Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

[pallid gull]

i wanted to make an edit with my own footage but i didnt think of recording and now i'd have to replay the game for that

[wheat tulip]

Omg enjoyy

Felt also just woke up jfkfkf

[pallid gull]

morny 🤝

[wheat tulip]

Good morniing

Or since we are in e33 thread , bonjouuur

[wheat tulip]

||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdkT75CE/ || p5 edit

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

[wheat tulip]

||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdkwW8DX/ || p5 content NAWT GUILLAUME STARING AT BEN LIKE THAT LMAO

[pallid gull]

||LMAO no but real because how do you answer anything related to him when his entire existence is such a spoiler||

[wheat tulip]

||just mentioning him is a spoiler lmao||

[languid gyro]

Was going back through the Sandfall channel yesterday to watch all the trailers just to feel something and it’s so interesting that ||they have a character trailer for everyone except Verso; even Monoco got one. You really just can’t say anything about this man safely 💀 ||

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

[vivid peak]

Don’t laugh at me but I last remember eating dinner while watching a YouTube video and now I’ve woken up on my couch and it’s the middle of the night… guess I’ll try again tomorrow

I am more exhausted than I thought I was

[wheat tulip]

Oh no hope you slept well 😭

[languid gyro]

Definitely been there, nothing to laugh about 🫂 get some rest when you can!

[pallid gull]

hope you can get some rest properly jonjon 😭

[vivid peak]

Thank you I’m in my actual bed now

Enjoy your days friends!

[pallid gull]

nini!

[wheat tulip]

Bonne nuiit

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/tuckahomie-gif-6126133748082358853

[keen thunder]

per topic from stream: I remember now it was from a japanese website interview https://vxtwitter.com/Genki_JPN/status/1927416194719465967

Genki✨ (@Genki_JPN)

The JRPG’s that influenced Expedition 33 Creative Director Guillaume Broche:

• Final Fantasy series VI to X
• Shadow Hearts
• Suikoden series
• Atelier series
• Lost Odyssey
• Persona series

https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/2505223a https://t.co/aZuN1vjzJp

vxTwitter / fixvx · May 27, 2025, 5:26 PM

[languid gyro]

[end of Act 2] ||frankly embarrassing that despite me literally commenting on the track named [Renoir] being the Sophie Gommage theme back when I picked it up in Old Lumiere it took me this long to realize “yeah you idiot because Renoir is literally the one doing the Gommage, not the Paintress” I cannot believe the game just blatantly threw that in our face in mid Act 2 and we still didn’t realize 💀 ||

||Granted, even if I made the connection back then of “oh is it Renoir and not the Paintress actually” I’d have come away with a slightly incorrect understanding since I had no concept of “Painted vs Real” Renoir but still what a blatant clue, that I was too dumb to pick up on at the time 😭 ||

[pallid gull]

p5 ||https://www.tiktok.com/@handsvermillion/video/7501080497993321758 ||

no longer processing anything, just slow mo thrist edits

[pallid gull]

||have you read journal 60?||

[languid gyro]

I have fully 100%'d the game, which includes all journals, yes!

Speaking of which ||did you ever find the Julie-related journal you were asking about yesterday?||

[pallid gull]

i have not, i kinda just... did not open the game and instead listened to songs that i related to the characters and dissociated LMAO

maybe tomorrow

[languid gyro]

That's fair lol

[pallid gull]

actually, i might boot up the game and try and find it now

||why the hell is verso alone in my party again 😭 ||

[languid gyro]

I'll drop a hint (relatively vague, not an exact location) if you want it, but spoilered in case you don't ||the location of the journal requires flight|| + (slightly more specific but still vague hint) ||it is in the overworld, not a distinct location||

[languid gyro]

a metaphor...........

[pallid gull]

oh yes! i looked it up 🙂‍↕️ thank you!!

[languid gyro]

||that location also has two journals, so make sure you don't miss the second before flying off||

[hasty halo]

I ended up uninstalling Ex33 for now. Head's not in the right space to finish it at the moment

[pallid gull]

that's very fair!

[pallid gull]

||thinking about how he betrayed and lied to both the first group and the last group he's ever been with... verso my beloved you will start the worst wars on the internet||

||and im gonna be out there on the front lines embarrassing myself and defending him i just know it||

||very unfortunate canon event for me||

[languid gyro]

[includes BG3 spoilers] [but also end of E33 spoilers] ||it's gonna be this but years of "Expedition 33 discourse" from now on 🥲 ||

[pallid gull]

LITERALLY

[languid gyro]

||braver than any US Marine 🫡 ||

[pallid gull]

kjhsfdkjfhsdkjf yes

||me when i try to find thirst edits and people are like "i hate this man for what he's done" and i'm like damn how do i always end up here||

[languid gyro]

||the way it's getting tough watching streamers go through the game now that so many people have finished their own playthroughs because somehow the comments always turn into a warzone||

||speaking of...you have my condolences for the trenches you're gonna be in for the next few weeks till she finishes 🫡 ||

[keen thunder]

HAH THIS IS SO TRUE

[pallid gull]

||i am actually so scared of how chat will be whenever that day comes because people get really passionate about these things cause they feel very personal. and honestly not gonna lie, it's not like i don't get it💀 because i'm more than willing to have civil conversations surrounding the selfishness of both decisions and the implications of them, but i would not deny that i am more emotionally invested than i should and feel very strongly for verso's journey lmao. BUT the problem is that people have a pre-established bias with these endings because they've had the time to process and digest what the "better" choice was for them, so playing this on stream must be... an experience. people pulling at you from all sides probably. i saw a short of a streamer doing the verso ending (which was the one she went for) and people were fighting in the comments like everyone relax and try the chicken idk what to tell you||

[languid gyro]

||The very notion of an objectively "better" ending goes against the point, I feel 💀 I certainly have a preferred ending, but I fully understand that it is a subjectively better ending and understand its flaws, as well as the merits of the other. The problem is that nuance can be difficult, and people are very quick to turn to tribalism, especially with such high emotional stakes. Part of why the endings are so powerful is because the game does such a good job of connecting you to its world and characters, as well as connecting with various parts of each of our personal experiences and traumas. But because there's so much emotion and so much personal investment behind many people's decisions, it can feel like a personal indictment of them, an attack on their moral values, or a diminishing of their personal traumas, to have "their" ending criticized or "the other" ending praised. The very existence of this discourse is a testament to the writing's strength and the value of art, as well as a window into the diversity of people and their lived experiences. I just wish more people could see it that way.||

||Anyways #TeamVerso and if you disagree you're a bad person||

[pallid gull]

and you never miss, as usual

||honestly i'm just both heartbroken and fascinated by the fact that the endings of the game just mirror their generational trauma. they're just like the their parents and the game drives that home to the point where it's so on the nose (like giving verso renoir's outfit). plus, the fact that no matter what you do, there is a selfishness factor that you will not escape from. they are both very flawed and shaped by their family's grief and i wanna eat them both because it's very sad||

[hoary nacelle]

|| i picked maelle's ending but i am still #teamverso because her ending was scary 😭 ||

[languid gyro]

||Thinking once again about that previous QotW about media that impacted us and the way it made me realize that all my favorite fictional media has generational trauma as a central theme in large part because of my own lived experiences 🥲 ||

||Heart goes out to all the therapists out there learning about Expedition 33 in the coming months||

[hoary nacelle]

|| i was like "i choose maelle i love you maelle!!" and then i watched the ending and saw the cut to her painted face with the loud piano noise and i was like GET ME OUT OF HERE 😭 ||

|| still love her tho but... 🥲 ||

[pallid gull]

||i think what got me the most about maelle's ending is that it really got me thinking (as i often think about in my mentally ill time lmao) about what is life without death||

||and this is not to shame anyone for choosing maelle's ending because there are a lot of reasons to pick it, one of it is being that innocents being that did not choose to be at the mercy of the dessendre family will suffer and all their effort would've been for nothing. but it felt... like watching her play dollhouse. i caught this later but during act 2 or 3 she mentions that she wants verso to play on his piano and that she will make sure she will get him a huge crowd for when the time comes and it hit me that she is, indeed, playing dolls. this is the perfect place to be, everyone she loves is alive, they are all getting to watch her big brother grow old and live his passion and it hurts because even if it's a fantasy, it feels good to see it all, to live it, so i don't blame her||

[hoary nacelle]

Me when I've been humming songs from the ost for the past few days aloud like non stop while I do things I can't stopppp nsjdkslla

[pallid gull]

the music saur good 😭

[hoary nacelle]

Truly😭

[languid gyro]

||"Playing dolls" is very much the vibe I felt when watching the ending. Even seeing Gustave and Sophie again I should have felt joy, but I found it difficult to because the whole atmosphere felt so...controlled. It was too perfect.|| [spoilers for P5R] ||extremely similar vibes to the Maruki bad end||

[pallid gull]

heeelp i gotta play p5r

[hoary nacelle]

Aur naur I acnt click that

Im also going to play that game at some point !!

[languid gyro]

||And yet, if I personally were Maelle, and not some omniscient person playing a videogame, I would absolutely be drawn to the allure of living out the rest of my life in a self-made paradise, especially in contrast to what I would have to face "out there" in reality.||

[pallid gull]

||as if my mentally ill ass hasn't spent most of my life maladaptive daydreaming lmaooo girl i get you||

[pallid gull]

||seeing sophie really hit, same with pierre because in my head their deaths felt "right" (as wrong as that sounds) as in... pierre's was by natural causes, sophie's was what got us so emotionally invested, seeing them miraculously come back really made me question what death means in that world anymore. i also noticed that none of them were aging, like at all, they all seemed to look the exact same, except for verso, which makes me wonder if he was "allowed" to age so he can eventually die and everyone else is just kept stagnant like that||

[languid gyro]

||I think the real tragedy is that, no matter which ending you pick, ultimately the residents of the Canvas have no real agency and are subject to the whims of the Dessendre family. The Verso ending is self-explanatory; they're wiped out. But in the Maelle ending, depending on how you interpret it, the residents still exist only by her whim (and that's even before getting to the bleaker interpretations on just how far the "dollhouse" metaphor goes, including the questions of just how much free will and/or consciousness the revived residents actually have). And in the long term, realistically at some future point if she stays in there for too long, Renoir will once again enter to intervene, causing another Fracture and this time likely fully erasing everything.||

[green escarp]

||I hope Lune's cold piercing stare of anger and unfathomable betrayal haunts your dreams you monster||
||#TeamMaelle||

[languid gyro]

||...okay but what if I'm into it||

[green escarp]

I have several questions

[languid gyro]

||But yes, it absolutely does haunt me. I stand by my choice, but I am filled with grief for her and for the Canvas as a whole. It was a difficult and painful decision.||

[pallid gull]

||i feel like what you said fits so well with what i've said above too because ultimately if they get wiped out or if they don't age at all, both seem cruel... sure... the latter seems better, that's until you reach an immortal verso stage where you start begging to be unpainted lmao||

