Shadow Buff Terrormaton and Aurora.

[copper nexus]

can

[weak basin]

[copper nexus]

someone explain to me

[rich granite]

Well XD as a studio is known for controversies and creating lots of drama

[copper nexus]

the infinity nikki drama

i saw thumbnales for the videos

but never clicked so idk what happened

same with black beacon

no idea what happened to boht games

[odd berry]

[weak basin]

They redid the entire story, increased pity by 20, broke the game, people can’t log on, if you don’t log on you can’t get the monthly, they had a bug that allowed players to get more premium currency so they did a hot fix to remove it causing a lot of players to go negative, they lowered frequency of endgame which lowered premium currency

Probably more but tldr

[copper nexus]

thats

WILD

lol

holy fk

what?

[uneven crown]

toastymellos has been warned

Reason: Spam

[copper nexus]

fuck you bot

DLLM

[hollow iris]

i have seen you get so many warning by the bot

[copper nexus]

i've never heard of a game

[hollow iris]

wild

[odd berry]

[copper nexus]

INCREASING pity like that

[copper nexus]

bot is racist

smh

@uneven crown

[soft knoll]

Any news on compensation?

[weak basin]

The compensation is you can play the game now

Dw guys they fixed it

[soft knoll]

That's so funny

Wait, they added new servers a day after that reddit mod said new servers weren't coming any time soon either

This company is a mess lmao

[weak basin]

Just saving refreshes incase they pull a 2x out of no where

[weak basin]

Your first mistake was logging into reddit

[soft knoll]

It's so entertaining

[rich granite]

The compensation is you only wasted a week of your time

[rich granite]

Yeah everything this week has been a joke. It’s like they’re trying to crash out on purpose

[civic stag]

Wait, have you guys not checked their response yet on Reddit?

[alpine sonnet]

Do you have a link?

[civic stag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Etheria_Official/s/p15oEsCjQf

Almost 2 days now and that's their reply, I don't really expect something now tbh

[odd berry]

bro its old since yesterday we know this already

[copper nexus]

LMAO

old news

xd

[civic stag]

My bad, I thought you still didn't know lol

[copper nexus]

TLDR its shit do better devs or gg game ded

[odd berry]

its jsut the same middle finger

as yesterday

xd

[civic stag]

Since it looks like they don't plan on giving any compensation and you guys still here expecting some miracle 😆

[soft knoll]

We have, that's why we're wondering where the rest of it is where they offer resets

[copper nexus]

i mean its not expecting a miracle

its just

they fucked up so hard

they better think about it what to do well

cuz the next statement they make on the issue is either gonna be the last they hear of their players

or the only chance they have to salvage the whole situation lol

[candid scarab]

I don't think they care. Sad truth may be only 10 players quit and chargeback. Others remain.

[copper nexus]

nah

its way more than 10 LOL

and even if 10 players do that

if they all spent 1000

thats just 10k down the drain for them lol

on a single basis of poor communication

[odd berry]

https://tenor.com/view/casual-goodbye-chill-exit-disappearing-act-disappearing-trick-fading-away-gif-2361864971460139507

[floral dove]

It’s more than that cuz if they let this compound they’re losing a lot of the core ppl wh o would keep spending too

[rich granite]

And charge back transaction fees that are % based on the amount charged back

[gleaming rover]

they will think so well about it that at the time they will come to a solution we wont even play the game anymore

[tawdry turret]

even if players didn't quit most lost interest long term

[rich granite]

That was my point exactly yesterday. And if we don’t hear something tonight it’ll most likely be Monday before we do as it’s going to be Friday for China today

[rich granite]

Definitely. It’s taken them so long to respond that may people are losing interest

[candid scarab]

Hmm I don't see this vibe in general chat.

[gleaming rover]

general chat is full of shills and whiteknights and a minority of the playerbase

[odd berry]

🍿

[candid scarab]

Oh is it? I thought it could represent active player base.

[short bay]

Why would players who don’t play… sit in a general chat for a game they don’t play anymore

A feedback channel or a complaint chamber sure but the general chat idk only people there are the happy unaffected people or the unaware

[gleaming rover]

most players are casual that dont even bother to join the discord

[hollow iris]

both represent active player base, just one the people who are jaded and on the verge of quitting, waiting for something to push them to leave or to bring them back in and the other 'regular' players who are still engaging with the game

both are real active parts of the player base

[odd berry]

https://tenor.com/view/one-dollar-man-poor-dollar-money-make-it-rain-gif-17950415

[hollow iris]

this thread serves as a nice containment zone so that the two communities dont have to interact

[gleaming rover]

but we do

[hollow iris]

except shills like to keep crossing the border

[gleaming rover]

look at plat the dumbass

[hollow iris]

yea

i dont know he wants to suck corporate cock thats his business at least im free to mock him here in it

and at least unlike him , i have the courtesy to not enter the positive part of the community and bring my negativity there

[gleaming rover]

nah just last month he wanted to quit and rebate when the dupe drama came out, he is just a hypocrite

[hollow iris]

instead of being a retarded shill inside the negative one

[odd berry]

just farming your reactions pure cinema

[odd berry]

sure and u want to quit cause your easy ways is nerfed damn

[gleaming rover]

you can't farm my reactions i already did reset my DoT team and im over it

i just want to give the extra voice that shit like this cant be the standard

[odd berry]

sure nerf is ok but not that they wrote it down

as always

but we have retards like this other guy

so this going on

[gleaming rover]

the only retards are the devs what do you mean

[odd berry]

and the gacha dude

sry game* dude

[gleaming rover]

he has reasoning

[odd berry]

he jsut can insult nothing more

nah

[gleaming rover]

yes

[frozen ledge]

bro, how to beat terror hell 3?

he do speed blitz in all my suports and hk in my team

[gleaming rover]

just be fast and have a insane dmg diting

[frozen ledge]

and i cant farm doki doki because i cant farm atq guear

[gleaming rover]

and valeri max s3 to survive

[odd berry]

you can Criticize but not insulting

[hollow iris]

you click the book near the boss name see what other people are doing and copy paste, otherwise you kick rocks

[hollow iris]

the game gets polite criticism, you are contemptable and deserve no such respect.

for being a shill

[odd berry]

sure and u jsut straight up bad af

thats why u mad

[hollow iris]

betting im a higher rank than you

still doing a chargeback

[gleaming rover]

well i think i just called them retards, i think polite criticism is out the window

ma bad

[odd berry]

nice for u no one cares move on

[hollow iris]

lmao, i can only speak for myself

[hollow iris]

i'll move on when the chargebacks processed OR when devs wake up and fix shit, whichever is faster.

