#SSania guide
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if i dont have lily should a build speed on ssania? or still tank?

i tried reading everything but its a lot
Tank is more friendly but no lily speed cycling still good
ok, but only if i can outspeed boss right?
ok thanks
is battlewill bramble viable on ssania and fangus?
@dire moth can you show me your setup for inferno terror, i don't have the speed but maybe i have enough tanky gear
could Kloss replace Lily?
No sorry
Lily - Fangus - SSania - Holden - Valerina
( my holden is suppose to have a speed set ) <<< but its equiped onto kloss rn
wait is ssania supposed to be speed and not defense/bramble?
weird i have similar in terms of stats, assuming holden is a little faster than lily
nah u can run defense bramble but my holden isnt maxed <<< module gear wise
when your units are maxed they would be tank still
but my holden is uh
yeah
does battlewill bramble work
or just full send defense
havent tried yet but thought about it and talked with another person few days ago about it
just dont have law of science yet with it
i see
or this guy 
Is general consensus for a more f2p team to go slow and tanky instead of trying to outspeed?
i'll take a look at some other shells that can maybe combi bramble timeweave
cuz battlewill is nonexistent on sustain shells
had to take out fangus and put valerian in, sometimes i fail but im mostly getting all the runs, fangus was getting oneshot turn 1 xD i guess 15k hp is shit haha

ig it's alicorn, artisan, amber or lighthouse for bramble timeweave
anything to change holden for ?
is this kind of ssania just wants the speed set and the rest are filler with gear with good enough speed stat?
f2p or not, stamina is capped, it's just if you rng good speed gear or good tank gear 
I dont understand what to choose
I dont really underdtand this event
@dire moth
ty for showing stats
key thing i changed was have lily and ssania on gigabyte
allowed me to cycle one more round of dots
Do u know my questions
I am stuck
it shows you which rewards are in the cards
choose what you want, can get fragments for SR/SSR pull or lattice fragment or crystals
you get all the rewards after clearing entire map
Is there a tier list what to choose?
I see so just choose the card u need most
i prioritize lattice because lattices hard to find, some people might want SR/SSR ticket to gamble

Let gooo baby
Is that diamondization
look at the circle things when you have a card selected, those are what u get
gamble for lily 
So many circles if u click this card
Where this bro I can't see
read what it says, 3 random boxes to crystal boxes
it says on the bottom left what it does
so 3 of those randomly become a crystal box
it upgrades ur boxes
This ?
yeah its ethernet
yes that's ethernet rally
you have to cleared the entire map to get rewards or you get nothing from that chest
Are these shells any different if you don’t have the lily? I’m running valerian SS fangus freya Holden rn
Damn i need ticket ssr
not really 
fixed my Hell IV auto by maxing SSanias S1 lol
@dire moth you mentioned beyontin being a good replacer for lily (S.sania,Fangus,Beyontin,Valerian,Holden) think maxing her s2 is needed?
maxing her S2 is good but beyotin is good in general if u choose to use
S.Sania God, how many ACC need?
I'm pretty lost when searching on discord... sorry
first hell 4 clear lmao
All hail ssania!!!
you need like 100 or 120 if boss has some resistance to it you dont need to go balls deep
TY!
hey I saw some people using ling instead of valerian but for terro u need valerian and for some shell teams u want ling? so u ned to build both?
lingluo? in inferno?
1 shot
iirc ling instead of lily
thanks so much @dire moth
is the comp okay or should can i optimize it somehow?
is the free SSR healer a good fit for terra?
well for shell farming dont u ned lingluo preferable?
didnt people use niconana inferno with lingluo?
oh wait nvm said instead of vale, misread
Just pulled her but I have no lily. Can she still do inferno auto without her?
btw I saw people talking about how hard inferno actually is. dungeon and shell. are they gonna make it easier?