[keen thunder]

||yea i think the storytellers intended that. When you see everyone who has died come back thats where you can feel the vibe starts to feel off and it doesn't feel real, because to us life and death dont work that way. It feels like a deconstruction of happy endings. I chose the Maelle ending foremost for the living beings in the canvas (whether the existence of the Lumiere people at that point are entirely the same is a whole other debate), and on the side it would supposedly make Maelle the happiest, but I *interpret that even she is suffering in this route which you can see with her pained smiles through out that ending. She's now aware of her godly position so her relationship to everyone wouldn't be the same (whether good or bad), and I'm pretty sure the reality of her life outside the canvas would always be in the back of her mind. She's aware this isn't what Verso wants despite her wishes but is keeping him alive suffering as a prisoner anyway (as far as we know from the rest of the lore, none of the painters have full control on their creations and Verso still has his free will since he hesitated to play). ||

|| Preface: I think the writers intend both endings to be about even with no correct ending despite how its executed. Though I can see why people say Verso's is the "objective ending" because it is more transparent about the negative consequences of the choice and satisfies the questions and themes that the last act focuses on and ends on a bittersweet yet hopeful note (the image of the canvas people waving goodbye feels sad but positive feel overall) and the theme of moving forward and moving on is a productive point to leave on. The Maelle ending is framed to be disturbing and is a bit more open to what additional negative consequences could be. The feeling of stagnation is what it ends on. I completely understand Team Verso, when I instictively was gonna pick his ending at first to fulfill closure and resolution of the conflict that the story primarily focuses on, but still deciding with Maelle in the end, I cope with it by thinking that route is "to be continued" with a possible "we got another god to kill" route, as heartless as that is to Maelle. That's probably me coping and paying any price for the slim chance that those people, the gestrals and all beings in the canvas can survive. That's very similar to the themes that act 1 champions, heck you could argue I "fell" for the writers selling that to me in Act 1.||

|| Verso's ending: Tomorrow comes...for those who come after for Maelle and her family.||
||Maelle's ending: Tomorrow comes...for those who come after for the people of the canvas until the canvas faces Renoir and/or Aline coming back in for another fracture for an indeterminate amount of canvas years or its inevitable version of the heat death of the universe.||

|| It's humbling to know that even the devs at the studio dont have a consensus on which ending is "right". Despite some nitpicky gripes, I love the thought exercises and discussions from the endings and story||

[pallid gull]

for sure

||both endings offer so much food for thought and can open such interesting discussions in regards to death, life and grief and i think there will be conversations for years to come about the conflict the characters felt because yeah, at the end of the day they're metaphors for grief that have been taken to the extreme, so people will continue to feel very strongly. good stuff very good game, will haunt me for the rest of my life perhaps||

[wheat tulip]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBd6Vdk/

[pallid gull]

[wheat tulip]

Why it doesnt work

Embed where

[pallid gull]

cause it's a picture

[wheat tulip]

Oh-

[pallid gull]

yeah, embed doesn't work like that with tiktok if it's a pic

[wheat tulip]

Smh

Anyway

Theres really a town named like that i guess lmao

[pallid gull]

maybe i do ng+ tomorrow

[wheat tulip]

Good luuck

[pallid gull]

wait... things are harder right...

if i wanna replay the story and not worry about combat do i have to just replay the story normally?

[green escarp]

Things are harder yes but you also have everything from your first playthrough. You'll still stomp the average encounter

From what I've seen online it isn't until ng++++ or so where the scaling starts getting really noticible

(Im only in ng++ myself and nothing in act 1 poses a serious threat to me)

[pallid gull]

oh okay cause i just want to do it so i can record things for edits 💀

but i still want to keep my outfits

[green escarp]

You also always have the option set the difficulty down to story

Not that you'd need to. Just saying that's an option lol

[pallid gull]

yeah, i think that's what i'm gonna do

[wheat tulip]

Yeah if you want to record things it would be better in that case!

[wheat tulip]

||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBdsosm/ || p5 edit

[languid gyro]

https://bsky.app/profile/janemere.bsky.social/post/3lqelywv3nk2s

JaneMere (@janemere.bsky.social)

Clair Obscur
#Expedition33

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Bluesky · May 30, 2025, 6:26 AM

[languid gyro]

[endgame optional boss] ||insane how good some people just are at videogames https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBMu9n49_S0||

[green escarp]

Ongbal is just built different. Their whole channel is just that kind of pro skills gaming

Its fun to watch but also damn, it will never be me

[languid gyro]

Ye I remember their Elden Ring content popping up on my dash back when I was playing that

[vivid peak]

What did Lorie get up to in e33

[languid gyro]

Last I tuned in she had just recruited [P6] ||Monoco||

[pallid gull]

||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdB8VsCB/ ||

act 1 and act 2 spoilers

[pallid gull]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdB8Cend/

[wheat tulip]

Also act 2!

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

[pallid gull]

thank u!!

[wheat tulip]

Your welcome !!

[pallid gull]

p5 ||trauma aside, this hairstyle suits him so much||

ending ||i just realized i wiped out the fuckin grandis i didnt even think about that||

[wheat tulip]

[wheat tulip]

So smexy...

[pallid gull]

||and the gestrals... idk why i completely forgot seeing as in my brain i was considering only the expeditioners because that was what we were doing but now im like damn i killed several people huh sdfjsdhs||

[wheat tulip]

||we killed a whole world....||

[pallid gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320524695270981643.webp?size=100&animated=true

indeed

[wheat tulip]

||maybe we are the bad guys after all...||

[pallid gull]

||and i would do it again ☝️ ||

but i was thinking about it

||it's honestly fascinating character development lmao||

[wheat tulip]

||This game is a social experiment...||

Wait is it correct english ? Eh nevermind

[pallid gull]

no, i think it works!

[wheat tulip]

Ouh lets go

Even tho i dont know if i should be happy fkfkfk

[pallid gull]

ending ||im trying to piece it together in my head because for some reason im all over the place, but to my understanding, renoir and verso had the initial plan of destroying the canvas but julie's death (along with the others) convinced verso that the canvas is worth fighting for and they all deserve to exist. cut to verso fighting with renoir and both of them getting the scars, then verso decides on his own to help the expeditioners reach the paintress. the constant loss and feeling of helplessness and immortality get to him and he wants to die, however, his goal stays the same which is to wake up the real alicia so he can get help against renoir. last moments he realizes that he is tired keeping his soul forever painting and seeing aline slowly dying in real time makes him think that the world he made is doing more harm than good so he ends up destroying it||

[wheat tulip]

Yup yup...

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[pallid gull]

||okay, cause i was trying to piece together when he changed his mind (cause it happened several times) but i was almost convinced that he was going to attempt to destroy the world because during the renoir conversation he looked so conflicted, almost like he wasn't even present, just dissociating lmao||

[wheat tulip]

||the way we can see it more and more on his facial expressions....||

||and monoco being silent the whole time in the monolith...||

[pallid gull]

||i'm still stuck on what a good job they've done with lune's reaction. like it's just so in character. a direct contrast to sciel that responded with empathy and understanding... just condemning him for being selfish and sitting on the ground in defiance... what he deserves i fear||

[wheat tulip]

||the characters are so well written i fear they cooked too hard ||

||i feel like one of the dev has the same way to think tho it feels so real||

[pallid gull]

||i'm sure different perspectives on grief has helped them shape the game. it's very hard on topics such as these to not add in some of your personal feelings because we've all experienced it one way or another||

[wheat tulip]

I feel like i just react with 💯 but you are so correct kfkcf

[wheat tulip]

Truly...

[pallid gull]

damn why they make starting ng+ so damn scary 😭

[wheat tulip]

I mean its an important decision kfdkxlx

Are you sure?? Are you really really sure?

No but are you?

[pallid gull]

idk

i have commitment issues

[wheat tulip]

Felt kgkfkfnr

[pallid gull]

huh i disabled subtitles but they show up anyway, i wonder if they just mean for cutscenes rather than convos

prologue ||the way i never noticed sciel is dancing at the beginning||

[wheat tulip]

||It cant be her tho? Why would she had a red flowers necklace😭 ||

||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBLvuP3/ || p1 edit

[pallid gull]

||maybe a reused model? but i swear it looks so much like her lmao||

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-bite-orange-cat-orange-cat-attack-gif-10142361798712867466

[wheat tulip]

Probably yeah

[pallid gull]

oh that's right ||did anyone figure out what the use is for the old key gustave gets?||

[hoary nacelle]

|| i think i know what old key youre talking about tho i dont actually remember how i got it myself lmao. but i do know what it does if youd like me to tell you ||

[pallid gull]

yeah, you can tell me!

[hoary nacelle]

|| you can use it in a place in old lumiere (its like a pipe with an iron gate in it) to open the gate and behind it is one of the journals! ||

[pallid gull]

ohh thank you!

[hoary nacelle]

no prob!

[wheat tulip]

||you need it for the achievement||

[hoary nacelle]

i cant exactly remeber where || the pipe is but im pretty sure its near an expedition flag ||

[pallid gull]

p5 ||https://i.etsystatic.com/53376328/r/il/e7d0a0/6873586747/il_1588xN.6873586747_d8n8.jpg ||

the urge to do it

[hoary nacelle]

not to enable u but u should totally do it (i am probably enabling you)

[pallid gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/780369202003443712.webp?size=100

[wheat tulip]

||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBNNUGC/ || after act 2 spoiler edit

[pallid gull]

[vivid peak]

Played a bit more today, having such a great time

[pallid gull]

it's so fawkin good

[vivid peak]

I’ve done ||two of the three masks on Visages
I assume it affects the axon fight in some way?||

Act 2 ? Not sure how else to spoiler it

[pallid gull]

is that a rhetorical question

[vivid peak]

No im actually wondering ||I mean it’s not like I can go back and unfight them anyway||

[pallid gull]

||yeah, it does make it weaker||

[vivid peak]

I think I’m a little over levelled from exploration lol

I should keep going and come back to explore later

[pallid gull]

chances are if you're like us and do a bunch of things before endgame you will most likely annihilate the last few parts of the game lmao which is unfortunate

because the side content is definitely worth it but endgame does not scale based on your progress

[vivid peak]

I guess you can de-gear sort of

[pallid gull]

yeah, i think amphy just straight up stopped parrying/dodging

[wheat tulip]

||when i think i beat the axon without beating the masks first....||

[pallid gull]

self-nerfing is the way to go

[vivid peak]

Oh

[wheat tulip]

||i missed a lot of loot i was mad and the fight was HARD ||

[vivid peak]

I need to sort out my luminas

[wheat tulip]

Good luck

[vivid peak]

I’ve been rotating to try and reduce the overlevelling and also||to learn Monoco’s skills|| but it’s still a little too much I think

[wheat tulip]

Oh good way to do it

Try to grind some lvl with p6 and it should be good!

[pallid gull]

working on an edit and im looking through my recordings

ending spoilers ||LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO||

[vivid peak]

Act 2 ||omg ||

[hoary nacelle]

i think ive deciede that whenever i start ng+ im gonna play on expert because i hate myself apprentaly

but i want the challenge i think (hopefully i dont eat my own words 😭 )

[pallid gull]

you got this!!

