SSania guide

[patent pivot]

ah i see. its the same for inferno?

or do i need a dispeller

thank you btw for answering all these annoying questions

[dense meadow]

yeah for real, you´re awesome SSania, was totally lost in this game

Who should I use my target summon for, Rilmocha, Rosa or someone else? Is RIlmocha mandatory for dokidoki with this ?

[strange wedge]

No, Rilmocha isn't mandatory in Dokidoki, but it makes it much easier

[dense meadow]

whats the rilmocha replacement with ssania team?

[hallow lynx]

xiada can do doki and aurora if you are down for that

[strange wedge]

Btw just to clarify, youre not supposed to use SSania and Rilmocha in the same team because they are main carries who want the comp to be centered around them

For a SSania team on Dokidoki, wait for thread owner to share. He is making one

[frosty wave]

i dropped freya for valerian, much better

[frosty wave]

is this confirmed post-nerf? since Xiada can't steal buffs from dokidoki mobs anymore

[hallow lynx]

yeah she can

it was just the revenge buff from middle guy and only applied to manual/lily

[dire moth]

sorry got on valorant

yes u need a dispeller for inferno

[dire moth]

🫡 future ceo

[dense meadow]

is there a cap on effect acc %?

[vast skiff]

Wait, SSania is a nuker?

I thought she was DoT?

[frosty wave]

no but there's no need to stack lots of EFF, I personally run 100 and dont care. Sometimes 120 in case boss has sth like innate 15% eff res etc

[dense meadow]

interesting, so the right side modules shouldnt be all EFFECT ACC?

[vast skiff]

@wraith flare

[wraith flare]

Yeah we can clearly see Terra already got so many dot effects in it that's why it got nuked

But still it's so crazy

[vast skiff]

So SSania is like Acheron?

[wraith flare]

No she is more like kafka

Dot dps

[sick berry]

rengotsu has wil field btw

will*

waiting for them to patch it 🦓

[visual frost]

shadow sania can do well in doki doki ?

[wraith flare]

Nah

She is good in terramaton

She was good at aurora too but got nerfed

[dense meadow]

question, before i commit lattices n shit, this team can be played on auto? or its manual?

[frosty wave]

eff+eff+def/hp

[cinder cargo]

yes i still do sub 2 min doki 4 with xiada

[frosty wave]

[dense meadow]

goddamn ive been doing it wrong. thanks brother

if I dont have lily, this Dorothy is the replacement right?

so ssania-fangus-freya-dorothy-valerian?

[frosty wave]

yip

[dense meadow]

oh fml, i dont have dorothy the wisher

is there a replacement?

[fervent cave]

whats the secret behind doting inferno niconana? I've been failing a lot

[dire moth]

i am here

i was on valorant

[rapid merlin]

Do you already have a video of you making hell?

[dire moth]

hell on what

[dense meadow]

is there a replacement for dorothy wish if i dont have her or lily?

[dire moth]

yeah what units u using rn for comp

[dense meadow]

none yet i havent invested yet

[dire moth]

than use any tank or sustain

[dense meadow]

any ones youd recommend?

[dire moth]

rin helkid turnadot rahu

[dense meadow]

hell yeah thank you

[left shuttle]

How much investment tho? I've got Massa at s3 full and s2 lvl 3.

[cinder cargo]

if you're that far into massa you should max his s3 too, he can farm doki hell 4 perfectly fine

[halcyon shale]

Do you really need that much EFF? If your max S1 you have 100% and even one EFF % mod should get you over innate 15% eff res should it not?

[frosty wave]

yes if u dont have 100 your units will miss often

in pve

I've tested Aurora heinrich with 99 and 100, at 99 he misses so much lmao

it probably somehow scales with the chance of the skill itself, idk honestly

still no correct info on how this works

[halcyon shale]

Interesting. Started on Server 3 so still newer ( level 30 ish ), but rolled lily + SSania right out the gate so have been doing that.

What is the priority skill upgrade after SSania S1 to max? Have 4 more gold lattice right now and thinking Lily S2 to level 4 is probably the next most valuable bumping the twin trick turn meter for more Shadow activations.

I am also not a huge fan of Freya in the comp. I have her; and she is fine, but it definitely feels like she would be the first one replaced if something better came along.

[cinder cargo]

freya is great in the dot comp because of her s1 passive, along with s3 pushing teammates up and enemies down

s1 passive - allies getting buff, they get turn meter and when enemies get hit by a debuff they lose turn meter, and you're applying a bunch of debuffs because of the dots

[frosty wave]

lily s1, ssania s2 not needed

lily s1 is both perfect for ssania and pvp because of 15 more speed which is huge

I am not wasting 4 lettuces on any more ssania skillups, personally

maxed s1 is more than enough

lily on the other hand shines with ssania/diting

because she can proc assisst guaranteed=more dmg

freya is the best comfy pick

she can be fit anywhere

she's like kloss, but buffer

yes you won't see her in inferno (excluding inferno doki), but before that she's tier 0

and she doesn't need any investment

[halcyon shale]

Yeah. I will eventually do her S2 just so she can S2 twice in a row naturally with the cooldown though. I was talking about Lily S2 though; the Twin Trick increase.

[frosty wave]

nah do s1 first

that's up to you, of course

I prefer to build my units to scale into pvp

[halcyon shale]

Lily is insta banned everytime I pick her in pvp. But yeah I can see S1 being more valuable for everything.

[spice basin]

Has anyone been using holden with the dot teams? I mentioned yesterday that he could replace mandrew but with dispels he could replace a Mia also.

[dense meadow]

What about Aurora? Is SSania dead there?

[cinder cargo]

what do u think if the boss is immune to dots

[dense meadow]

i didnt read the news that theyd changed the boss until now

whats everyone running for aurora then?

[woven sequoia]

Top clear has him with dot team

What can I do to get this to work? Hell 4 btw

[halcyon shale]

Why is your Fangus slow? He should go before Sania so that she extends his dot too. Also you don't appear to have Sania's S1 maxed. Thats another big one.

[woven sequoia]

Why does it need to be maxed

Doesn't it only need 2

[frosty wave]

yes, but until hell 4. for hell 4 u need it maxed

[woven sequoia]

Bro I don't have enough gold lattice for that...

[halcyon shale]

It makes it so apply additional dot. So like your S2 will apply 3 ( and if fangus goes first, thats 6 ).

[frosty wave]

unless u wanna play manually, then u can keep it unleveled

[woven sequoia]

I need some for rilmocha too

Do I give fangus speed set then

[halcyon shale]

You should imo. Its an extra dot and that is never bad.

[woven sequoia]

Okay I'll have to get more acc mains on speed sigh

Idk what I'm supposed to do about dokidoki then

If I can't lvl up mochas skills

This game does not give enough gold lettuce 💔

[halcyon shale]

At hell 4 you should probably have ( or are able to get ) close to 10 of them without buying them.

[woven sequoia]

4 into lily already

2 into shania

Then I'm gonna have to use my other 2

[lunar gate]

What if I don’t have lily or freya or but have fangus and ssania who would replace mio ?

[torn mango]

Thought on this team for inferno ? I haven't invested on helkid yet
Hein , helkid , valerian , ssania , fangus @dire moth

[dire moth]

this fine assuming u using hein for immunity stripping

[fallow rivet]

I got Lily, where can I put her? Or should I wait for S.sania etc to form a team with her?

