Shadow Buff Terrormaton and Aurora.

[fallen inlet]

is CN speaking out as well?

[radiant talon]

no global version is different

[willow wraith]

trust is a huge point for CN players and if they feel they can't trust good bye atleast 50%

[radiant talon]

devs are different

[willow wraith]

idk i havent kept up with billibilli

sorry meant for icy

[radiant talon]

just like how genshin china is different from global

[willow wraith]

well its weird because CN hates beggers

but a deceptive company is a no go in CN

its like hoyo gets a pass becuase they dont care most the times, but wuwa gets a 1mil thread because anni

[prisma crow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlA5vwlq6C0

[willow wraith]

🙏

seanb clearly cares based

[weak basin]

Who is SeanB? I only see SeanW

[dim dove]

The thing is, if they keep playing these ninja updates, they'd lose lots of money down the line. Because, many will be sceptical about investing in any unit they release if they know the said unit could be slipped nerfed later.

It's counter productive to what the Devs wanna achieve.

Communicate and give your playerbase room to plan the way they wanna play, that's what makes gacha fun.

You take this away, and all that's left is EoS.

DEVs, don't bask in the euphoria your game is enjoying early on. If games like Tribe Nine could go EoS, Etheria restart isn't safe either.

Listen to your community.

[frail cape]

Seanb and gacha smack the only real CCs apparently

[weak basin]

Seii talked about it yesterday

[frail cape]

K add seii to the based list

[willow wraith]

its absolutely counterintergral, a game lives and dies based off the interest of it.

[rigid meteor]

Game team nowhere to be found?

no response to just at least stop the issue from escalating?

[compact barn]

it is weekend so probs devs do not work in weekend if any response it will be on monday

[frail cape]

Def not an emergency or anything 😆

This is fine.gif

[compact barn]

nah it is not

[quaint jasper]

This chaos all started on like Tuesday they had multiple days to promptly respond

[compact barn]

haha

[frail cape]

Yep, for the first few days it was "well it's like 3 am there, so give them some time"

[compact barn]

you see they started holiday after game released

[frail cape]

Got their bags and went on vacay

[willow wraith]

yeah except they've waited forever at this point, they give multiple nothing answers and wait for CCs to shit talk them

[quaint jasper]

Except for the hotfix guy he working 24/7

[frail cape]

Lmao

[rigid meteor]

diting will be the next hotfix

[quaint jasper]

Diting more like Quitting

[willow wraith]

xd

[compact barn]

oh diting def getting nerfed to the ground

[rigid meteor]

when EOS?

[radiant talon]

Soon Diting will be Dying

[compact barn]

there is no way they can allow SR be best dps they need to sell you those shiny new characters

[frail cape]

Them nerfing diting is prob the worst possible mistake they could make at this point

So it prob happens

[quaint jasper]

That's my redline. Cms if you're tired of my criticism tell the devs to nerf Diting so I can be free

[frail cape]

Same

[compact barn]

the moment diting is nerfed I am out

[radiant talon]

Why small devs like this always fck up good games?

[quaint jasper]

Sad thing is even with some people charging back the game still has that launch honeymoon so when the monthly report comes out and they see they made a lot of money they'll think what they're doing is good long term

[terse yoke]

saw the $ sign

[fluid carbon]

Every gacha companies

Ok we got the bags

[quaint jasper]

I think I saw someone say sensortower already has them past a mil and sensortower doesn't include pc sales

[compact barn]

every gatcha company ever

[quaint jasper]

So they made some cash so they think this is the right direction

[radiant talon]

july revenue = 0$

[terse yoke]

but the thing so some devs are careful with what they do

ww for example

[radiant talon]

imagine gachasmack going to quit if diting gets nerfed

[radiant talon]

Kurogames are pretty reasonable

if a big CC quits your game. then youre screwed

[quaint jasper]

Half my guild members from launch are gone and replaced with randoms who don't talk

[radiant talon]

same

its hard to get union points now

[fluid carbon]

Just join lunaris

[compact barn]

I think it is not devs but investors that ruining game, in most cases investors push games to get investment back as fast as possible and with solid % up for what was invested. That is just that kind of sad reality of those asian games most of the time.

[fluid carbon]

They have literally 13+ union comp and semi-comp for casual

[radiant talon]

gladly i havent spent any money yet

[quaint jasper]

Appreciate the offer but I'll stick with mine since I made it for me and my discord community

[fluid carbon]

Fair

[quaint jasper]

I fell for the rebate 💀

[radiant talon]

actually if a game says "beta rebate" its usually a scam xD

rugpull

[sick epoch]

💀

[radiant talon]

RIP

rebate is a cash grab

[quaint jasper]

Same thing kinda happened to e7 too at one point we got a ceo who worked at netmarble and during his tenure a lot of crazy stuff happened

[sick epoch]

no reset event

[radiant talon]

i never trust rebates on games when its beta

[radiant talon]

netmarble is a shit company

[quaint jasper]

Netmarble guy did a lot of damage to e7

[radiant talon]

never play netmarble games ever. dont waste time

[quaint jasper]

For the first few months revenues did go up then people got tired and the sales dropped and stagnated due to all the rollouts and bad ideas

That'll happen to Etheria if they don't get their act together

June, July, hell maybe even August will look good revenue wise. But if they don't change by September, we can only take so much

[radiant talon]

Dislyte is the most closest game, that thing did this kind of crazy shit decisions

money is not always everything xD

unless its a rugpull

[compact barn]

yeah I was there when Netmarble guy joined game started becoming worst and worst with each patch.

[quaint jasper]

I mean look at the fast food franchise Whitecastle, they slowly grow and slowly get more revenue while Mcdonalds expands so much that when people are suddenly eating less Mcdonalds they take a massive hit due to having to run all those restaurants and while still making money are stagnating in places

Whitecastle is run by a descendant of its founder I think so it's not trying to please a board of directors and shareholders all the time so they can afford to be slow and careful with their growth

Etheria trying to run a McDonald's strategy when there's already dozens of other gachas at Mcdonalds level

[willow basalt]

Lol I like how the original point in this thread escalated into chain after chain, rail to rail.. different people pop up everyday. xD At this point there's just too many people frustrated, that can't be ignored so easily.

[static orbit]

https://youtu.be/0XqOqZ_UsXI?si=R0EZJTqkg4NTgmzW

This is what y'all been waiting for.

[magic wind]

Yeah all the content creators are getting into this

[static orbit]

I'm mostly watching the ones in the CC program and not the randoms farming for views.

[steel ravine]

seanb also made a good video about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEPqEEE7O1g

if the devs still double down on the "monkey no see" tactics I will jump the ship

[limpid turret]

My bank says that because XD gave vouchers.. I received the in game purchase and am not eligible for a chargeback. Is there a way to bypass this?

[steel ravine]

I think different countries have different policies about it. Pretty sure on mine the only way to chargeback is to claim that the purchase was made without my consent (almost sure that claiming that the product I received is different from what was announced is not covered here)

EU policies are much more consumer friendly afaik, but not so sure

I think paypal has their own chargeback system too, but also not 100% on it since I rarely use paypal

[limpid turret]

I see

[limpid turret]

I did say that gameplay was different from what was expected but their focus was on delivery of purchase. Which is the vouchers

[amber hare]

PayPal’s weird. I couldn’t access my first account because of all the email login bugs so I claimed back the little I’d spent. PayPal refused the claim and wouldn’t refund but then emailed me vouchers of the same amount I can use on other purchases through PayPal 😅

[terse cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XqOqZ_UsXI

[frail cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfQ5qn_5UKA

[mossy tartan]

https://youtu.be/ZlA5vwlq6C0?si=qASyy-2mU_viNwaf

[stuck delta]

i posted this days ago lol

even ping c for lulz

[stuck delta]

why is this guy giving us a life recap in the first minute

what a weirdo lol

[vestal parcel]

the gacha smack video copy of the sean b video copy of the volkin video

[amber hare]

The Content Creator Human Centipede 🤣

[vestal parcel]

bro they just caan't stop like we understoood that this was a bad move they are all doing the same shit

[stuck delta]

its honestly amazing how tone deaf the devs are though

[vestal parcel]

at least since we are not past the first month i can wait to see what they will say about it

[dark comet]

en my ex gave me an answer when I asked 'why' after we broke up —
these developers, on the other hand, still haven’t said a single word.
It’s honestly unbelievable.

[vestal parcel]

past that it's gonna be very hard to keep up with whatever they are doing

[polar sluice]

They are pressuring the devs to respond as they should

[amber hare]

Having just got to the Inferno stages. I now want to build Shadow Sania even if she won't work on Aurora 😅

[vestal parcel]

she is much better than my lian team so for sure i''m using her for terro

[odd berry]

[amber hare]

She clears Terra, Hoyan and Nico.

