#Clair Obscur: Expedition 33

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hoary nacelle
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No because I also did this last night😭 😭

pallid gull
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i will win even if it takes all day

wheat tulip
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You can do it!

coarse scarab
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thank youuu luv

coarse scarab
wheat tulip
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Warning im speaking a lot more franch here

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As lorie said so well

coarse scarab
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it’s a french game after all made by french devs i just think it’s your right

pallid gull
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no story spoilers, but yes on outfit and hair spoilers

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u ever see a woman so beautiful u start crying

wheat tulip
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You are obsessed with her it seems lmao

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I love her character so much

pallid gull
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she's not my main obsession rn but def my second... i need to give her a kissie

wheat tulip
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As you should !

pallid gull
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can't even say much bc it's optional content spoilers but god this game is so fuckin fun

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i dont think any game will top us this year for me

wheat tulip
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Not anyone can top me so yeah understandable

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Its a good word for it lmao

pallid gull
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"can top us"

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i love my typos

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what da hell did i even wanna say

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i think i just wanted to say "i don't think any game will top this for me"

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us just snuck in lmao

wheat tulip
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Lmaoo

languid gyro
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I think this game could top me for sure

rain widget
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[act 1 outfit spoilers] ||the fact that you can get sophie's "skirt outfit" for maelle is just mericCat why are they doing this to us!!!!! crying ||

wheat tulip
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||wait why does the masked woman voice reminds me of maelle?😭|| act 1 spoiler

wheat tulip
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I just know the hear me out cake of this game is gonna be crazypikaLol

wheat tulip
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||SCREAMING AND CRYING, GUSTAVE IS DYING|| big spoiler end of act 1

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HELLO

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||who are you, beau gosse?!||

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||crashing out rn , gustave is dead i loved him ellie mericCat gatorSits ||

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||love the lesbianism but at what cost!!!😭😭||

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Omg ||verso is smexy i love him already||

green escarp
coarse scarab
green escarp
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Also I shouldn't laugh but you made that rhyme Rain and that took me out

wheat tulip
coarse scarab
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i thought i was safe

green escarp
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MIRA NOOOO

coarse scarab
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i thought i was nearing end of act 1 so i was safe. guess not lol

wheat tulip
coarse scarab
wheat tulip
coarse scarab
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its hard to pinpoint the sections of this game

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you're fine <3

wheat tulip
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Im sorry its super important i feel so bad😭😭

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Dont read this one mira || did i just leveled up gustave for NOTHING? SMH I WANT TO DIE||

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Wait what

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||why does versa has the dark outfit of deluxe too?? Isnt it only for gustave?🤨 ||

pallid gull
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idk if this counts as a spoiler (specifically for you rain, this is a spoiler for anyone else that didn't get here) ||but my assumption was that gustave being the protag is a false narrative, verso was always meant to be the protag||

wheat tulip
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Oooh

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||they seem similar so i was wondering ||

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||they use the same everything too , weird||

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Anyway this game keeps on giving i love it

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Love the drama

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||esquie thats crazy how can you say the nicest one is dead ??? SCREAMING||

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Wait what ||theres friend lvl too??||

languid gyro
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||idk I just wanted to feel included||

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I’m like practically vibrating at work rn to be able to drive home and play

pallid gull
wheat tulip
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||i always forget that maelle is just a teen omg shes going through itmericCat ||

green escarp
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|| And then Esquie gives her a hug and I just sobbed||

wheat tulip
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||yup...yup... samegatorSits ||

green escarp
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On a lighter note (character you meet in act 1) || I LOVE Esquie so much. Such a fun character||

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||He's such a golden retriever and if I see a single hater I am going to explode them||

wheat tulip
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||Idk his en voice but i love his french one its so gooffy i love him ||

green escarp
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||He's goofy sounding in ENG too ^_^||

wheat tulip
green escarp
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I just wanna give a shoutout to one of Maelle's skills

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Enemy: resists fire
Maelle: "lol, no"

wheat tulip
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Oh damn

wheat tulip
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||No way they just did that this game was already so hard😭 why another sort of dodge ?? And im so lost because of itgatorSits || mecanic spoiler act 2

wheat tulip
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It is wtf

wheat tulip
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Lets goo i just beat my first ||chromatic||

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||not a blood river eeew||

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||bosses fights are so well done je pleure du pouletmericCat ||

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Oh... ( act 2 spoiler)

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||"no one knew if you were my brother or my father but for me , it was both" mericCat CRYING AGAIN||

pallid gull
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far into act 2, camp ||i gotta say esquie's scenes with verso make me so happy||

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||the fact that he does so many things like giving him headpats and hugs 😭 and verso asks for it and loves all of them.... fwends||

pallid gull
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act 2, outfit spoilers

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goty

wheat tulip
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OMG I NEED IT I DONT CARE I SPOILED MYSELF

pallid gull
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LMAO

wheat tulip
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Where are the people measuring the men to know the dick size i need them!!

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Gonna stop here mericCat

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||i just entered the monoco station || act 2 spoiler

languid gyro
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[prologue] ||I like how the mime is like half the % of literally anything else in the prologue; I wonder if people just didn't see it first time around since it was tucked away (I believe Lorie just missed it entirely)||

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Also, finally home so I can play more now! 🎊

green escarp
wheat tulip
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Oh noo

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I didnt know there was an achievement for it

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Or i forgot

green escarp
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Future replay goals I guess 🙃

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Actually, (spoiler?) ||I believe the game has an NG+||

languid gyro
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If there's one "gripe", if you could call it that, I have with the game right now, it's how easy it is to miss things because there's not a clear enough indicator, for me, to determine which NPCs you should go up and talk to vs which are non-interactable parts of the crowd

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Was watching Lorie's vod earlier today and noticed she ran into a few NPCs/dialogue/interactions in the prologue that I somehow just missed completely (and likewise she missed quite a few that I found)

green escarp
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It feels very old school JRPG. I've seen a lot of people say that this reminds them of their first time playing games like FFX

Which both gives me the warm fuzzies and is also suffering xD

wheat tulip
languid gyro
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Also can I just say...the feedback for getting successful parries, especially consecutively (if the opponent is doing a multihit combo), feels so good

wheat tulip
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||im still mad i didnt got that red uniformellie ||

languid gyro
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Honestly, they cooked hard as hell for the combat in general, just from the tiny taste I've gotten (I've no doubt more complexity will be layered on over time, and I'm so excited)

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Also just to check, in case I missed something obvious: is it only autosave, or is there a way to manually save that I'm just not immediately finding?

green escarp
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But yes unfortunately for obsesseive saveslotters like myself (pavlov'd by years of Bethesda games), there's nothing like that lmao

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Also I seem to be having a performance issue when I play the game for long stretches, where my frames start dropping and even doing performance tweaks either in game or messing with performance mods doesn't seem to be fixing it, so its just a "wait for a patch" situation at this point I guess

languid gyro
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ALSO [Act 1] ||first of all holy HELL the way Gustave saw his massacred squad and just...wordlessly sat down and put a gun to his head....what a chilling scene. I cannot fcking believe we're still basically just in the very very beginning of this game||

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||And second of all LUNE LIVES LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO||

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||She was probably the Expedition 33 member I was MOST hoping would live, other than Maelle, from the dinner party||

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||Also her combat style seems so interesting 👀 I have a feeling I'm gonna love her (more than I already do)||

wheat tulip
languid gyro
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||YO WE GOT GROUP PARRIES??||

languid gyro
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What is endgame combat going to look like oh I am so excited

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Question though, is there any way I can examine an enemy to see stuff like elemental affinities/weaknesses after I've uncovered them once, like in Persona/Metaphor, or do I have to just deadass remember every instance of "oh enemies that look like this are weak to this element"

wheat tulip
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You have to remember 😭

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Some are logical but others...not so much

languid gyro
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Whoops, time to keep a spreadsheet tab open as I play then

wheat tulip
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Pokemon ptsd

languid gyro
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Oh no I'm gonna get decision paralysis every level up, just like in Elden Ring and Metaphor, aren't I 💀

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Stat question, if your Speed is sufficiently high, are you able to get multiple turns in the time someone else gets one turn (and is this reasonable to achieve), or are you capped at only being able to be first in turn order with high speed but otherwise one-turn-per-character no matter what?