[dire moth]

can still use for comp as flex

[torn mango]

Alright thanks , also what's your thoughts on holden for the team overall ?

[dire moth]

need CC

[unreal grove]

Have you guys tried playing with ssania in pvp btw?

[dire moth]

yeah

[unreal grove]

Is she any good tho?

[dire moth]

yeah

[halcyon shale]

She is great all around. Summit is a little awkward since she could use some setup and they can ban you out of it pretty easily. I usually try to set up a team where if they let me have the add ons great but if not shes still fine as a dps character.

[frigid hedge]

For shell bosses you mentioned swap Lily for Rin. Would it be viable to use Holden instead of Lily/Rin?
For Terror I just cleared hell II using SSania, Fangus, Freya, Valeria + 1 random. Will Holden/Rin work in the random spot? Currently do not have Lily / Dorothy the Wisher / Mia yet

[dire moth]

yeah holden is alr for a flex

the flex slot really is just a +1 for whatever scenario youre doing

[frigid hedge]

thank you

[simple copper]

guys what do i use if i dont have freya

[dire moth]

alr out of my match

@simple copper use any turn bar buffer

or sustainer

[simple copper]

gotcha- also what set do i use if i dont have the strive set for fangus?

[dire moth]

12-8 bramble unbreakable

or 8-8 if u cant get 12-8

[woven sequoia]

Sania can you watch my video see if you can give additional tips on how to fix it?

[lofty crane]

@dire moth Ily you made me not sad after reading this guide when I saw ssania after wanting any other ml5 😋😋 regular sania is my favorite so i guess it was meant to be ❤️❤️

[dire moth]

yes

was watching yt

[woven sequoia]

Ty lemme scroll up for ya

[woven sequoia]

Here

[spice basin]

Please post our regularly scheduled link to the guide

@dire moth

[dire moth]

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[dire moth]

might be level or module level tbh for some reason your fangus looks really squishy

[woven sequoia]

hmm ok

is my turn order fine?

my modules are maxed

[dire moth]

yeah

turn order is fine

idk your units just seem a lot squishier than they should be

[woven sequoia]

ill show gear after i finish eating

[inner yew]

I got one shot like you too and have all module +12 and mostly +15

[woven sequoia]

yea mines the same too

[light holly]

I was trying to go back to the top of the page. Did anything change in the builds so far or is everything the same?

[dire moth]

he is tankier its just his shell is swapped out rn for amber

but yeah feel like your units should be tankier

[light holly]

Cool thanks I'll try to get some more gear and shells so I can get through Hell 4

[tawdry grove]

raahhhh shadow sania

[digital steppe]

u guys running this on inferno ?

i know u nede buff block

or strip

[patent pivot]

i can run ssania on inferno niconana but the clears are very inconsistent.. any ideas to make it more consistent?

[woven sequoia]

@dire moth

yea ur stats are defnatly a lot tankier

i cant get unbreakableto 8 on shania

had to break my set for fangus to get enough acc

[dire moth]

ah okay also might be star level @woven sequoia

[woven sequoia]

so i need to farm exp and star some up..

are all urs 58?

5*

[dire moth]

yeah star level does increase stats by a lot

fangus still 5*

freya lily both 6*

the only 5* hell clearer in here that im aware of is Kuron

[plush bluff]

lily s2 or s1 whats more important

[woven sequoia]

i see

[dire moth]

S1 unless u are running cycler

[woven sequoia]

are urs also maxed lvl at 5*

[dire moth]

yeah they level 50 at 6*

[woven sequoia]

too broke for this shit mann

[dire moth]

ssania the important one than lily

fangus can stay 5* not 6*

[woven sequoia]

still gotta invest ina doki team tooo

[dire moth]

doki team cheaper since u use 3 of the same units

[woven sequoia]

my doki team doesnt

[shadow panther]

Hello again, which character should I choose for the flex slot? I crossed out the ones I don't have

[calm ledge]

[plush bluff]

i run lily fangus s.sania freya and 1 slot is just a flex valeria rn might switch valera for holden

[dire moth]

Rin if u want to go into inferno and make inferno terror as well as inferno hoyan

[dire moth]

this is fine for inferno since holden does dispell

[bitter island]

What would the doki team be?

[shadow panther]

okok, i have to use this on rin? or she works without it

[plush bluff]

so if i keep the team that way i go for s1 lily?

[dire moth]

swap fangus for tsuyumi and your one flex for Chiaki the echo

[dire moth]

yeah

[dire moth]

better to invest in her

^^^^ aoe taunt

and shield value

[patent pivot]

does this team look alright for inferno terror? holden will dispel right?

[dire moth]

yeah that looks right

just know inferno hits like a truck

so gonna need some investing into stats and shells when u unlock inferno shells

[shadow panther]

okey, just in case, do you have a built Rin so I can see what you use on her?

[dire moth]

speed or full defense both work

^^^ speed means u are running aoe taunter for hoyen tank means terror

can use tank for both

[patent pivot]

is there a secret tech on how to adjust stats for ssania and fangus so that lily will always buff the one i want?

[shadow panther]

i have to use artisan right?

[dire moth]

yeah

[dire moth]

atk

[patent pivot]

so atk shld be higher on ssania right?

[shadow panther]

Thanks, I hope to have at least one of Rin's skills maxed out by next week so she can work properly

[dire moth]

yes

[shadow panther]

have a good night, ty for helping me

[dire moth]

sorry responded slow cause i decided to play league

than realized how stupid that was because ppl cant accept their fate

[woven sequoia]

Do I need to max shania s1

[dire moth]

no

[woven sequoia]

Can u do the thing for mobile so I don't gotta scroll again please?

A mod really should pin it atp😭

[calm ledge]

i mean there's a mod in this thread

[strange wedge]

@glass rock can we get a pin for the fast-travel

[glass rock]

what do you want to have pinned?

[strange wedge]

This, so mobile users can instantly go to the top

[strange wedge]

Thank you very much ^^

[merry violet]

Does ssania have better clearing power for threshold than other units

Thinking of getting a better farming team because im pretty stuck on terror rn

[dire moth]

yukkiko always coming in clutch

[dire moth]

yeah tbh

[lofty crane]

is there a mainstat list for all the characters

[dire moth]

no :>

but can try and make one

[merry violet]

Would it all just be tanky stats and 1 eff acc?

[lofty crane]

oh ok pls idk what to throw onto my sania for the 3 main stat ones

[dire moth]

2 eff unless u roll this passive

[lofty crane]

or well I guess that goes for everyone else

ooh okay say less

[merry violet]

The usual split will be 2 eff acc 1 tanky stat?

[dire moth]

yeah

cause inferno have higher base res

[merry violet]

Also how much gold lattice does ssania need

I know 2 for s1 but what about s2 and s3

[lofty crane]

does it matter between hp% or def%

[dire moth]

4 if u want it to be consistent 2 minimum 0 if substats are godly

[merry violet]

Lol

[dire moth]

consistent as in want to speed run stages

[merry violet]

Where do the other 2 go for consistency

[dire moth]

not u need 4 to afk

[merry violet]

Oh

How many to afk 😭

[dire moth]

yeah no krono afk farms with 0 latice

but also they have good sub stats

[merry violet]

Wow

[dire moth]

4 is more like i maxed out my S1 so i could nuke the boss quickly

[merry violet]

Ah ic

Hm

About s2 and s3?