That's great even if you have to use someone else for Aurora

[rigid meteor]

Wait does dot work on sharon even though she has will field that's supposedly make her immune to dot?

[vestal parcel]

it's maybe true but at this point even if they give a valid reason i think that this will not change anything to the fuel on the community

[sage kelp]

I don't know why people watch paid shills for gacha game reviews. I get the content creation hustle but holy this dev/publishing company are making PR nightmare decisions.

[vestal parcel]

i don't know but fangus work against sharon

[sage kelp]

I'm just waiting for them to release new units with OP kits, and then they nerf them once the banner ends. This is what the last few "balance/bug fixes" is leaning towards too.

[vestal parcel]

it's so shit because they really can just gives everyone 5 perfect lacttices xp etheria coin 10 pulls and an apology and it would be ok but they somehow did not get it yet

[swift falcon]

It feels like they've kind of given up on global playerbase (maybe revenue was lower than expectations). So they don't want to give compensation to global and have it be expected when their last revenue hope (CN) eventually launches. Since these changes will already be part of the base game when it launches there.

[dark comet]

Bro how can you make money if you pissing people on day 4 lmao

[swift falcon]

They also front-loaded their revenue with the rebate thing.

Not having budget to make a new video and having to post an outdated information video from January for the first new banner character is pretty suspect.

[sage kelp]

My biggest issue with this is that they had a LONG beta to iron things out before launch. They knew about all these team compositions. Waited for people to build the teams. Then buff PvE under the guise of bug fixing and indirectly nerfing units without a character reset at the bare minimum.

[vestal parcel]

i don't think they given up but i think that they are slow

surely they have some problem with publishing or someshit like that

i hope

if not fuck them

[swift falcon]

"If we nerf their characters, they'll totally spend to buy lattices from the shop! We are so smart businessmans!"

[solar horizon]

as one of the people who has cleared inferno terror, this game is way too hard lol

[vestal parcel]

it's definnitely hard but i feel like except for the pvp the game is pretty fast wih the progression

i remember getting stuck for month on raid

[sage kelp]

I mean why make PvE prog harder? The whole niche of this game is PvP/RTA. But like you don't even have enough resources to build teams/units cause of the stamina gate. People are basically going to be using their PvE units for PvP for months.

[vestal parcel]

it was a bit the same with all the others pvp rta type of gacha released before this one to be honest, i'm not saying that it's good but i kinda expected it to be honest

[sage kelp]

They had unlimited stam refreshes though through gems, and ability to buy stam pots directly from the store (E7 liefs). Game gates us at 10/day. The events in those games gave out a ton of stamina as well too. (Epic 7, Summoner's War)

[polar sluice]

because there is no valid reason to change characters viability in a gacha game and offer no compensation

people spend big money and scarce resources to build characters

and most of these 'bug fixes' arent even bugs they are just game mechanics that helped players

and were changed

[vestal parcel]

they should give compensation but even with that i think for the community it's not enough

[steep marten]

lol this is the new male to female gender ratio

i hope the mods dont notice

[polar sluice]

its only not enough because the longer they refuse to communicate the worse the backlash gets

its a mess of their own making

[vestal parcel]

yes the longer the worse but it's already to bad that's what i'm saying

[polar sluice]

I mean its never too bad

until the game eos

they just need to address it asap

[fallen inlet]

I hope this game doesn't eos, i love it

[terse cypress]

https://youtu.be/ZvctcqU1UFU

[lethal escarp]

at this point, the game feels like a newly released NFT game that's about to rugpull next week. especially with this kind of Staff presence in Reddit and Discord. Incompetence? Scummy tactics? or maybe they're just sick. Tune in next time on the next episode of Dragonball Z.

[rich granite]

Good to see all these CCs finally making videos after days. We need something to happen lol

[polar sluice]

I feel like this take isnt constructive right now, until the game is dead you're only spiting yourself by spreading rhetoric like this.

[terse cypress]

I'm just excited what's their response gonna be

[fallen inlet]

I hope they give a response over the next 5 hours while im working

[terse cypress]

Eos or redemption, their choice

[fallen inlet]

They have a great foundation to work off of, and they were doing so well

[vestal parcel]

fair enough

[fallen inlet]

This was gonna be my star rail killer

Too

[vestal parcel]

did you play any nft games ?

[fallen inlet]

I'm scared it's gonna pull a tribe nine please no

[vestal parcel]

for me this game was never gonna be an hsr killer, hsr killed themselves at panacony for me

[astral sinew]

It is so sad because I was thinking about stop buying things in star rail and use that money in Etheria. But yeah, I m using it in wuwa

[fallen inlet]

I mean like my new game to play instead of hsr

[vestal parcel]

ahhh mb

[fallen inlet]

I don't wanna sit through another 8 hour story

[lethal escarp]

"Spiting", it's called Sarcasm buddy. Have a little bit of sense of humor will ya. You want criticism? I've been playing Gachas since 2018, played through a lot of releases including Hoyo's, Square Enix's, Hypergryph's, nikke, netmarble gachas, etc etc. This is literally one of the slowest devs responded in games like these. We're 10 days in, you're supposed to be putting out fires 24/7. Majority of successful gachas today did this. There we go, had to pull it out of the bag. I'm not spreading a rhetoric, I'm just as concerned as you since I like this game.

[fallen inlet]

It's all good I should've been clearer with what I meant lmao

[lethal escarp]

🫶

[vestal parcel]

it's a shame i would have recommended you limbus morimens or reverse 1999

[fallen inlet]

Look at wuwa and their dumpster fire launch

[lethal escarp]

At least those kuro pricks responded in Discord and reddit, I've been lurkin' around, man is it quiet. I mean, not literally but, nothing's being addressed LOL.

[fallen inlet]

The biggest problem with hsr is no skip and summarise button, do these games got that?

[vestal parcel]

yep

[fallen inlet]

Ikr, they responded to criticism and turned it around

[lethal escarp]

Exactly, that's why i love this game

[lethal escarp]

TRUE.

[vestal parcel]

but if you skip the story i think reverse it's not for you

[fallen inlet]

Etheria has got everything i want from Hsr

No 50/50

Loadouts

Skip button

[lethal escarp]

Sad thing is, this game's Discord and Reddit has been dead quiet from the devs side, it's insane. Rugpull type of vibes tbh. Just my opinion, not accusing of anything. lol.

[fallen inlet]

Plus new units go to standard banner

[lethal escarp]

hell, at least tribe nine and black beacon had the audacity to say "We're working on a possible fix soon", while the launch dramas were on-going LOL

[vestal parcel]

i mean it's usual with chinese devs in 2025 i guess

[fallen inlet]

I hope not, I spent like 70-80 quid last night

[lethal escarp]

Sadly.

Imagine, CCs had to make vids to wake devs up... that's a clear sign they're about to drop the ball or dropping the ball as we speak, unless a magic announcement comes out today LOL

sheesh

[lethal escarp]

Yeah i hope not, game has huge potential

[vestal parcel]

i think maybe monday or tuesday they will respond

"hopium"

[fallen inlet]

Like i said they have a lot of potential with this game

[lethal escarp]

fingers crossed dont drop the ball pls, jesus christ. lol.

[fallen inlet]

Like wuwa did with frustrated genshin players

They could have the same with frustrated hsr players

Like me for example

[lethal escarp]

frustrated epic 7 players too ngl lol

[fallen inlet]

Is epic 7 that bad?

[weak basin]

Dw there will be a bug fix for that soon

[vestal parcel]

i never understood in gaming why devs don't apologies and explain themselves more often with issues like how those devs think riot games get out of someshit everytime ?

[lethal escarp]

not really, but if you're a frustrated epic 7 rta player then well, come 'ere but get frustrated once more, NOW IN 3D! haha

[vestal parcel]

not that bad to be honest

[fallen inlet]

Ive been wondering whether I should give it a try

[vestal parcel]

but the artefact farming experience to catch up can kill you in game

[lethal escarp]

For PVE or PVP? - pvp meta is atrocious right now that's why people jumped ship here lol

[fallen inlet]

Pve mainly

Pvp for this game

Lmao

[lethal escarp]

Epic 7 pve is meh LOL

they even streamlined it on the latest update since they know it was slow and boring af lol

[fallen inlet]

Okay then lmao, I'll probably go try one of those other games

[lethal escarp]

PVP is nice though, if you're not going full sweat

[vestal parcel]

you can try summoners war too if you have never tried

[lethal escarp]

oh yeah true

i'd rather recommend SW than Epic 7 at this point

[fallen inlet]

Okay I'll give that a go

[weak basin]

Sw you can reach mid game within a week

[lethal escarp]

a lot of content to catch up lol

[weak basin]

After that it’s just grinding runes to catch up

[lethal escarp]

yeah
SW catch up mechanics are really nice.

