Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

[wheat tulip]

||damn cleas vitality with last chance of maelle is so broken ||

[languid gyro]

||Now go back into the Monolith to fight the Chromatic Clair Obscur 👏 ||

[wheat tulip]

||just found this one today😭||

[wheat tulip]

||Oh damn finally doing some damage !! 21 millions lets goo||

[languid gyro]

Despite what I said, I’m honestly a little tempted to go home and mess with my teamcomps and luminas a bit just to see a big number for funsies

Not gonna look up any existing strats (esp since they’ll likely use luminas or weapons I haven’t found yet) but gonna do some numbercrunching of my own at home with what I’ve got

Biggest worry atm is ||my own personal hangups about using suicide tactics, but now that I also have auto-revive luminas I may be okay with them? As long as the end result is that everyone is alive at the victory screen||

[wheat tulip]

Dopamine guaranted🙂‍↕️

Im so mad || i dont have her best weapon 😭 medalum being the most broken one haunts me!! I won with gustave💀||

[languid gyro]

Honestly now that you’re this far into the game ||just go back to Gestral Village and challenge Golgra with Maelle; I believe you can get Medalum from doing that||

[wheat tulip]

I can but im not that skilled😭

[languid gyro]

Even with ||damage cap removed||?

[wheat tulip]

||doing luminas color grind rn too ||

[wheat tulip]

Its not that the issue sadly

Its my parry/ dodge 😭

[hasty halo]

Yeah. ||I tried to go back and fight them too. And it still kicked my butt 💀||

[wheat tulip]

Maybe i can try now

Got iit

[wheat tulip]

||tried with verso this time wtf ||

[languid gyro]

Nice! Looks like you finally got around to changing up your builds!

[pallid gull]

rewatching parts of lorie's vod and damn this man is so beautiful it's not fair

[wheat tulip]

Yess

[wheat tulip]

Want to suck everything

[languid gyro]

So I'm still theorycrafting rn but my theoretical best teamcomp that I want to try involves ||swapping Lune out with Sciel, which I'm tentatively okay with, but it also might involve swapping Verso out for Monoco which I'm much less okay with (both because Verso is probably at this point my overall favorite, but also because I've dumped waaaaay too much lumina into this man to swap him out ever)||

My main questions right now, which I'll need to play around with and test myself in-game involves ||how the auto-death luminas interact with each other. More specifically, if I have two characters that both auto-die but also immediately revive, are they able to benefit each other with the on-death buffs, or does it not work because the death and buffs happen simultaneously but before the revival?||

Or, if that's confusing, let's take this hypothetical: ||Let's say Sciel and Verso both have [Auto Death], [Energising Death], and [Second Chance] equipped. Sciel and Verso will both die immediately at the battle start and also both revive immediately after. However, will they be able to boost each others' AP with [Energising Death], or will the AP go only to Maelle because Sciel and Verso will be considered "dead" at the moment of AP distribution from the lumina?||

||As a third option, I wonder if turn order affects how the death/revive/buff sequence takes effect, in which case I can imagine a scenario in which Sciel dies first, buffs Verso, then revives, and then Verso dies (and revives) having received Sciel's on-death buff||

[wheat tulip]

I think it will go ||to maelle?? Not sure thats so precised theorycrafting😭||

[languid gyro]

||Energy will def go to Maelle; I'm just trying to figure out if it'll go only to Maelle or not||

[wheat tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/math-lady-old-gif-18904946

[wheat tulip]

Thats ... a good question

[languid gyro]

||Oh wait actually [Energising Revive] exists, so maybe I just one of those on both Sciel and Verso and skip the [Energising Death] altogether lmao||

[wheat tulip]

Oh lets go i guess😭

The only way i can describe understanding the lyrics of this game is THE VOICES

[languid gyro]

First damage test with new team:

||Not too bad, esp since I'm still missing a bunch of pictos and weapons that would push this higher||

||What I'm trying to figure out though is why Sciel doesn't get two turns at the start with Cheater when Verso does; if I can figure that out I can push the damage much higher||

||Also I have not fully equipped everyone with a full set of pictos or luminas for these tests since I'm trying to figure out the bare minimum essentials for the build first||

[vivid peak]

I think in English we would just say we look forward to

Or something boring like that

Not we burn with impatience lol

[wheat tulip]

Its truly boring lmao poor english language

[vivid peak]

I got an email from a French counterpart at work and it was in equally flowery language… I’m jealous

[wheat tulip]

Our language love playing with hyperbole lol

[vivid peak]

Truly

[wheat tulip]

LMAO

[vivid peak]

But I love it

We lost that art

We should all write emails like we are in a Jane Austen novel

[wheat tulip]

Thats the way to write an email or letter which is little bit similar

[wheat tulip]

Idk what is that but yall should

[vivid peak]

He wrote back to me and the sign off was “je vous prie de croire à l’assurance de mes sentiments dévoués” and I was like is this person I’ve never met proposing to me

[wheat tulip]

The way we are like bonne journée à vous, cordialement etc

[wheat tulip]

Nope thats just la politesse and the rules in letter/mails lol

[vivid peak]

Mais quels sentiments

Sir

[wheat tulip]

Even I dont know too well about thoses since its in the work world

[wheat tulip]

D'admiration ! Or nothing

Its just an expression nowadays ngl

And to say please accept this paper man

[wheat tulip]

Maybe thats why people says we are flirting with everyone

Its just a way to talk come on!!

[vivid peak]

Yeah I’m sure they’re stock phrases haha

It might be an Aussie thing but things are super casual here even in professional contexts

[wheat tulip]

Must be nice

[vivid peak]

That’s why I feel like I’m suddenly a bridgerton debutante or something

[wheat tulip]

It seems so fucking annoying in the long run

[wheat tulip]

Lmao hope you likes it at least

Isnt it quite different tho? Since its british

[vivid peak]

Yeah lmao

I don’t know what the French equivalent is

[wheat tulip]

Mmmh

Something during louis 14 maybe

[languid gyro]

||Oh hey, popped the 100mil benchmark 🎊 ||

[wheat tulip]

Congrats !!

[vivid peak]

It would be funny if they wrote I pray you believe in the assurance of my devoted sentiments and got back gday nah you’re right no wuckas mate good on ya

[wheat tulip]

LMAOOO

I would have LOVE to see his face while reading it

Who the fuck am i writing to-

[vivid peak]

I mean I don’t actually write like that but it’s how we speak

[wheat tulip]

Sometimes i dont understand aussie i guess-

Felt like hearing some of the british accent ngl lmao

[vivid peak]

It’s ok no one does

It’s why I put on a fake American accent sometimes overseas

[hasty halo]

I really do need to find more pictos

[wheat tulip]

SCREAMING WHAT

Not the reveal in expedition33 thread!!

[vivid peak]

It’s not a big deal LMAO

[wheat tulip]

Not the american mask i cant lmao

[vivid peak]

The first time I was in LA and I ordered a coffee the server went to get her manager because she didn’t understand me

It was embarrassing

So i just fake it now

[wheat tulip]

Oh no😭😭

Nobody would understand me either ngl

The french accent is so ew

[vivid peak]

Not to me!

I like it

[wheat tulip]

A lot of people do i dont get it

Im just cringing so hard

[vivid peak]

I told this story before maybe but I was doing my English class in my French high school and the teacher made me give a talk and no one understood anything 😭 I thought I was speaking slowly too

It’s just the accent

People aren’t familiar with it, you never really hear it in popular media

[wheat tulip]

Yeah the aussie accent isnt that popular in media

[wheat tulip]

No dw we are just SO bad at english thats not on you 😭

Just language in general

[languid gyro]

||oh jesus, getting the final upgrade would straight up double my power 👀 where do I get one of those perfect chroma catalysts 😭 ||

[wheat tulip]

||its so rare😭 only got 5 i think||

Explore

[languid gyro]

[Post Act 2 Overworld] ||What do you meaannnn||

[wheat tulip]

||where is it fkdkxbf||

[languid gyro]

||Right above The Crows||

[wheat tulip]

Oooh

I dont remember doing it

Thanks another thing to do

[languid gyro]

Lmaooo glad to be of service

[languid gyro]

[post Act 2 outfit.....] ||Bald Maelle isn't real; she can't hurt you 💀 ||

[wheat tulip]

||oh you did the ultimate mime, bald mime||

[hasty halo]

||I'm very glad I haven't found that yet. I don't want it 😂😂💀||

[low steppe]

seeing the world around me differently

[fluid thistle]

Same, Pige!

[wheat tulip]

I mean

You do have a lot of french word huh

[green escarp]

I'm at work and I have the mime/petank theme stuck in my head.

Get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out get it out GET IT OUT 😭

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-my-head-gif-24390027

[vivid peak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-gif-5410502

[wheat tulip]

Not the cigarette

[fluid thistle]

Yup! Literally illegal to have no French on products sold in Canada. When we had to import children's Tylenol back in like 2021, we had to have a paper up daying we got it from the States and we had the French information hanging at it. And even a QR code as well for the French.

[wheat tulip]

I knew for quebec but i didnt know it was for ALL of canada

[wheat tulip]

||https://youtube.com/shorts/blm-WUzDuO8?si=CjakJrlW3w6qQTH1 || IM LAUGHING SO HARD RN LMAOO NOT HIM SAYING || GROSSE TÉTÉ normally it would mean big head but saying it like that would mean big boobs😭😭|| end of act 2 spoiler

[languid gyro]

Question for those close to the end (or have beaten it): ||Is the only way to unlock more camp cutscenes to head to Old Lumiere and fight Renoir? The game makes it seem like the final confrontation, but the fact that camp scenes are tied to story progress and there’s still progress to go makes me suspect otherwise||

Follow-up questions that I am okay with vague spoilers for:

• a) ||Is the point of no return well-telegraphed (as in the game has a pop up window that warns you, or something similar)?||
• b) ||What is the highest relationship rank you can go up to, and is it doable to max everyone in one playthrough?||

[green escarp]

||No, camp cutscenes can be done before fighting Renoir. They progress by doing personal quests for the characters||
||Point of no return is telegraphed, you will clearly see ahead of you "this is the final boss arena" and the characters will make commentary like "we should make sure we're ready"||
|| highest is 7 IIRC, and yes you can||

[languid gyro]

||I’ll try talking to everyone again when I get home, but I could swear I did that already in Act 3 and dialogue just ended with no mention of any quests. But maybe I just thought I checked but hadn’t…||

||Are there any specific outside triggers I should know about?||

[green escarp]

|| Have you done Lune, Maelle, Monocco and Esquie's quests?||

[languid gyro]

||I have not done any quests, but as far as I’m aware I have not been provided the opportunity to undertake any quests in the first place||

||So mostly I am asking how I can trigger starting those quests||

[green escarp]

||So when you talk to them they should say something and you have to go out in the world to do said thing. I don't remember if they get marked on the map. For example, Lune will talk about her parent's expedition and you have to go explore and find the site Verso mentiones||

[languid gyro]

||None of this happened the last time I spoke with them in camp as far as I recall||

||They’d just say a line of dialogue, and then dialogue ends, and that’s it||

[green escarp]

||Uuuuh, have you done all the "check in on the others" at the campfire?||

[languid gyro]

||As far as I’m aware, yes. Every single time I camp I always make the rounds to talk to every individual character and then do Gustave’s Journal then ‘Check up on others’||

||It’s fine; I may have just gaslit myself into thinking I spoke to everyone in camp in Act 3 when in fact I hadn’t; I’ll double check when I get home||

[languid gyro]

Other concern I had (just musings, don’t have to answer) is that ||to me, some of the areas accessible in Act 3, like the Sacred River, or a lot of the overworld chromatics, feel like optional side content to Act 3; meanwhile, other areas, like Endless Tower, feel more like post-game areas, stuff that’s more appropriate to do after the main story rather than before. But there’s no real distinction between the two, which has added to the Act 3 overworld exploration feeling even more overwhelming||

Granted, a lot of this is boundaries/categories of my own arbitrary making, and I understand that. But I do wish I had some way of knowing, beyond just vibes/intuition, ||which locations are notably more difficult than the main story final area/boss, and which optional locations/enemies are on par or weaker||

[languid gyro]

https://x.com/Dino_illus/status/1924394672245313869

Dino (@Dino_illus)

33

X · May 19, 2025, 9:20 AM

[green escarp]

@languid gyro and anyone at Act 2 ||Ok so I just learned my life is a lie and its at that specific rank, the rank going higher than the skill doesn't proc the bonus||

[fluid thistle]

Yeeee.