my voodoo ball says this
Give my a Lily banner.
that would be kind of funny
rip ppl who rerolled if that happens
if they released a lily banner, then everyone sets up a ssania team and then an inferno nerf happens at the end of the month and then people with diting teams start speed clearing
i can see how this plays out
Why? It's okay they can save gems for next banners.
@dire moth this my hell 4 comp, is it okay or should i switch someone out? it's not too consistent
no this is fine tbh show gear
sure thing boss, 1 sec
and shells / passive
can i ask btw, when should i be detonating with SSania S3?
22 stacks if u want to kill at 80% technically 21
but use this formula to calculate your dot
4* Amount of Dot stacks = Damage %
22 stacks?? my god ibarely ever have like 10 up
So 4*20 dot stacks = 80% max health
if u having troubles stacking might be using S2 to early
@dire moth
S2 gets value the more seperate dot stacks u have
so 4 seperate
S2
8 dot stacks
10 Seperate
S2
20 Dot stacls
i seeeeee
^^^^^ if u have 2 u get 4 it doubles but if u have 1 stack its only like 2 value
seperate stacks = more value in S2
over like a stack thats ( 1 stack but 3 dot )
@dire moth
Fangus doesn’t need the speed then?
he wants to be ahead of ssania but like thats it i think?
yeah
Just cos he’s much slower than ur ssania
But u ideally want them all speedy?
change shadow guard off penguin from rin u can actually run double artian since comp will be slow
ohhhh wow okay. who should i give it to?
^^^ use penguin for now but when u get another good artian can replace it
when would i use the heckin penguin?
shadow guard wont work unless rin is your first turn
Obviously haven’t rerolled the shell yet cos broke. But is this on the right lines? @dire moth
Or maxed the modules 
change assult for dauntless or Gaze Calm is okay
and of course max the accension of shell
running speed is fine for now
Stat wise is he fine to try inferno when I sort the other units?
is gear okay? @dire moth
hes just missing some DEF cause unbreaking 8
but dw about it unless it really is killing the run from fangus dying quick
but he should be able to survive like 2-3 hits
run wellspring on valerine
How high should ssania effect acc should be?
if shes max S3 wellspring
a little over 100%
to compensate for initiate base enemy boss res
110 <<< 150
Thank you, I had her at 190% but im planning to put hp % on her
not swiftrush like the guide?
so it would be wellspring 12 and what 4?
I run wellspring and cure.
swiftrush is good its just for hell wellspring will keep u alive a bit longer with S3
^^^^ cause if valerine is your first turn with Max S3 u lose the benefit of max s3
cause youll recast the S3 first turn
right ofc
Halloween or Codex from Lily?
codex if spam S3 Halloween if spam S2
@golden pecan
Thx bro
Hey volt can u chat me
sure thing
@dire moth i havent used my target summon yet, should I get Rilmocha or are you cooking up a dokidok guide with Ssania?
yeah but its gonna be a bit due to limited amount of latices
and obviously Shadowprints
it needs a lot of lattices to work? @dire moth
What subs for my scuffed ssania shell? 🧐🧐
purple not gold
replace overclocking
hey I was thinking is it not smarter to put bramble + battlewil instead of bramble + unbreaking? to get more s1 procced
depends on proc rate its 1/5
but bramble is 1/4
if luck good yeah
if luck bad nah
battle will is 1/5
essentionaly making it a 1/20
and bramble?
oh wait with bramble its higher
as their might be more enemies attacking u?
only if terror hits
but why is bramble so good and battlewill not?
im not saying u cant build it
1/4 and 1/5
yeah which makes it a 1/20
well 1/20 to let both proc
but say u compare bramble unbreaking with bramble battlewill right
but is it good
because u are basically getting higher cahnce to proc
the chance of proccing atleast once is then 1 - 3/4 * 4/5 = 0.4
so the chance of proccing is now increased from 25 % to 40 %
but u sacrifice defense for it tho
but nobody used it before?
its up 2 u if u want to try it
but I feel like if nobody uses it, that must be an indication it is nto that great
maybe the 25% ddefense of unbreakable is too big of a sacrifice?
so its just 150 Accuracy, a bit of speed and be tanky, banger
And ofc let Holden/Lily zoom along
yup
Build is sweet, excited to make it after I finish DokiDoki team
by any chance can I ask 1 more question I am stuck for like 2 days now on hell 2 of dokidoki, I cant beat it and I was thinking to reset my massaiah
cant beat sharon hell either
Gonna have a tough time doing the dps in DokiDoki without Xiada or Rilmocha yeah
and the gear reqs for Xiada are higher
do u think I should just fully reset massaih for doki
I was told he si jack of all m,aster of none
so basically useless
for the rest kazuya kloss vlaerian lily I think they are fine to keep but if u got better suggestions?
build what u want
but what can u recommend me to do I am stuck
hes good in pvp and some pve
depends on units and how much u play to invest in units
also still got 5 days b4 the event
gonna last a whole week
I see, so what do u recommend me to do now, do u think going for rilmocha
is smart?
5 days means 5 days of shell farming 🥲
I got like 2 gigabyte 1 artisan and 1 white fang lvl 40