[vestal parcel]

i don't recommend raid anymore because this shit is too much pay to win nowadays

[lethal escarp]

Epic 7 has these "organic" gates so to speak, example, you can't farm Wyvern if you don't have a decent team or built certain characters properly lol

[fallen inlet]

I saw how much raid was sponsoring people and that set off alarm bells in my head that it was trash

[solar horizon]

yeah but theres like 20 teams for wyvern

[fallen inlet]

Normally games that sponsor like crazy are trash haha

[lethal escarp]

I mean I said that in comparison with SW btw, not really a bad thing 😛

I like Epic 7 progression

[solar horizon]

if you dont have shadow sania in this game what do you even do. Just rng 50% clear rate when you lose stam every time?

[subtle viper]

Get gud

[solar horizon]

even if i decked out my inferno terror team fully and got a furyedge shell i think it caps at like 70% winrate lol

[weak basin]

For inferno?

[lethal escarp]

use your credit card to full max your messaiah, lily and 3 other SSR supports lol

[subtle viper]

1 stam won’t kill u. If you retry and dont exit the fight completely it take no stamina

[lethal escarp]

otherwise, yeah, flip a coin LOL

[weak basin]

The Grandy way

But grandy still pulled out ssania for niko

[terse cypress]

Is it time to go back to E7

[weak basin]

It’s so joever

[solar horizon]

grandy needs to use ssania for terror too

[vestal parcel]

get ditting and burst in everything

[subtle viper]

Use holden for terror. I’m happy they banned sania

They prolly did that so Holden can sell aswell

[solar horizon]

you need both lol

[subtle viper]

What they did isn’t a problem at alll. It’ll only be if they don’t give reset

[weak basin]

Dw grandy will find a way

In grandy we trust

[subtle viper]

It’s their game they can nerf what they want when they want

Issue is the compensation which hasn’t been issued out

[queen patrol]

Careful. They don't take lightly to reasonable takes around here.

[vestal parcel]

who is grandy btw ?

[fallen inlet]

I get that but like they didn't tell anybody lol

[subtle viper]

You don’t need sania. She’s a dot

[subtle viper]

Yea that’s the issue

[weak basin]

Look at arena leaderboard

[vestal parcel]

i only know this guy with maxed fangus

[solar horizon]

for inferno terror the holden team needs valerian so you need to do enough damage in your last 3 slots

[subtle viper]

Was still a good idea to nerf the dot team I just don’t know why they didn’t do it pre launch and waited

[amber hare]

Ain't that the truth lol You enjoying the game dude?

[queen patrol]

For sure

Ton of fun

[fallen inlet]

I'm still gonna build DoT at some point, i love that team in HSR

[vestal parcel]

and also why did they not make a big announcement in game to say that they will do it no matte what

[subtle viper]

Bruh someone sabotaging them from inside

They don’t even have a help channel and games been out for more than a week

[weak basin]

Dw it’s just a visual bug

[subtle viper]

I’ve been searching for borgne guide for 1 week +.. a good one

[vestal parcel]

it's because of the taiw**** worker at the office xdd

[subtle viper]

No one knows

[amber hare]

#ask-staff

[vestal parcel]

it's a joke guys i'm not racist

[fallen inlet]

That bit makes me laugh, It clearly wasn't a bug, they added a specific counter to it which makes it so funny

[subtle viper]

I hv to ask for help chat? Ggz

[subtle viper]

That one was scummy cl

Yea they can remove it. But it wasn’t a bug. Take the fault and drop a 20 pull..

[fallen inlet]

Ikr it's so annoying, like i said I loved DoT. What do devs have against DoT

[subtle viper]

Dot still works on terror

[fallen inlet]

Thank god

[subtle viper]

No?

They nerfed lian team on terror. Didn’t hear about dot on terror nerf

[fallen inlet]

I meant for the aurora boss

Lol

Sorry

[subtle viper]

They did that so Holden can actually be used most likely

[vestal parcel]

didn't they just had more hp to terro ? i don't think the gave him immunity

[queen patrol]

Inferno terror gets mopped by S Sania

[subtle viper]

No one would use him if a free ssr 6* max skill and full constellation unit was already clearing it

[queen patrol]

You know, the "unusable" hero according to the hard stuck silver players here

[fallen inlet]

Who are other good dps for Aurora?

[subtle viper]

Way it should be

[subtle viper]

Go get ur self a Rosa buddy

[fallen inlet]

Got one haha

Thanks lmao

[subtle viper]

Also good they nerfed it. The whales were moving to fast

The gap was getting too wide for a f2p friendly game

Not even a half a week and ppl who spend money can counter the only meta

[fallen inlet]

I am hoping to get a rilmocha soon

I need a good dokidoki dps

[subtle viper]

Use Rosa

[fallen inlet]

Okay lol

[hoary surge]

They are just expressing their own concerns and the playerbase's concerns for the game and utilizing their platforms to vocalize those concerns. They like the game and wish for the devs to do better, there's nothing wrong with multiple CC's bringing awareness to something that clearly needs to be addressed

[vestal parcel]

i can uderstand that but we know them for other games too, we know their community and their content so i dunno man

they are the same that make 56 videos about powercreep in hsr so

[weak basin]

Only one you could be talking about is gacha smack. Even then he barely talks about it

[vestal parcel]

mtashed was a bit of a drama farmer too when he was more active

[weak basin]

?

I mean you’re free to have your opinions

[vestal parcel]

i guess i'm a bit unfair against sean b and volkin

[hoary surge]

I'm not too familiar with these CC tbh so you could have a point regarding other issues

[vestal parcel]

they like to drama farm to make money but i bad mouthed seanb and volkin they are legit

[swift falcon]

They only really started caring once their communication line straight to the devs got cut off.

[primal hare]

I feel like they gave the devs time to respond, the devs haven’t, so now they are making a video about it. I think that’s fair. None of them dropped vids immediately when these issues were popping up.

[swift falcon]

Maybe if they had, the devs wouldn't have thought they could just wait it out.

[primal hare]

Also true haha

[quaint jasper]

Seanb the goat remember he was the one to get actual clarification on dupes working in rta and his video on that kicked off the whole dupes do work in rta fiasco

[weak basin]

Nah, Sean and Volkin have been waiting for dev to respond. Seii has been talking about it for a few days now

[swift falcon]

It's so funny how there's so much we only know because of one little slip

(also includes the "minor" shadow hp buffs to bosses from a single discord comment)

[stuck delta]

holy shit are inferno drop rates just this bad or are they disabled for 3 slot shells lmao

[swift falcon]

rates aren't listed anyway, so they could easily have been adjusted with everything else when they wanted to slow down progression

and if not, they've just created a culture of paranoia so everyone wonders about every bit of RNG

[stuck delta]

yeah im starting to wonder if its even enabled lol

[quaint jasper]

Is this why I can't get swiftrush to drop lmao

[swift falcon]

mythic shells too

[stuck delta]

i need someone with a screen shot of a 3 slot exotic to know they even exist

[quaint jasper]

Me: Ayo I need dps gear
Terromatron: I gotchu fam
10 runs and it's all cure and wellspring

[amber hare]

This reminds me of when I want speed gear and all I get is bramble 🤣

[celest granite]

got 10 out of 1400 stamina. Soft lock atm, dont waste ur stamina

[flat anchor]

We need some kind of item that atleast lock one set or enhance the bonuses

It's so frustrating trying to get 3 of the set you want

[celest granite]

basically not possible except if ur giga lucky or spent 5000 stamina on the same boss

5k stam would be average atm tho

[versed kettle]

EOS!

[stuck delta]

better luck than me, im at 0 out of 900 stamina

good to see it exists tho

and you can confirm that you can imprint that @celest granite

[regal hare]

EOS GUYS

[celest granite]

yes we can

thank god

xD

[supple wind]

What’s the context behind EOS

[versed kettle]

STOP USING AI SLOP AND SHADOWNERFING

EOS SPEEDRUB

[frail cape]

Look over all the feedback threads, suggestions, etc. The issues are hard to miss

[winged orbit]

Mods be like “yeah this is the worst thing ever but don’t talk about it” lol

[versed kettle]

LMAOO

eos ai slop game

[keen wadi]

if you set the game in spanish language you can see that

[versed kettle]

BUFF DOKI DOKI!

[nocturne cove]

LOLL frl

mods doing their job can't blame em

[trail spoke]

i’ve read what c said few days ago, i dont understand that stating shadow sania was “too strong” while she and her dot team could only work in terrormaton, aurora, and some other pve content while being an LD, apex animus and also not really good in PvP while even Diting, an SR LD is v good in not only PvE content, but sometimes PvP having the role burst dps, so like if player got ssania, they wouldnt feel much rewarded compared to other SSR LD who are more PvE and PvP friendly?

