Shadow Buff Terrormaton and Aurora.

[split linden]

Rockuidiot go please eat some rocks

[steel ravine]

problem is that it is too early in the "game" for them to use this strategy, they can't do "monkey no see" strategy and wait for it to dissipate on it's own because that strategy require a solid player base (which this game doesn't have, the trust was broken way before it was estabilished)

[terse cypress]

They made promises that's it

[prisma orbit]

How about u guys stop doom posting

[terse cypress]

You know you like her

[potent harness]

lmao

[odd berry]

no

[prisma orbit]

If u dont like the game then leave, simple

[white sequoia]

Fiora is balding

[split linden]

This dude has a scat fetish i swear

[odd berry]

like asmongold

[soft knoll]

i like the game, that's why i want them to manage it like adults

[white sequoia]

LMAO

[odd berry]

[terse cypress]

Hey man, it's a natural process

[split linden]

bare minimum thing to ask BTW

[odd berry]

https://tenor.com/view/farcry3-vaas-island-insanity-49685-gif-13374786

[prisma orbit]

U been doom posting all day every day. So immature

[west canyon]

let people think and use their brain instead of taking it in the ass

[split linden]

Wp you ragebaited enough to get muted

[terse cypress]

Must be tiring rage baiting all day

[split linden]

Keep talking alone rock

[prisma orbit]

I aint the one attacking others

[odd berry]

lol

[odd berry]

le baguette returns

[prisma orbit]

Only u

[odd berry]

[verbal plume]

...and it's fine? The devs job are to take an objective look at the game and assess what changes need to be made. For example, the hp changes on module bosses, they're necessary to make you not try to just brute force through the boss. A lot of fights you can already just push through if you have enough damage, and it's not necessarily healthy for the game if you can just pull the same strat for every fight. It's the same with the shadow sania comp and how it interacts with DoT. Even with how she's invulnerable to damage, I would have assumed that DoT doesn't work.

[dark mortar]

never met someone so annoying before I had to mute him

[terse cypress]

You get one of those every once in awhile on the internet

[prisma orbit]

Why u still here

[odd berry]

guys more important we hit soon 10k sky has no limit go forward my friends!!!!!

[stone drum]

10k for 100 more gems

[odd berry]

[terse cypress]

Best they can do is sorry

[stone drum]

damn i want my 100

[storm bluff]

any statement or anything so far? am completely invested in the dot team 🥲

[dark mortar]

its 3 am in china,, we'll see what they decide to do tmr

[terse cypress]

Tough luck, go wait for 2 content creators codes

[storm bluff]

suggesting to reset everything now?

[placid raft]

its in announcements, they apologized but did nothing.

[hollow iris]

"lol sorry"

[dark mortar]

is this game big in china ? if CN community is pissed, surely theyd be scared no

[swift falcon]

no we're beta testing for CN release

[weak basin]

works on terror but aurora thats rough buddy

[atomic yew]

I already got my compensation called a refund lol, may come back as a f2p if they actually take some responsibility otherwise it's gg for me with etheria which sucks cause I did like the game

[potent harness]

black bacon again lmao

[dark mortar]

wait what, black beacon 2.0 for real

[terse cypress]

Bro never have TL DR been so accurate

[dark mortar]

broo same plot

hahaahaha

[native snow]

works for terror, shell bosses

[potent harness]

% base dot sigh, they can just change it to scale with atk, well this isn't the point tho, the thing is communication n transparency, they chose the ninja route kek

[clear wadi]

idk why they didn’t do this from launch instead of completely disabling it

[terse cypress]

It's so stupid how dot literally doesn't need to build anything to work

[clear wadi]

was just a bad game design change honestly

[late onyx]

it already exists

bleed

[terse cypress]

Preach c!

[clear wadi]

regardless of the misinfo it wasn’t a well done change

[storm bluff]

wdym?

[clear wadi]

but that doesn’t mean the game isn’t fun 😆

[signal girder]

She went from who you can use in 5/7 inferno farming tooooo 4/7 oh nooooooo

[dark mortar]

c is the best community manage

[terse cypress]

We love c!

[willow wraith]

our goat

[clear wadi]

the intention for the boss from launch

[crude sand]

Arent you gonna get reprimanded by HR if you speak like that, C?

[inland vigil]

U should read my post on etheria coin/training data then

[stone drum]

go on then give free resets

[clear wadi]

no

[inland vigil]

Even has math it’ll show you how bad it be

[clear wadi]

I can criticize their balancing if I want to

[crude sand]

[clear wadi]

but I also will criticize people spreading misinfo as well

[terse cypress]

That's my cm!

[dark mortar]

c for chad

[clear wadi]

and I will also criticize the poor communication that led to us being here

[crude sand]

Fair is fair.

[storm bluff]

but crucial engdame boss tho, guess longterm much more time spent in aurora compared to other content :c

[split linden]

The game is fun but it just breaks the trust players put in the devs

How can you support a game if you don’t trust the devs?

No reason to trust them when they can just do shadow hotfixes and then tell you  « unlucky gg »

[ancient flicker]

also sucks cuz i think terror has the least good spread of sets among the 3

[terse cypress]

Now how do we get this message across the dev?

[dark mortar]

just need to block 1 guy and situation diffused

[native snow]

is it the devs saying that or a comms team? who really knows how this team is structured

[spice radish]

I'm totally in love with this game !!! My feedback wasn't meant as doomposting or rage bait. I genuinely hope it helps improve how the game is handled moving forward.

[signal girder]

ehhhhhhh by the time you actually have to spend a significant amount of time there it'll be 3-4 months in due to how many inferno shell stages you'll be doing and new shiny things will have replaced her by then anyway

[weak basin]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-zuko-thats-rough-buddy-thats-rough-gif-4264932

[ancient flicker]

its extra stupid to me bc its not like they dont literally have a prexisting game with the exact situation and example in e7

ssania is literally specter tenebra / kiris

[potent harness]

hesright

[inland vigil]

Sorry to burst ur bubbles don’t get me wrong I enjoy the game as well but the game has a serious etheria coin/training data issue

[native snow]

there have been alot of threads about this already

[terse cypress]

Are you saying crypto words

[inland vigil]

I mean it was one of the main feedbacks of beta right

[crude sand]

I agree... And thats one of many issues.

[inland vigil]

But nothing has been done about it

[stone drum]

5 betas and cant balance the game you think these devs will be able to balance a pvp game

[potent harness]

COOKED

[terse cypress]

Damn

[ancient flicker]

also i dont even htink its unfair that a premium LD unit whose kit is only good for pve and nothing for pvp can be extra efficient at their niche? what if they decide rilmocha splash shouldnt be able to handle doki as well as it does and make splash dmg stop working

[split linden]

That’s totally on them and if the CM team answered without consulting the devs, it’s another mistake on them

[clear wadi]

no worries

[split linden]

Because the reddit post sounds like a « we adressed it now it’s sth of the past »

[ancient flicker]

its very handwavey

[primal hare]

I'd say the reddit post is strike 3 in terms of communication failures haha

[split linden]

Legit they could just make an announcement « we will be consulting with devs » instead of making that terrible post

So i assume they consulted the devs

And it means a middle finger to us

[ancient flicker]

guys i just wanted better e7 i got too excited

[terse cypress]

Aren't we all

[cerulean canopy]

[crude sand]

sigh, not even e7 devs can make a better e7

[hollow iris]

you're trapped there, forever

[soft knoll]

they lose more doing this than they do just issuing a few resets to anyone who has leveled sania, fangus, and/or obol. it's not clear what they think they're achieving with that response

[split linden]

proof of stuborness and lack of professionalism

[hollow iris]

they dont want you clearing pve unless you're giga whale 😛

[potent harness]

good thing is ahmm ahmm july pre-reg

[native snow]

you know the crazy thing, there is no discord announcement linking to the reddit post. I would have expected these notices to be posted on their website and then disseminated through their other official social media channels. Its just so weird with it only being on reddit

[ancient flicker]

nah they cant trap me that easily

[quaint jasper]

Yes this decentralization is contributing so much to so much of the confusion

[haughty lagoon]

We nerfed a whole bunch of characters and neglected to tell you we buffed all the bosses at the same time, and then we changed a boss description and called it a bug fix so all of you who built this character who worked perfectly fine for 4 previous betas are just fucked.

