Nerf Marvel

[marsh ether]

Bruiser and slow cleave is the counter rn

Also in the tourney people ran sustain comps

[sturdy plover]

I didn't talk about play style or comp, I mean as a skill we can't counter turn meter boost but we can counter turn meter debuff with immunity and eff resist

[stuck raft]

You can just build faster chiaki she counters with her skill

[coarse scarab]

But having to think about how to answer a problem in a competitive gacha game is too much to ask

And this is even before we also add in how there is Amber and Lighthouse that cuck cleave over that is required to be good for Marvel to be good.

So the fact he falls off at just the sight of Bulwork set and we haven't even reached the peak of the mountain

[stuck raft]

Why cant my naked units just beat marvel Why do I need to build them

[coarse scarab]

Why can't I just win? Why doesn't my opp roll over and die?

[cinder oriole]

He's only going to be good for like 8 days

I really hope they leave almost all units alone

Things felt fine, and it's way too early to make any calls on balance yet

The game's going to change so much when we get past the new player rewards & people start farming end game gear

[sturdy plover]

I also think that everything is fine as is it for now, but some people think that marvel gonna ruin their game experience for a week and prolly it's important for them so I try to give some possible solution.

[atomic trench]

people tend to not think much ahead, they get stomped once by something and immediately come here to complain.

Marvel isnt going to be that much of a problem in 3-4 weeks

also Kraken is arguably stronger yet I don't see as many people complain about him

is it cause he is slower? that doesn't matter cause immunity set exists, so opener marvel isn't going to be the hottest thing.

[void thorn]

Wheres the OP?

[stuck raft]

can we buff marvel to strip with s3 before debuffing

[sand herald]

Can we buff s2 to give extra turn

And 50% push back too on his S2

[hearty cairn]

Yea for like… 2 days? 3 days? 😂😂

[magic violet]

Pls Buff Marvel S3 hit Chance too low

[native hornet]

SR units too weak, let's buff them more for f2p💯

[tulip jetty]

If they buff marvel they will also buff f2p accounts 👍

[sand herald]

we need buff marvel thread.

[wheat moon]

I wouldn’t mind some of the SR’s being buffed

[lean vessel]

Buff marvel woo yeah

[wheat moon]

Anyone but him

[lean vessel]

He so skinny. We need him swole

Buff him

[wheat moon]

I shall accept that buff

[sturdy plover]

Ok Marvel got nerfed but in the wrong direction I think, increase skills 3 CD won't matter that much in PvP but gonna be huge blow for PvE.

[quaint tapir]

Im actually inclined to agree but maybe thats what they were going for. He had an insane pve pick rate.

[warm sandal]

I am actually de-hyped from playing this game, seeing all these nerfs for the first time, today... it's not for the PVP side of things that I don't care about at all... it's for their previous PVE use... I really hate PVP for this reason. (balance changes negatively impacting PVE) As a F2P player, this is especially disheartening, since I won't have all the better SSR units to replace these nerfed SR units, early game, when they matter to account progression. Later on, eventually, I'll get those characters, but by then it won't matter.

[sturdy plover]

I've already de hype after they introduce the new unit, loly with another boring skill that combine CC and turn meter Thief. It's realy show their lack of creativity. That's alot direction they can take like curse skill after unit die or tank with protection why introduce another heroes with skill that already become Pain in the ars.

[marsh ether]

170 downvotes and it still went through

[quaint tapir]

Because theyre smart and dont listen to garbage feedback

They used actual usage data to make an informed decision

[quaint tapir]

So youre de hyped because the game didn't leave broken units as broken in a pvp gacha?

[warm sandal]

Depends on what you consider "broken", and balancing based on usage stats isn't wise. Usage stats are indicative of a problem, but may also suggest good design or useful design that simply fits the needs of players for a specific task. I've been playing games for over 3 decades, and I've experienced many dev teams that balance based on spreadsheets, instead of looking at the entire picture.

[marsh ether]

I mean I’m a spender and I’m kinda unhappy about the fact that they are making some changes to these SR.

It lowers diversity which is dangerous territory especially when it comes to like new unit power creeps all existing units heavily. Prior to Marvell nerf it’s like fine I can still use him over Mio but now the choice is like crystal clear

[quaint tapir]

"Balancing based on usage stats isn't wise" 🤣

OK bruh sure

[quaint tapir]

It lowers diversity? You're just going to find different units to replace them?

That's literally diversity 🤣

[marsh ether]

You have less options of said replacements though - why would you use Marvell if Mio exists

[supple tulip]

To invest in Marvel still right? Because he doesn't need a ton of SSR lattices

[quaint tapir]

Marvell being busted caused you not to have diversity?

[haughty forum]

more like they saw the money they can make by making the SR's worse, pure greed

[quaint tapir]

So its pure greed when SW and E7 nerf characters over 60% win rates?

[marsh ether]

I think you’re missing the point of what I’m saying - I’m just using Marvell as an example

[ebon marsh]

Yup. They want the spenders to spend more

[quaint tapir]

Sounds like the first smart financial decision they've made so far then

[warm sandal]

The current SSR upgrade is clearly a direct Kraken upgrade, so they nerfed him to make her look more appealing to buy. She's already better just by her kit, and didn't need to do that.