[sudden kelp]

Yes, and they release events where S.Sania can't function

[regal hare]

It is with a heavy heart that we announce the End of Service (EOS) for Etheria: Restart. After careful consideration, we have made the difficult decision to discontinue the game. We want to express our deepest gratitude to all the players who have supported Etheria: Restart throughout its journey. Your passion, dedication, and love for the game have made it a memorable experience. The game’s servers will be shut down on [insert date], and we encourage all players to redeem any in-game currency or items before this time. We thank you for being part of the Etheria world, and we hope to see you in our future projects.

[sudden kelp]

So far all the events in the game is elemental limited

DoT Sania needs her DoT team

So S.Sania players legit cant do the events

[versed kettle]

LMAO

they censored the a word

:/

[regal hare]

Censoring before EoS

[versed kettle]

ai

they censored it

in main chat

[frail cape]

They were just trying to justify the decision. They are an employee of XD. XD pays them to be the face of the company here

[versed kettle]

they r so scared of being called out again for using ai

[trail spoke]

then why bother making Ssania apex animus in the first place… her kit is just ur expected main dot char, for me personally, kinda boring since i’ve alrd seen like a lot main dot who is just adding dot, extending dot, and as expected exploding dot, like i am thinking they could be more creative with her kit since she is LD, might i remind u, exclusive type, being apex animus

[versed kettle]

just lazy

generally i think outerplane is better than this slop

[naive iron]

SSania pre nerf is already the worst LD imo. 95% of the time can't be used in pvp. Need team built around her, roll shell, module to let her function. And now? 😭

[versed kettle]

they keep deleting my msgs noo

i guess i made the ai slop mad😢

[trail spoke]

take example from rev:1999, dot there is more than ur average dot, like willow having her own type of dot, unique type of dot that is considered dot, perhaps u could name interesting dot char from other game as well

[swift falcon]

I think they might just buy assets like animation from a third party which is why they sometimes feel generic/AI. Chiaki the Echo's ult looks very "copy my homework but make sure to change a few things" compared to Rememento's Pluto ult

[versed kettle]

they definitely use ai

the fact they censored it in main chat is even worse

[dawn agate]

I genuinely don’t think they used AI for any in game assets

[trail spoke]

i am questioning the dev making her apex animus while getting her? not as rewarded as other LD SSR, even sometimes better getting diting or marvell than her

[frail cape]

People are prob just tired of you spamming "ai slop" every other message. I 100% am

[naive iron]

It's a fact. Gameplay wise, mechanic wise, qol wise, Unit design wise. It's just that the outerplane dev released it too soon, in a non-complete form. Now it couldn't recover back and stuck under there.

[dawn agate]

Like the main image people use to justify it is a promotional image with consistent details beyond AIs capabilities

[versed kettle]

ai slop pfp blocked me

anyway

[versed kettle]

yeah

[swift falcon]

they can't even keep consistent which arm Massiah's guard is on

[versed kettle]

no males in outerplane though

[trail spoke]

petition to let ssania user exchange herself to other LD SSR max copium but impossible since it’d be way spoiling the player esp ssania user

like me

[haughty lagoon]

Another shadownerf to add to the list. Youtube video of Hoyans kit from official youtube shows killing a unit in doki giving her stacks of her passive.

On live that doesnt work, she only gets stacks in pve from dying

another unannounced unexplained change

[trail spoke]

shaking our head together

[versed kettle]

yep

[trail spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-anime-sonic-disapproving-sonic-head-shake-sonic-shaking-head-gif-24042427

[naive iron]

Ya know why? Cause they use the video of hoyan from the previous cbt

[dawn agate]

I think it’s cause the video is final cbt 2 of her kit instead of release version of her kit

[haughty lagoon]

No no, they replaced that with a "new" video after taking it down twice

and it STILL isnt showing what's on live

[trail spoke]

make the char more sellable and interesting, so we can see the v creative side of devs, might as well taking or seeing example from another game, and as always

[dawn agate]

What?

[trail spoke]

[weak basin]

Pretty sure that stack was from her passive triggering

[trail spoke]

looking at ssania being apex animus but her kit is just ur average main dot

[haughty lagoon]

She should get stacks from her passive from killing

she does in the video

she doesnt on live

[naive iron]

They already had voice-over in the old video for the hoyan kit. So they couldn't change that but only delete the cbt poster in those last sec of the vid lol 😭

It's just sad at this point

[versed kettle]

ai generated duh

ima stop

[weak basin]

Someone said that soul ward is useless on her since when she triggers s2 passive then uses s3 the s3 counts as a turn. Can someone verify

[dawn agate]

No as in I cannot understand what your saying

In the original post

Reread it and you’ll see what I mean it reads like a stroke

[trail spoke]

and now in aurora, ssania is just ded, even player considering diting is more worth to build for most of pve content, pvp too sometimes if u want burst just adjust the build ig

[trail spoke]

this is my followup to ssania herself, my personal opinion

and i reply my og post with the opinion hehe

[trail spoke]

thus it lead to this in conclusion, mainly for ssania

add the exclusivity too being LD or Apex Animus

[weak basin]

Ssania is also dead in the codex of magic stage

But to be fair

She is one of the only comps farming inferno rn in niko terror and 2/3 teams that beat Hoyan

[trail spoke]

dot team should be replaceable for that mode, no? like having burst diting team or stuffs?

[weak basin]

Diting dies to quickly

[trail spoke]

but perhaps not as fast as dot team since dot takes enemy’s max hp

[weak basin]

Later on we might

But rn dot needs very little in dps stat

Can can focus on surviving

[trail spoke]

i see… so ssania is more of endgame some pve content

[weak basin]

Early entry to inferno shells

Late game is gonna change of course

[vestal parcel]

might be a one week economy

[trail spoke]

but my point still stand being ssania isnt as rewarded to get than other SSR LD

[weak basin]

Yeah

Idk why they killed her in the other 2 dungeons

She was a pve ld5

[stuck delta]

now shes benchwarmer ld5

[trail spoke]

ah also does dot team need lily too? or we have alt for that?

[weak basin]

Lily speeds it up

Cause of the reset

[trail spoke]

i still dont have lily so 😔

but got ssania alrd

[vestal parcel]

they did it maybe so you get baited into pulling the futur characters that will specifically be good against what ssania can't do i guess

[trail spoke]

ikr, thats what dot for

[stuck delta]

lily is basically a must because you die before you get enough dots unless you get the follow up attack from lily and ssania

[trail spoke]

tackling high hp boss

with ease or faster time

[weak basin]

Bramble Lily and sania

Ezzzzz

[red loom]

No responses or any type of communication from the devs yet ?

[stuck delta]

doesnt help when the bosses 1 hit you

[weak basin]

Just full tank

[stuck delta]

full tank inferno kekw

[trail spoke]

yeah, that means it’d be much better and rewarded to get lily obviously rather than ssania

since lily is basically everywhere

[weak basin]

Aren’t the people in inferno building tank rn

[stuck delta]

well its already more rewarding to get lily than any other unit in the entire game

[trail spoke]

true

[stuck delta]

you just have to outspeed with enough dots because youre going to die anyway

[trail spoke]

but ssania being the bottom or least wanted in SSR LD pool, even lower than other SSR RGB to some extent…

just like what i said, why dev bother making her an animus apex in the first place

[trail spoke]

also this
#general-chat message
max copium for Etheria:Restart, tho u could say dev doesnt nerf directly, more like fixing the boss mechanic, but indirectly it kinda nerfs the char performance, even shut it down like ssania for aurora

[celest granite]

nah

[celest granite]

she's carrying me inferno content im happy with her

[trail spoke]

with lily, yeah ig

[trail spoke]

[celest granite]

ah yea

[trail spoke]

so it means u jst better of get lily than ssania for LD pool esp if u want to clear inferno… or get both of them, surely rng will do justice

lily is widely used in both pvp and pve while ssania has her own niche in pve, not pvp sadly

in pve esp against the boss that has v high hp (esp higher diff) and also if dot is effective against it

[woven coyote]

Why y´all debating here with 16k messages xD 😄
Devs don´t care unfortunately

[trail spoke]

isokay, i just want to spill what i have in mind so people know or realize

[quaint jasper]

Maybe if we hit 20k they'll open server 4 to celebrate

[trail spoke]

[celest granite]

they'll nerf difficulty dw

[trail spoke]

hoping for the day aurora be turning back to not immune to dot anymore another copium!

[quaint jasper]

Seanb makes a great point in the comments section of his video about the situation. Compared to Com2us (Summoner's War) who always had crappy communication the bar is super low. But because the devs were super involved and active during the betas them just transitioning (actually no transitioning implies it was a gradual change and not a sudden brick wall) to radio silence makes this even worse than Scam2us just doing business as usual that everyone is numb to

[trail spoke]

yeah, i’ve watched his vid regarding the matter, like what happened to the dev, why they suddenly went silent when in beta, they’re completely concerned and so communicative compared to the current situation

[willow wraith]

literally most the main CCs are speaking out now

[trail spoke]

they should be since this is for Etheria:Restart, the game future itself

[foggy cliff]

Eh it's "Lowkey" against ToS. It's more of they won't offer you support if that account gets compromised.