Oh btw no compensation or reset and this will continue to happen L + Ratio + Cope

[soft knoll]

it's bizarre that official news announcements are links to tw*tt*r posts too

[ancient flicker]

[late onyx]

they need to do damage control on reddit, while keeping most of the player on discord ignorant of this whole fiasco

[crude sand]

lost sword and persona5x coming soonTM

[stuck delta]

Submitted all my chargebacks 👍

[quaint jasper]

Like I crap on E7's Stove a lot for how braindead the comments there are but it really pays off to have a central top source that everyone can draw their information from rather than having to look around reddit, discord, etc. Having discord, reddit, etc draw from a centralized source means less of this confusion we're seeing right now where it seems like all the platforms are saying different things

[clear wadi]

I don’t think many are ignorant about it 😭

[late onyx]

idk man I only see the same 10-15 here all day

[clear wadi]

What is being said differently across platforms

[cerulean canopy]

Let's go lost sword. Gotta goon hard

[quaint jasper]

The differences in all the sides

[potent harness]

CZN , aint u interested in it?

[quaint jasper]

Nobody is on the same page because there's no central authority to draw from

[clear wadi]

My pinned statement here and criticisms fairly reflect the reddit post even if the reddit post felt out of touch for many

[copper nexus]

i don't think so either

[haughty lagoon]

[native snow]

here are the differences:

Twitter: last post ethernet rally
Discord: last post about bot accounts
Reddit: last post about the recent hotfix to aurora
Website: last post was the pre download guide for the game

[placid raft]

Take me back to beta, how do you mess up a launch this bad?

[clear wadi]

I see how that feels inconsistent yeah

[rich granite]

The beta was absolutely amazing

[stuck delta]

this is what happens when fry cooks try to cook too hard

[marble sluice]

While thats a true take, has hoyo ever buffed a boss, and if so, did they stay silent about it?

[ivory sandal]

I see that EN is taking the typical CN initial launch/region release (likely with a dash of language barriers) experience well

[marble sluice]

Didnt work out for tribe nine sir

They gave too many skittles

🥹

[weak basin]

as far as I know, they only nurf bosses

[clear wadi]

if it was a post launch change it would have been prioritized in any patch note but I guess because it was differences from the beta they might not have expected this reaction as many would assume beta and launch will have some general differences for gameplay

[short igloo]

Hello C! The new banner is about to arrive, and we haven't received any news. Whether it's a new character or just a rotation, I believe there should be an early announcement. Besides bringing a certain level of engagement, it also helps players prepare. Apologies for getting a bit off-topic, but I wanted to give this feedback.

[cerulean canopy]

Tribe 9 already eos right?

[clear wadi]

I don’t think it was deliberately left out, just out of touch

[marble sluice]

Nerfs to bosses are good, happier players= more spending

[placid raft]

Even if it was a beta -> launch change like you said before. There were patch notes for that as well where it was also not included alongside other changes like Marvell's base speed.

You can't just release patch notes and not include major changes.

[quaint jasper]

The post beta patch notes were pretty extensive covering everything from nerfs to buffs to changes in some gameplay. So by not including the changes to bosses in that patch note we all went in assuming the boss would be the same

[marble sluice]

Yeah, but they answered to criticism the same, by giving skittles

[placid raft]

Patch notes are useless if you pick and choose what to include in them.

[weak basin]

hoyo knows to never buff a boss

summoners war as well

[clear wadi]

absolutely understandable

[ancient flicker]

i havent heard of it at all is it similar to etheria/sw/e7?

[native snow]

you know what would have solved this a section that says: bugs we are aware of.

Bungie does this pretty well, they just dump their list they are working on in there

[rich granite]

Oh goodness please etheria devs don’t be like bungie

[outer valve]

Damn C still just running in circles with everyone here

[native snow]

listen as destiny 2 vet. I hope they dont but when they do communicate sometimes its pretty good

[clear wadi]

u dont even wanna see the reddit

😭 glad I’m not in charge of it but sheesh

[glacial quail]

Seems more like reverse 1999

[rich granite]

Now destiny one or even early halo bungie I would love that

[stuck delta]

i know you work for them so there is bias, but they deserve every bit of this from what has transpired on the last month...this game is amazing and has insane potential only to have this giant cloud over it from mismanagement

[outer valve]

What hasn’t already been said? You should cut yourself the work and lock this thread. Everyone is saying the same thing over and over. No matter what you say, no one is changing their minds until something official gets announced

[native snow]

its all just pete parsons motorfund now

[lunar parrot]

Lotta people just read, not really much to say other than what has been said by most people

[weak basin]

since theres no double event listed in the event list is it safe to assume its not coming? At least for this coming week? @clear wadi

[rich granite]

Ah yes the Microsoft plant that killed bungie as we knew it

[rich granite]

This would be great to know

[west canyon]

nah it's cancelled,gamers are clearing pve too fast so it's gone forever

(obvious sarcasm)

[copper nexus]

this is probably why

if he locks the thread people will definitely take it as more riot fuel

[rich granite]

I don’t think it’s a good look to lock the thread… they already locked the Reddit post and it just caused more people to move over to another post and make this an even bigger problem

[clear wadi]

just misinfo and my words getting used out of context unfortunately

making me look worse

saying im gaslighting everyone

[copper nexus]

riot against he devs but don't harm c

[clear wadi]

when I have been critical

[copper nexus]

c is just trying his best

unlike the devs..........

[rich granite]

Honestly mate your comments on the gacha subreddit for that post were not the best. Like you’re handling this well but I would have stayed out of that

[outer valve]

I don’t understand what else there is to say in this thread though.

[ancient flicker]

kinda looks like just another waifu game ill have to pass

why wouldnt i just stick to r99

[placid raft]

Silencing people who are upset is not going to make them less upset. people are already furious and back charging. So cutting off the thread where they're venting that / expressing that this response is not acceptable is going to create more issues.

[rich granite]

It gives players space to breathe and discuss is all. It’s not about more needing to be said. You don’t just close down an open discussion because people are using the same points. People have the right to discuss it as they see fit and this is literally the designated place to do so

[outer valve]

I get it

[rich granite]

Like I hate to say it but if this thread gets locked Reddit would explode even more

[outer valve]

But maybe make a rant thread or something and leave that unmoderated. Feedback should be for pur constructive criticism

[copper nexus]

people will just use it as an excuse to make another reddit post about how "community managers are silencing players!!!"