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I guess I should also dig into seeing if people have figured out damage formulas in this game to figure out a good rough ratio of Health to Defense for damage mitigation

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...or maybe I should just go full glass cannon and git gud at parries/dodges lmao

wheat tulip
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Honestly i dont know

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I kinda play as a dumbass rn 😭

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I go crit rate or speed

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It adds some numbers to the others stats sometimes

languid gyro
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[Act 1] ||Lune glides when she sprints omgggg how can I use anyone else she's so perfect||

languid gyro
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Not my stubborn ass continually challenging the ||Chromatic Lancelier|| at level 3 until I can perfect parry all his attacks (bc otherwise it one or two shots me lmao)

green escarp
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Unfortunately there's no way to tell in game how fast you are vs enemies until you just get into a fight and you're either running circles around them, or the turns go normally, or you see the turn order is "oops all enemies" and they start grating you like cheese lorOHOHO

green escarp
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I wanna play more tonight but I shouldn't since I have to go to bed soon, because I have to get up at 4am for work gatorSits

languid gyro
green escarp
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So many cases where I would have been so pissed if that wasn't a thing lol

languid gyro
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It's something that annoys me to no end in other JRPGs 😭 like if I beat a boss but there was even a single party member dead I'd legit reset the fight and do it again so I wouldn't have to deal with the uneven exp

languid gyro
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In general though I’ve found that my parry timing tends to be too early more often than not, rather than too late

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Twitchy trigger finger 😭

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But so far I’ve felt that enemy telegraphs have been remarkably fair, which I’m happy about

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Also just conceptually it’s really neat that there’s a system in place that allows for players to challenge enemies that they otherwise wouldn’t normally be able to

green escarp
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Omg Maximillan Dood is playing the game lorWAOW

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And he's enjoying it too

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Yes more, MORE COVERAGE FOR THIS GAME

coarse scarab
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i love bluesky

coarse scarab
coarse scarab
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just finished act 1.

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act 1 ending ||what the fuck. what the fuck? legitimately what the fuck?||

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||inside me there are two wolves, one is sobbing over gustave and the other is licking verso through the screen welcome back clive||

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|| i know i sorta spoiled myself on clicking on what i thought was a safe spoiler but i dismissed it as an afterthought i thought him dying was just bait. surely he comes back right. surely??? surely???? fucking hell a game hasn't made me sobbed like this before the music is stellar. cannot stop singing this game praises. however i am still very confused, i have my hypotheses but still so many questions ||

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|| i must say, for a game where its commonplace to experience death or see a character pass on, finding a way to still have that much gravitas when a major character bite the dust is impressive. i thought i'd be numb to it by now but genuinely a great execution by the devs. thats not a joke but it could be idk humour is how i cope ||

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||forcing us to follow a character from the beginning and fall in love w him only to end him halfway is NOT fun eueueu ||

coarse scarab
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act 2 ||did not know i was playing devil may cry hahaha cool tho, very obvious dmc inspiration from the perfection rank. ||

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act 2 ||i've only met verso for all of 2 seconds and i already want to eat this grandpa. i have now claimed him as my husband idc||

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sorry i’m clogging up this thread with so much of my yapping. these are just my thoughts so far don’t click unless you’ve reached act 2 ||it’s very clear to me now that there’s just so much depth to the writing. not that i was doubting them before but it just cements the fact that the devs know exactly what they’re doing. writing a false narrative from the beginning, even heralding gustav as the mc from the very second you launch the game and even in the marketing. the fact that you’d spend a good chunk of time learning how to use him in battle, levelling him and then all of that being completely wiped. it’s very logical in a gameplay perspective but when you pair that with the narrative it just reinstates the fact that he’s gone.

it seems to me now that verso was meant to be the protagonist if that makes any sense at all and the way they were able to keep all of that under wraps. and now he’s the one furthering the plot and continuing the journey. euggggg. so many thoughts. perhaps verso was meant to be the mc all along. but he’s so likeable from the get go and this was done in such an amazing albeit painful way. interested to learn more about him. ugh i also just missed ben starr’s voice. maybe it’s also my attachment to clive but oof <3333 my peepaw grandpa. verso is my pookie now ||

pallid gull
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yuppp exactly that

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i mentioned it as well and it's such good writing

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||there's no way for you to know and it doesn't feel real until it hits you this was always meant to happen and gustave was just there to haunt the narrative and you as the player||

coarse scarab
languid gyro
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Like I kept failing bc I thought I needed to anticipate the attack more, parrying pretty much right as the attack animation happens

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But turns out the parry is fast/instant enough that I actually get to (nay, am supposed to) let the enemy attack start more

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I don’t think I’m explaining well, but basically, I learned last night that, at least for that particular enemy, the parry timing was easier and more intuitive than I was making it out to be, and I was handicapping myself by assuming a tighter window than the game was giving me

pallid gull
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the autosave sending me kinda far and idk where da fawk i am

languid gyro
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The game not having a map (that I’ve found anyways) kinda kills me sometimes 😭

pallid gull
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yeah, i have some small gripes and the autosave is def one of them bc im so anxious all the time LMAO also the lack of map outside of the continent

coarse scarab
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i’ve learnt to rely on audio cues more than visual

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haven’t had a problem since

coarse scarab
pallid gull
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ohh interesting

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gonna keep that in mind

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this is rough for my obsessive ass that likes recording cutscenes

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but this is probably the game telling to stop hoarding every single thing, saves included

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hate these little fuckers

languid gyro
pallid gull
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i feel that gatorSits

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right now i just missed on unique loot bc i didn't lock in and they immediately saved for me after lmaooo

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evil but i get it

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act 2 (? i feel like this is obvious throughout act 1 too but just in case i'd rather tag it this way) ||so it's interesting that apparently the age for the gommage got lower and lower as time went by, so i guess sophie died at 34. but it makes me wonder why they started with 0??||

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also spoilers for act 2 from an npc but ||the way we were just talking about this a few days ago lol, i think one of my biggest existentialist concerns is the fact that beautiful art will outlive me||

wheat tulip
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||but i guess something happened since multiple characters gained immortality?|| act 1 end spoiler

pallid gull
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||true, it's also the fact that not a lot of people reach 100 so there's that 😭 ||

wheat tulip
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True lmao

pallid gull
wheat tulip
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I am there already?

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I dont know if i can read it😭

pallid gull
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where are you rn rain?

wheat tulip
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Just entered ||the monoco zone||

pallid gull
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hmmm okay maybe not then

wheat tulip
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Okay gatorSits

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Gonna progress a bit more after doing my dailies and eating my breakfast

pallid gull
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enjoy 🙂‍↕️

wheat tulip
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Thank you !

coarse scarab
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might just cutely (insanely) play this game all of tonight :P

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lumiere song stuck in my head as i feed the cats

wheat tulip
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As you should!

pallid gull
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act 2 ||mime||

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all this pain for that fuckass hair....

coarse scarab
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HELP

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||they’ve been through a lot ||

pallid gull
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the way i've missed so many ||mimes|| apparently

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i need to backtrack

wheat tulip
wheat tulip
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LMAOO

wheat tulip
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||he was inspired by ff10 it seems !||

pallid gull
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ahhh yes i know which one they mean!