[odd berry]

sad its take that long

[hollow iris]

yea, bank is up to 30 days, min 7 days

is what i got told

so, just waiting

submitted couple days ago ✊

[odd berry]

i cashed like 800 now? i dont charge back i dont rly care tbh when games die its die thats a normal thing nowadays

but i guess each person is different

[hollow iris]

if it was a natural EOS after the games lifespan i wouldn't attempt a chargeback (nor would i have grounds to)

but this is just false advertising and a really bad product

scummy practices

deserves to be punished

[odd berry]

i jsut wait what will happen

w or l we will see just hope everyone will be happy in the end

[hollow iris]

yea, i mean regardless peoples happiness is not contingent on this game, its a short term problem that'll either be resolved with chargebacks or by the devs

whichever

[odd berry]

yeah

[gleaming rover]

bruh how is everyone gonna be happy after a big L?

do you like the pain

[hollow iris]

i was just formerly an excited player, i even left my union because i like those guys and don't want them associated with my negativity lmao (nor do i wanna kill their joy for the game) so its one of those things where the more you like something the deeper the betrayal

[odd berry]

idc realy about the money tbh the games die i move on the games live and recover its good not hard tbh @gleaming rover

[gleaming rover]

thats called moving on not being happy

its like leaving your toxic ex

[hollow iris]

i mean part of moving on is finding new happiness, right?

like you're healed or what have you

[odd berry]

i saw enough of this same shit happened so i dont realy suffer ^^

[gleaming rover]

shit relationship, sex was good tho

this is how this game feels

[odd berry]

sry

[hollow iris]

my sides 🤣

[odd berry]

he dont got his döner today

[gleaming rover]

speaking straight facts

[odd berry]

yeah no döner

[gleaming rover]

i can give you free hairtransplant tho, you need it nerd

[odd berry]

nah im not bald as asmon

[gleaming rover]

asmon is my goat, most handsome guy alive

[odd berry]

you live in is attic anyways

🪳

or

your choice

[gleaming rover]

bro you are the rat here always beefing ppl and not letting them state their opinions

[odd berry]

i said my opinion so they beefed me for it so i beef back simple

and u are one of them

[gleaming rover]

[odd berry]

so stop talking about that

its called doppelmoral

and u know i kiss your eyes ❤️

[gleaming rover]

your opinion is running in circles chasing your own tail and moving on? where are the arguments?

while people here have a REAL REASON to be mad

[odd berry]

i said dot nerf 100% deserved but its not writin down in patch notes is not ok

[gleaming rover]

i kiss your eyebrows goodbye soon

[waxen rain]

boycott the new banners until we get our resets

[odd berry]

[gleaming rover]

facts

[waxen rain]

we don't have lattices for them anyway

[gleaming rover]

i will pull tho please forgive me

[waxen rain]

bruh

lmao

[odd berry]

boycott döner and hairtransplant from @gleaming rover

[neon dune]

ez fix: give free reset for another wek

[odd berry]

before he paid is tax

[gleaming rover]

and my 1400 crsytals

[odd berry]

never

[gleaming rover]

that i wasted for resets

[odd berry]

not wasted

[neon dune]

well.. thats ur choice

[odd berry]

invested*

[neon dune]

xD

lmao

[odd berry]

100% xd

[gleaming rover]

they left me hanging

craaaaazzyyy

[odd berry]

why not same as linkin park hanging in the living room?

[neon dune]

i think compensation + free reset should suffice

[odd berry]

[gleaming rover]

nah bro dont do jester like that

[odd berry]

i do i do him dirty

[gleaming rover]

nah but frfr dont badmouth dead people

depression is a real and mad thing

[odd berry]

i have one thing to say always when ppl do suicide you dont deserved the life you can search help liked him to but he lsot respect

[odd berry]

true but u cna get help

hard take but on this im iron

[gleaming rover]

i swear to got u are such a DUMBASS

im actually having tears laughing

[odd berry]

bro sry but its my opinion i liked him too xd

[odd berry]

[gleaming rover]

your opinion is always "you can just" no freaking arguments

[odd berry]

why should i? its my opinion

[gleaming rover]

bro in these cases we dont have to do shit

they have to do something about it

[odd berry]

yeah write it down in notes

and thats it

[gleaming rover]

no

gimme 100 LD summons or riot

[odd berry]

no? xd

[gleaming rover]

kek

[odd berry]

u like this ppl now where want 1500 sums at the start of the game

[gleaming rover]

yes

free=good

[odd berry]

move on

by the love of god

xd

[gleaming rover]

see

[odd berry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-licking-gif-15650487567340907664

[gleaming rover]

your catchphrase

change your name you damn MoveOn pokemon

[odd berry]

yeah i say this

[odd berry]

.

[gleaming rover]

yea but im laughing cause you are a brick

[odd berry]

and you was bricked

so we are brothers?

damn

[gleaming rover]

yes and i unbricked to be bricked again

[odd berry]

good choice

true chad

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952829324585734204/1076225215715094618/talkgif.gif

lit me to u

[gleaming rover]

lets leave this chat now

[odd berry]

https://tenor.com/view/this-isnt-enough-samus-paulicelli-66samus-insufficient-i-need-more-gif-21074969

https://tenor.com/view/tate-andrew-tate-tate-bugatti-gif-26102951

[rich granite]

Okay let’s not use a gif of a human trafficker lol.

[odd berry]

[gleaming rover]

his motto is move on and the humans have indeed been moved on

[rich granite]

That is fucking hilarious. (The joke not the situation. It is a tragedy what is happening to those women)

[gleaming rover]

yea i kinda feel bad that i just typed that (intrusive toughts won) may god bless these poor women

[odd berry]

https://tenor.com/view/houseparty-belt-beltspank-gif-12663614749889620304

[odd berry]

"sure" xd

[placid raft]

Sooooo still no word from the devs?

Just "please pull on our new banners :)" from what I'm seeing?

[atomic yew]

Yeah they're not going to fix anything

Is what it is

[placid raft]

Wow. That's insane. And 2x banners at the same time 13d each btw. greedy ass company.

[foggy cliff]

I mean that's normal? We had Massiah + Freya on release stoo

Basically it would be worse if an L/D banner appeared again

[swift falcon]

not if it's an existing LD unit

[atomic yew]

Apex and normal banner two technically separate resources it's arguable this is is worse than a normal and ldd banner

[placid raft]

I play a lot of gachas and I think 30d is pretty standard for new character banners, and new units usually don't drop at the same time. It's usually new + rerun if there's multiple. 2 new units at the same time for 13d is greedy.

[swift falcon]

one new banner + one existing LD would have been tolerable

[atomic yew]

So I don't think that argument makes any sense rbh

[foggy cliff]

LD pulls are much rarer though but yeah an existing L/D banner running would have been better

[atomic yew]

Eth two weeks is the norm these days for a lot of games no issue there

[placid raft]

2 new units dropping at the same time with less than 2 weeks to pull for them is blatant greed I don't think there's any arguing that.

[atomic yew]

This is true

[foggy cliff]

New RGB + New LD < 2 New RGB < 1 New RGB + 1 Old LD basically

[atomic yew]

Well it'll technically be 2rgb and an old ld banner rn massiag will also end

[foggy cliff]

This is the type of game where characters are released very fast and very quickly. I'm curious how often they'll rerun old characters though

[atomic yew]

Not that by of this matters lol people who like the game will continue to play, though they've probably hemmoraged what 20% of the player base off mess ups so far + natural decay of people quitting after honeymoon. Will be interesting to see where the player base stabilizes. I think in two months they're gonna have to remerge all the servers tbh

[placid raft]

I'm fine with very fast releases, just not 2 at a time. Especially when you kind of need to max stam refresh at this stage still too.

They're making it feel like a cash grab

[tawdry turret]

with everything they did i don't think they plan to keep servers open more than 1 year

[placid raft]

Not addressing concerns properly, repeatedly messing up, not communicating or caring about player feedback on said mess ups, and rapidly releasing characters at the same time. it just feels like a blatant cash grab at this point which is sad.