[languid gyro]

Question about a lategame picto/lumina: ||For some reason, even though all 3 of my active party members have Cheater equipped, Sciel does not get two turns to start while Verso and Maelle do, and I’m trying to figure out why this is||

||To further clarify: this is only for the first turn; the picto works as intended on all future turns beyond the first. But basically, my turn order should go Sciel -> Sciel -> Verso -> Verso -> Maelle -> Maelle, but instead it goes Sciel -> Verso -> Verso -> Maelle -> Maelle, skipping Sciel’s first additional turn||

||My hunch is that it’s some weird interaction with Sciel also having Auto-Death equipped, but Verso also has Auto-Death + Second Chance + Revive Paradox equipped, but he gets his additional Cheater turn just fine||

||The only other difference of note that comes to mind is that Verso and Maelle have the Cheater effect through lumina while Sciel has the actual picto equipped, but I don’t believe that should affect anything, unless there’s a bug I’m unaware of||

||So I’m stumped on why Cheater is giving Verso and Maelle additional turns, but not Sciel, and only for her first turn (she gets additional turns from Cheater after that first turn)||

||It’s possible that it’s just genuinely a bug, but I’m really hoping it’s not that and is instead some interaction I’m overlooking that I can actively fix||

[wheat tulip]

I think it is a bug yeah

||the picto shouldnt change that or do you use a gradient attack at the first attack with sciel? I know it skipped a turn when you have cheater ||

[languid gyro]

||No, I open with one of her regular skills||

[wheat tulip]

Mmh weird ...

Feels like a bug ngl😭

[pallid gull]

later game mechanic, p5 and p2 ||https://xcancel.com/junie_junette/status/1923825543700521302 ||

||wait... they're cute how the fawk do i get in the middle of that though||

also i should not be looking up art without having finished the game lmao

i didn't get spoiled on anything but i keep forgetting that i'm still in the middle of it

[wheat tulip]

Yeah you are playing with fire nfkfj

[fringe walrus]

....................

[languid gyro]

Oh...it worked just fine now, in the first battle I did since booting up the game today, despite not working at all yesterday

Guess it really was a bug and I just needed to turn it off and on again 💀

[wheat tulip]

At least it works now!!

[languid gyro]

...wait it didn't work in the second battle 💀

help

[wheat tulip]

[languid gyro]

literally nothing about my setup changed between this one and the last one what is going onnn

[wheat tulip]

Maybe its rng?

[languid gyro]

But there's no reason it should be RNG!

[fringe walrus]

yall... || i don't want anyone else to die ||

[languid gyro]

As far as I understand from the picto descriptions and how pictos/luminas have worked in the game thus far, it should be 100% consistent every time

[green escarp]

||at least you've come to terms. The denial stage of grief lasted a long time for a few people I've watched play ||

[fringe walrus]

|| the fact that verso took all of his weapons finalized it for me ||

[pallid gull]

that was me

||i was like "haha he's the protagonist he can't die" even after he died and what finalized it for me was the relationship mechanic because i was like FUCK gustave didn't have that||

[languid gyro]

It was about the same for me 😭

[green escarp]

On the bright side, Lorie's at a very cool part of the game

[languid gyro]

That's the whole game tbh

[green escarp]

I mean, you're not wrong lol

But specifically:
[Act 2 Boss]: ||Dualliste is such a great Boss. Also welcome to phase 2 Lorie! Enjoy the Pontiff Sulyvahn flashbacks ||

[fringe walrus]

wait can i read

[green escarp]

Yes you can

[languid gyro]

||Yeah, a standout for sure ❤️ 💜 ||

[fringe walrus]

WAIT

OH MY GOD

bruh

|| when i said he looked like a souls boss i forgot that he LITERALLY looks like a souls boss LMAOOOO that's why he looked so familiar ||

[green escarp]

||I was trying to be like "Hey Lorie recgonize the swords!" during stream but you were very focused mode lmao||

But that was also my exact reaction when I saw that phase lol

[fringe walrus]

[green escarp]

I was like "....WAIT"

its all so good

[fringe walrus]

this game has been making me miss souls games so bad

elden ring, i'm coming for u this year

[languid gyro]

||It's so funny looking over and just seeing all the shields stacked on her at the start of each battle (also girl I'm so sorry that your luminas have you looking like this 😭 sacrificing aesthetic for big numbers you hate to see it)||

[wheat tulip]

Who the fuck is this-

I dont even recognize them help

[languid gyro]

||That's the girl who just did 166 mil damage on her own have some respect smh||

[wheat tulip]

||ITS MAELLE??? WTF||

[languid gyro]

||She's been through a lot don't be mean 😭 ||

[wheat tulip]

Gkegkfkxkf

||does being under inversion helps her doing more damage?||

[languid gyro]

Also not that it matters, but my girl is officially celebrating the milestone of equipping exactly one full page's worth of luminas 🎊 [post Act 2 spoilers]

[wheat tulip]

Oooh i see

[wheat tulip]

How many luminas is that-

[languid gyro]

39 (13 rows of 3); or technically 3 Pictos + 36 Luminas

[wheat tulip]

Oh no I mean how many points

[languid gyro]

Oh whoops I closed the game already bc gonna eat dinner, but it's somewhere between 300-400

I have her and [P5] ||Verso|| both in the 300-400 range, and then every single other member of my party has < 100 lmao

[wheat tulip]

Ooh i see

||im grinding luminas color rn because i dont have enough😭 and i didnt got the 100 from blanche so🤡||

[languid gyro]

Honestly the game's been incredibly generous with colours even with zero grinding I think

I've never felt short of lumina, and I still have a bunch unused (and have a bunch to cash in from [Act 1] ||the Gestral in the village that collects journals||)

[wheat tulip]

[languid gyro]

[Post Act 2 optional overworld boss] ||I don't wanna pull the trigger I wanna hear the song 😭 ||

||A perfect chroma catalyst....it's so over....||

||Also wow what a neat picto||

man some of these lategame enemies are absurd lmao

||Verso: "That's payback for eating me so many times" omggg 💀 ||

||Still in awe at the absurd power spike||

[green escarp]

||https://youtu.be/pDxQEj23XoM?si=C1QVQb_WMgB1RXZd||

[languid gyro]

||Damn and this is with her losing damage because I unequipped one of her damage boosting pictos to level the new one 💀 ||

[wheat tulip]

Wtf

[green escarp]

||Maelle the walking nuke|| lmao

[languid gyro]

Can you believe this is after a double nerf

Imagine what things were like at 1.0

[green escarp]

I told ya that skill was still absurd, lol

[wheat tulip]

I really need to search all the pictos i missed

[vivid peak]

Oh Sarahkey streamed this game

[green escarp]

I basically don't use it at this point unless there's an enemy I just really despise, but even then I have another nuke skill I prefer over it since it takes a bit more work to build up

[languid gyro]

Unfortunately my setup is extremely "kill or be killed" 💀 I have a bunch of stuff equipped that lowers my HP or makes me take more damage in order to further boost damage, so if I don't burst things down turn 1 my team is made of paper and crumbles immediately lmao (unless I just parry everything ofc)

[green escarp]

she's finished it though (main story anyway) so I wouldn't go looking up vods unless you just don't care for spoilers

[wheat tulip]

||sadly i need a big nuke because of that bitch of simon||

||im guessing 50 millions isnt enough to one shot him ||

[green escarp]

also I cackle because Sarah and Lorie have/had been getting stuck on the exact same spots and I once again hold up the "they're the same picture" meme

[wheat tulip]

And no ||i dont want to struggle against him i just want his journal||

[green escarp]

||actually he has about 50 million HP so that would kill him||

[wheat tulip]

...||in which phase||

[languid gyro]

Just got to ||White Sands|| and oh my god ||the French jumpscare||

[green escarp]

||phase 2||

[wheat tulip]

Héhéhé

[wheat tulip]

||i saw theres a 3rd tho??||

[green escarp]

||3rd triggers when his health hits 30% so he does not get another health bar||

[wheat tulip]

Oooh ||so if i one shot his 2nd phase i dont have the third?||

[green escarp]

Yup

[wheat tulip]

Understood !! Maybe ill try it again tomorrow then

[green escarp]

also if you think that's scary Rain, ||in NG+ he has over 101.3 million HP||

but by that point you're gonna be so stupid powerful (or you really should be) its not a big deal lol

[languid gyro]

[Act 1 pictos] ||Okay walking into a group of low level enemies and immediately blowing them up with Auto-Death -> Death Bomb is objectively hilarious||

[languid gyro]

||So what I'm hearing is my Maelle as she is rn still one-shots him ||

[wheat tulip]

Lmao you surestimate me but thank you!!

[green escarp]

I mean I'm speaking generally, I don't even expect you to do NG+

[green escarp]

Basically, lol

[wheat tulip]

Maybe ill do it for the achievement ? Idk

[languid gyro]

||I do think this is a shame though; I'd much rather bosses have "break bars" where they can't go under a certain HP threshold from a single hit (or have multiple HP bars) because I do think it'd be better to have the fight go on longer than one attack||

||(Also probably shouldn't have clicked but Simon is the one boss I've already known about for a while (no clue who he is or what he looks like though) because I see his name pop up everywhere online. It's like how everyone and their mom heard of Malenia Elden Ring long before getting to her themselves)||

[vivid peak]

overestimate lol franglais rain

[green escarp]

Well there's no achievement for it itself. You mostly try to get everything you missed the first time around, like for example stuff you can only get in the prologue thats used later for achievements

[vivid peak]

Oh yeah i won't be until I'm done

[green escarp]

Or if you missed ||that fucking mime|| in the prologue

[languid gyro]

I actually have not looked up a list of achievements (will wait till I'm about to clear the game) but hoping ||"collect all cosmetics" is not one of them bc I'm pretty sure I skipped some Gustave outfits and now it's too late 💀 ||

[wheat tulip]

Fuck it!! We are in e33 thread anyway!!

