the-tavern

[empty bane]

driver might be fine btw, could just be but signature data

bad

well you could check for update to bios

[chrome raft]

Where's that

[empty bane]

see if you have the latest version first

manufacturers website generally for the laptop or the motherboard, you can check the bios version in msinfo or in the bios itself

[fleet cape]

Ima msg you

[reef hawk]

Does banshee have any notable drops that make her worth farming?

[empty bane]

idk does she even drop artifacts?

no right?

or was that just a bug for one season?

[fleet cape]

Could be worth if you’re also doing spectral in the same raid

[fleet cape]

But by itself I don’t personally think it’s worth

[reef hawk]

I just wasn’t sure if she had any crafting items that made it justified

[empty bane]

she has the sonnet for the magic book you can make but I dunno if its worth much

[reef hawk]

With spectral obviously you get the benefit of getting the bag piece and the loot but with her she doesn’t seem to have much reason to farm her

[empty bane]

well it opens the pile

if you do both

[fleet cape]

Yeah the only good reason would be to unlock middle room with gold pile/ruby ore etc

[chrome raft]

Heard

[reef hawk]

That combined with the fact everyone within a 2 mile radius can hear you fighting her

[fleet cape]

Check msgs buddy

[cedar igloo]

WHY I CANT SPECTATING?

[oblique hemlock]

hey im having trouble with one part of my driver and i cant get it to work to enable my mem integrity, Ive uninstalled, updated, rolled back and i cant get it function properly. any help would be awesome

its the silly little RTKVHD64.sys

[copper rapids]

what class is broken this season?

[queen torrent]

i would recommend just using the internet/gpt but you can maybe just simply delete it from ur system32 folder/if that doesnt work then you have to do some console stuff

which i would use the internet cause i dont know the commands

[oblique hemlock]

I went through the sys commands as well and it wasnt able to locate it, but I can find it manually which is weird

even through safe boot

[queen torrent]

it wont let you delete it ?

[empty bane]

I wouldnt delete that file

assuming you have realtek audio

if you had realtek audio in the past and didnt fresh install windows

and dont have it now, you can delete it

[queen torrent]

wait yeah if that is a realtek driver then you might have to figure out how to update it if you need it

[cedar igloo]

now blackscreen need to restart

wtf is going wrong

[timber raptor]

My report numbers turned yellow

[oblique hemlock]

ive already gone through my mother boards driver updates and got them extracted and reinstalled

[empty bane]

you could uninstall the realtek audio drivers, and then put on HVCI

and then restart windows and have it autodetect what drivers it wants to use for the audio

is it possible it was for an old piece of hard ware?

[oblique hemlock]

well even with it gone its still saying its an issue lmao

[empty bane]

please bring back random pugs

[rain wave]

is white gear quest out yet ?

[empty bane]

no

Thursday apparently

[azure snow]

all I ever wanted from this game was morbidly pregnant goblin men with big fat cheeks that made plopping noises as the ran bare-cheeked down the wet-walled stony goblin caves. Why cant we get cheeked up preggoblins? Better yet, why cant we get wizards that are even OLDER and VICIOUSLY CLOSE TO DYING OF OLD AGE, but with FRESH LATE-TERM preggar bellies, with no blemishes and perfect skin, while the rest of their bodies are sucked in like raisins, as if the preg was draining their life force, and with even LONGER white beards, whiters and longer and older, just there defensless in the cold stone cobblestone crypts, just so scared and so alone and wishing and praying for atrong goblin arms to wrap around them and hold them and keep them safe.
WHY CANT WE HAVE THIS IN GAME

[empty bane]

wait WHAAAAAT

you can only enhance items found by the specific character, not even all your own bros?

[azure snow]

WHYYY

[lime hinge]

ur weird asf

[empty bane]

who else thinks they should regress the map

to being more locale styled and less accurate

[acoustic pivot]

what them words mean

[empty bane]

so like the keep on ruins for example is just like a picture of a keep

and the tower bridge etc

[acoustic pivot]

you want the map to be less mappy

[empty bane]

rather than an exact layout

ye

more approximate

[thick lintel]

why tf is the twitch drops not working?

[empty bane]

did they end?

[fringe totem]

havent been able to buy luck pots for almost a day fk this game sucks

[empty bane]

its every 2 dungeons bro

[fringe totem]

ive done at least over 30 dungeons with no luck pots my gob and huntress hasnt changed for almost 16 hours and the new daily quest arent showing up its still the ones from yesterday

[empty bane]

are you on the test server?

[fringe totem]

no..

[empty bane]

then son, I gotta tell you, you have a 'condition'

[fringe totem]

yeah the game is dogsht thanks for confirming that

[empty bane]

no like I think you need dev help

[fringe totem]

ahh right lemme hit up sdf

[karmic fern]

https://tenor.com/view/oil-up-gif-12933914687667878981

[oblique hemlock]

Well, turns out the hardest problems require the simplest solution sometimes. I just did a quick search in my files for the rtkvhd and saw there are duplicates of it with each with a different update. After uninstalling all the others it works now

[crimson vigil]

They dont even make a difference

[fringe totem]

luck is good now

[empty bane]

ye max roll on big luck pot is noticeable

even with no luck gear

[gentle dome]

where is the golden key room in inferno?

[empty bane]

i didnt know thre was one

[torpid comet]

why do my merchants take like 24 hrs to restock/reset?

[gentle dome]

i heard someone mention it in repoze stream last night

[chrome raft]

FELLAS FELLAS!!! I DONE DID IT

[timber raptor]

My report numbers turned yellow

[empty bane]

hold up

are you an HR enjoyer?

[main badge]

I am NOT a hard R enjoyer >:0

[deep ravine]

where can i find a centaur now? still inferno?

[tight sierra]

Have you tried restarting client/hopping characters?

[hazy hawk]

Pregnant Chinese Men In The Crypts with Fat Pregnant Feet Slapping On The Dungeon Floor 🫃 🫃 🫃 🫃

[crimson vigil]

I love how they made warlock take 50% of your HP with one curse of pain

[hallow lagoon]

When is no more wipes?

[tight sierra]

Wrong game

[fringe totem]

yes

[strange cipher]

your missing out

[bold lichen]

Is there a diminishing returns on magical power bonus ?

[boreal pier]

goddamn I love playing double jump rogue

[empty bane]

what if we could scrap in dungeon

[bold lichen]

Is workshop worth it ? Been wondering that ..... for Arena purposes 😄

[empty bane]

for arena? Probably not

[wind juniper]

workshop only really works well with expensive shit that you could reroll

[bold lichen]

Cant I make gear from blue to purple ... to make +3 +3 +3 maybe ? If the gear was +3 +3 as blue ?

[empty bane]

well also if you get say a purple with 3 good rolls

you can upgrade it to legendary

[bold lichen]

Haha, will do that once Arena goes to legendary I guess xD !

[empty bane]

sure but I think all the gear you want is bis crafted epic anyway?