Which is obviously nont happened since despite cursing multiple people out i have yet to be timed out

[copper nexus]

yea we're a little beyond that point already

[rich granite]

It’s too late for that. All the discussion has been had here for such a long period of time

[stuck delta]

honestly theyre going to have to go big if they want to salvage this

[rich granite]

Oh yeah it will have to be a big response

[stuck delta]

its still salvageable

but its going to require a lot

[copper nexus]

its sad cuz

it wasn't that difficult

they could have either just gave out free resets

[quaint jasper]

As critical as I am about this situation I do emphasize with you c there's really nothing you can do only an actual official statement can even start to quell the situation going on right now and even then there's room for them to totally fumble the bag there

[outer valve]

I don’t know about anyone else, selectors should not be the compensation. Just give a free reset, done

[copper nexus]

or revert the aurora changes

NOW thats not enough cuz of their shitty response LOL

[stuck delta]

they dont need a selector but they need to just remove dots from the game for now and give random rolls for what is removed

[clear wadi]

yeah hard to deal when so many of the comments misunderstood the original post :/ When my screenshots are being used out of context to spread additional false info it puts weight on me. Could have approached it better

[rich granite]

Oh yeah this has to be straight from the devs

[copper nexus]

people are too angry about it now i think

[stuck delta]

fwiw if any of this is about my comment regarding the hp, i genuinely thought you were referring to the hotfix

so while i could be wrong, it was not malicious

[clear wadi]

rebalancing dot would be the ideal solution and should have been done properly from day 1 rather than disabling it

[rich granite]

Yeah it’s a double edged sword but in a way it kinda looked like you were going at the guy.
I read the post a couple times and in the post itself I didn’t see anything that was technically wrong

[clear wadi]

nah I responded privately on the gachagming post

[copper nexus]

any chance u can provide any insight on 2x event

[outer valve]

Rightfully so, but we really should just take a step back and breathe. Everything that needed to be said has been said. Now we play the waiting game. If wait is too long, company loses your money.

[copper nexus]

[stuck delta]

im super critical, sometimes over...but for the folks i respect the intention is not to be malicious

[copper nexus]

that would at least distract people

[clear wadi]

Yeah, I apologized for it. A lot of people have been doing it though so was hard to gauge and the guy was right

[stuck delta]

the hard part is...there is a precedent of what is required from E7s fuckup

it basically has to match that lol

[rich granite]

All good mate I just don’t wanna see you get mixed up in more stuff is all. It is a hard situation to gauge

[copper nexus]

yea i finished with my angry era

need to remember that c is human too

[outer valve]

Please, for the love of god, leave E7 business tactics out of this game

[copper nexus]

maybe not the devs tho >.>

[outer valve]

Because of the way they handled their compensation, E7 is the game they are today - a total broken powercreep mess

[ancient flicker]

e7 used to try stuff and get massive player outrage yearly

it was an annual event

then they brought in that new ceo and immediately just started sliding off the deep end

[weak basin]

probably doesnt know and trying to not answer due to what happened with the dupe situation

[copper nexus]

what happened o.o

[weak basin]

some trial mod said the dupes dont work

[copper nexus]

o....

yikes

[outer valve]

@clear wadi I still kind of want to if Jack is aware and will be addressing this? He seems to be a willing participant in the community. Surely you’ve had talks with him about this

[copper nexus]

was it ringo

[clear wadi]

yeah I wouldn’t talk about that bc I don’t know when it is

[haughty lagoon]

(this is a joke) C CONFIRMED 2X EVENT IS COMING AT SOME POINT (this is a joke)

[candid scarab]

I know some Chinese players on Asia but seems silent

[copper nexus]

yunno

i feel like this could cause issues with people only reading the first half of the sentence

C has been flamed and framed enough already

[haughty lagoon]

Now if they only read the first half they will see the disclaimer

[copper nexus]

u should bold the disclaimers too

🙂

[stuck delta]

i dont agrree with that personally

powercreep mess yes

but not how they handled it

https://discord.com/channels/994852318904340560/1382447785877700658

thoughts?

[outer valve]

Nah it’s clearly how they handled it. They didn’t want to give out selectors anymore

[steel ravine]

just a friendly reminder that those 8k+ messages here are only from people who can communicate in english, it is only a slice of the player base pie 👍

[outer valve]

So what do they do? Just never nerf units

And then what happens? Have to make money, so the next unit needs to be more OP than the current meta units

[odd berry]

jsut close the damn thread its now a pure "shitshow"

[haughty lagoon]

Reset event for only dot units. Could have solved this entire issue without any flame or rioting ever occurring

But instead here we are

[minor crown]

c didnt realize until it was too late 😔

[haughty lagoon]

I mean that part isnt on c

in any way

[minor crown]

ik

[copper nexus]

not c

[minor crown]

it was a callback from dupe gate

[haughty lagoon]

I have no idea how they didnt see this coming tbh

[minor crown]

freya banner SRs also got changed too but the change makes sense

[placid raft]

thats the part everyone is upset with. Either they're completely out of touch or they don't care about their playerbase. That's all this response / situation says so far.

[haughty lagoon]

like team is usable in pretty much only 2 pieces of content in the entire game and you miss putting that in the launch patch notes that 1 of those 2 pieces got irreparably changed and then fix it 6 days later after people built their entire accounts around it with 0 comp

that's insane

[odd berry]

huh?

[weak basin]

green sania is included now

[candid scarab]

Feel bad for c. Devs refused to do anything and said "hey c, take care of this in the community. It's ur job"

[minor crown]

in cbt3 it was chiaki echo/dinah/kraken, now chiaki got subbed in with sania

[odd berry]

chiaki was before right?

[weak basin]

I think? no clue

[potent harness]

sry was afk, it's very different, the shared similarity is the animation, super creative's animations are so iconic and eye candy, we still don't know much but it's like a rougelike darkest dungeon, grim and dark, they just released 2nd pv yesterday

[minor crown]

yea it was chiaki

[haughty lagoon]

That's literally how being a cm works, it's a shit job in cases like this

its a great job otherwise

but when there's a fire you're the one the fingers point to until the higher ups actually do something

it is what it is

[ancient flicker]

oh wait a roguelike?? thats pretty interesting

it does look like another generic waifu collector visually tho

i do miss e7's animations a bit

well some of it

[potent harness]

Okayeg

[magic wind]

That’s not enough since they made a L/D unit useless after people spend tones to get them this shit is unacceptable

[haughty lagoon]

Wanting more than that is greedy

¯_(ツ)_/¯

You get your resources back to build the other shit you pulled trying to get ssania and unbrick your account

That should be the minimum

and is the reasonable response

[magic wind]

Getting what you paid for is greedy dumbass argument

[signal girder]

she went from 5/7 to 4/7 in content you'll be farming forever. THE HORROR

[clever jasper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971545006844309505/1249443618272575599/doc_2024-06-09_22-00-09.gif

[stuck delta]

sure if you knew before downloading the game from the balance patch that dots had been nerfed

[haughty lagoon]

If my main carry gets nerfed next patch, I would want a free reset event, other games do it

wanting more than that is just meh

my investment doesnt change from that if I can reinvest those resources elsewhere

but if no reset then I have lost that investment

[potent harness]

some game gives u reset, and a selector hehe

[stuck delta]

if lily got nerfed to be unusable in everything but 1 piece of content, everyone and their mother would want a selector

lets be honest

[haughty lagoon]

I honestly would just want a free reset

So i can invest what i put into her

in another unit

[placid raft]

More resets would be the bare minimum they could do in this case. The lack of communication and complete disregard for their playerbase warrants more than that in terms of compensation unless they want to go EOS.

[magic wind]

If you buy something you want it to be at least usable Shadow Sania is worth less than an a random SR right now when it comes to usefulness

[stuck delta]

also this would be a fair take...3 months from now when weve farmed

not a week in when things are highly team dependent

[weak basin]

then where you using the dark skill up mats on? Also I heard the reset event removes dupes from your account

[haughty lagoon]

1 that's a lie

[timid rose]

It doesn't lol

[jaunty turtle]

Guys, im so out of the loop, what the deal with dupes situation? What was duped?

[haughty lagoon]

2 I'd be using them on my other dark units that I can build teams around

[rare lintel]

no X2 tomorrow confirmed

[haughty lagoon]

Lily is replaceable

[weak basin]

Time to correct that person's yt comment then >:3

[odd berry]

yeah by the asia server

[stuck delta]

lily enables like 90%+ of teams and pvp lol

[atomic yew]

Oof people are gonna have a meltdown lol

[rare lintel]

yes

[quaint jasper]

2x would be a quick and cheap way to quell some people lol and they ain't even taking that out

[rare lintel]

a lot gonna quit probably

[next storm]

Damn i just called that in another thread lmao

[rare lintel]

and its well deserved

this game gonna die soon and its great for the gatcha game

[weak basin]

asia already reset?