[vivid peak]

||the visages are so creepy|| act 2

[languid gyro]

The last time any enemy or boss even got an opportunity to survive till their turn and attack me, unless I purposefully skipped turns to let them, was somewhere in mid-Act 2 💀 ||before Old Lumiere even||, with the only exception being the few bosses with a forced mid-fight phase change that gives them a single free turn just inserted into the turn order regardless of where they would have been otherwise

I also did absolutely zero extra level grinding other than at the very, very end to get to 99 for the achievement

The game just…does not even remotely scale with side exploration 🥲

Difficulty is mostly designed around players who just beeline the main story, which I think is a shame, but I can understand devs not wanting to force players to engage in optional side content if they don’t want to and still be able to have a reasonable time

[pallid gull]

i think my biggest regret was ending ||that for some reason it didn't cross my mind that maelle would have extra lines and cutscenes during the fight and i just killed her in 3 turns and then i saw there's so many iconic lines that they throw at each other 💀 idk why i didn't consider it||

[languid gyro]

||My biggest regret was not taking Cheater off my party before going into the ending because I had twice as much turn-skipping to do in order to see those lines 💀 ||

||That + my massive speed advantage…. I was out here skipping literally 12 of my turns for each of Renoir’s just to see his animations and dialogue 💀 💀 💀 ||

[pallid gull]

i had that too

[languid gyro]

||Also had to panic quit the game and reload the save first time I went against Maelle at the end too, because I was like “maybe she has dialogue at specific health thresholds too, like half or 1/4, so I’ll weaken her slightly” and just completely obliterated her with my first free aim shot 😭 ||

[pallid gull]

plssss

[languid gyro]

||A detail I appreciated about this little scene too is that she intentionally sits right outside the portal instead of jumping in like the others. Maelle talked about how dangerous it was for Verso to be there, initially, and Sciel disintegrated pretty quickly, so painted life doesn’t survive in the in-between space for long. Hence, Lune sitting right outside is her last stand, staying and dying with the world until the last possible moment, when the world itself collapses 🫡 ||

[pallid gull]

||IT'S SO GOOOOD it's so good||

[languid gyro]

||And yeah I really do think he was conflicted right up until the end, but firmed his resolution when Aline jumped back in (the panic in his eyes when he sees her….), when Renoir shows her dying on the outside, and when Maelle lies to Renoir and he realizes she isn’t going to keep her promise.||

[vivid peak]

Act two ||wdym the way sciel got her gradient unlock was bumping uglies with verso||

[languid gyro]

||Because up until then there was at least a sliver of hope that Aline and Alicia would be able to get out of the cycle, and I think he resolved himself to remaining tormented in this world for their sake (my poor boy…), but it was when he saw that they were both likely going to stay no matter what that he resolved to take the initiative to remove their opportunity to himself (and that was before he jumped in and saw child Verso’s soul, which had to have been the last nail in the coffin)||

[languid gyro]

She was “inspired”

[pallid gull]

need him to inspire me too

[languid gyro]

But also, ||you just need to rank up, you don’t need to pick any of the romantic or sexual dialogue options for it||

[vivid peak]

Oh

Lmao

I mean might as well have fun doing it

[languid gyro]

||I personally rejected all of Sciel’s advances because I was (initially) on the “no romance period” train, and broke at the end and went Lune||

[pallid gull]

||yeah, yeah that's what i think so as well, i think a lot just accumulated too, like seeing alicia and clea. he just wanted to be with them at that point||

[pallid gull]

ending spoilers ||same, the edit im working on right now is actually verso/lune from lune's perspective as a little bit of a character study. it's funny because i am so critical of the way this game treated romance but i'm also like "idk the pain is tasty lemme analyze this"||

[vivid peak]

||Esquie dancing is everything I never knew I needed
But also where did the piano come from||

[languid gyro]

||The same place they summon their weapons from; they can pull stuff out of the chroma, to a limited extent||

[vivid peak]

I should maybe stop for now and eat some dinner… at midnight

[pallid gull]

yes pls jonjon eat

[vivid peak]

||Well ok even still
A sword is one thing but a whole grand piano Mary Poppins would be impressed||

[languid gyro]

||Mary Poppins would kill it here tbh, imagining her whacking nevrons with a big magical umbrella||

(extreme tangent) I think there are quite a lot of narrative flaws with RWBY, and this is not meant to serve as a recommendation, but one thing I think about a lot from there is a character who fights primarily with an umbrella/parasol and all the cool choreography they were able to do with that and make it work

https://tenor.com/view/neo-rwby-umbrella-rainy-days-smile-gif-14602782

Neo, you diva 🩷

Really love all the weapons and fighting styles we have in this game though; so much of it is fairly rare and the animations are all so fluid and well done

[vivid peak]

I keep forgetting the characters don’t know what we know because ||how are you going to land in a place called sirène and not expect to be manipulated ||

[languid gyro]

||Sirene is such a beautiful area 💚 one of my top favorites from this game I think||

[wheat tulip]

||Love the osts there ||

[pallid gull]

edit done 🫡 no embed bc gdrive hates me but if anyone wants a peek here it is, ending spoilers ||https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QZaa5mGwYC-oS0a_rhBa5GzNer2JQCr8/view?usp=sharing ||

honestly this game should be studied purely because it's the first time in ages i've done a media edit of any kind, i forgot how to do it lmao

[hoary nacelle]

you ate with this !!! || what if i cried 😭 ||

[pallid gull]

||thank u!! i was hit with the julie parallels later because i was like damn he lied to both and they both died hating him lmao||

[vivid peak]

Can’t wait to be able to watch it

[wheat tulip]

AIDEN IT WAS SO COOL I WANT TO DIE

[pallid gull]

LMAO thank you!! im sorry!!

[wheat tulip]

DONT BE I LOVED IT

[hoary nacelle]

we are in shambles but we loved it

[pallid gull]

||i went back and rewatched some things and realized she took the longest to trust him and he promised her he will save everyone and just when she started trusting him again he did that 💀 it's such a good tragedy even tho it does chew my heart and spit it out. cause at the end of the day, changing his mind doesn't mean he changed his ways. he still remained the same man that puts his family above everything else||

||and she has the right to hate him forever||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320524695270981643.webp?size=100&animated=true

this game doing something evil to my brain

[green escarp]

Got busy in here while I was sleeping

[green escarp]

Me, 100% knowing this would happen with Aiden ||because he fell in love with Lune and then Verso and knowing how this would affect him after beating the game||

https://tenor.com/view/foreseen-everything-talking-gif-14656216

Good edit btw

[languid gyro]

🥲

[pallid gull]

||hard out here having them both as fav characters ||

[languid gyro]

going back and watching some of the behind-the-scenes stuff that they released quite early but that I entirely avoided bc spoilers (this video is safe if you have recruited all playable characters) and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxKnW9PuS-M

absolutely losing it at the directors teaching the non-French VAs how to French swear 😭

(also why are they all so pretty help)

[wheat tulip]

Its nawt french game if there isnt french swear!!

[pallid gull]

jennifer english having an entire essay and ben starr like 🧍‍♂️

[languid gyro]

Ben Starr in the booth with a gun to his head 🔫

[pallid gull]

rich keeble's voice... lord

i love the motion capture bits cause it's so underrated

i feel like motion capture actors are often overlooked 😭

[languid gyro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urizETxs3_8

the way I started crying watching this

just seeing the passion and love bursting out as they talk about their experience and their process

[keen thunder]

Endgame ||you can see his hesitance when Alicia/Maelle finds him after the gommage. (That scene between them is great with a lot of subtext to unpack). Though she says “you’re not Verso, you’re you” it’s opposite of her body language. Verso gets up and keeps his back turned just as she leans on his shoulder. “None of this would’ve happened and…” > Verso:“I wouldn’t exist” > “…wouldn’t get caught in the middle”. <<< big foreshadowing for the divide in the endings. It’s fascinating how they dip into forgetting to distinguish painted Verso as a separate person, even he slips into that trap now and again. In later scenes when Alicia/Maelle treats him completely as her Verso on top of Aline coming back and the OG Verso soul, his decision becomes certain. ||

|| There’s a scene shortly before Renoir where it looked like Verso was gommaging but Maelle touches his shoulder and it stops. It happens a second time when he goes through the portal in the ending ||

[languid gyro]

||And all of the above juxtaposed with Maelle's interactions with Painted Alicia at the top of The Reacher...||

[pallid gull]

||yes, the difference in body language when it comes to maelle is such a good point. it's almost as if as soon as she changed into alicia, her perspective on verso also changed, but she didn't want to make him feel like he's trapped (and i don't think it was on purpose, i think she truly believed she's not doing this just for pretend's sake to cope for a while)||

i know that was not the main point but my brain latched onto that because i rewatched it recently kjsdhfkjds

it's so good

[pallid gull]

ohh that's true, i completely forgot about this

[keen thunder]

||yea that’s what’s painful, she doesn’t mean to harm him, but it just reinforces his doomed existence hes in ||

[languid gyro]

||This was for sure something I noticed immediately: the way Maelle's body language and expressions are noticeably subtly different after she regains her memories as Alicia. You could absolutely feel the shift in her persona. Just solid work, again, from all the people involved (Jennifer's acting, the mocap acting, the writing, the directing, etc.)||

[keen thunder]

^ all pretty phenomenal work from the team. I wanna watch more BTS on the mocap

[pallid gull]

yess same

[keen thunder]

||I feel pretty conflicted here but I think just both characters are flawed and hypocritical, but created their own consequences in this case like Verso’s mention “we’re all just hypocrites”. It makes sense original Alicia would empathize with painted Alicia best and with what her wishes are. And I felt bad for Verso when she gommaged her in front of him… then I thought about it… the group just killed painted Renoir > during the letter scene you can see painted Alicia where Renoir died. She wanted her family to exist (which clashes with what Verso wants). Seeing as he never gave the letter to Maelle, she didnt bother with saying goodbye to him and decided to “go with her family”. Verso understandably is upset (and it’s messed up Maelle doesn’t do the same for Verso later), even though he’s a hypocrite too and said its different for her to be gommaged there even though it’s what would’ve happened with what Verso was intending to do. And I think it’s different for him because, he has to live with it (for the time being). Pile on to his suffering 🙃 ||

||my take is he couldnt face that inner turmoil and he continues to not face it much like how the family have trouble confronting their grief in a productive way. The only solution is release. There’s hints through out the game for this ||

[languid gyro]

||"Both characters are flawed and hypocritical" kinda sums up most of the conflict in general, including the ending, tbh. And is a large part of why the endings are flawed (in-narrative, not writing quality) the way they are. Anyone who picked a side thinking/saying "MY character is perfect and correct and so is their ending" has, I think, missed a lot of subtleties in the writing and demonstrates a lack of empathy for the other.||

||I'd even go as far as to say that the flaws are a huge part of what makes their characters so compelling to me. I don't want them to be perfect.||

[keen thunder]

||yea that’s why even if I feel conflicted about some story execution I keep finding nuggets of brilliant writing the more I think about it and rewatching cutscenes. Great art doesn’t have to be perfect and can be messy, if it leaves a lasting impression in some way however you interpret it then I think the artists have succeeded. And it doesn’t have to for everybody ||

[pallid gull]

||i don't even think there's such a possibility when it comes to them, i think that while the game is very much about grief, it's also about generational trauma and how you can perpetuate a cycle||

[keen thunder]

https://x.com/alionabaranova1/status/1928882115258573263?s=46&t=XU3DAIlgyZWZMioSr_g0uw

Aliona Baranova (@alionabaranova1)

i got a photo with maelle & gustave!!!

X · May 31, 2025, 6:31 PM

[languid gyro]

As a result of discussing builds with some people, and helping them with theirs, I realized some redundancies in mine, or ways to be more efficient, and so I went into the game and did some rearranging

...and now Maelle has a full build and also over 100 unspent lumina points that she no longer needs 💀

so I'm just like damn....what did I spend all that for...

I still have like 200 entirely unspent colours of lumina just chilling in the bank so it doesn't actually matter I'm just being dramatic

[languid gyro]

At times like these I wish lumina points weren't individual and were instead pooled somehow (like instead of my 3 characters each having 200 lumina points, there was just like...a party pool of 600 that they shared)

Would help me quite a bit with my decision paralysis / hoarding also

[languid gyro]

[postgame optional boss] ||wait the name of the Simon Phase 2 song is We Lost ?? isn't that one of the initial names for E33? What a cool little detail||

[green escarp]

||And as music goes it is also, pardon my french, fucking incredible||

[languid gyro]

🫡

[wheat tulip]

We know the initials named of it?