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i can totally see it

wheat tulip
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From what i see in the comments thats not the fav lmao

pallid gull
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it's rough LMAO

wheat tulip
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Understandable gkfocjf

pallid gull
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this diva...

languid gyro
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Since I can’t play the game while at work what if I just rewatch the prologue over and over via different streamers (and sob in a corner of the teacher’s lounge every time) 😭

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Also woof [Prologue] ||can’t believe I missed the painter that gives the free respec stone 😭 ||

pallid gull
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ohh i got that one ||but i completely missed the mime gatorSits ||

wheat tulip
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Got two of thoses but not ||the outfitfreya ||

languid gyro
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On the other end, I’m feeling a little proud of myself for ||beating the Mime first try, after seeing how many streamers struggled a bit with it||

wheat tulip
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This emote is meant as screaming btw

wheat tulip
languid gyro
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In fact ||the Mime was when I really started to appreciate the parry system because I was able to “sight read” most of the timing, and it made me appreciate how well telegraphed the moves are and how fair the parrying felt||

languid gyro
languid gyro
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God knows I’m mostly going into fights with a “learn to parry or get one-shot” mentality anyways lmao

pallid gull
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no same

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i only start dodging when i get really frustrated and wanna progress

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but otherwise im literally just "get one shot, get up, try again"

languid gyro
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I learned a heal skill on ||Lune|| and have never touched it since because if I have spare AP I’m throwing it into more damage to end the fight faster and relying on getting better at parries to survive lmao

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I have been throwing points into vitality but I just want to be able to survive one-shots, even if only barely (like the hit takes 90% of my hp instead of 100%)

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Being allowed at least that one margin of error makes a pretty big difference in consistency for me

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But I’m okay not getting much more than that, at least for now

pallid gull
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the only thing that frustrates me sometimes is when i learn patterns of enemies that can one shot me, only to discover that my hits are not powerful enough so their hp bar doesn't budge... i simply think i should be able to brute force everything as long as i learn the patterns and if my heart is pure </3

languid gyro
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Also from what I’ve observed, at least for the early game, vitality seems more cost-efficient (the number of points it takes to literally double or triple my HP is like only a 5-10% DPS increase if put into damage, if even)

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Which makes sense, since I heard might scales greatly with weapon stats too so beginner weapons are gonna have lower bases

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Probably gonna put early points into Health and Speed and then start putting points into damage once I have a decent foundation

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(And then when builds come online lategame I’ll respec to adjust then)

languid gyro
pallid gull
fringe walrus
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this is SO cool to see

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need ppl to stop saying turn based rpgs are outdated after seeing something like this

pallid gull
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it's funny bc bg3 is considered a turn based rpg too and that also blew people's minds and it was only like last year

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like we're witnessing so much success from turn based rpgs and it's so nice

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not like the genre ever went away but it rly feels like witnessing a renaissance with how much praise and love they've been getting

wheat tulip
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Wait what ||its a playable character ?! Im so surprised || act 2 big spoiler

green escarp
wheat tulip
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The what

green escarp
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Oh that's right you don't play Final Fantasy xD

wheat tulip
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The only ff i played is 16 so😭😭

green escarp
# wheat tulip The only ff i played is 16 so😭😭

Ok so (act 2 spoilers and FF reference) ||Blue Mages are the class in Final Fantasy that get their skills by beating up monsters and taking their powers for themself, which is the same gimmick Monoco has in Expedition 33. Only instead of using a spell he collects their feet lmao)||

wheat tulip
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Lmaoo i see thank you

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||i thought it was their limbs tho||

green escarp
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||I mean, technically a foot is considered a limb|| xD

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I wanna plaaaaay

I'm still at work gatorSits

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Just waiting for my coworker to finish up with the photo approval process so I can go home

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More likely though I'm gonna do some quick dailies then nap because I am so sleep deprived...

wheat tulip
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Understandable !! Hope you can rest soon

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||just beat a big bud (thats the name) it was so hard sciel carried me😭|| ennemy spoiler?

languid gyro
green escarp
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LOL no thankfully E33 is pure and untainted by the scourge of live service or gacha

wheat tulip
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||omg so many golden swords||

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Nevermind ||its pee swords its licking stuff||

wheat tulip
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||nocoofreya mericCat ||

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They went the ||dark vador path for verso i see lmao ||

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i made it to act 2....... gatorSits ||WHAT THE FUCK mericCat||

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||my emotions are all over the place hahahhahahha it's fine crying||

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||omgg esquie getting his own armband on his headmericCat || act 2 and camp spoiler

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||im gonna have nightmares tonight...freya || spoiler mid act 2

wheat tulip
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||want to scream the axon was so hard to kill😭😭|| act 2 spoiler

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||no way lmaoo not esquie always losing his stones because he laughs too much😭😭|| camp spoiler

pallid gull
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omg rain u passed me

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||im also gonna kill an axon, but it's not the one you just went through, i haven't been to that area yet||

wheat tulip
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||i did the mask one tho the other said danger so i didnt go 😭||

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||wait what we can obtain gradient attack from the friend level thing ?!||

wheat tulip
pallid gull
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lmaooo yes, you did

wheat tulip
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Wait so you went ||to the hardest one first?!|| oh aiden i want your courage one day 😭

pallid gull
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LMAO it wasn't even intentional

wheat tulip
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I think its the ||siren arena right? ||

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I saw the name on the map

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||i love swimming with esquie mericCat ||

pallid gull
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[end of act 1 / beginning of act 2 cutscene] ||i love themmmmm mericCatfroogyBiPride ||

wheat tulip
wheat tulip
# pallid gull yes!

Ill probably ||do this one sunday i cant do it tomorrow and im quite tired of that fight kfkfk||

pallid gull
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i just got there

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act 2 general - ||ok these multiple phase bosses are beating my ass 😭 but i'm too stubborn and don't wanna lower the difficulty pikaLol ||

wheat tulip
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||not lune's siblings also having sky theme in their namesmericCat ; Sol and Stella , crying|| background character and camp spoiler

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||esquie dancing to verso and maelle duet mericCat precious bean||

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# wheat tulip You can do it!

yeah it'll just take me some time to get used to cause ||i keep losing it every time they introduce a new combat mechanic.... like wdym gradient counter 😭 💀 ||

wheat tulip
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wheat tulip
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||gonna stop now i entered the arena and got to the 67th expedition flag i thought the siren would be prettier gatorSits but that matches || big spoiler act 2 !!

wheat tulip
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||its just another animation ||

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Damn already at 20 hours of game

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wheat tulip
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Im doing 5 hours per day it seems

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Thats what happened when im obsessed honestly lmqo

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And im in the easy mode so thats maybe why

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wheat tulip
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It iis

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Thats helps too that its in my language 😭

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Usually the french translation is so bad i need to play in english

pallid gull
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act 2 ||the game baiting me into attacking a nevron that isn't hostile just bc i would have an advantage... that is nawt happening thank u||

pallid gull
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this boss got hands.....

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pallid gull
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are cutscenes unskippable?

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pallid gull
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oh how?

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omg i found it 🙏 god bless

rain widget
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after pausing it you should have an option to skip the cutscene

pallid gull
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i thought that i'm stuck watching it over and over again each time i die 😭

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languid gyro
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I think every JRPG should take a page out of Metaphor's book and just have a button to insta-reset a battle tbh

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good luck though aiden I believe 👏

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languid gyro
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are you able to autosave right in front of the boss, beyond the checkpoint?

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like with the 'ol equip switch trick

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that's what i've been doing 🙂‍↕️

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but it would still be nice to have a quicker/smoother way of resetting a fight

pallid gull
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yeah cause sometimes i miss the first parry on a fight and all my party members have like 1 hp and im just... everyone die rn, i need a redo gatorStands

languid gyro
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pallid gull
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another thing i kinda want is a mini map just because i don't trust myself and feel like i never really know where i'm going gatorSits

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always getting lost after making one turn... 😭

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late act 1 - ||the depths of the stone wave cliffs were rough cause it got so dark gatorSits ||

pallid gull
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i should maybe stop for the day bc im sleepy but this fight got hands and i wanna win so bad freya

wheat tulip
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Is it ||the siren?||

green escarp
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Hard to win boss fights if you're sleep deprived

pallid gull
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yeah, it's that one

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||i got to the final act but when shit started popping off i was like girl i cannot see what's going on... i got the hang of it in the end but i could not win the fight just with my 2 reserve teammates standing 😭||

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one more go....

wheat tulip
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||if it helps the other one should be "easier"😭🙏||

pallid gull
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okay my vision is getting blurry bc im so eepy, i will continue tomorrow

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fun fight though

languid gyro
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good night!

wheat tulip
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Good night aiden!!

pallid gull
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oh im still gonna be on discord until the sleep gets me raptorSits but i appreciate the ninis

wheat tulip
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Ckfkgkf

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I just remember while watching a streamer playing e33 that ||the gold square when an ennemy attack is when we jumps.... at least ill remember now😭||

languid gyro
languid gyro
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[Act 1] ||That sign can't stop me if I can't read||

