M24

[half current]

Nah MRAD Fr Fr

[calm lintel]

Fr fr

I change my mind i want mrad 🥶

[jovial glen]

game is CQB oriented

[calm lintel]

ik

[jovial glen]

why would you bring an outdated bolt action rifle into a modern CQB scenario as an elite military or counter terror unit

[calm lintel]

🫥

idk why not

[coral hollow]

OML guys... when modding is released you can just put it into the game yourselves....

[midnight hound]

Literally for the reasons he just stated

For a serious game trying to be realistic that would make no sense and be a waste of the devs time

[tight sparrow]

Do you know sierra from swat 4?

[jovial glen]

yes

[tight sparrow]

Could be useful in some situations

Maybe an m24 is not the most effective, but they could put more modern bolt-action rifles. This is because these rifles are supposed to be more accurate than TDs due to their simplicity.

[midnight hound]

None of the maps are going to be big enough for that amount of accuracy to matter

Semi autos are plenty accurate out to incredibly fat distances and are much more flexible than bolt actions are

[tight sparrow]

Options

And like I said, a bolt action rifle is supposed to be more accurate because it has fewer moving parts than a TD rifle. This is why some SWAT snipers use bolt action rifles over TD rifles. Also, it's not something that affects me much and I also don't see it as a weapon archetype that affects the development time that much (The devs once said that adding a weapon to the game usually costs them a day or a few)

https://youtu.be/po5NWCMXI2A A moment that needed precision, the sniper used the bolt-action rifle instead of a semi-automatic rifle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGeHPVZ371E A moment that needs quick shots, the sniper used a TD rifle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8X1arxbpro another example

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1000016784059011173/1027269705372794920/HighresScreenshot00003.png?width=930&height=702 And the maps won't always be cqb if you check the dev updates. It is a mix between CQB-only maps and medium-range combat maps, something similar to ground branch

[tight sparrow]

There will not always be a modder community that does all these kinds of things, it is like waiting for your lottery ticket to be a winner to be able to pay off a debt that you started just by having that idea in mind. You can check example's like thunder tier one or the one of O:HD who hoped to support their games based on the mods made by the community.

[jovial glen]

there is nothing you can do at this range with a bolt action that you couldnt do with an AR using an LPVO

[midnight hound]

Exactly

At very extreme ranges, maybe you would want a bolt action

But this game isn’t about extreme ranges so a bolt action wouldn’t make sense

[jovial glen]

and the reason why some police and swat teams still use bolt action rifles at not huge ranges isnt because they are highly effective at low-mid range but because police departments typically are not as up to date and do not have as much funding as the elite units we are playing as

[midnight hound]

Very well said

[coral hollow]

m8 you do realize people can learn how to mod right?? if they want something badly enough learn how to do it yourself and you wont have to beg people anymore

[tight sparrow]

https://youtu.be/OBY4uBl1U7A

[midnight hound]

Nobody is saying that bolt actions aren’t more accurate than semi autos. We are saying that it doesn’t matter for the distances we will be engaging at and overall a bolt action would be less practical than a semi auto

[jovial glen]

peoples idea of precision shooting is like a 85m shot because of battlefield istg

on any weapon that isnt a smoothbore or some shit you probably wont really notice any inaccuracy below 150m

[midnight hound]

Yup

Dudes have made shots at 1000 meters with m110s