[wheat tulip]

I got it right away

[green escarp]

||Thankfully that is not one of them lol. But there is one for completing all the Gestral beach games||

[wheat tulip]

I just missed ||the sex sound and the outfit||

[wheat tulip]

FUUUCK

Gonna scream

[green escarp]

Have fun! xD

[wheat tulip]

||the volley one ||

[languid gyro]

Ye already got that one

[green escarp]

Also Rain, ||did you get the old key from the prologue?||

[wheat tulip]

Yup

||so i got the journal in old lumière already||

[green escarp]

Ok you're good then lol because the journal achivement is literally impossible without it

as I learned waaaay too late

[wheat tulip]

Oh no😭

[green escarp]

so that was one of the things I had to make sure of in NG+

I know I posted this already but fuck it, I'm proud of this and I don't do this for just any game

Also yeah I haven't played in a few days, needed to force myself to take a breather lol. Kinda went HAM for a bit there

I wish Steam's achievement system was fancier like the PS Trophies

[wheat tulip]

Its still there i guess lmao

[languid gyro]

[Post Act 2 journal] ||god this makes me so upset still... knowing that Verso was mistrusted and killed (or at least an attempt was made) by people he trusted 🥲 hurts especially knowing Julie was special to Verso, from Esquie mentioning her by name to him back at the beginning of Act 2 camp||

||Oh…..just found the next journal right next to that one……||

||oh I am unwell...........||

|| 😭 😭 😭 ||

||oh my god?? the colors of the canvas atelier 👀 ||

|| 🥲 ||

[wheat tulip]

Wait what we can enter now?

[languid gyro]

You have to unlock it

[wheat tulip]

Huuh where is the ||door to it?||

[languid gyro]

||The very very back of the main hall; the locked golden door that's sorta in a hallway on its own in the manor||

[wheat tulip]

Yeah ||we couldnt enter it at all i tried gkfkxkf we can now since we are in act 3?||

[languid gyro]

You need to find a way to unlock it first, but yes

[wheat tulip]

Mmh puzzle time i see

[green escarp]

Gotta explore more :)

[wheat tulip]

[languid gyro]

[Post Act 2 camp] ||amazing||

||not the way he instantly died but ended the fight as soon as we got in 😭 ||

||sexiest too||

|| 😭 ❤️ 😭 ||

||Also let's gooooo 🎊 ||

Unfortunately must sleep 😭 more tomorrow

[pallid gull]

let the game open in the background...

tabbed back in i'm in combat

where the fuck did i stop last time that i immediately got attacked

still don't know if i should finish game today i think i'll just strip everyone of their skills, luminas and pictos and actually build them right and then go from there

so many luminas i'm overwhelmed

[wheat tulip]

Felt aiden😭

[pallid gull]

putting confident fighter on p5 ||verso||

[wheat tulip]

Is it || the damage boost but no heal allowed?||

[pallid gull]

yes

[languid gyro]

Tbh I put the no-heal luminas just on everyone; it feels like they help more than harm overall

[pallid gull]

if im doing this i should also probably ||equip him with the weapon that starts on S rank but no heal or shields are allowed||

i feel like at this point i'm more prone to getting one shot anyway so why not 😭

[languid gyro]

Yeah that was mostly my thing; lategame becomes much more about one-shotting or getting one-shot, especially if you're on Expert, so minor defense or healing boosts barely matter

That's been my experience, anyways

[wheat tulip]

Mmh i see

||do yall know how to change versos build to become a gradiant battery?||

[pallid gull]

no idea i'm just rawdogging it all

i'm also realizing that in my confusion they have not learned nearly enough pictos as i thought they did, a lot of unlearned ones piled up and i wasn't even aware because of my short term memory... so i'm gonna beat up some enemies and try and learn some more

[wheat tulip]

Oh thats right i need to go buy the pictos i didnt yet

[languid gyro]

||If your goal is just building gradient and nothing else... Gradient Break is fantastic because Verso is a very strong and consistent breaker. This also comes with Charging Stun if you have it since when he breaks an enemy one turn they're stunned the next. Gradient is also charged based on how much AP you spend, so you want to consistently have him throwing out high AP skills, like Phantom Stars, which is easier with the S-rank discount (though I'd have to actually check and see if lowering the cost at S-rank also reduces the gradient buildup, but I do not believe it does), along with ways to easily replenish AP consistently, like Energising Turn, Energy Master, Rewarding Mark, Energising Burn, etc. He also can consistently mark enemies, either with Marking Shot or Defiant Strike, or with Marking Shot luminas and free aim spam, or simply with Marking Break, continuing to add to his Breaking strengths.||

Truthfully though I've been using ||Gradient much less in general ever since getting Cheater because the extra free turn conflicts with Cheater's and so is worth less to me overall||

[languid gyro]

This also pairs well with ||either an ally starting off with Auto-Death + Breaking Death and/or a high Break Damage party member (this is debatably one of Monoco's specialties actually)|| for more consistency, though of course it's important to keep the overall team synergy in mind

[languid gyro]

Tbh some of my early overleveling resulted from my compulsive need to max out every new picto I get and do it immedately, so sometimes I'd get a new picto, immediately realize I want to learn it but don't necessarily want it equipped right now, so to get rid of it I just run around the overworld real quick and kill off 4 weak overworld packs (or if I'm in an area I spam rest at a flag near a group) to immediately learn then replace it

So I'd do some extra fighting for the simple purpose of learning new pictos as soon as possible

[pallid gull]

yeah, i think i just let them pile up cause i was like i'll deal with this later (the later in question is now )

[languid gyro]

I've sorta learned to force myself into doing things immediately because I know my ADHD brain well enough to know that if I put it off till "later" it just does not happen for a very long time, if ever 🥲

(This applies to much more than videogames ofc)

[wheat tulip]

Trew

[languid gyro]

Honestly way before lategame even; I'm watching Lorie's most recent vod rn and ||she's fighting Chromatic Luster who's doing over 2k damage per hit when her team's max HP is anywhere from 500ish to 1000ish so like no amount of healing makes any difference asldkjdalkja. She started a round with everyone at 1 HP and like her survivability is not actually functionally any lower than when they were at full 💀 ||

[pallid gull]

yeah, honestly the only thing that comes in handy after a certain point is just revives because healing stops mattering once everything one shots you

[languid gyro]

When there are so many situations like that, you kinda may as well just go all-in and shit like "do 30% more damage but no healing", "do 50% more damage but you're inversed", "50% more crit and auto-Powerful at low HP", "do more damage at low HP", etc. because at first glance they look like they're powerful luminas but with significant downsides, but actually functionally they're simply powerful luminas with no downsides lmao

[languid gyro]

Tbh this has been me all-game the more I think about it, with stuff like ||Chromatic Lancelier|| in Meadows or the pink Abbussy 🐑

I've pretty much just always been getting one-shot in the fights that matter anyways, from day 1

[pallid gull]

yeah yeah

[pallid gull]

okay this is fun p5 ||verso|| is just one shotting things with this build i gave him second chance too so he won't rely on healing but at least he can get revived

[languid gyro]

Always feels good to put together a strong build ❤️

Unrelated but I was thinking about game balance a bit and how ||Sciel and Lune really got the short end of the stick in terms of the lategame first turn burst meta 🥲 everyone else has some sort of “super” state and at least one weapon or other method of entering it immediately at start (Maelle with Virtuoso Stance, Verso with S-rank, and Monoco with Almighty Mask, though Monoco’s is a def a fair bit weaker than the other two), but Sciel has no weapon that starts her immediately in Twilight, which I think would help her immensely, and Lune just has no super state to speak of, which is a big reason she falls off so hard endgame relative to the other hypercarries and how good she herself is in the early/midgame||

In fact in general ||both Sciel and Lune suffer from their kits being designed and balanced with the idea of ramping up (Sciel building Foretell, or stacking cards for a stronger Twilight phase) (Lune building up Stains), which has a nice ebb and flow momentum in earlier parts of the game but just becomes sorta obsolete in the endgame when everything is decided immediately at the start, which heavily incentivizes fast and strong/immediate burst rather than getting stronger over time or a more consistent rise and fall||

One thing I think I would have appreciated to help balance this would be ||some mechanic, or more varied fight structure, in order to encourage other types of builds. For example, if a boss had break bars or multiple HP bars (say, 3 bars of 300k rather than one bar of 900k), or if some fights were just continuous waves of weaker enemies (which then benefits consistent moderate DPS and AP economy more than one-time burst), or a mechanic where a boss starts with a ton of defense/damage reduction buffs stacked but loses stacks either with each hit or with each turn passed (to allow fights to more naturally last longer), just to list a few examples||

||Those are more general but for Lune more specifically, I really think that something that’d benefit her is having elemental typings matter more because one of her main strengths is having such a variety of elements to draw upon. But I found that by and large elemental affinity barely mattered; unless an enemy was outright immune to the element/weapon I was using I’d often just brute force through regardless because even a Maelle doing resisted damage would be outperforming a Lune doing supereffective damage 🥲 this could be anything from changes as small/general as having hitting weakness do more supereffective damage and resistance cut your damage even farther, or more enemies that were straight up immune to some elements rather than just resistant, or some funky boss mechanic like they change their weakness every few turns and during each shift they can only be damaged by a certain element (a mechanic I’ve seen done in other games), or just something to make element matter more because that’s one of Lune’s main strengths and it feels like outside of Act 1 (and barely even then), it’s a strength that doesn’t actually matter much||

This is the kind of shit my brain thinks about on the morning drive to work lmao

[pallid gull]

it's really interesting reading on it because i'm not a huge combat person (like in general i mean, because i do love this game's combat) so i'm like

optional area ||floating cemetery|| < name ||just met chalier and i'm not doing well i refused to kill him but he's mad now||

or at least i think that's the name of the area

[pallid gull]

does anyone know if p5 + later game mechanic ||angel's eyes and second chance stack? like do you get two revives?||

[languid gyro]

same 🤝

[languid gyro]

I can’t test right now but my intuition would guess that ||yes, they stack, and hopefully coded to prioritize consuming Aureole first before Second Chance||

But I don’t know for sure and can’t test rn bc at work, sorry 😭

[languid gyro]

I would consider myself less a “combat” person (though it’s included in the wider umbrella) and more of a “systems/mechanics” person, but yeah it’s definitely a high priority for now

Well, “priority” is wrong. My main priority is still ultimately more story/characters/themes

[pallid gull]

it's okay!! i'll try it out and see

[languid gyro]

But games with systems/mechanics I can really sink into really elevate the work for me and is a huge contributor to my enjoyment of videogames specifically in ways that differ from how I consume other media

It just scratches a particular itch in my brain

[pallid gull]

this weapon is so pretty but it scares me

[languid gyro]

Sending him out to die for science 🫡

[languid gyro]

Interesting that it “scares” you given that it’s the Safety Net weapon lol (also yes very pretty)

Its express purpose is to provide a lifeline in case something goes wrong

Honestly in general she has just really pretty weapons throughout, big fan

[pallid gull]

OH i misread i thought it would freeze me and keep me frozen and i'd still take damage

[languid gyro]

All good!