[deep ravine]

why does the fire deep on GC feel like the loot/rooms are so bad? Like theres nothing to loot, i dont find a lot of gold chests, no gold piles. If you're not going to kill the magma golem boss, theres like 0 point to that map

is there something im missing with this map loot-wise? Without the boss why go there instead of crypts/inferno, ice caverns or even water map.
GC floor 1 is the pvp map but, firedeep just feels pointless lol

[wind juniper]

yes you’re hoping for the last one but you’d be guaranteed the 3/3, only problem is they made upgrades require the item to be minted i think?

[bold lichen]

True .... can I use them in workshop ?

[wind juniper]

so you’d have to find the 3/3 yourself

[bold lichen]

Ah fk, workshop sounds like grief then 🙁

[empty bane]

maybe you can rerool your crap rolls on crafted?

never tried that tho

if you hate SSF though its great

gives you something to do with all the loot you find you cant use

[oak ember]

maps not finished, they said they are still flushing it out

[bold lichen]

True, cheers Jeeves, may give it a go, see what I can make happen 😄

[empty bane]

firedeep will feel better as a 5 x 5

[reef monolith]

Does anyone know if the new lobby skin from the dlc is going to be an exclusive like the 6th and 7th dlcs or is it going to be like the 8th dlc which u could later buy from the store?

[deep ravine]

ah ok, thats good to know. Bc its a cool map but...theres just nothing there interesting to loot or find. Theres more gold chests on 1st floor maps and i think 0 piles? unless theres one i dont know about

and i swear the loot there doesnt feel as good as other 2nd/3rd floors in general either

but that could be a bias/placebo/me thing

[empty bane]

can we make it so we can wield bavin?

all logs actually, and can they randomly spawn as well, could be fun for zero to hero runs

[lilac path]

2 times i got the "bug" when fighting someone, all my buttons are stuck, cant do anyhing than move. cant press attack, F (open door), anything. Is that common? never got that before

[empty bane]

did you get disarmed?

[rocky raft]

I JUST WANT TO PLAY HIGHROLLER OMG YOU DEVS ARE DOGPISS

[lilac path]

Jeeves Yes!

weapon are still at my hand, and i cant do anything to get "out" from it.

[empty bane]

just switch to secondary weapon and back

[steady briar]

I have officially reached my limit. After 67 hours (yes I checked, don’t try to invalidate my experience), I can confidently say this game is fundamentally broken at its core. The fact that a Rogue can simply EXIST in the same lobby as me completely invalidates my entire playstyle. I am a THINKING player. I position. I calculate. And yet I am punished for it by someone holding W and pressing two buttons.

Before anyone says “skill issue,” I want you to understand I have played competitive games for over 10 years. I hit Diamond in multiple titles (not that it matters, but it does). This is not about skill. This is about DESIGN FAILURE.

If the devs do not address this IMMEDIATELY, I will be uninstalling. And no, this is not an empty threat. I already hovered over the uninstall button twice today.

[empty bane]

maybe, or maybe you got silenced

[lilac path]

i met a fighter atleast second time and he used it cause i rec the sound, but cant switch weapons, well lucky that i was in bad gear so no loss 🙂

time to gear a fighter with disarm

[zenith blade]

running around killing people in squire is the equivalent to roofcamping nakeds. Get a grip

[bold lichen]

Rogue perma-silenced him 🙁

[hybrid sequoia]

sounds like you hate MDR stat too

[turbid crest]

grip these nuts

[urban remnant]

gottem

[chrome raft]

@jeeves yea I can enjoy high roller now. Courtesy of @kin

[tawny timber]

what in the actual fuck in this optimization

[empty bane]

what was the fix

[zenith blade]

Eat your crayons

[round lagoon]

is there any other way to play high roller without having to buy tpm firmware or did the timmy devs banish my pc from a portion of the game

[empty bane]

on one hand weaver cant play, on the other hand 75% of cheat engines no longer function

[heavy fulcrum]

This whole secure boot set up is fucking ridiculous. No matter what I try to enable secure boot it literally refuses to take. It keeps telling me I need to restart after disabling CSM or whatever the hell its called, but after doing that my bios screen is black on boot up.

[empty bane]

yeah if you are using CSM you need to switch to GPT

so thats a fresh install, I'd just gran a 120gb ssd for like $20 and stick your os on thre as the boot drive

[round lagoon]

I just don't see why this game in particular has to give me issues when the large majority of other games solve this issue without that, actually troll

[empty bane]

more games and os going this way

[round lagoon]

and all that for not even a 100% impossible to cheat game

[empty bane]

The cheats that are left require DMA which = 2 pcs

so significantly less

[heavy fulcrum]

Im not paying ANOTHER 20 dollars for a game that I could play before just for them to have one of the worst anti cheat systems I've ever encountered. Honestly this game just lost me after I just started to get back into it after 2 seasons of not playing. Classic Ironmace shooting themselves in the foot.

[empty bane]

ok, I guess we will see you when you get around to updating your pc from CSM to UEFI in 2029 broseph#

[heavy fulcrum]

This game isnt making it to 2029 brother lmao

[empty bane]

well you can tell that to the 8 people who are still playing then

[round lagoon]

doesn't really deserve to at this rate

[leaden python]

@lofty gate

rise and shine

[fleet cape]

🙂 I got u

[pure vale]

am i the only one having terrible fps this wipe compared to other wipes?

[empty bane]

what was the fix

[wind juniper]

why wouldn’t he be able to just cmd prompt the drive from mbr to gpt

[fleet cape]

To follow the steps necessary to enable secure boot on your particular motherboard.

[vast heath]

That doesn't stop me from playing 6 runs of 4k per hour, getting tons of artifacts, defeating all the bosses solo, obtaining multiple chests, and having a full inventory for all my characters. Am I an addict with over 7000 k hrs? Yes, but cheaters never affected my progress, and not being able to play because of that is ridiculous.

[empty bane]

ok

[empty bane]

every time he tries he gets bluescreen

[vast heath]

It's completely unfair that, after dedicating 7070 hours to their product, I can't play now because my hardware is outdated. I could enjoy the game without any problems, and now I have to upgrade my motherboard? It's disappointing. Look at how the player base is shrinking. If this continues, they're going to lose another player, and one of their oldest.

[vast heath]

The problem is the people who respect the rules; we're the ones who follow them. I have 7080 hr of gameplay; they can easily verify the legitimacy of my account and my playstyle. And for this why I can't play anymore. I don't plan on spending money on this right now, especially since I'm from Latin America. Basically, they took away my legendary titles and now I'm a freetoplay.

[wind juniper]

rip that’s what i was worried about changing my drive over but it went smooth 🙏

[fleet cape]

Word of advice for people who are struggling to enable secure boot:

find motherboard model number
ask chatgpt for step by step instructions on how to enable secure boot on your particular board

then if u have problems even after following all the steps, prompt it to give you a troubleshooting guide.

AI works wonders if you know which questions to ask 🙂

[tawny timber]

why is everyone on druid now

[wind juniper]

can ai make me a girlfriend

[heavy fulcrum]

or just have basic googling skills and not be a compleatly lazy waste of space

[empty bane]

also I dont know if he has an ssd anyway

[leaden python]

AI is oyur girlfriend if you try hard enough

[fleet cape]

it can make you anything your heart desires

[empty bane]

and I dont think he wants to wipe his drive

[cedar igloo]

please ban BjornIronsideDie he is streamsniping with his ranger friend on solo hr.

