Not launching in VR

[frozen hollow]

Here's my current fucked situation. I use a Oculus Rift S. I am running two GPUs. My main, which is more powerful, is an Intel card, as of right now, Intel does not support VR (cringe, i know)

So to remedy this, i run an older, but still VR capable 8GB AMD GPU as a secondary.

So what i usually have to do to get games to work is assign the correct GPU to to all of the game's related processes, as well as all of the Steam VR and Oculus processes.

I got Geronimo, assigned all four of the .exe files within the game files to the correct GPU, yes, even the Visual C++ programs.

I have tried restarting my pc, restarting Steam, restarting Meta Quest Link.
I have tried it with both Steam and Oculus as the default runtime.
I have tried having only my headset plugged in, and unplugging my monitor.

The only thing i can see being the issue is that there is some other process running somewhere else that Geronimo is dependent on, which i need to assign the correct GPU to.

[coarse pelican]

Hmmmm. I would assume that setting the Geronimo-Win64-Shipping.exe to the correct GPU would indeed fix it. Can you explain what happens when you launch the game?

[frozen hollow]

It launches, just in flat screen, headset movement does not track, the game does not display to the headset, the camera stays stationary pointed at some corner. It is in the same position everytime.

[coarse pelican]

Okay, that's good to know. I doubt that has to do with the GPU actually. This seems more like a link issue that other people have experienced as well. You noted trying both Oculus as OpenXR runtime as well as SteamVR?

[frozen hollow]

correct, i have tried both. I can run it again if you believe it was a fluke.

[coarse pelican]

I would recommend trying that one more time and we'll consider other options if that does not fix it!

[frozen hollow]

i switched steam to default, restarted my pc, tried it again. No dice.

[viscid gate]

do you have any openxr layers like openxrtoolkit? go to the openxr tab (make sure you have advanced settings on) and open “manage openxr layers” and disable compatibility plugin for oculus xr + any other layers you may have enabled then set “meta plugin compatibility” to off

[frozen hollow]

no layers

[viscid gate]

already tried disabling the oculusxr plugin?

[frozen hollow]

oh shit my bad

[viscid gate]

i will say uuuh you are running a bit of an unconventional setup

[frozen hollow]

oh, it is disabled

[frozen hollow]

for sure

[viscid gate]

have you run into issues with other games while trying to use this? the general consensus i’ve seen online is that this setup doesn’t work great

[frozen hollow]

the only other game i've had issues with is trying to run the Minecraft VR mod. Generally every vr game on steam has worked for me.

[viscid gate]

i see

are you able to try virtual desktop’s openxr runtime to see if that would fix the problem?

[frozen hollow]

haven't really used virtual desktop before, i can take a look.

[empty loom]

@frozen hollow Could you go into the steam launch arguments and type in "-log" ? There should be a console popping up with logs.

[frozen hollow]

Invalid API version seems like it could be the issue?

[empty loom]

same error as mine

its on the devs from now on

there was nothing i could do

i went as far as replacing the game files

[coarse pelican]

Guys that's very helpful! I'm looking into this asap

[frozen hollow]

Godspeed 🫡

[empty loom]

thank you! cant wait to play the game

[coarse pelican]

@frozen hollow @empty loom Could you test something for me?
Go into: %appdata%/local/Geronimo/Saved/Config/Windows and open Engine.ini and put:

[/Script/OpenXRHMD.OpenXRHMDSettings]
xr.OpenXRInvertAlpha=True
bIsOpenXR1_0Enabled=True
bIsOpenXR1_1Enabled=False

See if that helps!

[empty loom]

still the same error for me

[frozen hollow]

same error, no change

because of the API mismatch, i'm giving a go at repairing my Meta link, and verifying files on steam vr

[coarse pelican]

It's kind of weird SteamVR is not up to date with the latest openxr api but hopefully I can force the game to run on 1.0

[empty loom]

The weird thing is i tried every major runtime VDXR, SteamVR and Quest Link nothing worked.