[dire moth]

0

[merry violet]

Dang

[dire moth]

unless u choose 2

[merry violet]

Thats nice

Im sold

[fervent cave]

guide for inferno niconana?

[merry violet]

Can ssania clear doki or nah

[cinder cargo]

yes

[merry violet]

W

Okay im gonna build the dot team now

Time to start ig

[cinder cargo]

doki clear is gonna require s2 ssania max i think

they posted some stuff about it in the beginning of the thread

definitely need more investment than for terrormaton

[patent pivot]

inferno niconana is very inconsistent for me but, s1 maxed ssania, fangus, lily and valerian is what i use to clear it

[lofty crane]

what do u guy use for main set and main stats for the characters

[broken sable]

Yh same, gear is just not good enough units are not tanky enough.
Boutta max s2 sania tho so hopefully can use that to farm doki and upgrade all their gear

[cinder cargo]

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all the gear, substats, and shell passives are all there

[lofty crane]

ohhhh sick thanks I didn’t notice

I guess idk what to put on rin then

[craggy perch]

i heard this build got nerfed. is it still working?

[strange wedge]

It only doesnt work in Aurora, works everywhere else

CLearing Dokidoki needs high investment though

[craggy perch]

i see thank you

i assume we need def, hp, spd and accuracy on them

fungus and ssania

[strange wedge]

Check pin

All details including stats are there

[craggy perch]

aight my bad

[dry vessel]

I dont have fangus. Can any other char replace him or his a must in the comp?

[calm ledge]

Could use Obol, but Fangus just applies it quite frequently coz he has built in FUA.

[cinder cargo]

i'm gonna say he's a must

[dry vessel]

Im cooked

[patent pivot]

which one is better to farm drop wise? shadowflame hoyan or rengokutsu for shells? for dot team

[terse cypress]

wats fua

[calm ledge]

follow up attack

[boreal briar]

@dire moth How does eff acc work?

[cinder cargo]

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for eff acc

[hazy dagger]

Anyone got a terror hell 4 + clear with SSani without lilly?

what modules what shells for sania speed wtihout lily?

[visual frost]

looking forward for reset event gonna reset rosa, hellkid and gray and invest into dot tean and lilly

[calm totem]

Is lily a must for DoT team ? I feel like my account is cooked because i dont have lily

Every god damn hell team for everything has a Lily lol

[arctic spindle]

Can someone help me to build Terramoton Hell 3/4 team/shells? Thinking about S.Sania, Fangus, Obol, Freya, Valerian/Marvell(5/0/5 on skill ups), but Obol dies often here, Freya no skill ups and Valerian 3rd skill at Lv.2 only
Don't have purple lattices, but have 3rd gold lattices if that's helps.. 🙏

[sick berry]

Any tips for what to use for inferno? Don't have Lily tho

[hazy dagger]

We all asking yhe same questions

[sick berry]

yeah i cant survive the 2nd turn

[stable fiber]

I love when my account Is balls because I don’t have lily

[whole shard]

welp, i just pulled a s.sania and now am asking the same question rofl

[cinder cargo]

lily is not going to magically allow you to survive the 2nd turn

that's just gear or valerian s3 max

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has the comp, and replaceable units

[dense meadow]

i have 6 purple lattices and 6 gold lattices, what would be the best use of them for this team if i havent invested yet?

[stuck nymph]

Does fangus need the effect acc, his s1 doesn’t proc well

[calm ledge]

yes

[tulip lark]

Hi, who did pass Doki Inferno with sania ? With constancy

[hazy dagger]

If you can ss me a inferno nico nana / hell 4+ terror run without lily ill accept ur right

@cinder cargo

[cinder cargo]

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here's a video

hell 4 terror without lily

everything he's suggested as replacement are things he's tried or someone in this channel has tried and cleared hell 4

[gleaming saffron]

do I need to have S2 Max Lily for this build or none at all? also can someone help me build a team for aurora/doki bcs I don't have a lot of SSR cause I got 2 dupes for tiamat and khloros 😓

[cinder cargo]

but inferno nico, probably not without lily, inferno shell bosses are kind of overtuned

[hazy dagger]

do you know if thats a 5 star or 6 star andrew?

oh its 6 star andrew holy

[cinder cargo]

6 star

[cinder cargo]

tiamat for doki, diting for aurora

don't need s2 max lily unless you're trying to do hell doki with ssania dot team

[gleaming saffron]

thank you, time to reset lian later then

[stuck nymph]

For fangus beside s2 maks, for s1 does necessary to up?

[frosty wave]

necessary to max if you want consistent clears

[coral dune]

anyone have a shadow sania build i can copy? i wanna join the cult

[dense meadow]

anyone?

[coral dune]

ty

[dense meadow]

scroll to the top, build is right there

[frosty wave]

pretty shit substats, still works amazing

[coral dune]

oop sorry

[dense meadow]

lol dw i too had no idea

[frosty wave]

ssania s1 max, fungus s2 max, whatever left into s1

[coral dune]

i guees to the doki doki mine i go

[dense meadow]

i thought s1 was okay with just 2 lattices into it for ssania?

[frosty wave]

my next target

[dense meadow]

this build isnt for dokidoki btw, @dire moth is putting out the dokidoki build soon

[frosty wave]

no it's not okay if you wanna get the team into engame like inferno/hell 4

only works in manual play

[coral dune]

i mean to get the bramble + def set

[dense meadow]

what does this mean?

[frosty wave]

that u have to manual every stage

in autoplay the team will lose

[dense meadow]

without S1 maxed? or just in general?

[frosty wave]

ye, without s1 maxed

[dense meadow]

i see

why is that? id like to understand the mechanics of the build

[frosty wave]

because with maxed s1 she applies 2 stacks of dot instead of one

double the dmg

[dense meadow]

i see

[frosty wave]

in auto play, the AI is braindead, so your turns aren't perfect

with more investment, we cover that with more dmg and more investment into her

[dense meadow]

that makes a lot of sense

[frosty wave]

sry for tautology my brain is cooked

[dense meadow]

not at all ty for explaining, ill max her s1. sucks to waste stamina on gp pursuit without a 2x exp day

[frosty wave]

basically how it goes in auto:
ssania S2, Lily S3 - if your fangus goes before ssania (overlaps), which he should btw, ssania only applies 2-3 stacks of dot which last only 1 turn

if we have ssania s1 maxed, ssania applies same amount of stacks BUT they last 2 turns each, which means when we detonate them we deal double the d

Lily doing S3 instead of s1 is bad for us

we need to apply as many stacks as possible with her assisst

[dense meadow]

i dont have Lily 😦

[frosty wave]

oh

[dense meadow]

yeah lol id just be doing massiah lily on everything otherwise lol

[frosty wave]

well then just be giga tanky to outlast

[dense meadow]

hell yeah

[frosty wave]

even more reasons to max s1

[dense meadow]

what would be the 4 man pve team without lily?

[frosty wave]

obol

and sustain is freya/healer

[dense meadow]

wait whaaa so no fungus?

[frosty wave]

nah he's a must

i mean obol instead of lily for grim shells

[dense meadow]

so its ssania-fungus-obol-healer/freya?

[patent pivot]

im so frustrated with the inconsistency clearing inferno niconana

[frosty wave]

my hoyan team, just get obol for two more dot stacks since the fight is short

[dense meadow]

whats the minimum investment into obol?

[frosty wave]

this thing

nothing else

[dense meadow]

would i not use valerian instead of freya or healer?