[versed sleet]

do you not get stuff back from the express man if you die on the next level??

[fleet cape]

AI is good for skipping the step of scrolling thru a bunch of pointless shit to find what you actually need. 🙂

[wind juniper]

i want a 3ft sleepy joe replica

[sonic heart]

Alright, can we just remove troll pelt drop from the troll one PVE?
It's super annoying when you are trying to practice and farmers show up and ruin your flow, or often they will have killed the troll by within the first 3 minutes of the match.
These guys should risk it for boss drops, PVE should be for practice, not farming boss drops safe from PVP.

[wind juniper]

but he has to be asleep

[empty bane]

problem with AI is it just sometimes makes stuff up

few times troubleshooting its like yep, can totally do this, just do a b c

[wind juniper]

google ai in particular makes everything it says up

[fleet cape]

Hmmmmm….. he might be evolving. Now apply this logic to nakeds in HR

[empty bane]

then 40 mins later, BRO are you sure? No actually you cant do that lmao

[fleet cape]

it worked for the guy I helped earlier 🙂 maybe it’s a skill issue on ur part

[sonic heart]

I never talked about HR at any point?

[fleet cape]

Never said ya did 😂

[wind juniper]

well i don’t actively use google ai, but the auto ai you get when doing a standard search be buggin

[vast heath]

He’s talking about people with no risk playing HRs with no risk other than the 100g ante. Probably would need a minimum gear requirement for that

[heavy fulcrum]

It took exactly 30 seconds for me to google, "how to enable secure boot" and the first link was a video with EVERY major motherboard type on it

[empty bane]

I still rather ask the AI

for the specific motherboard

and get it to pull the manual at the same time

[sonic heart]

Okay, but i am talking about one thing and you bring up another.
Not that you are wrong, but it's not what i was talking about. So talking about me "evolving" seems odd

[fleet cape]

Precisely what I’m talking about. And they need to assign minimum gold values to each piece of gear and make a minimum gold value requirement to be able to queue into HR. Not gear score. Just flat out gold value of your gear. Other games make it so your loadout has to be worth a certain amount of money on the market before you can queue into certain maps. Should be the exact same system for HR. Not just pay a small amount of insignificant gold

[wind juniper]

if the ai is your girlfriend you have to ask her first

[empty bane]

nuh uh my gf is super hot and totally real bro

you wouldn't know here though, she lives in another town

[sonic heart]

Yeah she is just on a different discord server!

[empty bane]

totally, wouldnt come into a discord server like this full of L takes

[fleet cape]

All the squire HR spammers in here suddenly quiet as hell 😂😂😂😂😂😂 shitters

[sonic heart]

lmao

[sonic heart]

Well because they are currenly squire kit spamming HR

[empty bane]

I run naked HR all the time for buy back money

its good

[sonic heart]

Acutally is

[fleet cape]

Yeah you’re a plague to the game can’t wait until that doesn’t get changed 😂

[sonic heart]

Good for money

[empty bane]

good for money and maximises slot efficiency for AP gain

[fleet cape]

turns out normals gives AP too 🙂 take ur squire kit there instead 🙂

[empty bane]

nah you can swap out the squire kit for a full set of legendaries AND have an inventory full of epic + treasures

we are talking 1.5k AP per run broski

[fleet cape]

HR shouldn’t be filled with gear fear broke Timmies brotha sorry that is not how high roller works fundamentally 😂

[empty bane]

but it is how it works in practice

[tidal eagle]

whats the issue of running squire in HR lol

[fleet cape]

Just because it’s allowed doesn’t mean it’s not shit 😂

[sonic heart]

Bro is making me act up in my squire kit on HR with those numbers 🤑

[empty bane]

Just because you dont believe in the facts, you cant stop the facts

[fleet cape]

Taking up slots of people that could actually have something of value to risk and not just running in naked wasting people’s time, that’s precisely why there’s a PVE, Normals AND SR queue 😂

[rose smelt]

Why when I launch the game in 1280x960 does the screen not scale properly?

[strange igloo]

what mob drops magic staff more frequently?

[sonic heart]

Skeleton mage i would assume

[unreal garnet]

it is tho. Ideally, no, its not. however, Ironboof isnt able to implement ideal, they can only offer tradgedy

[empty bane]

I dunno why you would run the game in that resolution

[rose smelt]

Easier to run and I prefer stretched res

[tidal eagle]

i dont see how thats an issue HR mobs are different from normal people wanna learn

[fleet cape]

Ah Ranger main spotted. Cringe as hell stretched res 💀

[tidal eagle]

I do squire kit and bosses

[rose smelt]

How is stretched res cringe 😭

my game since the new upd has been running like shit

and my pc is dece

[empty bane]

what is your gpu?

[rose smelt]

1660Ti

[sonic heart]

You're playing wide dark and darker?

[rose smelt]

Yurr its not scaling properly

[empty bane]

what happens when you run in like 1440p type reso

better or worse?

[rose smelt]

When I run normal 1080p it scales fine but it doesnt run very well anymore sadly

[empty bane]

no you want to go beyond 1080

[fleet cape]

Maybe they should’ve kept HR pve mode for u lil bro 😂 not a good enough reason to take away the high roller aspect from the high roller mode 💀💀💀

[rose smelt]

My monitor doesn't support beyond 1080p

[sick hatch]

does anyone have the exact drop rates for artifacts from each pile?

[empty bane]

ok

[fleet cape]

If you queue into the HIGH ROLLER MODE and only find NAKED BUMS how do you even consider it a high roller lobby? Because the loots better but you risk nothing to get it? 😂

[sweet elk]

[empty bane]

you should be fine at 1080 with that card, but I take it you put HVCI on? thats gonna knock down older cpus a little

and cause some performance issues

[tidal eagle]

if u wanna pvp that bad u can always do arena/ 100% my rating is higher than yours

[rose smelt]

I do indeed, my cpu is pretty bad esp bc ive overheated it years ago. Still runs games well though, just having an issue with DaD this new season. i5-10400F

[fleet cape]

LOL ARENA BECAUSE UR SCARED TO RISK ANYTHING HAHAHAHA

[sweet elk]

I love dark and darker so much!

[lyric spoke]

womp womp womp

[tidal eagle]

I just ran a full legendary kit and killed warlord lol

[rose smelt]

I prefer playing games in stretched though either way, just trying to figure out how I can run it stretched without it not scaling off screen

[fleet cape]

Naked HR until arena and then never risk anything for the whole season hahahahahaha buddy wants to play fortnite or league 😂😂

[lyric spoke]

i love you more

[sonic heart]

Bro, you been in here complaning for hours now

take a break

[cedar igloo]

i go naked and i risk everything and i kill people full geared 500+ wym going naked is fun

[sweet elk]

[empty bane]

but you arent risking anything bro lmao

its like bro if I can kill you in squire, you want me to bring my good stuff to kill you faster, like what

[fleet cape]

And you shouldn’t even have the opportunity to go into the highest level mode as a naked squire kit… 😂😂😂

[fleet cape]

U might be the most dense person in this discord 😂 they don’t kill shit they take up slots that could have actual geared players wanting to risk their gear and play the mode how it should be played 💀

[empty bane]

never seen this behaviour

[cedar igloo]

why lol?

