SSania guide

[kind bear]

Freya good in dot team? Does her nightmare affect dot

[dire moth]

SSania Freya Fangus Helkid is good but can also use the beyotin u have built or doki doki <<< doki doki a bit harder to get right but is still good

^^^^ at least use one SR though if you need to save on some mats

[quiet cape]

ill prob use valerian bc i have her max dupes

[dire moth]

as SR require less module mats than SSR

yeah if u have valerian just use her

[dire moth]

it doesnt but shes good in terror due to the fact of S1 Turn Bar Up

u dont need to turnbar down cycle inferno since 60% res turandot is an except due to being able to do 120%

yes on stages and shell bosses they do have a base initiate res

eff acc - eff res = base stat value * skill flat value = % status chance

^^^^ 100% = 1 not 2x

this is to prevent over cap

[frozen panther]

Really rin

[dire moth]

red rin

[frozen panther]

Ok

[frozen panther]

@dire moth This team

And gear acc and speed all ?

[swift robin]

What right side gear to use for ssania?

[frozen panther]

Like his acc or speed

[swift robin]

For main stat, u cant get speed on main stats right

Triple acc? or some eff res

[frozen panther]

....

[frozen panther]

Really

[dire moth]

this is if you are running cycle

[stone river]

Is there a proper turn order I should follow for Freya valerian Ssania fangus lily team ?

[frozen panther]

That it

[swift robin]

Bro i aint asking if u can run speed im saying u cant roll speed as a main stat on ur right side gear, unless theres smth im not aware of

[frozen panther]

@dire moth About up team

[dire moth]

almost done with game

[dire moth]

yes that team is fine

speed set is if youre running cycler

[frozen panther]

Hmm cycler let see gear

[dire moth]

Cycler means youre running 4 speed sets that give at least 255 speed as this makes u faster than terrormatron

and i dont think a lot of ppl have that rn

[swift robin]

@dire moth Do you run triple eff acc for right side modules? Im going for the unbreakable bramble sets

[frozen panther]

Aurur

[dire moth]

2 effect hit unless u have mythic gaze passive 3

[frozen panther]

You kidding me 255 spd

[dire moth]

1 def% or 1hp

[swift robin]

Ok thanks!

[dire moth]

yes terror on inferno u are faster than him if u have at least 255 speed

hell is 233

[frozen panther]

Oh thx

All team speed

No way ok

Holder speed hmm k

[dire moth]

you can make all speed

but its just harder due to sub stat requirements

[frozen panther]

Alright boi

Wait

[frozen panther]

Sania tank gear hp or def

[dire moth]

bramble unbreaking

8-8 set early upgrade to a 12-8 later on if u can

[frozen panther]

Who pick hp and def

[frozen panther]

Ok thx 🙏

[dire moth]

SSania fangus rin you build tanky

prevents u from having to roll god tier sub stats

u can do tanky on holden but make sure hes faster than others

and than Freya will be your fastest so she can give def buff

[warped tinsel]

@dire moth What do we build them on if it’s fangus Sania lily valerian and Greta

[dire moth]

^^^ dont need tanky holden tho u can go fast holden so he can get the ATK down and dispel immunity turn 1

While freya can give you Def up

[stable heron]

I know the formula, I just want to know how much eff res these stages have. I assumed they all had none 'cause I'm pretty sure doki has none

[dire moth]

10% confirmed by devs but tbh probably is more like 20ish on the inferno stages

[frozen panther]

@dire moth There we
Def
Def
Res

[stable heron]

I'm pretty sure the dev confirmation was more to the skill proc floor. Meaning, skills cannot go under 10% chance to miss or land, as the ceiling and floor is 90/10 respectively.

[dire moth]

greta?

Fangus Bramble Unbreaking till u can swap to Bramble Stride
SSania bramble unbreaking
Valerian go Full HP ( WellSpring Cure ) evolguard is a +1 but not required
lily just go full speed

[stable heron]

Ok I rewatched the hyper talk. "Fixed resistance of 10%, meaning debuffs cannot exceed 90%"

[frozen panther]

@dire moth
Hp
Hp
Hp
Why no acc

[dire moth]

cause u dont need acc on freya

nightmare debuff wont save you and doesnt increase DOT if it did every1 would run erosion nightmare + Def down debuff

[frozen panther]

Hmm

[cold obsidian]

hi again,with this comp what sets should i be putting?

[dire moth]

this will not save u so theres 0 point in eff hit on freya

Dot doesnt trigger nightmare

nore will it heal u

[stone river]

Is there a proper turn order I should follow for Freya valerian Ssania fangus lily team ?

[dire moth]

these two will

[dire moth]

Speed turandot and freya
Tank SSania and fangus ( valerine is the same but build her hp )

[dire moth]

not really u just want lily to go first to buff SSania

[cold obsidian]

aite

[frozen panther]

@dire moth I do speed

[dire moth]

although u can swap fangus or freya for a dispeller if doing inferno

[prisma cliff]

who should i put on my ssania team i got all srs and should i pull for holden for her team?

[lofty crane]

@dire moth Dorothy set, shell, and main stats?

[stone river]

I'm only at hell, does hell need fangus ?

[dire moth]

Nah

[flint zenith]

i was reading some earlier messages, is the dot comp not auto o.o ?

[dire moth]

Speed semi tanky subs if skilled up on S1 get crit rate

[dire moth]

It can be auto

[lofty crane]

ok ty

[flint zenith]

what makes it go from auto to not auto?

[dire moth]

Jackle artian Halloween

[dire moth]

Shells substats investments in skill levels

^^^ mythic shells inferno have higher stat values than mythic shells from hell

[flint zenith]

ahh

[dire moth]

Same goes with modules pretty sure

[flint zenith]

interesting. for shells im kinda in a weird spot ... I can get artisan but its only in nightmare mode, im assuming drop rate is lower than in hell. Still worth doing or nah?

im srsly lacking damage dealer sets to farm higher end shells in general

lol

[dire moth]

Still fine

[flint zenith]

so I guess the other units go on the shitty shells until then .-.

[dire moth]

Artian is fine on lower levels

Cause you just want it due to its passive

Let’s u give around a 18k shield

And where are u in terms of shell bosses

[flint zenith]

first level of nico

[dire moth]

Ah okay

[flint zenith]

still "early" based on ur chart up above

[prisma cliff]

who should i put on my ssania team i got all srs and should i pull for holden for her team?

[flint zenith]

its so long to farm the damn shells lol .-.

[dire moth]

Yeah it’s just he level locks tbh

[neon garden]

Wait what's the main stat? def def acc?

[dire moth]

Yes for Holden lily valerine fangus

[dire moth]

For which unit

[neon garden]

ssania and fangus

[dire moth]

SSania run effect hit x2 unless I have gaze can do a def hp effect hit

[prisma cliff]

Ty!

[dire moth]

Fangus just run full tank or 1 effect hit 2 tank

[neon garden]

gotcha thanks

I'll be 35 tmrw, after shell straight to hell terra

[dire moth]

Roll gaze as passive 3

Or dauntless

Dauntless makes u take 10% less damage

Or gaze which gives u 50% effect acc

[neon garden]

oh wow that's a lot

ig my 33-35 farm is shells then

[rich vine]

I can’t scroll to the top too many messages, what is Ssania spell rotation?