[hoary nacelle]

|| I would always fail to dodge/parry the first attack he does in his 2nd phase and then I'd just accept my fate😭 ||

[pallid gull]

this game did smth to my brain bc why am i opening up the editing program again

[wheat tulip]

Is it a good or bad thing?😭

[pallid gull]

bad emotionally, good that i'm editing out of passion i guess LMAO

[wheat tulip]

Dovbeogieg

[pallid gull]

ending spoilers ||the way i'm watching someone do the ending and people are brawling in chat im so fuckin dead ssdkjhfsd||

||also i just realized verso was 26 when he died, idk why that fucks me up real bad||

[wheat tulip]

||arent you the same age ifkfkf?||

[pallid gull]

i am 😭

[wheat tulip]

😭

[pallid gull]

ending spoilers ||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBkDwtj/ ||

[vivid peak]

Act two ||fought the sirene and killed myself lmao
Then learnt the anti charm lumina and it was so easy||

||This is my fave area so far
Also the illusions of their loved ones was ughh ||

[pallid gull]

||this game is so evil||

[vivid peak]

||sciel’s baby omg that was cruel||

[wheat tulip]

LMAO

[vivid peak]

||The way this game shows how different people experience loss and manage grief is so real… like the range ||

[languid gyro]

||just saying, pretty sure Verso was looking into the camera, at me, when Sirene was showing everyone their loved ones 😍 ||

||but yes absolutely Sirene is one of my favorite areas; it's so gorgeous||

[vivid peak]

Please LMAO

||oh I see where the whee and whooo come from now ||

[languid gyro]

||peak dialogue||

[vivid peak]

Whoever wrote this

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-clap-applause-standing-ovation-gif-15648815

[languid gyro]

||though since it's French, maybe it should be feeling "ouiiiiiiiiiiii"||

[vivid peak]

I must also give credit to the delivery of said lines

Brought a tear to my eye

[languid gyro]

||Me every time Verso says something depressing or existential (it's most of his dialogue) 🥲 let my boy feel "wheeeeeeeee" 😭 ||

[wheat tulip]

Which is interesting since the french one isnt that far lmao ||its weeeee and boooo||

[vivid peak]

Act two ||un vie à rêver…?||

[wheat tulip]

Wait where are you rn😭

[vivid peak]

||just got the barrier breaker to go to the monolith but then I went and did some side stuff ||

||I think I’ll stop here today||

[wheat tulip]

https://youtu.be/HqnfzBPfrbM?si=jlkOiCf5mTN73d6k omgg savun did his review of the game i love him lmao

Theres en subtitles !

Spoiler until the end of act 2!

[languid gyro]

I have not played FFX myself, but here's the E33 singer, Alice Duport-Percier, on an FFX cover 👀

[green escarp]

@fringe walrus @pallid gull

[wheat tulip]

Oh wow

[hoary nacelle]

100%

[fringe walrus]

Beautiful

[fringe walrus]

GAMERRRRRR, Congrats!!!!!

[green escarp]

I love how many of us went "yes, this is a game that deserves 100%/plat trophy"

Even Rain did it and he's a self-proclaimed scrub lol

[hoary nacelle]

thank u !!!

[wheat tulip]

Congrats !!

[hoary nacelle]

thank uu!!

[wheat tulip]

Wtf is a scrub!!

If you meant i cant play video games then yes!

[wheat tulip]

Honestly it was one of the easiest to get probably but im proud of it

[green escarp]

Scrub is the same as calling someone a Noob

[wheat tulip]

Oh then yes im a noob

[green escarp]

You should be proud!

[wheat tulip]

The only franchise i played during my childhood until highschool was pokemon and i was doing whatever in it

Cool pokemon ? In my team

What strategy?

I cant just destroy everyone with my legendaries pokemon?! Bullshit

[green escarp]

Lmao

[pallid gull]

...

i just finished this game right now...

im gonna go listen to this and throw up in a corner somewhere i think

[wheat tulip]

Omg congrats aiden!!

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-walter-walter-dog-bull-terrier-long-nosed-dog-gif-26541605

thank you

[wheat tulip]

Gifkfdkkd

Be proud of yourself !!

You went through it from what you said

And its pride month!! So proud lal month at least

[green escarp]

Grats on finishing the game that shaped my love of rpgs

Complimentary tissues at the section to your left, with hugs available upon request

[pallid gull]

thank u... i will formulate my thoughts later in games discussion but for now i think im just gonna go cry in bed 😭

i will say though

amphy i think you should play this

[languid gyro]

It’s on my [infinitely growing] list 😭

Which other FFs were your favorites?

[pallid gull]

idk what to even say without hinting at things or spoiling but i was like amphy would get this

[pallid gull]

ff9 is up there for sure

i haven't played them all so i don't have definitive list, but 9 is one i would always recommend

ff15 i know the community is split on so im hesitant, but it's a personal favorite because of nostalgia reasons and other stuff lmao

[languid gyro]

I think the ones highest on my list atm (unranked) are 9, 10, 16, and 7 remake

[pallid gull]

yes, great ones to start with imo!

i think 16 especially is a pretty solid starting point nowadays

[languid gyro]

Oh good bc that’s also the Ben Starr one iirc

[pallid gull]

indeed 🙂‍↕️

[languid gyro]

(Which, tbh, is part of why it’s on the list alskfjakdka)

[pallid gull]

no it's so valid

i always encourage ppl to experience more ben starr greatness

he did a fantastic job in 16, you'll enjoy it

[languid gyro]

In case anyone wanted it (very obviously, full-game spoilers included): here's the full game transcript

which I definitely needed bc the number of times I wanted to check something and would have to just go on youtube and try to find the cutscene and watch it play out to check the dialogue 😭

especially interested in reading through all of the ||spectres dialogue, now that I have full context and understanding||

[pallid gull]

ohhh i need to check this out

[languid gyro]

...I thought about posting screenshots of a few but honestly they kinda all hurt me 💀

[pallid gull]

owie

[languid gyro]

like...

wait this site even has translated song lyrics

[languid gyro]

honestly aiden can I just ask you to pin this lol

[pallid gull]

ending ||the last one fucking me up because all he wanted was to play music and then he died and what little remained of him was forced to stick around just to power up the minecraft world||

https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/63e4728a7b3e63779e666353/2x.webp

[wheat tulip]

Giekkfkgk im sorry its super serious but it sounds like you are saying oh oui which is oh yess

[pallid gull]

that also works

[wheat tulip]

In that sense its kinda... sensual?

Nawt the eyes lmao

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/barbie-diy-omg-oh-no-shocked-barbie-gif-13856210

end of act 1 ||watching someone else go thru it... always painful ||

||also the way renoir and aline are fighting immediately after... making their divorce everyone else's problem and killing a man 😭 ||

[languid gyro]

||Verso: 🧍‍♂️ in the back||

[wheat tulip]

||the first time i rewatched this scene i was like PLEASE STOP||

[pallid gull]

endgame ||verso literally watching it when he coulde've intervened like y'all are MESSYYYY||

[wheat tulip]

||wanted to add get a room but they got a whole tableau involved already💀||

[languid gyro]

||Honestly, Clea wanting nothing to do with it and just being like "if they want to be immature, let them; I have other problems to worry about", kinda real queen...||

[wheat tulip]

||shes so real for that lmao i would also be over it too||

[pallid gull]

typing an entire essay and then p5 ||getting distracted and forgetting my thoughts entirely because verso's theme started playing during his intro for this streamer and it worked like a gay alarm that wiped my memory||

[hoary nacelle]

|| these hit so hard after finishing the game 😭 ||

[pallid gull]

blossom i was like who is this 😭

[hoary nacelle]

LMAOO

theres new lore dw about it

it was a silly little moment in the fantasy life channel earlier it was quite funny lol

[pallid gull]

but as i was saying, with some of my thoughts missing cause i forgot lmao, optional areas, late endgame story ||i feel like endless tower and flying manor are so important for understanding her character bc flying manor paints her as a monster but endless tower paints her as someone that is heavily burdened by their parents' conflict and she just wants her little sister to enjoy life. the simplicity at the end of endless tower really got me, just the exchange being like "did you have fun?" "yes" "good"... clea really wanted her to know that that's all that matters because she knows that they all forgot what that's like||

[languid gyro]

||I should honestly just keep this screenshot on hand, for like half the things you say||

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

biggest compliment but also a gay attack in fairness

[languid gyro]

happy pride! 🏳️‍🌈

[hoary nacelle]

love that gif so much lmao

[wheat tulip]

Wait who are you

[hoary nacelle]

ITS ME BLOSSOM LOL

[languid gyro]

||Lae'zel 🤝 Clea both being Devora Wilde voiced characters that have an initial negative reaction within the fandom but have so much depth and hidden kindness (that they themselves have hidden away because of their trauma and/or upbringing) that I will go to war for actually||

[hoary nacelle]

this name change has backfired severely help

[wheat tulip]

WHAT IS GOING AWN WHY EVERYONE CHANGING THEIR NAMZ SUDDENLY

[hoary nacelle]

it was a thing that happened in the fantasy life channel sdjfhldskjfdsfdrsg

[wheat tulip]

Mindblown!!

Because i think theres another bloppy here so im like huuh

[hoary nacelle]

oh really?? i had no clue lmaooo

but yes it is still me, i have not been replaced as far as im aware /j

[wheat tulip]

The aliens are among us i guess

[pallid gull]

ending ||i think what's been super interesting to me is witnessing how people are reacting to verso's intro in act 2. for some reason, it didn't even cross my mind that he will automatically be blamed or seen as a replacement? or downright provoke anger, and i don't even blame people, because grief is just that powerful that it evokes such strong emotions. i was the opposite where i was instantly comforted by his presence because i was feeling so much pain 💀 i wonder if that's also what contributed to my strong feelings towards the ending and him. now i have more thoughts to process about this lmao||

[languid gyro]

||Yeah, seeing how differently people react to Verso at his intro and throughout has been so interesting. I think the one common thread for me is that, even though there were times when I was like "there's so much we don't know about him", the #1 primary impression for me, right from the beginning and always after was "but I trust that his kindness is real". Even when there were points later down the line, like when he abandoned Maelle at Old Lumiere, when I had my doubts of "oh he has his own separate agenda and I wonder what it is", or even "...is he going to betray us...?" I still held onto "if the writing goes down a direction where he does, I still trust in that kindness to be true, and I can only imagine how much the decision weighs on him".||

||Some of it too, I think, has to do with individuals' personal reactions to dishonesty/being lied to. A LOT of streamers I've seen, when it's implied that Verso is hiding secrets, default immediately to "he's not opening up = I don't trust him = I don't like him", which isn't to say I don't understand that kind of mindset/reaction, but it was just so different from my own (and says a lot about how I interact with people in real life as well, I think). I'm constantly trying to search for "what is his perspective? what are the stakes for him? what am I not seeing that may affect my perception?"||

||I've worked hard to adjust my mindset over the years (though part of it is just innate, I think) to be one where, if I don't understand why someone is doing something, to not react instinctively with fear or distrust, as is common, but to try to ask "why?", to try to better understand them||

[pallid gull]

i regret to inform you've got that social worker mindset 😭 a blessing and a curse

but honestly i think it's partially because being a teacher also overlaps a lot with that