I mean sure but are they any good
I am not the one to give any insight lmao, I am just learning my b
sania is queen
I see
There’s a crap ton of info in this discord
Literally your question asked exactly hundreds of times
can u please help me what is the secret to beat hell 4, is it my gear is it my units? like where lies the problem
my exact question/
its just stars gear and ascended shells
i would assume beating hell 4 with Mess/Val/Lily/Kazuyo/Kloss will always be a gear diff
but 4 of them are on mythic shells alr
really
yeah but are they all maxed with correct passives
let me send picture
investment in dps <<<<
so my massaih is not invested enough?>:
now show gear
I'm honestly happy with this hell 4 auto
Could be more consistent if I max lily's S1
Still at lvl 3 coz I prioritized ssanias S1 to max
is this good?
so like do I change team or like what is the problem
the shells are maxed
only kazuya is misshing his gigabyte
have like a mix of everything 
is that the play here?
should be completing sets
the sets are incorreect?
8-8-6
oh I see
wah i prio? I got 3 lattices to use :D
skill 1
so the moddules are the problem?
but thats what I am trying to farm the modules
should have at least 2 set values on every1
You have a lot of work and resetting Messiah is probably the least of your worries atm
u dont need to farm the highest difficulty just do the highest one u can clear consistently
@dire moth do I need to max fangus s3 or should I leave it at lvl 3 for now?
otherwise youre never gonna clear
up 2 u
S3 not required just nice cause Speed down
Aight 
Just sticking to lvl 3 for the 100% proc
Off to farm GP now so I can max lily S1 
I see, I will farm a little bot of hell 1 I guess. can I ask 1 ore question tho what skill max do I need on all these 5 units maybe thats a proble mtoo
module sets are your issues u dont need to be min maxing modules for specific stats to have higher values if u get a complete set that gives u a bonus u grind on the highest stage that you can clear not the highest thats unlocked
and u need to be upgrading these if u already havent
not maxing
but at least as much as itll let u up to unlocking the first upgrade
^^^^ as in dont buy the upgrade but get them all
only upgrade the skills u need
22% acc on Kazyuo 👀
I see, btw is hell 4 autoable?
hell 4 is always autoable
only inferno isnt?
but if u dont grind your gear and try to jump into the highest unlock content
youre cooked
are you even hitting the Kazyuo sleep to remove def buffs lmao
ye I was just told never to farm module, so i followed that advice but now that I cant proceed I guess I farm some temporary modules as they get replaced anyways
just do on hard if u can
I can do hard 3 with massiah, but the energy tho 
ye its not that efficient tbh
but its only 10 runs
its alr i want to grind gear but getting module to level up prowess
I still haven't built a dedicated aurora team
I thought Aurora had great gear
I just slap my marvel gear to viper for the turn 1 strip
is febian even possible using ssania 😭 or do i just suck
i dun have freya 😞
so u think I just continue with massaiah?
hey guys, i have a question, for the Terror team
I just got SSania
Is 2 gold lattice on her first skill fine?
Then in Fangus do i really have to max his skills or whats the minimum requirement
Without lily, will freya work?
Thanks!
i think u just need to grind gear cause youre cooked if u dont
any unit can work but if u dont invest in them of course youre gonna think they suck
its fine and preferably max fangus
change freya to valerian in inferno but in hell lower shes better
Im kinda low on violet lattice as of the moment so...
S2 > S1
Can you show your supports
start doing your arena and union bosses everyday
yeah im trying to grind gear rn but its hard to know what i should be using or going for cos i dont have much unlocked 😞
oki 1 sec
Alright, ill get S2 maxed first
message was meant for other person
that I can absolutely do
invest in his S1 later on when u can
S3 just a bonus not required
@trail oracle
I have seen some teams with Obol
yea i will prio them since i kinda need them for A LOT of stages, just got SSania today after i built Kazuyo the reverie hence the lack of Purple lattice
yes specifically nico nana inferno
I think dokidoki could work if you don't have lily
my team im using rn is ssania fangus tsukiyo mi and kloss
doki doki is fine just need to know how her skills work
tsukiyo is fine for shell content destroyed in terror
i just need to be able to progress past hard 3 to farm the good stuff 😞
If cycling need more speed
I have no Lily, so for my terra, i'm using S.sania, Fangus, Freya, Valerian, Dorothy XD
Any idea idea replacement for Lily? 😦 I do have freya tho
@dire moth I somehow don’t get pass my 2nd turn. And I don’t know what I’m lacking. I switched gear around and feel helpless. Would you be able to advise in DM?
Beyotin
Just send
the file is too big to send here
Try file hosting
That’s fine just send what u need help on
yeah doing it now 🙂
I'm wondering when should I stop refreshing arena and save gems
I guess never since you always want to buy the lattices there
Who is the replacement for Freya?
whats the preferred shell for holden for the inferno terror run?
This is from DaBanba's guide for inferno
