

2 hits

Each 50% chance 1 buff

[dire moth]

o

maybe i just dont have effect hit on her thats y

[boreal briar]

So yes I think Mia is better

[autumn copper]

i really wanna clear inferno on the double STAMINA event, thats why im so in doubt.

[boreal briar]

Mia also heals based on self HP + reduce team skill cooldown

[dire moth]

double mats not stam

[autumn copper]

i have 70 of these

[boreal briar]

Which is useful to refresh Valerian so your team doesn't wipe

[autumn copper]

waiting in

[boreal briar]

Why would you want double stamina event

You get less drops

[autumn copper]

heheeh

[autumn copper]

yea

[boreal briar]

So what do you think?

[autumn copper]

SSania will save me

[boreal briar]

If Mia dispels twice will she be better than Turandot?

She also shortens debuff which is a pseudo cleanse

[coral dune]

is holden a must for inferno or can i cope with my freya?

[boreal briar]

Which inferno?

[coral dune]

Terror

[boreal briar]

I mean we just said why you need Holden right above

Can your Freya dispel?

[dire moth]

just use dispell

[boreal briar]

Freya is fine but you still will need a dispel somewhere

[dire moth]

this ducky

[dire moth]

@coral dune

[coral dune]

Tyy

[shell dew]

hey I cant find a inferno hoyan auto team, do u have one?

[tame lichen]

does Heinrich also work as premium instead of Holden?

[vagrant ivy]

Hi are there any lily ssania teams that can auto all content?

Or some* if not most?

[visual frost]

wellspring set is okay on valerian or actually preffered?

[noble elk]

Timeweave swift ok for Holden?

[visual frost]

if i run well spring on valerian which shell would suit with her

[dense meadow]

@dire moth what team do i use for nico inferno? i dont have lily or doro, thanks sensei

[dire moth]

use extra TB buff dorothy wisher or speed downers << dispelling speed buff also good

[dense meadow]

i have kloss and mio would that work?

[dire moth]

not kloss

mio sure

but definitely not kloss

[dense meadow]

hahaha fair enoguh

[dense meadow]

oh shit okay, first time going into it

hmm, maybe dinah?

@dire moth any thoughts on Asshu? for any content?

[dire moth]

good just dont got him built

[dense meadow]

damna Asshu got hands on rengokutsu

[trail mauve]

there is a cap for Effect accuracy?

[left shuttle]

Damn who is that green guy?

Level 48 on my main. I only have 3k gems so can't refresh stam.

Can't wait to get to 50.

[dense meadow]

Asshu the R goat

[left shuttle]

Asshu I was not familiar with your game.

[dense meadow]

you have to manual with him and you need to buy the Arena blue lattices for his S2

[slender owl]

how much eff acc do I need for Inferno?

[digital steppe]

Does anyone have auto inferno yet

For terror

[iron meteor]

Should I invest in SSania over my Diting? I can reset lattice for fangus. Only in nightmare stages now

[lofty crane]

you'll fly through terramatron and grim pursuits if u do

i think its worth if u have stuff for the other two bosses

[iron meteor]

My only DPS is Diting and SSania... nothing for dokidoki

[lofty crane]

im in the same boat as you then :')

[iron meteor]

Still have my selector, so thinking Ril, Xiada, Rosa

[steep orchid]

Do you have kloss

[iron meteor]

No kloss either...

[lofty crane]

its just ril or kloss for selector

[steep orchid]

I would highly rec kloss

[lofty crane]

unless u get her alr

[steep orchid]

You can clear doki with ssania itll just take a little bit of adj

[iron meteor]

Ill finish the 14 day SSR(today) so i was going to decide on the selector after that

So probably should reset my Diting so i can lattice fangus? I have lily with s1 lv 5.

[lofty crane]

u can do doki but u have to swap a ton of stuff

[iron meteor]

Or can Diting clear dokidoki? I think he is good into terror and aurora

[dense meadow]

Asshu the fking goat

[languid prairie]

Can someone tell me the dot team without Lilly as have everyone else apart from her

[dense meadow]

for what content

[shell dew]

wait really inferno?

[dire moth]

150 is good

200 if u feel like it

[dense meadow]

so inferno different from hell?

what about for hell?

[dire moth]

100-120

[iron meteor]

You think I should Invest SSania over Diting?

[languid prairie]

Inferno shell dungeons and inferno terra

[languid prairie]

Any thoughts about a team for the infernos with no Lilly willing to build anyone

[steep orchid]

Not for inferno doki, the important thing is to start doing hell 4 which is doable with ssania

[dense meadow]

i need a team with ssania for hell 4, can you help me?

[steep orchid]

What units you working with?