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||o...first enemy in there did 10x my max HP in one hit 💀 ||

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||OKAY SO I actually perfect parried all 4 of its first turns (the fact that it gets 4 turns for every one of ours YIKES) and uhh....this is the amount of damage we dealt from those 4 counters....||

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||literally I'm not even sure you can tell from the screenshot that it took damage 😭 ||

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||I'm stubborn but not "sit here perfect parrying literally over a hundred times consecutively to win" stubborn 💀 I'll come back later I guess||

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||it only took me 3 tries to get the timing down for the parry though which I'm proud of, gonna take this as a small W and leave lmao||

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||I don't care about the logistics, the fact that they have a little portable phonograph at camp for playing atmospheric music is soooo chef's kiss||

green escarp
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About 8 hours in now and I love everything about this game

languid gyro
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||Oh my god the "underwater" area?? 💙 ||

hoary nacelle
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Also (act 1 outfit and hairstyle spoilers) || the fucking baguette outfit and hairstyle for lune are taking me out fjjdkskskwk ||

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|| like loterally just cause they're called baguette and you get them from fighting a mime i cannot ||

hoary nacelle
languid gyro
hoary nacelle
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Omgg bfjksksla

hoary nacelle
languid gyro
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skills that could go crazy if I were actually good at the game

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I actually don't know what direction to start taking ||Lune's|| skill tree

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||My initial goal was to get the one healing spell + at least one spell of each element, but now that I'm supposed to start specializing into stronger elemental skills I'm paralyzed on which branch to go down||

languid gyro
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I swear the creators are also secretly Slay the Spire fans because ||why is Maelle's kit just literally Watcher's||

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||And honestly Lune gives Defect vibes too, in the way the elemental stain system is designed||

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||oh my god there's more||

languid gyro
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||Also can I just say that the weapon designs are so cool too? The coral hilt! The glowing fin blades!! Quite literally slay||

green escarp
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I'm getting close to the end of the game gatorSits

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I'm high key mad because I wanted to be thorough before I started the last quest and moved onto NG+ but turns out everything you can miss in the prologue comes back to bite you for completion and that just makes me graaaaaah

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I plan on playing through the game obsessively again anyway because this game is incredible, but it's the principle of the matter

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Really does take me back to the FFX/FFX-2 days. "Oh you missed one specific thing? Too bad you can't get it now, no 100% completion for you"

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I am going to have guides stapled to my monitor for NG+ lol

languid gyro
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[Act 1] ||we've even got our own kinda Withers in this game 💀 ||

green escarp
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I have...many feelings

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One day I'll elaborate (likely when more folks get to the story end). For now, NG+ it is

green escarp
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Prologue (NG+) ||PAYBACK TIME FOR MISSING YOU THE FIRST TIME YOU LITTLE SHIT||

coarse scarab
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congrats shadow!

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i have to go vote today so i can’t play till im home gatorSits

pallid gull
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According to producer François Meurisse, the game drew inspiration from SquareSoft's Final Fantasy VIII, IX and X in particular, while the dodge and parry mechanics were influenced by FromSoftware's Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice.

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i have not played VIII but IX and X spoilers ||the existentialist dread, the constant fear of losing yourself and others is so prevalent in this game just like it was in the 2 final fantasies and it fucks me up so bad. i have so much to say about how similar they are in tone||

wheat tulip
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congrats but also im sorry gatorSits

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the day i will finish this game i will be in mourning not to be dramatic

wheat tulip
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Understandable ckdkfkf

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Rn im just scared of the final boss kgkekff

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||if the axons are THAT strong i want to scream||

coarse scarab
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act 2 boss ||dualliste is SO cool. was not aware i was playing dark souls tho lmao ||

wheat tulip
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||the one with the neon blade ?|| i forget the names of the ennemies💀

coarse scarab
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act 2 ||getting used to the combat and using verso alrdy! everything feels so smooth #professional LOL||

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i have to take a pause for dinner now tho eueue

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love this game, love the themes. so much to think about so much to feel

wheat tulip
wheat tulip
pallid gull
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raptorSits should've finished the fight last night even if i was falling asleep

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i've lost my reflexes bc i took a long break

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We Continue

languid gyro
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real gatorSits

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if i could play this game nonstop we simply wouldn't be having this issue

coarse scarab
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act 2 weapon ||the way one of the weapons is a straight up lamp post is taking me out||

wheat tulip
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Oh ||sciel one??||

coarse scarab
wheat tulip
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I got it ||when i fought the chromatique shit so congrats 😭||

coarse scarab
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major act 2 spoilers ||just buried gustave… i’m not okay… crying again. “see you… in the next life” mericCat ||

coarse scarab
wheat tulip
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It was intense for sure lmao

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I dont have much stamina so it fucking tired me😭

coarse scarab
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OH YEA LMAO i died the first time

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the trick was ||try and dodge and avoid burning since he can heal. super fun but definitely a long fight ||

wheat tulip
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Yup lmao

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I dont remember much from that fight tho

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I think i did it two days ago

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||its just that i also play of burning so it was a fight of it lmao and two of my characters can heal everyone ||

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||Im playing safe even tho i always lack ap 😭||

coarse scarab
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lune ||i really see so much of myself in her. the way she acts, the way she rationalise everything. the way she copes with her emotions and the situations presented to her. when she had that whole speech with maelle, struck deep because i relate so bad. she’s everything to me mericCat ||

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also ||she and sciel are so cute ||

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act 2 ||disaster expedition HELP||

wheat tulip
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You WHAT

wheat tulip
coarse scarab
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that’s what i’m hearing

pallid gull
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exactly what i said 🙂‍↕️

coarse scarab
coarse scarab
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does anyone use their lumina point thingies? i keep hoarding them

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not sure if i’ll ever run out

wheat tulip
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I use them yeah

pallid gull
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i use them, but i haven't been using them for a while now, i should lmao

wheat tulip
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You can add more of it !

pallid gull
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this fight gonna convert me into a parry master get me out of here

coarse scarab
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LMAO

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i believe in you aiden

wheat tulip
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Act 2 big spoiler btw

pallid gull
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||the final act|| is where i get my ass beat always

coarse scarab
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act 2 ||just met monoco! this music is so funky i love it ||

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||what do you mean there’s yet another mechanic to learn freya ||

languid gyro
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||So now that I have 3 party members, decided to come back and give this another shot and.... holy shit I might do it?? but also my hands are literally shaking just from getting enough parries to get this far||

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||The party's about level 11-12 ish right now, so I think I'm doing pretty decently considering||

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||welp.||

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||it keeps throwing me off because most of the time the attack where it walks up to you is just 1-hit, but every now and then on a whim it walks up and does two and I'm never prepared to parry the second hit 😭 ||

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||honestly Maelle held off pretty well solo the last while, got it down to like...the last 20% or so||

pallid gull
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oh this one also beat my ass gatorSits

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you got this!!

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me when the warning says "danger"

languid gyro
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noooooo I made it to the last 1/4 health before my first permanent casualty (as in no revive pots left either) 😭

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tempted to restart for exp (dead party members get some exp but not the full amount, seems like)

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but I should probably just soldier on and try to still win lol

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...I should also probably stop coming onto Discord to type midbattle bc I die immediately after every time from the broken concentration 💀

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Also is there an easy way to notice what buffs my party members have, so I know when I need to refresh, or do I have to just keep count manually?

pallid gull
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i think it's under their hp bar

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not like i can figure out what they mean im gonna be so fr

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but whenever i apply buffs to them, they get new icons under their hp bar

languid gyro
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||LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 🎊 ||

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Also, oof, I got hit by literally one attack that entire fight (and had to use a revive tint), which cost me the no-damage exp boost 😭

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Got attacked 99 times, and parried 98 of them

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Frustratingly close to a perfect

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But overall still extremely pleased

languid gyro
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||Maelle was definitely the MVP since Virtuoso stance retains all its properties even when not on your turn, meaning all of her parry counters were doing 200% extra damage each time||

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||Also, funnily, the boss having so much speed compared to us worked out actually, because that meant I could have Gustave cast his partywide Powerful buff and have that be retained for like 9 boss turns' worth of counters essentially||

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oh my god though the adrenaline

pallid gull
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congrats 👏

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and yes it's really fun freya

coarse scarab
pallid gull
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wondering if i'll ever escape this fight

coarse scarab
pallid gull
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yes it's been 2 days LMFAO

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it's okay..............we got this...