[languid gyro]

||(Also this is a very core theme of Umineko: "Without love it cannot be seen", essentially translating to "you will never truly understand the "truth" of another without being able to view them with love", or "view others around you with love, compassion, and empathy; try to understand them; if you cannot, you will only ever see a "truth" distorted by your fears and biases" (Umineko is also, coincidentally, probably the last time I saw a family that collectively needed therapy this badly; though to be honest the Ushiromiyas are probably even worse off than the Dessendres)||

sorry, just fresh on my mind lately, both because of that previous qotw and also because I've been in the midst of a full reread the past few months

[pallid gull]

i wanna play umineko so bad one day

[languid gyro]

Absolutely; I don't think I could be an effective teacher if I did not strive, every day, to better understand many individuals who think differently than I do, and to teach them (or try) to do the same

[hoary nacelle]

loving the essays u guys's brains are so beeg

[pallid gull]

||i am the same, i think i was way quicker to judgement when i was younger but now i've grown to see people very differently the more exposed i got to struggle and whenever judgement or frustration slipped in into what i was doing i felt almost immediate guilt. which, to be fair, sometimes unhealthy. i'm of the opinion that negative emotions need to processed still and Too much empathy and understanding can lead to being treated terribly so i'm trying to find a balance... but while i joke a lot about "not being able to see red flags", what i actually mean is, i hold so much empathy for this character because of all the pain they've been through, that i can easily get over the things they've done (within limits)||

[languid gyro]

||Same! It is also much easier within fiction, of course, both because a) you obviously want real people to be as healthy as possible but there is a truth in that flawed characters are often exceptionally narratively compelling, but also b) easier to give grace when they're not truly able to hurt you in the same way a real person might (now...granted...I do also still need to learn how to be better about boundaries/trust with real people too, but....another conversation...)||

[pallid gull]

the last part 😭 felt

[vivid peak]

I have fomo

[languid gyro]

||I also think that teaching has, in fact, helped me with this to some extent. Part of why I'm able to see characters like Lae'zel or Astarion in BG3 or Verso or Clea in E33 and not immediately jump to "oh they were mean/dishonest to me; I don't like them" (unfortunately a very common snap judgment I have seen for all of the above, and more) is that I have seen this numerous times within children, who come into my classroom with some form of defense mechanism up as a result of past experiences (which, you can imagine also how I feel about seeing it already in young children...) that it quickly becomes intuitive that it's not a case of "oh they're a wretched kid" but "oh, something in their life has made them begin to instinctively act this way; I want to find out more about them, and if I can help them in any way" (plus I have the advantage of being their teacher, which means I get to meet their parents in conferences, which very often immediately informs me why this child is the way they are, for better or worse)||

the way I lost my train of thought completely, just mid-typing 😭 ADHD moment

but I've probably said too much already lol

and also I should go eat dinner

[pallid gull]

no how dare u

wait no to the other not to the last one

yes go eat dinner LMAO

[languid gyro]

LOL you're fine I understood

[pallid gull]

but you should always talk as much as you want, i feel less alone in my yapping bc i always got so much to say

[hoary nacelle]

U should both yap as much as yall want !! We all love all the yaps

[languid gyro]

Thought about typing this in #pics-and-videos but decided even with spoiler tags it was too risky, but anyways [ending spoilers] ||this is just like picking between Maelle’s and Verso’s endings 😔 ||

[wheat tulip]

HELP

[pallid gull]

okay but ending ||the way each time i catch up on people's vods now so many chats end up like||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1114574435144450059.webp?size=100&animated=true

it's taking me tf out

[languid gyro]

no you’re so right though

[summer yarrow]

Wait if I click on new game+

Do I still keep my current character builds?

[pallid gull]

i think so? you should be able to keep everything except key items

p5 ||https://www.tumblr.com/rezoeline/785161656447713280?source=share ||

[green escarp]

Yep!

[summer yarrow]

Ok

Thanks

[wheat tulip]

Mon miaou miaou

[pallid gull]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBPYMmy/

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

[hoary nacelle]

sttoppppp this art is so pretty i want to eat this person's art style

[pallid gull]

endgame ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kMbTzomh94 ||

in this kind of mood today

[hoary nacelle]

so real

[pallid gull]

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4a/58/ce/4a58cedd69699fd9a8d560a8f823accc.jpg

[hoary nacelle]

|| i think its probably my favourite song in the ost, or at least one of my top favs ||

[pallid gull]

was looking for a song but p5 is this my alt acc

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

[wheat tulip]

This one ,||aline, robe de jour and une vie à peindre , all bangers||

[pallid gull]

p5 ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOdJyVmfvXY ||

i wouldn't necessarily call this a banger but the feelings it evokes in my heart whenever i hear the first key should be studied

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/4a/58/ce/4a58cedd69699fd9a8d560a8f823accc.jpg

me when i cant stop talking about a specific character

[wheat tulip]

This one just wants to kill me

[pallid gull]

ending spoilers

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

||maybe people throwing hands about the endings are valid actually||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320524695270981643.webp?size=100&animated=true

the two smoking reactions one after the other 😭 didn't even realize

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

[hoary nacelle]

|| omg yessss une vie à peindre is so fucking gooooooodddd ||

[pallid gull]

idk how to tag this but i feel atp it's best to not interact with anything im gonna be rambling about unless you've finished the game bc my thoughts will derail me there anyway ||thinking back on how one of his answers to sciel that leads to romance is "i feel used. i like it" and sure, i don't really consider the romance writing quality to be on par with the overall writing but there's something to be said how the way he forms romantic connection is whether by promising things and never being able to stick to them or letting himself be used because that's what he's comfortable with the most. and before anyone thinks im dragging sciel, i am nawt, they obviously care a lot about each other, but it's more so the fact that any relationship he has (even non-romantic) will always be affected by the trauma that he isn't allowed to heal from||

the way i can't stop yapping about this game, i need to be freed

[hoary nacelle]

|| stop because i didnt realise when i was playing that that would lead to what it did i was just like "hehe dark humour me like" so i picked it and then they did the deed and i was like "wait a minute what? ok sure lol" ||

[pallid gull]

||see thats why i can't take it seriously because im out here crafting character analysis but realistically i think the devs just wanted them to fuck 😭 😭 ||

[hoary nacelle]

|| yeah maybe 😭 i do totally see what you mean tho and i agree and that basically all of his actions and how he approaches romance, friendships etc. are all shaped by the trauma he isnt able to heal from but the devs also probably just wanted them to fuck like u said ehfkjeferfg ||
||i personally didnt get much out of the actual romance of it (as i am a gay man so i was like "oh theyre fucking ok cool!!!" but i did like the lore that you were told around the romance bits if that makes sense?? ||

|| i dont actually know if it was tied to the romance at all but finding out more about lune's parents and sciel and her husband was really nice (and also broke me ofc😭) ||

[wheat tulip]

||the amount of kink they included oh for sure||

[pallid gull]

ending ||yeah, i agree! i think that if anything, the potential of their dynamics is what was really interesting to me. the game itself seems to imply that regardless of what is going on, there is a connection that he feels towards both (which honestly confused the hell out of me at first because everyone was like "you and sciel omgg 👀" while i knew i rejected most of her advances). and while they might not be necessarily "in love" with him (because i think there was not really place for that for Any of them, there was just too much going on), they still cherished the little time they spent with him. on one hand i am like, yeah, i guess this was not handled that well, but on the other hand, i'm also like... i can't really expect such unhealthy people to approach something like this in a healthy manner, it would be a contradiction in itself||

why did i tag that as ending... idk if i even mentioned the ending

u know what nvm... i'll keep it like that anyway

[hoary nacelle]

at this point we shoudl jsut be like "click at ur own risk" bcuz i dont even know how to spoiler tag these anymore jhsdfkjsdfdg

[languid gyro]

||I do still think that even if the characters were realistically too unhealthy, or in such dire circumstances, that they wouldn't be able to approach things like this in a healthy matter, the actual writing around the scenarios could have been less...clunky? Or they could have sidestepped romance altogether to be perfectly honest. But otherwise I do still generally agree with you, and I do appreciate a lot of the character insights that we did get from other aspects of the camp scenes||

[pallid gull]

||yeah, it felt a bit whiplashy ngl lmao. going from "you and lune are having a heartfelt conversation about her parents and now you're writing a song... the "song" in question is actually y'all fucking" and i was like oh okie...||

[languid gyro]

||is this what it's like to be French||

[pallid gull]

@wheat tulip can you verify.....

[wheat tulip]

Wait reading the messages ifkcg

[pallid gull]

lmaoo it's okay tyt

[wheat tulip]

Yesnt

Its just an allegory all together

[languid gyro]

Not to bring up Metaphor in the E33 thread but ||they were onto something with taking romance out tbh; there are so many games where I would honestly rather it have just been absent entirely||

[languid gyro]

This was not a genuine question 😭 but thank you for the response lmao

[wheat tulip]

But idk how french sex works i never had it 🤷‍♂️

[pallid gull]

idk why "french sex" is taking me out 😭

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

Remind me of paint me like one of your french girl thing english people says

[hoary nacelle]

|| lune: here i wrote a song about u verso " 🎶 do youuuu wannnaaa fuuuucckkkkkkk 🎶 ||
|| verso: 😮 ||

[wheat tulip]

Surprised me coming from her ngl

[hoary nacelle]

same 😭

[wheat tulip]

||the hormones and pheromones i guess lmao||

[hoary nacelle]

heelpppp

[languid gyro]

||it's the after-sex dialogue that completely takes me out too because how do you have a game with such beautiful writing also throw in lines like "which Lune really needed to release some frustration" and "after they did what needed doing..." 💀 to say nothing of "Lune better understands the world and herself! New skill unlocked!" right after just absolutely taking me tf out||

[pallid gull]

ending ||i am huge on romance. so huge. it's why i get super annoying when it's well written and even more annoying when it's not written well lmao, so i agree. i think some media benefits from it though, because relationships are part of characterization. it adds a lot to their individuality to see how they act in different relationship dynamics. it's the little things, i guess, like sciel dying in her last moments and still reaching out to him and lune ignoring the time you've spent together in order to make it known it meant nothing and she hates your guts. however, this could've been very easily conveyed if they also had just stayed as friends... i wonder how i would've felt about it if they hadn't added the implication of sex? i am not opposed to that in video games, but tonally it can make things awkward if misplaced||

[languid gyro]

||I swear to god either the romance scenes had a different writer, or Jennifer just let the AO3 thoughts win for a moment and no one checked her 💀 (still love your work for 99% of the game though)||

[wheat tulip]

||felt like it was added by someone else ngl||

[languid gyro]

||Honestly I just think that if they were gonna give us sex they were cowards for not giving us Lune x Sciel too||

[pallid gull]

||the way i thought it was gonna be sapphic when sciel was like "why did you run from me that day"... my mind was racing with comphet french yuri thoughts...||

[languid gyro]

||this is half a joke; I'd rather it just not be in entirely tbh, but also like if you're gonna do it||

[languid gyro]

||"It meant a lot to me...the comfort we shared that day..." me: 👀 ||

[pallid gull]

right??

[hoary nacelle]

i felt the exact same way !!!