But yeah the weapon’s passives are there to save/protect you basically

[green escarp]

||If I had a nickel for every time Aiden missed out on a useful picto because he refused to kill a nevron, I'd have 2 nickles. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice ||

[pallid gull]

idc about pictos

[green escarp]

I figured

I just saw a meme opportunity

[pallid gull]

||i don't wanna kill non-hostile nevrons, they're just little guys although im kinda sad that there's no interaction with the tisseur if you don't choose to kill him, i thought that maybe there'd be some dialogue if you kill sirene? but i went back and it just asks me if i wanna kill him again ||

[languid gyro]

Just call me out too while you’re at it then damn ||what picto? And what’s the other one?||

Also tbf ||the game mostly incentivizes not killing them, as seen with the 100 Lumina reward for not killing the white nevrons||

[pallid gull]

lumina

[green escarp]

|| Indeed, though the interesting thing for that one is it doesn't count because he explicitly asks you to kill him||

[languid gyro]

My children must be fed

[pallid gull]

it made me think of some stuff

[green escarp]

||I don't remember the one for the nevron for the cemetary, but the other one was the Tisseur. You get anti charm for it||

[languid gyro]

||I don’t go around just assisting suicide/granting euthanasia whenever it is asked of me actually||

Like sometimes I also will but it’s case by case

[pallid gull]

||there's so many instances where the game is like "death is a mercy in this case" and im like...is it though...is it...can it really apply to someone that sees the world with so much hopelessness... it doesn't feel right to be the one to decide that for them, but i guess that's the point of moments like these, the game wants you to question it and either way you will feel bad||

[green escarp]

||Which is valid. I'm only saying that it doesn't count against the lumina reward from Blanche||

[languid gyro]

Oh that one I did kill but I did not realize it was non-hostile 💀 just kinda walked up immediately bc I thought I was supposed to, like a mandatory midboss before the main of the area

[pallid gull]

also this is unrelated to mechanics nor am i judging anyone that did the opposite im just thinking many thoughts always lmao

[fringe walrus]

Why did I read this

[green escarp]

LORIE

[pallid gull]

you're good though, i don't think it's super spoilery in any way

[green escarp]

Thankfully

[pallid gull]

still don't click the rest

[languid gyro]

It’s definitely a tough line to tread, especially for me because [TW: suicidal ideation] ||though I consider myself much, much better than I was before, when I actively considered suicide, or just wanted things to end, I still feel immense empathy for people who are just… tired and want things to end, especially when I personally am still not sure what choice I’d want made for me in similar circumstances||

[fringe walrus]

Idk why I chose to read that one specifically but man

[pallid gull]

tw: suicidal ideation ||in an extremely similar boat so i understand it perfectly, i basically grew up with ideation and i think in a way it will always be a part of me. so i see this in a very two-sided way. i feel for them very strongly, but i know that granting it is the worst thing i could do for them. the narrative of "it's a mercy when someone is in so much pain" is very very hard to unpack when all the perspectives are taken into account. but i know that it's worth at least trying to reach out to them first, in any way that is possible||

[languid gyro]

||I’m glad you’re still here ❤️ ||

[pallid gull]

and the same goes for you 🩷

this game

[pallid gull]

im so lost idk where im going

[languid gyro]

Me in life tbh

But also yeah ||once flight opens up it’s a little overwhelming how many places you can go||

||Unless you mean in a specific area which is still very valid, esp with no minimap; I was fighting for my life a bit last night trying to find my way around the Endless Night Sanctuary I think it was called?||

I also just unlocked ||underwater diving?? before bed last night so excited to look around for all the little glowy spots when I play today||

[pallid gull]

yeah, it's in a specific area and i'm constantly just

[wheat tulip]

So felt

[wheat tulip]

This one is so ||underwhelming i was expecting something cool but no its just loot||

[languid gyro]

||Oh that’s a shame, was hoping for something more akin to diving in Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald 🥲 still, loot is cool and maybe it’s for the best that I don’t suddenly have an entire new dimension of the massive map to need to explore||

[wheat tulip]

Same 😭

Trew tooo

[green escarp]

||Without elaborating, there is one area that's accessible now due unlocking underwater||

[languid gyro]

Every time I feel like I’m inching closer to the end there’s more things I realize I must do lol

[wheat tulip]

Which one

[wheat tulip]

No but same fkfkfkfi

[green escarp]

You've been there silly

||Renoir's Drafts||

[wheat tulip]

AAAH

Forgot

The ptsd was too strong

[pallid gull]

the way i was the same

||i went there, got my ass kicked, left||

i need to go back since ||monoco needs a skill from there||

[wheat tulip]

||good area to grind xp tho !👍||

[languid gyro]

Shadow, can you give me a rough list of locations that are probably overall tougher than the final story boss / are recommended for postgame exploration, in your opinion?

Or should I just go and do quite literally everything before heading over to ||Old Lumiere||

[wheat tulip]

||gaining 3 millions xp on a mob with 3 luminas color if theres the 20%||

[green escarp]

Im at work so hard to list off the top of my head but,
||Endless Tower, Renoir's Drafts, Flying Manor|| are like the big 3

[pallid gull]

i'm in ||flying manor|| rn

and im so fawkin lost

[wheat tulip]

Wander around you will find something im sure

[languid gyro]

Figured, those were ones I was probably gonna leave for after just off vibes alone, but also ||Chosen Path and Painted Workshop|| on top

[wheat tulip]

Probably why im almost lvl 99 with all my characters...im done with 2 of them

[languid gyro]

Though ||Chosen Path|| is less difficulty related and more that it’d involve me switching around a lot of luminas/pictos, which I don’t feel like doing rn

[pallid gull]

yeah, i did end up finding the second one after a while

[wheat tulip]

Which one is it? My brain is a little bit slow rn😭

[pallid gull]

equipping a party member with a weapon that all enemies are resistant to

[languid gyro]

Two sides of my brain are at war:

• Side A likes leaving the final story boss of a game for last after doing all exploration, especially if I don’t intend to do NG+ right away, because it’s very satisfying to be able to watch credits roll and then put the game down
• Side B likes doing content in “logical” order, part of which means that it feels weird/“wrong” to tackle optional “postgame” superbosses that are harder than the final story area before getting to that story area (especially since that can sap a lot of the narrative tension from said story area)

[green escarp]

There's also I think its called ||Sunless Cliffs|| ?

[languid gyro]

I think I did that one already lol ||that was the big shadow Mime right?||

[green escarp]

Yep yep!

[wheat tulip]

||the bald one lol||

[languid gyro]

But anyways just struggling to figure out how I want to approach tying up the last few areas of the game because the two routes I’m considering are in direct opposition 🥲

[pallid gull]

you know when one of your party members won't die

like yes, you could kill her and end the run but she just won't die so you want to see how far you can go

[wheat tulip]

I dont understand but you got this aiden

[pallid gull]

everyone was dead except lune because for some reason i was parrying everything perfectly with her except for everyone else and i was reviving people and they kept dying but lune just wouldn't and

[wheat tulip]

Ooh

You are against which one rn?

[pallid gull]

i forgot the name

||3 element bosses||

[wheat tulip]

||oh l'évêque ?||

https://fixupx.com/expedition33/status/1925507927260950580?t=LSYqIu9ZJeWtrYWIxMW-WA&s=19 oh btw for the collector edition

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (@expedition33)

Expeditioners,
︀︀
︀︀Earlier this year, our Collector’s Edition sold out way faster than we expected. We know a lot of you missed out, so we’ve spent the time since then putting something together with @Laced_audio.
︀︀
︀︀Presenting: the Monolith Set.
︀︀
︀︀It includes all the physical merch from the Collector’s Edition, just without the base game and downloadable cosmetics. That means the Steelbook case, Monolith music box, and Expedition Journal Artbook are all in there.
︀︀
︀︀We’re able to offer it at a lower price: £99.99 / $119.99. If you're located in France, you'll be able to purchase from @Pixnlove to benefit from lower shipping costs.
︀︀
︀︀Due to the ongoing tariff situation between the US and China, shipping costs to the US will be higher to account for potential charges at delivery, and US customers may incur additional import duty.
︀︀
︀︀To help combat scalpers, we’re also limiting purchases to two per custom…

FixupX · May 22, 2025, 11:03 AM

[pallid gull]

@fringe walrus

[pallid gull]

yes

[green escarp]

"Due to the ongoing tariff..."

Fuck you Mango Mussolini

[wheat tulip]

Yup

https://x.com/Pixnlove/status/1925519043114439166?t=14HeJ09QJYQca_9RIhgLiQ&s=19 ouh preco are out tomorrow for france

Editions Pix'n Love (@Pixnlove)

🔥 A tous les aventuriers d'@expedition33 : @Pixnlove , @SandfallGames et @Kepler_Interact sont heureux de vous donner RDV demain à 15h sur la boutique française Pix'n Love pour l'ouverture des précommandes du coffret Monolith. ⚡️

Infos sur ➡️ https://t.co/3iYVpti4iq

X · May 22, 2025, 11:48 AM

[pallid gull]

terrible time for me to be broke because the shipping would've probably been okay if i would've bought it from france

[wheat tulip]

Idk how it works for the others europeans yeah😭

Shipping in winter it seems

Idk if their site is down but i cant access it kgofkx

[fringe walrus]

Damn I want it but that shipping scares tf out of me

[wheat tulip]

Understandable 😭

[wheat tulip]

Oh i didnt knew that but guillaume broche creator of this game has a youtube channel where he did no hit runs on devil may cry games😭

[hoary nacelle]

https://x.com/expedition33/status/1925507927260950580

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 (@expedition33)

Expeditioners,

Earlier this year, our Collector’s Edition sold out way faster than we expected. We know a lot of you missed out, so we’ve spent the time since then putting something together with @Laced_audio.

Presenting: the Monolith Set.

It includes all the physical merch

X · May 22, 2025, 11:03 AM

this is the english post

on their twitter

[low steppe]

idk how to tag this it's just pretty art but after act 1 i guess
|| https://bsky.app/profile/renlnk.bsky.social/post/3lpl5knvs3c2t ||

ren lnk (@renlnk.bsky.social)

Verso Clair Obscur Expedition 33

#ClairObscur #Verso #E33 #Expedition33 #clairobscurExpedition33

Bluesky · May 20, 2025, 3:31 AM

[pallid gull]

fuck lmao late game spoilers ||someone mentioned act 3 in chat and i got so used to it existing i forgot it's technically a "spoiler"||

[wheat tulip]

I shared it above but thank you!