[frosty wave]

you should use whatever plays better for you

we have different gears

[dense meadow]

hell yeah thats true

[frosty wave]

i think i tried freya and i just prefer more consistency and one-shot prevention

because i use lily and she does S3 instead of s1 on auto>less stacks

perhaps obol with freya is better

but yeah with valerian its 100% wr for me, with freya it isn't

in ideal circumstances obol applies 3 stacks of 1-turn dot, fungus applies 1 stack of 2-turn dot, ssania extends and detonates

pretty amazing

if it wasn't enough to kill the boss, fungus will finish the job with assissts

[dense meadow]

if im playing manually, what order of skills do i use for ssania?

and do i want fangus to go before or after ssania?

[steel nova]

should be s1 > s2 > s3 since u want to stack more and more dot

making sure after detonate, boss alrd ded

[frosty wave]

before ssania

[dense meadow]

fangus 5* minimum?

[craggy perch]

every character u using could be 5* atleast

4* are paper

[dense meadow]

roger and thanks

[dire moth]

Was sleeping but glad 2 see questions being answered

[dense meadow]

new reconfigure event coming soon!

2x drop rates event on juune 21 also very nice gonna max out ssania team lmao

[dire moth]

saw

[dense meadow]

yeah im taking back all those massiah lattices lol

[gleaming saffron]

If I just reached 35 and just started farming shells is it alright to farm full shells from mon to Friday then spam stabilizers on x2 on modules and gp outpost?

[dense meadow]

reconfigure event comes out tomorrow apparently

[gleaming saffron]

also would holden effect acc/def help this build for dispel/effect res down (for future inferno purposes)

[dense meadow]

@dire moth if i dont have lily, dorothy wish or mia, what would my 4 man pve team look like?

[dire moth]

SSania Freya Rin Fangus

[dense meadow]

hell yeah

[dense meadow]

and for rin are tere any minimum mandatory things?

[stable fiber]

@dire moth Can you recommend me a shell/endgame terror team? I’m gonna reset my rahu since I just pulled kloss today but I’m trying to plan out who else to build/reset for the future

[dire moth]

kinda just want to max rin as shes good in general

but at least her S1 or S3 since both do taunt

[stable fiber]

Oh I also have Dorothy and rin

[dire moth]

your units are fine as is SSania Heinrich Fangus Freya Valerein

swap heinrich for Holden unless its the tank Heinrich build

but if u choose 2 build holden of course

[stable fiber]

Ok cool thanks

Would I just drop heinrich/holden if it’s a shell boss?

[dire moth]

yeah most likely since theres no debuffing needed

can still use if choose 2 tho of course

[restive delta]

How do I go back up for the character building

Zzz

Can you pin it?

[dire moth]

it was pinned earlier

if u click on the pinned messages than click on the message link itll take u back all the way to the top

[swift robin]

Whats the minimum number of lattices investment to make this work for f2p?

[shell dew]

can u hlep me with my dot team by any chance.

[dire moth]

just post

[dire moth]

5 purples 0 gold

[swift robin]

5 Purples for fangus S2?

[dire moth]

yeah

kuron runs 0 gold latice rn and auto hell 4

but idk if theyve done inferno yet

[dire moth]

always just post if u have quesitons

[swift robin]

Would using 4 gold for Ssania S1 help alot? I don't have other SSRs atm to use it on anyways

Thrs a reset coming as well if I need it

[dire moth]

assuming F2P Means no Freya No lily

[shell dew]

My plan is to farm a little bit more of hell 4 doki so i got some mythic modules, then reset massaih and kazuya the reverie and make my dot team. And then 6 star diting to make my diting team is that a good plan?

[dire moth]

yeah makes substats less heavy due to clearing quicker

[swift robin]

Ok, thanks so much for the help

[dense meadow]

i just slap maxed my ssania S1

[dire moth]

dont reset kazuya as shes good on inferno Hoyan

[shell dew]

but I need to max fangus skills no?

so what is the best plan I currently can do, I am lvl 34 almst can farm hell doki

[dire moth]

no it just helps his assist rate but u should be getting your purple latice weekly from arena

[shell dew]

ye atm I do try to get them

[dire moth]

as for diting if youre gonna use diting in terror inferno youll need valerina and kloros

[shell dew]

well I was told it was used for sharon, but I am not sure about my gameplan now. I was thinking my highest priority is farming inferno shells as it is the best shells u can get. so I neewd to make y dot team

[dire moth]

yeah can use it for sharon thats fine

[shell dew]

after having some good shells I can then have a decent team to farm iferno modules. that was basically my plan.

[cinder cargo]

so this is unrelated to the dot team but more towards lingluo, when I fight aurora I notice that when I use s3 or s2 of her, the first proc heals for 0 then 2nd one actually heals, is this because of some debuff aurora gives? or is there something else going on, only have started happening on hell 4, maybe my hp is too low? or valerian is messing it up? 😕

[shell dew]

so do I reset massaih Igot 2 lattices in him, but if I reset him my doki team is kinda gone.

[dire moth]

keep 4 now

[dire moth]

bug most likely

[shell dew]

and kazuya?

[cinder cargo]

i could clear aurora hell 4 if the first proc actually made sense

[dire moth]

still keep

[shell dew]

alr, I will try to make the dot team without resetting and see how far I get

[dire moth]

reset 4 diting if u get good crit on him

but keep your doki doki for now

[shell dew]

wait who do I reset 4 diting?

[dire moth]

kazuya if u really feel like building him but keep for now till u actually get the gear for him

otherwise no point in reseting cause u will have legit no gear for him

[shell dew]

oh I see, btw shadow sania is used for terror right, so if I build diting isnt he only usable for sharon?

[dire moth]

diting useable in other areas

but just gets destroyed in inferno in most or some cases

without proper buffers of course

[shell dew]

who do I 6 star btw ssania?

[dire moth]

SSania Lily

fangus can stay 5*

[dense meadow]

for ssania, the S1 max is required for auto right?

[shell dew]

ssania or lily first?

[dire moth]

nah kuron has good substats and does auto with 0 latice

[dire moth]

doesnt matter gonna need both

[dense meadow]

whaaaa someone above told me i needed to max S1

[dire moth]

makes your runs more faster / consistent without the need of good sub stats

[dense meadow]

ah okay that makes a lot more sense then

[cinder cargo]

i auto a bunch of things without s1 max on ssania, but definitely plan on getting it before inferno

[dense meadow]

and for fangus, any requirements for mandatory max or anything?

[cinder cargo]

this is how i see it

you need at least one of them maxed

either s1 ssania or s1 s2 fangus maxed

[dense meadow]

okay i got s1 ssania and s2 on fangus maxed atm

[civic glade]

Does the holden, val, lily team variant work with this tank version of ssania/fangus?

[cinder cargo]

these are inferno terror clears

[hazy dagger]

i dont have lily 😦

[civic glade]

Most are speed

[cinder cargo]

you build both

[civic glade]

as opposed to the tank version in this original post

[dire moth]

most are speed yeah for cycling

but thats y u swap to BIS shells for the late game

[civic glade]

so it still works if you go full tank ssania + fangus with val, holden & lily?

[shell dew]

btw nobody uses hein for terror, is holden better?

if so do u recommend to get holden from banner?