[tidal eagle]

I dont see why hes so upset prob lost this bis to a squire barb

[fleet cape]

Bc it’s the highest level mode in the game and you have 3 other modes you can run naked into that are actually meant for low/no gear 😂😂💀💀💀💀💀

[empty bane]

nah I dunno its like actually geared people are playing duo and trios

[candid geyser]

We love 225 HR being nothing but locks and traps rogues doing nothing but opening all the golden chests and ratting key rooms in base gear

[fleet cape]

Wanting to fight people wearing actual gear instead of pissers like you running around naked and broke scared to fight or risk anything

[tidal eagle]

duo is prob the most geared teammode besides trios

[empty bane]

ye

[sonic heart]

true, but duos/trios are for people with friends

[wraith badge]

Lol, this is the definition of a skill issue

[empty bane]

solos is a much more careful game mode in general

you die its done

[median beacon]

Squire load outs shouldn’t be allowed in hr for sure

[tidal eagle]

literally just told you I ran a full legendary kit and killed warlord not my fault im good and ur not

[cedar igloo]

but i want more legendarys and artifacts?

[boreal pier]

solos just sucks it's like 100% just rogues in squire lol

[fleet cape]

Another Naked pisser has entered the chat 🫡

[wraith badge]

I've found it's actually the more aggressive one

[wraith badge]

Lol, this is an L take

[empty bane]

if you are naked or hunting nakeds

[wraith badge]

Even when I'm naked, people tend to go for the pvp more

[median beacon]

To each their own but there’s more reasons it shouldn’t compared to reasons it should

[empty bane]

you know what happens when you are like Gear score/Item score/Gold value? People just by like 5 halberds and enter the match

[carmine latch]

Community note - my bad for jumping the gun, reinstalling dad now. Someone let me know what the safe boot is and i realized I had to turn it on for windows 11 so i got updated to windows 11 and am safe boot enabled. Sorry for being so upset initially @hexed adder

[fleet cape]

BasedChad has entered the chat 🔥

[carmine cipher]

anyone know where i can find long swords pretty consistently ?

[carmine latch]

Once again I now have windows 11 installed cause of this so good looking out, be more clear about what it is though so we dont think you are trying to hack us

[fleet cape]

Living Armour

[wraith badge]

Not really, by definition it's risk vs reward. They risk getting steamrolled by gear diff

[empty bane]

yeah but in good gear vs good gear you want to win and have something to lose, so you play more careufl, But in duos/trios your team can res you/save your gear so they can afford to be more aggressive in good gear

[wild torrent]

just fell throgh the map as a rat lol

[fleet cape]

It’s not risk in every fucking sense of the word brother 😂

[empty bane]

Living Armor and Skeleton 2 handed sword bros

[median beacon]

Wish there was a mog emoji

[sand burrow]

how is the walk bug still in the game smh

[wraith badge]

Lol, gear doesn't really apply to HR, except for when you're trying to get it out

[median beacon]

They risk absolutely nothing is what you don’t understand

Oh no I lost my squire kit

[fleet cape]

Buddy’s only been playing a few months don’t listen to his shit opinions anyways

[wraith badge]

I don't think you understand how risk vs reward works

Yeah, they're not bringing in their own gear. So what? They have a lower chance of winning fights, or even making it out with whatever gear or boss loot they gained

[sonic heart]

You don't understand, my squire kit is BIS

[cedar igloo]

fr

[empty bane]

I dont mean to brag but I have 3 Hold the line copies

[cedar igloo]

and u loose 100g with heals xd

[wraith badge]

Not to mention, when the AP grind wasn't account bound, you actually grinded faster by coming in squire and bringing out the gear on your body

[wind juniper]

oh boy tigerstar with another loud and incorrect opinion 🍿

[wraith badge]

So you had more ap to lose, and time to waste

[fleet cape]

It’s not about the chance of winning fights 😂 you shouldn’t even be allowed to enter the mode naked at all so who cares about the chance of winning a fight? Ur naked risking nothing so u just flat out shouldn’t be in the high risk mode 😂 it’s really that simple

[strange cipher]

not being able to go in squire just makes people buy a few of the cheapest epics on the market to get in

[wind juniper]

there is no risk in risking nothing, hope that helps

[median beacon]

You understand that these people often don’t loot anything or bring heals in and will just play rogue or Druid waiting to third party so they literally do not risk anything

[tawny vine]

Who is best healer early game? I'm just starting and cant decide between druid or cleric

[strange cipher]

does absoultely nothing to increase the risk

[wind juniper]

yeah they’d need to circumvent the ratting problem another way

[wraith badge]

You really don't understand the extraction genre. Part of the point is to bring in nothing and make it big

[median beacon]

Like I can queue in right now and just grief people doing the boss what am I risking just ruining the experience for others

[cedar igloo]

fr

[wraith badge]

One experience you may have had, does not the entire circumstance make

[median beacon]

There are two game modes where you can get great loot doing this

[fleet cape]

And that’s why gearscore system is piss and needs to be replaced with a better system, similar to games like ABI where you have to worth a certain amount of GOLD to get into the map.

[tidal eagle]

he prob dies to pve not worth arguing

[wind juniper]

who’s gonna tell blud this is no longer an extraction game

[wraith badge]

Technically there's 4

[median beacon]

You are a new player if you think this experience is uncommon

[strange cipher]

dawg what modes are you getting anything near as good as in hr

[fleet cape]

easy copout from someone so incorrect

[median beacon]

Have you seen squire to riches ?

[wraith badge]

This just wouldn't work, as it's gear score by proxy

As there's no way you could realistically account for the market prices

[strange cipher]

norms loot is shit pve is shit and that squire to riches mode has a like 1/10000 to get a arti

[cedar igloo]

yeah but imagine u are full geared and u want to fight full geared people to get their gear but he is naked and 3 stupid nakeds that are not scaried because they have nothing just chasing you and u died.

[median beacon]

Oh my bad I guess you need an artifact to get anything good out of s2r

[wraith badge]

Over 900 hours my guy

[strange cipher]

last time I played it the loot was terrible

[median beacon]

And when was this?

[strange cipher]

the occasional leg or epic but not worth the time it takes to get anything decent

[fleet cape]

Yeah actually. You can. The devs can EASILY assign a MINIMUM gold value to all base pieces of all rarities with no maximum.

[median beacon]

Little guppy

[strange cipher]

last wipe

[fleet cape]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 buddy is green

[wraith badge]

Yeah, and sometimes I fall into the void going after the wyvern.

It doesn't make me wish they removed everything simply because I'm playing badly

[median beacon]

Maybe play the game mode again brotha

They changed it

If you didn’t know…

[strange cipher]

are you getting consistent leg/epics?