Do you know what I could change optimise or my gear is too low?
damn its really like that huh
Hell 1 just throwing it together lmao
gonna be fun to actually build
@dire moth how did the doki cook go lol
I don't need to continue pulling for Hoyan? I saw in clears they don't have Hoyan if there's Mia in terror inferno.
do u know if its worth to max massaih s3?
You can use her s2 to dispel
and passive for damage reduction
Though she might use her s3 before her s2
Holden will always start with s3 dispel which is the most important
its good if you dont have anyone else
he again, can do everything
anyone know if there is a decent guide out there for which modules are food yet
just bis for anything tho
besides just flat stat 1 liners
Ooooh so she's bad in auto?
uhh I do have rilmocha
you do need more investment in massiah for him to be at the levell or mocha diting
people said he is jack of all trade master of none
doesnt that mean he is never the BIS
so he is bad investment?
its a very arguable and personal choice
building only 1 dps for everything is good
did u do that too?
well u also have to build the ssania team dont think massaish will ever work
so would u say I reset massaih and investi n rilmocha?
not really, someone cleared all of modules with a massiah with 4 artison
wait really, and how about shell farming
it was one of the first few clears
that isi nsane btw
shells are ez
did he clear all shell with massaih too?
yes, but every run is like 4 minutes
on auto?
so if u max ssania s2 it will go like
lily s2 ->sania s2->lily s3->sania s2->lily s1->sania s3?
no idea about shell, but shells are a lot easier you probably dont need to worry about it
same thing if you dont max s2 but put codex on ssania
I thought inferno shells were harder then dungeon
no need to max, just use codex
lily also full reset, maxing s2 does a whole lot of nothing
but if you max s2 and put codex its just wasted or will lily ai be smart and not s3 if the twin is not on cd
for most part they are similar
Still haven't gotten a single drop of Bramble/Unbreakable Artisan 
wait so back to my question, should I try the massaih for every dungeon strategy?
I am fine with 4min per run if its on auto tho
i used massiah and/or diting for everything up until inferno
its slow and needs a lot of investment but he can do everything himself so its on you
4 minute a run is a bit too long for me personally
u can still use him in some inferno its just hard tho
but are we talking on auto?
im pretty sure
i would rather do 30 minute auto runs than 1 minute manual runs lol
ye I think auto run 4min are fine tbh
really?
ok i just went to test this and lily AI is stupid and will S3 even if twin has nothing to reset
wait so I am a bit confused what the best strategy is, currently there are 2 options I reset massaih for rilmocha or keep using rilmocha or use ssania
does anyone have a video + stats for any inferno autos (besides doki)
massiah+ssania covers it why do u want rilmocha
#1384401108663013496
well I was told rilmocha is easier then massaiah
massaih is master of none
on you, do you want 6 minute clears across the board with like 50% wr or 90% wr 1 minute farm on 1 module farm
uhh 50% wr is kinda low
i saw your thread but i wanna see a video of the team + i dont have so many artisans and kinda dont wanna farm and build them
wait is the 90% wr 1 min on manual/
both auto
oh definitly 90% wr 1 min
then rilmocha and ssania
rilmocha is like basically made for doki
so massaih is never used then right? cuz terrormaton I use ssania too
wait I do need a diting too right?
so I build 3 teams?
right
that feels like way mroe reousrces tho
personally im sticking to massiah cuz the run will only get faster and more stable as its replaced with inferno gear
how fast is it now/
and can u clear inferno :
but rilmocha is a lot easier to use on less
my issue rn is
i think i need to 6* doki
not doki
fking
KLOSS
wait so like u can auto inferno with massaiah./
not yet i just reached 50
you can literally go look at the teams and watch replays
and see their gear and setup btw
but can I see fi its on auto
u have to acctually watch the replay to see
I am in the replay now how do isee fi tis on auto
watch to see if the units are behaving on auto
wait so ur massaish can u use it everywhere?
like for example on ssania replays you can tell if its auto if lily or ssania uses their s1 instead of s2 or s3
cuz auto will never do that unless they r silenced
or if a unit held a cd somewhere then its manual
i cleared hell everything pre lvl 50 with massiah/diting and no lily
but I am using a lily tho, is that still the same
its better
I watched a massaih replay in inferno dokidoki btw I feel like its really incossitent so I think I should stick with ssania rilmocha
u did that too right?
thats good too
Guys I'm lvl 41. How fast can I get to 45 if I max refresh before event?
Each stamina = 1 xp
So if you buy 10 100's its 1k xp
I'm wondering if I should speed run to 45 before event or just save my stam.
I want to sit on my stam for a few days.
Are you pretty set in the account like auto terror/doki hell 4 pretty much ready to transition to hell
No I'm at hell 1 and 2 only.
I'll just be doing go outposts and inv if I can't really do it.💀💀