[languid gyro]

||Also honestly would have been organic too because clearly they've known each other for a while and had a relationship of some kind and are rekindling their connection||

[hoary nacelle]

i was like || omg gay!! and then the game was like actually no and was like "oh ok 😭" ||

[languid gyro]

||You know what though, let's count our blessings that the camp romance was introduced only after Verso, and that they didn't try to shove anything in with Gustave in Act 1||

[pallid gull]

||i think there was a vague attempt and i keep ignoring it dskjhsf||

[languid gyro]

||me irl tbh||

[pallid gull]

||sophie mentioned in the prologue him and lune would've made a cute couple and then she was like "unless... something already happened?" and gustave was like "..."||

||one side of me is like i'm nosy as hell what's up with that and the other side is like pls no||

[languid gyro]

||I did interpret that scene more as Sophie trying to gently tell Gustave he has her blessing to move on from her after the Gommage, than a genuine ship, but yeah I was thinking about that too||

[pallid gull]

||yeah, same, i think his answer was what threw me off, but we could interpret his grunt as awkwardness that he's essentially being told "forget me"||

[languid gyro]

The way I actually woke up and got ready earlier than usual today but still might be late for work because I spent too much time discoursing about French sex 💀

Gotta run

[pallid gull]

heelp, take care 🩷

[hoary nacelle]

lmaooo take care !! hope work goes well

[wheat tulip]

Take caare

[pallid gull]

reading someone's chat when p5 was introduced and honestly me

end of act 1 ||mind you this was right after everyone was sobbing and writing about their mental breakdowns||

[languid gyro]

||It’s what they really needed to release some frustration||

[pallid gull]

||me feeling like throwing up and sobbing into my hands: you're so fuckin hot||

[wheat tulip]

||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdB955fs/|| lmaoo after act 2 spoiler

[hoary nacelle]

ending || https://www.youtube.com/shorts/c3DHDBFNj9M ||
|| this is so real and i think this is exactly why i picked maelle's ending over verso's even though i ended up liking his ending more by the end, it just felt right in the moment for me like the person says in the video ||

[pallid gull]

||yeah, really the people in the canvas are such a huge deciding factor in it||

[wheat tulip]

They said it so well

[green escarp]

Technically a late game spoiler:

|| ||

Link to the original post: ||https://www.vxreddit.com/r/expedition33/comments/1l1ibd7/friendship_forgotten_art_by_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button||

[pallid gull]

ending ||watching verryfinny do the ending rn||

idk why i spoilered that

but it's okay lmao

[green escarp]

Ending spoilers:
||https://www.vxreddit.com/r/expedition33/comments/1l179ec/if_looks_could_kill/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button||

||Happy to see more attention to this specifically.||
||And by happy I mean d e p r e s s i o n||

[pallid gull]

real

[wheat tulip]

Ckrkfkfkf

[green escarp]

||I'm going to have to pick Verso's ending on my next (well, current) run for the cosmetics. But I will not be happy about it. Lune's reaction is just haunting on so many levels. I feel like a bastard, the worst imaginable scum in existence just seeing it and everything it conveys without saying a single word||

[green escarp]

||The universal reaction. Validating and heart wrenching.||

[pallid gull]

||finny picked verso, felt that 🤝 ||

[keen thunder]

||haunts me for days.. I want it on a shirt ||

[pallid gull]

ending ||damn, im so mad i didnt take off cheater and painted power, i missed all their interactions 😭 ||

||maelle telling him "can we just go home and talk about this?" ough||

[green escarp]

ending (veryfinny stream) ||Oh guess who gets to experience the Lune face of betrayal next! ||

[pallid gull]

||"fair enough" the way i said that too while i was sobbing lmaoo i was like okay you're mad... valid and so true||

ughhh the music

good game...

||"would it have been the same if i had romanced lune?" somehow the fact that it's the same makes it so much worse, it feels like that death stare is even more warranted LMAO like compose a song with a man and then he condemns you and your world to the void||

||that ben starr performance is so haunting||

||OHHH... oh my god i completely missed that||

||she literally makes him old at his request because he becomes completely devoid of life after damn||

||i assumed as much, but i missed the actual dialogue line||

||the chat rn||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1114574435144450059.webp?size=100&animated=true

[wheat tulip]

What did they do again

[pallid gull]

||lmaoo nothing specific, just a lot of "she was right" "he was right" 😭||

[wheat tulip]

Ugh

[pallid gull]

||wait finny has verso solo too||

||is this just a thing if you pick his ending? everyone is gone from your party unless you add them? 😭 ||

||like understandable, but damn ||

[pallid gull]

lmao ending ||watching a ben starr interview and he's like "how do you feel about choice in games in general? i remember seeing at IGN 'how to get the true ending' and it's like... i know what they mean by that, sometimes games don't have an ending. but like, this idea that there has to be a "canon" ending to something... i quite like making the crap ending"||

[vivid peak]

Act two ||?end I stopped just before the fight with the paintress (after climbing up following the fake fight with her) and I just was wondering is act three about the same or longer than act two, generally speaking? Without side stuff||

||the reason being I’m going away this weekend and was wondering if I could finish before then… but I probably won’t try because I don’t want to rush things for the sake of it||

[pallid gull]

are you actually asking

just making sure lmao

[wheat tulip]

Wondering that as well kckffkfi

[vivid peak]

Yeah

||I mean I also don’t know where act two ends but||

||It kind of feels like it’s nearing||

I am not bothered too much by this being spoiled as long as it’s not explicitly saying what happens lol

[pallid gull]

||we kinda avoid saying act 3 (won't say why) so that's something to keep in mind when tagging posts from now on. buuut, yes, it is the length of a normal act, so quite long i guess||

[vivid peak]

Oh ok

I’m confused so Should I redact what I said

[pallid gull]

yeah, that's okay!

[vivid peak]

Thanks Aiden

I don’t think I will try then…

[wheat tulip]

Yeah keep it after you come back!

[languid gyro]

||I disagree. If we're specifying "without side stuff" it is significantly shorter than either of the previous Acts||

[pallid gull]

jonjon DNI ||the companion quests are main story, right?||

[languid gyro]

||they probably should be, but no they're technically not||

[pallid gull]

endgame ||that's strange because my marker did not lead me straight to lumiere...it led me to the companion quests||

[languid gyro]

||the only actual mandatory main story content in Act 3 is going straight to Lumiere, which you can do directly after Act 2 pretty much||

||I do still think though that, mandatory or not, you probably should do the companion quests first though, and I'll probably lightly recommend as much to jonjon when he gets there||

[pallid gull]

||yeah, i included them because i think they're pretty much main story tbh||

||even if they're not considered as such||

[languid gyro]

||That said, I think that even with all the companion quests included Act 3 is a little shorter than either 1 or 2, though less overwhelmingly so if you include them||

||Also I should probably actually respond to jonjon lol; hopefully he's been good and has not clicked any of these||

[languid gyro]

||It's the shortest Act. Though that said probably still better to not rush for the sake of it||

I'm sorry was no one going to tell me that ||they released a version of Until Next Life with Ben Starr singing in it???||

@pallid gull get in here

[wheat tulip]

Oh yes they talked about it i think

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[languid gyro]

I went out of my way to avoid all E33 related videos, including minimal trailers/promotional stuff/social media posts for the most part till finishing, so I've missed a lot 😭

[wheat tulip]

Oh yeah dw lmao

Its the best way to experience the game

I didnt know which one it was so im also surprised

[pallid gull]

i didn't know about it either bc ive done the same

but aghhh

[languid gyro]

[post-Act 2 big spoilers] ||the [Maelle] song in the soundtrack having the exact same melody as [Alicia] but the words are French instead of a made-up language....||

||the way I'm not sure I would have even caught this because as far as my ears are concerned they're both gibberish aslkdfjalksfa||

[wheat tulip]

Glekgkfkgk at least for yall it was 😭

[green escarp]

Endgame Superboss Spoiler
||https://youtu.be/n9cEqyAhdGI?si=gXaVyZvs_2j0qr_w||

[pallid gull]

okay i can finally listen to this, i didn't get a chance since i was getting ready for bed lmao

wait it's too flashy lmao

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

there we go, this gif is better

anyone else miss this game really bad 😭

[wheat tulip]

😭

Me too aiden

[pallid gull]

waking up and listening to the ost on command just to feel something

i think the most telling sign of having a hyperfixation that's really really bad is that i can tell when it happens when my sleep gets really bad

slept at 5am for 3 nights in a row

[wheat tulip]

Felt aiden felt...

[pallid gull]

endgame spoilers ||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBGj1km/ ||

[wheat tulip]

Omg its red too

[wheat tulip]

Whyy

[pallid gull]

i love edits of this game...but also ow

[wheat tulip]

They want to kill us all!!

[green escarp]

Sam Slade beat (superboss endgame spoiler) ||Simon|| last night after struggling for 5 days and not wanting to use a oneshot build

Boss died to burn damage. Was hilarious

[wheat tulip]

Omgg

Congrats to them!

I saw the notification i was like oh damn

[pallid gull]

only if u have all companions u can check ||https://xcancel.com/NoxtuaA/status/1926224782158098897 ||

cute

[wheat tulip]

Love them

[pallid gull]

the withdrawal is so bad y'all

like im playing other games and it's great but chest hurty disease missing this game

[keen thunder]

CINEMA

[languid gyro]

[ending spoilers for both E33 and XC3] ||why do they have to make two of the games whose central theme is “moving on/forward” so hard to move on from 😭 ||

[pallid gull]

||ig bc it's in human nature to struggle to move on, that's why these themes hurt so bad when they're in media they're sick for this||

https://xcancel.com/expedition33/status/1929841202288857467?t=mZZbdgYBJ1R1lvckyJF3pQ&s=19

[wheat tulip]

[green escarp]

Act 2 spoilers ||Gustave looking at the memes: "I'm sorry what happens at the end of act 1???"||

[pallid gull]

act 1 and maybe act 2 idk ||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBtX3Wd/ ||

||i love you french comphet yuri||

[keen thunder]

I didn’t realize that “for those who come after” bathroom sign came from the release party LMAO (has an Act 2 song spoiler) https://vxtwitter.com/billiefb_vo/status/1929863193515393535?s=46

Billie Fulford-Brown is Sophie in Expedition 33 (@billiefb_VO)

#Expedition33 release party part 1
@RichKeeble @TracyWiles @alionabaranova1 @expedition33

#gamers #videogames #GamingContent https://t.co/tmDR86o3cp

▶ Play video

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 3, 2025, 11:30 AM

[keen thunder]

Daredevil Gustave! https://x.com/tylorhepnerart/status/1929947896729796621?s=46

Tylor Hepner (@TylorHepnerArt)

Charlie Cox signed my Gustave art!✨

Thank you to Huy Nguyen for sharing this with me✨
According to his assistant, it was his first Expedition 33 art he’s signed!✨
So cool for me to see✨

X · Jun 3, 2025, 5:06 PM

[keen thunder]

Endgame fanart || https://x.com/quirkiliciouss/status/1929972584931832219?s=46 ||

Drake Tsui (@Quirkiliciouss)

"What will you paint?"