[wheat tulip]

OMG NO

Im lurking rn so i didnt noticed

[hoary nacelle]

Oh no I know its just that ur one is in French so i wanted to send the English post for us who don't understand french

Sorry I should've clarified djdjdjkska

[wheat tulip]

😭

[hoary nacelle]

Oh shit i dsint scroll up that far LMAO

[wheat tulip]

Dw lmaoo

[hoary nacelle]

Me when I dont back read enough🤡

[wheat tulip]

Honestly it was far

[wheat tulip]

|| sorry for the ping @pallid gull do lorie already knows verso is good at music?||

[pallid gull]

||not yet, i think it's a camp cutscene||

[wheat tulip]

Okay fiou glad i asked jfkfkf

[green escarp]

Not Rain risking getting banned for spoiling

[wheat tulip]

Thats why i checked with aiden!!

[green escarp]

@pallid gull @wheat tulip Lorie Stream Act 2 (Lorie don't read!) ||THE WAY THAT ESQUIE LINE ABOUT COUSINS MADE NO SENSE TO ME AT THE TIME, BUT NOW WE HAVE CONTEXT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA||

[wheat tulip]

||yup ....yup smoking duck emote||

[pallid gull]

||yeahhh 😭 yeah||

[green escarp]

|| 😭 ||

[green escarp]

Ya love to see it

[wheat tulip]

The french invaded everyone

[fringe walrus]

is this... considered a spoiler:

https://bsky.app/profile/lorie.bsky.social/post/3lpsa3tchvc2m

Lorie (@lorie.bsky.social)

beat an extremely hard boss on expert today in expedition 33 on expert thanks to my kingdom hearts towel (iykyk)

▶ Play video

Bluesky · May 22, 2025, 11:05 PM

[wheat tulip]

It...is

😭😭

But i understand you posted it

[fringe walrus]

WAIT WHY

[pallid gull]

hmmm not sure exactly so i guess if people wanna go in without knowing anything, yes? but ||verso was in the promotional material of the game, there's no indication in the clip itself that he replaces gustave, just that he's a companion||

[wheat tulip]

Ooh true

Then its okay

Theres no context

[fringe walrus]

|| yeah i cut out the part where you see the boss so no one knows what boss this is or the area or anything! ||

[wheat tulip]

Thats the only thing i wasnt sure

[fringe walrus]

why'd i spoiler that

[wheat tulip]

Lmao

[pallid gull]

yeah, i think you're good

also i saw you posted it in twitch stories and on mobile it was just zoomed in on nothing and i was like wtf twitch

[wheat tulip]

I didnt know ||he was showed in the trailer||

[fringe walrus]

the way i started having heart palpys thinkin i fawked up bad!!!!

[wheat tulip]

Sorry lorie😭😭

[pallid gull]

character bio and everything, they all have intros

[fringe walrus]

help??? LMAO

[wheat tulip]

Ooh i see

[wheat tulip]

SAME

[fringe walrus]

i think that was the first time i posted a twitch story

WHY IS IT ZOOMED IN LIKE THAT???????

AKSJDKASJDKSA

[wheat tulip]

I saw lorie and notification twitch i was like?? She went live again??

[fringe walrus]

feeling like a boomer this is embarrassing

[wheat tulip]

#millenials

[fringe walrus]

heeeeelp i have no idea how to delete it

[pallid gull]

To delete a story, press the 3 Vertical Dots menu icon on the top-right of your stories, and select Delete.

[fringe walrus]

quitting streaming permanently bc of this

[wheat tulip]

NOOO

[fringe walrus]

there's vertical dots???

[pallid gull]

no idea

[fringe walrus]

it's so over

[pallid gull]

where da fawk are the vertical dots

hold on im a boomer too i guess

[vivid peak]

You’re the bridge across the generations

[pallid gull]

do you have a "my stories" section or something? maybe it's in that menu?

[fringe walrus]

wait there's a my stories section???

[pallid gull]

To delete a story, press the 3 Vertical Dots menu icon on the top-right of your stories, and select Delete.

"of your stories" maybe they just mean individual stories?

[fringe walrus]

let me go to mobile rq

okay the three dots are only on mobile i guess lmaooo

i exploded it

thank you, aiden

[pallid gull]

it's okay, it never happened we unperceive

[low steppe]

no i've been experiencing this too clips have been the same way

[pallid gull]

so clips is weird because you have the option to make a landscape ver and the tiktok format one when you make them so maybe that's what's glitching it out?

i just let the shortform format one look like whatever and focus on the landscape one

[low steppe]

why is that even an option if livestreams are always landscape 😵‍💫 i guess if you stream from ur phone or smth but

[pallid gull]

i think it's to upload them directly on youtube/tiktok

[fringe walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/verso-expedition-33-bonjour-clair-obscur-verso-expedition-33-gif-15921656765277760263

i dont know if i should be looking at gifs

[pallid gull]

i need his baguette so fawkin bad

stop looking 😭

[low steppe]

right but most people format their streams for like landscape/desktop usually some editing is required for vertical readability

[low steppe]

cant read this font thought that said "dominican"

[fringe walrus]

DOMINICAN

verso my dominican king 😍

[pallid gull]

me looking at art despite the fact that i have not finished the game and i could get spoiled

[low steppe]

pls i was looking for refs for fanart and it's like russian roulette

[fringe walrus]

i need to stop looking at stuff methinks

[pallid gull]

he's so beautiful like i gotta see what artists are doing to him

[pallid gull]

you do 😭

[fringe walrus]

next thing i know, i'm gonna see verso with dragon dicks and someone gonna tell me it's an art trend

[pallid gull]

STOP LMAOOOO

if you come across that art trend lmk

outfit spoilers ||VERSO'S SWIMSUIT HAS PHYSICS???||

i need to test this out

[wheat tulip]

PAREIL

[pallid gull]

[wheat tulip]

LMAO

The way i thought it was sylus

[wheat tulip]

IT DOES

[pallid gull]

rain the way i booted up the game and i immediately checked ksdjhfsd

it does indeed

i would like to thank the french...

[wheat tulip]

I need to fucking beat that fucking ||gestral bitch(beach)||

[languid gyro]

[Post Act 2 spoilers] ||Unfortunately we see exactly what Artists are doing to him and it’s not fun 🥲 ||

[wheat tulip]

Wait what

[pallid gull]

||it could've been porn instead we get even more of him being tormented||

[languid gyro]

||The Dessendre family, Rain 💀 they’re Painters/Artists||

[pallid gull]

OH

[wheat tulip]

OH DAMN

[pallid gull]

||i thought you actually meant like what artists are doing to him for real bc they like to torment him too ||

[wheat tulip]

||its really artists kink huh||

[languid gyro]

||LOL yeah I was trying to make a meta joke sorry it wasn’t clear 😭 ||

[wheat tulip]

It was really good

[languid gyro]

@wheat tulip can you confirm 👀 https://www.reddit.com/r/expedition33/s/fw5thHrmRC

[wheat tulip]

Yup i talked about it in lories stream when she encountered it!

[languid gyro]

I must have missed that, but that’s neat!

[vivid peak]

I love how French it is

Pétanque is like bocce from what I recall

[pallid gull]

outfit spoilers but i need to change this because the horrors do not go well with this

[wheat tulip]

You want to fuck ||the dualliste i dont think that would scare you!!||

[pallid gull]

i just have taste

[wheat tulip]

Trew

[pallid gull]

i managed to zoom in a lot accidentally and ||verso has a lot of freckles on his back that's cute ||

i kinda wanna do that with all of their models just to see the details

now im obsessing and trying to see if they have the models on their website

this game is making me go thru it

[wheat tulip]

[low steppe]

planeshift candles gonna release an e33 collection 👁️👃👁️

[wheat tulip]

Omg it becomes so popular im happy for the game

[fringe walrus]

Oooooh new @olive olive video

https://youtu.be/3-4Qi2j0umk

[fringe walrus]

I fear I need them all

[languid gyro]

Marshmallow Esquie 🥺

[green escarp]

Did they have to make them the most annoying enemies in the game though? 💀
||Especially the green ones you can only kill with free aim? Fuck them in particular||

[low steppe]

they've done dragon age ones but im so sensitive to synthetic fragrance

[fringe walrus]

Pige can you link them pwease

[languid gyro]

I thought they were fine? Nothing about their encounters particularly stuck out to me much more than other enemies in terms of annoyance/difficulty

[pallid gull]

bergamot..... that's what astarion smells like too

[languid gyro]

I'm actually trying to think now of what enemy or enemies I would actually consider "most annoying"

[languid gyro]

Aiden I think you might have a scent type...

[low steppe]

they're not live yet i dont think! they were just promoting but here's their site!
https://www.planeshiftcandles.com/

[languid gyro]

it's the ||traumatized immortal pheromones||

[fringe walrus]

Bergamot smells SO good! I can understand why it’s linked with old ppl though bc earl grey or smthn

[languid gyro]

Are those all the available candles, Pige? Rather, I'm wondering if you intentionally only showed characters that Lorie's met and there's more, or if that was all anyways

[low steppe]

on socials it looks like it's just those six!

[olive olive]

[green escarp]

Esquie having marshmallow, lol

[low steppe]

https://bsky.app/profile/planeshiftcandles.bsky.social

Bluesky

[green escarp]

These people Expedition 33

Also hello Jesse

[low steppe]

i love earl grey but i guess i love old men too so

[languid gyro]

[Act 2 camp] ||him having mulled wine too is so funny||

Also [P6] ||I'm not sure Monoco's smell would necessarily be a pleasant one but it is a bit of a shame he's left out||

[green escarp]

||I can imagine the...sole reason for that||

:D

[languid gyro]

Listening to all the Xenoblade quotes in Lorie's vod rn at camp and ||it's probably for the best it didn't happen, but now I'm imagining a message coming in with an "It seems like relations have changed!" at the end of Act 1 💀 ||

[vivid peak]

Omg amphy I spat out my water

||hear that sciel? Gustave wants something a bit meatier||

[low steppe]

wait i lied lorie don't look

[languid gyro]

OH ||they did have him!||

[pallid gull]

||yess i was gonna say, something woodsy or wintery would def suit him||

[low steppe]

wait i just noticed gustave and maelle share the woodsmoke scent

[languid gyro]

aiden you say the damndest things sometimes (positive) and make me laugh out of nowhere

also real and true 🤝

[wheat tulip]

This one is done ||next is the volley one💀im gonna suffer|| spoiler outfit and act 2

[fringe walrus]

SAME

[wheat tulip]

Old men wow

[languid gyro]

[Post Act 2] ||mostly spoilered for damage cap but not really anything significant; would've been real nice to have this picto for the Chromatic whatever tf lamp guy in Frozen Hearts that brings everyone's max HP to 1 💀 ||

[wheat tulip]

Omg ||volley mini game ||done in 20 minutes im a gamer

[languid gyro]

Nice!

Also...interesting...regarding the bug (?) I talked about earlier this week: ||I set my newly acquired 'Shortcut' picto on Sciel just to learn it, and interestingly, she is now getting a second turn at the start when she wasn't before||

Some more interesting notes: ||Sciel's [Intervention] is able to manipulate turn order such that if she drags forward a character who already has Cheater (and thus would go twice in a row), with Intervention they are now able to go 3 times in a row, which has a lot of interesting implications for teambuilding||

[wheat tulip]

Huh what this one does again ?