No game ever really cracks down on those

[weak basin]

Yooo the cc blockade has fallen

[foggy cliff]

It's just not worth it especially when you don't know the dude wasn't just travelling or whatever

[foggy cliff]

Yeah, they actually waited to see if they'd do anything

Which, tbf, was valid

But the longer it goes on... The more it seems nothin will happen

[weak basin]

You can tell when the dude travels 2000 miles within half an hour

[foggy cliff]

Again, they could solve 90% of this issue with just issuing reset tickets

[foggy cliff]

Then you need log analysis lmao

It's not really worth enforcing

[weak basin]

Yep you would just piss people off

[foggy cliff]

Especially since those who buy accounts... Are usually spenders lol

[soft knoll]

You all see the YouTubers starting to speak out because nobody from XD will talk to them?

[quaint jasper]

So much of this wouldn't be a problem if they'd talk to us

[winter salmon]

To anybody literally

[proud dew]

they should just include every change in the patch notes and be transparent and every problem would have resolved itself

[flat anchor]

Does anybody still have contact with them?

Do they even talk to C still or is he also in the dark?

[quaint jasper]

Apparently to some people on this discord putting everything you change onto a patch note is too much

[soft knoll]

?

[rocky coral]

Meanwhile everyone in scarlet guild building sania to clear inferno content ☠️

[proud dew]

they obviously left out stuff on purpose which is not a sign of good faith, all the changes to the bosses are fine if they were documented

i mean sania is the only way to clear inferno stages rn apart from doki with our current gear

[quaint jasper]

Apparently not documenting any changes to the product is okay

[soft knoll]

Oh I thought you were saying the opposite. My bad

[proud dew]

they for sure have them documented tho, they just chose not to disclose them which is alarming

[quaint jasper]

It was this failure to disclose the change that made people think the hotfix is when they did the whole Aurora DoT thing when it was a fix they did from beta to launch

Their failure to communicate good or even at all is why there's so much chaos including misinformation being put in with all the actual problems

[storm vale]

its the failure to announce such a big change and they still have not done so or gave compensation for the people who only built dot to get the aura gear maxed, making their entire team literally useless and terror aswell not but change but def harder

[spice robin]

u guys are just picking stuff to demand compensations at this point

[proud dew]

i agree they should have communicated in patch notes
saying dot team is bad is like completly wrong tho, it's the best pve team by a mile

[quaint jasper]

Are you okay with the devs making changes to the game and not telling us in the patch notes?

[proud dew]

99% of terror inferno clears are dot
90% of inferno shell dungeons are dot
with 5* shadow sania too

[vestal parcel]

at this point they might stole your credit card id and they will not tell you

[spice robin]

they did make the change from beta to release, building your team based on test phase is your own fault. Since Release Aurora has been the same.

[quaint jasper]

I didn't. I didn't own Sania in either beta or right now. You can use the search bar and use the from:user thing to see my posts. I am not one of those Sania sucks now cryers

[proud dew]

then why document the other changes? but only leave those out?

[quaint jasper]

My beef is about them making changes and not telling us

[vestal parcel]

it seems that they don't play their own game

[spice robin]

it seems we have accumulated a unhealthy amount of crybabys in the community i think its good that they are shutting up. Ppl got Toxic and demanding around here. Started to feel too powerful since the dupe thing.

[quaint jasper]

Nice, thanks for ignoring me

What's so hard about typing stuff like this out?

[winter salmon]

You can actually summarize any critisism with ,,ohh cry babies"

[quaint jasper]

People like you letting them get off with fumbling standard operating procedure and saying people wanting them to go by standard operating procedures are crybabies is gonna do so much good for the game

[spice robin]

didnt i wrote a bit more then that + reasoning? Ahh its too hard to look 4 messages up i dont remember

you got modded bro

[haughty lagoon]

Who did?

[spice robin]

😂

[quaint jasper]

This dude actually ignoring me because he can't defend the devs not putting all their changes in the patch notes which is like something 95% of all gaming companies or even companies outside of gaming do

[spice robin]

dude u didnt ask a question or smth

lmao

i didnt feel like you were directly talking to me

[quaint jasper]

I was responding to your argument

[quaint jasper]

Do I actually have to use this reply feature to handhold for you?

[spice robin]

thats my message tho

[quaint jasper]

Yes and I was responding to it

They made the fix but didn't put it on the patch notes

How were people supposed to know?

When someone on my team makes changes to the project and doesn't write up a changelog everyone gets up in their shit

[spice robin]

If its not a change from release version to after release u can kinda be happy they telling u what they did change (or try to) at all. The other changes were fixes that were obviously unintended interactions (refering to xiadi in doki and ssania now). Basicly some ppl rage about getting blocked from exploiting

[quaint jasper]

You're strawmanning. I have no issue with exploits getting blocked

But they have to document the changes in the patch notes

Take a look at my from:user if you don't believe me

[steep marten]

[quaint jasper]

I'm not one of those Sania, Xiada, or Veronika sucks cryers

[steep marten]

can we get to 20k

[winter salmon]

,,exploiting"

[spice robin]

"Oh hey guys, you read the skill description yet the Unit did more then it said, believe it or not this wasnt intended, i hope you understand that we fix that" and then noone would cry

[rocky coral]

Can I spam

[quaint jasper]

Yes. Precisely. Glad we're on the same page

[steep marten]

im not mod btw there is no slowmode here

[quaint jasper]

Just put it on the patch notes

[spice robin]

"hey guys believe it or not u werent supposed to be able to steal that unique permanent boss buff effect"

[winter salmon]

You can bassically defend anything with that's not how it is supposed to work NOT INTENTEND

[rocky coral]

Wait I thought you were

Sorry

[spice robin]

it seems i can do everything with anything thats the 2nd time u get that argument bruther

[spice robin]

^

[quaint jasper]

This one was kind of on the patch notes but they were super vague about it by saying it was "abnormal dokidoki buffs" and not being specific which is another problem too

Like dude, we're on the same page here

[winter salmon]

Because you generalize without having a second thoughts

[spice robin]

must be that

[quaint jasper]

If there's an exploit and you change it, then please put it on the patch notes

[static orbit]

I just love this thread. My only salvation for this game is the drama it unfolds.

[quaint jasper]

I don't own Sania or Xiada and haven't touched my Veronika so I have no horse in those races but no matter what happens, just put it on the patch notes please

[spice robin]

well good luck compensation hunting

[quaint jasper]

I don't really care about the compensation anymore I just want the devs to get their act together

I'll let other people scream for free stuff

[winter salmon]

Good luck growing your 11 viewers channel

[spice robin]

bcs i dont see much "do better" i see 99% "gimme gimme"

[quaint jasper]

I just want the devs to do better because we saw them doing better in the beta

Like don't you think it's a problem Jack was like all over the place in the beta but now post launch he's just gone?

[flat anchor]

Jack joined Dong

[spice robin]

good take on the topic

[flat anchor]

they're both nowhere to be seen

[swift falcon]

Maybe they got rid of Jack and that's why the game balance is much different now

[quaint jasper]

People are super upset about the radio silence because the devs were so involved in the beta

If the devs were crappy in the beta less people would be mad

[flat anchor]

certainly feels like it

but that would be a braindead decision

[spice robin]

and the devs got spit in their face by ccs and the community for that. So they try smth diffrent

[static orbit]

Those are the poors asking for crumbs. I myself align with the poors but I don't want compensation. What I need is for them to get their heads together and fix the game with transparency.

[flat anchor]

people like the beta let's change everything and fire the dude people liked

[quaint jasper]

The only real time people were mad in the beta was the whole dupes do work in rta thing and that was actually a post beta drama too

The beta was pretty chill and amazing and day 1 and 2 of launch were super strong

[flat anchor]

I don't want compensation either but at the very least the sania players should get ressource refunds

that's an entire team they invested in

Atleast with Xiada the character doesn't loose relevency

you can still clap cheeks with her you just don't get to buff steal the giga atk

[spice robin]

thats the very definition of compensation

you first say you want no compensation but then you say they could atleast give sania players compensation

[quaint jasper]

You're arguing semantics it's very clear he means he doesn't care about pulls and gems he just wants a reset

[flat anchor]

well no some people are asking for like pulls or something as an apology ontop of ressource refund

[spice robin]

well thats hot 😂

[flat anchor]

you don't need pulls if you just let those guys units either work again or refund their team so they can build a new one

but bricking peoples accounts willy nilly is mad

[vestal parcel]

we need pulls

[spice robin]

90% of those ppl would reset smth else but not ssania bcs u almost cant clear niconana early without her

[flat anchor]

I literally clear Niconana with Xiada

[quaint jasper]

Okay and why do you care what people do with their resets?