[wraith badge]

You've missed the point entirely

You've basically just recreated gear score

[strange cipher]

also the arti chances are kinda ass in there

[cedar igloo]

i always extract big when i am naked. now tell me why

[strange cipher]

better to js go HR and kill a few bosses and make 500k

[median beacon]

I haven’t played it but watched repoze trio play it for several hours straight and they couldn’t believe how good it was

[fleet cape]

I was arguing with you in good faith but now I’m starting to think You are genuinely slow or something

[wraith badge]

You play carefully and you're rewarded for not being incompetent?

[median beacon]

Don’t play it then? You’re just telling me the loot is bad in s2r and I’m saying you’re wrong. I’m not telling you to play it or that it’s better than hr

[strange cipher]

your not gonna get that same make it big feeling from s2r that people are looking for though is my point

[fleet cape]

Anything is a big win compared to nothing…. 💀💀💀💀💀💀

[cedar igloo]

i play risky af? but when i am full geared there is 3 nakeds chasing me

[strange cipher]

the chances of getting anything really good are basically 0

[median beacon]

You shouldn’t be able to get this feeling going in with a squire kit is what I’m saying

[wraith badge]

If you have to resort to ad hominems at any point, you weren't arguing in good faith

But do you genuinely not see how vendor gold value is basically the same thing as gear score in terms of using them for entry requirements?

[median beacon]

This is not true bro you can get uniques often in s2r

[strange cipher]

I js dont agree with that

[median beacon]

Getting good purples or Legos is not that hard

Well then that’s where we disagree

[strange cipher]

most uniques are pretty much worthless

[median beacon]

Risk nothing your gain should be somewhat limited

[cedar igloo]

yeah so why should i go full geared?

[wild torrent]

3 hits with a gray rapier in panther form and im dead is insane lol

[median beacon]

Alright bro you are not making sense

[strange cipher]

maybe I js have played too much but the only thing that really gets me excited to get is artis

[wraith badge]

It is my guy

You might make nothing, or you might be down gold because of supplies and the entry fee

[median beacon]

So all loot is absolutely terrible and there’s no point in playing unless you’re hitting the pile or killing bosses got it

[strange cipher]

like 95% of the uniques I get just get dropped on the ground because they are not worth much

[fleet cape]

Because you’re not extremely afraid of losing pixels on a game mostly…. 😂😂😂😂

[strange cipher]

thats pretty much all I do during ssf yeah

opening chests and clearing mobs to loot is a waste of time

except on water map

goldens on water are pretty good

[wraith badge]

Water map is basically free

[median beacon]

Again your argument makes no sense just because most items are bad doesn’t mean they’re all bad you know some of them can be good right and when you can find them in the 0 risk lobby that means you can have a big come up?

[fleet cape]

The types of players that wanna get everything for nothing are a plague to the game 🔥

[median beacon]

Going into HR as a squire and going for artifacts is such a bad idea as well

[wraith badge]

The only lobby that's even close to 0 risk is pve. And it's still not 0 risk

[strange cipher]

if the chances are so small that basically nobody is ever going to get that big win then theres no point

[median beacon]

So I don’t even know why you’d want to do that unless you are scared and server hop

[wraith badge]

You're playing the wrong genre

[strange cipher]

to get artis for once ssf ends?

if I have gear ill throw it on

[wind juniper]

tbh this is it right here, like who cares what you lose, that’s the vidya game

[strange cipher]

but im not going to spend an hour getting a kit together to kill a boss i can kill in squire

[fleet cape]

The guy who wants to risk nothing but gain everything….. playing a game based fundamentally on risk vs reward….. hmmmm the irony is not lost on me

[cedar igloo]

please stop talking and go outside for 20 min or something

[wind juniper]

i’m walking my dog right now twin

[wraith badge]

I mean, for crying out loud, sometimes people lose all the gear in their inventory and just don't want to put another kit together

If you're getting bodied by someone who has worse gear than you, it genuinely is a skill issue

[median beacon]

going in squire is 0 risk. You are not risking anything that you didn’t otherwise have outside
Of the entry fee

[fleet cape]

Brother youve been yapping in here just as much if not more than most of us wtf are u on about 😂😂😂😂 humble tf up u freak

[strange cipher]

you risk your time

[wraith badge]

The entry fee, the supplies, the time, the loot you get along the way

Not even close to 0 risk

[fleet cape]

You risk your time in pve SR and normals too what’s your point?

[median beacon]

Yeah I’m risking my time right now too talking to you guys not worth the risk at all

[cedar igloo]

oh so 100k gold for gear is nothing?

[strange cipher]

much easier to get a win in those whilst in squire

[wraith badge]

You don't really understand the meaning of the word humble if this is how you're using it

[wind juniper]

it’s not nothing, but maybe if you’re terrified of losing it, just wear less?

[fleet cape]

Its pixels buddy not real life 😂

[wind juniper]

you don’t need to enter HR dripped out in 100k to win a fight

[strange cipher]

thats not really that much ngl

like 2-3 good kits

[wind juniper]

if anything that should completely eliminate your fear, you should be stronger than the entire lobby

just by stat checks alone

[cedar igloo]

yeah but bro never had 100k xd

[fleet cape]

Completely appropriate context in this situation but hell ya nice failed gotcha moment 😂😂😂😂

[strange cipher]

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/mBgOpaN0mCiuNAn47?invite=cr-MSxjc3UsMTk3MDI4NTI5&v=11

[median beacon]

Some people just like hoarding items and going in with their little gray squire kits into lobbies where nobody plays to perma farm items

[boreal pier]

3 vs 1 in solo high roller 😭

[median beacon]

Couldn’t be me

[cedar igloo]

not u. this guy i was talking about. he said its only pixels what we loosing

[wraith badge]

Not a gotcha, but also not really appropriate from someone who stated that they were trying to argue in good faith

[strange cipher]

humble has definitely had more than 100k lol

[wind juniper]

yeah i mean you could always get teamed on or constantly 3rded but for the most part it’s a true statement

i mean even if i had only ever amassed 5k in my life, what are the pixels if not pixels

[median beacon]

The thing is that players with gear are less likely to participate in that behavior

Because they have actual items they could lose

[sonic heart]

Damn is @fleet cape still yapping?

[fleet cape]

I’m not anymore but I most definitely was 😂

[median beacon]

Squire players don’t care and will team up because as long as the geared guy dies then someone wins

[fleet cape]

U been right here with me cutie wanna hold my hand? It’ll make you look cooler for everyone

[wraith badge]

The evidence doesn't suggest you were

[weak forge]

what is fire colousus protecions against hellfire?

[strange cipher]

50% I believe

[wraith badge]

Dude's crazy resistant to fire damage

[wind juniper]

i don’t see a problem with squires in HR, you one tap them and take 5 damage a swing, if you get overran by rat timmies i gotta say that’s your fault i have no choice

[fleet cape]

You must’ve misinterpreted then 🙂

[wind juniper]

but they should figure out a solution to the rat problem somehow

[strange cipher]

most of the time its just bad positioning putting yourself between all of them

[wind juniper]

cause trivial or not it is annoying

[wraith badge]

70% against fire damage

[strange cipher]

they just gotta make the maps bigger

ruins doesnt really have as much of an issue with 3rds and rats as long as you clear around and fight on the edges

[median beacon]

Squire can be allowed just no rogue squire or Druid squire

[strange cipher]

its only when you go straight ot bridge

[wind juniper]

bigger with more than just 1 boss module that everyone B lines to

[median beacon]

Problem solved

[boreal pier]

I just wish ssf would end already

I want to sell this stuff

[fleet cape]

Now just Address the fact that those slots taken up by nakeds who already have 3 other modes to run, could have instead been taken up by likeminded individuals who also want to risk their good gear against other good gear?