[languid gyro]

||Go again when at low health||

[wheat tulip]

Oh wow thats crazy

[languid gyro]

So now, instead of my original rotation of ||Sciel -> Verso x2 -> Maelle x2||, I can now do ||Sciel x2 -> Verso x3 -> Maelle x2|| as my opener

||For single-target, this makes little difference, since all I need Verso to do is Perfect Break (immediate S-rank + activating 'on break' luminas such as 'Marking Break' + give Maelle bonus damage from hitting a stunned target) + proc Greater Defenceless (which I do with a basic attack lumina), but for multitarget, this is significant since now I can do Perfect Break -> Phantom Stars (to break the other enemies) -> Defenceless or Perfect Break -> proc Defenceless on two enemies, or any number of other setup options||

||Alternatively, this allows me to take off the SOS Powerful lumina I have on Maelle and instead use Sciel's double turn to Fortune's Fury + All Set to buff the whole team, instead of just Maelle getting buffed||

And I'm sure there are other potential new combos opened up to me now too; these are just some of the immediate off-the-brain thoughts

[wheat tulip]

Thats a lot-

[languid gyro]

Sorry my brain just automatically goes into overdrive sometimes

The minute I get a new character, or new weapon, or new picto/lumina (or equivalents in other games) my brain immediately goes a thousand miles an hour thinking of all the teambuilding/setup possibilities

[wheat tulip]

Thats super cool but i cant follow😭

[languid gyro]

You don't have to! I'm just word vomitting because I'm excited and because it helps organize my thoughts to type it out!

[wheat tulip]

Oh i see !

[languid gyro]

Also unrelated but [Post Act 2 area/boss] ||literally just Chromatic Creation lol (cool design though)||

[wheat tulip]

Oh you are there

||good area to xp grind ||

||3 more journal entries and im done lets goo||

[languid gyro]

I don't intend to intentionally grind EXP till I beat the game, any EXP I get along the way is incidental lol

but good to know

my tentative plan ||since I'm aware there's a superboss here, is to explore the area until I get to the last flag (I'm assuming there'd be one right before the boss fight anyways, just game design 101, but maybe I'm proven wrong lol) and then back out to explore other places||

[wheat tulip]

Even tho ||i feel like you are gonna one shot it😭||

||only one gestral beach left fiou||

[languid gyro]

||Maybe! But it still feels appropriate to leave the postgame superboss for last, even if just for vibes/flavor||

[wheat tulip]

I keep ||doing 39s , WANT TO SCREAM||

🤡

||finished all of the mini games and bless my eyes🙏 || after act 2 spoiler

[keen thunder]

Act 3 spoilers but I had to make a meme that represents my late game gameplay

[languid gyro]

[Act 2] ||every time I look at the lumina screen I feel slightly bad about how lopsided it all is 😭 ||

||It's starting to get to a point where I'm wondering if I should abandon my current team roles of Sciel [Support] / Verso [Support] / Maelle [DPS] and switch to Sciel [Support] / Verso [DPS] / Maelle [DPS]||

||I think just with damage multipliers being what they are, it's still higher burst to stick to Verso equipping Sireso and focusing on boosting Maelle's damage, but I've invested enough into Verso at this point that the difference is definitely shrinking||

[vivid peak]

Not sure how to spoiler this besides p3 I guess everyone is ahead of me anyway
||I never thought about maelle’s skill Stendhal before - is it named after the syndrome? Or the writer ||

[languid gyro]

||I would guess the writer, though I do believe the syndrome was also named after the writer anyways||

[pallid gull]

p5 but wondering if this stacks with cheater?

it probably should

there was picto that gave you another turn, right?

there are so many builds i could do for him im overwhelmed

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[languid gyro]

Unfortunately no; the game for the most part only allows up to two “turns” per turn

It’s also why ||I’ve mostly stopped using Gradient Attacks since getting Cheater, since it just eats up the extra turn||

So far I’ve only found two exceptions to this, and I admit that I don’t fully understand the internal mechanics well enough to adequately explain why these exceptions work (assuming the interactions are intended and not a bug)

1. ||If you use Sciel’s [Intervention] on a character with Cheater equipped, they get to go a total of 3 times in a row instead of the usual 2 (but not 4, so it’d seem the Intervention turn is a separate instance that does not grant an additional Cheater proc)||

[languid gyro]

||This is also if the character was about to go next anyways (hence the “in a row”; I’ll test later with a character who wasn’t originally next and thus skips the line (my guess would be that they get one turn, regardless of Cheater, but we’ll see)||

2. ||I had been running into a weird interaction where Sciel was NOT getting two turns at the start of battle even though everyone else was, and my guess is that there’s some shenanigan tied up in the Auto-Death + Second Chance + Revive Paradox combo I’m running with her that’s messing with the Cheater turn. However, that’s been fixed ever since having those 3 luminas equipped plus Shortcut, even though I would not have expected Shortcut to stack in any way with Cheater (only had it equipped bc I slapped it on randomly on her to learn the new picto)||

I have not yet done extensive enough testing to determine if ||she would still get two turns at the start if I de-equipped Cheater and just ran with Auto-Death + Second Chance + Revive Paradox + Shortcut, though of course this only applies to turn 1 and she wouldn’t get the second turns after||

If the above walls are too long, the tldr is:

• ||Cheater typically does not stack with other sources of “extra turns” (Dualiso, Gradient Attacks, etc.)||
• ||Sciel’s Intervention doesn’t seem to grant two Cheater procs in a row (but can give 3 actions in a row if used on a Cheater character who was going next naturally)||
• ||There’s some weird interaction with Cheater + Shortcut in auto-death/revive setups that I’m observing but don’t yet fully understand||

[pallid gull]

i see i see good to know

thank you 🙂‍↕️

[pallid gull]

optional area and optional boss, later story spoilers also ||THIS CLEA BOSS WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON 🫨 ||

[wheat tulip]

Yesss ||its going crazy lmao good luck ||

[pallid gull]

||pls dont even know how im gonna be able to outdamage all the healing she does, i guess it's a parry only type of boss, i'm gonna be here for a few days lmao||

[wheat tulip]

You can do it!!

[wheat tulip]

Regarding the artbooks !

Insane having already 2 artbooks

[green escarp]

|| ||

[wheat tulip]

||just found out i missed an optional boss again ||

[wheat tulip]

I went to the place shadow said in stream yesterday and ||THATS FUCKING CLEA WTF || spoiler after act 2

[wheat tulip]

Lets go ||got expedition 49 journal only two to get noow||

||I miss one music disk ||

[green escarp]

||The amount of times I was trying to guide Lorie back to that spot to have her talk to her as Maelle so she could get some neat story/lore hints and she just wouldn't bite ||

[wheat tulip]

||Honestly glad she didnt and we can always wait until after the end of act 2 where it would hit harder||

||from what ive seen with a guide the only one disk i dont have is a seconf disk for lumière ?||

[green escarp]

||She's not gonna go back there after act 2...||

[wheat tulip]

Maybe !

[green escarp]

||I think that one is in Lumiere act 3, so the final story area||

[wheat tulip]

Yeah it was saying that as well

||so like the expedition 60 journal im gonna wait until finishing thoses for the achievements||

[wheat tulip]

Only p2 ||left to get to lvl 99 aah||

[wheat tulip]

||OMG I GOT HIM LETS GOOO FINALLY 😭😭 || After act 2 spoiler

[pallid gull]

optional boss, late into the game ||finally learning clea's patterns only for her to add a new moveset hate this stupid baka life||

[wheat tulip]

Did you just said ||stupid baka life ?😭😭||

[pallid gull]

yes

i like that you spoilered that like it's a spoiler jksdhfdjsk

[wheat tulip]

It does... in a sense?

And to protect your way of gaming 🙂‍↕️

5 achievement left and i can platine the game lets go

[hoary nacelle]

Post act 2 optional area || the Fountain || < area name || HOLY SHIT 100 COLOURS OF LUMINA?? ||

[green escarp]

When you wanna gush about a spoiler but only Rain's fully experienced it so far and he wouldn't appreciate the references anyway 🙃

[wheat tulip]

Which one?

Lets go only 4 achievement left to dooo

[green escarp]

||Simon. Grats on beating him btw||

[wheat tulip]

Oooh ||yeah im sorry i loved the ost but im TRAUMATISED||

And thank youu

[green escarp]

||Well that and he's a massive reference to Dark Souls||

[wheat tulip]

||of course he is ugh thats why hes so strong😭||

||at least i got all the trophies i needed before finishing the game only need to find the expedition 60 journal and the song in the last area and have the end to finish and got the platine trophy||

[green escarp]

Look at you going for 100%. Who says you're not a gamer

[pallid gull]

i have a question, if we want to start a new game, does it override our other save?

cause i'm not sure how save slots work with the way the save function is

[green escarp]

As in new new game or new game plus?

[wheat tulip]

||yeah i forgot to do the lune one with spending her chroma 4 turns in a row so i did it now😭 i really dont use her ckfkgkr||

[pallid gull]

uhhh both (?)

[green escarp]

IIRC there are 20 or so autosave slots that eventually all get overwritten so you'd basically have to keep track manually how many times you see the saving prompt

[pallid gull]

fawk

thank u

[green escarp]

This is not a "go back to a save 60 hours ago" friendly kinda game lol

[pallid gull]

i've really been considering doing a challenge run, i've been itching to but also that's for future me when i finish the game... one day

[green escarp]

Hoping to see the Aiden Essay on the finished game one day

As well as from everyone else. I look forward to the yaps.