[cloud saffron]

I dont have lily, who can I substitute with?

[flint zenith]

it will be longer than 33-35 😛

[neon garden]

oh true, pre-farm

[hexed fiber]

is DOT team autoable to clear inferno stages? or u have to manual every single time u wanna farm?

if its autoable does only certain teams works in auto? or ?? how does it works

[neon garden]

terra and shell inferno

[hexed fiber]

autoable u mean?

[dire moth]

beyotin

[dire moth]

depends how much u invested as well as how far youve progressed your modules / shells

[hexed fiber]

mind elaborating on how much investment needed to auto it?

like are we talking lattice investment ? or level investment? or minmaxing module stat?

[dire moth]

same shell ones form inferno ones from hell 5 speed might not seem like a difference but it is

team would be mostly 6*

but thats how its gonna be for most stages

^^^^ as in bosses

[hexed fiber]

got it thank you

so does it work on doki2 inferno aswell?

[dire moth]

lattice youd get max S1 S2 for SSania this lets her double stack dot

S2 just means u can cycel the dot quicker

and your shells would be mainly from inferno if u can

as they just have higher base stats than the one from hell

^^^ cost same amount to upgrade just get better stats is all

[hexed fiber]

so dot team basicly works on every inferno stages EXCEPT

• Doki2 inferno
• aurora inferno
• sharon shell inferno

right? or am i missing smth

[silent hare]

Is a v8 commodore (holden) a viable 1-1 replacement for the circus lady (lily) on terror earlier on?

[dire moth]

Idk if doki inferno has mind field

[flint zenith]

honestly, starting with the team just to be able to farm hell2/3 in terror to get a decent dps set to farm inferno shells is all i want atm >.<

[dire moth]

if doki inferno has mind field than yes it wouldnt work there

[hexed fiber]

is mind field the one blocking dot?

[dire moth]

if it doesnt than no should be fine just take out fangus

mind field is a passive that blocks DOT while Immunity start up is just a buff

[warped tinsel]

What abt freya

[hexed fiber]

how do i check this

[dire moth]

dw youll be able 2

[dire moth]

load up into stage

than click boss mechanic

and not all mind fields are the same

some are immune to dot some arent

[outer scarab]

for early game what is a good module set for ssania?

[hexed fiber]

wait did u hit inferno yet??

[flint zenith]

or replay right?

[dire moth]

nah not on doki doki building up 2 SR green units for the free to play comp

yeah or replay

[dire moth]

to answer your question she doesnt have mind field

so dot will be fine but better to run 2 greens

[hexed fiber]

Soo

Technically iy works

Got it

[dire moth]

unbreaking 12 if u cant get bramble

[hexed fiber]

Stupid question how do i get to the top of this post

I aint scrolling 3k message 😭🫠

[dire moth]

Pin message

[flint zenith]

pin msg or arrow top right

[neon garden]

upper right

[hexed fiber]

Thanks alll

[calm totem]

Is SSania + Fungus team for Terromation viable without Lily ?

[dire moth]

Yes

[warm hearth]

im not sure u was mention yet but is skill upgrade piority between ssania and lily is lv5 s1 lily then lv 5 s1 ssania ?

[calm totem]

what can I run to make it stable ?
Valerian
SSania
Fungus
???
???
I have Freya, Kloss, Marvel , Mio, Doki Doki, Beyontin,

[flint zenith]

holden doki

:3

5 refreshes deep and still no artisan with decent sets .-.

[empty wraith]

@dire moth Does dot auto inferno?

[prisma cliff]

What shell is good on Holden?

[wooden umbra]

i dont think u can beat artisan on him esp since he's a def scaler in the first place

[prisma cliff]

Thanks

[wraith flare]

Have you changed ur line up? Curious

[warped tinsel]

@dire moth Do I need 100% acc?

[craggy perch]

i did it terror hell IV becos of her, thank yall.

[lament merlin]

how's dot performance in doki?

[merry violet]

Is there any preference between def% and hp% for mainstats and subs

[visual creek]

I'm newbie just reroll and get sania . lv.15

• How can I build team ?
• How to order speed of team?
  aim to grind Terror and Doki
  *note : no lily

[frozen panther]

you have ditng

[visual creek]

Hm diting? I dont have him

[frozen panther]

me too

top 1 ditng

i jealos

[visual creek]

what about DoT team? I need to know speed order.

[past sorrel]

Is lily presence in dot teams only for the speed up? Is she replaceable with Mio or what else is Lily bringing to the dot team

[cinder cargo]

her s1 fua lets ssania cycle her s1 very fast

[rich kestrel]

@dire moth Is worth it reset massiah s3 lvl5 to sania s1 level5?

[visual creek]

I dont have lily bro as I post before.

[tender jungle]

Are there suggestions for terror inferno without Holden?

[stuck nymph]

i want to auto farm shell hoyan hell, for ssania, better swiftset to speed, or just build tanky (bramble unbreak)
team : ssania, lily, fangus, valer

[rocky crow]

Is it possible to complete Terrormaton Hell 4 with Shadow Sania but without Lily? Does anyone know? Has anyone tried it? If so, send me the build. I'm stuck. I can't beat Hell 4 with Diting and Khloros. ty.

[tender jungle]

Running bramble unbreak

[cinder cargo]

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rin is better though, he talks about it

[frozen panther]

Yaa

[frozen panther]

With holden

[visual creek]

freya is needed in DoT team?

[gusty pine]

still worth build ssania and fungus?

[inland terrace]

I'm trying to get my SSania to work, and I've been using the SSania, Fangus, Dorothy the Wisher and Freya but I'm unable to sustain. In a 5man I'll use Mia, but in 4 man parties, what's the recommended group?

[coral dune]

maybe go ssania fangus freya valerian

[frozen panther]

Done rest lain then who best

@dire moth

[unkempt tartan]

what is BIS for SSania I know freya fangus ssania

[stuck nymph]

does mandatory to up s1 fangus to max? to auto farm

[cinder cargo]

yes

[coral dune]

how much speed does ssania and fangus need

[round hawk]

is amber really BiS for terra auto farming?

[cinder cargo]

no u can throw on any shell for terra auto farming

but amber is pretty important in harder content

an extra turn will get you the clear more often

[round hawk]

And the best team i can do is lily, freya, fangus, ssania, valerian? or should i slot in holden?

[distant tartan]

what module should i use for valerrian

in guide it says timeweaver + swiftrush....timeweaver for slumber??

[rustic moth]

check pins and scroll a little, there's sets + geared unit examples

[tender jungle]

Lol, but I don’t have him and probs won’t pull him any time soon 🥲

[distant tartan]

i did check the guide...just want to know why timeweaver on her and not strive

[midnight sinew]

is SSania viable for inferno content without lily or dorothy?

[rocky crow]

Is there a video on how to complete Hell 4 with Shadow Sania, but without Lily and Mia? Or could someone record one for me? I'm stuck.

[fallow rivet]

With which characters should we pair Holden?

[void belfry]

Is battlewill + Bramble a good set on S.Sania?

[rare meteor]

Is this working on inferno without Lilly?

[slate rain]

is this still working? anyone can confirm?