[strange cipher]

me too man

[fleet cape]

And not run into only nakeds in the highest level mode in the game?

[wild torrent]

where are all the casual players at hot damn

[strange cipher]

game doesnt have enough players for this to be an issue

[wraith badge]

I mean, it isn't in the first place

Essentially, it's just arena

[wind juniper]

yeah true, that’s a fair point to an extent, but in my mind i don’t think that squire player is necessarily a wasted slot, they are if they’re just sitting in squire trying to rat but if it’s a normal like zero to hero kid, he might end up with something i take with me

[summer lion]

Squire mode

[strange cipher]

farming people in squire makes good money

usually will have looted a good piece or 2

[wraith badge]

Honestly, for me it wasn't better than just running frost caves

[strange cipher]

Do it on ice caves

just go around the edges of the maps and kill 3-4 teams

[wraith badge]

I thought you meant squire royale

[strange cipher]

you and all your homies will have completely full invs

[strange cipher]

no I dont touch that mode

[wraith badge]

Caves hasn't been super full in norms

[fleet cape]

Bro, it’s 100% a wasted slot when it’s the Highest Level mode in the game. They literally have 3 separate modes to play for low/no gear but instead just choose to risk nothing and take up slots that could, in theory, be all similarly GEARED players which would make for actual FUN HR lobbies. Not just Timmy slaying or naked griefer lobbies

[bitter plinth]

im in high roller why was my AP cut in half showed 607 but only got 349

[strange cipher]

I just do HR so I cant really speak on the other modes

[eager lynx]

think we can get a toggle crouch at some point?

[wraith badge]

The people I've been playing with have been avoiding HR during ssf since it's been busy

[wraith badge]

Macro keybindings?

[strange cipher]

norms and s2r just feel like a waste of time to me

[analog pendant]

What is it with having to mess with your BIOS to play hr

[median beacon]

A squire queuing up is the most wasted a slot could be in HR. There’s levels to how wasted that slot is but end of the day still wasted

[summer lion]

For that to work you need ques back in HR because rn without rats Hr is just empty

[wind juniper]

yeah i guess, i just view it as more of a gray area, i guess because i’ve done my share of queuing HR naked cause i’m poor all of a sudden, but i definitely understand the frustration, especially when like last season they make up a majority of any lobby

[wraith badge]

To try and keep the lower effort cheaters and rmt people out of them

[median beacon]

Ain’t empty for me

[bitter plinth]

any ideas why this happened ? first time its happened and im 30k points into demi

[fleet cape]

exactly this. majority of every HR lobby at one point last wipe was all nakeds. just an actual waste of time

[median beacon]

The problem is naked people now aren’t nearly as much of a problem as naked people 1 month from now

[strange cipher]

its either mostly squire or nobody will be in there

[fleet cape]

and let's not talk about the period of time when you'd que into HR goblin caves on US east and there would be at least 4-5 naked druids in the middle module waiting to grief a fight or steal gear.

[wind juniper]

end of last wipe it was pretty bad that’s undeniable, you’d have 2 geared guys at most and you’d see 8 naked rogues sitting in a bush or on top of a wall

[strange cipher]

aight now that changes things

cause later into wipe I would definitely be all for adding more restrictions

early on and especially during ssf absoultely not

[median beacon]

Naked people now have an incentive to get good gear in the dungeon whereas naked people in a month will know that one or two players have significantly better gear than all the loot in the dungeon combined so they just play for that

Yeah it’s fine now imo

Worst case scenario is so horrible tho

[fleet cape]

Exactly. Not even playing the game, either. Literally just sitting around doing nothing, waiting SPECIFICALLY to find someone to follow around and grief which is technically bannable and not allowed

[toxic flicker]

anyone know how cockatrice works? what affinity for what rarity stuff

[wind juniper]

they just changed cock last wipe so idk if anyone knows exact details

[outer otter]

I love going into squire as rogue and waiting to third party some fat loot

[toxic flicker]

damn, i didnt play the past two wipes so i didnt know it got changed

[wind juniper]

yeah he used to just give like 1 or 2 gems now he gives a handful of shit between gems and scraps

maxed out anyway

[toxic flicker]

oh so he sucks and i should have sold the stuff i turned in

[wind juniper]

ehhh hard to say, i think the answer depends on when you complete his quests

[toxic flicker]

ive done all of em so far

[wind juniper]

if you do it early and milk him all wipe surely you make more money in the long run

i almost guarantee it actually

[tawny timber]

castillon still the best dagger

?

[toxic flicker]

i dont like that its almost a guarantee\

[sudden shoal]

i like rondel and stiletto

[toxic flicker]

should be an obvious amount of profit for the random bs he needs

[earnest venture]

best dagger yeah

try short sword though. pretty sure from what ive tried the perks still work as long as you have a dagger on the left hand

[wind juniper]

tbf it probably is a guarantee the change is just too new to know for sure

[median beacon]

Dagger mastery only works when you swing a dagger

[wind juniper]

happened like middle of last wipe and most people already had him maxed at that point

[earnest venture]

talkin ab the ap perk

[toxic flicker]

ahh makes sense

[twilit comet]

we getting ddos?

[median beacon]

Thrust?

[earnest venture]

forgot ab mastery

[earnest venture]

yea

[median beacon]

Also only works when you swing a dagger I believe

[earnest venture]

hm i tested it and i did more damage with/without a dagger

could be a bug

[median beacon]

Maybe it’s been changed I don’t rly know tbh

[wind juniper]

what were you testing on

[median beacon]

Yeah you’d need to test it on a teammate

[clever cloud]

💪🏼

[earnest venture]

tbf the ap stat/sockets built into a shield or smt applies to a primary

[earnest venture]

tm barb

[wind juniper]

torture mastery barb my favorite

[median beacon]

Yea but the perks are just a completely different story sometimes they apply to secondaries sometimes they don’t

[turbid edge]

anyone else frozen in the dungeon rn?

[tribal pivot]

I just had a 1 min 30 waiting time for S2R I think servers cooked

[bitter plinth]

where do i find the awl?

[tribal pivot]

skele spearmen seem to drop these a lot

[earnest venture]

spear skellies

[wind juniper]

spear skeles only

[bitter plinth]

frost map prolly best map for that then?