[rich granite]

That’s exactly what it feels like

[steel ravine]

every single person I have talked to is frustrated with pve progression

[willow basalt]

You guys like walking in circles here

[steel ravine]

they can't beat hell 3/4 and they feel that investing stamina in any other mode gives no progression to their units neither

I do think we will have a big drop of players pretty soon that will just quit because they feel they are not progressing at all at account level 35+

[willow basalt]

That's fair

Progress is rng

[steel ravine]

at 42 I am farming exp, which feels like no progress at all but there is nothing else to do other than do shells to stock materials for the level 45 shells

[steel ravine]

not only rng, there is no rng if you can't even beat the stuff in the first place

I can do hell 2 of all three bosses even if I forget to equip stuff to my units

I can't do terror and aurora at all at hell 3, and I can only do dokidoki hell 4 on manual

it doesn't feel right

[willow basalt]

Currency is inconsistent too

[steel ravine]

and I need hell 3 because 2 set pieces doesn't do anything for me anymore

[placid raft]

Everyone I know is saying the same thing. c did say that he would be bringing this up to the devs but who knows if theyll do anything about it soon enough. Whatever they did from beta -> live has made pve an absolute slog though, its awful

[willow basalt]

Oh well

[placid raft]

idk I'm not cool with just saying "oh well" when I and a lot of other people have put a lot of money into the game. Gonna keep bringing it up until its fixed or I charge back lol

[steel ravine]

yeah I am genuinely confused if they intended for thresold bosses to be as hard as they are now

[odd berry]

thats skill issue

[steel ravine]

grim pursuit feels like a joke compared to it

[odd berry]

i clear h3 and 4

[steel ravine]

I don't even know the mechanics

[placid raft]

Oh here's this tool again

[steel ravine]

the giga gamer

[odd berry]

sry many of us clear it

sry for facts

[steel ravine]

yeah for sure your personal experience is relevant when compared to the overall feeling of the community

you are the main character after all

[copper nexus]

in the exact same weird ass situation

lol

not strong enough for terror

not strng enough to auto dokidoki

[steel ravine]

skill issue according to the giga gamer here

just git gud

[copper nexus]

perma farm shells forever and ever

i mena yea its true

[steel ravine]

you and 99% of the community that is complaining

[copper nexus]

the good players progressed further

but

like

[odd berry]

nah i jsut said h3 and h4 are clearable when u know what u do and have a bit gear

[copper nexus]

i shouldn't need to be the perfect player

just to progress day by day

on day 7 or 8 of launch

lol

[placid raft]

clearable =/= farmmable. just bc you can clear it doesn't mean it's at a stage where it's something you can farm reliably 100x a day. It's also very very character reliant so if you didn't pull some units youre sol

it's overtuned and everyone knows it

[odd berry]

i have all units except of 5 ssrs

[neon dune]

do ppl expect tobe at lvl40 end game by now?

[placid raft]

bro we're like lvl 47+

[steel ravine]

I expect to clear level 35 content at level 35 my man

[neon dune]

ooh dam are u f2p?

[copper nexus]

i think its semi fair that u can clear at that level

[lean needle]

Yo any update on this? The Dev gonna give some reset or not? Need info

[copper nexus]

and then by 5 levels above

[willow basalt]

Hope people get their money back, I didn't spend anything because knowledge from beta helped me reach lv40 and hell difficulty. That said, this game is unbalanced

[copper nexus]

u should be able to farm it consistently

[odd berry]

no

[foggy cliff]

Nothing stops a f2p from being 47 by now just need to use stam pots irresponsibly

[lean needle]

Welp gonna kms

[placid raft]

no, and it's still miserable so gl as f2p. you can be this lvl tho by max stam refreshing

[odd berry]

[neon dune]

i think the game does a bad job of showing u where the hard stuck areas in termf of content are in the g ame

[copper nexus]

like u guys mentioned yesterday, its definitely silly that we would need lattices and skill upgrades on pve characters just to farm stages. But i def think u should be required to do some team comp optimization and have some strategies

[steel ravine]

no announcement about 2x drops, it might take months for us to have it for all that we know (which is another really stupid thing that they forced into us)

but hey, they promised to be better at communication 🤡

just believe

[foggy cliff]

I mean, I'm going to level 50 and then stopping using stam pots

[neon dune]

games still young , devs are open to feedback i dont see this as a EOS thing

[steel ravine]

they only reason I don't use mine is because even if I use 1k+ worth of stamina it would make absolute no difference in my progression

[lean needle]

Dev if you read this thread just give us some reset man

[steel ravine]

I would have max level units, with maxed shells and would still need the meta units to beat hell 4

[lean needle]

Appreciate it

[foggy cliff]

Diting says hi

[steel ravine]

what if I don't have a striper for aurora?

[foggy cliff]

Doki just needs Rilmocha though Kloss, Mio, Lily, Beyontin, etc can help.

[steel ravine]

what if I don't have kloss?

[foggy cliff]

There are stripper SRs?

[steel ravine]

do you see them on the clear records?

[lean needle]

Gray should work

[neon dune]

the roster size being small will be fixed with time xD

[foggy cliff]

Yeah? Viper. Unless you going for top speed clears then of course you need meta lmao

[steel ravine]

what if I don't have viper?

[foggy cliff]

But if you just want clear there are options

[steel ravine]

it is not even speed clear

aurora hits like a truck

we can't win with just lingluo and prayers

[foggy cliff]

Yeah you bring Red Chiaki and Lingluo

[steel ravine]

the fact that I cleared 41 floors of ember

[foggy cliff]

You also technically can ignore def break. Technically

[neon dune]

dam skill issue chat said

[steel ravine]

but can't do hell 3 on daily farm content

is so stupid

it is always skill issue when people want to feel good about themselves, nothing new

[neon dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-awkward-awkward-cat-cat-awkward-gif-24906225

[foggy cliff]

There's literally teams of Freya, Valerian, Linguo, Lily, Diting clearing this

Though I guess thats a Lily team

[pine jasper]

so greedy only gave us 500 pulls

[neon dune]

wont accept anything less than 1k

[foggy cliff]

Oooh found one

Diting, Lingluo, Chiaki the Echo, Viper, Dinah.

And its a 2 min clear

[pine jasper]

we get a rerun LD unit i would assume

[foggy cliff]

Like seriously people

[pine jasper]

they only teased Yeli in the trailer

[steel ravine]

you have those units? try to replicate the comp and show us how it goes 👍

surely it will work

I believe

[foggy cliff]

Damn I'm stuck on 30 (Sharon), hence I am building a Diting

[steel ravine]

ah F

when you hit 35 you will understand

@ us here when you do

[foggy cliff]

Got 1 min Clears on all Hell IV content though except Aurora

[steel ravine]

wait 🤔

ah, on ember

I thought you meant level

[foggy cliff]

No as in Embers floor 30

[foggy cliff]

I'm still building Diting. Might honestly build Viper for Aurora too or see if Lily can just power through Diting and not need def break

[steel ravine]

but anyway, pve progression is just not rewarding enough, you can't farm stuff that you are supposed to farm and the things you can farm feels like it adds no value at all, this is the bottom line

if x or y player feels different because they have x or y units (or is a giga chad gamer) it is irrelevant

[foggy cliff]

I'm stuck on Sharon since I don't have a good DPS for it

[steel ravine]

what matters is the overall feeling of the player base, not singular cases

I had 4 brazilian players asking me for feedback and tips since day 1, all 4 already quit

because they got stuck

and those are players who are actively seeking advice to progress

[foggy cliff]

Its same with Summoners War/E7 games though

[steel ravine]

imagine the more casual player how they feel

[pine jasper]

they dont give a fuck cause casuals dont look at reddit or discord. They jsut play the game

[quaint jasper]

I can't speak for summoner's war but for e7 they literally give you everything you need to farm the highest difficulty hunt. Both the units and the gear

[steel ravine]

a game without casuals die, because the player base will be low and whales will move to a different game

it is the 101 of gacha, everyone knows

they need to make it appealing for the f2p but also make just the right amount of incentive for spenders

if the game is unplayable for f2p there is no game at all

[pine jasper]

i think you underestimate the amount of ppl who give a fuck

[quaint jasper]

One of my guild/discord mates quit the game because he got hardstuck because even though he built the units the guides were saying to build it still wasn't working

For e7's new player experience just build the units and put the gear they give you on the units (it doesn't even matter how it rolls) and your team works