[proud dew]

they should give unit reset for sure
how is shadow sania bricking your account tho when she is literally in every inferno clear but doki?

[spice robin]

bro u talking abt hell

[flat anchor]

also that would be up to them

[spice robin]

i am talking abt inferno

[quaint jasper]

And if that's a problem for you then do what e7 does and make the resets unit specific

[flat anchor]

if they don't use the reset on sania that's on them

let them

but the Option needs to be there

[willow wraith]

comparing compensation to handouts is a brainless take, we're not friends with XD we're in business with them. When someone breaks an agreement they have to try to make it right or you just aren't going to do business with them anymore. Compensation is not handouts it's to try to reestablish trust.

[spice robin]

it doesnt need to be there, build teams based on your experience and be no sheep and stuff like this doesnt happen to you

[winter salmon]

Why some people are so against reset? When this is literally industry standard

[flat anchor]

I don't get it either

[deep wedge]

gotta defend small indie company

[spice robin]

bcs ppl who failed bcs they blindly followed others deserve a lil brick

[flat anchor]

that's not how business works

"lmao it's your own fault"

[willow wraith]

you make no sense you post fucking guides and are saying people shouldnt use them because if they do they deserve to get screwed by taking your advice

[flat anchor]

"ok I will deal with a different company then"

[soft knoll]

you do not have to open up wide and bounce on it for the digital casino. they are not your friend

[dapper ridge]

Ah yes, the unit that the devs used in beta to farm Aurora suddenly gets a bug fix when it was known in beta beforehand now deserve to be bricked cuz of it nice take

[quaint jasper]

What about if something worked in the beta and the patch notes didn't say anything about fixing it. So they do exactly what they did in the beta

[spice robin]

what now?

didnt understand that

[soft knoll]

you do not have to swallow the whole eggplant for them. they won't even smile at you

[willow wraith]

he is saying dont twerk on them for free

[flat anchor]

[spice robin]

ah u think i am white knighting dw i dont care, i just dislike the community around here and how demanding and toxic they are :p

[soft knoll]

anything you can take from a company, you should take. that's how they're approaching you, and pretending otherwise is the worldview of a small child

[quaint jasper]

Defending XD on this is pretty cringe. If it was a cute girl I'd understand

[willow wraith]

"demanding and toxic" im sorry we advocate for your best interests

[deep wedge]

lmao

[dapper ridge]

gets scammed
yo refund me!
This guy: you are so demanding my god

[deep wedge]

this is your typical global player

[spice robin]

apology accepted

[soft knoll]

"demanding and toxic" price for Massiah being turned 50% darker: $9.99

[flat anchor]

Demanding to not have your units shadownerfed is quite the sentence

[quaint jasper]

Yeah we're trying to help you in a way by making the devs do better

[soft knoll]

that ain't demanding brother? your head's screwed on loose

[dapper ridge]

Used to be an arena reward btw

[soft knoll]

OOF

[deep wedge]

wish global wasn't so cucked and followed KR and CN example

[quaint jasper]

You laugh at all the Sania cryers now but wait until it's your turn on the chopping block for undocumented changes to the game

[deep wedge]

show the companies who's the boss

[spice robin]

she wasnt nerfed she does exactly what her skill description said since day 1

the fact that she did more should be obvious to everyone that its not intended

[quaint jasper]

Because of a change that happened that wasn't documented on the patch notes

[soft knoll]

let me put it simply: when a unit does what her description says to fewer enemies, that is a nerf to her overall capabilities

[dapper ridge]

Semantics, she cannot be used in a fight she used to be good in before. Tomato tomato

[quaint jasper]

Usually people who argue semantics are on the losing side

[spice robin]

which fight?

i hope u not talking abt aurora im gonna sht myself

[soft knoll]

semantics are very important for structuring a useful understanding of the world

[willow wraith]

its not even semantics because it literally is a nerf

[hoary surge]

R99 IS GOATED

[quaint jasper]

What I mean is if your entire response to an argument is predicated on honing in on very specific semantics then you're losing

[dapper ridge]

Aurora hell mode, the devs farmed her in the beta and on test servers before they changed this "bug"

[soft knoll]

oh yeah sure, usually

[willow wraith]

say you are in a fight and i give your enemy a knife im fucking nerfing you lmao

[dapper ridge]

Don't pull an idubbz sit on a toilet instead.

[spice robin]

ahh they changed something from a test phase to release i get it. COMPENSATION

[deep wedge]

lil bro she literally worked for like almost a week on release

not only beta

[flat anchor]

Also wasn't there that thing from yesterday were somebody discovered Sharon says she's DoT immune but you can apply DoT to her right now in the Ethernet Rally?

[spice robin]

noone could imagine that something that worked on a testing period could be diffrent on release ofc u build ur teams around that

[flat anchor]

It's only the Shell version that's DoT immune apparantly

[quaint jasper]

Without putting it on the patch notes

[spice robin]

and if it doesnt work

COMPENSATION

[flat anchor]

but it's not stated anywhere

[soft knoll]

a test phase where they accepted hundreds of dollars per user and a test server where they let content creators make day 1 video guides advertising certain clear methods which they never bothered to say would be patched out

hurr durrrrrrrr

[spice robin]

patch notes i precive as something that u apply on actual changes of the game not changes from a testing period to the real thing

[open knoll]

Lil bros that white Knight the devs have probably no clue about the end game or are just ragebaiting

[weak basin]

You couldn’t see aurora until day 3 minimum… you can’t see renegetsu or how ever you spell his name until day 9.

Are you suggesting we time travel?

[dapper ridge]

Hey leviatra, that test you have to take? Yeah we changed finance to biochemistry.
What's this? You want time to study up? Nope, you go take the test now, if you don't pass you fail the class.
Oh what's that? The time and money you spent on learning finance? Idc. Go cry in a corner i guess.
Your whole argument right there you clown, at least go to a circus, you get paid for opinions like these

[willow wraith]

except they literally had a pre-launch patch notes lmao

[quaint jasper]

So the giant post beta pre launch patch notes having all these things from nerfs to buffs to changes to gameplay and even little things like text shouldn't have been ont he patch notes either?

[spice robin]

im not reading that essay

[dapper ridge]

Smol brain

[deep wedge]

4 lines is an essay these days

[spice robin]

D:

[soft knoll]

pre-launch betas these days are as much soft release promo tools as they are legitimate betas and devs understand that people will inform their launch decisionmaking based on those betas. devs who make game-changing decisions about popular units without telling anybody know what's likely to happen

[willow wraith]

sees more than a sentence cooks him

[spice robin]

true

[weak basin]

Why is bro crying about people crying?

[quaint jasper]

@spice robin
https://etheria.xd.com/us/news/single?id=v8lsquMEZZYP

[spice robin]

bcs i dislike ppl crying like you dislike having no patchnotes

[dapper ridge]

Ooooh is a cc, that is why.

[willow wraith]

then you should hate yourself

[quaint jasper]

Why is something as little as " Adjusted the layout of the betting interface." on here but not a fix to the Aurora boss fight

[spice robin]

i do

D:

[dapper ridge]

Trust me, you are nobody to them and they won't make your career either

[willow wraith]

im saying its justified you do

[spice robin]

thank you, you opened my eyes

i now also want compensation

[quaint jasper]

Dude, try pulling that shit off in the real world. You make changes to the github and don't tell anyone

How many of them are gonna be up your ass about that

[dapper ridge]

I mean idc about compensation i'mma just charge back and peace out

[flat anchor]

now he's just trolling

[weak basin]

Damn sorry we want a basic thing that companies do

Sorry I didn’t realize we wanted to go into crypto here

[dapper ridge]

But your argument is braindead so

[flat anchor]

underperforming basic industry standards, XD what a man you are

[quaint jasper]

If someone on my team could get a verbal warning from my boss for not disclosing changes to the project in documentation then why should the devs get away with failing to do so for their game?