[dense meadow]

i dont have lily or doro the wisher

[steep orchid]

I didnt use them either
My team was Ssania, Fangus, Freya, Valerian, Holden

[dense meadow]

hmm i dont have holden yet, should i target summon? or is there a replacement

[steep orchid]

Do you have mia?

[dense meadow]

i dont 😦

[steep orchid]

Then it might be worth for you, how far away is your 14 day random ssr?

[dense meadow]

already pulled it, got my 2nd kloss dupe

[steep orchid]

Damn

[bronze sparrow]

What can I run if I don't have a Lily

[dense meadow]

yeah its rough

[steep orchid]

Then I think you should just bc holden provides atk down, turn meter lower, dispel

[dire moth]

what units u got can run plenty

[steep orchid]

I was able to do a speed cycle with my team so my rotation was Freya at 234 speed
Holden at 226
Fangus at 210
Ssania at 208
Valerian on artisan

[bitter island]

What module do u want on Holden?

[dire moth]

Swiftrush if running cycle

[bitter island]

Swift bramble? Or time?

[steep orchid]

When i cleared hell 4 for the first time my fangus only had s2 maxed
Ssania had s1 maxed
Valerian had s3 maxed

[languid prairie]

Can someone tell me the team for inferno hoyan without a lily

[dire moth]

Valerian Fangus SSania Beyotin Turandot <<<< heinrich cool but Turandot is basically SR Holden except with better TB Debuff

^^^^ this compensates for your resources perfect latices at least but still expensive on purple

[bronze sparrow]

what sets for them?

[dire moth]

Valerian Cure wellspring 12-12 Artian
SSania Swiftrush timeweaver 12-12 Gigabyte
TuranDot Swiftrush bramble 12-8 Alicorn
Fangus Unbreaking bramble 12-8 Artian
Beyotin Swiftrush timeweaver 12-12 Gigabyte

[bronze sparrow]

Ty

[dire moth]

this is if u want consistent inferno since speed cycle is more consistent early than tank

and running tank SSania through hell lets u swap her entire modules onto fangus later

without having to invest out of his usual 8-8 stride bramble

u can swap Fangus later on to lighthouse to make him tank terrormatron

same with turandot

[bronze sparrow]

[languid prairie]

Is this the team for inferno terra?

[dire moth]

S1 SSania
S2 beyotin if u can
S2 > S1 Fangus
S2 > S3 turandot <<<< S3 is bonus not required
Valerian S3 <<< very important

[dire moth]

if u got mainly F2P units yeah

[languid prairie]

Yeh have everyone I need apart from Lilly is it possible to do some of the shell dungeons without some of the animus as well

[dense meadow]

So is Holden like the Lily alternative?

[languid prairie]

I also have holden if he would work

[dire moth]

yes

[languid prairie]

Who would he replace?

[dire moth]

Turandot

[languid prairie]

Does he need skill ups?

[dense meadow]

@dire moth who do i use for nico inferno and ringoktsu hell? no lily, mia, holden or doro

[empty karma]

you're a legend for coming up with no-Lily friendly comps!

[dire moth]

just needs to be F2P friendly <<< i'll show case most the comps once my units are built but been splitting between units cause ppl also want doki doki

otherwise all my red units would be built rn

but split off to build some green units

to prep doki doki

[candid yew]

are the preferred shell skills mentioned, prioritized in that order?

[empty karma]

what's Beyontin's main role in this comp? i don't have her so trying to figure out if someone like Doki would work if her main role is skill CD reduction?

[languid prairie]

lol I will try my Holden without skill ups

[dire moth]

dont need to skill up holden dw

just need him to dispell

[languid prairie]

I’ll assume that we have to manual not auto

[dire moth]

if u max invest auto

if u no invest manual

[languid prairie]

Is that max all sania skills?

[dire moth]

nah other units

[candid yew]

is the HP% really the one we would want the least on shells P1 or are they not in any order?

[dire moth]

if they make the skill order a thing for auto than its easier to auto

[dire moth]

HP% or HP Flat

for artian users use DEF Flat or DEF %

no real difference until min maxing

[languid prairie]

Also without a beyotin is there a replacement

[dire moth]

yeah any TB Booster

Or Extra Turn

Or can run both turandot and holden

[languid prairie]

Mio perfect then?

[dire moth]

mio is fine but cant cc

[languid prairie]

Is Freya’s turn meter boost too low?

[dire moth]

yeah

its good in hell

and without it being maxed its to low

thats y i didnt include her into hell

[languid prairie]

So I would have to use mio would she need to be skilled?

Also if fangus is maxed and shadow sania s1 is maxed could I auto?

[tame lichen]

does Heinrich bring anything good to a SSania team for anythin ?

[bitter island]

Damn @dire moth Someone beat ur niconana clear

[visual frost]

@dire moth for valerian if i want to make a slow build with well spring which 12 / 12 or 12/ 8 set should i go for

[dense meadow]

how can I search in this thread?