[copper nexus]

and dw man. "we hear you"

[steel ravine]

I feel that we will get big drop in player number this week and that XD won't understand the core reason

[copper nexus]

this is exactly so far what is making me hugely frustrated

i hae the perfect account

i follow the veterans advice

and then i get stuck

when everyone else around me progresses

LOL

its true its highly likely a skill issue

but like

i did my due diligence so there's not a whole much more i can do tbh

[prisma orbit]

that was your first mistake

[placid raft]

its not everyone around you, most people progressing are manual battling and failing a lot still. this is significantly harder than beta

when f2p reach these stages ppl are gonna quit

[copper nexus]

i mean yeanow i realized the best way to learn

is take a look at speed clear gears

take a look at recent clears

[prisma orbit]

yea look at the recent clears

[copper nexus]

and generally find the most important unit

like

before this whole issue

i dont' remember seeing

valerian used fro terror that much

[prisma orbit]

check if recent clear is auto or manual

[copper nexus]

kloss i think so

but now valerian is so giga important

[prisma orbit]

Valerian makes it just so much safer

[copper nexus]

yea

the number 1 rta player

literally said

valerian is the best support in the game

LOL

[prisma orbit]

ehhh no debuff removeall and really low healing tho

[copper nexus]

yea but does healing really help in terror

when ur units are always at risk at getting oneshot

even if you can outheal

its unlikely to be consistent

[prisma orbit]

yours are? mine arent

[foggy cliff]

Yes if you run high enough def

Hence Artisan and even DIamond Bear are so nice on squishies

[copper nexus]

well yea ofc

[prisma orbit]

use artisan

[copper nexus]

yea

starting to buidl them now

what set gear tho

swiftrush with what

[prisma orbit]

what team u using

first of all

[copper nexus]

terro?

uhhhh

i think i auto hell 1 with diting rilmocha dps

and then i keep trying to swap things with my support to find smth that works

between

[prisma orbit]

rilmocha?

?

[copper nexus]

mio, lily, marvel, dinah, freya, valerian

rilmocha is only there to hit the boss first

to get the crit rate thing on diting

i don't need it to clear but for auto

more consistent

but thats more cheesy cuz i genuinely don't know what to do LOL

[prisma orbit]

mio marvel dont work in terror

[copper nexus]

ik its not gonna work higher terror

yea

but then without them i just get 2 turned and one shot

even running artisans

my artisan doesn't even pop

cuz i die before that point

[prisma orbit]

whats your gear

[copper nexus]

lol

[prisma orbit]

purple yellow is it +15?

and is artisan max?

[foggy cliff]

Lily => Freya doesn't work?

[copper nexus]

i just die in hell 2 whatever i try so thats why i kinda gave up and am now just perma famring shells

lol

gear is uploading

phone taking forever to upload lmaooo

[odd berry]

ditting freya kloss hellkid and valerian

auto clear h3 and h4

[foggy cliff]

Ngl farming shells is value anyway

[copper nexus]

lol my screenshots refusing to upload

xd

can we not

upload pictuers here

or smth

LOL

keeps failing

.>

[odd berry]

shadow nerf

screenshots

dc is doomed

[copper nexus]

oh no its discord

LMAO

jesus christ

[odd berry]

xd

i just joking

[copper nexus]

no it actually is tho

LOL

xddd

[placid raft]

discord seems to be having issues today, havent been able to upload screenshots even in DMs today

[copper nexus]

yea same

and sometimes my messages just fail too

the entire world

is falling apart

[odd berry]

wordl shadow nerfs

[copper nexus]

my other main game maplestory is also in a whole WORLD of fucked rn

LMAO

[odd berry]

[flat anchor]

They really don't seem to understand that this will snowball.

People will refuse to invest or even pull for OP units because the devs could just nerf your investment on a whim and then it's ay lmao bye lattice and summon tickets

Even if they actually start saying things in advance, if there's never any compensation what's the point?

"Ay lmao Massiah is getting nerfed in a week, enjoy Player!"

[copper nexus]

i honestly think that argument is just cope lol

this entire issue was never about

buffs and nerfs lmao

the core of the issue is that

changes were made

[flat anchor]

I'm sure what they want us to think is that there's a possibility that Sania is just gonna get buffed at some point

[copper nexus]

these changes were not communicated

[flat anchor]

but again that's asuming they know what they're doing

[copper nexus]

and their crisis management and PR responses

are extremely shit

and insufficient

thats it

[flat anchor]

which I don't think they do atm

[copper nexus]

its not that deep

theyre just out fo touch and have shit communication skills LOL

[foggy cliff]

I'm surprised they atleast didn't say anything about resets up until now shees

[hollow iris]

and there PVE is kinda shit, shadow sania at least had a niche of letting people get through the garbage pve content

😛

sorry rephrased, because i like ember trek and the co op

the farming is shit.

really shit.

[flat anchor]

I love when enemy AI is so random, I can win 4 times and then lose 6 times because the AI decides to hyper focus a single character

[placid raft]

Yeah if they want dmg to be high they need designated tanks / a tank slot imo

[hollow iris]

there are many different solutions

we will likely get none of them

[flat anchor]

There needs to be more taunting to protect units

[stuck delta]

but dots are too strong 💀

aurora lmao

[flat anchor]

there's literally nothing you can do if the AI decides to just burst your supports

[hollow iris]

f a i r and BALANCED

[flat anchor]

Millions of purple lattice gonna be gone once he's gutted too

[stuck delta]

wont matter then

[hollow iris]

again, i just don't get why farming has to be difficult the thing you do 100+ times a day

[stuck delta]

wont happen for 3 months

[hollow iris]

just why

[stuck delta]

and by then theyll have all the gear they need

[hollow iris]

bold to assume this game has a community in 3 months

and that people will happily throw themselves into the brick wall for 3 months

[stuck delta]

its easy to find people to spend a million a month on a game

[hollow iris]

if you say so

[stuck delta]

whats hard is getting to the 3-5m threshold

[steel ravine]

there is absolute no way people will endure 3 months of this pve progression

they even sell for an absurd price as the level 40 package two modules that should be easy to get but they aren't since you need to beat aurora hell 3/4 for that and it is just not as accessible as it should be (as a level 35 content btw)

[placid raft]

Black Beacon / Infinity Nikki are perfect examples of games that prove if devs don't listen to their playerbase it kills the game. People are not happy with XD/Etheria right now so if the game isn't fun and feels like a chore on top of it? They will not be finding enough players for that.

[steel ravine]

a handful of meta units to beat content and even then most clears that you can check in-game are manual ones

[wicked mantle]

Small correction, Aurora Hell is 40*

[steel ravine]

it is mega depressing

[wicked mantle]

Important to me because I finished Doki Hell 4 at 35 and am working on Terror in a bit before I hit 40 to tackle Aurora

[pine jasper]

why cant you just move on XD. Many ppl me included are not happy with the situation but some of you guys are just pure toxic. Just chargeback and move on. Cant be that hard

[placid raft]

How about you move on and stop trying to police what people want to give as feedback?

[pine jasper]

yeah FEEDBACK

sure buddy

[steel ravine]

it is literally feedback dude

with even context

[placid raft]

Yes. Feedback that the PvE feels miserable right now. That is feedback.

You're the one not contributing to this in any way.

[steel ravine]

aurora feels like terror for me, can auto hell 2 even with wrong sets at 100% rate but can't do hell 3 no matter what

[pine jasper]

we all alrdy said our things once in this 10k fedback thread its jsut you sad ppl who act like children

[steel ravine]

doki I can do manual hell 4 but I would prefer to hit my head on a brick than doing that

[placid raft]

Just because you don't like the feedback doesn't mean it's not feedback and that voicing it isn't valid. Sorry.