I have no one to talk to about things until y'all do 🥲

I'm mostly being dramatic lol but it is the downside to being one of the first ones to finish. Gotta sit on my hands xD

Mira finished but I haven't seen her in awhile so I'm imagining she is sorting through many feelings still

Oh Aiden, something I can talk to you about though since you're at a certain boss fight!

||So if you've been listening to Clea's boss theme, her leitmotif is present in several other music tracks in the game. Now pair this with her connection to the Nevrons. Also François' theme has elements of her theme too, and when you remember that she used to play with him and sing and... ||

This knowledge has been haunting me for weeks now

[pallid gull]

||that is so cool and sad, this family needs group therapy oh my god ||

[wheat tulip]

Ill probably finish it tomorrow i think

[vivid peak]

Because French or baby

[wheat tulip]

....side eying you rn

[hoary nacelle]

I've been working my way through optional content so I think ill probably finish the game next week

[pallid gull]

later game story stuff ||put maelle in clea's hairstyle and it's cute as hell but i feel so weird. like verso looks good in gustave's hairstyle and renoir's outfit... same with renoir's hairstyle but i'm like 😭 idk if i want them to wear the same things as the family members that inflicted a bunch of trauma upon them feels a lil weird||

[green escarp]

LOL. More the reference would be lost on someone who's not into the source material

[wheat tulip]

I wonder if i got all of the optionals bosses tho 🤷‍♂️

[hoary nacelle]

I have a note in my note apps where I note down all the areas I've been to and whether I've fully explored them or not lmaooo

[wheat tulip]

I should have done that... my memory is bad

[pallid gull]

that's such a good idea, i should've done the same... now idk where i've been and where i haven't

[hoary nacelle]

Yeah it's been really useful, cause I knew it wouldn't forgotten if I didn't do thst lmaoo

I split it up into sections as well so it's organised 😌

[wheat tulip]

I went again to all the areas to check if i missed something 😭

[vivid peak]

How many hours do you have in the game now

[wheat tulip]

I think i still need to ||fight a chromatic in the sadness part of visage island ...||

[green escarp]

Blossom big braining. Also I love the Maelle pfp

[hoary nacelle]

Love my girl maelle saur much

[wheat tulip]

Ps5 says 72 hours 💀

[hoary nacelle]

I'm at 47 hours rn i thinkkk

[languid gyro]

[Act 2 3rd area and final area] ||Watching a streamer go through the first Renoir fight and there's so much I missed in my run because he just died immediately on my run 😭 the music being an instrumental/abbreviated version of his true end-of-Act BGM... his in-battle lines (both the meaningful character ones but also the Dad ones like "I'm not angry, just disappointed" and "You're tearing this family apart" 😭 )... the Visages masks he summons for one of his attacks... good stuff||

[wheat tulip]

Only lune left to get to ||lvl 99 shes lvl 95 en😭||

[vivid peak]

[green escarp]

...119

[languid gyro]

why is that spoiler tagged lol

[wheat tulip]

Idk anymore what is spoiler!!

[vivid peak]

I haven’t had a chance to play for a few days but I’m hoping to this weekend

[languid gyro]

||so true bestie||

[vivid peak]

Maybe Rain loves Gatekeeping

[languid gyro]

The French would never

[wheat tulip]

I would but thats not it for that

[green escarp]

Crying, lmao

[wheat tulip]

Joues et tu sauras

[vivid peak]

Not helpful

[wheat tulip]

🤷‍♂️

[pallid gull]

wtf

why do i have 119 hours

i mean i guess it makes sense but damn i haven't even finished

[vivid peak]

King shit

[wheat tulip]

Didnt you went 3 days on a boss?

[green escarp]

Omg you have the same as me and I've done 2 playthroughs lmao

[pallid gull]

yeah... several days on some bosses lmao

[hoary nacelle]

Cuz ur a gamer !!!

[wheat tulip]

Thats one of the slowest run i saw lmao but thats a good thing you take your time!

Aiden ||did you do the eternal tower?||

[pallid gull]

yes but not all of it

[green escarp]

Damn I gotta get back to playing can't let Aiden beat me

[wheat tulip]

Lmaoo

[languid gyro]

I'm at 85 hours rn and also not game y'all are speedsters lol

[wheat tulip]

Where are you at? If you remember of course😭

[languid gyro]

(but also a decent chunk of that is probably spent in the lumina menu screen tbh)

[green escarp]

Ok but your theory crafting essays are fun reads

[pallid gull]

||stage 5 somewhere i think... probably fighting an aberration? that's why i stopped, i didn't recognize the patterns so i was like i gotta do something else lol||

[languid gyro]

more thoughts [end of Act 2] ||reading this entry again after really understanding the meaning and weight behind it.........||

[wheat tulip]

Oh i see 😭😭you can do it!!

[wheat tulip]

Oh interesting they translated like that in english

[languid gyro]

Idk context and don't wanna click to find out but you got this, aiden! 🫡

||It's a little rough how much of the last leg of the game is super open ended so it's hard to tell if anything is safe to click on or not because it's just a matter of whether you've gone to the same optional accessible areas as the other person has||

[wheat tulip]

Truly...

[pallid gull]

indeed

[green escarp]

On another note, the collector edition stuff preorder window is open

But....I don't think I can bring myself to spend

[hoary nacelle]

Oh i wanted to share that (post act 2 spoilers I'd say i think) || i managed to hit over 1 million dmg with maelle in 1 hit and I was so shocked when it happened lmaoo ||

[green escarp]

The stuff is neat but I need to save money

[wheat tulip]

Understandable with the US situation

[wheat tulip]

Congrats blossom !!

[green escarp]

Yeah that too. Thanks to President Dickhead

[languid gyro]

I'm a little scared to even look at the post-tariff prices 💀

[wheat tulip]

Ive heard the french site for preorder crashed with everyone trying to get it kgofxl

[languid gyro]

||The first post-Painted Power big hit is a lovely dopamine spike ❤️ ||

[odd isle]

LOL look what Jollibee did

[languid gyro]

So I haven't had a chance to test myself yet, but I'm hearing that one of [P5] ||Verso's|| weapons might be bugged? And one I just took to level 33 too because it's what I've been using 💀

||It's supposed to provide half of his Perfection bonus damage to allies, so 100% damage boost at S-rank, but apparently that damage boost gets completely overriden by other buffs that are lesser and shouldn't compete, like Powerful||

Which does not seem intended to me at all

And is also a huge potential damage loss if true (and a waste of a precious resource I spent on it 🥲 )

[fringe walrus]

Obsessed lmao

[vivid peak]

I’m going to gommage before jollibee ever makes it here

[fringe walrus]

Interesting. So you’re not gommaged at 33 or 34

Thx for the info

[languid gyro]

...shit it really is bugged

[Post Act 2 optional area] ||This max damage is from keeping Verso at B-rank (I took off Maelle's Roulette so there'd be no variance in damage; that's also why the number is smaller than in my past screenshots though lol)||

||And this screenshot of max damage is from getting Verso to S-rank, which should in theory drastically increase Maelle's damage because of the Sireso weapon passive||

...except the numbers are the same..... so the passive isn't working...

I'm...actually pretty upset right now about this bug, now that I've tested it myself

[vivid peak]

Ok calm down detective

[languid gyro]

The whole weapon's passive just...straight up does not work

And I just spent the rare resource to fully max it out 💀 and have none left to max out a different weapon instead

[vivid peak]

I’ll tell you what you want to know if you can get jollibee to open an Australian branch

[languid gyro]

sigh

(just the weapon description for easy reference, also, for the above)

[fringe walrus]

Got it, I’ll get them on the phone right away

[green escarp]

While you're at it ask them why they closed shop in my town. Considering its like 50% Filipinos here I'm amazed they went under

[vivid peak]

Wow 50%

[green escarp]

Back in high school we all used to joke that if you threw a rock in our town, you'd most likely hit a Filipino person, lol

[languid gyro]

I'm actually genuinely upset/deflated enough to just go and risk spoiling myself now to look up where else I can get that rare resource so I can just swap out to a new weapon right away because this just sorta drains my enthusiasm to continue playing the game at all until I can switch over

[wheat tulip]

What is jollybee

[languid gyro]

(Also, sorry for crashing out while y'all are having an entirely unrelated, and much more lighthearted, conversation 😭 )

It just feels really bad to have spent time and rare limited resources investing in something that...just does not actually work, so all of the time/resources you put in are null and void

[vivid peak]

You shouldn’t throw rocks at people shadow. Maybe that’s why jollibee shut down

[languid gyro]

It's a filipino fast food chain that specializes in chicken products; it's quite tasty

There are a few locations near me that I somewhat regularly frequent

[green escarp]

Dude, I'm the wrong skin tone to throw rocks at anyone in this country

[wheat tulip]

Thats understandable

[wheat tulip]

Ooh i see we dont have a lot of chicken speciality fast food here

Its coming little by little so maybe one day ill see one

[vivid peak]

We have kfc and I can’t think of any other chains… except local stores

Oh there are a lot of Korean chicken places

[languid gyro]

[Spoilers for all throughout post Act 2 sorta] ||well shit I missed the Trash Can Man so I gotta hit up one of the areas I was originally planning to save for later||

@green escarp which of these is the easiest/quickest besides the two I already did (||Continent and Renoir's Drafts||)

[green escarp]

||Uuuuh, that depends, are you just nuking bosses willy nilly at this point? I'd say Easiest would be the Panting Workshop, then probably the Flying Manor? Then Endless Tower then Abyss||

[languid gyro]

Just for good measure, I did one more test, this time switching out the weapon entirely and using just a basic level 1 starting weapon with no special passive skills

Exact same damage as the other two screenshots.

The weapon passive just really, truly does not work. At all.

Sigh.

[green escarp]

On the bright side, If you send them a bug report I'm sure they'd look at it

I just wouldn't know the proper channels

[languid gyro]

I'll do that, yeah

This is the proper channel, for anyone else: https://sandfallinteractive.typeform.com/coe33

[wheat tulip]

Same😭

[wheat tulip]

Fuck me neither

Oh i went to a new one when i went to a big city i think its name was popeyes? Its from the us from what i remember it was good

[vivid peak]

Yeah Popeyes is from the US

I think Louisiana

So… French adjacent

[languid gyro]

Bug report sent in

Unlikely it'll be fixed before I end up finishing the game myself but

"For those who come after", right?

[wheat tulip]

HELP LMAO

[wheat tulip]

Hoping they will fix it sooner tho!!

Even tho they are probably running right and left rn with all the bugs😭

[languid gyro]

Yeah, all things considered, this is a super minor bug in relation to actual game crashes or softlocks or whatever else

I don't expect this to be anywhere near the top or even middle of their priority list

I'm well aware of how small my problem is, but I can't help being annoyed/frustrated anyways 🥲

But nothing to do but move on I guess

This does mean though that unfortunately my plans for a full support ||Verso|| kinda go out the window as that was probably his single strongest team support tool

So I'll pick a more DPS-oriented weapon and just run him and [P3] ||Maelle|| as dual DPS

(The other option is to replace him entirely with someone who might be more suited to be a full support, like [P6] ||Monoco||, but I absolutely refuse to acknowledge that when I've sunk more lumina into him than literally anyone else 💀 )

This does, however, mean that I probably won't be getting the even bigger damage numbers on [P3] ||Maelle|| at the victory screen as easily, since I won't be able to provide as much support, but it is what it is

Quick mechanics question, as I look through my replacement weapon options: ||Does the "lightning strike" on crit count as its own extra hit that consumes stuff like Mark. Like if I double Mark an enemy and try to end with a basic attack to set up for Maelle (the basic consumes 1 of 2 hits to break the Mark, leaving the other for her), will I inevitably consume both Marks with Verso because Basic Attack + Contorso lightning strike?||

||Because as cool and strong as this weapon is, and as much as I'm planning on pivoting from full support to alt DPS, I do still want him to be able to provide Mark support to Maelle, which this weapon could make it more challenging to do depending on how exactly it works||

Wait what am I doing I can just test this myself

||WAIT THE LIGHTNING STRIKES DON'T CONSUME THE MARKS 👀 ||

||I even removed my [Stay Marked] lumina just to make sure, and sure enough, even though my Basic Attack triggered lightning strikes, I only consumed one Mark stack with it, leaving it for Maelle||

That's really huge actually

[wheat tulip]

Oh niice i thought it would ngl😭

[languid gyro]

[P5] ||Very satisfying to have exactly 100% crit rate on the dot, no more and no less||