Where's my bramble/unbreakable 
Why does valerina run swifteush strive / timeweaver strive?
Why not wellspring and 4 piece cure
More if u want to do Invincr cycle <<< but yes 12-8 wellspring cure is good
Whats invinc cycle?
12-4 if u can’t run 12-8
Just gigabyte TB boosting turns with Timeweaver reset
Just run Wellspring Cure tho more safe
Ah ic
I’ll edit it later
Speedy valerian is difficult to pull off?
TB boosting is more if u want to speed run
Since u don’t have to worry about keeping hazy dream up u just spam invinc on a 1 turn CD
Ahh so speedy val would want to max s2 as well
Icic i dont think i have the speed gear to do all that yet
I'll build her HP
has anyone cleared terror inferno without lily?
Is Ssania auto friendly? Or do you have to manual it everytime?
sorry if this has already been discussed but having trouble searching here, any guides or people do inferno without lily? otherwise anyone with hell 4?
Yes there's already someone who managed to do it.
could i get some advice on my terror dot team for hell 3?
If you speed tune them right, you can auto it
i gave up and went for the reroll and managed to land Lily + SSania , i'm set for life now just need to lvl up to catch up lol
Hello, sorry for bother you @dire moth but Amber shell is the best for sania/fangus for all the content pve or just only for terrormaton?
Gratz!
Shells for Late game
SSania - Amber ( Bramble + TimeWeaver )
Fangus - Amber ( Bramble + Strive ) Sticking to alicorn is fine
I copy and paste from what he wrote above
yeah but this guide is for terrormaton, im asking if is the best for all the content
Aren't you gonna be frozen when amber procs?
I'm not sure youll have to check back when he get a minute from work. '
yeye, i want to be sure what is the best shell on general to farm it
This is what he uses for Niconana. U can look it up bc he #1 clear time lol
I think artisan is better for survivability than amber
ty
it's actually possible (pic not mine)
Wowm you've got a Xiada too.
for those who are curious with the gears
Yes
only unit i miss from my lv 50 acc is Kloss, hopefully she can come home later
I was struggling autoing hoyan hell and all I needed to do was switch Freya with Val. Smh.
anyone can help explain whats the difference for lily s2 maks or lvl 1
is there an artisan shell that contain bramble+unbreakable
yes
so which the better one for inferno? speed set or def set?
ah thank you for ur ans sir
u can probably use both for inferno i think he'll say
Which is better for 0 skillup SSania? 
This sania team is hard to use. Even manual I’m getting smacked. Is it a speed issue? Do I need to grind for better speed stats and effect res?
what can you replace Lily with for Inferno?
i think 0 skill is probably tthe tank one its more rrng :---)
if you want to run ssania in inferno without lily, you can do a tank like rin or use dorothy the wisher, the entire cycling of the dots is slower so you'd have to be very tanky while also having decent speed, so gear requirement is a lot higher
makes sense
a quick question, when running ssania on manual, should i start building stacks with s1 first then s2 before s3
or start fight with s2 then s1?
start s1, s2 extends all dots
if u see 5 seperate dots with 1 turn they all turn to 2 turns, so its generally better
when doing a dot team in shell bosses what would that comp look like? Without Lily ofc
Ty
I thought Obol got nerfed. That's interesting
for shadowflame (hell) i used diting. but i tested with dot comp i used kazuyo to sleep the minions
works fine
#1384714748712583168 without lily
im very sure you can auto with right rng
aka if the left hand target fangus
I have both Chiakis and Veronika. But if Rin/Dorothy is required, I can do that too
can use @somber island comp too, but the idea is the same - bulky to have more turns to spread dots
I don't have Holden, but I do have Mia & Heinrich
any of them fine?
for manual yes
you cant auto with mia
heinrich you can buy you need mega bulk
what should their stats look like
ah so same as Holden. Ty
If I can’t hit those stat requirement, I should probably keep farming mods or shells?
ya
those are min speed and eff to always out speed terror
yo would ssania be easier to run if auto was like in e7 where you can toggle skills off
oh wait but its all skills hm
yes
if thats the case
@somber island Would speed requirement but a little lower if you were to run Chiaki the Echo > Freya? Or does it have to be Freya
you would easily do it without lily
i did not test, use freya only, she not only purifies but also gives whole team defense buff, which is massive
ok ty
and if i'm unable to Timeweave all of my units, does Strive/Bramble work instead? With Effectiveness main
Has anyone made ssania team without lily for inferno terro?
sure but time weave is massive
.
is it still worth building diting if i alrd have dot team (without lily sadly)? 
yes, for aurora
Thanks
timeweave + swift sounds like a Hell III thing, since you're getting +3 per piece. I'm unable to do Hell III, so I'd have to skip that step
got it
actually i am thinking of building xiada for doki2 and since she is odd (blue), might as well just use her for aurora so i have a thought of building her instead of ditibg
diting*