[wicked mantle]

I mean I feel like people would calm down if they addressed the issue. And they haven’t so.

[steel ravine]

you are the one going out of your way to interact with said kids

feels a lot more pathetic really

[pine jasper]

They addressd it on a post

[potent harness]

Road to 100k for shitty practices

[pine jasper]

which wasnt the answer you want so you keep cry

[placid raft]

This too, they're doing absolutely nothing as the community is livid so it's very concerning for people who have spent on this game.

[pine jasper]

uhh so many kids at once

[wicked mantle]

Well yes, if the answer is dissatisfactory, the community definitely has a right to complain. They are paying consumers, why wouldn’t they be able to?

[pine jasper]

how can they recover from this if you guys leave

[placid raft]

not accepting slop = being a child. You heard it here first guys.

[steel ravine]

don't hit him too hard with logic, he will tilt

[pine jasper]

keep going guys hope you have time to play the game

[hollow iris]

the address was "lol sorry"

it didn't actually help

at all

nor address core issues about the shadow activity

[pine jasper]

i know but it was addressed and ppl mvoe on you can always vote with your wallet.

[hollow iris]

or the even deeper core that this games farming fucking sucks

[pine jasper]

they def got PR damage

and once they fuck up again it will come up again

[stoic pier]

Any sort of update on the matter?

[hollow iris]

i am voting with my wallet, i have a chargeback pending. My bank has a 30 day processing time. I'm happy to cancel if they take their headso ut of their butts

[hollow iris]

"roll the new units 🙂 "

"account selling bad"

[pine jasper]

doesnt look like they will

[stoic pier]

Oh but of course

[livid rampart]

Rework dot mechanic pls

That's all I ask

Don't even want apologems

[stoic pier]

And when they nerf those too I'm gonna roll the new ones like a good boy

[prisma orbit]

cuz they are children... they been in this thread all day yesterday and it seems all day today...

[stoic pier]

🤓

[hollow iris]

welcome back shill

i see the cocks still in your mouth, maybe take it out before you speak

[copper nexus]

yunno funny enough

i was looking at the speed clears for terror

and i was surprised to see rockuidiot up there

[prisma orbit]

my clear time is slow

[thorn drum]

wait was there a dokidoki boss shadowbuff?

[prisma orbit]

All the people complaining pve is too hard, shadow sania nerfed is dumb

[compact barn]

Too many people letting this shit go easy will only show devs that they can do this or other bad shit to game and player will just eat it up as an oppsie. Black beacon pulled same shit as well and see what happen to that game no stream of that game are happening on twitch no CC making content for it or streaming that horrible game, lots of people left.

[prisma orbit]

no it was a bug, they fixing it

[thorn drum]

what was... the bug??

[hollow iris]

maybe we dont know

They say they're bug fixing tonight

[prisma orbit]

boss had buff did too much dmg

[hollow iris]

but last bug fix buffed aurora and terror

so fuck if we know

[thorn drum]

boss dies too easy, oopsie, bug, now suffer

[prisma orbit]

bruh they are making it easier

[hollow iris]

source

your ass

[thorn drum]

oh so boss get buff that kill our team ookkk

[hollow iris]

the patch notes are vague af

[thorn drum]

ok thats good then if true

[prisma orbit]

read the patch notes, oh i forgot u dont know how to read

[hollow iris]

the patch notes are vague

[compact barn]

There is no source devs are fixing shit for all we know they will leave it as is

[thorn drum]

what else is new?

[flat anchor]

because they refuse to give us auto skill priority

[frail cape]

Yea, it's crazy we see companies do this again and again, and every time there's still a handful of people like "this is fine, it's really not that bad, I'll make excuses for pretty much anything they want to do" despite countless examples of this sort of behavior from corporations absolutely ruining their business

[tired jungle]

Lol no. I did nothing manual 😂

[frail cape]

Idk how many times this lesson has to be learned

[hollow iris]

you must've gone blind from the cum in your eyes

this is vague af

[flat anchor]

again

I don't even know what this means

[frail cape]

Just ignore them, they'll stick around as long as people are responding to them

[flat anchor]

what are "abnormal buffs"

what was wrong with the enemies?

[prisma orbit]

skill issue if u cant auto

[hollow iris]

no i will actively mock them for the unpaid cocksucking shills they are

[flat anchor]

XD can you communicate properly or are you just using AI all the time?

[hollow iris]

wrong, 'built the wrong units if you cant auto' because this games farming balance is dogshit

[hollow iris]

definitely AI

Immediately after promising better communication (in there tone deaf and awful reddit post)

posts vague af notes

amazing

C must be head in hands rn

[thorn drum]

to be fair, hey cant change the communication structure withing half a day of getting the feedback

[compact barn]

Yeah devs are not your friend and they will do everything to get your money no matter how scummy it needs to be, I mean some do better job than others on communicating and just being nice to players but most asian devs just do not give a shit and just wanna milk players to pay to investors

[thorn drum]

chances are the ptchnotes and the patch itself as decided a couple days ago

[hollow iris]

its just a patch note X_X you can proof read before pressing send

sure, the patch itself is decided

but notes can be edited

nobody gave them a read through and went "ay this is kinda vague"

especially since its the first proper communication they made since the shit reddit post

[worn elm]

It doesn't take a whole revamp of a department to do better than "changed abnormal buffs"

[thorn drum]

i mean

if it said removed "BUFFS"

rfrom the boss

it cant be bad

[hollow iris]

fixed - not removed

that could mean the buff didn't work as intended

that can mean it should be stronger

that can mean ti should be weaker

we dont know

[thorn drum]

abnormal implies imo that those were NOT intended buffs on the enemies

[hollow iris]

abnormal just means not intended

it does not inherently imply removal

[compact barn]

I mean sure by that logic devs can just put out patch notes saying "Fixed Shit in game" and call it a day

[flat anchor]

is C the only actual human remotely associated with this company that's still talking to us?
Since Jack has just gone to the shadow realm

[thorn drum]

yeah i see how you mean its vague lol

i could mean anything, up to reader to interpret, which is not whatpatchnotes are lol

[hollow iris]

and its immediately after promising better clarity

like holy crap

[hollow iris]

yes

[thorn drum]

maybe some theory crafter can chime in and see what even changed in the fight

[hollow iris]

well the change itself hasn't dropped yet

its tonight

[thorn drum]

BUUUUT i will say, i am able to auto hell 3 now with the same team that couldnt auto yesterday

[hollow iris]

just sounds like the auto rng

[thorn drum]

and auto means auto 90% of the time success

[hollow iris]

lots of people reported wild swings in auto rng

over the past couple days

[thorn drum]

i played like 30 runs

[hollow iris]

yea, and someone went from 100% to 0% with the same units a couple days ago

[thorn drum]

the enemies definitely do less damage than yesterday i personally feel like

[hollow iris]

thats just feeling

literally nothing changed last night

[compact barn]

they need to write what was changes just saying buffs means shit what was done did they increase value or lowered it or changed something else in that skill, who fucking knows you just have to play then and see what happens I guess.