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i basically have all the parries and dodges figured out except for one

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and it's the kind of thing that can fuck everyone up

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i should've set up a death counter just for this fight specifically... im so curious

languid gyro
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I learned ||Lune's|| heal skill first because I figured healing would be a good thing to have but honestly I might take it off her bar for another offensive skill because I could not tell you the last time I used a heal lmao

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It's a parry or perish world out here

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I'm also so scared about getting a 4th party member actually bc my current 3 already feel perfect?? I could not fathom having to choose one of them to take off the team

pallid gull
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i try my best to switch them out and try some different ones but now that i have them all, i have 3 that i love and just keep using gatorSits

coarse scarab
pallid gull
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thank u this is suffering </3

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fun fight though

coarse scarab
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saw these comments under a video lmao

pallid gull
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me rn

languid gyro
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Can you spoil for me whether party members not in your active party still gain exp?

pallid gull
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||they do, just a lot slower||

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@languid gyro meant as a reply to your question, forgot to reply gatorSits

pallid gull
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okay i did it but kinda crazy that all i had to do was switch a teammate and also focus on audio cues instead 😭

coarse scarab
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YIPPEEE CONGRATS! what matters is you got through it in the end <3

pallid gull
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hairstyle spoiler for one of the later companions but ugh this is my fav look so far

pallid gull
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far into act 2, camp ||they're killing me... this game is killing me||

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i just realized that they added a qol

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must've been a small patch or something

pallid gull
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love this game but i wish there was a minimap bc my ass is so lost most of the time, no idea if i've been to this corner already or not gatorSits

pallid gull
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i think im gonna primarily focus on exploration for now, i feel like im getting closer and closer to the ending and im kinda dreading it lmao

green escarp
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On the bright side, I can no longer be spoiled so I can brave the internet again! Take that youtube recommendations!

hasty halo
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I have joined peak

green escarp
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my NG+ run is me with my eyeballs glued to guides because I refuse to miss anything. This will be a 100% completion game

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Lol I said "going" before I edited it out, like I didn't already spend way too long last night in NG+ already 🙃

green escarp
pallid gull
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i like that the exploration so far is literally just me getting wrecked

green escarp
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That was me for like the first 40 hrs, and now 60+ in I'm the one doing the wrecking elmofire

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That said NG+ mobs are harder than base so we'll see how long that lasts froogyS

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Ah, 63 hrs to be exact

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Shut up I don't have a problem I can stop any time I want!

pallid gull
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i have a problem!!

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the only time i stop is when i play ffx gatorSits

green escarp
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My first JRPG froogyFeelsWow

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Before that I only ever watched my older cuzzo play them

fringe walrus
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Seeing all yalls reactions lorAW cannot wait to go back this coming week

pallid gull
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pls im so excited for u to play

green escarp
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I'm excited I can watch spoiler free now! And get to sit there predicting Lorie's reactions to stuff froogySit

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Of course, work is still a thing so catching streams is still hard gatorSits

hasty halo
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I'm very excited to start this game Lorie

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Only watched a little bit of the first stream you did for the game. So other than that I'm going in completely blind xD

pallid gull
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game really good gatorSits

hasty halo
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I can't stop listening to the music on the home screen on my Ps5

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Just too good

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May have to go into my Spotify and add the soundtrack too it after I hear more of the music

languid gyro
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Oh yeah I’m 100% adding the soundtrack once I finish

green escarp
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Diving back in once I finish other stuff like checking on my FF14 house garfieldrunninginthe90s

pallid gull
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oh i should do that

keen thunder
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I'm still "behind" in the story cause I'm still subjecting myself to M6 savage raid suffering in FFXIV, so I'll just post memes here lorDERP

hasty halo
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😂🤣😂

keen thunder
keen thunder
pallid gull
# keen thunder

felt this one in my soul... had a crush on all of them except miranda bc jack was number 1 for me

hasty halo
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Same Aiden same

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Jack just felt so much more interesting to me as a character too

fringe walrus
hasty halo
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Meanwhile my weakness is anyone silver haired lol

pallid gull
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having a hard time not having lune in my part bc im in love and it doesn't feel right not to gatorSits

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languid gyro
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Depending on what the 4th party member’s kit looks like, the first I replace may end up being ||Gustave, despite him being the “MC” because he currently synergizes the least with the other two. Lune and Maelle help each other out bc Maelle likes burned enemies and can also create fire weakness for Lune, but Gustave is just kind of doing his own thing||

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||I also appear to have a ton of skills for Gustave entirely locked out though, presumably by story progression, so depending on what he gets later this may change||

pallid gull
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valid ||i really like his overcharge though, cause it's what gets me some broken mimes fast gatorSits ||

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also i wish there was a better way to sort pictos

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i know we have a sorting system but im still struggling to find things kdsjhfsd

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wait i can favorite them???

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nvm im dumb

languid gyro
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Ye that’s fair too, although ||Lune can break fine with her earth spells, and Maelle has good break with some of her physical/virtuoso skills too, so I’m probably okay there||

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Worst case I just switch characters before those fights though since I can just…do that, instead of keeping it to the same 3 forever

languid gyro
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languid gyro
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But yeah, that's why I asked you the earlier question about party exp: generally I really like when games sync everyone's levels because then I can freely switch around by situation ("oh for this area I'll swap to a more fire-focused team" or "for this boss I want to bring in a team that's better at breaking" etc.), which is something I very much enjoy doing, or by story (in BG3 I swapped team members around based on location/story beats), or just vibes

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Games that don't do that, though, make it a little harder to switch around as freely, so I find myself just sticking to the same group after settling in on a team, which is something I tend to enjoy a little less

hasty halo
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Wisteria xD

green escarp
keen thunder
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I felt bad for taking her out to try a new character clzSob but I considered building her as support to take Gustave out froogyComfy

green escarp
fluid thistle
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Ohai! Yes, I have started playing. gatorSits

languid gyro
coarse scarab
languid gyro
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But if their character writing continues to be as good as it's been, I have faith that I will love the next few characters we get just as much as the first couple

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and that's a problem

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because then I have to choose 😭

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every game should just be XC3 and let me field the whole main cast at once

coarse scarab
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i support that

green escarp
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I would love for this game to let you have everyone at once,

But also the sheer chaos it would be, especially if they balanced the enemy encounters around that froogyS

hasty halo
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Is really thinking hard about starting the game right now

languid gyro
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You should!

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but also

languid gyro
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purely out of curiosity, how many unfinished games are you currently already in the middle of playing, Shadow?

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(this isn't a roast I'm genuinely curious)

pallid gull
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getting my ass beat for the 10th time so i guess this is my cue to go grab dinner sadhamster

green escarp
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?

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Oh, Reaver. Lol

languid gyro
hasty halo
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I mean atm only AC Shadows and Oblivion

green escarp
coarse scarab
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EAT

languid gyro
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Oh that's way fewer than I thought nvm

coarse scarab
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lol

green escarp
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Lmao

coarse scarab
green escarp
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Sometimes I feel like changing my name but also, I WAS HERE FIRST lmao

hasty halo
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I've had this name since I started using discord too lol

coarse scarab
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i really wanna be playing more but i'm not feeling the best and don't want my mood to taint the gameplay experience. i also don't want to be progressing too fast i feel like i was zooming through

coarse scarab
hasty halo
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Well at first it was the same as my user on PSN but then I made it like my twitch user once they got rid of the # and numbers lol

green escarp
coarse scarab
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nods. we had our elections and the results weren't great so thats that

languid gyro
coarse scarab
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i need to track down all the mimes or look at a guide

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i think i've missed a few

languid gyro
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absolutely zero clue what french grammar looks like though so hopefully this works lmao

coarse scarab
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francepon getting a whole lot of love in this thread as opposed to the world wars going in the lads thread lorOHOHO

hasty halo
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I did watch a behind the voices video showing Ben, Jennifer and a few other voice actors that voiced characters in the game. And honestly really loved the video

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Also Jennifer talking about the character she was voicing

coarse scarab
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mr daredevil himself

hasty halo
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Also them trying to say some of the French words too

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Okay. Why am I feeling emotions and I haven't even clicked new game yet 😭😭😭

coarse scarab
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eeeeyuppp

hasty halo
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The MUSIC

coarse scarab
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good luck soldier calebSalute

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the music is stellar in this game

green escarp
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I still can't believe it was some guy they just found on Soundcloud. That's insane.
Guy must be over the moon having been discovered and everyone praising his compositions

coarse scarab
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soundcloud???