[earnest venture]

in crypts

[tribal pivot]

Nah crypts ones

[bitter plinth]

ok thanks

[wind juniper]

not frost, those are halberd skeles

[earnest venture]

the frost halberd guys dont

[zenith abyss]

[bitter plinth]

possible to find it in pve yea? imma just run around and nuke rooms with cleric

[earnest venture]

yea but more common on norms/hr ofc

[bitter plinth]

i guess once you hit 30k into demi god your points get cut in half in high roller because my last 3 games im getting half the points

[bitter plinth]

first run on pve i got it

only other quest line open is finding a damn mimic tooth

[empty bane]

do that in pve as well

white loot, way better chance to drop

[earnest venture]

yea for tooth def

if youre looking for blue items go norms

for purple/legendary hr

[empty bane]

nah if you are looking for purple items go norms or pve just stack luck

[bitter plinth]

would explain why ive had an issue finding certain things we been grinding hr bossing and farming

[empty bane]

unless it doesnt drop on those modes like flame bag

[earnest venture]

meh

imo i do better finding that stuff on hr

i get cheeks loot on norms

[empty bane]

yeah but you can cut out all the unique/legendary items from your drops

[bitter plinth]

ive been hoarding gold ore to craft armor etc when i get it unlocked, ive got like 20 stacks of gold ingot rn

[empty bane]

nice get them ultimate gems too

[bitter plinth]

they changed cobalt and obsidian gear around tho right

[empty bane]

ye

[bitter plinth]

obs does ap now and cobalt has projectile reduction

[earnest venture]

yea

[bitter plinth]

kinda ass imo the OG blueberry kits was always fun early wipe

[empty bane]

I think they should upgrade Copper to blue and downgrade Rubsilver to blue

the have tide/frost/obsidian purple

and gold legendary

[wind juniper]

not that it was necessarily the reason they did it but i think it’s a great change for any normals players, a blueberry in norms is almost untouchable

there are some freakish norms players

[bitter plinth]

i rememeber when rubysilver dominated the lobbies back in season 3/4 but now it seems if you wanna be BIS out of your mind you got to run gold plate etc

[empty bane]

or swap tidestone for rubysilver doesnt really matter

Obsidian is pretty cracked for arena this season

[bitter plinth]

i get that i strictly play HR but now that there is no leaderboard and im maxed on demi and getting no more ap besides bossing and farming ill just go to norms for PVP it seems

[wind juniper]

fuck it delete every queue but HR

someone had to say it

[limpid lion]

anyone else having an issue with the sound of other players? I can't hear people walking up to me until I get hit

[empty bane]

any sound issues I have are always in the same place

[limpid lion]

wdym

[bitter plinth]

hes saying locations

[empty bane]

like it will be the same corridor and the sound will be fuxed

[limpid lion]

No, any room any map been like that for me for like 2 days

[bitter plinth]

some locations have shit audio

[wind juniper]

game sounds have been notoriously butt since like launch i feel like

[bitter plinth]

very true

[empty bane]

nah generally fine, if a little loud on footsteps

[rain owl]

its because of the high roller hvci restriction

trust

[lethal flame]

You are a star xx

[empty bane]

on some patches it felt like oyu were daredevil

[wind juniper]

eric might be onto something

[bitter plinth]

gotta be cant hear people without my esp and insta kill on barb

[covert nova]

anyone know if plasma blast still affects the caster when used? do they also take the damage?

[wind juniper]

it does / yes

[covert nova]

thank you @wind juniper

[uncut fossil]

My report numbers turned yellow

[languid thorn]

my name turned red

[stiff orbit]

how is the ballancing ? is rogue op ?

[ornate ermine]

NO

[languid thorn]

rogue is fairly balanced

[ornate ermine]

they changed sound so now its horrible and you pretty much cant hear anything outside of your room. Complain so they change it back

[proud vessel]

just had my teammate in squire attack me, and then when i killed them they said: ty i can ban you now

am i cooked

[lime hinge]

bro bard shouldnt be able to have not only luck but open chest aswell when they are a tanky class

[wraith badge]

Them being a tanky class is news to me

I don't see a problem with it

They have to give up better slots for it

To get both especially

[lean steppe]

hello i just went down and it shut down my game?

[strange cipher]

bard is arguably one of the weakest if not the weakest class in pvp I think they have earned that 100 luck and saved lockpick

[wraith badge]

Like, they can buff

But they can't ambush for squat

And I'm not sure I've seen too many songs in the middle of a fight unless they're already out of it

[solid chasm]

no new quests still?

[wraith badge]

Should expect it this week I would say

[empty bane]

Thursday

[iron tree]

can u nerf halberd already?

[solid chasm]

ah ok, thanks guys!

[limpid lion]

I cant even hear in my room

[wind juniper]

you mf you save 50g and you lose a perk slot?? that shit is unfair

[strange cipher]

that 50g goes far man

you could buy like 3 extra stacks of bandages

[slender summit]

doesn't matter when you lose because you're weak af with a perk that is for loot and not combat

[wind juniper]

pff only grays tho no discount 🥀

[strange cipher]

true

or you could socket luck on a green piece for that cost

[wraith badge]

They changed the sound so that it's more realistic. If you jump from a height, it sounds like you're jumping from a height. If someone's in the next room, you can still hear stuff happening in the next room, but it's muffled if the door is closed

So basically, you can't hear the portals spawning in three rooms away

Positive change in my opinion, but it will definitely take getting used to if you're not used to it

[wind juniper]

now we’re talking

[strange cipher]

now that perk is giving 120 luck

snowball affect right there

[wraith badge]

If you're buying the bad ones :P

[wind juniper]

ok you convinced me how strong this is my eyes have been opened

[strange cipher]

thats good

now go die to a barbarian on repeat

I believe in you

[wind juniper]

i’m banning bard next ranked match

[fleet cape]

With luck reworked bard is actually fully broken please nerf

[wraith badge]

Lol, don't do him dirty like that

[strange cipher]

its how your meant to play the game

you must die to a barbarian on repeat if your playing bard

[wraith badge]

Lol, bard is not broken

[strange cipher]

its just the way of the world

[wraith badge]

Lol

[fleet cape]

Yah it’s fully broken they get more luck than everyone else so therefore it’s broken

[wraith badge]

Lol, you could say that about the religion, and you'd still be wrong

[strange cipher]

nah the 20% reg is actually kinda insane

thats 20% more pile hits I get for free

[empty bane]

I mean luck maxes out at 500

[west carbon]

Does the game still sucks?

mandatory yearly check

[iron tree]

nerf halberd

[atomic schooner]

game is amazing right now. best spot its ever been in. i do kinda miss the market right now tho

[wraith badge]

I don't even bother with it, I go for cooldown

[wraith badge]

One more week

But having SSF is nice at the moment

[eager arch]

who drops the awl?

[atomic schooner]

yeah ssf has its moments. i play tmlock half the time so it does kinda hurt :(

[atomic schooner]

spear skeles

[wraith badge]

Skeleton Spearmen I believe

[wraith badge]

I mean, I just need the quests to get full white gear, and I'm solid on sorc

[atomic schooner]

fair. not having tailor quests is a pain. ive done all the quests out right now apart from the chicken quests

[lapis birch]

It's actually good, devs stopped shooting it's knees

[wraith badge]

Lol, those are rough

[atomic schooner]

ive got most of the items for the later quests already. just havent farmed for a feather or egg yet

[wraith badge]

Gotcha

[still flame]

anyone know if we will be able to enhance items that aren't found by us in the workshop once ssf ends?