[thorn drum]

welp... might just be my bias here then, but definitely the patchnotes are ass rn

[hollow iris]

they're definitely ass, objectively there should be no room for interpretation in patch notes

[thorn drum]

they need to specify it buffs were removed or repaired and what the abnormal buffs even are, atleast then people can see if the abnormal biffs are there or not now

[hollow iris]

holy late to the party

it worked in beta

it continued to work in global

they stealth "fixed" it

[prisma orbit]

Thats exactly what happened

[flat anchor]

the problem is just that they're lying

there's nothing to "fix"

[hollow iris]

they've demonstrated that they're either malicious or maliciously incompetent

[flat anchor]

it wasn't bugged

they just didn't like DoT performing that well

[steel ravine]

players couldn't even "read" the description because it was level 30 content

[flat anchor]

but they don't want to just say it for whatever reason

[prisma orbit]

which u unlock day 3 if max refresher...

and hotfix was day 6

[steel ravine]

don't talk to me, thanks

[prisma orbit]

lol okay keep spreading misinfo then

[flat anchor]

Same thing with Sharon vs Aurora

[hollow iris]

The fact is Shadow Sania worked in beta. Content creators talked about Shadow Sania. Prydwen and hellhades rated shadow sania highly in aurora. Do the developers just not look at their community at all? Did they not see "Tier 0 aurora Shadow Sania" being the normal sentiment and go "huh"

[flat anchor]

Sharon says something about DoT

Aurora never had anything about DoT

It had the same description as Terror

"immune to control effects besides taunt"

and it can't be a false localization because it literally worked

what a hell of a coincedence that a "misstranslation" just happens to line up exactly with a "bug"

[hollow iris]

If the developers are to be believed that they didn't see this backlash coming as well as the backlash about the dupes situation i have to believe that they just don't look at the community at all and that they either don't communicate with people like C or ignore what C has to say.

thats just incompetent

they're not to be trusted

[flat anchor]

Remember they want to do e sports with this game

[worn elm]

esports with hotfixes going out during the matches would be revolutionary for the scene

[compact barn]

Mid tournament fight nerfs

[compact barn]

That would be funny

[hollow iris]

Hotfix: Grays crit rate up was never intended to give an extra turn. Mislocalization its been removed.

Hotfix: Rilmochas damage was never meant to 100% cleave at S5, mislocalization its been removed.

[flat anchor]

"fixed an issue were Massiah would gain invincibility"

[hollow iris]

fixed an issue where heinrich could strip immunity

immunes in the word after all

[flat anchor]

"fixed an issue were Lily Skill 3 LvL 5 would reset cooldowns"

[hollow iris]

Hotfix: Obol dispel turned buffs into DoT

[flat anchor]

"we are not refunding your lattice lmao"

[hollow iris]

just give a quick extra kick to shadow sania while she's down

[brazen inlet]

This wouldn't be much of an issue if PvE wasn't the most difficult, RNG fest grind ever. You're gatelocked out of Shells (drop yellow shells for some reason, can't get certain shells since drop rates are not even listed and I swear they're different for each mythic shell), gatelocked out of gear (not even guaranteed to get 3 piece sets on the 2nd highest level terror 4 gear, not even guaranteed to get more than 2 substats on these mythic gears), gated by SSR lattices, gated on upgrading gold, gated on upgrading shell materials/configurations, gated on even what PvE units we can invest). Like does XD expect us to take a year to get into PvP properly?

By the way they plan to host "worlds qualifier swiss stage" at 6/28. Who actually is going to even have anything built when they gate whales with what maybe enough lattices to fully upgrade 1 skill a week?

[compact barn]

The holly text

[prisma orbit]

The game isnt suppose to be finished in 2 weeks....

[flat anchor]

Easy, only whales will attend these

Or you know if you actually want to have a true competition you give people dev accounts

and let them use everything

[wicked mantle]

I agree that the game shouldn’t be finished in two weeks. But then why are the world qualifiers 3 weeks after launch lol

[prisma orbit]

no clue

[compact barn]

Because of people like you most games go to shit cuz people like you just let it slip by, if we allow them to pull this shit now no matter how small it may seem who is to say they will not do something that is worst.

[prisma orbit]

but lets be real, only the top rta people who really care about are attending

[prisma orbit]

doomposting aint helping

[brazen inlet]

They can easily make other PvE content that's end game other than the grind
Like weekly PvE challenge unlocking at level 60 that gets one gold lattice a week
Could make ember trek more difficult so people grind gear to farm those rewards, but the entry level to anything is way too high currently
Do you think 1 year grind to "complete" the game sounds reasonable?

[flat anchor]

Imma be honest I like the game so I want it to do well and be good.

But the devs are acting like they want to speedrun EoS

that's all

[pine jasper]

wtf the whole game is grind gear = pvp

[prisma orbit]

yea they can make other pve content but that takes time, it took them 3 months to create GVG since january after feedback

[pine jasper]

if you cant grind than thats on you

[flat anchor]

This game is not even CLOSE to popular enough to be able to pull all this nonsense and get away with it

They're acting very out of touch

[rich granite]

Not acting. They are out of touch

[flat anchor]

?

I didn't designs the bosses bro

wasn't me who decided to make an entire team unusable

[pine jasper]

well msot ppl seem to beat those stages you guys seem tos truggle with

[steel ravine]

the fact that we can count in one hand those who are here being a professional slop eater tells a lot about how the player base feels about the situation

[flat anchor]

because they spent money?

[pine jasper]

you can even watch the runs and it ahs alot of diffrent teams doing it

[pine jasper]

see you have no clue

[sudden kelp]

If the boss clearly stated that it should be immune, then fixing it's immunity is fair.

For me as a heavy DoT investor, who didn't follow the trend and actually read on what I was getting myself into, I knew of the limitations I was putting forth for myself going down this path.

The issue in my opinion is how weak DoT is, and supposed to initially be. It was strong because it didn't work as it was supposed to. Now that it is, it needs a buff, cause it's unfair to see people running Diting for every content whilst DoT is limited to only a few.

[prisma orbit]

wdym dot works on everything aside from sharon and aurora

[flat anchor]

enlighten us then since you seem to know what's really truly going on oh wise Jin

[hollow iris]

Nero this is an incredibly tone deaf excuse of a post, its pretentious, sanctomonious and with a 'holier than thou' attitude. You speak of delivering feedback in the 'correct' manner while making an arse in out of how you conduct yourself. That said, with me mocking you for your public performance out of the way I will engage with your post regardless.

This chaos and outrage is because of a huge issue developer trust has been broken. It belies an even larger issue that farming in this game is dogshit. The situation "being clarified" is a half assed apology that doesn't address the core issue or the issue that lurks beneath (the farming). You don't get it likely because the idea of being passionate about something and disapointed by it and wanting to express that, the righteous rage it creates as well as enact change is likely foreign to you. People can be fulfilled without being positive 24/7 - as for whether this is productive or not we have yet to judge. Maybe the developers (will actually listen* maybe i will cancel my pending chargeback). Maybe not, but i got to direct the energy of my passion for this game here and express myself. Thats valuable in its own way.

Trying to tell people to move on and give your blessing that it's ok to move on is the clownish behavior of a shill. This paragraph is disgusting. You disgust me. It is not inherently emotionally draining to engage in self expression and to have passion, even if that passion has been directed into negativity. Different personality types exist and conflict may drive YOU into depression, but it excites and energizes me who WANTED to love this game and feels BETRAYED for it. I will eventually move on - on my own terms and not when you tell me to. Ass.

"why all the drama?" because the developers have been quite frankly, malicious and incompetent. Cartoonishly evil even. They deserve to be called out not have their boots licked by cucks like you.

Anger and hate has indeed solved things in the past. I don't care if they feel good about how they receive my feedback, i care about whether they understand the betrayals they have done and the upcoming consequences for it when the game goes EOS.

In conclusion, go kick rocks you pretentious shill.

[placid raft]

It's not even worth engaging with the people defending this.

[flat anchor]

Boss never had a single line about DoT

[pine jasper]

what you want me to say click on threshold look up hell3/4 and you can see the runs. You can watch the runs even. And those teams are not p2w

[sudden kelp]

Other contents begs to differ, such as guild boss.