[keen thunder]

Act 3 gameplay spoils, funny late game character build ||aside from my broken superbolide berserker build for Verso and FOR GUSTAVE spam build for Maelle, I’ve been running Lune as a support/heal bot for most of the game so I lately decided to try a DPS build for her and put together this “gamba” build. Basically her elemental genesis (big aoe damage) can only be cast if you exactly have 4 stains, each a different element. So what happens is I normally do Elemental Trick which gives her each element per crit (and I have her specked around 50% CR) so if I happen to luck out I’ll shout “I BEAT MY 50/50s” like a true Hoyo gacha addict. I then pass Sciel’s turn back to her and if I didn’t luck out, I can reroll my stains with her weapon that lets me gain a random one with free aim. Keep in mind it’s completely random but it feels so good when you get it from rerolls and wipe the mob on the first turn. Otherwise I “discard my hand” with Mayhem. Combine that with Roulette for even more gamba I basically turned her into Qingque from HSR ||

[languid gyro]

So made some slight adjustments to my [P5] ||Verso|| build, and uh...despite the fact that I'm intentionally not giving him all the damage boosting luminas that I gave to main DPS Maelle, because primary role is still to support/enable her big damage numbers (as opposed to minmaxing his own damage output), I still may have made him too strong 💀

I've been trying to do some damage tests in [post-Act 2 optional area] ||Renoir's Drafts||, which I figured was a pretty reasonable endgame area with bulkier enemies to test on, but I have started to just end every combat encounter without it ever even getting to Maelle's turn 💀 💀 💀

||Like at this point I think I could genuinely bench Maelle entirely and just one-round Simon with Verso doing most of the work instead 😭 ||

||In fact maybe that’ll be the real postgame benchmark: create an autosave right before the Simon fight and attempt to take turns one-rounding him with every playable character||

||If not him then I might at least do it with the final story boss, since as I understand it, this is one of those games where beating the finale takes you back to the save right before the end, so you can effectively challenge the final boss infinitely||

[green escarp]

||nope, the post game save lets you back out into the world but you can't challenge the final boss again unless you manually load an autosave right before the actual fight||

[languid gyro]

Ah okay good to know

||Are there any bosses, mandatory or optional, that can be challenged repeatedly without autosave reloading shenanigans?||

||I suppose worst case, I note down how much max HP a given boss has and then just test on a bulkier endgame normal enemy to see how easily I can get a character’s one-round damage to break past that threshold, as the next best thing beyond just rechallenging the boss directly||

||Not ideal though, of course||

Of course, some characters will also take a bit more work to figure out their per-turn damage if a lot of their damage comes from multihit sources rather than just one big single hit, since the victory screen doesn’t really factor that in

(Part of why I just think we should have a damage breakdown/chart for each character after fights, if we wanted)

[green escarp]

||Infinite Tower||

[pallid gull]

getting my ass beat

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[wheat tulip]

||against cléa?||

[pallid gull]

yeah

||each time movesets change it's so over||

[wheat tulip]

Nooo😭 im sure you can do it!

Just finished the game

||who dared to make a choice between maelle and verso for the fight? im gonna bonk someone || end of the game spoiler

||the fight against renoir was so cool loved it ( oneshoted him but eh i can always see what he does during someone playthrough!!😭||

||sirène fighting aline was so two representation of aline SCREAMING ||

Got platine trophy, ||omg production dogs , the tableau on the ceiling and the remerciement at the end such a good game im so happy aaah||

[hoary nacelle]

Post act 2 spoiler || lol???? ||

[wheat tulip]

Congrats !!

[hoary nacelle]

Thank youuu || 9.1 million in one hit is crazy to me hdjekslla ||

[wheat tulip]

It was for me too lmao

[pallid gull]

optional boss, later game ||what the fuck is a tricky nevron i hate her ass so bad||

[wheat tulip]

||i dont even know this one i oneshoted her i was too scared😭||

[pallid gull]

||she is beefy as hell 😭 gommage helps take a chunk of her health but mess up 2 moveset parries and it's back to square one... not to mention she keeps eating my 3rd party member so there's that 💀 ||

but we will perserve

[wheat tulip]

||OH fuck i didnt know she do that too😭||

[pallid gull]

omfg

i switched to expert and ||SHE HEALS FOR 10mil KJDFSHSD||

i also think the parries are slightly different now

or maybe not? can't tell if the window has changed or not

[languid gyro]

Watching a lyric video of [end of Act 2] ||Une via a t'aimer and it's a little funny (and sad 😭 ) how the lyrics are so poetically/metaphorically written but are also just actually incredibly direct and on-point if you know the plot context||

||Also just in love with how much you can feel Renoir's and Aline's conflict, yet also love, through not just the lyrics but the instrumentation, just incredible composition all around||

[wheat tulip]

||thats why i said i got spoiled a few time lmao ||

[wheat tulip]

Maybe not the best time to switch but you can do it haha😭

[pallid gull]

lmaooo i was like i'm dying anyway why not

||but the more that i think about it, it makes sense for her to get the double amount of hp back because she also has a lot more hp in general||

it'll just take even longer

[hasty halo]

God my parry timing is still a bit off sometimes lol

[languid gyro]

[Post-Act 2 camp] ||getting slightly depressed thinking about how Verso and Clea probably both came to this Canvas a lot to just play around as children but Clea just hasn't come back since growing up and becoming embroiled in the feud outside so the creations inside just end up sitting around waiting for and missing her 😭 ||

||It's like when you have a pet that just sits at home waiting for an owner that might never come back 🥲 ||

||want to hug this man so bad||

||want to hug this man so bad||

||oh my GOD the Esquie super early camp line of "Verso is Verso's cousin and Maelle is Maellel's cousin!" and it sounded silly at the time but was it just referring to painted vs "real" personas I'm- 💀 ||

[pallid gull]

||it's so much to unpack 😭 ||

[languid gyro]

||it's a good thing he's packing so much then I mean what||

||sorry, sorry, humor and horny to cope 🥲 ||

[pallid gull]

||i feel bad for everyone but painted verso will always destroy me the most always cause he is such a victim of... everyone really lmao||

||add to that the existential crisis of "are my friends my friends because the "real" me made them that way or they see me as the "real" me and not even my own person"||

[languid gyro]

||Also a little embarrassing that it did not click for me until a little more into Act 3 that the shadowy faceless boys are all child Verso's soul (and from there you can also extrapolate who all the other faceless figures are) but going back and seeing their dialogue now from other streamers' povs from earlier on in the game and understanding what and who they mean is 😭 ||

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

||i just found out rn via your message so nothing to feel embarrassed of lmaooo||

[languid gyro]

I do genuinely appreciate that the game does not just overtly spell things out for you a lot of the time but also sometimes it would help lmaooo

||In a similar vein, it's interesting to also go back and see the white Nevron dialogue because when I first went through the game I assumed "she", "Mistress", etc. were the Paintress, but now that I understand that it was not Aline who painted the nevrons but Clea it also changes things somewhat||

||My first max! As it should be ❤️ ||

[green escarp]

||When I tell you this recontextualization floored me||

[languid gyro]

The way this statement could refer to at least a dozen different things throughout this game too

they really cooked with this one 🔥

[green escarp]

Game is the gift that keeps on giving

[languid gyro]

gonna be thinking about this game for years to come

||sorry this is not related to anything but I just switched outfits again on a whim and am seeing it in full in a cutscene and just... damn he looks so fine||

getting a little hungry playing this game

[pallid gull]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

need him

[languid gyro]

||"You already destroyed her world." what a statement, oof||

||really just going for the throat huh 😭 ||

||Oh that's why I wasn't allowed to go here earlier; it was specifically for Maelle's quest||

You know, one super tiny qol I'd appreciate is if [P6] ||enemies that contain skills you haven't learned yet still have the little foot icon even without Monoco in the active party, because then I'd know to switch him in for subsequent battles in the same area (or reload the autosave if it's a boss skill)||

||.....oh I am way overleveled for this area 💀 just the auto-death + death bomb combo kills the enemies at battle start, before I get to even take my first turn 💀 💀 💀 ||

[wheat tulip]

||never tried the bomb death lmao , sounds fun||

[languid gyro]

[Post Act 2 outfit] ||I cannot believe it took this long for us to finally have Baguette Maelle||

[languid gyro]

|| 😭 ||

[languid gyro]

||So many optional boss designs are just so cool 👀 ||

[pallid gull]

ooo i remember fighting that one

[languid gyro]

||Welp....this was just the auto-death-bomb damage I haven't even taken my first turn yet 😭 ||

||ALSO WHOOPS JUST NOTICED I HAVE MONOCO INSTEAD OF MAELLE LMAO||

||That was definitely a mistake, but also this boss is most certainly dying before Monoco's turn anyways so 💀 ||

||Yup...died to Verso's first Free Aim shot, no skills or anything required lmaooo||

[pallid gull]

https://xcancel.com/Cathianedraws/status/1926038657854562636

looking at art even tho i haven't finished the game... once again risking my life

p5 but maybe i need to get that dlc in my replay... ||https://bsky.app/profile/thedaswolves.bsky.social/post/3lphsxn6of22f ||

Thedas Wolves (@thedaswolves.bsky.social)

I love him so much 😭❤️❤️❤️
#Verso #Expedition33 #ClairObscurExpedition33

Bluesky · May 18, 2025, 7:43 PM

[languid gyro]

||OH it's a 1v1 👀 ||

||RIP I guess to anyone who neglected Maelle||

||But that wasn’t me so 🫡 to Alicia||

||I’m just glancing over at the turn order bar and the way I have 3 turns before she gets her first…. She’s not gonna make it to her first is she 🥲 ||

||(She does at least have till the song loops though, just vibing rn)||

[green escarp]

If it's any consolation Amphy, you'll get to experiment way more with stuff in NG+ since all enemies get buffed (larger health pools, more dmg etc) xD

[languid gyro]

||I wonder what the necessary speed threshold is for doubling. My Maelle’s the slowest member of the team but she’s still at a reasonably respectable 2200-2300 speed or so||

[languid gyro]

Tbh with how things are going I might need an NG++ to feel something again

||Just Maelle, not counting the other two members of the team, can now do up to nearly 300 mil damage on just her first turn, of two. Add on the rest of the party’s DPS and her second turn, and I don’t think even the NG+ final boss has enough HP to make it to their first turn 💀 ||

Tbh I probably just have to ban Maelle altogether in NG+, maybe do a Lune or [P6] ||Monoco|| main DPS run or something

Though with the right lumina builds it’ll probably make little difference in the end lmao

[green escarp]

So because I can safely look this up, apparently NG+ does keep scaling on each playthrough like a souls game. (NG++ NG+++ etc)

Up to what point it stops doesn't seem to be clear yet

Armed with this knowledge I think its time I went into NG++

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[languid gyro]

@pallid gull [post Act 2 quest] ||throwing up a little seeing Verso watch Maelle gommage Painted Alicia right in front of him..........||

||and then the whiplash of immediately coming out of the cutscene to see Esquie flapping about 😭 ||