[winter salmon]

The only, Man who is regularly using Word compensation is you Dude

[spice robin]

yeah they should really do that on their first patchnotes bcs since release there was nothing thats patchnote worthy 😛

[spice robin]

compensation

[weak basin]

Change to aurora and renekegutsu seems pretty note worthy

[soft knoll]

"I just didn't think it was mission critical to let the client know about key changes to the deliverable on release. What do you mean I'm fired"

[spice robin]

as i said "since release" aurora was like that all along its a diffrence between release and testphase

[weak basin]

:shockedPika:

[winter salmon]

You must be a fun person during parties

[weak basin]

They put out a LAUNCH PATCH NOTES

[spice robin]

true

[weak basin]

[willow wraith]

bro literally doesnt know DoTs worked on aurora for a week

[weak basin]

Bro I think we should stop speaking to the dev alt account

[spice robin]

u farmed aurora first week? tell me more

bcs as far as i know aurora was locked first 3 days o.O

[flat anchor]

Dark Jack

[quaint jasper]

It's weird usually the trolls in gacha communities are the ones attacking the game I rarely see trolls on the defense

[dapper ridge]

They had a test server between end of beta and game release btw where they farmed aurora inferno with shadow Sania btw

[willow wraith]

"locked" lmao

[weak basin]

You should see hoyo

[vestal parcel]

copium

[willow wraith]

i get it now its not a troll they actually cant read

[quaint jasper]

I mean that isn't to say there aren't trolls on the attack but for a game of Etheria's size the amount of trolls on defense is pretty disproportional

[weak basin]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[vestal parcel]

i guess yeah

but the game has to be good except the specific issue for that to happen

and it can't be something niche like good story

[spice robin]

i thought my rahu was like exodia and i just win putting him in my team automaticly DEVS WHERE IS MY FREE 1k LD PULLS!?

[dapper ridge]

Bait used to be believeable

[weak basin]

That was never in beta my guy

[spice robin]

it was dude fr

[willow wraith]

i like to believe these are just little kids wanting to argue

[weak basin]

Im sorry. Take your meds

[vestal parcel]

nah they are just giga baiters

the peoples that want to argue are the peoples who take them seriously

[willow wraith]

if someone is 30+ doing this, give up

[spice robin]

😂

[weak basin]

I prefer the term “master baiters”

[quaint jasper]

Get a real job and do things without telling people what you're doing see how that works out for you

[vestal parcel]

i used to like it back in the old days

[willow wraith]

same

then you grow up and realize no one likes you

[weak basin]

If I did that on my work place I would be fired on the spot and fined

[vestal parcel]

i mean if your mother like you it's enough to be fair

[vestal parcel]

tell that to politics in my country

[willow wraith]

thats enough definitely but it feels better when you aren't an asshole to everyone

[vestal parcel]

xd

[spice robin]

Jokes aside im done trolling. I really think the community has became too demanding with a lot of stuff. And yes i actually think that Devs shouldve put that stuff into patchnotes but those were reasonable changes nontheless. It would be nice if ppl were like "do better from now on" but most ppl be like "give me free stuff" and i bet there are lot of ppl among them who arent even affected and just want free goodies. Now rip this apart and anylize my personal life ill read it in the morning 😛

[vestal parcel]

nah f you bro for being real this time

you just had to never stop trolling

[flat anchor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Etheria_Official/s/a3rltEmx48

[dapper ridge]

I am unaffected and I indeed want compensation you're god damn right, where are my goodies

[flat anchor]

has this been mentioned yet?

apparantly this Shells description is completely wrong too

It doesn't give final damage and it's not about using any skill 2 times but Skill 1 two times

[quaint jasper]

You're strawmanning again. I never said the changes themselves were unreasonable. I just wanted them to put it on the patchnotes

[placid raft]

No one is demanding free stuff. They want resets for units they possibly paid for (if they aren’t f2p) and invested resources (that they also possibly paid for) into. We also want communication because all of this has been a 180 from how they engaged during beta which is shady to say the least. So this narrative that people are being greedy by wanting this addressed makes no sense to me.

[flat anchor]

what's greedy is nerfing alternative teams so people have to pull the devs intended meta to beat a boss

[willow wraith]

and i want a sania buff

[vestal parcel]

i demande free stuff because it's a gacha game that will make millions off whale playing it

[flat anchor]

"Xiada and Veronika were clearing Doki? Naaaa only Rilmocha is allowed to do that"

[livid rampart]

Don't play the game their way and get shafted

[regal hare]

It is with a heavy heart that we announce the End of Service (EOS) for Etheria: Restart. After careful consideration, we have made the difficult decision to discontinue the game. We want to express our deepest gratitude to all the players who have supported Etheria: Restart throughout its journey. Your passion, dedication, and love for the game have made it a memorable experience. The game’s servers will be shut down on [insert date], and we encourage all players to redeem any in-game currency or items before this time. We thank you for being part of the Etheria world, and we hope to see you in our future projects.

[livid rampart]

Screw creativity to overcome challenges

[flat anchor]

"SSania is clearing Aurora? Nope not allowed, has to be Rosa"

[livid rampart]

We on tracks you either have our engine or you're done

[flat anchor]

can't wait for the new required LD units were not having them bricks your account

[flat anchor]

supported Etheria throughout it's 1 and a half week journey

[livid rampart]

The fact that they screw builds over without a complimentary restart on balances that don't even affect pvp is crazy

[willow wraith]

we are definitely getting some busted kits in the near future considering holden's kit

[vestal parcel]

if this game dying means more content in torchlight infinit i'm all for it

[flat anchor]

XD is using DoT team on their own business

[livid rampart]

Beijing beacon 2.0

[flat anchor]

it also makes no sense to prevent people from clearing the PvE that's necessary to clear to even work on PvP

[willow wraith]

this game will 100% fail in china

[flat anchor]

if nobody can get to PvP what's the point?

[winter salmon]

I am mostly worried about support kits because i think the base kits of supports are already pretty busted

[livid rampart]

Let's piss off players and hide. Wow such smart business tactics

[flat anchor]

that works great everytime especially with niche products!

[vestal parcel]

let's piss on players

[livid rampart]

I don't even have xiada and have rimolcha and still pissed for the xiada bros

[willow wraith]

like right now they are trying to do all this stuff before china launch, but considering how sloppy they are it'll just happen again after CN launch and they'll dipout

[livid rampart]

Well not really pissed lol

[flat anchor]

does CN watch the situation?

do they know?

[livid rampart]

Ssania directly affected me tho

[soft knoll]

I'm still throwing lattices into her because I've got nothing else

[quaint jasper]

CN can handle the game itself but the devs fumbling communicating is what CN is not gonna like

[flat anchor]

from what I heard CN doesn't even care about the game

Global is their biggest market

[quaint jasper]

Asian gamers can tolerate a lot of bs

[willow wraith]

i doubt CN really knows atm, i'd have to be posted on billibilli

[vestal parcel]

grok is china interested in etheria restart ?

[flat anchor]

it was posted on bili but nobody cared

it had like no views

[willow wraith]

maybe the game just has no hype for them anyways then

[livid rampart]

Balanced m and f ratio rip in Beijing

[vestal parcel]

it's not that hyped but it's hyped enough i guess

[stark escarp]

just by looking at the pinned messages btw its pretty clear they wont do anything about this

[vestal parcel]

like it's not the next crystal of atlan that's for sure

[livid rampart]

Just like Beijing beacon they will only do something when the rating hits 2 or lower

[flat anchor]

Grok is shilling the game for me rn

bro is saying CN is hyped

[stark escarp]

and honestly i can understand kinda why this isnt big in cn

[vestal parcel]

yes it's a bit hype

[livid rampart]

Did he also tell you the underlying issues with South Africa?

[vestal parcel]

not that much but a bit for a big country like that

[willow wraith]

that pinned message was before the recent changes and before CCs started making videos

[vestal parcel]

being black ?

[livid rampart]

It's apparently and issue if you're white

[flat anchor]

Grok just told me Lian was also shadownerfed?

[livid rampart]

Anyways until ratings or money drop down they won't do shit

[livid rampart]

Probably on terror

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

[stark escarp]

i mean would you say this affects the whales at all?

[vestal parcel]

chat gpt told me that she got buffed

[stark escarp]

or they just gonna move to another unit and gg's

[tribal portal]

white genocide 🥀

[flat anchor]

ask what the buff is

[vestal parcel]

lifesteal

[flat anchor]

[vestal parcel]

and slight dps boost

[flat anchor]

insein buff

[vestal parcel]

this character is so piss anyway

[flat anchor]

thank you for Lian buff XD you're forgiven all your sins

[vestal parcel]

better play my ninja fangus

Sad that the devs are doing some stupid stuff the 5 first days where good

Talking about gooning in chat was fun

[flat anchor]

None of these changes were necessary

everyone was chillin and having fun

[vestal parcel]

Free to play players was aware of the fact that they will get rolled by whale anyway

[flat anchor]

yea they were cool with just duking it out in their own brackets

I'm one of em

[vestal parcel]

The aurora stuff I can maybe understand but the inferno buff is fucking crazy

[flat anchor]

I don't need max rank I'm cool dabling with the normal people somewhere in the middle

[vestal parcel]

I did not understand at what point it was bad but looking at peoples équipement for the dudes that are using the strats for Terro

Make you understand how crazy expensive you need to be with the specific unit to clear

Fast

[graceful dust]

They really need to look at the AI of our units or tone down the bosses in this game

the AI is too stupid to auto when you know you can clear and the auto does the most moronic plays known to man

and it isn't like you can Create a replay of your run for the AI to micmic it does it itself

[weak basin]

Just record a macro

Better than what they will implement anyways

[graceful dust]

that is how you get banned i believe

[weak basin]

Hasn’t people been doing that in sw for years?