[rare lintel]

yes

[potent harness]

:o7:

[stuck delta]

i was actually kinda okay with Ssania knowing i could farm aurora

now the character is dogshit lol

[halcyon bramble]

i mean, u can still clear Terror and speedrun trek, right?

still shit way to "fix" tho

[dapper ridge]

Gib compensation

[magic wind]

Yeah either they should revert the nerf or rework her kit or allow for exchange of shadow Sania for another random L/D you don’t have

[steel ravine]

what baffle me is that either they couldn't see ahead the obvious negative consequence of making a SSR LD unit worthless 6 days after launch or they legit do not care about player feedback and are completely blinded on their own mindset

it was such an obvious consequence

for one literal piece of pve content in a game that is pvp oriented

[quaint jasper]

Yeah switch out Sania for a theoretical pvp unit that basically is exodia and it would seem like a proportional response but shadow sania in aurora to me doesn't really warrant this weird oxymoronic combo of both urgency and lack of urgency

[weak basin]

just you wait. they are gonna release another ld that will make ssania into a god

[steel ravine]

not only the situation itself, but all this chaos brought to light another big issue that was under the radar: daily farmable pve content will quickly feel like a chore and it seems that it is by design

[stuck delta]

buff - "dots have a 100% chance to crit"

[clear wadi]

seems like just the early game progression was slowed though

[haughty lagoon]

only works on one boss

[clear wadi]

late game should be stabilized

not saying balances couldnt have been better though

[stuck delta]

boss to be added at a later time

[steel ravine]

hell 3 is a big jump from hell 2 in difficult, for all three bosses (and you need hell 3 to build a 12/8 or 12/12 set)

the non announced hp boost made a significant difference

[placid raft]

What's going to stabilize it though? People have red gear, 12/8 sets, red shells, lattices invested, and characters maxed and are still saying it's a chore.

[cursive rapids]

Only issue with the balance is every character nerf should be given a reset on that character, like other games.

[haughty lagoon]

Literally the bare minimum that should be done lmfao

[cursive rapids]

you can’t nerf units, change interactions/bugs, whatever you want to call it, without a reset on that character

[magic wind]

I would have been fine if they just made the boss harder another way and have it locked behind another higher level requirement but the way they did it straight up made multiple characters useless including an expensive L/D SSR unit

[steel ravine]

that is exactly where I am, 12/8 optimal set, max level/star, s2 and s3 maxed, shell maxed with proper sub stats and I feel so insanely week

as soon as I go to hell 3

[stuck delta]

i guess even tying into what chris had said about balance patches being at the end of the season...yeah id agree you could give a free reset

but that would be 110 days into the game

[ancient flicker]

we should be able to set the game to farm whatever then run off to play rta

i thought this was the point

[steel ravine]

feel like I need every single of the 5 units with everything perfect, but I can't do that if I can't farm hell 3 and above

[cursive rapids]

it is the point

[stuck delta]

something that nerfs 7 days in...exchange the unit out

[placid raft]

Same, I'm clearing Hell 3 on everything but terror and even then i fail half the time. I've spent $1k and I've heavily invested in meta pve units letting my pvp suffer and it's still miserable. So when is this magical stabilization happening that's going to make farming better?

[steel ravine]

only if I do manual, at that point I will just quit

[cursive rapids]

By week 3 inferno clears will be brain dead easy even for full F2P

[steel ravine]

how?

[placid raft]

Peopl can barely kill Hell 3/4 with whale level investments right now. I don't think inferno is getting cleared in the current state of the game by the vast majority.

[steel ravine]

if we are just explaining that we can't get geared for that

[ancient flicker]

also the issue is less about the fact that there was buffs/nerfs and more that it was stealth changes + no compensation + this sets a precedent

if this is how its allowed to settle now this is how it will continue to be handled in the future

[cursive rapids]

Whaling doesn’t do anything for you. It’s just gear/speed tuning/shell rerolls

[steel ravine]

which whaling helps by buying stamina man

[placid raft]

Whaling gives you the roster you need. And more lattices, and more mats to star up units. So that's a bad take.

[cursive rapids]

I’d take a full purple team with proper gear/shell rerolls then max duped SSR

[ancient flicker]

they announced that they will address the first part - communicate changes better

but they have not addressed how the changes affect players and offer 0 compensation

i didnt even raise ssania btw

[clear wadi]

I'm sure if this continues they'll look into it. Balancing can always be criticized

[hollow iris]

as someone with full Purple Gear and maxed red shells on their team, no i cannot clear hell 4 let alone inferno. This is with a S2S4S5 Massiah btw

[steel ravine]

how you will get proper gear in the first place my dude? not sure if you are missing the point on purpose

[ancient flicker]

this is an issue for the games health in the long run

[outer valve]

Afaik there aren’t any packs that sells mental stabilizer. I could be wrong as I didn’t look through the whole shops

[foggy cliff]

Damn a bunch of whales quitting

[placid raft]

Do you have any guess as to how long it would take them to look into it? Because it's making this game feel absolutely miserable lol.

[ancient flicker]

literally if this game is gonna speedrun itself into eos state im going to pullmy money out and leave early

[steel ravine]

1k crystal refresh per day, only whales can keep it up indefinitely

[cursive rapids]

Little by little, if you can’t clear H3/4, farm H2. Do you have 6+ spd on all your gear from H2?

[ancient flicker]

i want it to be a long lasting successful game since im invested into it

[cursive rapids]

Do you have full red abilities on your shells?

[hollow iris]

if you listen to the shills clearing hell 4 is "speed running"

[pine jasper]

they probally intended you to be 6 star even with your suppoort + lettice to clear the hell4/inferno and tested it on those settings

[outer valve]

For now, it seems fine for F2P. Can’t call it just yet until honeymoon phase is over

[cursive rapids]

Do you have full red passives on all your shells ? (And using all red shells?)

[pine jasper]

i would guess

[steel ravine]

my man, believe us when we say that it is not this happy sunshine thing you are imagining

[cursive rapids]

What team are you running that you can’t clear with?

and what boss

[placid raft]

Yes lol my team is more geared than it was on beta and I'm struggling to clear content that I had manual farming on beta. I have every supp / carry 6 starred and heavily invested in. Idk why people are not understanding that, the people complaining about Hell 3/4 are not in trash gear / teams.

[atomic yew]

Lol my man brought crazy receipts

[cursive rapids]

That’s why I asked what boss/team 😄

[placid raft]

All these people "it's going to be so easy in a week or two" okay see you in a week or two when you're here complaining about the difficulty like the rest of us who are actually there now.

[cursive rapids]

What boss can’t you beat on H4?

and what team

[clear wadi]

I think it's expected to be routinely shifting strategies and accepting that gear alone isn't going to progress you

it's been like that through every stage before hell 4 as well

[atomic yew]

And acting like whaling doesn't get you ahead at this point whales can have 6 extra golden lattices I think? Maybe more which is a huge diff

[cerulean canopy]

I can't beat aurora hell 4 because it got 'fixed' 🙂

[haughty lagoon]

show

[weak basin]

looks at grandy

[clear wadi]

I don't think anyone denied whales wouldnt be able to progress faster

even in beta

even after the dupe drama

[placid raft]

There is no strategy. It's build the same team as everyone else that's clearing and manual it and hope nothing resists / the boss doesnt randomly one shot someone. That's the games pve. Super fun.

[outer valve]

I saw that lol

No mention of a path forward at all. Just we’re aware and we acknowledge it. We’ll do better

[haughty lagoon]

unreal

[split linden]

Crazy unreal

"we hear you" btw

[atomic yew]

I was talking to a guy that literally said whaling won't get you that far ahead wasn't referencing anything you said lol

[haughty lagoon]

"we hear you and we dont care"

[cursive rapids]

Yeah. That’s how these games work.