[inland terrace]

finally

[coral dune]

is this good for now?

[willow knot]

Would SSania Fangus Dorothy(wisher), Mia and Valerian works?

[shell dew]

do u also know howmuch eff acc ssania wnats?

[cinder cargo]

we don't know exactly because no monster eff res info is out but the general consesus is that at least 100

[shell dew]

and the more the better?

[cinder cargo]

not really at some point it doesn't really do anything, and it's better for some hp/def

2 eff acc + 1def/hp

[shell dew]

when is that point

150?

[cinder cargo]

find out the monster res eff

and we'll know

[shell dew]

oh I see, so the monsters res eff is never given?

[cinder cargo]

yes it's not public info

[shell dew]

but people can test it out in rta no where they know how much res eff in a firendly battle

[cinder cargo]

rta doesn't count

because people can build 150 eff res

then we'll need 150 eff acc

[shell dew]

oh

so the ratio is 1:1? for each eff res u need 1 eff acc?

[cinder cargo]

yes according to some testing

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more info about it here

if you want it to be almost guaranteed safe you can stack 150+

[shell dew]

I see thanks, can I ask another question, how hard is it to farm a good set of mythic for my dot team? I was planning to sell everything below epic.

[shell dew]

right, but uwill be less thanky u have to go 3 eff acc right side no?

[cinder cargo]

ya

[shell dew]

I feel like 2 eff acc si better right?

[cinder cargo]

yes

there is an exception if u get the 3rd passive that gives you eff acc every time you take a turn

you can go 1 eff acc

[shell dew]

wait which set is tihs?

[cinder cargo]

it's on every shell

gazing passive 3rd slot

[shell dew]

ohh

[cinder cargo]

like this one but higher level ofc

[shell dew]

I should aim for that I think

1 eff acc is kinda nice to get my dot team tankier

bt gett hp or def% there is also fine rigt

[cinder cargo]

yes

[strange wedge]

Is auto Hoyan possible yet

[cinder cargo]

you're talking about hell right

[strange wedge]

im so lazy for manual

yeah

[strange wedge]

autoing any Inferno is quite the task lol

[cinder cargo]

i feel like it's gonna be impossible for a long time

but we'll see

oh

wait i read the entire thing wrong..

yes auto hoyan is very possible on hell

[strange wedge]

whats the setup

[cinder cargo]

lily valerian ssania fangus

[strange wedge]

hmm

fangus instead of CC

i dont think ill survive, but ill test

[shell dew]

I am still not sure if I should pull on freya or holden banner did u do it?

or should I keep pulling on permanent

[strange wedge]

Do what

[shell dew]

the holden/freya banner

[cinder cargo]

depends on where u are in the game

[shell dew]

I am lvl 35

[cinder cargo]

freya is much better prog early -> mid -> late

holden is really there for inferno

and aurora hell

[shell dew]

well I have hein for aurora hell

[strange wedge]

goddamn Fangus is so squishy

[strange wedge]

what shells

oh wait nvm it works

[strange wedge]

its okay if Fangus dies lol

[shell dew]

do I pull on banner or pemanent?

[cinder cargo]

these are the stats for them and it clears

[slate rain]

what stage? inferno?

[cinder cargo]

hell hoyan

he was asking for the team i use to auto

[strange wedge]

Doing 8 runs now, lets see winrate

[shell dew]

do u know my question too? I think freya is used in some shell stages and holden is used for terror.

[cinder cargo]

i can't answer that

@dire moth

but i'm sure you don't really need freya

the core of the comp is the 4 i listed

well not valerian either

xdd the 3

[shell dew]

ye thats the one I am building, but I do saw some people used freya isntead of valerian

[cinder cargo]

nah you def want valerian in terror esp early on

in inferno they drop freya for holden

for dispel

[shell dew]

ye thats why I was wonmdering if I should pull holden I do got hein but was told holden is better for it

[devout stone]

Does the ssania/ fangus work for hell1 as well? Or scales better from hell 4 onwards

[cinder cargo]

it works even from hard terror

[devout stone]

Does it work well with hell lvl shell farming as well?

[cinder cargo]

probably, certain ones are gonna be harder

diting is better at farming a lot of the hell ones, faster too

[strange wedge]

Thanks, it works

[cinder cargo]

[strange wedge]

Just need to optimize modules for 100% W/R

[distant tartan]

can u show the modules too thank u

[coral dune]

i mean a hell 4 win is a hell 4 win with a half built fangus

[round hawk]

@coral dune u run speed cycle or the def+bramble set? gz tho!

[coral dune]

def + bramble

[willow knot]

Anyone with no Lily clearing hell 4 mind sharing?

[coral dune]

im planning on switching to a speed set after i clear and get some fast doki doki hell 4 runs

[round hawk]

whats the requirement for the speed cycle, like do u need a fast team or a fast lily?

[tender jungle]

Pulled messiah… reset rilmolcha?

[coral dune]

from what ive seen everyone expect for valerian needs to be atleast around 90-100 additional speed

[gentle crystal]

anyone run inferno niconana with sania and lily ? my win rate is like 50% need help!

I'm wonder i need to 6star sania or not

[coral dune]

u might need to put fangus

[gentle crystal]

fangus work with auto ?

[coral dune]

dont rlly know abt that

[slow violet]

hmm gonna test later with double heal as well

for now just farming doki doki

[neon garden]

Dont need sustain, just go fast fast stack.

[round hawk]

@coral dune would u recommend me aiming for speed team since i can do hell 4 doki instead of doing def into it later

[willow knot]

noone??😭

[slow violet]

i probably would just go fangus with 2 healers and lily lol . shadow sania alone is to slow i think fangus can do good dps with dps gear

[cinder cargo]

is it actually inferno

[slow violet]

regarding nico nana inferno

[coral dune]

u should ask @dire moth

[slow violet]

inferno*

[cinder cargo]

if it's inferno, no point trying to do fangus dps

[slow violet]

ah okay. i will see later

[gentle crystal]

yeah inferno

[round hawk]

@dire moth 🙏 More curious as to if like one is just better than other, ideally want safe auto team

[cinder cargo]

did u try fangus before instead of sustain

[tight dawn]

hey guys does lily is a must for this team? i dont have lily but i do have other

[cinder cargo]

not a must

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but potentially a must for inferno clears

but for hell 4, definitely not

[tight dawn]

SSania
Freya
Lily --? Who i can replace her
Fangus
Valerian

[gentle crystal]

I saw someone using this team on Inferno who has a win rate higher than 90%

[willow knot]

I’m planning to use Mia or maybe Dorothy (the wisher) both reduce cd but Mia has strip as well

[gentle crystal]

But I'm wondering which path I missed

[tight dawn]

this is my team i will build fangus and ssmania

[cinder cargo]

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no lily clear

[tight dawn]

can this team do auto?

[cinder cargo]

probably can with some gear

[tight dawn]

man i am crying right now with this stupid terror

[cinder cargo]

i have a lily and i'm not wasting resources on lily subs so can't tell you for sure, only he can

he's been testing units

[tight dawn]

I want lily so damm hard that the game give me mio dupe

💀

[rocky crow]

Anyone without Mia? XD

[tight dawn]

wdym

i dont have Mia either

[slim quartz]

is this line up ok for inferno?