i see… noted! 

you don't need timeweave, the idea is still there though, enough swift + tanky gear and you'd survive long enough to apply enough dots
ahh ok ty
Should i give my purple lattices to fangus s1 or start upgrading rin/dorothy's skills?
depends on content
before inferno you can probably get away with it
inferno no, you need all skills maxed
oh okay so i max fangus skills first?
I'm aiming for inferno
Let gooo baby win
Why amber and not jackal guard for ssania?
would veronika work in place of holden for inferno?
i would say so 
okayokay thanks!
Damn its so hard to reach 264 speed
extra turn of survival
yes, but your team needs to be faster and bulkier bc you dont get the s2 push back
i maxed holden s1 and got him 6 star just for it lol
ic
so is there a reason why my diting is 4 dupes, and valerian is 5 dupes, but I don't have a fungus yet?
Do we get a sr banner, I am just pulling for fungus. 5/6 LD units but not fungus? I'm frustrated
Can i use this comp for other stages?
What team were you using. I managed to 2 star it with Holden being the last survivor in a Ssania Fangus Holden Vale comp, but idk if Freya over Holden would be better. His dispel and solid dmg is amazing on top of the additional lowering attack and resistance on enemies.
Nvm. Once you can do multi battles and set up your targeting, main target boss and easy 3 star with my team. Time to just sit and fwrm Nico now
Shells
almost done with work so will be driving home soon
Yes
I feel like i can't swap to the bramble set on my SSania until I get much better gear that's faster. Still getting better shells so I can push Doki higher to then get better gear for Terror etc
You don't need ssania fast
In fact you want her slower
And use lily to drag her s1 instead
So you detonate and do big boom
Yeah but my issue is that I use her in comps where I can't fit Lily
cuz it's only 4 man
and I find that I need to use Holden over Lily for the survival
and the dispel, atk low and res low on his s3
I'm still working on getting good shells, so this may change when I have that
@dire moth can you help me with lineup terror inferno?
Fair enough, in that case maybe even switch fangus for lily
Lily is so big for ssania it's insane especially for auto
If not auto it's what ever
#1384401108663013496 use heinrich instead of holden
heinrich or vero? i try but my team die too fast
Yes you need more bulk without holden bc you don't get the attack down res down or the s2 push back
But it's what it is if you don't have holden
ok i will pull holden next ty
just got home
It's also important that your dispel have264 speed
So you can go before the big aoe if you holden and attack down hin
Otherwise doesn't matter much
🥰 ty for this room so helpful
Man got a dupe ssania no lily, But did pull a doki doki last night. Should I build her up in lily place and see how it performs?
imo yeah since u can go 12 12 but if u want to try a 12-8 thats fine
Also Halloween will keep trying to proc every turn until it procs right
Then it goes on a 3T CD
yeah
Cause originally I thought that
It has a chance of proccing once every 3 turns
That would mean it's pretty shit
Also another question why fast Valerian? @dire moth
wont be able to proc invince if u dont outspeed terror
^^^^ proccing invincibility early lets u abuse atk arm ai
Can you explain how does that work
Cause you won't be able to guarantee them hitting the invincibility target or will they always do that?
u invince your lowest hp
^^^^ so when terror attacks they wont die and he wont get a extra turn
but when the attack arm follows up
it always targets lowest hp
Can you pin this message. Had to scroll up forever to find this.
yeah but if youre gonna auto better be ready to invest in modules and units
already pinned
its okay
I'm just annoyed cause even for other games people just ask for pins without actually checking if there's pins
cant on mobile
Ohh nvm then 
They already are, I'm just farming shell exp for SSania now
Anyways f2p comp is SSania, Wisher Doro, Fangus and Rin?
i am potato
Can Wisher Doro AA or smth? Idk how she works.
pretty much
Soon™
And what are the premium alternatives for each of them?
wisher doro TB buffs with extra turn and CD reduct
Ya know maybe if you read the guide 
Lily For dorothy
Holden for rin
Your 5th unit + 1
i never thought id see some1 use this emote
crash fever player
But you're not in the server anymore 
Holden dispels valerine replaces
SSania+Lily+Fangus+Freya/Holden+Sustain?
got discontinued
in US
Any sustain works? 
Ig time to pull holden lol
Yea but the other game channels are still quite active, so is the JP channel but the game has gone to shit
So
Val can negate one shots from the boss twice
^^^^

