well we do not have speaking character's and that ai hearing players is rejected so the only choice is knocking but putting them on the ground would be hard to implement since hand to hand is rejected too
#(For playing as SWAT) Ability to announce presence and push arrested non combatants to the ground
tribal stone
well we do not have speaking character's and that ai hearing players is rejected...
Not saying physically speaking, just some way to announce police presence, could just be audio when you break in, I know hand to hand is rejected but they have shown arresting NPCs, just saying some way to get them to the ground
Pebbles said there was gonna be some SWAT stuff
Other countries don’t have SWAT teams though their teams have a different designation, did Pebbles or Stilton specifically say there wouldn’t be?
HRT is FBI though and they would also be arresting non combatants and have to announce their presence
tribal stone
yup also non lethal is rejected
Arrests have already been shown though, pushing them to ground while being cuffed would just be expanding on that
(For playing as SWAT) Ability to announce presence and pish arrested non combatants to the ground
(For playing as SWAT) Ability to announce presence and push arrested non combatants to the ground
azure bay
mmmmmm beans
tribal stone
HRT is American, just ignore my post if it’s not something you want
tribal stone
I don’t understand what this has to do with my suggestion, announcing police presence is a law for the FBI including HRT teams and SWAT unless under different rules of engagement. I don’t get why you’re so against it being an option
I just wanna slam on their door and scream FBI open up my man, enough said
heavy flower
https://youtu.be/DaZelDZmATk
"Executed harpham arrest" thats the importan point
limber mason
I’m pretty sure you’re not playing as swat or police in this game. Even HRT would be a stretch lmao
Yeah
Idk what SOP’s or ROE’s the overseas HRT got but yeah
limber mason
It literally says HRT has the better training and equipment on the bottom of the page hahaha
Over SWAT that is
heavy flower
I did not find information where the HRT is mentioned arresting people. However, I also did not find the results of operations carried out by the HRT other than the mention of the arrest of suspects in a prison assault in 1991.
You claim that the HRT doesn't arrest suspects or doesn't try, then prove it.
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heavy flower
https://www.thelocal.fr/20230409/man-arrested-over-gendarmes-killing-in-guiana-p...
GIGN
European swat teams....
heavy flower
France
Ignore that his statement is fallacious. keep explaining
We are no longer talking about the game. This is what you think European anti-terror groups have rules of military engagement
limber mason
We are no longer talking about the game. This is what you think European anti-te...
They do
heavy flower
I already know that the devs said that for a long time and I feel that it is more due to the complexity of programming the AI to act in that way.
Prove it
Show me the articles, the operations , sops, etc
limber mason
Lmao
heavy flower
So there is no proof. The items I send you prove that they arrest the suspects.
It is so much so that they arrested a person who killed a GIGN member
Prove it
Surrenders, i know
But they are not the same as the European swat
So show me the GIGN or the GSG 9
That's because he's a guy who can get information from him later.
They do it as a military objective, not to save his life.
limber mason
So there is no proof. The items I send you prove that they arrest the suspects.
...
NOBODY SAID THEY DONT ARREST PEOPLE
even special forces arrests HVTS and what not’s
There a pretty strict rule set of when you’re actually allowed to open fire on an enemy
heavy flower
NOBODY SAID THEY DONT ARREST PEOPLE
I've talked to parmesan for a while now and this guy doesn't care about the police. The worst thing is that every time he feels cornered he denies the statements he made in the past
limber mason
And at some point if you shoot and he wasn’t actually a threat or was surrendered thats a war crime
heavy flower
And at some point if you shoot and he wasn’t actually a threat or was surrendere...
This is not with you. Parmesan insults others and has caused other people to leave the server due to its toxicity
He is one of the most proud and self-centered guys I have ever met in my entire life.
That's why lately I've only reacted to posts instead of giving my opinion.
limber mason
This what you mean
Because i can’t find where he said they don’t arrest people at all
limber mason
This is not with you. Parmesan insults others and has caused other people to lea...
Well I mean you’re kinda escalating an argument over something he didn’t even say tho
heavy flower
Because i can’t find where he said they don’t arrest people at all
Basically it's not trying to get suspects to give up. Like throwing a flashbang into a room and instead of making them give up, what they do is killing them
limber mason
Depends on ROE’s not everyone is bound by law to bring suspects out alive
Basically, if an enemy has a gun you’re not bound by law to tell him to drop it before shooting him. Especially if he even remotely makes a movement with the firearm
heavy flower
Depends on ROE’s not everyone is bound by law to bring suspects out alive
And that is what I see that does not understand parmesan. Affirming that the EUROPEAN swat have the same combat rules as the military in the United States
Roles, not rules
limber mason
And that is what I see that does not understand parmesan. Affirming that the EUR...