[graceful dust]

this game isn't summonrwars last game i did a macro in i got banned

which was E7

and the ToS for this game isn't clear

im not about to lose my account

testing

[weak basin]

Bug fix incoming

[graceful dust]

that's just hate Macro's are ok in some games and not ok in others

and im not about to find out here

[weak basin]

Damn. They really hate us don’t they

You can’t even farm infinitely anyways

[soft knoll]

It would help if they didn't make AI targeting random for enemies

[spice robin]

brah u can set the enemy priority in auto battles

[livid rampart]

All they need to do is allow you to record maybe the first two waves of a fight most times

Healers healing with literally a sliver of everyones health barely depleted right before the boss nukes you is so frustrating

Ig instead of allowing us that option they just made a shell that stores the heal for later

[flat anchor]

he's talking about enemy targeting

targeting behavior on enemies screws up autos because they can decide to randomly burst down specific characters while other times they don't

[foggy cliff]

Diting says hi

[proud dew]

look at inferno clears

[spice surge]

Soon being nerfed

[small tendon]

Look at inferno clear for terro. No diting

[proud dew]

nico nana inferno too 99% dot

[foggy cliff]

Literally top 3rd fastest is Diting

There's a couple more too

[tall forge]

That's literally what kills my run most of the time. They really should just be like Arknights and let us record our best clear to replicate for continuous battle. Or just give us sweep function

[spice surge]

That team is completely rng the person who came up with the strategy had already said you’d have to have perfect rng and also have perfect gear and even still unreliable so with gear as of now no

[foggy cliff]

There's multiple clears of Ditings though

[spice surge]

Yeah of course I just told you rng, if you get lucky it’s gonna clear

[rocky coral]

Who came up with the strategy

[spice surge]

Also if you maxed ssr and skill ups obviously your gonna perform over others

[foggy cliff]

And I'm saying, DoT deserving "best" PvE team is pushing it lmao. When Diting variants work for almost all content. Best NicoNana team though I agree with that due to bypassing damage reduction passive

[spice surge]

One of his guildies

But obviously if one copy’s others are bound to copy

So it’s hard to source who exactly came first

Tho if many have already tested and said the same thing it’s to be expected

[rocky coral]

@spice robin what’s your clear % at

I know you are farming it

[terse yoke]

Still no announcements addressing these issues?

[spice robin]

8/10

[rocky coral]

Thanks I thought so

[spice surge]

Probably won’t unless we complain enough

[spice robin]

also its my original strategy and i didnt say something like that

[rocky coral]

[queen patrol]

S Sania was nerfed so hard she's used on a vast majority of inferno content. Damn.

[rocky coral]

Ya you were thinking it since last beta

Just viktor before

[spice robin]

i came up with it and its not rng. It was at first when i had less dmg the run would fail if buff arm cleansed def break but when i upped my gear the run would only fail if vero missed her first strip

[weak basin]

I wouldn’t call 3/7 vast majority

[spice robin]

also "used" is kind of a wrong term. All the clears on terror inferno and nico nana with lily+ssania are manuel battles otherwise that combination doesnt work

if u rdy to farm 100x a day manuelly feel free

but for me every team that doesnt go on auto is not valid

[steel ravine]

about to hit level 50 and to get depressed because I know I won't be able to clear any inferno content 🥲

[weak basin]

Same. Again, not saying sania is useless. She is a very easy entry to inferno in 3 stages. But to glaze her saying she is used in majority inferno is ridiculous

[spice robin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEGzq_Ccl80 "perfect rng" the fight is planned and will always go 100% the same way if you speed tune properly. Less rng is close to impossible.

i made diting a bit faster so he wouldnt go after arm 2nd turn and freya a bit slower so she doesnt go b4 boss since this run

[small tendon]

Time to build veronika

[soft knoll]

I missed this when you initially replied but I meant the enemies have randomized targeting. You can't bring in a weak matchup tank (or even just an element neutral tank in a team full of advantage units) on purpose to draw fire and intelligently manipulate their programming. They purposely made it unpredictable to make runs less stable

[spice robin]

ah yea ic

i hope thats diffrent in guild battles tbh

never tested that in pve bcs i dont run stall comps but for arena from what i have seen it seems to target according to element except for specific things like pushback that will target highes turn meter

[stoic pier]

Will there be a x2 even soon though? Sorry it's kind of offtopic but i know you guys are very active

[spice robin]

there will be no 2x event atleast for the next scheduled events that go until the 26th

IF they did list properly

[stoic pier]

Alright then, thanks!

[quaint jasper]

Considering the devs have a propensity for not listing changes they make to the game who knows maybe there's a 2x coming and we don't even know about it huffs copium

[stoic pier]

Well i have 30 batteries that are dying to be used lol

[spice robin]

if u are below 50 use to rush so u get maximum out of dayli crystal refreshes by getting access to higher content

if u are 50 safe itll come around eventually

[stoic pier]

Oh so you are recommending i keep the batteries and go for gem refreshes

[spice robin]

are you lvl 50?

[stoic pier]

Ahh i though you werer talking about the number of batteries💀

No, i'm like 42

[spice robin]

ah 😂

then i would use all up

safing them is only worth once u reached 50

[stoic pier]

Alright, thanks!

[soft knoll]

There's definitely an elemental bias overall but sometimes they throw it all in the trash and go hard on random units for no reason

[storm vale]

are they ever going to make an announcement holy this game is gonna eos

[spiral wedge]

levi can i use ur advice x.x

[hoary echo]

What does eos mean

[shell hamlet]

End of service

[hoary echo]

I’m hella struggling with the difficulty to obtain gear

[shell hamlet]

Yea i mean its hard especially if you are a low spender or f2p

[hoary echo]

I’m F2P and my units just die and I lack the damage to kill the boss even with debuffs

I need skill ups

Idk how people are able to clear

[shell hamlet]

Had a decent time before those nerfs

[spiral wedge]

does the ssania fangus team need lily o.o

[trail spoke]

u could go to #1382334085288169542 to see if there are any alternative option

and yeah, i myself dont have lily but alrd build ssania and fangus (ssania still not skill leveled yet tho, but fangus s1 and s2 alrd max)

it is more of a higher diff run esp inferno since if u dont defeat the boss fast enough, then the boss will just make ur team ded instead, so lily is needed for faster clear, reducing the risk of getting defeated

[fallen inlet]

after seeing everything going down, i'm contemplating quitting the game even though i've spent money now. I am a vice in a guild and i will feel bad leaving them behind. should i do it?

i had such high hopes for this game too

[placid raft]

I'm in the same boat, especially now with the double charge drama and them refusing to do refunds / just giving crystals even though the double charge is their mistake. It's somehow just getting worse and worse and still no statements.

I genuinely don't know how they're going to fix their reputation with this many issues all in the first 1-2 weeks.

[rich granite]

https://youtu.be/vJFSPUjpGao?si=NjarlhfFxCcOpz_R

This is getting even worse lol. They have really harmed their reputation in a way that seems irreparable

[willow basalt]

You guys are still here? I love the dedication, shows that you actually care at least

[fallen inlet]

i honestly do not think they can, provided this game isnt just going to pull a Tribe Nine

which is always a possibility

[quaint jasper]

If it weren't for how good they were doing the beta I would've been long gone. The fact that they were pretty cool during the beta is why I'm giving them some time to course correct but I probably won't be around in July if things don't change

[fallen inlet]

Ive told my guild leader straight up, if they nerf another character like this. Im gone

[weak basin]

Bros gonna have to pull a wuwa 2.0 out of no where

[fallen inlet]

and i think thats fair

[quaint jasper]

If they nerf Diting I'm out full stop

Diting turns into Quitting

[placid raft]

Same, that's why this whole thing has been so shocking. I just don't understand the switch up from beta. Just clinging on to hope lol.

[fallen inlet]

me too, i have fully invested into him now

i do not support this kind of practice inside of a gacha game. so imma dip if they continue

[quaint jasper]

Yup if the devs were totally shitty during the beta I wouldn't be giving them time to fix things

I'm overdosing on copium

[fallen inlet]

the fact we have heard nothing doesnt fill me with any confidence

[winter salmon]

Everyday i wake up and Hope to see an update on news channel ;_____;

[fallen inlet]

they are being radio silent which isnt as good indicator

[placid raft]

Anyone still playing is. There have been too many signs to quit but I really love this game but it's looking bad.

[fallen inlet]

This game has everything i ever wanted out of HSR. Loadouts, Skip Button, No 50/50. It had so much potential