#digitalpainting #ClairObscurExpedition33

X · Jun 3, 2025, 6:44 PM

[wheat tulip]

Omg magnifique fanart

[green escarp]

Ending spoilers: ||Lorie seeing that moment Verso split in half to cheer up the party, with Monocco saying "aren't you getting too attached" and she has no idea how much more its going to hurt by game's end ||

[pallid gull]

||that scene gets me every time ||

||also the fact that the reason he "learned" it it was because he got cut in half previously and it's what led to the first expeditioners he followed getting killed lmao||

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320524695270981643.webp?size=100&animated=true

[wheat tulip]

Evil devs

[wheat tulip]

Omg ||cleas axon || after act 2 spoiler

[pallid gull]

ending ||thinking of lune with the death stare with the gestral hair||

[wheat tulip]

Okay why-

[pallid gull]

ending ||good lord... i never realized you can hear verso screaming, dying in the fire in that one cutscene||

[wheat tulip]

||i noticed it but i didnt noticed the manor kxifkffk||

[keen thunder]

this is a really dumb thought but i might be cooking (Full story spoilers for Expedition 33 and Devil May Cry 5) || The overall plot in the final act of DMC5 focused in on the familial conflict between Dante & Vergil with their rivalry while Nero, having the big revelation about him being related to them, steps in between them (since he cares about them both). Both stories tackle different themes but I thought it was interesting how both go from world ending threats as the stakes then a big shift in focus to an intimate and personal family dilemma. Or maybe I'm just biased about the games I like a lot lol and my brain is just having fun||

[fringe walrus]

i missed the game

[wheat tulip]

||Guillaume broche has a whole youtube channel about devil may cry so its not farfetch||

[green escarp]

But now you're in a better headspace to play it

[pallid gull]

i'm happy that you're enjoying it but also i'm proud of you for recognizing it can be too much at times and that you need breaks 🙂‍↕️

[wheat tulip]

You need to be prepared to play this game ngl

The emotional damage is hard

[pallid gull]

idk if we spoiler him anymore but p5 @fringe walrus ||https://bsky.app/profile/rituwuls.bsky.social/post/3lq62kedmp22r ||

Blake (COMMS ON HOLD) (@rituwuls.bsky.social)

Someone PLEASE get him some contacts
#ClairObscurExpedition33 #Expedition33 #Verso #art

Bluesky · May 27, 2025, 3:57 PM

[wheat tulip]

Omg hes so cute like that

Want to bite him

[fringe walrus]

LMAOOO

[fringe walrus]

Same for him

[pallid gull]

heeelp

now hold on why do they kinda look alike 😭

[fringe walrus]

Twinning I guess LMAO

[pallid gull]

lmaooo

[fringe walrus]

Wait the way koga’s fur is kinda does give his hair……

[pallid gull]

no cause that's what i mean jdksfnksms

why are they the same picture wtf

[wheat tulip]

The way he feels like he knows what you are doing rn lmao

[green escarp]

Does that make Xiaoh Lune?

[pallid gull]

who does xiaoh have beef with again

or is she chilling

[green escarp]

Sorry I just imagined all the furbabys as party members now lmao

[pallid gull]

i think billy has beef with koga doesn't he...

i'm forgetting the pet lore

[wheat tulip]

Isnt billy fighting everyone ??

Criminal

[pallid gull]

no!! he's just misunderstood

[wheat tulip]

My bad technician*

[pallid gull]

exactly, he has a dream

and no one respects it

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

[fringe walrus]

she just chills! billy has a problem with koga like he lowkey bullies him 😭

heeelp not the dream kasjdkfas

[pallid gull]

nawt koga being twice his size and just taking it

big baby

[fringe walrus]

i feel like Verso would be the same way maybe... I'm still getting to know him

now I'm just imagining Verso as Koga LMAOOO

[vivid peak]

Oh congrats (?) on finishing act one Lorie

[pallid gull]

no cause the color scheme is like... what in the gijinka is going on

[fringe walrus]

the ponytail

[pallid gull]

i luv hims

oh that reminds me i gotta go back and clip smth

[languid gyro]

the little white strands are even more pronounced here and I love them 🤍 the way it's giving [FF14 SHB] ||Emet-Selch||

||me when I love tired and depressed immortal men with black hair and a slutty little white stripe||

[pallid gull]

oh wtf they changed the clip menu what is going awnnn where am i

[fringe walrus]

i'll tell koga you said that 😍

[languid gyro]

give him a treat from me while you're at it

[fringe walrus]

wait now i'm inspired

one sec

i'm risking it by googling a pic of verso

[languid gyro]

now I'm imagining art of Verso as a grumpy dog

[pallid gull]

wait i can get you one

[languid gyro]

maybe don't 😭

[pallid gull]

im so scared

[languid gyro]

Aiden or I can find a pic

[fringe walrus]

wait i think i won i didn't see anything but i didn't scroll down far

[vivid peak]

😬

[fringe walrus]

i just looked at the first row

[pallid gull]

okay 😭

lorie and dulci giving me heart palpys every day lord

[languid gyro]

playing with fire 😭

[pallid gull]

i had to dm dulci cause act 2 ||he was right there when renoir was saying that verso was his son|| and i literally was like IDC IF YOU'RE THIRSTING YOU NEED TO GO

[languid gyro]

oh did we get there today? 👀 still need to find time to catch up on today's vod after I do some more work

and also eat dinner

[pallid gull]

act 2 lorie you can click ||https://www.twitch.tv/lorie/clip/ViscousBitterBibimbapVoteYea-pYt6zsyTJjrQbRhy ||

i love this clip lmao

[languid gyro]

I remember that being one, of many, early moments when I stopped and went "wait I might be in love with this man" 🥲

[vivid peak]

I can’t fault him tbh

[pallid gull]

||for me it was when he requested a hug from esquie... i was like oh... you're really soft aren't you||

[languid gyro]

[act 2 camp] ||he really does have the fluffiest soul 😭 😭 😭 ||

[vivid peak]

||The dialogue and the way Ben Starr delivers it…||
Act two ||For me it was the wheee whoo (jk it was love at first sight)||

[pallid gull]

yeah, he hasn't spent a lot of time on stream either bc he's either busy or he wants to play the games and not get spoiled so i'm constantly on his ass like "SPOILERS" and he just puts up with it like a champ 😭

[pallid gull]

HELP LMAOOO

[fringe walrus]

dulci and zillian are so much more magical with their photoshops but i did my best

[languid gyro]

woof woof bark bark

[pallid gull]

it's a masterpiece, it's trew

[languid gyro]

the way it's kinda giving sphinx

[fringe walrus]

omg that reminds me... viewing him as a puppy now and the way i feel like lune is very black cat energy and they're always bickering

i actually love this dynamic

[pallid gull]

and that's on why they're my favs 🙂‍↕️

[fringe walrus]

good characters i really like sciel too bc she's giving camp mom to me

"everyone get along... let's try to stop fighting..."

[languid gyro]

Honestly I don't think there's a single character I dislike

[pallid gull]

and i could write essays on all of them

some more than others...

[languid gyro]

I feel like we kinda have been lmao

[pallid gull]

lmaoo yes

i need to go back to editing this game bc i had so much fun and i felt so inspired going back to game edits

[fringe walrus]

excited to join yall at the end ahhhh

act 2 || the part today had me so intrigued 😭 who the fawk is alicia man..... ||

[pallid gull]

many thoughts.. many questions

[languid gyro]

[unsure how I'd spoil this exactly help me aiden] ||but thinking about how [Alicia] is the name of the title screen bgm... (I think I was actually in Act 1 when I learned this and was both ??? and 👀 )||

[fringe walrus]

do i not read?

gonna be extra careful about clickies just in case

[languid gyro]

for now maybe don't, unless Aiden thinks it's fine (though it was something I learned before where you are and I don't think it ruined anything for me? just made me more intrigued, but everyone responds differently to new information so)

[pallid gull]

uhh i am unsure actually? it's technically an act 1 thing but i don't know if it offers context to anything or might make you overthink because it's not something you noticed... idk 😭

[fringe walrus]

idk i'm gonna not click just in case LMAOO aksjdk

[pallid gull]

i was gonna say, better not LMAO

i feel like our answers created more expectations than anything

the way idk how to talk about this game at times bc im so scared of accidentally spoiling ppl 😵‍💫

[languid gyro]

where did you stop stream today btw, storywise?

[pallid gull]

||after noco died 😵‍💫 ||

[fringe walrus]

some of my theories are off the wall like when (general spoilers for act 1 and 2) || i thought renoir was actually another gustave who is older so i thought we actually wouldn't fight him again bc the gang wouldn't want to and he'd join us and now i'm sitting here like well maybe maelle and verso are related somehow bc their eyes are the same colors LMAOOO idk i'm everwhere so i think i should just know nothing and let my wildest dreams be thwarted whilst i play||

[pallid gull]

im eating all ur theories up

[languid gyro]

||can't believe Lorie thinks all frenchmen look the same, cancelled||

[pallid gull]

||okay but in the prologue when gustave's sister looked so much like sophie and all chat was like is that sophie... and the way i also thought that was sophie when i played on my own......||

[languid gyro]

||said in the same paragraph too that all french are probably related smh||

[fringe walrus]

HEEEELP THAT WAS SO FUNNY

[vivid peak]

This game is so well written
Good world building, and they know how to unfurl their mysteries giving us just enough as we move forward to speculate and nibble on

[languid gyro]

||I didn't have that same reaction but I kinda get it lol; I do also recall Renoir = Older Gustave being a pretty popular early theory||

[fringe walrus]

|| i was like girl what is going awn is she back is that why everyone is paying attn to her right now??? ||

[pallid gull]

oh lor i have a question if that's okay? i'm kinda scared of asking you in stream chat just in case ppl get pushy, but how do you feel about side content that could offer worldbuilding information? i know you've been really locked in for the story

[languid gyro]

In general I really appreciate the writing in this game and how it very rarely directly exposits and instead just lets revelations and understanding come naturally through dialogue and exploration

[fringe walrus]

i'm totally fine with that actually!! i would love to do some side content for more world building

[vivid peak]

||everyone pay attention to my ex-dead ex my zombie queen is speaking ||

[languid gyro]

[for non-lories] ||so true Lorie should go to all the gestral beaches for "worldbuilding"||

[fringe walrus]

going back to what aiden shared today.... https://bsky.app/profile/shiroginko.bsky.social/post/3lqlmayd5as2m

they both got face scars too omg what is happening with ben starr

Ginko 🌳 (@shiroginko.bsky.social)

Gee Ben Starr, how come you get to voice two beautiful traumatized men (clive and verso) with blue ass eyes and floofy hair

Bluesky · Jun 2, 2025, 1:19 AM

[pallid gull]

okie!! i think there are def some specific things where i was like "i feel like lorie would want to experience this storywise" even tho it was just side content. but either way, i don't want you to feel obligated to do anything. i know you're okay with me giving suggestions but i always fear i sound too backseaty

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[vivid peak]

Typecast and it’s my type

[pallid gull]

and the way i love them both with all my heart... ben starr curse

[fringe walrus]

no you don't!! you're allowed to backseat or give me tips.... everyone else to jail

i gotta get back to editing act 1 now that i know my hacker isn't watching me.... maybe

[vivid peak]

Everyone praising Clive for being over 30 and ||verso said hold my beer|| end of act one

[languid gyro]

it's literally just this with aiden on top (and as it should be tbh)

[pallid gull]

HFDSKJHFSDKJS

[fringe walrus]

YUP exactly

[green escarp]

Me fearing getting yelled at every time Lorie misses a "check up on the others" at camp, I just don't want her to miss things 😭

[pallid gull]

i think it's okay as long as the game doesn't progress by a lot? unless im spreading misinfo again.... but yeah, i think you can lose them if the story goes too far

[languid gyro]

It's at least more lenient than BG3; imagine if in E33 we had to stop and camp multiple times between each story beat for The Cutscene Queue 😭

[vivid peak]

I’m curious about this so ||if you don’t interact at specific story points do you just miss the interactions?||

[pallid gull]

no bc the way i would visit camp in e33 1000 times even if i wouldn't make progress bc i was like "what if i miss dialogue"

[languid gyro]

Yes

[green escarp]

NOT THE RAGEY 😭

I'mma crawl into a hole

[vivid peak]

Oh now I’m paranoid whether I missed anything

I guess there’s always ng+

[languid gyro]

There's at least one camp interaction too that ||gives a music record, and it's missable, so if you didn't get it you'd need to wait till NG+ 💀 ||

[fringe walrus]

i'm always honest when someone is pissing me off when it comes to bsg so if i haven't said anything yet then no worries, shadow!