It’s not a secret

[hollow iris]

is it really a "Strategy" when its just "Build the meta team dipshit if you don't get bent"

[clear wadi]

it won't get you super far ahead but progression will involve less time yes

[deep wedge]

well with how they approached this i'm sure as hell not spending any money beyond what i already sunk in beta (before the dupe fiasco 💀 )

[outer valve]

I mean good on the dev team for putting their foot down. But I have to wonder why they’re not even thinking of maybe a free reser?

[hollow iris]

I like that the Rilm is in a nice diagonal line

[placid raft]

Except you're actually able to clear when you do that in "these games" so the fact that people are doing that and struggling to clear and having to manual battle for something you're expected to clear 100x a day means its overtuned and not fun.

[cursive rapids]

Yeah the lack of free reset on every nerf is wild

[cursive rapids]

Brother it’s day 7. Why do you think you should be able to clear H4 on day 7 unless you are a mega sweat?

[timid rose]

Yh but these changes need to be later and not when we barely have any resources and limited amount of built characters that suddenly become useless

[atomic yew]

I don't agree with this as someone who made it to hell4 getting gear earlier especially hell 4 stuff rapidly accelerated account power and let you massively power up your roster with the better end game sets. Timeweave, momentum, etc

Which is getting ahead

[clear wadi]

those changes were from launch but the sania stuff is separate and more complex yes

[graceful dust]

there are mega sweats with 100 crit rate and 120% crit damage

and 200 speed

[timid rose]

Yh i was talking about sania

[hollow iris]

yea 'not letting you get ahead' is just BS

[timid rose]

The rest is okay

[hollow iris]

i dont understand why farming has to be difficult content

[placid raft]

Yes. If the content is unlocked, I built a team for it, invested in that team, have the gear for it and was easily clearing in beta. I absolutely think I should be clearing now idc that it's day 7. That excuse is so out of touch and tells me you are not even at this stage yet and should not even have an opinion.

[cerulean canopy]

I can clear h4 except aurora though

[hollow iris]

i just wanna build my units why am i being gatekept by BS

[placid raft]

Gear is already locked behind stam and rng. It does not need to be a difficult chore every clear.

[copper nexus]

how else are they supposed to make money

[low narwhal]

Devs really wanna die on this hill? At this point it really dosen't matter if the devs "are in the right" making balance changes, because the communication failure and lack of any follow up action is causing the playerbase to get even more angry. Yall can argue all you want that we can't read or wtv, end of the day im sure you can see from all three reddit subs as well as this discord that PR and optics are in the dumpsters

[copper nexus]

if farming doesn't feel like a chore

we don't get the urge to spend

[hollow iris]

selling me units for pvp?!?!?!?!

[copper nexus]

to speed up said chore

[hollow iris]

Selling me stamina?!?!?

[copper nexus]

thats not that profitable

[haughty lagoon]

Are there internal discussions going on about the player feedback? I imagine at this point SOMEONE at xd is paying attention right?

[hollow iris]

Latices?!??

[copper nexus]

especially when dupes don't mean that much

yea

[placid raft]

I don't get the urge to spend, I get the urge to stop spending and stop supporting a game that is a chore.

[copper nexus]

but why are u so rushed to get lattices

[hollow iris]

Let me clear and farm modules at least

[copper nexus]

the right answer is because ur modules aren't that good

so u need power from lattices

[hollow iris]

i dont gaf about lattices

[atomic yew]

Dupes actually mean way more than people think imo

[copper nexus]

lies

lies and deceit

[magic wind]

Yeah even as a spender the difficulty increase isn’t what annoys me it the way they went about it by literally ruining dots completely by removing one of the two places they could be useful killing the archetype and all its related units especially Shadow Sania makes me so mad the one L/D unit 8 got after spending money on the L/D banner is now complete trash worse than any random none dot SR unit she only does dot they need to let us reset resources and exchange her for another random L/D unit we don’t have or Rework her kit completely to still be usable in content that isn’t to much to ask or undo the damn nerf.

[copper nexus]

not rn tho

[atomic yew]

Like especially c6

[copper nexus]

cuz the playing field isn't even

some people have god gear

[hollow iris]

FUCK YOU

[copper nexus]

others have 180 spd lily

lolololol

[hollow iris]

this guy cant clear shit

[copper nexus]

again, some people's modules aren't that good

🙂

[haughty lagoon]

Need more crit rate

[clear wadi]

yea u need more crit on him

u shoudl be maxing it

[hollow iris]

dropping an attack or crit damage primary isn't going to suddenly let him clear dokidoki hell 4

i've already tried that, i actualyl do less damage

[atomic yew]

No if he's running gray that's where you want it tbf

[haughty lagoon]

100% your team is the problem on doki and not massiah

[clear wadi]

u have to make adjustments elsewhere then

[cerulean canopy]

That's me because game only drops bramble and cure set

[haughty lagoon]

if you're running gray on h4 you have other problems

[placid raft]

its not that low if he's running with gray

the simple fact is you shouldn't have to minmax to this extent just to farm gear in a gacha

its insane

[cerulean canopy]

Can't clear what?

[hollow iris]

I've got Lily and Freya, i've tried the double sustain whale clear that the top Massiah is doing, i've done with a S1S4S5 Kraken and a S1S3S3 Mio

[atomic yew]

I cleared hell 4 with this comp so no?

[hollow iris]

hell 3 terror or hell 4 doki

[cerulean canopy]

Oh

[quaint jasper]

Almost all of the content is clearable the moment you unlock it so why should I not have the expectation that unlocking higher difficulties means I can clear it. They should've level locked individual difficulties if they didn't want us clearing up to hell 4 the moment we unlocked them

[haughty lagoon]

Mio is bait in pve run Kazuyo instead

[foggy cliff]

Wow I can actually copy that 2nd clear now... Hmmmm

[clever jasper]

Hello Mr. c, can you confirm if the devs are talking about this at all internally or is everyone here talking to a wall?

[hollow iris]

i'e tried with her as well

[clear wadi]

the only thing about this though is that people are beating it with 2 srs and freya, which are all easily obtainable. Between all the pulls many people have gotten eitehr x1 rilmocha or x1 kloss and can use targeted summon if they want to progress and get a missing unit.

beating it is obtainable with the proper pivot even if it means taking an extra day or two to get that set up

[haughty lagoon]

^

can we get an answer on this

[cerulean canopy]

This is true, I've had more successful runs with 4* kazuyo than my 5* mio in h4 doki

[clear wadi]

I am not in the development team sorry

[hollow iris]

its not a extra day or 2 if you've already invested into units the reset banner isn't permanent and if you're like me and committed the grave sin of experimenting you can't even do it

[heavy relic]

day or two ? gl pivoting with new units from scratch

[clever jasper]

So your statement is that the devs have communicated nothing to the community manager?

[hollow iris]

the gear grind design is not fun - at all

play a narrow niche comp or go fuck yourself, great, amazing

[clear wadi]

I feel that in two days you can build up a character minus the ssr lattices

[cerulean canopy]

Sweep button when

[hollow iris]

i expect this level of difficulty from ember trek or that weird restricted element mode

[clear wadi]

the ssr lattices are the exception that can halt progress further

[hollow iris]

not from just trying to get good gear for my guys

[fair cape]

^

[fair cape]

What team are you with? And can someone from the development team work towards addressing the feedback ?

[placid raft]

And what about the people who don't pull Kloss or Hein or any of these other units that are clearly enabling these clears? Just spend more until you do?

[haughty lagoon]

?? ^

[heavy relic]

can't farm xp as fast in that time

[foggy cliff]

Oh shoot, Mio max S3...

[hollow iris]

shrug

just a couple days my guy :^)

[haughty lagoon]

Wait but Eh said that the cm team has to get approval and vetting for posts from the dev team, so you have contact with the dev team, and you cant ask if this is being discussed internally to soothe the public?