[dire moth]

yeah it still works but my holden need better gear

hein is used if built

[civic glade]

gotcha

[dire moth]

holden is used if built <<< but also has elemental resistent

[shell dew]

but the leaderboard is all holden

[hazy dagger]

yeah if you watch the fight holden is key bc of his s2 delay

allowing to build the DOTS to kill boss in time

idk if heinrich will work

[dire moth]

heinrich can work just need to dispell

[shell dew]

do u use holden or hein

[dire moth]

dont have hein

and my holden not built enough yet

[shell dew]

I wont farm terror in the near future right? I think doki is more important for modules?

[hazy dagger]

Monseiur SSania meta changer, I have SSania S1S2max Fungus freya, what is the f2p cheapest lattice consumption units to beat hell 3+hell 4 terror ❤️

and its tank build im guessing

[dire moth]

just farm doki doki for gear

if u dont have gear how u gonna farm terror

[cinder cargo]

just cleared aurora hell 4

[hazy dagger]

What units for my situation above ❤️

[shell dew]

right that makes sense

[cinder cargo]

[dense meadow]

whats the team setup for dokidoki?

[shell dew]

btw the shells used on each unit is it updated?

[dire moth]

mb was responding to some1

[shell dew]

because all the shells recommended in the list was from sharon which cant be dotted

[dire moth]

Rin and Turandot

that would be 4 purple latice at minimum

8 if u want to increase rin S2 or S3

[hazy dagger]

Ok sry to ask, for the 4 minimum what skill investment for each? What set bonuses for those two

[dire moth]

turandot S2

rin S3 or S2 both are good probably S2 tho for shielding

rin tank
Turandot Speed

[hazy dagger]

❤️

[shell dew]

do u know my questionj too like how do I beat sharon it looks like he got the best shells for my dot team right? but he cant be dotted

[dense meadow]

is anyone still holding onto their target summon?

idk if i should use it now and on what

i dont have rilmocha, tiamat, rosa, mia, xiada or tsuki yo, borgne

[hazy dagger]

I would say rilmocha for doki comfort?

[shell dew]

I dont think rilmocha is a good choice

[hazy dagger]

yeah maybe not

[dense meadow]

i thought we could wind rilmocha with ssania

[hazy dagger]

Xiada for more flex perhaps

[shell dew]

rilmocha is only usable for dokidoki he is bis but u can also use other dps

[dire moth]

no only halloween shell

[shell dew]

SSania - Amber ( Bramble + TimeWeaver )
Fangus - Amber ( Bramble + Strive ) Sticking to alicorn is fine
Lily - Halloween ( Swiftrush + TimeWeaver ) ( yes once 50 can use codex Halloween better for doki doki though )
Freya - Lighthouse ( Swiftrush + TimeWeaver
Rin - Golden Lion ( Bramble + BattleWill )
Mandrew - Golden Lion ( Bramble + BattleWill )
Mia - Supernova ( WellSpring + Cure )
Valerina - Halloween ( Swiftrush + TimeWeaver ) ( Yes one 50 can swap for Codex )\

[stable fiber]

@dire moth Also what was the doki doki team possibly looking like?

[shell dew]

so valerian and lily wants halloween?

[hazy dagger]

S.Sania meta changer I saw a video and somebody briefly mentioned that for inferno he was going to attempt a triple DOT on codex to 1 shot the Boss, do you know if this is viable?

[shell dew]

sasani and fangus wants amber all are from sharon

[dire moth]

valerian is halloween if u dont got Max S3

^^^^ this just lets u rotate

[shell dew]

oh I got max s3 tho

[dire moth]

or u can do S2 Halloween resets S2

[shell dew]

what is best if u got s3 max

[dire moth]

think gigabyte

[shell dew]

and lily?

[dire moth]

still same

but can use gigabyte for inferno

or black flag for cheap

[hazy dagger]

https://youtu.be/z7n6W9Z2w3s?t=801 @dire moth time stamp, is what this guy saying viable?

[shell dew]

artisans, jackal guards codexgigabytes I saw people using these instead for the dot teams

[dire moth]

ill check cause this content creator is also where ppl got the SSania got nerfed ( not aurora got bug fixed )

[dire moth]

yeah but they have speed substats to cycle

tank still works but like i said my holden aint built

[shell dew]

but if u got lily s1 max idk if halloween is still best right

[dire moth]

yeah still cycles quicker

[shell dew]

what do u currently have on ur dot team what kind of shells?

[dire moth]

Lily SSania Freya Fangus and Holden once hes built

[shell dew]

I see I meant what shells do u have them currently on

[dire moth]

Amber Amber Artisan Halloween alicorn

[shell dew]

oh okay thanks I will copy

[dense meadow]

worth it to buy dupes for fangus in animus shop?

[dire moth]

feel like u just get from summoning

[shell dew]

after thinking I feel like diting is not wworth building atm, he cant be used for dokidoki and for terro I alr got shadow sania team, its only for sharon I think if I am gonna build him.

[hazy dagger]

I cheesed sharon i think yesterday or day before DOT was working

[shell dew]

well dot wouldnt work on sharon

[hazy dagger]

Yeah but it was thats the thing, it was bugged i think

[restive delta]

@dire moth if u have SSania Freya Lily and Fangus who is best 5th slot for inferno?

ah holden

LOL

[left shuttle]

I hope Lily is next after Massa banner.

[dire moth]

yeah holden if no holden turandot

[tall berry]

whats a good replacement for lily? @dire moth

for terrormaton dot team

[stable fiber]

@dire moth Do these builds seem okay to start out with or would you recommend any stat changes. I’m going to be getting LV S1 SS tomorrow and will be maxing fangus S1, S2

Levels will be raised and all

[dire moth]

check in a second

[dire moth]

stats fine fangus will still get one shot tho but think thats obvious

[stable fiber]

Yep 😂

[shell dew]

is it possible to distinguish between inferno and nightmare shells? I was told inferno has higher base stats but is that it?

[dire moth]

i mean ill max 1 out and see

think they meant to say rarity tho

[shell dew]

the rarity are both mythic

[dire moth]

yeah its true it turns out

[stuck nymph]

For farm hoyan we change to speed mode for ssania and fangus?

[dense meadow]

can anyone share their rin build please?

[eternal heart]

What would you replace lily for if you dont have her?

[dense meadow]

dorothy the wisher

[eternal heart]

So dorothy would go here?

[dense meadow]

hmm idk wgat it looks like with the new guy sry

think you need to sue freya though

[trail mauve]

"Non F2P Comp ( Not whale but if u have the SSR )
SSania
Freya
Lily
Fangus" in the slot of lily what alternative there are, i have the other 3

or i need all the 4 to run that comp?

[merry violet]

SSania
Fangus
Valerian
Rin
Freya

Will this comp work for terror or is it missing something?

[shell dew]

btw why are so many people mad about the ssania, it looks like ssania is one of the most key units for shells farming. he would've been broken if also on aurora.

[frozen panther]

About me team who

[warped tinsel]

At what point should I start investing in shadow Sania

[maiden kiln]

Does Shadow Sania need 6 star and can it still do Hell IV without skill ups?

[cinder cargo]

i did hell 4 with ssania 5star lvl 1 without skillups

[maiden kiln]

Nice! Was ur Fangus skilled up?

[cinder cargo]

ya he was

s1 s2 maxed

i think it's pretty important for consistency

[digital steppe]

Do we have an inferno guide lol

[open temple]

any lily alts?