[quaint tapir]

Today ayin finds out an LD SSR is better than an RGB SR...what will they find out next

Stay tuned

[warm sandal]

?

[ebon marsh]

Yeah lol people still gonna spend, but they gonna try get mio now lol

[quaint tapir]

I need to see mio in action. Still kinda think lily hein will be better tbh.

[haughty forum]

look forward to spending 100usd for 20 pulls lmfao

[ebon marsh]

Lily and hein still top. Mio is also soooo good lol

[quaint tapir]

Oh so youre another one that is as dumb as alex?

[ebon marsh]

I think it’s a Joke lol

[quaint tapir]

By who?

Because Alex is serious lmao

[ebon marsh]

Shae

[haughty forum]

sarcasm is a difficult concept ferret fucker im sure ull get it one day 😛

[ebon marsh]

That guy is a goner

🤣

His post is out 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[quaint tapir]

Good.

Its bad when the mods roast you

They try really hard to be extremely nice

[elder crescent]

you are misreading the pack, thats yuan not usd

[supple tulip]

He's just made another thread now lol

[quaint tapir]

I'll get banned

[quaint tapir]

Gen chat and another thread roasted him for an entire day

He was still like "you guys are dumb, im right"

[ebon marsh]

🤣

[gilded briar]

tbh beta usage rate is not that representative of actual character strength, rosa’s 2% turn meter push reduction is hilarious and veronica being reverted to her previously “op” state is also ridiciolous

[gilded briar]

I though you didn’t support this company, they also made a game breaking change with base spd increase on stars (not even prowess stats are added to base) right after paid beta and you are satisifed?

[tulip jetty]

He's just trolling

[supple tulip]

Why is this game breaking?

[stuck raft]

Well she still got the nerf on s2 and s3 needs now eff acc

So not fully reverted

[gilded briar]

bc it’s added to base stats

meaning +8 speed with set

i mean long term not a large issue

but this along with all the ssr buffs, sr nerfs is going to make meta more uniform

the whole guest account discussions

I find it odd that a whale even wants to reroll

[supple tulip]

This is good.

Game wide it's just increased the amount of effect set bonuses have vs gear rolls for the Spd stat.

That's a direct buff for F2P players who won't be rolling as much gear as spenders.

[gilded briar]

I mean I can see it from both perspective but 6 star mats are pretty scarce

I think you can probably get 5 red shadowprints every 2 weeks but that just means srs will be on the lower priority

[supple tulip]

Only your openers need to maximize their speed as a priority. There's enough mats for F2P to do that easily

[gilded briar]

which is exactly what the devs intended with this new system since they were the ones that needed the star the least

now you need 6 star dps, openers, brusiers, etc

[supple tulip]

I'm sure if you take a step back and actually think it all through instead of just impulsively reacting and saying it's game breaking you'll see this is a good, well though out change. W from the devs.

[void thorn]

Yesssss They Nerf Marvell!!!

😂

[stuck raft]

Op must be thrilled

[void thorn]

Its okay they’ll release more units guys

[dusky helm]

That won't happen. Discord will be kinda dead on release though. Can just play the game and not worry about all this.

So like 3 days and its over

[torn forge]

fk this feedback never touch RTA and grass, still complain about nerf marvel now his cd got nerfed marvel was the saving grace of all ftp player its easy to get very good in early - mid game make progression easier now its harder to progress without spending bruh

this clown probably the type to sht talk every drama on the internet and has no life

[rapid sphinx]

why are u talking about yourself?

your comment says a lot about your cognitive abilities 😄

[torn forge]

i go to college, i would suggest finding a job first ur in ur 30s still complaining about this unit is too OP break the game and sht stfu and just play

[torn forge]

at least make ur mother proud unlike ur dad who left to get milk which is why i understand u complaining on a literal game

[dusky helm]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-shit-seriously-for-real-shocked-surprised-gif-12646040

[tame belfry]

@ashen dune

[dusky helm]

feedback has devolved into ragebaiting by like 4 people, getting ragebaited on and the xyro bans them as opposed to the instigators as well lol

[torn forge]

must be a fun person in party, the type to tell the teacher that he left the answers

[tame belfry]

Ig i get invited to parties at least

[torn forge]

or mb prob dont go to party at all mbmb

[tame belfry]

[torn forge]

good for u

hope its not a gay party

[tame belfry]

keep raging pls

[rapid sphinx]

Why are u crying Lian enjoyer?

[torn forge]

im rage baiting lul

[rapid sphinx]

And I repeat

Lian enjoyer

[tame belfry]

Let him have his schyzo moment

[torn forge]

shut up unc nobody need ur opinion

[rapid sphinx]

Asking why are you crying is not an opinion

Lian enjoyer

[torn forge]

yes im schizo

[torn forge]

🤓

nerdy ahh unc

[rapid sphinx]

Ahahah ok

[torn forge]

stfu and just play game not even launch yet stop complaining sht

[rapid sphinx]

Lian enjoyer

[vernal breach]

Faster marvel never won you the match
Proper team configuration did

[dusky helm]

my modules did*

[vernal breach]