[hollow iris]

maxing lattice investment should be for the pvp crowd and strategy around that

[haughty lagoon]

Make it make sense pls

[hollow iris]

not for gear farming

i have a 6 star Rilm because she's not latticed up she does worse than my MAssiah

[placid raft]

This is why its so upsetting, my pvp roster is completely uninvested because I'm throwing all of my starter resources in these niche pve units that I don't even want because simple gear farming is designed like a challenge / achievement mode which is just not fun.

[hollow iris]

freaking this

[clever jasper]

Hello Mr. c, just one last question for my news article:

Did you provide player feedback to the development team? Or has nothing been communicated back to them?

[hollow iris]

I bet you the shadow sania nerf wouldn't be this huge ass thread if the pve was actually good in this game

it'd still be a issue

but not as big of one

[steel ravine]

some people are holding so dearest to the idea that in 2-3 weeks they will magically be able to progress naturally (while in reality they will get stuck on hell 2-3 feeling frustrated that they can't farm inferno, not even hell 4)

[copper nexus]

tbf my pvp team is literally 3 speed openers and diting

[steel ravine]

guess we will have to wait 2-3 weeks to see what is already pretty clear

[copper nexus]

and it works nicely

LOL

[steel ravine]

people max refreshing are stuck, imagine someone only using the natural stamina

[copper nexus]

i can't

i literally can't

LOL

[fair cape]

The PVE is a problem at the moment, not enough stamina to farm consistently bad RNG drops cause less used sets to be consistent. Then on top of that building teams for PVE farming and the investment they take with such limited resources while having events that give skins and rewards for PvP are conflicting and making the game flow frustrating. This needs a balance!

[hollow iris]

theres enough stamina, the content is just to bloody difficult

[placid raft]

I'm in masters right now, I'm making due. But I have 0 investment in any of my pvp units that I was excited to build. Because I'm having to build Diting, Khloros, Rosa, Ril etc. They can work in pvp with speed tuners backing them. But I have Rahu, Borgne, etc with 0 investment bc I was forced into these pve comps just to gear farm. That is bad design.

[fair cape]

I used all of my stamina for the day just to skill up lily and I was farming the hardest difficulty

[copper nexus]

tbf thats not a problem that can or should be fixed

thats how it is in ANY

gahca game

[hollow iris]

meant the gear farming, but yea prowess can be a pain

[steel ravine]

same, I have veronika and helkid that I want to build but I just can't

[copper nexus]

literally ANY gacha game

with pvp

[quaint jasper]

mfw you spend like 50 energy and 15 - 20 minutes of your own time to only get mythics that don't even have a full 4 sub stats

[copper nexus]

u either prioritize pve progression

[hollow iris]

epic 7 says hi

[copper nexus]

for the sake of end game pvp

or u have fun for a few weeks with pvp units

and then brick ur account

[hollow iris]

why is this game back in 2018

[copper nexus]

cuz u have no resources and no awy to farm end game gear

lol

[hollow iris]

thats bad game design

really bad game design

and evil

[placid raft]

It's awful game design, and thinking that's how it should be is delusional

[copper nexus]

well

yea but

[fair cape]

It’s to force people to buy crystals for farming which isn’t cool

[quaint jasper]

When i get a red gear in e7 at least it's always 4 sub stats

[copper nexus]

whats the alternative

????

[placid raft]

Having pve not be a nightmare so we can focus on the units we actually want to build for pvp in a pvp focused game?????

[copper nexus]

so just

get rid fo pve then

o.o

why have pve

[placid raft]

No one said that

[copper nexus]

if there's 0 challenge

just give u 10 pieces of gear

for free

daily

[placid raft]

???

[copper nexus]

and then u go play pvp and be on ur way

[hollow iris]

its not because theres no point in refreshing stamina, i cant clear

[copper nexus]

thats what ur asking for

[placid raft]

I'm blocking you sorry lol

[copper nexus]

go ahead

LOL

[placid raft]

You're actually so out of touch its wild

[copper nexus]

braindead take

[placid raft]

keep accepting slop

[copper nexus]

jesus christ

the solution isn't to make pve easier

just equalize gear in pvp

if thats the route u wanna go

[hollow iris]

farming isnt meaningful pve content guy, thats for like ember trek or the cute little element restriction mode. Farming is just a chore so u can do the fun pve and pvp

[copper nexus]

but thats not how these games work

[copper nexus]

so ur ok with building units u don't want to build for "fun pve"

but not to get better gear for pvp

[placid raft]

this. I'm fine with challenge modes being challenging. That's fun. Something I'm farming 100x a day does not need to be difficult.

[copper nexus]

it doens't matter

u will need to build things

u don't want to build

to progress

LOL

[hollow iris]

The fuck kind of gaslighting shit are you on

[steel ravine]

so dense

holly

[cerulean canopy]

[placid raft]

This dude is insane lol

Acting like these units are not $100-$1000+ investments "yeah youre gonna need to build things you don't want to sorry"

[copper nexus]

why am i crazy for thinking u shouldn't be able to farm endgame gear on day 6 of launch O.o

without needing to build proper units

that are suited for pve content

rather than niche pvp units

that specifically excel in pvp environment

O.o

i don't get it

[quaint jasper]

If the the stage I can get it from is unlocked on day 6, then why shouldn't I have the expectation I can farm for it? I mean, why was it unlocked then

[placid raft]

someone is pressed

[cerulean canopy]

drop rate is sht as well

[copper nexus]

...

u got a point o.o

[hollow iris]

BUILDING PROPER UNITS SHOULD NOT MEAN LATTICED THE FUCK UP.

if i go into FARMING with the correct element and a balanced team of dps, buffer, debuffer, sustain and flex slot based on boss mechanic i should fucking clear

[copper nexus]

[copper nexus]

thats

also a good point

[hollow iris]

Farming being a challenge mode where you need to use some niche group and lattice them up is retarded

[quaint jasper]

Not to mention they had multiple betas to figure out people were farming too quick

[copper nexus]

i toastymellos admit i am wrong and will subject myself to public discord execution

🫡

[hollow iris]

ty

i appreciate u

[copper nexus]

take the L and move on

[placid raft]

Exactly. You shouldn't need to fully Lattice / HEAVILY invest just to farm pve content in a pvp game. No one is saying do away with the farming. just make it farmable. The auto clear feature exists for a reason.

[copper nexus]

[quaint jasper]

Good on you Toasty for admitting it

I support sparing you

[copper nexus]

rather have an L take than be an L person

[quaint jasper]

L takes can be changed, usually it's too late for L persons

[placid raft]

Respectable

[queen patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/pee-wee-herman-gif-22499105

[copper nexus]

now the question is

which one is the devs

[quaint jasper]

no 2x tomorrow and probably no reset so I ain't holding my breath

[placid raft]

I have a sneaking suspicion and I don't like it

[timber loom]

Spill

[placid raft]

Devs are giving some major L person vibes

[hoary echo]

How much did that cost

[copper nexus]

yea

my ONLY

hope

is just that

[uneven crown]

toastymellos has been warned

Reason: Spam

[copper nexus]

bruh

[queen patrol]

Get him bot

[quaint jasper]

Give us 2x and some stamina pots and that'll pretty much please most of the people who aren't in it for the principle of it

[timber loom]

Got clocked by the bot

[copper nexus]

my only hope is that the devs are just asian and don't have an easy time translating their communicating into english

which might give slight justification to their out of touch response

[unique scaffold]

Are you talking about their reddit response

[copper nexus]

ofc

[heavy relic]

they might only react if revenue drops, wait a few weeks

[unique scaffold]

Why did they only do it on reddit lmao

[candid scarab]

Or sudden drop of DAU

[vagrant bane]