[gaunt ingot]

I want to join the cult xD

[cinder cargo]

lowkey it can work

[slim quartz]

i wish i had lily 😦

[gaunt ingot]

But I dont have Lily, these are my units: Ssania, Fangus, Freya, Valerian, Kloss, Rin, Holden, Diting

[tight dawn]

me too

[cinder cargo]

dorothy the wisher maybe better than chiaki

[rocky crow]

I don't have Lily or Mia... any other recommendations that work?

[cinder cargo]

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[gaunt ingot]

Same here @noble oyster

[gaunt ingot]

Can I use Rin instead of Lily though?

[tight dawn]

Same

[rocky crow]

these are my units any recomendation?

[gaunt ingot]

Ssania, Fangus, Freya, Rin, Valerian?

[cinder cargo]

yes

[frozen panther]

Max ?

[rocky crow]

Do those work for hell 4?

[cinder cargo]

he's here

now i can go play

[dire moth]

s1 i am awake now

[frozen panther]

Huh

Are you fast wake up

[gaunt ingot]

That's what I was wondering as well, and does Rin just need bramble and def set?

[frozen panther]

Right now max ?

[dire moth]

no max if u can

[cinder cargo]

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vid of similar comp clearing hell 4 terror

[frozen panther]

Done skill

[frozen panther]

S1 how many skill lvl up

[rocky crow]

yes but remember i dont have mia

[gaunt ingot]

Dont have Mia😭

[slim quartz]

just checked my units, the only red unit im missing is dorothy lol

dafug

[dire moth]

2 minimum 4 if u can max it and 0 if u have god siub stats

[frozen panther]

God ?

[stiff sapphire]

Any link to your top post?

[cinder cargo]

it's in the pinned

[tight dawn]

The ssania god is back plz help with the team without lily

[frozen panther]

Ohh turn 2

[gaunt ingot]

This, and without Mia too

[stiff sapphire]

Thanks

[rocky crow]

hi, Do you have any videos without Lily and Mia? Something more generic that maybe we all have?

[tight dawn]

Yeah bro i dont have mia and lily either

[frozen panther]

Idk ssania

Shell

[gaunt ingot]

Help us Master, we want to be a part of the Ssania cult

[tight dawn]

Yes sir

[round hawk]

would u recommend me aiming for speed team since i can do hell 4 doki instead of doing def / bramble then moving to speed. And like is one just better/safer than the other? @dire moth

[crystal tusk]

Which Fangus skill should be upgraded to the max?

[dire moth]

if u can yeah

[cinder cargo]

s2 > s1

[dire moth]

black flag for now until u get a decent artian

[neon garden]

Fml

[dire moth]

lol not required but is nice

[acoustic moat]

if u have holden, the comp for terror could be: Lily, Holden, Fangus, Sania, Valerian? or u need freeya? and in case u use holden, he needs to be faster than lily to start first and debuff terror turn 1?

[neon garden]

3 ld spark, all ssania

[dire moth]

this is fine no dont need freya but holden does need to be fast

[tight dawn]

Oh i forget to mention i have folden too

[gaunt ingot]

@dire moth Does this work? Ssania, Fangus, Freya, Holden/Rin, Valerian

[acoustic moat]

struggling to make my holden faster than lily, if i cant make it i guess i should keep using freeya

[dire moth]

for inferno still need dispeller

[dire moth]

yes this is fine

[tight dawn]

Are you sure

[dire moth]

yeah im pretty sure that will be fine its dooable without lily

just need holden to dispel immunity

[round hawk]

is amber still > artisan in a valerina comp?

[tight dawn]

Ssania , fangus and holden i have not build yet. Who should i consider focus first?

[frozen panther]

There good

[tight dawn]

And can hendridh replace holden?

[dire moth]

Artian on valerina If u use val you wont need amber but its nice cause it gives u a extra turn of dot doing damage if units are weak

[dire moth]

yeah holden is just nice due to the elemental advantage giving him ER

[tight dawn]

@dire moth

[dire moth]

this is fine just put a shell on her u can take off 1 bramble when u do for another unbreaking so u can do 8-8

[dire moth]

SSania is core others are more of supports

unless u know youre that one guy who has 12 perfect latice waiting when holden first came out

[rocky crow]

just to recap it would be: Ssania, Fangus, Hendrich, Freya and Valerian?

[tight dawn]

Does ssania need to max out her skill or not

[dire moth]

yeah if no lily if lily use her over freya

[bleak drum]

If I try this on Inferno, am I supposed to have my dispeller go first before Lily? What's the turn order?

[dire moth]

nope but will make your run quicker

[tight dawn]

How about holden and fangus

Do they need to be max a specific skill

[dire moth]

this would be nice <<< this lets u first turn stack DOT but not required youll just miss the first stack which can be important sometimes

[frozen panther]

Done 8 ?

[dire moth]

holden 0 latice unless u want to put some into his S3 for increased Dispel chance ( as in no crit module to double the effect chance ) and fangus max S2 so he has a higher assist rate

[dire moth]

8-8 as in unbreaking 8 bramble 8 <<< do this once u can get a shell 4 it

as in swap this module later on

^^^^ in order to save u coins

[frozen panther]

Really searios I am mad i haven't valk and diting why why

[willow knot]

for Hell iv, SSania + Fangus + Freya + Mia + Valerian is good right? what about inferno? I do have Heinrich, who is he gonna replace?

[frozen panther]

.... I did lvl up

Ops

[crystal tusk]

I’ve got all the Heroes for my DoT team , can you tell me how to build them so I can run it properly?

I can’t find the first post with all the guides in it

[dire moth]

12-8 unbreaking bramble if u can for SSania
SwiftRush for Lily <<<< can do swiftrush with a 4 set
SwiftRush holden <<< u want him to be quick for first turn dispell
Fangus <<<< 12-8 same as ssania unless u can run the 8-8 bramble stride
Valerine <<<<< WellSpring cure + Evolguard <<< this is a 12-8-6 but if u dont have a 3-3-3 use a 12-8 or 8-8
Freya if u use over valerine use swiftrush 12 with 4 wellspring <<< this just insures she has hp to survive first hit

[crystal tusk]

Thanks a lot, How about Shell?

[dire moth]

BlackFlag or Gigabyte on Lily <<< halloween works 2 if u live u can cycle with this better
Amber if your substats arent the greatest on fangus and ssania <<< this lets u get extra turn of dot if u do die due to terror getting a extra turn but puts u in iced stat if not can run codex halloween or artian
Valerina preferablly artian or gigabyte
Holden u just want him to be fast so blackflag gigabyte or any of the attacking ones cause he does do good damage
Freya same thing as lily but no halloween

[gentle crystal]

Hey there! I was hoping you could help me out.

I'm trying to auto the Niconana dungeon (Inferno) right now, but I still can't quite manage it. My win rate is stuck at 50/50. I've noticed I usually lose because the monsters keep stunning me or my poison debuffs aren't landing. My accuracy is already +140%, so do you have any other tips? @dire moth

[frozen panther]

Build soon

[dire moth]

black flag is a gold but on inferno its base stats are higher and the same as a mythic that drops from hell incase youre wondering

[frozen panther]

About fangus

[strange wedge]

Wait, Terror gets the extra turn even if Amber procs?