[shadow panther]

Hello, i was reading this thread, has anyone used the DOT team in Doki Doki? Could share a video of a run or a picture of the team comp? thanks

[cinder cargo]

check pinned messages @open temple

[dense meadow]

S.Sania is working on the guide for it

Can someone please share their Rin build?

[shadow panther]

oh, okey, thx for the info

[cinder cargo]

ya i think from earlier conversation you'd want s2 ssania maxed for hell doki

someone cleared it but it requires much more investment than it would for terrormaton

[open temple]

soo If I'm getting this right, the point of rin and dorothy is for tankiness?

for the f2p team

[shadow panther]

but with the 3 resets from tomorrow we can get those resources(?

[cinder cargo]

rin for tankiness and dorothy the wish is for turn meter and skill cd reset

[dense meadow]

yeah if u dont have lily

Does someone have a Rin build I can see?

[dire moth]

dorothy extra turn for dot and its 100%

[open temple]

is it feasible to put freya in there

[dire moth]

rin is tanky and does atk down + Def UP + Shield

[open temple]

i see

[dire moth]

aoe def up shield to be exact

so it helps on inferno runs

[open temple]

this team can auto?

[dense meadow]

@dire moth could i please see the rin build you recommend?

[round summit]

Do we have vídeo of lililess dot team clearing the higher stages of shell farming?

[spice basin]

Can we all start to agree that CCs steering the dialog and general mood of this game has been a trainwreck

[cinder cargo]

ya it's awful

[spice basin]

Their speculation caused all the drama.

2x drop
Shania etc etc

[open temple]

i actually agree with these 2

shadow sania is still strong, and 2x drop is not exactly an obligation

[spice basin]

It was never on the event calendar. And they assumed it would come first week.

[open temple]

but oh well, its great that we are getting it

shadow sania thing was dumb ngl

[spice basin]

It's all dumb. This channel is the only sane place to be

[open temple]

lol

hats off to the OP

[spice basin]

Props to the OGs that built this place

[trail oracle]

Who should lily assist with her s1?

[open temple]

I dont know how long it will take for me to build the f2p team, but I'll try

[spice basin]

Im only missing Lilly and I'm really considering investing in doki doki to see if she can somehow replace

[strange wedge]

SSania

[trail oracle]

Thanks!

Just have to make sure she has more atk than others

[dense meadow]

For Rin am I looking for DEF % accesorries on the right side?

[shadow panther]

wait, holden works on hell 4 terror?

i got him yesterday

i pull him bc i dont have any dispeler

[cinder cargo]

ofc he does but he's not really needed until inferno

[shadow panther]

but if i didint lvl up yet my flex slot (like rin) and i have holden isnt better to lvl up holden instead of rin for example?

[stone river]

can ssania clear niconana ?

i assume it's a yes?

[dense meadow]

i just killed my first terrormaton with this omg it works lmaooo

[dense meadow]

destroys niconana

[stone river]

i'm gonna reset my characters tomorrow to build fangus and Ssania

what is the turn order usually for a Ssania team?

in terms of SPD

[open temple]

who are you planning to reset

[stone river]

Lian

So if i run Ssania Freya Lily Fangus and valerian, what's the ideal turn order?

[dire moss]

Can you pin the first message since it is hard to scroll all the way up?

[arctic spindle]

It's already pinned

[dire moss]

Thanks

Is there a sample ssania doki inferno run?

[bright turret]

Wait, did they fix DoT now?

[cinder cargo]

it was never broken

all the drama started was because of CC saying ssania was nerfed, when aurora during playtest 2 had immunity to dots, but the last one didn't, and they just added the immunity back on live

but ssania has always been good in terror, and some of the bosses, inferno prog is mostly dot team

[bright turret]

Well ok but in fairness

Aurora exists, and i kinda feel like it was unnecessary to DISABLE DoT against her

Why not just make it do 1/2 damage, or less

Like a resistance

Dunno

[hollow tiger]

Best replacement for lily if you have pretty much everyone else?

[lofty crane]

Dorothy I think

[warped rose]

They mean wisher dorothy btw, not dorothy

Which I don't think is a great option for her because only her CD reduction is helping

[grim wasp]

Does bramble/strive sania/fangus work in Inferno terra?

[warped rose]

Depends on who else you have on your team, but assuming you have the main ones I'd say echo chiaki is a good replacement for lilly

[grim wasp]

assuming you don't have lily for the assist consistency ^

[craggy perch]

does Ssania still worth investing?

[warped rose]

Yeah, that's what they said, they don't have her

[lofty crane]

I just said Dorothy cuz it was listed in the f2p section

idk I don’t have Lily I got every non meta character on the probability list it’s so sad

[grim wasp]

sorry i meant to add to my earlier message about bramble/strive tank Ssania teams without Lily

[lofty crane]

do u guys know what I should build on rin

[grim wasp]

Just want to know if anyone tested it on Inferno

[lofty crane]

I have to go fully f2p team…

[outer glade]

How much Eff acc is good for sania/fangus?

[halcyon shale]

From what others have said you want to break 100%. Someone said 90% failed a lot, but 100% was fine.

[noble elk]

Need more speed?

Jackal guard shell

This is for inferno prep

[steel nova]

yes, we see her big potential esp against boss or mob that is not immune to dot and preferrably has really high hp (thus u cant oneshot or really takes a lot of time to defeat by using ur traditional dps)

[wheat dagger]

Hi guys can u clear inferno w sania without lily?

[steel nova]

dot comp really remind me of when i used to play summoners war, clearing hall of water as well as endless tower (ember trek is basically etheria’s endless tower)

[craggy perch]

i saw that potantial too but i guess im whiffing cuz i have only %60 acc on her

[steel nova]

more module farming then

[steel nova]

so far… i couldnt recall

but we should get alternative to lily in the future eventho we dunno when since if the comp must have lily… ig it really is locked behind her (ironically dot comp is also locked behind ssania, LD char)

i’ve recalled some1 said chiaki the echo as alternative, but dunno how good or bad the performance is esp in inferno, let alone auto

[coral dune]

2 ld units gatekeeping a comp sounds like fun to get them

[steel nova]

now i feel better getting her… (i still dont have lily 😭) eventho dot comp should be viable for every1 thus not locking the char behind LD or apex animus as we call it in etheria

[noble elk]

I’m trying doki doki as lily replacement

You don’t need lily for any hell4 clears

[steel nova]

good idea, and yeah… another LD

[noble elk]

I just hit 50 to try inferno but I have only used ssania fangus lingluo and valerian for every other hell 4 content and 100% farm it

[steel nova]

[hybrid canopy]

dang i hope dokidoki works as replace im lilyless but i have 3 doki dupes

[steel nova]

[noble elk]

Will let you know mine still kind of sucks

[steel nova]

dont forget the speed tuning

[dire moth]

it will sorry was in vc with lots of ppl and farming shells so wasnt responding

[dire moth]

full bramble unbreaking

just ping me if u have questions

[lofty crane]

oktysm

[hybrid canopy]

Oh nice thanks i appreciate it

[dire moth]

[left shuttle]

Best shells for them?

I remember needing Halloween and I'm still farming.

[dire moth]

amber artian halloween

[left shuttle]

Halloween for ssania?

[dire moth]

^^^^ these the mains till u want to try super late game autos with speed << this can be inconsistent if using speed

halloween for lily dw about ssania

[left shuttle]

Oh okay. Gotcha.

[dire moth]

for ssania youll want codex if u want to swap off amber or artian

[left shuttle]

Uhm okay. I don't know how that works.