Even tried replacing the openxr_loader.dll but it just throws a different error so im assuming there is a code mismatch between the versions.

[frozen hollow]

do you have a normal setup? As in, not my Frankenstein's monster of hardware?

[empty loom]

wdym by a frankenstein monster? but i have a normal AMD + AMD PC.

[frozen hollow]

i'm running double GPUs because my main doesn't support vr. So i was wodnering if that was the connecting factor, but it seems not. Which is a relief to myself, but obviously does not fix the issue.

[empty loom]

Could be an AMD issue.

I saw someone else managing to get it working but he had a 5090

[frozen hollow]

hmmm, could be

[elfin silo]

i had this same issue, and on 2nd reinstall it just happened to fix itself for me

i was losing my mind trying to fix it

[frozen hollow]

What gpu you got chief?

[elfin silo]

currently 2060 as my 9070xt is being repaired

[frozen hollow]

Hmm, yeah our issue could relate to AMD then.

[empty loom]

yea...

[elfin silo]

yeah idk, i just had the exact same thing with game loading only on flatscreen, hope it works when my 9070xt comes back

[empty loom]

it might not honestly. this seems like a AMD driver issue now.

[fierce crater]

Same issue here. If I start with Virtuel Desktop and Steam VR it works. With Steam Link and Steam VR black screen. But I have the OculusXR Plugin running in Steam VR. I will test without plugins

Using Intel and Nvidia

[coarse pelican]

Yeah Steam Link is known to cause this issue currently with Geronimo, unfortunately. I think their XR API might be outdated, so hopefully setting the API back on the game itself (something I have to do) will fix it

[coarse pelican]

I use an AMD card myself without issues

[coarse pelican]

A 9070XT as well

[empty loom]

what runtime are you using? VDXR or quest link?

[frozen hollow]

@coarse pelican around when can we expect the API backdate?

[coarse pelican]

Hopefully today. I’m trying Steam Link to replicate the issue

[coarse pelican]

Steam Link does not give me any issues launching. Unfortunate, I was hoping it would've so I could replicate it

[coarse pelican]

Actually after reading the OpenXR source code, I think it's supposed to into Game.ini not Engine.ini, same folder. If the Game.ini doesn't exist you can create it @empty loom @frozen hollow

Let's see if that helps

[empty loom]

The error is gone but unfortunately i cannot test it with a VR headset right now

[coarse pelican]

Alright, so looks like we're getting somewhere

[empty loom]

i briefly tested it but it still is not working and therd arent any error logs.

[coarse pelican]

So the issue persists just without the open xr log?

[empty loom]

yes

[coarse pelican]

Dang

[frozen hollow]

hmm, so the only file i had in that folder is "GameUserSettings.ini", which is where i pasted those lines you provided. I hadn't realized you said Engine.ini before. So should i try the opposite, make an Engine.ini ?

[coarse pelican]

No it should be Game.ini

If it doesn’t exist, you can just make one

[frozen hollow]

Rog'

[frozen hollow]

Same result as Knifej, no more error, still does not open in VR,

Interesting. I tried swapping Oculus back to default runtime, it didn't work, but it deleted the Game.ini file, and the log is back.

[empty loom]

@coarse pelican Is there any args i can put to have more logs? or do i need a special game version?

[empty loom]

I managed to fix the issue after many hours of debugging with nothing but the issue is most definetly on the user side. Also i am not 100% sure if this works for everyone but it should. (Its the cause of most problems with VR not launching anyway)

What my guess to the issue was are OpenXR API layers XRNeckSafer, XRFoveatedRendering etc.

https://github.com/fredemmott/openxr-api-layers-gui/releases

I recommend downloading this tool for disabling the API layers. And you should disable 99% of things there. Only thing i decided not to disable is the VD Oculus compatibility layer.

Besides that, you need to apply the fix Stilton provided in the other message.

Go to %localappdata%/Geronimo/Saved/Config/Windows , Create the "Game.ini" file. (Case sensitive) and paste in these contents:

xr.OpenXRInvertAlpha=True
bIsOpenXR1_0Enabled=True
bIsOpenXR1_1Enabled=False```

The game should launch in VR now.