[gentle crystal]

auto not manual sir

[crystal tusk]

Thanks for the guide, bro. Sorry if I bugged you ,I really appreciate it!

[frozen panther]

Ask him

[dire moth]

terror gets extra turn if unit dies pretty sure

[dire moth]

but no if amber procs it wont

[strange wedge]

Ah okay

[dire moth]

its just since youre in crystal stat your units still count as alive so the game keeps running

[round hawk]

@dire moth I got a Gigabyte with 3 swift/timeweave is that decent to use with ssania or lily?

see some people run it in inferno

with speed teams

[dire moth]

yeah tbh i just go all in on the fangus SSania here valerine is still good inferno has higher initiate base res than hell but having ER substats is just good to avoid stun since its the main killer and helps u res the DEF down

[dire moth]

both speed teams are cycle teams <<<< need at least 240-250 speed on units if u want to do this

[tight dawn]

Is this hell or inferno

[coral dune]

can the ssania team clear all ember trek?

[dire moth]

inferno

[cinder cargo]

you can't clear ember trek with dot

most of the bosses in there are immune to dot

[dire moth]

not all some bosses have the will field

[lethal atlas]

SSania-Freya-Heinrich-Valerian-Fangus would be my best team here right (for terror)?
Or would there be a better team?

[dire moth]

yes

[lethal atlas]

aside from ssania, who'd be the best to 6 star in that team?

i have enough to 6* 2 animus

[dire moth]

Freya or Heinrich <<< can actually do both of these but this means valerine procs immunity onto SSania so shes not getting 1 tapped

[tight dawn]

I think i will go with this team too

[tight dawn]

Henrich

Later u can use in pvv and other pve contents

[frozen panther]

State and gear good ?@dire moth

[mental tapir]

as an f2p with limited resources, as of now, how much should i build Heinrich for this team: SSania-Freya-Heinrich-Valerian-Fangus?
What set? which skills need to be upped and how much? What shell is preferred? Thanks.

[dire moth]

irs fine but need HP on Sania since she heals of health %

[dire moth]

speed with Effect Hit or i think some ppl do the tank heinrich now

[mental tapir]

gotcha, do i need to invest in any of his skills to any certain level to be worth playing in this comp?

[dire moth]

dont think youll need 2 maybe S3 if it increases buff dispel

[frozen panther]

yes 100%

[foggy matrix]

Is this set module right for her?
Just ignore my stats, just want ask her set modules

[frozen panther]

Swit and ubarb acc or def@dire moth

[foggy matrix]

I use black flag for now with 3 brumble and 3 speed

[dire moth]

Crit rate <<< this buffs his dispell

[dire moth]

if u want to run a 12-8 swiftrush bramble yeah its fine tbh

[frozen panther]

Wait all c rate

[dire moth]

no

at least 1

[frozen panther]

What

[dire moth]

other 2 going to def%

[frozen panther]

Ok 👌

[frozen panther]

Ohh ok thanks

[dire moth]

holdens 3rd skill effect acc doubles off crit

[foggy matrix]

I want that but still not passed hell III to get 3 set per module

[dire moth]

so dont need acc

[frozen panther]

Yeah k

[dire moth]

yeah u on the right path than dw

[frozen panther]

Ok sir

[foggy matrix]

Then how about the rest units??
Freya (swift and ?? )
Lily ( Swift and brumble too??)
Valeri ?

I have the units for DoT team but haven't build them all😅

[dire moth]

freya swift 4 piece wellsprint of 6 piece evolguard
Lily runs swift bramble <<< or swift with defensive 1
Valerine u can go swift if trying to get a double immunity off but having her be slow isnt bad either if u maxed her S3 where she starts off with hazy dream

[foggy matrix]

Freya and lily need acc badly or not??

[frozen panther]

W ssaina nightmare 2

[foggy matrix]

So hard to get acc main stats on the right modules😅
That things that made me slow to build DoT team

[dire moth]

yeah ik

[foggy matrix]

??

[round hawk]

good start 🙏

[bleak drum]

I'm trying Shadowflame Hoyan on Inferno and it seems so RNG.

[dire moth]

neither

[dire moth]

use kazuyo the reverie

[foggy matrix]

Just go for HP% doesn't matter right?

Or at least just put 1 acc modules

[dire moth]

yeah

just hp% or def% no effect acc on either one

or do 2 hp% DEF% and 1 effect res

[strange wedge]

Damnn

wtf

[foggy matrix]

Alright thanks

[bleak drum]

Is she supposed to have 3 eff acc? The sleep seems to work on the small monsters sometimes. Right now I have 2 eff acc

[dire moth]

yeah

it just makes it better imo 2 effect acc is good to

^^^^ i use 3 because my S3 on her is literally 0 laticed

[bleak drum]

All right thanks, I'll switch.

Is this autoable by the way?

[dire moth]

yeah but will require a bit of min maxing if going to auto inferno

that will be a whole seperate explination when i do minmax gear

[foggy matrix]

@dire moth Sorry last question
Which shell for vale, freya, and lily?
Black flag?

😅

[dire moth]

artian vale
Freya can use Black Flag or gigabyte same with lily

[foggy matrix]

I put this just for survive😅

[dire moth]

thats fine 2 tbh just more turns for lily = more dot for follow up assist

[crystal tusk]

What is the best stat module for SSania

[shell dew]

is gigagbyte best for valerian? I saw some people put artisan to get more tanky

[dire moth]

its either 1

u just dont run two gigabytes

two artians*

cause artian shield cant stack

[foggy matrix]

If u have to choose only between giga and black flag, which one that u will choose

[dire moth]

also forgot jackel guard

but between 3

if u can do inferno nico nana black flag might be better just cause its a flat increase to turn meter

^^^^ inferno black flag has same stats as mythich hell shell

[bleak drum]

Much better, the atk down debuff hits more often now.

[strange wedge]

Inferno black flag better than Jackal?

[foggy matrix]

Mythic version of black flag right?😅

[dire moth]

believe so yeah

[dire moth]

if u can get inferno jackal no

[strange wedge]

[foggy matrix]

Why?

[dire moth]

higher difficulty in shell runs plays a roll in your shell stats

[foggy matrix]

Any different with normal black flag and inferno nino black flag?

[dire moth]

yeah

flat stats

a inferno black flag is the same as a mythic shell on hell

a inferno jackal is basically just better than black flag at that point

hell gigabyte

inferno gigabyte

[foggy matrix]

So inferno black flag better than normal jackal and black flag
And inferno jackal better than inferno black flag.
Like that?

[frozen panther]

yep not work

[hearty storm]

i was missing out

[frozen panther]

nightmare 3

[dire moth]

yeah

[hearty storm]

I using all gigabyte shells

no issue right?

i cant chase the boss tho. speed too slow around 210 only

[tropic forum]

Hi! Probably someone asked before but is it possible to do a dots team without lily for inferno terror?

I have pretty much everything but her

[frozen panther]

i have't ril

doki doki beat nothing

[torn vapor]

Someone show me a run without lily, and i'll trust the comp

[dire moth]

alr @strange wedge i did it for u

[lilac viper]

anyone manage to auto inferno nico with ssania team?