[languid prairie]

Why does turandot need alicorn

Also who you using for the inferno shell dungeons as can’t find a team without a Lilly

[trail oracle]

Is law of silence the stealth of e7?

[muted gale]

It’s crazy how low investment it takes to hit h3

H4 takes some tankiness but h3 is free

I’m only level 38 lmao, just cruising along

[tame lichen]

i need to test out my ssania in terror now

that went well

[left shuttle]

Maybe your Lily is too slow?

[tame lichen]

she needs to move before boss i assume ?

[left shuttle]

Yes cause letting your sSania have like 2 more turns before boss nukes you is what's gonna save you.

Also you're not targeting the left hand, are you? No need for that for dot.

[patent delta]

hey trying to build an inferno terror clear. ive had a brief look at suggested lilyless comps within here as well as thru recent clears. would like to know the best comp i can make with my current investments.
ssania - 511
fangus - 551
valerian - 115
beyontin - 141
freya - 511
holden - 111 (can bring s1 or s3 to 5)

[left shuttle]

I've seen a comp without a lily in yt.

[somber island]

#1384714748712583168

[patent delta]

thanks a lot! ill check this out

[tame lichen]

wait how fast does Lily need to be

[cinder cargo]

fast

[somber island]

250 is about 80% wr

270 you get to 100%

[primal ravine]

Is doki setup with sania still working?

[tame lichen]

oh dang

i need some insane sub stats

[primal ravine]

On inferno

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496

I have a vid sonewhere in there too

No idea bout doki

I don't have her

[primal ravine]

I mean on doki inferno difficulty

[somber island]

Oh

No that doesnt

[tame lichen]

is there appropriate speed tuning for terror with Lily?

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496

As fast as possible

[tame lichen]

Freya or any replacement for Holden ?

[dire moth]

i saw they scored 24 seconds as well but since theres is newer it puts them at top

[dire moth]

only shell that provides matrix

so now i got to score 24 or hit 23

[languid prairie]

I’m going to see how far I can get this weekend and if I can’t get much further I will build the sania team

[dire moth]

[bitter island]

[dense meadow]

are you all still max stamina refreshing?

hell yeah got holden first pull 🙂

[tame lichen]

does Heinrich work instead of Holden for the dispel or does he bring something else additionatlly ?

[dense meadow]

holden does -100% turn meter which lets you put in a full round of cycle on boss

dot is often decided on being like, perfect KO or you were 1 turn too late from kill it seems

[tame lichen]

hecc so it doesnt work out that well without hoden for inferno?

[dense meadow]

holden is good for inferno, no?

[tame lichen]

without*

[dense meadow]

there were working inferno teams before. holden came out

so not a must

[tame lichen]

Guess I need to figure it out then

[slate rain]

how much acc need for niconana inferno to have consistent dot, i feel get more resis in dot lately

[left shuttle]

Omg look at our girl moving up

[cinder cargo]

is celine op hmm

[left shuttle]

She's good in doki cause of revelation.

[maiden fossil]

probably already been asked but idk how to search in this type of channel, how much investment/how early would it be possible to switch to Ssania? I have the full team aside from obol, but i'm only level 18 and lacking a lot of speed gear due to not having a doki dps. just trying to figure out if it would be possible/what to do. If there's a minimum I could get to which i could then work on, especially since i won't be able to level any skills yet.

[cinder cargo]

level 18? player level?

too early, your lian will be doing much more damage than a dot team for a while

[maiden fossil]

What about for doki? i'm just missing a dps for that so trying to find something.

[cinder cargo]

grey can handle doki with dps gear early on

he kind of falls off around hell 3 doki

[maiden fossil]

Okay i'll try that. When should i switch then? for both bosses and shells

[cinder cargo]

you can do like a hybrid lian + fangus early on and start skilling up fangus

but i think optimally you'd want to make the dot team around 35 after farming some nico shells

but i've seen people use dot team for terrormaton earlier on

[maiden fossil]

okay, thank you. just so lost and most things i've seen only show fully built dot teams but not really how early you can do it.

[cinder cargo]

you can do it now, but it's gonna be slower than just playing normally

the strength of the comp is be able to cycle multiple rounds of dots onto the enemy and then multiplying it with s2

not possible without correct shells / speed / skillups

[patent pivot]

anyone has a consistent auto setup for inferno niconana? need some help

mine is very inconsistent

[outer scarab]

can i make a good dot team?

[hybrid canopy]

does anyone know if ssania proccing bramble set effect apply a dot?

[inland terrace]

It does. Its the build you use in end game with unbreakable

As her follow up attack can trigger Fangus too

[left shuttle]

Wait y'all building her on artisan?

Or amber?