They mainly do tho
heavy flower
Prove it
limber mason
Sure some rules might be a little different but the fundamentals is all the same
heavy flower
Prove it
heavy flower
So don't tell it like it's the absolute truth.
If you can't argue it with evidence then it may be true or it may be a lie
limber mason
This guy man
heavy flower
Prove it
limber mason
I’m done this is making my brain melt lmao
heavy flower
Show me the evidence
limber mason
Show me the evidence
Bro the evidence you’re looking for is literally classified jesus
Fr
heavy flower
Bro the evidence you’re looking for is literally classified jesus
So don't say it like it's true. If they don't have proof to confirm their claims then they just stay in vague thoughts.
Its simple
limber mason
So don't say it like it's true. If they don't have proof to confirm their claims...
It is true
heavy flower
It is true
Prove it
limber mason
You want me to send you classified documents on discord?
Even if i had them that would be a pretty large prison sentence
heavy flower
You want me to send you classified documents on discord?
If they are classified, you should not have access. If you do not have access to the documents, you do not have access to the information within them. That means you don't have real evidence. If you do not have truthful evidence, then it means that what you said is based on a feeling or subjective thought, so it may be a lie or it may be true.
limber mason
Hahahaha
heavy flower
Its simple
limber mason
Sure bud
Its not like former operators have talked about it at all or anything like that.
heavy flower
Parmesan typically has articles supporting its claims. Now he doesn't have them
Like the new guns for the germany army
limber mason
Because writing an article on classified government documents is considered treason actual treason!
heavy flower
They can contrast public information to draw a trend.
The trend of European swat groups in public information is arrest
Although a trend is not totally true, but it ceases to be a hypothesis and becomes a theory.
limber mason
What have you smoked my guy
heavy flower
It's like saying that to prove that the big bang existed, they traveled back in time.
limber mason
Yeah thats a totally relevant subject
heavy flower
Basically they're not saying something is true if they can't prove it, like what they just said about the European SWAT rules of engagement.
limber mason
Well it is proven to the people working with it. As an outsider you’re never gonna get the proof you’re looking for
heavy flower
They say it's true, but they have no evidence or trends. So it can be true as much as it can be a lie.
heavy flower
Well it is proven to the people working with it. As an outsider you’re never gon...
Send me the articles
limber mason
It cant tho
limber mason
Send me the articles
Brother they are not available for the public eye do you know what classified means?
heavy flower
Brother they are not available for the public eye do you know what classified me...
So how do you know if what you say is true?
limber mason
You’re not gonna get proof because you’re not in the environment
heavy flower
That doesn't prove anything, only that you use ROE's that you think are those of other units
limber mason
The only difference is special forces don’t have “their hands tied” as much because their work is HIGHLY important
heavy flower
The only difference is special forces don’t have “their hands tied” as much beca...
Prove it
????
That still doesn't prove anything without evidence
limber mason
The fact that you don’t understand what that means speaks volumes
limber mason
Your never gonna get evidence unless you become a special forces member
limber mason
no evidence is basically your word against mine
It isn’t tho because its a widely know fact that special forces operations have different SOP’s and ROE’s
heavy flower
Parmesan was not in military service and he has said that several times and even so he affirms those kinds of things
limber mason
You still have ROE’s as a cop or body guard or whatever
Idk know what he works with
heavy flower
It isn’t tho because its a widely know fact that special forces operations have ...
So we can conclude a hypothesis that the ROE and the SOP of the European forces are not the same
heavy flower
the fundamentals are
obviously they are going to have similar fundamentals for being "fundamentals". But after that everything can change, keep in mind that the forces train each other to learn something about the others, maybe that's why they could have similar sop's. They also work for the same head, which would be NATO, which could have standardized the forces of European countries more.
limber mason
Depending on what tier that unit is its gonna have very similar ROE’s
heavy flower
I could believe me that the European forces have similar procedures due to the type of relationship that the countries of that continent have. Now that they have procedures similar to the American ones is something else.
In the Second World War each country had its way of fighting, German machine guns, British with precise fire, Americans with artillery, Russians with wear, etc...
limber mason
Mf they where mostly infantry. And there where totally Different back then
Anyways like i said im done trying to explain it
heavy flower
Ok
hexed gyro
7hrs later lmao
quiet imp
tribal stone
Jesus Chris ya’ll, go outside, I just wanna bang on people’s doors