Daily quests needs to much stamina to finish

[austere tapir]

i went in to the game for the sole purpose to finish daily quests for the last reward
i had 140 Stability going in to this
i lvled up and gain another 100 stability
I used 1 Mental Stability for another 100 stability
i did everything to just finish off daily quests for the last reward in the daily (50 crystals)
i even did 1 pull, lvled module and empowered it, which i dont see myself wanting to do every single day, same with lvling a character up, later i wont be doing this
And yet, i had to use 340~ total Stability to finish it and those doesnt even use Stability

as a F2P, i do not want to use my Mental stability or lvl up and do pulls every single day to just finish my dailies to grab the 50 crystals at the end

2 options i can think of right now

1. Make the more valuable rewards earlier, like completely reverse the rewards, crystal first and lvling mats and LAST currency

2. Give the quests more Mission points from them so you can finish the daily quicker, instead of 1 on each quest, give some of them 3 or even 5, log in 2 and so on, change it up and not keep them all at 1 mission point

[rugged fractal]

Hadn't considered this until it was brought up, so decided to take a gander at the easiest route to finishing your 12 mission points:
-Login (1pt)
-1 wish (doesnt have to be SR or SSR) (1 pt)
-Upgrade a shell (1 pt)
-Use xp item 10 items (This can be the blue, very common, can get several from one run) (10 stam + 2 pt)
-Empower Module 10 times (1 pt)

That's halfway! These are the 6 easiest I found. You can go further by doing:

-Upgrade a shell 10 times (1 pt)
-Empower module 20 times (1 pt)
-Arena Realm 5 times (You get 5 passes in Etherena a day, and these are easy) (2pt)
-Grim Pursuit, GP Outpost, Investigation (5) (1PT)
-Threshold (10 times) - 1pt

You definitly dont need but what you get daily from stability. I did today's with only the 154 I had. Granted, I had resources from previous days for some of the other tasks, but it also asks you to do some of those, so you should have the resources to do so.

I personally haven't had a single day on beta where daily reward claims is a problem, but I do agree that it takes a while to DO the dailies, compared to other Gacha.

[austere tapir]

ya i did multiple of the same to finish it off, and i didnt do arena to be fair but it just doesnt feel right to barely finish it up when my goal was to just try and do fully dailies because, i want to know if i can keep doing dailies everyday, and to me atleast when i tired, having to use mental stability and lvl up which is 200 just from them, and do pull that doesnt consume stability, scared me abit, can i really keep this up in the long run

[cinder oyster]

I read your original post, did something on discord for a few minutes, opened NIKKE, did my dailies there, closed NIKKE and took some minutes to read your comments.
(basically did my dailies there in 15m)

it takes a while to DO the dailies, compared to other Gacha.

A while is an understatement xD

[rugged fractal]

I think a lot of it will depend on cadence of character releases. I hope that 2* and 3* are not forgotten like other mainstream gacha games and that we get more of those too. That will open more more characters to spend exp on or level up modules.

I do think skipping arena may be a hinderance on you a little bit, this is sort of a PVP gacha game, and since they give 5 passes for free, even if you lose, it just says participate, and Etherena doesnt take long to do at all, so thats 2 points for free.

If you haven't done Etharena yet, I would highly suggest trying it, I'm not too big into PVP myself, but its been a mode I've really enjoyed. I've made it up to Platinum with little effort.

I do think making 50 gems @ 10 and Purple Latice @ 12 would greatly balance out some of your complaints though too.

er, imprint

[austere tapir]

havent tried it and cant even do it, i dont wanna do to much since i wanna wait for release, i just wanted to try out the stuff that i know i will most likely do everyday

[rugged fractal]

Honestly, I value the stamina matrice and the imprint more then the gems... but that could just be an early game thing. Feel like they are just constantly throwing gems at us. They drop from investigations too

[austere tapir]

but if doing arena makes this alot easier then sure, i will completely doom it yet

[rugged fractal]

Even if you hate arena, it just says participate, and you can completley auto that version of it. Can click through it mindlessly in a couple minutes. That's what my wife has been doing lol

[austere tapir]

but you have done all daily quests everyday without issue ?

i just cant wrap it around my head that arena can save me from using 200 stability and doing 1 pull and give a character 10 xp or module everyday

but wtf do i know

i just tried doing dailies exluding arena

[rugged fractal]

Here's a quick show of what you can do and how much stabability its costing me:

Arena: 2 pts
Investigation: 10 stamina, exp for 2 days. I'd consider this "free" because Honestly, with 40+ characters at release, and if they steady cadence release characters, I do not think you'll EVER run into this problem. You can dump blue books on characters you never play.
Login: 1 pt

That's 5 points with little effort, for 5 stamina.

Leveling up modules, you may not do that every day, but you will most likely be doing Threshold 20 times a day, if you're efficently farming FOR those modules that you WILL level up. -- I'd consider that 20 runs done in a day at +2 points. If you're not doing threshold, you're doing GP, or Investigations, or Shell farming, either way, there's no reason the ~200 stamina you get daily (250 if you do Union check in).
Threshold: 20 times - 2 pts
GP Outpost: 10 times - 2pts
Grim Pursuit: 10 times - 2 pts
Investigation: 10 times - 2 pts
You should be able to run a combination of these to easily get anywhere from 2-5 points. But let's consider you have 250 a day from Union checkin. That's 3 points.

That's 8 points.

Spending a single wish every day is entirely possible, even as F2P. There are just so many sources for wishes, including rare drops from stamina farms like Investigations.

That's 9 points.

You can finish it with upgrading modules or leveling up shells. Even if you dont want to use a shell, you can just put a little into it then scrap it and you get a decent amount of stuff back. And remember, you can keep those lower level shells and it cost less to upgrade, but it counts for your daily.
Module 10 times, Shell 10 times.

Even on days where Im mostly farming Thresholds, I am not having any issues hitting the dailies.

[austere tapir]

fair enough, i will keep this in mind then when release, i havent done much tbh since i dont wanna dig to much in to it, i just thought of testing doing dailies, and i tried to follow the quests to the point and felt overwhelmed with how much i need, but maybe its not to bad then if you do more later on the game, like i said, i havent done much at all, only lvl 13

thanks brotherman ❤️

[marble sail]

"Spending a single wish every day is entirely possible, even as F2P. There are just so many sources for wishes, including rare drops from stamina farms like Investigations."

You realise most of those are from one time rewards? After you've gotten them it's gonna be super dry. Pull amount from current beta will not be the same after the game launches it's gonna be a different situation and you can't be just pulling everyday to get dailies done. The fact that you have to do that just to complete dailies is absurd and is one more good reason why dailies need to get changed. You shouldn't be needing to do everything in the game just to complete dailies.