[hybrid canopy]

sweet thanks

[inland terrace]

Check the guide for which shells to use

[rustic moth]

lowest rank hell 4

[muted gale]

Turns out hell 4 is just a lily speed check

[inland terrace]

Im still on Nightmare II or Hell I depending on if its Terror or Doki.

Doki being still in Nightmare

[rustic moth]

[lusty elk]

How...

[rustic moth]

bramble.

[lusty elk]

Can you share your builds?

I cant evwn beat hell 3

[rustic moth]

sure

it's entirely rng tho

[lusty elk]

Thanks a lot

[inland terrace]

What has bramble got to do with.... wait. Lily on bramble, where she basic attacks, which triggers Ssania, which can trigger Fangus?

[tardy flume]

is obol good for inferno

[rustic moth]

nah just ssania being a demon

[muted gale]

Oh idk how you’re clearing with that acc

[inland terrace]

Then what has bramble and Lily got to do with each other?

[rustic moth]

a dream.

[muted gale]

At least consistently lmao

[rustic moth]

lily's just doing her standard business of being fast and spamming s2 -> s1 spam
ssania is praying to god she procs both dot and doesn't get resisted + bramble itself

[muted gale]

Gotta be a Hail Mary of a clear, but nice job

[ocean raven]

How much eff acc to effciently run for shells and terror?

[muted gale]

150

[lusty elk]

Is this doki or terror?

[ocean raven]

Ah ok im close

[rustic moth]

terror

[muted gale]

At least close, I think my Fangus is like 144 but it’s fine

Ssania is 150+

[ocean raven]

SS 144, Fangus 137 atm

[muted gale]

Nice!

[ocean raven]

got resisted like mad in nico LOL

time to time of course, if not its easy win

[muted gale]

Nico is so rude

I think I saw somewhere you need 230ish lily speed to fit in the extra attacks with Ssania but it’s buried in this thread

[safe patrol]

Hi! I just finished reading the guide and was wondering if it's okay to start building around SSania. I'm currently ACC LV35 and i just started farming on niconana hell for the better shells. Ssania comp will work against Hell1-4 terror right? I don't have diting and I really like dot as well.

[ocean raven]

i have a 264 lily

[safe patrol]

Currently working on ssania then I'll build fangus as well. Looking for people's opinion about this. Any criticism would help! Thank you!

[ocean raven]

but im currently running slow fangus and ssania so...

Terror H4 is consistent tho

[muted gale]

Exactly! All you need really

Just need characters tanky enough that two don’t die at the same time

Let Val carry, and dots do their thing

[rustic moth]

yeah it works great, biggest concerns are having enough spd and enough bulk, so long you abuse bramble procs and val's s3 you can bruteforce your way, for consistency it just comes with having better gear/shells raised

[safe patrol]

I'll take note of that. Thank you!

[opaque otter]

@rustic moth Is that auto H4?

[inland terrace]

Can someone please explain to me why Lily keeps twin tricking my Holden instead of my Ssania?

[rustic moth]

god no

[autumn copper]

lily tricks the highest atk value

[safe patrol]

how much effect accuracy do we need for ssania and fangus in general?

[inland terrace]

Take a look at my picture @autumn copper

[autumn copper]

oh...

[inland terrace]

Wait...

I think i kn9w

Its Vale

[autumn copper]

valerian buffs atk

[inland terrace]

Her bubble thing gives an atk buff on first turn

[autumn copper]

since holden go first

[inland terrace]

Which is making him higher attack

Yes

F

[autumn copper]

he get it first

LUL

[inland terrace]

I need to get her atk even higher or his lower

Damn it

[autumn copper]

put a lv1 helmet

to test

[left shuttle]

Got a dupe from 1 pull.🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

[ocean raven]

Does eff acc affect strip chance? haha

[ebon willow]

Can I use ssania (no lily) for terra hell 1-4?

[somber island]

#1384714748712583168

its autoable too at around 60% wr

[ebon willow]

Thanks let me try to build based on ur team

[dire moth]

I am at work my fellow cult member incase I haven’t been responding to pings

[left shuttle]

At lvl 50 and niconana hell done!

[neon garden]

Now, Inferno

[left shuttle]

Damn inferno my gear can't do it. Need more speed lmao. I thought I could auto it before event. Smh.

[delicate token]

What shell Ssania 8-8 bramble unbreakable should use

[left shuttle]

I really thought I could do inferno when I've been farming shells all week.😗😗

[ruby fossil]

alicorn helps a lot with nico inferno

[boreal briar]

For those use SSania for shell inferno farm

Do yall use Marvell or Mio

[somber island]

artison

or gigabyte

both fine

[somber island]

neither

you want fangus lily

or fangus freyta

[boreal briar]

That's not what everyone is using tho

At least when I check recent clears

Everyone is using Mio/Marvel without a healer

[somber island]

for?