[dire moth]

its alr

it does carry over if u use a hell shell it will still give u the inferno shell stats when u imprint @strange wedge

[tropic forum]

if you want it for hell 4 and below, there's a few replays on this same thread

[strange wedge]

[hearty storm]

wait so amber is the best?

i was farming gigabyte

for turn cycle

[dire moth]

1 artian

amber good if substats ass

turn cycle yes farm gigabytes

[hearty storm]

i saw recent clear they just gigabytes and cycle thru right?

artian and amber lesser rng

[rare meteor]

Without Lilly: double healer freya

[lethal atlas]

if I did get Holden, should I use him over Heinrich?

[dire moth]

less rng on sub stats yeah

[dire moth]

yup

[hearty storm]

damn i'll try to farm bramble shells

[left shuttle]

Who is artian?

[strange wedge]

Artisan

[left shuttle]

Oh okie. I thought I was missing smth.

[rare meteor]

Does holden needs skillups?

[ocean raven]

currently no auto yet right for dot

[left shuttle]

Do we just need to imprint inferno giga on hell giga or nah?

[left shuttle]

Wdym? We can auto hell 4 terror here.

[ocean raven]

as in inferno

[dire moth]

hell giga onto inferno

[dire moth]

not yet will see when units built

[ocean raven]

Aite, cause im contemplating ssania atm haha

[left shuttle]

Nice. I thought I'd need to lvl them up again if it won't imprint.

[rare meteor]

Yes? No?

[tight dawn]

Wait did dot team got nerf 60% dmg on terror?

[tight dawn]

What is ur team

[rare meteor]

Lingluo valerian fangus ssania freya

[dire moth]

no

[hearty storm]

wat is the speed requirement for hell IV tho?

250?

230 ssania?

[dire moth]

yeah around 250

[hearty storm]

lily 250
fanus 230
ssania 230?
valarian ?
veronika ?

everyone just 200 spd +?

with gigabyte?

[coral dune]

which for fangus

[devout stone]

i havent even cleared terror hell 1, what what do you think i should build? have most of the SR chars

[tight dawn]

I think you should reset lian

[devout stone]

For sure, just wondering where to invest after i reset

[ocean raven]

For the right modules, all go with def and hp?

[tight dawn]

Lily

Or ssania

[inland terrace]

@dire moth - So I'm still early game with your dot team, but I am struggling with it. Can it do Terramaton? Sure, but it feels like a slog and everything else is painful. Any advice? What do you need from me to post?

I do have rank 5 in SSania's first skill too for reference

Team I'm using is SSania-Fergus-Lily-Freya-Mia

[ocean raven]

eff acc x2 then 1 def for main stats?

[round hawk]

id also like to know the thresholds more or less

[dire moth]

just post units + progression

[dire moth]

either

[dire moth]

just need lily to be fast valarian is meant to be slow for hazy dream buffs

<<<

[ocean raven]

What are the main stats for the cores? Only substats is mentioned, or im blind

[inland terrace]

would it be in my best interest to drop Mia for say, Valerian? I have her S3 at rank 2 atm, but I think I have enough Lattice to get it to 5 if required if you think that will be stronger than Mia for survival

[crystal tusk]

Yooo chill SSania

Look her eyes

[ruby fossil]

can ssania followup after a lily teamup if you use battlewill?

[dense meadow]

can Kloss replace dorothy the wisher?

[rare meteor]

Does ssania needs s2 max?

[dense meadow]

eventually maybe but its not a minimum requriement, more s1 max and fangus s1 s2 max

what would be a good Hoyan team without lily and doro wisher?

[cold obsidian]

what's the difference between tank build and speed build?

[inland terrace]

one can soak up dmg, and the other kills the enemy before they can move?

[rare meteor]

Thanks

[rare meteor]

That is the question most ppl are interested in i think.

[hearty storm]

yep i managed to clear with speed

250 lily the rest 200

for hell IV

just fanus doesn't wanna s1 sometimes

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-slap-fight-mad-no-gif-16415016

[willow zephyr]

Should I still build diting if I have SSania?

[cinder cargo]

we high rolled

turbo lily

[merry violet]

Does valerian need lattices

[inland terrace]

yes on S3. Maxed ideally

[merry violet]

S1 and s2 is whatever?

[wraith flare]

I thought from
The original guide ssania didn’t need to be fast? Or is just better tuned?

[hearty storm]

its fine without

with will be more consistant, because fanus rng

more chance to hit = more chances for fanus passive

[cosmic pecan]

I have no idea how you guys have the lattices for this 😅

[hearty storm]

i only lattices lily s1 and half of ssania s1, fanus s1 and half s2

[cosmic pecan]

And it works for you?

[round summit]

should i 6* ssania, fungus or neither is necessary?

[hearty storm]

ya very rng, pray fanus to proc passive

its not necessary actually

i have 0 6star that team

[wraith flare]

I don’t have the strive gear for fangus… and find every gear except eff acc %

[cosmic pecan]

What are you able to clear @hearty storm ?

[hearty storm]

hell IV only

[cosmic pecan]

My normal team is stuck on hell 2 so that would be a big improvement for me

[hearty storm]

the bramble one would be more consistant

i invested into speed or i just went for it

[cosmic pecan]

Just don’t know where I am going to get lattice lol

[dire moss]

Any inferno auto team?

[tulip lark]

For niconana lily lingluo valerian sania is super safe

[dire moss]

Ooh thanks I’ll try that team

[ruby fossil]

you get a good amount tbh

and with the reset event it's easy to reallocate

[shell dew]

can u show shells too

[tulip lark]

Np let me know the result

[inland nova]

I was going for Diting build but I just pulled SSania and I have Lily. I'm Lvl40 atm and I'm doing Hell 2 consistenly. Do you guys think that switching to DoT right now will help me get to Hell 4? Even in Dokidoki? I'm using Massiah there

[round hawk]

@inland nova yes, I found diting/khloros team is so gear heavy and difficult to execute - i did variations of diting/khloros/lily and nothing worked for hell IV because i needed more gear from terra but couldnt clear IV once. So even if u manage to do hell 3, 4 is way worse

I wouldnt use ssania in doki though

[inland nova]

I see... I heard SSania is safe in Doki though. I'm clearing slowly with Massiah atm, until I can get Revelation at least

[round hawk]

I dont know enough about SSania in doki, but for terra id def recommend it, since SSania is also endgame for a lot of shells

[inland nova]

I would have to reset Diting for Fungus to get some Lettuces back though. And probably Massiah as well to get SSania's S1 to max

[hybrid zenith]

so how many of you guys are actually gonna manual a ssania team to farm every day? considering if you refresh max its +1k stamina which is 100 runs

and then there is potion refills on 2x weekend

and if you arent using her to farm is she worth 5 lattice then

[dire moss]

I managed to clear it but the cc was super bad, needs better gear for sure

[wraith flare]

Don’t most have it on auto farm?

[dire moss]

Do you have any shadowflame team?

[shadow panther]

@dire moth Thanks for the guide! I was able to get through Hell 4 almost without any gear because until now I hadn’t farmed Doki Doki or Terrormaton in Hell (I was waiting to reach Hell 4 or Inferno to start farming)

[tulip lark]

Need correct shells also

One artisan makes it safer

And depends of your tankyness and res

But it's safe

[dire moss]

I see, will try that too. For artisan, should I do 3 def% body?