[pallid gull]

hey at least u're not the ff13 community

that's always a plus

[fringe walrus]

oh my god

[languid gyro]

🍵 ?

[pallid gull]

i think it was the worst backseating i've ever seen as a mod

i actually had to straight up ban someone for backseating bc warnings were no longer enough

[vivid peak]

Oh why 13 in particular

[fringe walrus]

ppl are horrendous about that game bc besides the bsg, there was always something someone had to say about the gameplay or the characters

like no one asked

[vivid peak]

I mean you should really only need one warning

[green escarp]

You'd be surprised how many people don't take "shut the fuck up" as a hint

[pallid gull]

when you would barely meet a character and ppl started being like "i hate that man" and i was like okay can everyone be normal so she can at least say 2 words to him and get to know him so she can form her own opinion

[fringe walrus]

"hallway simulator, worst FF, snow sucks, lightning is just cloud, hope is annoying" SHUT UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[vivid peak]

Not cloud 💀

[pallid gull]

omg yeah someone literally called her female cloud dfkjhdfs

insane game to mod

very good game to play though, i love that game

[vivid peak]

Ff7 is a good game if you ignore a lot of the people who like it

[fringe walrus]

it's so true actually

[vivid peak]

Silver lining you honed your sniper skills?

[pallid gull]

i think my sniper skills were honed mostly during ff16

not bc of the game in particular, but so many things were happening when that game came out dfskjhfsd

[vivid peak]

Oh

Has e33 been better?

[fringe walrus]

i was on the front page and featured like 4 times that year or something?

[pallid gull]

no LMAO

because people end of act 1 ||literally tried spoiling gustave's death for her||

[green escarp]

Me with Star Wars these days

[fringe walrus]

this will never not be insane to me

[pallid gull]

yeah! it was during pride month

[fringe walrus]

mostly bc something like that has not happened to me in YEARS when it comes to a single player game like this (not gonna mention the hoyo fandom bc they don't count)

[green escarp]

it was like 3 seperate people in the span of 5 minutes trying to spoil the act 1 ending

[wheat tulip]

Glad no one knows french lmao

[green escarp]

Like, wtf

[vivid peak]

That’s crazy… not regulars I can’t imagine?

[green escarp]

All randos

[pallid gull]

yeah, trolls

[green escarp]

A regular wouldn't dare, they wouldn't be regulars if they did that lol

[pallid gull]

first msg in chat just to be pieces of shit 😭

which like happens often, just not for spoilers

so it was surprising

[fringe walrus]

yeah... chat had to be put in emote only and then sub only

[green escarp]

I could feel Aiden seething through the internet soon as that emote only went up

[pallid gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320524695270981643.webp?size=100&animated=true

[vivid peak]

I can’t put myself in their perspective why would you want to ruin it for someone like that. Get therapy

[pallid gull]

attention seeking

getting a strong reaction from someone that's in a vulnerable position and that was really excited for a very hyped story

[vivid peak]

It’s a good thing you’ve finished Aiden would be hard to mod otherwise

[pallid gull]

yeah, it helps 🙂‍↕️

[pallid gull]

u can perceive if u've recruited all companions ||https://xcancel.com/NoxtuaA/status/1928429779159798241/photo/1 ||

[wheat tulip]

Omg ||i want to see verso with purple hair now lmao||

[pallid gull]

wait why purple

[wheat tulip]

||wasnt it purple in his dialogue with sciel? During the second one||

[pallid gull]

idk im confused

[wheat tulip]

||he said his color was dye from the gestrals and he was scared of having purple one time||

Or something like that

[pallid gull]

OHHH

i forgor

[languid gyro]

I can't believe aiden has been a fake fan all this time 😔

[wheat tulip]

[pallid gull]

i'm glad i get to watch lorie experience it because no matter how much i love something my brain is like lemme add a few blank spots for fun

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320524695270981643.webp?size=100&animated=true

[wheat tulip]

Honestly same its just luck this time my brain connected it

[languid gyro]

no that's so real though I've re-experienced this game so many times via other streamers

[pallid gull]

yeah, it's such a good refresher

[languid gyro]

watching Lorie stream right now and [optional endgame spoilers] ||seeing all the glowing swords of light in Old Lumiere is wild now that I have context because first time going through the game I was curious about them but eventually chalked it up to just being there to add a lil aesthetic flavor, but now it clicked that they're remnants of Simon's attacks from when he took down Hauler...||

[pallid gull]

endgame ||oh i dont know the tea there, i've never beat up simon ||

[languid gyro]

||that man never beat your ass with a sword of light?||

[pallid gull]

||he did, yeah, but i don't know the story of him taking down hauler, im assuming it's in the expedition journal he's guarding?||

[wheat tulip]

I want to say something but|| everyone will just say its my kink💀😭||

[vivid peak]

I’m getting psychological damage from the word endgame… it’s ok resisting temptation building character self control is like a muscle you must exercise to develop

[wheat tulip]

Lmao jonjon

[languid gyro]

||oh that part, ye there's more detail in journal; though also, when you first walk up to Simon, even before he awakens, the first line of dialogue is Monoco saying "Ahhh. So he's the one who felled the Axon."||

||And at that point we know that the only dead Axon is the one in Old Lumiere, who we also know at this point is Hauler||

[green escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/you-have-nobody-to-blame-but-yourself-harlan-drum-cece-matney-sweet-magnolias-blame-yourself-gif-17624164

[languid gyro]

Went to go watch a youtube video to fact check myself before posting bc I wasn't 100% sure lol

[wheat tulip]

NO THATS FALSE

[wheat tulip]

I didnt know ||we knew its name||

[languid gyro]

I know you're joking but like unironically, yeah, self-control is a thing you can actively train/practice

[green escarp]

You literally bring it up every single time we see or talk about ||the swords||

I can go back and screenshot all your comments if you want :P

[languid gyro]

||We get its name from the final Renoir fight, when he summons all the Axons in his second phase (assuming you don't kill him too fast)||

All of these are still endgame spoilers btw, just to be clear

[wheat tulip]

Oh...

[wheat tulip]

||interesting 2 are in english and the others 2 are in french||

[languid gyro]

||"Visages" is also English (I assume that's the other French one you're referring to, since "Reacher" and "Hauler" feel even more English-coded)||

[vivid peak]

Oh I wasn’t entirely joking. Just being here is like going to a bar straight from AA

[languid gyro]

||So the Wife Axon is French, but the Children Axons are all in English||

[wheat tulip]

Oh its also in english? My bad!

[languid gyro]

I mean from what you said it sounds like it's a French word too! So one of those words that's the same in both languages (or hell, knowing English, it may have even taken it from French; I haven't checked the origin of the word)

[languid gyro]

I just checked; it was indeed taken from French

so cool! learned something new today

[wheat tulip]

Oh i see honestly im not even sure anymore since everyone steals words from everyone

A bit pejorative , share would be a better term

[languid gyro]

And even the other, French, one is really similar to the equivalent English word ||Siren||

[languid gyro]

Hard to say, really, how much came from friendly mutual language exchange via trade, and how much was actually stealing/colonialism

[wheat tulip]

||i just know its different since theres the e at the end and the accent from time to time||

[vivid peak]

There’s a big historical reason why English has a lot of French words though because the French conquered Britain
So it’s not even sharing, it’s the result of conquest

[wheat tulip]

Huh

I thought napoleon got yeeted

[vivid peak]

The Norman conquest of 1066

[languid gyro]

Yknow, I think English would honestly be improved with accents denoting how to pronounce or emphasize different vowel sounds because a lot of times it does sorta just feel like guess-and-hope with new words

[pallid gull]

oh that's right...yeah, i need to go back and read upon some things bc my memory is so ass most of the time

[vivid peak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Conquest

[vivid peak]

Yeah many centuries before napoleon!

It’s where we get our words for meat - only the elites got to eat it

[wheat tulip]

The way i never learned that

[wheat tulip]

I mean ... we dont use ours differently so..

[vivid peak]

Pork, mutton, poultry, beef from porc, mouton, boeuf

Otherwise we’d just call it pig sheep etc

[wheat tulip]

Or the difference is minime

[languid gyro]

Honestly this is a lot of languages that aren't English, I find

[wheat tulip]

Wait i never heard of mutton jckfck

[vivid peak]

Mutton is sheep meat (sometimes goat)

[languid gyro]

It was so refreshing learning Japanese and having all the vowel sounds just be consistent instead of having to guess (kanji is where the guessing comes in)

[wheat tulip]

Thats different animals tho...

[languid gyro]

It's also why a part of my brain gets really annoyed (and I try to shut it down / not voice it aloud generally because I understand it's unfair and that not everyone has learned the same things I have) when people see a new Japanese word/name and make a guess at how it's pronounced and go back and forth between trying to pronounce it with a short vowel sound or a long one, and I'm just internally screaming "it's always the same! it's not like English! you don't have to guess!!" 😭

[wheat tulip]

A what sound

Im sorry my french brain doesnt understand 😭

[languid gyro]

Every English vowel has, minimum, two ways to be pronounced, which we call "short" vs "long" vowel sounds. For example:

• a short 'a' sound would be how it's used in apple, or Ampharos
• a long 'a' sound would be how it's used in alien, or Rain, or Aiden

[wheat tulip]

Oooh

The different pronounciation of the sound

[languid gyro]

ye

[wheat tulip]

The first one is the closest to our a sound so its good but the second was hard to pronounce surprisingly

[languid gyro]

but it's not always clear when to use which sound, so if you see a brand new English word or name with an "A" in it, you may not know immediately if you're supposed to be using the sound of "a" as in "apple" or "a" as in "alien" and a lot of people just kinda guess 💀

and this then translates to how they interact with other languages (understandably, since it's all they know), even if there's actually no need to guess in those languages because that letter only ever makes one possible sound, instead of two or more

[wheat tulip]

Oh right it was a torture to learn 😭

[languid gyro]

for native speakers too, honestly 😭

[wheat tulip]

Goegkffk help if even native speakers cant get it 😭

[languid gyro]

that's just pronunciation; don't get me started on spelling...or grammar...

English is a bastard language

[wheat tulip]

But i guess thats also how we know by instinct the gender of a word here...

Tkfkhrkg

[languid gyro]

I mean this both literally (it is a combination of so many other languages) and also derogatorily

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

If i knew native english speaker would hate more their language than us learning it in school😭

[vivid peak]

English is really hard to learn, I volunteered as a tutor for new refugees when I was in college and I would often be at a loss for why something is the way it is in English. There are so many exceptions to rules can it really be called a rule

[languid gyro]

me thinking about the legal system and how it doesn't to apply to rich white men

[wheat tulip]

Oh i understand that kxfkfk

[languid gyro]

but yeah, I get that for sure

[wheat tulip]

We have too many rules in french

And too many exceptions to thoses rules

[vivid peak]

It’s more regular than English though. I think

[wheat tulip]

If you take regular french yes

But thats not how most of the people speaks it here anymore😭

[vivid peak]

And orthography is more regular. To an English speaker the weird combination of letters is intimidating but once you learn it it generally tends to be pronounce what you read

[languid gyro]

||the only French I'm interested in "taking" right now is Verso tbh||

[wheat tulip]

Nawt the horny message in between lmao

[languid gyro]

LOL

[vivid peak]

Vernacular English is something too lol