Other things that might work if this didn't.

- If your and AMD GPU change your drivers to the VD recommended version.
- Reinstall VD.

If anyone else has this issue please point them to this message.

@frozen hollow If you could confirm this actually works would be lovely.

Or anyone really

[vernal karma]

Does this work with other games

[empty loom]

It should

Honestly idk why i didnt start with this first lol

Atleast the API disabling part. The Game.ini is UE5 specific.

[coarse pelican]

Amazing! You typed Config.ini, I think it should be Game.ini right?

[empty loom]

oh

your right

my bad

fixed

[coarse pelican]

You're the best

[empty loom]

well we dont know if it works yet. i mean for me it does

[left bane]

can confirm this works for me.
it's this Quad-View-Foveated thing causing trouble in my case. I didn't add the Game.ini but it just runs.

[regal stag]

anyone been able to solve this problem with the index?

[empty loom]

The fix should be similar you can try the steps I did. If it doesn't work you might have a different bug.

[regal stag]

did everything in the post and didnt work until i restarted shouldve deleted the post my bad

[empty loom]

Your good

[frozen hollow]

@empty loom yeah no dice for me. I might be missing something, but i don't even have anything to disable in that program.

yeah every time i launch now the Game.ini file just gets deleted

[empty loom]

Check other tabs, and what runtime are you using?

Also running the game through steam on PC somehow deletes the game.ini. For me it isnt deleting when using the games tab on VD.

[frozen hollow]

steam. I'm getting VD now

other tabs are empty aswell

[empty loom]

This is weird. Do you play any other VR games? Also install virtual desktop streamer and tell me if it detects anything (the streamer is free)

[frozen hollow]

yup. And i already got classic just now, will that not work?

[empty loom]

holy this is really weird

you never used openxr toolkit?

or foveated rendering?

[frozen hollow]

nope

[empty loom]

whats your "VR" gpu?

[frozen hollow]

A very abused RX 580

[empty loom]

i saw people actually playing on B580s so maybe you can try? unless your using a different intel gpu.

i doubt an RX580 can run a UE5 VR game...

[frozen hollow]

From the research i did, that only works through VD and a standalone headset. But i have VD now so i'll play around with stuff.

But yeah, i wanted to see if it runs, but i haven't even been able to get there in the first place

[empty loom]

Yea, it might work only for VDXR for some weird reason

[near gale]

Seems to work fine for a bit, then screen tears and goes black, looks to be running fine on my monitor, but on my headset no worky. Intel i9 9900K, nvidia 3060 12GB, quest 2. Gonna be honest, I'm tech savy only to a certain point lol. I was able to get to the point where I'm stuck right with AL3. Any advice or help would be appreciated!

[empty loom]

Well thats a different issue then. Idk how much i can help. Im no gamedev by any means and OpenXR is especially complicated same as VR rendering pipelines. I would look first in the #1525050668295913502 channel if your issue is not listed then create a new bug report.

Try launching the game with the -log arg. And send the logs from the console.

And OpenXR logs from VD could be useful also if you have that.

[twilit path]

Can someone help me with this same issue? I made a bug report and I'm really excited to play the game, but it isn't possible

dawg I don't even know what a VD is 😭 edit: oh, virtual desktop

[alpine raft]

Might sound dumb but i got my game to launch by simply enabling virtual desktop in device manager and launching the game through VD instead of linking through meta

[frozen hollow]

Vd seems to be the fix for the most part

For those that can use it anyway, lol

[empty loom]

What runtime are you using?

[twilit path]

Runtime for?

[twilit path]

I unfortunately do not fall into the category of people that can use it

[empty loom]

Like steamvr or quest link

Headset also would be nice to know and your PC specs

[twilit path]

I'll have to grab that later, I'm heading out right now

[empty loom]

Okay

[twilit path]

Running a valve index, steamvr.