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they found a literal hidden gem then wow

green escarp
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Yep!

coarse scarab
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also getting victor borba??? is crazy??? mr bury the light himself

green escarp
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Oh shit I kept seeing soundcloud but apparently it was even more niche than that

fluid thistle
green escarp
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But there's the story posted on the game's website Mira :D

coarse scarab
coarse scarab
fringe walrus
green escarp
wheat tulip
wheat tulip
fringe walrus
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Can’t wait to learn more French cuss words SCWblushy

wheat tulip
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pikaLol i love how they pronounce it in the en dub lmao

fringe walrus
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Merde beau coup or smthn

coarse scarab
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putain

green escarp
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Can I just say I'm so happy this game has a NG+

wheat tulip
wheat tulip
green escarp
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I was so overleved (as is tradition when I play JRPGs) that by the end of the first run that aside from specific side content I was trivializing encounters.

Now the game is like "oh you think you're hot shit? Boom, everything is harder have fun"

wheat tulip
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Shadow😭😭

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Did you played in expert mode the first time?

green escarp
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This is not a bad thing I'm genuinely having so much fun lol

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No I'm still in expeditioner (normal)

wheat tulip
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Oooh i see ! Good luck!

green escarp
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I'm not that crazy lmao

wheat tulip
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Lmaoo

pallid gull
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this optional boss keeping me here for hours... get me out

green escarp
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Expert is for the people who make no hit parry only completely naked runs on YouTube xD

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This isn't shade btw, those videos are fun to watch. It will just never be me lmao

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That said, I still feel powerful AF with my current setup. I just need to tweak Lune so she goes ahead of the party so she can set up her buffs

pallid gull
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anyone else have moments where you suddenly know every parry and you get like halfway through the boss and then next run you miss everything and you forgot how to play the fawkin game

green escarp
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Yuuuuuup xD

fringe walrus
green escarp
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"You fool! I have your moves memorized!"
misses a parry and panics
"The fool is me!"

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Or to use a classic meme:

pallid gull
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me: i've memorized most of the fight, next run is the one
also me: gets one shot immediately after missing the easiest parry on the beginning

green escarp
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I would say there's no shame in coming back later when you're more prepared, but I also know you're like me and will be stubborn xD

pallid gull
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it's doable is the thing bc if the hp bar wouldn't move then i wouldn't be here, i am stubborn but not spending 100 hours stubborn raptorSits

green escarp
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Oh yeah that's happened plenty of times where I'm doing basically no dmg and went "NOPE" xD

pallid gull
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same, i've had a few bosses where i realized that i do no damage when i parried and i ran asap lmaoo

fluid thistle
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The way I wanna put the characters into alternate outfits right now but I wanna do my first playthrough in just their expedition outfits. But the temptation to use their Flowers outfits is strong. gatorSits

coarse scarab
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i wanna glam but also i wanna stay true to story

pallid gull
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i like to think as trinkets they got throughout the journey and they decided to wear it themselves

pallid gull
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outfit spoilers ||but also i cannot take any of them seriously if they're wearing the swimsuits. i tried putting redacted into it for eye candy and i didn't even last a second cause i was like this is ridiculous for immersion even if u're hot as fuck fsdkjfhsd||

pallid gull
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we went past half of the hp bar...... we're getting there

languid gyro
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I believe!

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Also, can I just say: extremely underrated but very much appreciated design choice to have the tints/potions just refresh every time you rest, instead of being single-use bc now I can actually use them instead of hoarding them forever

pallid gull
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me knowing that and still hoarding them gatorSits

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well not the revival ones bc i need those desperately 😭

fluid thistle
coarse scarab
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i’ve been hoarding the lumina points for next year apparently

fluid thistle
coarse scarab
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i should probably use them

coarse scarab
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lorie can’t wait for you to play more

pallid gull
coarse scarab
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lol that makes a lot of sense

fringe walrus
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Oh sekiro does make a lot of sense with the parrying?? I think that’s the one that is very focused on parrying

coarse scarab
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sekiro was one of the hardest games i’ve ever played but once you get into the rhythm of parrying it’s pretty smooth sailing

pallid gull
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they said their inspiration came from ffx, ffix, ffviii and sekiro: shadows die twice for the combat

coarse scarab
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need to finish sekiro…. someday

fringe walrus
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Oh ff8 is interesting?? I wonder if I haven’t seen those little touches yet

pallid gull
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honestly no idea bc it's the one ff that's still sitting in my backlog 😭

fringe walrus
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Ff8’s combat was a point of contention for a lot of people bc of the junction system. The enemies scale with your level too so overleveling actually harms you

pallid gull
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oh sekiro was specifically mentioned for the combat! i don't actually know if the rest were combat related

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Sooooo ||I got to that cutscene at the beginning. And cried so much mericCat ||

green escarp
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My knowledge of FF8 is limited but I think the Picto and Lumina system is what is drawing from FF8's junction magic

fringe walrus
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Oh shoot I haven’t gotten to the picto and lumina stuff yet ahhh I’m excited

hasty halo
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Also ||I was already tearing up beforehand while walking around gatorSits ||

pallid gull
fringe walrus
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Oh no you’re fine!! I dont mind talking about mechs at all!

green escarp
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I mean thats a mechanic that comes into play very early to be fair xD

fringe walrus
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I’m excited to see 👀

fringe walrus
pallid gull
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i'm excited to watch u play i have so many brainworms to talk about with u

coarse scarab
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is this a safe space to say i haven’t paid too much attention to my pictos 😭

green escarp
coarse scarab
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i should adjust them

pallid gull
languid gyro
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So I've been equipping pictos by stat and then using luminas for the actual effects

fringe walrus
coarse scarab
languid gyro
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speed pictos go brr

coarse scarab
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unintentionally training my skills

fringe walrus
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Effigy passed me gatorStands

hasty halo
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I've managed to somewhat get the dodging down at the start

pallid gull
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i've noticed specifically that for some optional bosses (optional boss mech spoilers) ||there's one boss specifically that i'm fighting rn where i literally cannot touch it, so i need use a bunch of aim shots pictos to get any damage done, it's fun, but they do force you at some point to do some things||

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coarse scarab
pallid gull
languid gyro
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Pictos are basically this game's equivalent of armor/equipment so they're just as important for your stats as your weapon is

green escarp
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I will say without elaborating that you can get some incredibly crazy builds going the more pictos and luminas you have

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There's so much customization

pallid gull
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luminas are pretty amazing ngl

coarse scarab
hasty halo
coarse scarab
fringe walrus
languid gyro
coarse scarab
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ok i might have to readjust my builds after i wake up lol

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pallid gull
languid gyro
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Honestly the more I dive into the game's systems the more I love it

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It's just so well put together

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coarse scarab
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aiden i think you’re great

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hasty halo
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I have a friend that still can't get the dodges and parry timings down 😭

coarse scarab
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this game really is what triple A titles should be. i realised this game can’t exactly be called ‘indie’ despite how much i wish i could lol

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what’s missing in a lot of big games from triple A titles that exists in this one is the sheer passion and labour of love that goes into it

green escarp
coarse scarab
hasty halo
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Ohhhh okay

green escarp
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We literally playing a Turn Based game that if you told me it was made by Fromsoftware, I'd believe you lmao

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The Souls/Sekiro inspiration is real

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coarse scarab
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the gothic horror inspo for a lot of the enemies too??? it’s so soulsborne core i love it

pallid gull
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basically capitalism ruins everything part 10000

wheat tulip
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Im just not ready for the hear me out cake of this game i thinkgatorStands

coarse scarab
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i wasn’t shitting on devs to be clear. just the higher ups that don’t understand games and players

pallid gull
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no, you're good!

coarse scarab
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the persona inspo is also chefs kiss

green escarp
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There's something I wanna talk about but I can't elaborate, so the most I can say is repeat the fact that clearly, Sandfall Entertainment devs love Souls games and there is a hardcore loveletter to those games in this game

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This game so good

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i was just adding to it bc i think it's a common misconception (not from you, but from a lot of people online) they think that a big problem with AAA studios is the devs and i'm just like gatorSits the overworked people that were told no over and over again when they wanted to push for a more passion focused project that doesn't have live service?