请加强影子赛娜。

[copper nexus]

idk but CMs admitted it was a bit odd

[copper nexus]

what i want to say to the devs - DLLMH HGC PKSBP

[candid scarab]

请加强暗善雅. ftfy

[copper nexus]

eventually a cantonese person will appear and recgonize what im saying

[quaint jasper]

lmao diu lei lo mo

[full pilot]

mou*

lou mou*

[candid scarab]

Ban incoming😅

[quaint jasper]

I'm Viet but hang around a lot of cantos and even have some canto relatives

[copper nexus]

no ban pls T.T

i can't help the fact that yee dee developer ho jong yee lop chern

[foggy cliff]

Ugh not quite there yet

[copper nexus]

damn

fast

af

LOL

[grand vapor]

How is the futile struggle against the masses going chris

[clear wadi]

terribly

[grand vapor]

Hold in there buddy

[clear wadi]

I said that to myself last night before I went to sleep

[grand vapor]

LOL

[clear wadi]

woke up to even more problems

[uneven pine]

@clear wadi just wanted to give you a heads up - you're doing a wonderful job. Stay encouraged. Even if most don't say so, or even realize it, we appreciate you. Thank for your being accessible and dealing with our spats. You're valued.

[copper nexus]

^

Im sorry if i ever said anything bad about you in a fit of anger. You are genuinely one of the best CMs in any game community!

[grand vapor]

We love you Chris you're the best cm I've ever interacted with in a game

You do your job very well

Best hiring decision XD has ever made

[stuck delta]

only good one lol

[copper nexus]

might need to rethink ringo

making more trouble for his fellow CMs

LOL

[uneven pine]

I'd put him one notch below whoever decided to lower pity from 100 to 80. Still though, pretty good!

[magic wind]

Yeah we all like you it’s not you where upset with

[copper nexus]

actually ngl

this is pretty insane

i haven't actually seen a situation

where a communities discord was like

successfully quelled

despite an absolutely VILE developer response to the issues

LOL

Normally u'd go into threads or channels for days

[uneven pine]

most of us have moved on to the acceptance stage of grief.

[copper nexus]

and people are still on the same thing

true

and the praying stage

or delusion

[scarlet folio]

Hey Alex morning mate whats the update here? They havent posted anything yet?

[uneven pine]

praying is at every stage.

[copper nexus]

nah

beginning stages

u don't pray

u just want them all to burn

and pay for their sins

[ivory sandal]

I have a feeling Ringo is one of the customer support operators that decided to just copy paste a customer support response to a PR section, and thus failed miserably (and then adding on that they're ESL or further than that)

[copper nexus]

[copper nexus]

what esl

[uneven pine]

oh I'm not praying for them, I'm praying for me that my anger doesn't burn it all to the ground.

[copper nexus]

LOOOL

[ivory sandal]

English as a Second Language

UTC+8

[copper nexus]

once was blind but now u can see 🙂

[copper nexus]

ohhh

i thought for some reason it was those special needs kids in school

i was like

hmm

i don't see that in their description

and while i wouldn't find it particularly surprising thats a bit uncalled for

[magic wind]

@scarlet folio No real update yet

[clear wadi]

yes, english is their second language so it came off a little weird

[copper nexus]

sorry somehow this doesn't look liek free resets to me

[ivory sandal]

Probably didn't read or fully understand the situation

[odd berry]

stamina pots will be in the shop (leaks)

[foggy cliff]

I did iiiit

[uneven pine]

got anymore of those leaks?

[copper nexus]

o shit

gz

[odd berry]

sadly no

[foggy cliff]

For auto, Beyontin needs to skill on Gray though

Gotta figure that out

[copper nexus]

can u record a run

and send it to me?

i think seeing what a high speed run actually looks like

would be helpful

if ur willing to benchmark stats for all ur units

[full pilot]

That's fake, this is from asia and we are having this event LIVE

[copper nexus]

would be EXTREMELY helpful too

[uneven pine]

did anything else come, or just events? no new banners or content?

[odd berry]

i got this picture 3 days ago

idk which server

[full pilot]

Asia server is the only server ahead of other region

[full pilot]

This is from the dazzler event, no new banner but theres 2 new limited event to replace cubic board and shell story

[ivory sandal]

mambo rush, is that an uma musume collab? /s

[uneven pine]

ty, we saw those during beta - so looks like new banners come on saturdays, interesting.

[odd berry]

hm for me shell story dont have a timer

[atomic yew]

Wait did they steal the train from limbus lol

Joke just in case

[full pilot]

It always had a timer, you can see it from the first initial landing page before going into the board

[foggy cliff]

You can see it in recent clears

[ivory sandal]

try clicking on it

[foggy cliff]

There's me and a few others doing it

[full pilot]

Initial landing page is the page after you clicked on it

[foggy cliff]

Literally auto works except you need Beyontin to target Gray (mine targets Mio)

[odd berry]

ok nvm 5 hrs

sadge

[foggy cliff]

to reset Gray CD

[pine light]

They should refund or exend the character reset event

[copper nexus]

fkkk i can't get on rn

[foggy cliff]

We can sync later, I can run it again for you haha

[copper nexus]

tyty

whats sync

btw

i saw it in ER announcements in our discord

smth about syncing runs

but no idea what that is

[foggy cliff]

@copper nexus Basically it goes Mio S3 => Gray combo => Beyontin S3 => Kazuyo S3 => Rilmocha S3 and it's a one shot.

Next wave goes Mio S2 => Gray normal attack (I hit boss) => Kazuo hit (boss) => Beyontin S2 on Gray => Gray combo => Rilmocha S3 => People move => Rilmocha S3 one last time. And finishing blow by White Fang LOL

[copper nexus]

hmmmm

your rilmocha must be significantly stronger than mine then

:/

im think im hardstuck for now

i need valeria built before i can progress

so at least not until tmr

can't do anyhting

sadge

[foggy cliff]

Edited, Rilmocha needed 2 S3s for 2nd wave

[copper nexus]

mm

[foggy cliff]

Also it's cause Beyontin buffs are crazy good

[copper nexus]

oh really

i use lily tho

and i would think her crit daamge buff

after second S2

is just as good?

[copper nexus]

mmm

i think mine looks similar

except

[foggy cliff]

Idk I just did S3 over and over again

[copper nexus]

not harvest keeneye

lol

[uneven crown]

toastymellos has been warned

Reason: Spam

[copper nexus]

which is gonna be a big diff

sucks cuz i can't farm terror

need to be able to farm terror first

so valeria 100% is the move here i think

[foggy cliff]

Yeah Keeneye Fury probably best. Too pain to farm Aurora so I just went Harvest

Didn't have Lingluo back then

[copper nexus]

ooo icic

[queen patrol]

Is this a W?

[copper nexus]

yes but also go to like, a normal chat channel LOL

this is not a #help channel

[queen patrol]

Y'all are asking for a lot of help in here though

[copper nexus]

yea

mental help

and suggestions for therapy

after this shitshow

[queen patrol]

Meh, y'all will be fine.

[potent harness]

keep it up bois

[sinful brook]

Wild there’s no compensation

[cerulean canopy]

what's your gray module bro

[analog scroll]

they haven't even fixed or compensated ember trek rewards being broken

[foggy cliff]

Swift. Lol. Atk, crit and eff acc

[cerulean canopy]

alright

[clear wadi]

please continue to share this with customer service

I don't think too many people were affected

but it's an important bug to keep pushing forward

[fickle sage]

well this day was a rip, can farm better gear, not gotten any better gear, all crap sub stats. stil using same old gear.

[tulip patio]

Was I banned or was that recent post deleted?

[copper nexus]

it was a duplicate so it was removed

[clear wadi]

the op said it was fine to delete as well

[fresh sail]

just dont shadow nerf my diting please 😢

[stoic pier]

Thank you for being an accesible staff member. I was skeptical you guys were just going to ignore the issues but its nice seeing you actually discussing and trying to explain stuff rather than throwing it under a rug. I hope the dev team can get the game back on tracks 😄

[unkempt basin]

So will there be any changes coming regarding this issue?