[boreal briar]

So Lily Mio/Marvell Fangus/Obon SSania

For Inferno shell farm

[somber island]

which

[boreal briar]

Niconana and Hoyan

Both

[somber island]

interesting

if you have enough speed to cycle

i guess

[boreal briar]

I've been refreshing to make sure that it's not some random

And it's all these comps

[somber island]

i use lingluo with 99% ish

so

[boreal briar]

I just wonder whether Mio or Marvell is better

[somber island]

my gut tells me that gets cced and you die

[boreal briar]

You don't

There's no CC for Hoyan or Nana

[somber island]

nana has a cc

for inferno

[boreal briar]

She does?

[somber island]

yes

[boreal briar]

I never encountered it in my run

[somber island]

with some ridiculus acc too

[ocean raven]

Cant auto nana for me, sadge

[somber island]

i find lingluo to be more reliable

[boreal briar]

What team do you recommend to auto then?

[somber island]

but you can try and inform us

its always worth trying

[boreal briar]

That's the thing

I only have enough prowess mats for either one

So I can't decide who to take

[boreal briar]

But which team do you use to auto Nana and Hoyan

I need Hoyan more tbh

[somber island]

i use classic dot

ssania fangus lily lingluo

[boreal briar]

Can I see your Lingluo build?

It feels like my Lingluo can't sustain

[inland terrace]

Why no Vale? Wouldn't Vale be stronger than Ling?

[boreal briar]

Vale doesn't cleanse I guess

If you can't move you can't apply DoT

[left shuttle]

Just to check, I can't auto inferno with a Mia correct?

[somber island]

no

mia cant aut

auto

bc she wont dispel first turn

[boreal briar]

Do you have a video for your run?

[left shuttle]

Alright. Hoyan it is. Need to pity at 40 more and I have 20.

[boreal briar]

Cause I can't seem to get a clear with Lingluo

I just die before I even apply any DoTs

[somber island]

nana?

or hoyan

[boreal briar]

Hoyan

I can clear Nana fine

[left shuttle]

Game really wants me to pity.

[boreal briar]

For Hoyan my turn order goes lily > ssani who gets countered to death > fangus who gets countered to death

I have about 25k HP

[somber island]

you dont use lingluo for hoyan

you use valerian

also you need codex

[boreal briar]

Codex on who?

[somber island]

ssania

[boreal briar]

Hmm

Why?

[somber island]

so you get extra turn before detonate

[boreal briar]

I don't quite understand

[somber island]

its the same reason for inferno ssania use codex

whats the normal ssania turn order

[boreal briar]

I'm following the guide above

So I'm using Amber

[somber island]

amber doesnt buy you enough time

so basically

ssania turn is

s2 then s3

with codex its

s2 s2 s3

which means

[boreal briar]

So the guide is wrong?

[somber island]

you get a extra turn to stack dot with lily s1

guide is fine

guide is not for inferno which does less damage

and not as updated

guide is general pve

[boreal briar]

I think then the guide should preface that

Cause I went to build an amber

Which is now a waste I don't need it

[somber island]

i didnt make the guide lol

ssania made it long time ago

before holden

and before inferno

which shifted meta a lot

ember isnt a waste

you can use ember in terrormaton inferno

or terrormaton in general

hoyan tho does too much damage for ember

[boreal briar]

Amber

[somber island]

right

[boreal briar]

Hoyan uses Amber?

[somber island]

huh

no

hoyan boss

[boreal briar]

I guess the alternative is Oboron

[somber island]

right to stack more dot

[boreal briar]

And he stuns

So mobs can't counter

[somber island]

you still probably need codex

right

else ssania detonates too fast

[boreal briar]

Yea only 1 codex need if it's oboron runs

I checked

Sania can use whichever shell still

Shells don't have double drop during the 2x right

Lemme check

[somber island]

codex too big tbh

to missout

[boreal briar]

Yea so I can ignore for now

I am already building one

[somber island]

nice

[boreal briar]

But no exp

I just finished amber cause I was following the guide

[somber island]

amber will have use

[boreal briar]

I was assuming you can amber for shell farm too cause it worked for niconana

[somber island]

for terror

inferno terror

its just not as fast

and as reliable sometimes

i personally like artison or codex

[boreal briar]

Yea but my artisan doesn't drop timerweaver tho

Which matrixes does SSania use if it's codex

[somber island]

swift strive

[boreal briar]

Not timeweaver?

Or bramble

[somber island]

i dont think you can get those

[boreal briar]

You're right

Hmm

That would mean I need a new set of gear for her tho

[somber island]

bloodbath doesnt sound bad too

[boreal briar]

[somber island]

but idk if you farm those

i have my kloss on codex with swift bloodbath lol

[boreal briar]

I'm still mining doki inferno so

[foggy matrix]

Is holden really suit for terror? And why?
I saw some replay and they are use holden

[boreal briar]

I mean

Have you read Holden's kit

And read Inferno terrors mechanic

Inferno terror has immunity

And what does Holden have on his S3?