[pine jasper]

apart from 1-2 crazy stackd massa runs

[prisma orbit]

oh forgot the guild bosses and the phantom theater

but aside those 4 it works

[sudden kelp]

People claims it had, though that is why I stated if, if it didn't then god damn they really screwed up lol

I cant remember all that I read

[steel ravine]

what an analogy my dude

[prisma orbit]

no one took a photo of it on day 3 welp. if only there was the photo everything would be clear

[hollow iris]

speak after you take etherias cock out of your mouth

[worn elm]

Never seen a brain death patient type so much

[hollow iris]

You are a lowly person, allergic to conflict who can't handle other people expressing hatred after having been betrayed.

Refer to my long post

Go kick rocks

[brazen inlet]

It did have text, people are misinformed. The main issue is that the playerbase not being happy about PvE itself, which is def a concern

[pine jasper]

dude stop talking like you know who likes pve or not. Its literlly only the same 10 ppl here who cry

[sudden kelp]

Which in my opinion is important too, and also is useless in PvP, and managed against by PvE cleanses against NPCs that isn't immune but can clense. Too many weak points compared to one-shot diting

[flat anchor]

where? do you have a Screenshot?

[brazen inlet]

yes

[flat anchor]

can you pull it up?

[placid raft]

youd think you were on their payroll, but you're not. Which is why this is even more embarrassing for you. Funniest part is even the people on their payroll aren't defending it. C has already said it was poorly communicated and a poor change

[pine jasper]

if pve is to hard for you than its a skill issue tbh

[prisma orbit]

dot teams are mainly for farming imo, dot teams would be broken in union bosses and phantom theater as they dont really have a hp total?

[pine jasper]

10 angry bad player

[hollow iris]

Jin your feelings are not representative of the entire community - ours aren't necessarily either. However, there's more evidence to suggest people agree that the PVE is dogshit than disagree. Playing down these concerns is however, disgusting.

[wicked mantle]

One of my guildmates actually still don't have Diting and so they're walled out of a lot of the teams that people are using for this

[hollow iris]

To post on the reddit is one where i call Etherias pve dogshit

[pine jasper]

yeah reddit no ty

[brazen inlet]

#announcement message
mait was on the 9th, vid is from 8th

[foggy cliff]

Damn still no resets even until now

[hollow iris]

You don't get to play a "10 people" card then

and ignore evidence

[pine jasper]

evidence on what

[hollow iris]

that people dislike this games pve?

[prisma orbit]

oh u found the pic

[hollow iris]

its not the sentiment of 10 people

[prisma orbit]

nice

[hollow iris]

its a majority agreement

[pine jasper]

even if you can get 1k together thats nothing

[hollow iris]

actually, to go furhter not just dislike

this games PVE is dogshit

[hollow iris]

alright stick your head in the sand

be surprised when the game goes EOS

[pine jasper]

bc its challenging or why

[hollow iris]

if devs listen to shills like you

[odd berry]

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-failarmy-you-spin-my-right-round-fast-spinning-dizzy-spinning-gif-18029212

[compact barn]

Bru your take is totally braindead, sure I can leave, I mean we all could leave and then you can play game alone in room touching yourself if that is what you wish for. LIL bro you will not get anything from defending this game, they will not make you mod or give you free shit.

[odd berry]

this thread atm

[prisma orbit]

Theres proof it was always suppose to be immune to dots

[placid raft]

its already been established that the text was present on the boss. the issue was that the boss doesn't unlock until level 30 and it was not present in the patch notes for launch because this text was not in beta.

[pine jasper]

its day 6 cant beat hell4 oh shit even so you can as f2p

but lets say you cant whats the matter

farm something you can beat

[hollow iris]

if you play the game teh way the devs tell you to in your very narrow scope, sure

[prisma orbit]

they want end game gear 8 days after launch

[sudden kelp]

There is actually a total HP, it just has a resetting bar. DoT team can simply work off existing bar. It is not like the DoT remains. It gets used up once it does damage. There are other characters that runs through the boss bars with ease just as good as DoT if not better.

If devs believe something is OP, they shouldn't lock it, they should let it work less well. Adjust DoT to what they think is fair, not say it is PvE farming team but then don't allow it to be such, when there are characters that works great in all PvE content and PvP.

[hollow iris]

why is this game stuck in 2018

gear farming isn't supposed to be a challenge

thats for shit like ember trek

the co op mode

gear farming is just a chore

a thing you can do literally 100+ times a day

making it tortorous

is retarded

[pine jasper]

thats 90% of the game

[brazen inlet]

yes some1 wanted proof, I agree this is an issue of not communicating changes properly
and that PvE experience is really bad

[prisma orbit]

yea but the hp bar resets so how does dot work? i think they made dots not work as its too complicated to calculate 4% of a reseting bar

[hollow iris]

no it fucking isn't, for the people who can clear PVE quickly 90% of the game is arena, RTA and the pve events like the one that just dropped today

farming is just how yo ublow your stamina

its not meant to be a challenge

[pine jasper]

you farm gear forever in this game

[hollow iris]

agreed, but its not a challenge

its a chore

but for some reason these devs designed to turn it into torture

and make it a challenge

for what purpose

makes no fucking sense

[pine jasper]

bc we dont have units build/gear we are on day 6

[hollow iris]

People do have buildgears, day 4. In fact. They just invested in the "Correct" units

[pine jasper]

still beatable have to mention it

[flat anchor]

everything already is gated enough via lattice, shadowprints and no etheriacoin farming stage

[hollow iris]

Invested in the wrong units? Get fucked. Invested in the correct unit (Shadow sania) ya know what?

also go get fucked

evil ass game design to gate farming this way

[copper nexus]

we prostitutes now baby lets gooo

spread those legs

[prisma orbit]

u can farm shadowprints from exp stage so..... and buy from rta shop, arena shop, union shop

[copper nexus]

:3

[thorn drum]

i highly disagree.... its been super fun for me to make comps, yes i wasnt affected by the dot nerfs but even if i was, i wont say the pve is bad, its fun

[worn elm]

Me checking the recent clear times of non meta doki teams being 5+ minutes, yeah that's good for something that's done 10+ times a day

[flat anchor]

sure but why would you buy them over gold lattice?

[prisma orbit]

there extra currency over?

[hollow iris]

farming Hell 4 is "fun" for you? That tells me you made a meta team

[prisma orbit]

they legit let u buy a lattice and have lots of points left over

[hollow iris]

i can say with certainty, this is toture for me

[flat anchor]

you mean the currency you can't get more of because it's PvP and you will loose to people spending more than you?

[hollow iris]

6.5 minutes of manual gameplay to spend 10 stamina

[sudden kelp]

It's not difficult to code this in? This is very basic programming, I am sure others who have experience in development like me can agree. Bar resets counts as a new state, or make the DoT only count the current presented bar.

They already pretty much coded part of this function if not it entirely. The bar already divides the HP up for us to visually see, they can work off that.

[flat anchor]

RTA currency is hard capped to weekly

[prisma orbit]

???? even if u loose u get some points back

[flat anchor]

any other gains can't be relied on

[hollow iris]

Congrats you built the correct units!

I didn't

[hollow iris]

i have a S4S4S5 massiah, 5 characters with level 40 red shells, outstandign +15 gear and even the odd +15 mythic gear

still cant do hell 4

[prisma orbit]

u can just straight up loose rta to do the weekly cap

if u cant win

[flat anchor]

Little problem, I don't bave Rilmocha or Beyontin. I didn't even have Kraken until today.

[hollow iris]

The devs designed PVE to be "Build the units WE tell you to or you can fuck yourself!"

sorry not even PVE

the FARMING

Farming isn't even real fucking content

its just a fucking chore

[odd berry]

🍿

[prisma orbit]

unless u trying to 6 star everyone, theres plenty of shadow prints to make 5 stars

[prisma orbit]

thats why they made it countinous auto complete....