[warped tinsel]

Can the team run without a healer?

[robust glen]

hello how can I go the first message from the phone

It is very hard to scroll al way up to the first post

[tulip lark]

Just go in the pin my man

[robust glen]

sorry for noob question

[tulip lark]

I don't have it but you can try and see if it's better for you

[robust glen]

But it does not go to the initial conversation

there are info about which shell to use modules at the beginning

[tropic forum]

it works fine for me

[cold obsidian]

press jump to message then click the link

[tulip lark]

Are you clickng on jump?

100% it's that

[steep orchid]

If you are on mobile, I just tap near the top of my screen and it brings me to the top

[robust glen]

Thank you Daiby it worked<3

[hybrid zenith]

ssania will s2 then s3 on auto and lily will s2 s3, you need to manually use their s1 to stack the dots

[cosmic pecan]

Is there a way to get to the guide again? I saw it once when I first opened this thread and now it seems to be an infinite scroll trying to get back to it...

[hybrid zenith]

click this to go to top

also its pinned

[cosmic pecan]

Thanks

[inland nova]

grats man, can you share your build / stats? I'm trying to reach Hell IV as well, it would be awesome

[steep orchid]

Gonna try
SSania, Fangus, Freya, Dorothy, Val

Based on this thread I think I have good enough gear, just need to figure out the execution

I would swap in mia but I dont think I have the speed for it

[shell dew]

@dire moth I think u posted ur builds somewhere but I cant find it did I read over it

[round hawk]

Just wanted to share what i used to clear Hell IV first try with SSania, i def overprepared but it was very clean, lots of skills not even maxed, or levelled

This is the alternative speed variant, i plan on getting 200+ on everyone, building holden.

[shell dew]

can I ask why not cure isntead for valerian?

[tight dawn]

i can change lily with holden right?

[dire moss]

Whats a good valerian shell? I’m using gigabyte rn

[shell dew]

can I see ur shells to obtw

[shadow panther]

my gear is not the best

[round hawk]

Her shields scale with hp, and u just want to keep her alive

[shell dew]

oh thats smart

[shell dew]

can I see shells btw

[inland nova]

awesome, thank you

[round hawk]

im not 100% sure but wouldnt u replace lily with mia and freya with holden?

[shadow panther]

np

[tulip lark]

They are about to make an update hopefully it's not for Sania....

[round hawk]

@shell dew lily uses gigabyte, freya jackal gaurd, ssania amber, valerina i havent done so just black flag

and fangus also black flag until i change it

[left shuttle]

I cam finally auto hell hoyan omg. Just needed to put Artisan on her.

[shell dew]

but what would fangus/valerian shell be after u do it?

[cosmic pecan]

Not sure if i should use my resets to try and get this comp online

[left shuttle]

Make sure you have enough lattices.

It won't quite work in auto if you don't have enough percentages.

[bleak drum]

Normal comps can do that

[cosmic pecan]

Looks like it will take my whole accounts worth lol

[tight dawn]

i dont have lily

[round hawk]

@shell dew one of them artisan and the other one whatever i have extra

[left shuttle]

My ssania kept dying.

[tight dawn]

and i dont have mia

[left shuttle]

Because of the counteratk.

[tight dawn]

what shell do u guys use for ssania

[cosmic pecan]

Do you happen to know how many it req's?

[left shuttle]

In hoyan hell I use artisan. For terror it's giga.

Well that's what works for me.

[left shuttle]

8 for Fangus? Some didn't max him tho.

[tight dawn]

what skill do i need to max first for fangus and ssania

[cosmic pecan]

SS does not need them?

[wraith flare]

Apologies if this has already been answered but for terra is there an alternative to lily?

[left shuttle]

Mine has s1 max bur someone here didn't max her and can auto terror.

[cosmic pecan]

I have more access to purple than gold tofu, so that's promising.

[left shuttle]

Max follow up for fangus first.

[tight dawn]

which one

s2?

[left shuttle]

Yes.

To add more dot.

S2 then s1 for fangus.

[shell dew]

is 200 acc really needed for ssania?

[left shuttle]

Ssania s1 first.

No? I've only got like 122.

[shell dew]

so just triple acc?

[left shuttle]

I do 2 acc and one hp.

[bleak drum]

Hm. Right now I am using Artisan on Ssania, not sure I want to replace with this.

[shell dew]

but is 3 acc better?

[left shuttle]

I'm still lvl 47.😔😔

[bleak drum]

I use 3 acc, still get resists

[shell dew]

really? so 3 acc is neededd then?

[cosmic pecan]

damn can get 6 only.

[bleak drum]

I use it for consistensy

[shell dew]

what level are u

what is the flash update about?

[left shuttle]

My fangus the one with full acc. Cause he's the one I see who misses his follow up.

[shadow panther]

higher is better, the creator of this guide has like 180%

[shell dew]

did he posted his bnuild btw

I cant find it anymore

[shadow panther]

.

[cosmic pecan]

It's pinned, take a look there

[shell dew]

I see thanks

[shell dew]

btw what are these updates about

[undone spindle]

Fangus skill prio please?

Can you guys auto inferno nico nana now?

[left shuttle]

S2 then s1.

[dire moth]

i am awake again

[round hawk]

whats the manual order of skills to use for ssania is it like 1 -> 2 -> 1 -> 3 or 3 whenever enough dots?

[hazy dagger]

Did a hell 4 clear with my goat andrew lmfao

[dire moth]

nice

[hazy dagger]

from my understanding its always s1, and then there will be a point in the run where you can max the s2 value to double dots, rarely use s3 unless speed running?

[icy wing]

say mums you did it with andrew

send the team comps

[tulip lark]

Yes

[hazy dagger]

Look in teh Shadow sania guide in this discord

i used an andrew 5 star no lily

[undone spindle]

Which team please? S. Sania fangus lily and who?

[ruby fossil]

inferno feels kinda rough sometimes with just 2acc

[tulip lark]

Ling luo to make it safe and no fungus but valerian

[icy wing]

is this not the ssania guide?

[hazy dagger]

OH LOL

wait let me find it

[dire moth]

[icy wing]

i have it hard out here no ssania no diting only victor

[hazy dagger]

here

[icy wing]

ty

[shell dew]

This is not showing his builds

[dire moth]

tells u what to build or optimizing builds

[shell dew]

Found it, is this the same builds as for shell farming?

[lethal atlas]

do you have any clips of runs with s. sania without lily? and with builds if possible

[shell dew]

Did he post it somewhere?

[elder cedar]

how's inferno clear ? or havent done yet

[dire moth]

yes

[dire moth]

already cleared it

cleared it b4 i went to bedge

[shell dew]

120 acc only?

People showing 200 acc

[elder cedar]

nice, will focus on SSania team again after clearing dokidoki inferno

[shadow panther]

yeah,he post photos of his characters

[icy wing]

is there a replacement for freya on the andrew team version?

[shell dew]

Where i cant find it

[dire moth]

u can use higher ACC but to answer question this

[cosmic pecan]

Hmmm was going to wait for the double events to get this up but I guess that's when this will be more useful.