Dispel

Also Holden is counter element so free 10%(?) less damage taken, 100% push back on S2

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496

[hybrid lodge]

managed to clear niconana inferno with ssania-fangus-lily-valerian and very bad shells/modules; my question is- so all inferno clears are manual due to a.i. using ssania's S3 first instead of stacking dots.

is it really "worth"? i mean, in terms of gear farming yes, but imagine doing "grind stages" manually 20++ per day?

[somber island]

my auto inferno terror team

#1384714748712583168

without lily

the first one is about 99% wr ish

without lily more like 60%

[somber island]

you can auto it

with lingluo

80% wr ish

[boreal briar]

So I tested Marvell @somber island It's actually pretty reliable in Niconana

So far 20 runs 17 passes

I mean if game says resist then you fucked but ya know

The failure runs was like if you don't land any DoTs

But I have 170% eff acc alr I don't how I can not miss the dots if you know what I mean

[foggy matrix]

So 100% acc still not enough??
That build for holden only for this terror right?

How about use swift brumble for s.sania?

[hybrid lodge]

thanks! it worked, just tried it out with ssania-lily-valerian-ling

[left shuttle]

I can't auto rengo/last shell stage bc my ssania procs too late the second time.

I cleared but in manual.

[stiff sapphire]

Is this works in doki2 / any mythic shells?

I cant search in mobile

[daring shard]

what do i do if i dont have fangus? cry?

[neon garden]

Yes...

[daring shard]

[dense meadow]

whats yr rengo team?

[left shuttle]

Lily/ssania fangus and Val

[dense meadow]

does it work manual?

this my rengo team, but its not auto

ssania-fangus-asshu-val

[left shuttle]

Yes. Bc the boss has many dots on him but my ssania can't detonate since the skill is on cd. He would have been finished had my ssania just gotten to do her aoe/he moves but the minions got me killed.

[dense meadow]

on cd? are you detonating too early?

oh wait its auto

maybe she needs more HP DEF stats

[left shuttle]

My lily will force ssania to detonate in auto bc of the speed.

[tame lichen]

could i get some feedback on my DoT team and what stats to improve ? currently working on 6 star lily for more speed

[somber island]

yes for terror and aurora, no 100% acc not enough the boss have base 160 or 180 i think, which is why without holden you need more acc, swift brumble sounds fine if you do the without codex one, with codex you dont really want ssania to be fast

[somber island]

sounds pretty pog lol, i guess marvell just make it so you do it faster

[tame lichen]

\o/ managed hell 4 manual

[somber island]

i like the protection

[foggy matrix]

Aurora? Doesn't that boss imune debuff?

[somber island]

you need to dispell it, then you can apply debuffs for 2 turns

until she gets immunity back up

[foggy matrix]

I have holden but still lack of acc stats:v

[somber island]

ya thats the rough part, you kinda need a crit rate module main too so you only get 120 from the other two

[foggy matrix]

And modules

[somber island]

18 from set

which means you need 22 acc from else where

while having 264 speed

and worst part is

[foggy matrix]

If like that, can we use DoT for aurora ??

[somber island]

shell only rolls acc in middle, which is also speed spot

[somber island]

no you dont have enough turns, 2 turns now enough

its more for stuff like dinah

to dbreak and stuff

[foggy matrix]

So need holden on terror and aurora?

[somber island]

aurora holden is a strat, people still testing

terror is yes

inferno only tho

before inferno it doesnt matter, boss doesnt have immunity

no need for dispel

[foggy matrix]

I know maybe it will be out of topic on this channel😅
Any recommend lineup for aurora?
Massiah, lily, kloss, freya, valerian but i know freya and kloss will be the matter cause have disadvantage

[somber island]

so i personally

use diting

i cant do inferno aurora yet

which is diting freya lily lingluo and valerian

autos at about 90% wr

[boreal briar]

Doesnt work for Hoyan tho

[stable fiber]

Is 70 pots enough for 2x or should I overcap stam

https://tenor.com/view/cat-think-meme-jgmm-cat-think-meme-ragebait-gif-14788872422707786751

[boreal briar]

Need Obol or whatever the blue old mans name is

[somber island]

codex is kinda necessary

i c

[boreal briar]

You need codex on Obol

But not SSania

I checked the runs its was auto

[somber island]

interesting

so double stun

i c

[boreal briar]

Yea

Honestly Hoyan isnt scary if you have something to CC the mobs

[stuck nymph]

for auto inferno terror, for sania, still better unbreak bramble right?