[hollow iris]

hey buddy This shit fucking sucks and isn't fun 5 starring isnt enough +15 outstanding modules isn't enough, level 40 red shells isn't enough

[hollow iris]

I can manual hell 4 but my team loses hell 2 on auto

[foggy cliff]

E7 and SW work the same way though

[odd berry]

second time u send it in 5 mins

nice time

[hollow iris]

2018 called gramps. No they dont.

Epic 7 u can farm end game in 3 days

for gear

[thorn drum]

well i dont have a lily on my account so you dont get to say im some meta slave with op units, the typical rilmocha with kazuya the reverie comp with defbreak and valerian

[prisma orbit]

idk why u using messiah on doki doki

thats ur biggest problem right there

[hollow iris]

Because my S1S1S3 6 star Rilm performs worse because she has less investment than my S4S4S5 Mass

[quaint jasper]

I'll just put this out there I've had several of my guild quit because they thought 4 - 6 minutes for a single run was too much

[worn elm]

"I'm not a meta slave because I'm missing 1 meta unit"

[prisma orbit]

rilmocha just needs s3 max..... she legit needs the least investment

[sudden kelp]

Having Shadow Sania, and only her DoT friends isn't the end of the world tbh. The stages they work on, they work on fine. Grind those stages and invest in the meta, that's the mindset I went into this. Being a week behind isn't going to kill your gameplay, new players all the time blurring the gap and giving you enough satisfaction to enjoy the game.

If you wanted to be at the top, you have to be a whale, and whales will have no problem with nerfs as they just buy their way back up top. Those who are impacted by these nerfs can recover in a week and never stood a chance to be more than slightly competitive.

So enjoy your Sania guys, but devs really should get it together yeah, either make every character work or dont.

[quaint jasper]

Correction, a 4-6 minute run that may or may not fail

[hollow iris]

WHERES THE FUCKING LILY IN THE TOP CLEARS

[thorn drum]

my guildmates wipe hell 4 faster than me with rosas not even rilmocha, also tiamat so.... you can be pretty flexy, just dont use lian ther lmao

[prisma orbit]

your also using 2 healers u straight up made it a slow clear team

[hollow iris]

IF I DONT USE TWO HEALERS THE TEAM FUCKING DIES AND I CANT CLEAR

[foggy cliff]

Yeah and its a 7 year old game, you see the difference? This one just started. They want people to take a while to farm end gear game. It's actually not bad compared to all the easy games now... problem is the jackshit communication

[prisma orbit]

unit called valerian

artisans shells

[hollow iris]

They're competign with 2025 epic 7, not 2018 epic 7. Why should I play a game thats living in the past?

[foggy cliff]

E7 is in 2D bro

[hollow iris]

and is a better fucking game right now whcih it shouldnt be because its also dogshit in its ownw ays

this thing is so shit makes e7 look like gold

[prisma orbit]

bruh its really just a skill issue.... complaining farming is hard when you are using 2 healers and not the right element

[odd berry]

[hollow iris]

I have Valerian and level 40 shells the uck are you o nabout, it performed worse

do you even use massiah

[thorn drum]

uh.... bro is crashing out... its fine man, youll clear it eventually no matter the comp, i dont use mio for example lol just use what you get, you dont see me crying over no lily (who is meta everywhere in the game)

[hollow iris]

I CAN CLEAR IT ALREADY

[foggy cliff]

Then go play that, there's a reason people were interested in ER. Fresh start and all is part of the point. Again, the big problem is the jackshit communication, not the game itself

[hollow iris]

It just FUCKING SUCKS

[brazen inlet]

E7 allows much more diverse comps and u don't lose stamina for losing an auto, and it guarantees u an actual piece but terror iv rn doesn't even guarantee a 3 set piece or more than 2 subs
but i agree the communication is also an issue

[hollow iris]

and is TORTURE

[prisma orbit]

you can even replace rimocha with gray...

[odd berry]

u cant have a normal conversation with him trust me

[prisma orbit]

theres no 1 unit end all be all

[thorn drum]

then i dont see the issue

🫠

[prisma orbit]

yea i figured

[hollow iris]

you dont see the issue in spending 6.5 minutes to spend 10 stamina

on manual gameplay

[sudden kelp]

Epic 7 made these exact mistakes too when they started out, so while I dont want to defend the devs, give them some breathing room, it's first week.

[hollow iris]

They've constantly demonstrated incompetence

there is no breathing room

[foggy cliff]

Diversity comes from its years of new characters though. I agree stamina lose sucks though

[hollow iris]

the dupes, the shadow buffs, nerfing SS

[odd berry]

it doesnt matter what u say he say "you are a cock sucker" or a fraud or a shill etc

[hollow iris]

everything is so shit

[quaint jasper]

But epic 7 made those same mistakes years ago. Just like e7 had the advantage of coming out after Summoner's War, Etheria has the advantage of seeing what e7 was like over 7 years

[hollow iris]

you are a shill

[thorn drum]

yea hell 4 want meant to be rushed in 1 week with 4* units and no lattices, its endgame for a reason, we all are just running it down unnaturally.... how tf do you not realise that

[prisma orbit]

i see u experienced it too huh

[odd berry]

yeah he is just a idiot trust^^

[thorn drum]

if you 6* all your units non ewill normally die fast and you can clear with any non braindead team

[odd berry]

and u are a retard simple

[hollow iris]

I AM USING 5 STAR UNITS with a 6 STAR DPS AND THE 6 STAR is S4S4S5 I HAVE MORE INVESTMENT THAN THE TOP CLEARS BUT I CLEAR SLOWER

Built the wrong units?

you can fuck yourself

Built the right unit (shadow sania)

also go fuck yourself

evil game design

[thorn drum]

i mean..... whodid you build?

[odd berry]

https://tenor.com/view/grass-gif-12587352171248068863

[prisma orbit]

idk why the mods gave up moderating the toxicity in the feedback section tbh, prob too many of them

[hollow iris]

take the cock out of your mouth first

[wintry willow]

lil bro hasn't played a real game in a while lol

[steel ravine]

if they want to make inferno hard to farm that is fine, whatever, the problem is that hell 3/4 feels much harder than hell 2 (and if literally need to do at least hell 3 to progress your modules to 12/8)

it is just stupid, people defending it is either too dense or self absorved

[flat anchor]

maybe c is leaving the sinking ship

[odd berry]

@clear wadi@worn tendon ban this guy already imagine he isnt banned yet how often he saying this

[hollow iris]

idk why you keep coming back to shill here

[prisma orbit]

? hell 3/4 is a higher tier tho?

[sudden kelp]

It's not fair to say one dev team will learn another dev team's mistakes. So I agree that this team make a lot of mistakes, but no they shouldn't have less head room just because someone made the same mistakes before. New person, a new canvas.

[odd berry]

yeah i wonder how he isnt yet

[brazen inlet]

fair but the gearing rng and reqs for the current bosses are way too high to experiment, even for whales
you're gated by ssr lattices so u can only invest like 2-3 units (and not even fully, just maybe 1 skill per each)
If you've tried farming mythic shells, it's also a pain
I don't think the devs themselves know what they were doing when they implemented this other than making elements in opposite factions unusable to use

[prisma orbit]

i already @ fool yesterday nothing happened, i guess he didnt bother

[odd berry]

seems so

[hollow iris]

When polite genuine criticism is made about the game, shills like you came in to deflect, gaslight and redirect the conversation. Rightfully pissing me off and leaving a 0 tolerance policy for the bunch of egoists you are. Then when called out on it, you cry for mom like a petulant child. Grow up.

[prisma orbit]

woah thats a copy pasta