Well 
When will I get her 
Ssania guide without ssania lol
well better pray

maybe ssania is next ld banner hmmm
They gave me a Holden dupe in standard 
Damn lucky
Not lucky smh
unless youre gonna max invest into hoyan

same 80 pity on limited 
Damn flex
All 3 from perma
but yeah unless u want to max invest into hoyan
My acc rn
80k with 50% damage reduction
Waiting to get the GSSR before pulling on targeted for Kloss
Wtf

Same
if u want to invest into her
But what's her build
she does 200k rn
I got too much on my plate
but we dont talk about that
After I can auto hell 4 doki, imma build hoyan or rosa
I'm just farming for keeneye for my ril
And waiting to farm revelation shell
Revelation not count?
count better for others revelation good for multi hit
Ril hits 3 times on her ult, that's 10% bonus dmg per hit 
Also count is pretty far
I could build rev at lvl 45
I'm like 90% at 44 with no stam 
Which boss was count again?
1,2 but ya
You could use it, maybe it's actually better than rev
When is it worth to start investing into ssania build?
But I'm min maxing at low level so I'll get the best of what I can 
Like should i skip her early
But that's if fully stacked right?
nope
havent even made it to full stacks yet
everything dies 2 quick
Hmm cause I'm just doing the Xiada revelation nonsense and nuking the entire wave
LOL
O btw what shell does holden want?
Can I see your Hoyan stats btw?
O nice ig ill just swap my sania artisian after i get amber
guys, what's the reason of building DoT team when SSania AI is so dumb on auto?
^^^^ shes better on keeneye i just have her on momentum rn cause some1 asked about it so decided to test dmg difference
How is it dumb?
You'd still get the same damage with the poisons tho
it's paintful especially in Hoyan when adds decide to hit you back
she dies shortly after boss attacks
What module sets does he want?
i'm still missing some skillups, but i'm dying earlier then i expected ...
That's why you bring amber
Got my lilys s1 maxed and fungus s2 maxed its time to live the dream
Maybe it's a survivability issue, do you have sustain?
Yes
some SSania + Fangus + Lily + Freya + Valerina (not maxed s3 yet)
Well you do need your val max s3
See your builds for your animuses
^
It prevents turn 1 deaths
If you doing inferno
You need everything
Also you can don't use SSania and tell me how it goes clearing Inferno

My units are pimped af and I still can't do inferno normally with a normal team
Try having sania and val on artisan
Send your builds here too
Does holden go unbreakable bramble?
It's easier to know if you have the stats required
Or swift bramble?
I could send you mine for reference
Like if you want to not level them and just cheap out for DoT doesn't really work
Need the tankiness
i'll max the skills
it sucks to farm GP now with 2x drop comming soon, but i guess i can do other units during event
Have you tried inferno?
auto?
It doesn't matter
I'm like lvl 44 
Like I said it in another thread
Yes
Farming anything is not a waste
Cause you need to farm it get ahead
If you farm earlier maybe you can farm the high difficulties during 2x cause you can clear more content
If don't farm you can't clear the higher stuff then you're getting less rewards anyways
Don't mind my val, it's on scrapped gear 
Ig use stam bottles last day lol
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This is me atm
That's no where near enough stats
For tankiness
You need to level everything
Fangus needs his s2 max
For ssania or lily?
from all of them, Fangus has s1 maxed and working on s2 atm
have tofu to max out SSania s1 but need GP
Yeah, just build those and farm shells
Fanugs needs S2 > S1 imo
Max your vals s3 too don't forgor
yeah, i did it the wrong order
have enough tofu for Val s3 too
just need GP
Also make sure your Ssania has the highest attack on your whole team, so lily focuses s2 on her
what would my inferno team look like for Niconana?
I dont have lily or doro wisher or mia
oh, ok ill try it out
are there any SR dot char we should build apart from fangus? Also if unfortunately not having fangus despite alrd like 650ish summons (my friend sadly
), is there any replacement for him? also i should remind him if there is any fangus rateup in anima limited summon in the future so he can save from now on 
he has lily and ssania alrd, but no fangus