Can it be imprinted?

Still at 45.

[strange wedge]

No you just relevel one from scratch

[dire moth]

nah just farm for them pretty much cant imprint different shells

[flint zenith]

Hola, i read ur guide but i was wondering what could replace Lily. I see doki may work tho.

Also, holden worth using? something like ... Holden Vale sSania Fangus Doki?

[trail oracle]

Can I build mia for sustain 1/1/1 instead of val if I wanna save some SR lattices since I can only max marvel and fangus rn

[dire moth]

doki doki is fine holden is worth using

[pure phoenix]

@dire moth What do I need for Rin mainstats? Def and effect acc?
And as for Helkid should I use effect acc and Attack bonus?

[dire moth]

def eff ACC yeah

and helkid should just go pure atk for shield with a bit of defense

^^^^ go defensive tho if u cant survive first turn hit if youre not running buffers

[dire moth]

yes this is fine just know she wont be able to triple dispel

[pure phoenix]

Ahh I thought I need effect acc on him cuz of his stunts debuff

[dire moth]

cant stun boss sadly

[trail oracle]

Why does my auto target the left mob?

[warped rose]

Is this for terror?

[trail oracle]

Yes

[warped rose]

You can choose which it autos, but it just defaults to left, I think because it's the damaging arm, but no idea why specifically

[trail oracle]

Ohhh

You can do that

Thanks

[warped rose]

np

[pure phoenix]

@dire moth Is there any tips for sharon boss with ssania?

[dire moth]

not yet for now i let you know when i finished getting resources

[pure phoenix]

I think we need someone can help us immune debuff

[trail oracle]

quick question, how is this impactful for endgame farming?

[dense meadow]

@dire moth can this farm inferno without lily or doro wisher?

also, is what mains tats for Rin on right side?

[echo blaze]

Looks like I gotta max ssania s1… we do t think she’ll get nerfed again right?

And. Does fangus only need s2 maxed?

[trail oracle]

I see people building fangus 553, the top clear on my server has him built 541

[strange wedge]

I think direct buffs and nerfs in this game will be solely based on PvP, which is why it will only happen at the end of every RTA season

And SSania isn't particularly great in PvP, I think she'll be safe

[trail mauve]

chiaki is a must if you dont have lily? for pushing ssania fast? it can'b be swaped for freya?

[coral dune]

do all sania pieces need to have affect ac on them?

[dense meadow]

no, you want to be like at 100 effect acc or 120 for a boss with resistance to it

[coral dune]

so just defensive stats on all pieces and maybe some speed?

[dense meadow]

not speed you want to be tanky, see the top for priorities. you also want fangus to go before you

[coral dune]

ok tyy

[dense meadow]

does anyone have. Rin build to share? what are the main stats on the right pieces?

[echo blaze]

How do you even jump to the top of a post?

[dense meadow]

theres an arrow

[flint zenith]

top right arrow

[strange wedge]

If youre in mobile, use the pin

[dense meadow]

from the summon shop, only get perfect lattice?

[dire moth]

sorry was in valorant for terror yes dispel important

[dire moth]

yeah

[flint zenith]

who's ur best replacement for Lily? ik you said Doki would work but what would be optimal?

[dense meadow]

sorry, main stats for Rin. thanks sensei

[dire moth]

def tank counter or def with 6 piece def set

[dire moth]

any tank if no doki or lily

^^^ def buffer or attk debuffer

[flint zenith]

oh, so doki is the second best option

ty

[dense meadow]

so DEF % for main stat on all Rin pieces?

is it better than some HP% or Effect Res?

No Effect Acc main?

[echo blaze]

Which pin?

[strange wedge]

It will bring you to the top

[echo blaze]

Oooo ok

Also is there anyway to auto with ssania in the grim thresholds or are we still manual?

[rustic moth]

is anyone able to record this? I'd love to see how it works

the time being that short sounds insane to me

[echo blaze]

Hmmm when I click the pin it doesn’t take me to the top

[simple moon]

click what th epin takes you to! 🙂

[echo blaze]

Takes me here

[simple moon]

Hey all, asking for clarity since I just woke up and my reading comprehension is -1000. 😂

Since I don't have Lily, who would be the best SR to run instead of her? (I'm seeing both Dorothy and Rin listed in the F2P-friendly team; I'm assuming that's the fill for Lily? idk I'm tired lol)

Alternatively, are there any RBG SSR supports I could run?

Only SSR's I don't have are most Constant/Disorder (I have DokiDoki and Shadow Sania,) and Celince/Rahu/Hoyan/Lilith/Tsukiyo Mi/Holden/Khloros/Mia. I have all SR's.

[simple moon]

click the blue strip

that should jump you to the message that's linked

#1382334085288169542 message

or click that

[echo blaze]

Yooo that worked

Ty Arden

[simple moon]

npnp

Sometimes Discord is really finicky

[iron meteor]

This is pretty self explanatory but, when building SSania, I should also be building another DPS for stages that are DoT immune right?

[strange wedge]

Yeah

Generally someone that can also perform in Dokidoki

[dense meadow]

sorry i didnt understand this, do I get DEF% on the right side modules for Rin as the main stat?

[iron meteor]

I have Diting.. should be good right?

[strange wedge]

Err

No

His role is in Terror, which overlaps with SSania

He can also do Aurora but you'll be lacking in Dokidoki

[dense meadow]

Diting Terror, RIlmocha Dokidoki, Aurora Diting-Khloros, buuut ssania can do terror and dokidoki apparently

[iron meteor]

Ah... my next dps is Rahu

[dire moth]

alr done with valo game

[dire moth]

Def% HP% Effect Res% any of these or do Effect hit

[dense meadow]

thank you

[dense meadow]

last question, better to mix and amtch or go all def%?

[somber island]

Bro

[dire moth]

mix match unless u building her for shield

[somber island]

How do you let ssania not s3 in auto

[dense meadow]

thanks sensei

[dire moth]

she just gonna cast it which is why i dont latice the skill

cycling will make it more consistent if u trying to auto

^^^ speed build

[somber island]

Speed build better?

[dire moth]

with halloween on lily

[somber island]

I have them on def counter sets

[dire moth]

nah if u trying to cycle u try to cycle turn bar with buffs

[somber island]

Can manual everything but can’t auto anything

Fangus also on level 1 weapon bc he has too much attack

Lily buff fangus instead

Lily s3 too

[quasi tree]

Where is the first message

[somber island]

Wish we have a button to turn skills off

[dire moth]

level 1 weapon

maybe its just cause i use 1 tier higher than fangus

• stars

[strange wedge]

Pin

[cunning mesa]

Can you pin the builds and line up?

[shadow panther]

these team comps are ok?

i got today valerian

[dire moth]

yup

[shadow panther]

ty

[frigid crane]

Is there a replacement for lily on this team? I got everyone besides her

Does it work without her?

[grim wasp]

#1382334085288169542 message

This is for hell 4 though, idk if the same comp works in inferno

Also not sure if its viable on auto?

[frigid crane]

I got Mia SSania fangus freya to run this

Who's the best for last slot?

And does this work on auto? Because that video is manual

I also have holden for the dispel if he's better

[halcyon shale]

Lily

[frigid crane]

I don't have a lily unfortunately

Anyone else?

[warped tinsel]

Are they all runed on swift?