PC:
Current windows version
Intel I7-13700kf
32 gb SK Hynix DDR4 (3200MHz)
Sapphire RX 7900XT

[empty loom]

Okay so steamvr for some reason is just not working got it

@coarse pelican could you edit the know issues so it says that steamvr still is not working?

But i dont think i can take on and help with this issue when i have nothing to debug on. Sorry guys

[coarse pelican]

SteamVR works for many people, and for some it doesn't

[empty loom]

yea this is such a weird issue

@twilit path
#1525436505995214860 message
try this fix if you havent already

[twilit path]

Already did unfortunately

[empty loom]

does the console from the -log arg say anything?

[twilit path]

I would have to look when i get home

[empty loom]

Okay

[twilit path]

I do have a little more info in my post #1526394146045169816

[empty loom]

I think it's a different issue then. This is a fix for the game not even detecting your headset and there are boxes on the screen that don't move

[twilit path]

Could be. It's a game issue for sure though, everything else works fine.

Played other games without issue.

[unborn shore]

Just wanted to hop in and say Im having the same issue. Shows on display but does not detect/play in HMD. I tried these fixes and they have not worked for me. On quest 3 with link cable. 4080 Super ryzen 7 7800x3d

[coarse pelican]

Are you using meta as xr runtime?

[unborn shore]

It was not. I just set it as my active and it now is working. Virtual Desktop appeared to be my xr runtime according to the meta link app and i just set it as active.

[lost leaf]

Is there a planned patch to fix this "Not Launching in VR" error? Much love to the Devs and congrats on the release. I'm glad you found a workaround. But I'm not jumping through this many hoops to launch a paid game.

[lost leaf]

I found a different workaround. I assume it does the same thing you're suggesting, but it's much quicker.

If you go to the SteamVR settings on your desktop. Click the OpenXR tab --> MANAGE OPEN XR API LAYERS --> toggle everything off --> launch game

It immediately booted into VR for me.

[runic meteor]

@lost leaf interesting workaround the issue i had was a little different because rather than open XR layers in the steam menu being the issue for some reason i had to disable reshade in open XR API layers from github good job though👍

[empty loom]

Both basically do the same thing, maybe steamvr does it a bit better i have no idea.

[coarse pelican]

I would love to patch this, I just have no idea how and if it's anything I can control.

@empty loom after fixing it, does the API error still show up? I'm curious if that's actually related or not

[empty loom]

You mean the version thing? Yes, but the game launches in VR regardless. From what i know Quadviews-Foveated-Rendering is bound to have issues with modern UE5 games. I honestly dont think there is anthing you can do to fix it necessarily but you can reproduce the bug by installing quadview foveated rendering, and or other OpenXR API layers.

Maybe you can try fixing it from there

[coarse pelican]

Okay, will do. Thanks!

[frozen hollow]

I would like to mention. Utilizing VDXR, and removing layers oseems to be a fix for those using streaming headsets. But those workarounds don't work for folks like myself who use a wired headset. the game.ini thing takes the version error away, but running steamvr deletes it, and the game still launches into flatscreen.

I don't know what headset you use, but if it's a standalone headset, perhaps trying to get your hands on a wired headset could give you somewhere to start.

[honest sapphire]

Hey I am having the same problem and I am a little confused please will u help me PC spec: I have a nvidia GeForce rtx 5090, AMD Ryzen 9 9950x3D, 1125GB. I use steam vr I have the Pimax Dream air slam and the BigScreen beyond 2 I use both it won’t even launch on the dream air slam it gives me some type of error code thing

The game will launch on my screen, but it won’t launch on either of my VR headset my headset

i have tired ur method but im just confused honestly

[honest sapphire]

Can u help me too

[empty loom]

Im sorry but i am no tech support person. And quite frankly i dont have the time to help people on this complicated matter. You will need to wait until Stilton figures something out.

That goes to all people please dont ask me or dm me for help

[honest sapphire]

sorry dude

[empty loom]

dont be sorry but its just a lot of people ask me and i dont have the time for that