[somber island]

ya problem is the counter

[boreal briar]

Theres also a fucking 280 speed Mio running the normal DPS team for Hoyan

Auto as well

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496 idk about best but it works for me

the s2 cc lol

[boreal briar]

Yea

First turn push all back

Haste up with jackal

CC the mobs before they counter

Lily runs slow so you dont intercept to get counter before Mio CCs

I say slow but its still 200 speed

[somber island]

sounds about right lol

[stuck nymph]

mio shining in the right hand

[boreal briar]

Mio needs both S2 and S3 maxed tho

I dont have the budget for it otherwise I would run it

I can only max S3

[foggy matrix]

Still dont have diting😭
I want him too but still_-

[stuck nymph]

can i ask team for doki2 inferno in here 😂

[boreal briar]

Btw can you send me a video of your Hoyan run on auto so I can see how to tune the spd @somber island

[somber island]

im trying to do it and failing

i changed my gear a bit to farm aurora

and now when i change back it stopped working

the pain of only having 6 sets of gear

now not even my aurora work

wtf

[boreal briar]

CLASSIC

FUCKING CLASSIC

EVERY SINGLE TIME

LET ME IMPROVE MY GEAR

Run fails

[somber island]

let me make sure aurora works first

i need this for mocha

[boreal briar]

Yea sure no problem

[somber island]

im so close to 1 shot

[dire moth]

time to sleep

[bitter island]

Whats better to lattice lily s2, ssania s2 or holden?

[somber island]

WHY ISNT IT WORKINg

fk

@boreal briar i fked up

not my diting die to aurora

somehow

even when valerian has more hp now

[boreal briar]

IKR

[boreal briar]

Holden what?

Sania S2 doesnt really help that much imo

Not more than the other two skills

[bitter island]

S3 him prob for inferno?

[bitter island]

Hm oki so its between lily s2 and holden s3?

[boreal briar]

Holden

It depends

If its only Inferno terror then no

[bitter island]

Huh

[boreal briar]

Wdym

[bitter island]

So lily s2?

[boreal briar]

Terror doesnt refresh his dispel

But Aurora does

If youre using him for Aurora you will need the shorter cooldown

[somber island]

lily really bad to tofu

s2 will take extra turn

which you could of s1

[boreal briar]

Yea but for Doki

[bitter island]

S1 max already

[boreal briar]

Its better

So it depends really

We dont have a fixed answer for you

[bitter island]

Oki so s2 lily if i want to focus doki and s3 holden if aurora

Ty

[boreal briar]

Yea but S2 Lily makes DoT a little worse

Cause less S1

[bitter island]

Oh

[boreal briar]

So like I said

It depends

Mine is maxed

Cause youre gonna be in the spd mines forever

[bitter island]

Rn im not using lily on doki lol

[boreal briar]

Shells are easier to get a usable drop but modules are pain

Then Holden

[bitter island]

[boreal briar]

For me Lily is key cause Im using Revelation Xiada

[bitter island]

Im using rilm

Wish i had kloss would be so much easier

[boreal briar]

I one shot both waves once they get slept in a good run

I dont use Kloss

I use Freya

[bitter island]

Same

[boreal briar]

You should use Lily tho

[bitter island]

I use kaz freya rilm val and gray

Who for lily tho

[lunar pasture]

Gray

[boreal briar]

If its was me

I would drop Gray

Mocha doesnt need the crit rate

[bitter island]

Rly i feel like i cant even oneshot without the def down

[boreal briar]

Are you one shotting in inferno?

[bitter island]

Havent even tried inferno lol

[boreal briar]

I couldnt do that with Rilm so I reset her and went for Xiada

[bitter island]

Ive only been farming shells

[boreal briar]

Cause Xiada can with revelation

[bitter island]

I dont have herrrr i wish i didd

[boreal briar]

Mobs too tanky and too much RNG at inferno

Its like 5k per hit extra on those guys

With revelation

[bitter island]

Lemme try inferno

[solid jetty]

Ffs can i somehow jump to the first message in this guide?

[bitter island]

Pinned

[slow drift]

Best team for ssania against niconana?

[boreal briar]

OMG

Good lord

[bitter island]

Damn wtf

[boreal briar]

Imma use that for Sania

Once I can farm Inferno Aurora I guess

[bitter island]

Should i reset the gray lol

[boreal briar]

No

You wait for next event

Cause unless you replace him and you know the comp works alr

No point

[bitter island]

Im gonna test if it works rn

With lily over gray

[boreal briar]

If it does you can reset yes

[bitter island]

Oki ty for the help lol

[boreal briar]

Heres my janky ass manual farm @somber island

And honestly @dire moth Brambles a fucking scam LMAO

Since Ive been manually

20 runs SSania countered once

She takes a total of 3 hits or so every run

[lunar pasture]

Reckon those builds would be good enough to do inferno niconana?

[boreal briar]

If you dont die yes

[lunar pasture]

It's Ssania S1 and Fangus S2 i need to max right?