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am i bitter and thinking of how bioware was destroyed by ea? maybe.....

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wheat tulip
wheat tulip
coarse scarab
fringe walrus
# pallid gull i was just adding to it bc i think it's a common misconception (not from you, bu...

Yeah this is how I feel too. Not to bring it back to Xenoblade again but I’ll always be impressed about what monolith soft does at Nintendo. Not just for Xenoblade but everything recently they’ve helped with at Nintendo (animal crossing, Splatoon, botw, etc). a lot of AAA titles are still incredible but it’s about how much the creatives get a say in what they create and they’re not being held back by horrible ppl limiting what they can do

pallid gull
# wheat tulip Honestly you are so right i dont know what happened but that sound awful

bioware is a studio owned by ea. dragon age the veilguard came out recently and it took them 10 years because of a lot of reasons. it was stuck in covid development hell, lots of internal issues with overworking, bad working conditions, lay offs, EA forcing them to rewrite the story so they can make it live service which lead to them scrapping a big part of the story. then they pushed hard against EA to make it single player and EA accepted. game came out, it was great, not "10 years wait" great, but great, a good game that was loved by the people that was made. did not meet the unrealistic expections of 1.5mil copies (it only sold like 1mil or something)... expections that were not even met by bg3 on release. incredibly unrealistic. studio still exists but it might as well be basically dissolved because most of the major roles have been laid off right after

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E33 is a wonderful game and I’m really glad it’s doing a lot for the genre and turn based games in general. There’s a lot to praise about the game. I just see certain narratives about devs and the games industry now in regard to e33 that’s been a bit upsetting like someone coming into chat when I first played basically saying all other games have been slop compared to e33 and I’m like ??? That’s not true???

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Slop?? Huh

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You can appreciate a game without hating others wtf

fringe walrus
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Idk how they phrased it but they were very much putting e33 on a pedestal and saying other games from bigger studios have no excuse. It’s like wow you really do not understand the games industry at all

green escarp
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Not every game studio has the financial means to create their labors of love without making faustian bargains with publishers

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it also reminds of cyberpunk and cdprojekt red and how that game was in dev hell for a decade and was forced to be rushed towards the end because of investors wanting to cash in on the hype which led to one of the worst launches ever. and i was one of those who was really hyped eueueue i hate corporate greed the game is amazing i felt so bad the devs had to go through all that

pallid gull
# fringe walrus Idk how they phrased it but they were very much putting e33 on a pedestal and sa...

i had a period where i got really defensive and put bg3 on a pedestal and then i sat down and thought a bit and i was like wait... larian was allowed to do this because they were their own bosses. because they got community monetary support and backup. how many studios can say they're this lucky? most of them get bought by huge corporations and they have to work in horrible conditions wondering if they'll even have a job tomorrow if they don't meet certain targets

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Ngl i think they were really lucky to get such a good publishers😭

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I think microsoft helped a lot on e33 too right?

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Or another big one i dont remember which one

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i actually dont know who funded them

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i should check

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epic games

coarse scarab
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bandai distributes for them in asia pretty sure

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they had a lot of funding

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also it’s really insane how this game was overshadowed and ignored when it was revealed and now that it’s popular, some people are saying it’s overrated??? the nerve

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okay but ppl are so weird w that like maybe u can also like something that's universally liked what's so bad about that 😭

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I just know thats we cant buy it anymore in physical edition here 💀

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Like everything was bought

fringe walrus
# pallid gull i had a period where i got really defensive and put bg3 on a pedestal and then i...

I think that’s understandable too. BG3 was incredible and they took their time to create something like that. So many game devs don’t have that “luxury” (not saying that in a negative way btw). Idk I really feel for so many of them and I also just know there’s so many games out there that have come out that have been great too in a lot of ways. The games industry is in shambles right now, I think putting down other devs to praise another game just rubs me the wrong way and I’ve been seeing that recently.

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coarse scarab
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and it's not really about criticism, bc i think that's okay and valid and i'm sure they welcome it too. it's mostly about blanket statements like "other games are slop"

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Yeah it was like me and Derrick (who is a game dev too) trying to talk to this person like what is the point of you saying that about other games, man…

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Give this game its flowers. It absolutely deserves it but you can do that without shitting on other games/devs 😭

pallid gull
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oh was it in the e33 stream? i was probably lurking lmao

fringe walrus
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Yeah! It didn’t turn into anything malicious but I think the discussion was conducive

pallid gull
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if anything i think it's food for thought of how much wonderful art we could be getting if shareholders weren't a priority. and that's never on the devs, it's on fawkin capitalism

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i can be a bit defensive when it comes to it but i also get such an ick when people try to demand things out of devs when there are things out of their control. especially when it’s those people who don’t understand how the hierarchy works and how the industry works. oh if you only knew what goes into every single asset of a game you wouldn’t be whining or be so quick to make judgements and put down the devs

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but yea, capitalism sucks

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and i hate how much art has been devalued by so many people

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it also is, gasp. shocker. people’s jobs to make these games

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sorry if i’m not making any sense, i’m pretty eepy gatorSits

pallid gull
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no you're good!! also you should go rest

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but you're right, fuck capitalism, it should explode gatorSits

fringe walrus
pallid gull
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same gatorSits

green escarp
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Remember when EA got awarded worst company 2 years in a row?

Simpler times. Now that award has so much competition in the gaming industry alone gatorSits

pallid gull
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it's been like half a day... still getting my ass beat in the same fight gatorSits

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act 2 camp related - ||this broke me what the fawk !!! mericCat ||

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I wanna scream about how amazing this game is

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Been playing for 2 and a half hours and haven't even eaten lunch yet gatorSits

green escarp
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God dammit lol. I love Maelle but I'm trying to speed tune Lune to go first and it is simply not happening. Maelle is just naturally so damn fast compared to her that not matter what stat combination I try (without messing up my builds for them) Lune will never catch up 🙃

hasty halo
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My only problem is figuring out what attributes to focus on for the characters I have so far lol

green escarp
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A tip I can give for stat allocation is pay attention to what Weapon you have, because each one buffs two attributes

hasty halo
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Ohhh yeah that's what I was thinking

green escarp
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So while its not as important early game, you're going to find a weapon you really like and start building around it

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Especially because each weapon also have different passives (the starter ones don't and those will be replaced almost immediately lol)

hasty halo
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Yeah already replaced Gustave's lol

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God I wanna put the ost onto my Spotify but I'll wait till I'm further in before doing so because I wanna hear the songs in the game

green escarp
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Wait I got into a fight and Lune went first this time

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nani

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just when I thought I understood this game

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act 2 combat mechanic - ||lmaooo it never ends does it||

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How I felt before getting off the game and making food

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Because I wanted to keep playing xD

languid gyro
# green escarp just when I thought I understood this game

Not sure if this is the issue for you, but I've anecdotally found that the first turn order tends to generally follow the order that members were added to your party (take everyone off except the person you want first, then add the other two in order)

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And then after first turn agility makes more of a difference in shifting order around

green escarp
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Ok adding them in and out doesn't seem to change it one way or another

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Maybe I did my respec right after all

languid gyro
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Was worth a shot, figured it was just anecdotal on my end

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I wonder the speed difference needs to be for it to be consistent

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Bc I've noticed that if two characters have similar-but-not-exactly-same speeds, it's more of a toss-up

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So I really want to know the difference breakpoint at which it's generally guaranteed

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act 2 camp cutscene - ||i just love it when womentakemylove flowers ||

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||Her||

green escarp
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I FIGURED IT OUT
If I just run into enemies normally, Lune goes first
but if I hit them with the first strike before getting into battle, Maelle goes first

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I don't know why

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but that seems to be whats happening atm

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hasty halo
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She really is!!

green escarp
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Hang on a sec though I'm gonna test a thing. Amphy might be on to something

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Ok nope, party member order doesn't matter lol

languid gyro
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Alright I'll check that off the list, thanks for testing lol

pallid gull
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i did it and i went up several levels...... i guess i was not meant to do it now but wtv!!

languid gyro
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Is this the one you were stuck on?

pallid gull
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i got stuck on 2 today

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a main story boss and and an optional one that i just finished now

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also omfg i just got a really high level weapon from it catSpin

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hell yeah

languid gyro
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hell yeah!