[elder cedar]

@dire moth freya dmg amp works on dot ?

[dire moth]

gaze at max can actually give 50% so its a whole extra shell

[elder cedar]

same with kloss hacking

[dire moth]

its mainly for DEF up and TB Boost

[shell dew]

Oh so u gor 160 acc basically, can i ask how much u recommend to go for

[elder cedar]

gotcha

[dire moth]

200 if u really feel like it but 1.5* is good enough to get consistent DOT procs

[shell dew]

And how much u need to auto

[dire moth]

only run defence on fangus cause well hes SR has lower stats and is mainly going to get dps through his assist dot rates

[left shuttle]

But doesn't he need to be fast?

[dire moth]

1.5* is good enough to auto but youre gonna wanna 6* all units if afking inferno due to well he hurts and u need to live a few turns for the AI

[pulsar meteor]

you'd need to 6 star the whole team?

[dire moth]

nah not unless u running the 12-12 timeweaver build to spam S3

[pulsar meteor]

but if manual no need?

[dire moth]

if manual no need can do it with like 2-3 5*

[elder cedar]

ssania auto sucks, thats the point lol

[pulsar meteor]

damn

[dire moth]

but if u truly want to auto with 10-10 clears yeah it would be prefered to 6* most the team

[pulsar meteor]

thx for the guide and answering questions btw. very helpful!

[dire moth]

yeah but only1 thats doing it consistent for now

[elder cedar]

for latice, got a bit confused, s1 5/5 b4 lvling s2 right ? or aint needed s2 on terror

[dire moth]

server maintance ends when

[elder cedar]

ssania* latice

[shell dew]

I read the guide and everything but just to be clear.
lily wants alot of spd some hp def and little bit of eff res
valerian wants to be high hp some def and spd and effres if poss
fangus ssania wants high acc 150+ and then also hp def and if possible spd. is this correct build?

[dire moth]

S2 isnt needed but is nice cause it lets you spam cycle on doki as she becomes a sub dps there <<<< dot counts as debuff so skills that do this benefit from it

[shell dew]

this is what I derived from all the infromation

or can I just see ur build and try to copy it?

[dire moth]

yeah its rolling tank sub stats but if u ever get speed sub stats it doesnt hurt any1 or the build

lily and your buffers u just want speed

no effect hit no attack no crit

[shell dew]

Isnt lily my only buffer(I dont have freya)

[dire moth]

if u roll effect res hp def or % hp def its fine

^^^^ all good rolls

[shell dew]

u want a little acc on lily s3 no?

[dire moth]

but main goal is speed

nope

[shell dew]

oh okay

[elder cedar]

iirc doestn work on pve the skill cd debuff

[shell dew]

so spd hp def is like top priority and eff res if possible too

[dire moth]

yeah

effect res makes it to where u res the debuffs in inferno

^^^^ cause he has more debuffs in inferno

DEF down Wound

[shell dew]

flat hp/def are worse then percentage right?
but is it alot worse?

[dire moth]

no flat hp and def arent actually worse

[shell dew]

oh really?

I checked and it felt like similair tbh

[elder cedar]

which team did u pass inferno ? fang ssania, mio valerian? at work rn so cant scroll up to see if arleady talked bout it

[inland nova]

it depends on the base stats of the unit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7czpl62UgQ

[lethal atlas]

do you have any clips of runs with s. sania without lily? and with builds if possible

[dire moth]

Lily has low base hp compared to other SSR so hp% would do less compared to stacking hp flat than at least 1 or 2 hp%

Freya has higher HP base value so she would benefit more from hp%

[shell dew]

wait now that u are at the tab can I see lily fangus valerian ssania build

[dense meadow]

just to confirm, this works eve without lily for inferno and such?

[dire moth]

i was at the tab i was spamming to get in but now its under maintance

[dire moth]

yeah just need to be straight tank at that point

[dire moth]

ill show when i can

[shell dew]

tbh the base hp difference is something but not insanely huge. I feel like if u get percentage or flat both are fine right?

to min max I guess some units prefer one over the other

[dire moth]

SSania has 14k

[shell dew]

oh

I tohught u compared freya with liyl

[dire moth]

so yeah theres a difference

[shell dew]

14k is huge tho

[dire moth]

yeah i was

lol but hp flats dont hurt them at all

compared to other SSR

[dense meadow]

what does straight tank involve?

[dire moth]

def hp thats really it effect res is an amazing stat to get but i rarely see it on most the modules

[shell dew]

so lily spd -> hp/def -> effres?

[dire moth]

yeah

[verbal basin]

hey all, FINALLY pulled Fangus as the last SR I needed to unlock lol. So now I can use my S.Sania.
I know for Sania we go s1 skillups first. but what skills do I prioritize on Fangus? I dont have enough lattices to max him yet.

[shell dew]

valerian hp -> def -> spd/effres right?

[visual frost]

Who to 6 star first in sania comp? I have Lilly ssania, fangus, freya valerian and Holden

[elder cedar]

s2 for more follow up

after s1 so dot proc more consistently

s3 aint that needed iirc

just if u use timeweaver

[shell dew]

valerian hp -> def -> spd/effres
ssania/fangus 150+ acc -> hp/def (more defense if artisan) -> spd
is this correct I think fangus and ssania build are similair

[dire moth]

SSania > Lily > Valerian > Holden > Fangus ( freya goes in third slot if u use her over valerian but shes more consistent on hell 4 than inferno ) <<<<<

[dire moth]

yeah fangus ssania simular

[visual frost]

@dire moth Who to 6 star first in ssania comp? I have Lilly, ssania, fangus, freya valerian and Holden my Lilly is 6 star as the only one

[dire moth]

and yes this

[shell dew]

great thank you!

[round hawk]

maybe off topic but has anyone seem some success with a ssania etherena team?

[dire moth]

this @visual frost

[cloud mist]

why more than 100acc? im coming from other games, where this wouldnt do anything

[shell dew]

wait ssania fangus wants eff res too? i think if possible it can be nice but they want alot of other stats too

[dire moth]

pretty sure u need more than 100% unless its confirmed by devs

100% = base value anything over 100% = multiplier value

[lofty crane]

bosses have effect res

[dire moth]

this games effect hit works kinda like onmyoji if u ever played that turnbase

[tulip lark]

Ohhh good to know that

[dire moth]

https://tenor.com/view/ashura-asura-taishakuten-taishakuten-onmyoji-onmyoji-cg-gif-21852568

[crimson jackal]

No lily what to do

[tulip lark]

My sp Orochimaru I miss him

[dire moth]

slap in a tank

[tulip lark]

[cloud mist]

well im still missing fungus guy while having ssania and lily so.. still have to get "lucky"

[dire moth]

sp ottengu and yoto hime

[inland terrace]

@dire mothsorry were you able to take a look?

[shell dew]

what set do u put on ssania fangus (I think acc sets)?

[dire moth]

i check just woke up again after sleepin

[inland terrace]

no worries. Thank you

<3

[dire moth]

yeah its better if u use vale over mia but drop freya for debuffer if youre using valerine cause <<< this is 3 buffer and no dispell since you lose the mia dispell

multi hiter turandot or holden if u pulled him

or heinrich if u pulled