so i suggest he should build diting first til fangus rateup banner is up 
Val
Oh dot uh
Obol ig but dosnet work for terror iirc
Obol dot for odd (blue) while hollow (green)?
ah yes, valerian too i should suggest him beside diting 
Btw does anyone know if law of silence has any use?
Ye he gives dot but terror is green so dosent work in terror

for hollow, we have asshu, the blue (R) one, but is it recommended or worth to build him just for dot team? 
guys how much speed needed to ouspeed terrormaton ?
264
ok thankssss

ive heard good things about Asshu but havent seen our SSania goat mention him


9 when i'm done with Lily S2
I started out with Lily+Doki, i got both to 5* and haven't used doki since lvl 15
so Lily's s2 is priority, not s1? 😮
S1 is prio, S2 is just a bonus
I've only used lattices for Lily and Rilmocha, haven't really needed anything else
then that's need a fix in the pinned post 😉
In fact, don't level s2, it will take up extra turn
I'm actually able to auto hell 1 with S.Sania - Beyontin (No lily)
Lily s2 is great but it makes speed tuning such a pain
I need 260+spd DEF breaker to go before my main DPSs 😄
with it maxed, it's will be even more difficult 😮
Overall you'll gain more dps with S2 maxed
yeah but when i Messiah goes with his s3 into non-broken targets, it's a huge waste
need to nerf my DPS speed since i think i use Lily everywhere
Unless you're planning on super long fights it shouldn't make that big a difference
this game as this state is a DPS race anyways
there are no good bruisers yet
The passive is already applied in first s2
Oh that could be yea, i only just got Ssania so idk much about dot comp
then scroll up or use pinned posts for early-late comps
hi I have khloros built, but I have a ssania sitting untouched and a lily so wondering if I just ditch him to make a ssania team for terror
Cus khloros and ditting is cool for h3 speed but I feel like it will be getting worse on the way to inferno
And also is Holden really needed?
there's an auto clear with khloros + diting for inferno
Ssania is fast but khloros works
Can i play SSania without lily ? especially in Nico Inferno and hoyan ? Any recommendations ?
i thought of Obol Codex + fangus valerian
Can you share what shells you are using?
271 Lily wtf
Lily - Gigabyte
Ssania - Artisan
Fangus - Alicorn
Val - Artisan
Tyty
You should see my enemies at RTA outspeeding my lily 
How many of the different lattices is required to make dot team again?
How do I get to the start of this post on mobile?
4 lattice for lily S1
4 lattice for ssania S1
8-10 lattice for fangus S2>S1>S3
4 lattice for val S3
Check pinned post and click it
Oh sweet then i have enough, pog
Tyvm
It brings me to some random message from the 15th instead to the very beginning showcasing the guide
You can click this
Thx
Don't know how you can get back to it tho or save my reply idk 
It's probbaly better to farm NicoNana Hell for a while until you can build decent shells huh
vs 75% clear on Hell 3 Doki lmao
Thats what im doing
Need a couple unbreakable/bramble and a couple swift/time and be happy
god damn pulled the wrong lily from the 14day ticket ..
Can some1 show me their inferno Niconana clear + builds?
Should I start farming for Codex for Ssania for inferno or is Amber still fine?
I'm lvl 44 so I can't help, need to wait for @dire moth to wake up 
But seeing recent teams, It's the same as hell mode
Ah okay, ty
is Lily randomly picking a unit to make dual attack with it?
i see she pulls my Freya more then SSania or Fangus 😮
She uses s2 on the unit with the highest attack
So make sure your ssania has the highest attack
but she pulls SSania or Fangus from time to time.
Making it random-ish
Need to read skill description.
So she suppose to pull unit with her buff?
Just make sure there's a big difference in attack, their attacks might be different when applied with atk buff from freya
damn there's 76 atk more on Freya ...
is anyone using Asshu anywhere? what team for rengokutsu without lily?
@dire moth can u pm me when u get the time pls xoxo
For the min maxing regarding the shell skills, do we really prioritize flat HP over everything or is the order not relevant?
GUYS i need help
im not clearing hell 3
and im not sure who to use for 5th slot since i don't have freya or holden
Can you show skill ups?
Looks good on the skill ups, and your eff acc is decent
What shells are you running?
Is Codex of Magic good for the team?



but than swap artian to valerian


my max hit is 100k