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speaking of weapons.... the way I'm handicapping myself by hoarding all my weapon-upgrade stones (and lumina-increasing stones) because what if I spend them on the wrong weapon because I find a better one soon after, or I spend them on the wrong character because I get a new one and switch out the one I boosted soon after 💀

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why am I like this

pallid gull
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i did the same thing gatorSits

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hair/outfit spoilers but also might be spoilers for companion for some that are just starting

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new fav look dropped

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this is really specific but i wish this game had map markers

green escarp
pallid gull
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just so i can be like "come back later here eve n if you discovered this place cause you got your ass beat and you need to defeat this when you're stronger"

pallid gull
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||i've been so fond of curly hair on her gatorSits she's so cute||

green escarp
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I had to remember what an Artist Palette was called to find the emote for it 😅

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Anyway, new server name ^_^

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ohh good idea 🏃‍➡️

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exploration spoilers/question ||does anyone know how to get to this vendor am i just losing it 😭 ||

green escarp
pallid gull
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ohhh okay thank you!

hasty halo
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Okay. Done with my late lunch now to continue

pallid gull
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oh for qols, i also wish they would make it more obvious what pictos we've already learned or not

hasty halo
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I kind of want a photo mode xD

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big act 2 spoilers ||oh these devs are evil||

wheat tulip
wheat tulip
pallid gull
wheat tulip
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I saw there was an update yeah!

pallid gull
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unless maybe it always existed and i was unaware 😭 which is possible

wheat tulip
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I wonder what is it about

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||expedition flags now tp you to the continent map||

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unless that's always been a thing

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but i swear i didn't see it first day

wheat tulip
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They already did it yesterday ? So idk

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||isnt it because we are on the islands rn?||

pallid gull
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no idea 😭

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fluid thistle
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Ok. I hath eaten and now I go back to game and be emotional. gatorSits

wheat tulip
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Enjoy wisteria j'espère que tu kifferas!

hasty halo
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Same wisteria. I just had a late lunch so am back to the game

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Wow. I am really loving this dodge mechanic

fluid thistle
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Merci beaucoup, Rain! Also, I just turned on the French voices. pikaLol

languid gyro
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[Act 1] ||huh????||

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||well shit I guess I know who our 4th party member is now||

pallid gull
languid gyro
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||omg tarot?? Lorie's gonna flip 🌟 ||

wheat tulip
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||She sure will ||

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||love playing her shes so strong||

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||tarot go brr||

green escarp
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Lmao love the name shadow

green escarp
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I may be a tad obsessed 😅

wheat tulip
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Its so funny lol

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Shadow of light

green escarp
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Oh right that's what it literally translates to lmao

languid gyro
green escarp
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I was just thinking "I need a name based off this game, oh I know I can work the city's name into it"

wheat tulip
wheat tulip
hasty halo
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Okay yeah. This game definitely is starting to show some difficulty xD

languid gyro
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||Thematically, she's giving Astrologian, but reading through the kit, mechanically it's actually kinda giving FF14 Red Mage||

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||wait that's kinda neat actually||

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||also, turn delay? 👀 ||

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||oh, just everything, okay lmao||

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||so much for keeping Gustave around as my buffer lmao||

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||wait THIS is crazy good, basically HSR Bronya||

wheat tulip
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||You are reading through her skill tree?||

green escarp
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||although my case with Lune is a bit more cheesey because I have it work off this skill||

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||so I have a setup that makes her go twice, first I get her AP through basic attacking, then I cast this, and because it can go for 3 to 5 turns by itself it keeps refreshing the buffs :D||

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Also... This optional boss I found is wrecking me. gatorSits

wheat tulip
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The french dub is really good as well

hasty halo
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Well. I finally got a weapon for Lune

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No more default weapon for her lol

green escarp
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Act 1 Boss Fight (NG+) ||Ancient Sanctuary||

||Once again experiencing peak music catJAM ||

languid gyro
wheat tulip
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Honestly i should too

languid gyro
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The way I'm getting such intense decision paralysis over teamcomp now that I have to actually pick though 😭

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I'm most likely gonna ||replace Gustave and go Sciel, Maelle, Lune though||

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But I'm gonna eat dinner first and come back to it later lmao

wheat tulip
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Enjoy your food!!

hasty halo
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Am watching behind the music video for the game

hasty halo
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Time for me to continue playing

hasty halo
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The hair physics in this game are so good

wheat tulip
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Enjoyy

green escarp
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Act 1 (NG+) Optional Boss (can be fought as early as Act 1 but it is not recommended) ||Gestral Village|| ||Golgra||
||GET FUCKED!!! snowyBattle ||

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||Holy shit though she's even harder in NG+. I had to change up Maelle's build a bit just to not get oneshot (since my usual builds are built around the whole team)||

coarse scarab
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act 2 ||old lumiere, monoco just wanted to show off mericCat when he was crying stoppp ||

hasty halo
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Gonna play more tomorrow

coarse scarab
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major mid act 2 spoilers ||NOCOOO mericCat i hate this game i hate it i hate it i hate it. i’m also so curious what’s maelle’s connection to renoir. verso’s his son??? who exactly is alicia??? my thoughts are they’re somehow the same person or related??? maelle seems to be connected to the manor and i can’t tell if verso was calling maelle, alicia or if he was calling for that person from inside the manor eugh ||

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this entire section was SCspin

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mid act 2 hypotheses ||i have a feeling the paintress and maelle are somehow connected. from the conversations we’ve had with fading people, it seems like whatever she paints can come to life? and maybe something she painted went horrible wrong that caused the fracture.

thinking if there’s been reincarnations of the paintress and the main one is stuck painting the numbers on the monolith. and maelle could be one of those reincarnations? it’s a bit frustrating that they refuse to tell maelle anything even at this point after learning verso’s related to renoir||

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||renoir’s fight was also really rough but fun lol. got my ass handed to me until i swapped my team members up. i’ve learnt that i just don’t really enjoy maelle in combat all that much ||

coarse scarab
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nvm don’t perceive me they reveal more back in camp hahaha mid act 2 ||alicia is his sister. makes sense. i feel dumb dumb now lol||

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@pallid gull @wheat tulip ||just arrived at sirene, this place is beautiful. the danger sign at the entrance will NAWT stop me. also idky but this place also reminds me so much of lemuria and raf... gorgeous ||

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Not surprised lol good luck !

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I just went there so ill probably cant read any spoiler you will say after😭

coarse scarab
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||i did the other axon first so idk actually 😭||

pallid gull
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i have some theories

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however i fear that i might be right so maybe i should not share them gatorSits read them at your own risk, big act 2 spoilies ||i feel like maelle is alicia. it would also make sense why when when she interfered against renoir, verso yelled "alicia" when she struck him. it would also explain why she was considered an "unwanted" baby by her parents. because i don't think they actually had her, i think they found her. now why would there be two alicias? no idea, but im assuming it has to do with the paintress. cause another theory of mine is that no one really "dies", instead they get reincarnated as nevrons (the talking ones especially are proof of that). sirene also had a very odd connection with lune and maelle kept repeating that the dance is familiar (which is the dance you see in lumiere at the beginning im pretty sure). i wouldn't be surprised if maelle is a "copy" of alicia designed by the paintress||

coarse scarab