[tame steeple]

yea

[lunar pasture]

Sweet, ty

Do i max Fangus S1 aswell?

[boreal briar]

Honestly

Yes

It made a difference for me

But it's not priority

[lunar pasture]

Alright, i'll do that

[boreal briar]

If you want to farm Hoyan go build Obol S3 instead

I tested him out and seems pretty good

[lunar pasture]

Isn't White Fang best for most dps?

[wraith flare]

can you freeze inferno terrormaton ?

[somber island]

I’m still

Not figuring my gear out

Something happened that my diting now dies

Idk what

[willow knot]

Veronika OR Holden for Terrormaton Inferno?

[boreal briar]

Holden

Why Veronica

It's not even that reliable

[willow knot]

She has soul ward and strip and I saw a lot of clear using her so I figured I would ask here

[swift robin]

Why does lily keep twin tricking fangus even tho my ssania has higher atk

[tame lichen]

clearly doesnt

[lunar pasture]

How rare is getting a shell with the 3rd bonus slot from niconana?

[somber island]

#1384401108663013496

[cinder cargo]

i'm having trouble clearing inferno hoyan

[cinder cargo]

it's like 1/20 for me

[lunar pasture]

So 1 every 20 shells, man that's ass, and i'm guessing it's even more rare to then have 3x3

[cinder cargo]

ofc it is xd

[strange temple]

what would be the best team i could run for SSania rn ?

[cinder cargo]

3rd bonus slot shells are guaranteed 3/3/3

[lunar pasture]

Ah that's something atleast

[somber island]

Ssania fangus golden valerian doki

[lunar pasture]

What eff res do i need to not get perma stunned?

[somber island]

It’s not good by any mean

But with correct gear and stat can do inferno for sure

Maybe even auto at like 30% wr ish

[strange temple]

im stuck on hard 💔

[somber island]

Ok so for Ssania

All you need to know is

You press s1 until boss has like 5 to 6 if the dot debuff

Then you press s2

Then s3

That’s it

[strange temple]

oki

[strange temple]

what gear should i slap on these ?

rn im running a defence one

[somber island]

Without Lily you need to run speed

[torn mango]

Don't remind me , I just did 10 runs on inferno and got 9 epic shells let alone having mythic with 3

[strange temple]

ohh oki

on everyone?

[somber island]

Bramble only if you have Lily

Everyone except valerian

But speed on valerian doesn’t hurt

Everyone

[boreal briar]

Bramble is a scam

Bite me

[somber island]

[boreal briar]

I did 24 runs

[somber island]

It’s Lily special so you don’t get crazy speed lol

[lunar pasture]

I've done 20 runs ish so far and gotten 1 mythic that was 1/3

[somber island]

Bro

[boreal briar]

Bramble procced once

ONCE

[muted gale]

so whats the reasoning behind doing hell 4 terror when doki drops the better gear

[somber island]

I couldn’t figure out why my aurora stoped working

[boreal briar]

So why was it?

[somber island]

So I changed my team

Now I run Holden

[strange temple]

and i should use effect acc stuff right?

[boreal briar]

Holden's fucking great

[somber island]

Nothing changed but nothing works

[boreal briar]

Because they drop different stuff?

[strange temple]

does it matter if i use purples or gold?

[boreal briar]

[somber island]

Changed unit now works

[boreal briar]

This is

[somber island]

I’m so dumb founded

[boreal briar]

Exactly what happened when I played E7

[somber island]

E7 better

[boreal briar]

Counter something

[somber island]

At least I can toggle skills

[boreal briar]

Counterside

Bro if I could toggle Lily S3 off

Wew

[muted gale]

I mean yeah but once you have Val and your Doki dps built is there even really a reason to run Terror

[boreal briar]

Yes so you can build more DPSes?

Doki's not the only content in game

And inferno drops the 6 pc set

You don't need to farm it too much but eventually you will

Only terror drops a 6pc DPS set I believe

[muted gale]

true true, just was curious thats all

cant believe swift/timeweave are the same boss tbh but i am not complaining

[torn mango]

Did you try ssania on doki ? @somber island

[strange temple]

would all 4 be speed ?

[lunar pasture]

It should be illegal that inferno can even drop epic shells...

[boreal briar]

I guess farming manually for the past 2hrs has been worth it

I'm on my 8th exp refresh

[lunar pasture]

I'm on my 3rd and i've gotten 3 mythics all being 1/3...

[boreal briar]

I wish you best of luck

[lunar pasture]

Thanks :p rilmocha can't use revelation can she?

[boreal briar]

Uh not really

[lunar pasture]

I'll just stick to farming Niconana then

[boreal briar]

Oh wait sorry

In AOE scenario it does

But the thing is it only works with her ult

[somber island]

You can’t

[somber island]

Yes