[copper nexus]

he probably can't say directly

[unkempt basin]

Im a bit ignorant but why?

[copper nexus]

cuz if the devs didn't relay every little bit of information to the CMs

and the CMs state smth or act on broken information

u get disconnects and bigger drama

so unless devs say

hey cms

go tell community x

then they can't say anything

is my interpretation

idfk

im not a CM

[stoic pier]

Its possible there isn't a clear direction they would take from this point on, so until there is a clear solution i think the CMs would rather not say anything that could escalate the situation even more

[copper nexus]

[foggy cliff]

Devs/Product Managers need to communicate what they'll do to CMs. Until they do (or even decide that), CMs can only know so much

[copper nexus]

pretty much

especially since things are calmed down now

at least here

i ahven't been on reddit

and will not

LOL

its a scary place there

O.o

[unkempt basin]

Like I just wanna know if they even acknowledge this issue, I don't want the specific changes per se, I just want to know if they're doing like anything at all about it.

[rich granite]

It’s uh not good over there right now

[rich granite]

Yeah there could have at least been a dev statement saying they’re discussing things. We are completely in the dark

[stoic pier]

He said a bit earlier this day that the sania stuff is a bit more complex so i guess they are looking at ways to please everyone

[unkempt basin]

I was asking cause I rly have no motivation to play if they leave issues like this as is

[copper nexus]

c said they are aware and are wokring on it

he cannot say whether they will make changes

u just have to wait and see

[unkempt basin]

Okay, that's enough for me

[copper nexus]

i say working on it btw

not meaning

"working on compensation"

it means

[unkempt basin]

Oof

[copper nexus]

figuring out what the fk they want to do

[meager cape]

Hey guys, I’m a bit late to this topic, but just to clarify one point: is there anywhere in the game where it explicitly says that Aurora simply cannot receive DoT? Even after a dispel?

[copper nexus]

with one of the options being

[rich granite]

That’s all I need to know for now. I will wait and see before I make my decisions for the game

[copper nexus]

"do nothing and screw over the community"

just don't want to put words in C's mouth

LOL

tldr aware but u still might get fucked so take it as u will

[rich granite]

Can’t be dispelled it’s in her kit

[copper nexus]

either spread the cheeks or keep playing as normal

[stoic pier]

I was pretty fired up these last 2 days because i just put together my DoT team, but to be honest we can just appreciate that the mr. c over here is actually talking on forums and not ignoring the matter. The bar is pretty low but that's how other gacha's did it till now

[unkempt basin]

I mean tbf they kinda have too

[stoic pier]

Still they need to figure out how to deal with this because it can't stay like that

Or so they dont do it again in the future

[unkempt basin]

I don't envy his position tho that's for sure

[rich granite]

This is the outcome that is most likely and the one that worries me

[copper nexus]

yep

but guess what

nothing u can do

[stoic pier]

Boss mechanics

[copper nexus]

just keep playing

so that if they give crazy compensaiton

a sincere apology with recogniztion of what kind of bullshit theyve done

then u won't regret it

lol

[unkempt basin]

And if they don't?

[rich granite]

Then we pack it up and move to a game that cares about us

[stoic pier]

I mean if they keep doing stuff like that, just stop playing

[copper nexus]

"hi is this royal bank of ____? I'd like to report fradulent charges on my credit card. No i have no idea what etheria restart is"

[stoic pier]

I can't go from one team to another just because the balancing team is feeling quirky one day

[copper nexus]

^

but anyways

theyre aware and thinking about what to do at the vrey least

community has calmed down lets not give c more trouble

LOL

he needs a break bro is having nightmares of this discord already '

[stoic pier]

Yeah, I hope they actually do something though and not just damage control. Really like this game, it has potential

[copper nexus]

100%

[unkempt basin]

They really have to up their communication tho

I would have felt more assured if they made an official announcement

[meager cape]

That's weird cuz I just took 1 charge of her anti-dot buff so I was expecting that it could be completely removed...

[copper nexus]

yep, and c has also criticized that himself saying it should have been done better

[hollow iris]

Dont even need to lie, in fact bad to do so. I already submitted my chargeback.

[fickle sage]

I dont understand why they need to be immune to dots? whats the difference of rilmocha bodying a stage and shadow sania bodying a stage other than its harder to get sania

[copper nexus]

and mentioned he will relay all these criticism to the dev team

[stoic pier]

It's not something you can dispel anymore its just an innate passive

[hollow iris]

Though my bank has a 30 day processing time, so theres time for me to cancel if they smarten up

[meager cape]

It literally just went from 3 to 2 wym

[hollow iris]

I dont understand why farming is supposed to be challenging in this game.

[spiral wedge]

random question sorry but why is phase 2 locked for lingluo event

[stoic pier]

My cup of tea is, DoT's should have been nerfed on bosses but buffed on other content such as doki or aoe in general

[hollow iris]

not revealing the reward

[queen patrol]

Probably will be unlocked tomorrow

[stoic pier]

So that the team could actually be useful everywhere instead of being a gimmick

[queen patrol]

Same as all of the other chapters being locked until the day you can start them

[stoic pier]

But nerfed shouldn't mean removed, thats for sure

[hollow iris]

My cup of tea is that if you build a balanced team with the correct element (balanced as in a dps, a buffer, a debuffer, sustain + flex slot for boss mechanic) OR a highly synergestic team like DoT you should have no problems farming instead of this weird ass build the same handful of units or just get fucked in pve

[fickle sage]

It was ages ago I played e7(which is my most similar game) and im pretty sure you could dot any boss

[hollow iris]

Difficulty should be like, ember trek, that cute element restriction mode. Not just getting my modules

[stoic pier]

Well I 100% agree, all I'm saying is if they wanted to nerf sania somehow, they should have just lowered the ratios maybe. And also she should be usable by herself in some degree aswell, It's weird that one of the rarest units in the game is dependent on 2 SRs and can't function at all without them. She wasn't even that crazy on everything else, rn ditting is a monster everywhere and i dont see any dev having a problem with that weirdly..

[hollow iris]

using my union mates Diting on boss made me wanna quit after seeing his invested performance compared to my invested massiah

[stoic pier]

FR man, my Massiah is like a toddler compared to a semi built ditting in a funnel team

[weak basin]

Just invest in both

[stoic pier]

If i didn't have like 7 latices used for Fangus maybe i would, hence this thread lol

[hollow iris]

I have a S3S4S5 Mass. Cant clear hell 3 terror or hell 4 doki and hell 3 doki is a tedious manual battle that makes me wanna kms

[stoic pier]

Im at hell 2 in terror with my DoT team currently, Doki is a no no until i get Rilmocha built because i dont have Kloss or Hein or Lily

But yeah module farming should be just auto battle

not sweaty

[hollow iris]

my rilm is s1s1s3 so she performs worse than my mass at doki

[fickle sage]

I want to invest in fangus and sania but seems like a bad idea atm

[hollow iris]

and mas isnt exactly performing gr8

[stoic pier]

They are still great for terror but everything else you are better off building some universal units rn

I would wait some days to see how they handle this situation

[foggy cliff]

Fastest clears use both

[fresh sail]

just don't nerf diting PLEASE lmao

[stoic pier]

Yeah, Ditting doing 96.9% of the damage and Massiah using the mighty SWORD SLAP

[hollow iris]

Hotfix : Diting damage unintended

[copper nexus]

[hollow iris]

Hotfix: Massiah def ignoring doki minions unintended

[foggy cliff]

I think it was closer to equal. Massiah damage increases on lower HP enemies with S2. S3 ignores 70% of DEF so you can just ignore the need for def reak

[copper nexus]