[neon garden]

oh glad this exist, was about to swift everyone

[dire moth]

can still run on inferno but need a fast dispeller

^^^^

or run valerine

swift on inferno works fine but at same time can go downhill inferno one of the ones where u can run tank or speed

and yeah u can run auto

@frigid crane ^^^^

i have uh been playing

league of legends

[lusty oasis]

if I dont have lily, can I play dot team to clear inferno? I have all SR box

[merry violet]

SSania
Fangus
Valerian
Rin
Freya

Will this comp work for terror or is it missing something?

[noble elk]

Is guide link in pins broken

[neon garden]

yeah I have valerian, but I'm lvl 31, will just dip in hell without Lily

[frosty dawn]

hey how i can build fangus

[stuck nymph]

for auto farm shell at hoyan this team are okay or need replace someone, ssania, lily, fangus, valeri
and using swift or defence set better, thanks

and why we need dispeler in inferno terror?

[cinder cargo]

inferno terror gets a 3 turn immunity buff at the start of fight

[stuck nymph]

for dispel, better mia or holden for inferno if running
sania, lily, fangus, vale, xxx

[dire moth]

yes

[dire moth]

this comp will work very well

[lusty oasis]

Who can I use?

S.Sinia, Fangus, obros are the ones I currently build

[verbal basin]

What do I do if I dont have fangus or lily

[lusty oasis]

Freya, beyontin, and valenren are the ones I am thinking

[dire moth]

can still play DOT fine tbh

fangus just gives extra stacks lily just cycles to u quicker

[dire moth]

do u have SSania im assuming u do but just checking cause u said u had a all SR box

[lusty oasis]

S.Sinia, Fangus, obros are the ones I currently build

Just miss lily

I hate that i did not get lily

In beta I got c3 lily in final I got c3 hein instead

[lusty oasis]

Yes I have S.Sinia, s1 lvl5

[outer scarab]

what dot team can i make with holden?

[dire moth]

i respond to your comps in a bit just in middle of a league match

just post pics of your units

[lusty oasis]

Considere any units can be done as resets are coming to us. Thank you for helping me!

[neon garden]

lily-less is hard

[lusty oasis]

u can tell from my account right?

lol

[neon garden]

No, we're the same

[lusty oasis]

1k usd but no lily makes me a noob

[dire moth]

Lily holden SSania Sania Dorothy the wisher or andrew <<< this the best u can do 4 now

[dire moth]

SSania Helkid Freya Valerina Fangus

u have good units for it tbh to run lily less

[lusty oasis]

is that for infero?

[dire moth]

yeah inferno clear

[lusty oasis]

Can i ask for a inferno shell team?

4 units

[dire moth]

yeah go ahead threads for questions so feel free to ask

[dire moth]

this @outer scarab incase u dont see

[lusty oasis]

for 4 units team, what should I use?

[outer scarab]

thank you

[lusty oasis]

and, @dire moth for inferno terra, should I aim at middle boss or left attack hand first?

[dire moth]

boss

[neon garden]

Is valerina, valerian?

[dire moth]

yes

[neon garden]

[merry violet]

Ok great thanks SSania meta changer

[lusty oasis]

thank you so much

[neon garden]

In case of no Helkid, who can be a replacement? Hell 1-4 teams only.

Kloss
Marvell
Rin(?)

[dire moth]

ill get 2 this in a swc

[brazen haven]

Rin Freya SSania, Fangus, valerie can i substitute rin using Mia for inferno? i want to auto

[dire moth]

ooo mb thought u had helkid rin ( red not blue )

[warped tinsel]

Do they just need to be 5 star?

[neon garden]

No no, I was just qouting that guys comp. Since I got 4/5 of it.

[dire moth]

ah okay

[dire moth]

6 star kind of for inferno runs

5 if hell

[dire moth]

4 unit team SSania Fangus Valerina Freya

[glass cradle]

Is Obol not viable for the dot team?

[stable heron]

Does ssania with her s1 at +2 even need eff acc?

If she has 100% proc chance, it's capped at 90% but can't actually go higher, and from what I can tell pve monsters don't actually have efr

[halcyon shale]

Yes.

Resists. You want like 100% Eff Acc.

[frozen panther]

@dire moth I haven't lily and valk

[cold obsidian]

@dire moth what can u recommend for a terror comp with these units (all SRs unlocked), no lily really sucks but i really want to try make ssania work

[stable heron]

Do monsters even have resists though? My gray with 0% efa lands defence break consistently

[halcyon shale]

They do starting at like Hell? At least that is when I first noticed it.

[stable heron]

Yeah but I'm doing hell 4 doki with a 0% eff gray and I very rarely get resisted (and that can be attributed to the 90% proc ceiling)

If they had any eff at all It'd drastically drop my proc chance, scaling up to -50% at 100% efr

[halcyon shale]

I have S1 maxed. Without eff I was noticing a good bit of resist on Hell 4. With 113% its now very rare.

[stable heron]

I think the easiest way for me to test the veracity of this would be to take gray directly to tera hell 4

it'd take hundreds of resets, but you can ballpark how much efr tera would have based on his purported proc chance

ssania could do the same at +2 I guess, if you have a big sample size

[halcyon shale]

You could yeah. Though I wouldn't put it past devs to have coding discrepancies between characters; especially the ones you are meant to play with in the beginning like Gray. Always best to test with the actual character itself.

[stable heron]

Maybe doki mobs have no resist, or very low resist, and tera itself has medium/high amount

hmm, aurora resist would be kinda low too if I consider how often my rosa lands speed down (although rosa hits 3 times so it's hard to be conclusive with that one)

[dire moth]

alr ii here

[dire moth]

its fine if no val or lily just harder is all <<< beyotin can actually be used to replace valk or sania if your sania is decently tanky

[neon garden]

Cmon, convert us all.

[dire moth]

just post your units @frozen panther

[dire moth]

this easy than if all SR

SSania Freya Fangus Valerina Turandot

^^^^ turandot for Dispell she can do 4 buff dispel

[cold obsidian]

damn

never would have thought about durandot

thanks!

[dire moth]

best single target dispel in the game

simply cause it does 4

[cold obsidian]

damn

[dire moth]

also can do -120% turn meter

shes a slept on unit

but is good for terror

[cold obsidian]

btw this works against the immunity in inferno right?

[dire moth]

also good for aurora

yeah thats what shes there for

[cold obsidian]

aite thanks again

[dire moth]

she can dispell immunity in inferno

[cold obsidian]

ur the best

[dire moth]

alr lemme go check the other past messages

[neon garden]

but ig Veronika is just better?

[dire moth]

league of legends be keeping me busy while i wait on energy

[wooden umbra]

hello sania users, just wanted to ask if auto sania comps work in inferno?

[neon garden]

[dire moth]

veronika is okay Valerina is best in Inferno runs

[wooden umbra]

with the coming reset I figured i might as well build mine since i am getting my lattices back

[frozen panther]

I haven't beyotin

[neon garden]

yeah , for inferno im gonna do valerian.

[dire moth]

Holden Freya SSania Fangus Sania <<< make sure sania is very tanky unless u have rin or turandot for Def UP ( can use Andrew however he requires lighthouse on inferno if u want him to be a tank god ) <<< Rin > TuranDot > Andrew

[quiet cape]

do i just run ssania / freya / helkid / fangus / valerian like the other guy? i heard you mentioned dokidoki was decent as a lily replacement but the other guy had dokidoki too and you recommended the above comp to him