[lapis birch]

Only looted state

[still flame]

as in looted by other players will work after ssf?

[west carbon]

really? I stoped playing the game in the patch 69 incident, did they added new content and gave back my right to gear check people?

[atomic schooner]

#📢announcements message read the linked part

[lapis birch]

I think the game reads it's requirement as "must have looted state"

[atomic schooner]

reinstall the game and find out :D

[west carbon]

I will think about it

[acoustic pivot]

yeah find out that you can't even log in

[lapis birch]

Personally, gear checking is not as big as it used to be but it's balanced well enough that gear actually matters

[west carbon]

thats good

[atomic schooner]

i can login perfectly fine

[lapis birch]

They removed all broken rolls like true damage, hp, movespeed

[wraith badge]

Well, for them being on everything

[lapis birch]

So theres some build variety

[wraith badge]

They're still on some things

And some of them are just built into the items, and not random

[lapis birch]

Yes and that's way healthier

[atomic schooner]

yeah its now been replaced by armour/magic pen, vigor and a massive change to how movement works.

its still better tho

[lapis birch]

Also all weapons can block and parry

[wraith badge]

Well, penetration has been around

And I think the only true damage stuff is either the gun, or some specific perks

[lapis birch]

Rogue dagger mastery f.e

[wraith badge]

Can you not get hp?

[lapis birch]

Yup

Only vigor

[wraith badge]

Point blank expert, purge shot

[atomic schooner]

only flat hp i know of is just the normal base item ones

[lapis birch]

Buckled boots, adventurer tunic

[wild rock]

when do the new quests come?

[lapis birch]

Tomorrow or the day after

[wraith badge]

I'll have to check some of these, could've sworn some of them were still around, but in a much more limited capacity

[atomic schooner]

the white chest piece and peace neck aswell. idk chest piece name, its got magic resist and max hp tho

[wraith badge]

I wouldn't have listed those as the broken rolls in any case though, +all attributes would've been my example

And that's only on the golden gear now

[atomic schooner]

warlock, rogue, bard, cleric

[lapis birch]

Light aketon

[limpid lion]

What are you talking about, brotha, people walking 1 meter behind me make no sound in full plate

[fleet cape]

Consistent L takes from TigerStar today 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[lapis birch]

Well these rolls were too much of necessity

Everyone was building the same to the point of becoming thanos

[wraith badge]

I'm just saying, for someone from 6.9, the most notable example would've been +all attributes

[lapis birch]

Yes it was broken tok

Too*

[wraith badge]

Not sure what you're responding to?

[wraith badge]

Do you use a headset, or speakers?

[limpid lion]

headset

[lapis birch]

+all is still in the game like bard song, cleric bless warlock stacks fighter flag etc

[wicked sedge]

BRING BACK +3 ALL ON ALL PIECES

[wraith badge]

Have you tried re-launching the game?

[limpid lion]

It's been like this for 3 days

[wraith badge]

Yikes

Well, I can hear full plate just fine, so I'm not sure what to suggest

[lapis birch]

Bring back +3 true damage +3 add +5 phys power on single dagger

[wraith badge]

Restart your pc and validate your files?

[wicked sedge]

it was actually so fun but yeah it had to go

[limpid lion]

not sure if I restarted pc but I validated files

[wicked sedge]

well it was really fun when you were the one with a +3 all kit, otherwise u just got stomped

[wraith badge]

Your response makes no sense here

[sly hare]

how do i get tailor quests?

[wraith badge]

If that doesn't work, uninstall and reinstall?

[wraith badge]

Wait 'til thursday

[lapis birch]

I think the game needs more rolls since they got rid of broken stuff nothing got in that place, maybe some kind of beast damage, fire damage, ice damage or fire resistance etc. as rolls

[sly hare]

deadass?

i just want common squire armor:Cloth

[wraith badge]

They slowly release quests at the start of a wipe

And I mean, same

I'm melee sorc

[sly hare]

i guess ill just level my characters then

[wraith badge]

But it's alright

[wraith badge]

What I've been doing

[sly hare]

im playing a very odd fighter class but it works like crazy rn

[wraith badge]

Lol, do tell

[sly hare]

LS squire fighter has been beaten

[wraith badge]

I tried sniping with the windlass, but it feels janky

So now, my ranger build is shotgunning doorways with explosive shot, multishot, purge shot, and point blank expert. Just to name a few :P

[sly hare]

i run these perks:Slayer (+5 weapon damage +10ms) Dual wield (+10% Action) Swift (-30%ms penalty from armor) Combo attack (+10% phys power when 2 strikes consecutively up to 20% for 2 seconds.) My skills: Adrenaline rush, Second wind Weapons: Flanged mace+Castillion dagger

flanged mace+castillion with Slayer gives you a -20ms weapon with 37 damage and 15% armor pen.

[wraith badge]

Nice :)

[sly hare]

throw in the dual wield and adrenaline rush and thats +25% action speed

off squire

[austere raft]

Swift is 30% reduction from speed penalty of armor, running slayer means you're already fast due to lighter armor anyways, won't get much extra speed unless it's like, heavy leather + brigandine

[stone pelican]

no hate, but does anyone knows the point of going red on the goblin caves?? the map its so hollow and the loot there its bs

[drifting scaffold]

you gotta farm the ash piles and dwarf skeletons

[sly hare]

gotta stay tanky fr but speed of rogue

[azure snow]

Its butt tbh

[drifting scaffold]

the loot drops themselves are same as ice abyss but there’s no free pile unfort

no key room either 🙁

[stone pelican]

but like, its there anything interesting to do there? its the most boring 3x3 map I have ever played

[austere raft]

Dwarves drop constant axes for barbs and plate armor for other classes. Fire elementals constantly drop cloaks, and the boss isn't too hard if you get the spacing down

[drifting scaffold]

there’s a boss, a few mini bosses, and a bunch of dwarves

[stone pelican]

the boss its the fire guy with the beard?? I thought it was just a mini boss

[drifting scaffold]

also obsidian ore, some of which you don’t gotta fight the boss for

[austere raft]

There's a fire colossus in the map

[limpid lion]

no, big fire golem

[strange cipher]

the boss is the giant flaming golem

[stone pelican]

Ahhhh nvm I didnt find the fire golem then, where is he? cuz he wasnt on the middle

[lunar hatch]

do we get adventure points for any game mode now?

[austere raft]

There's openings in the center room to take an elevator super deep under center room

[drifting scaffold]

you gotta go in the little tunnel in the middle section? There’s a path leading down

[drifting scaffold]

[lime hinge]

why am i disconnecting after leaving a dungeon ?

[austere raft]

2 tunnels. One is on upper level of center room by the statue usually guarded by the ifrit (flaming beard humanoid), gotta jump into the hole. Other one is almost under the middle of the bridge, off towards the north-eastern end almost.

[steady karma]

make accessories use powder instead of ore!

[pure wigeon]

help me my RAT FORM is PREGNANT 🫃 IRONMACE patch the PREGNANT rat form to stop his big FURRY BELLY from dragging on the CRYPT FLOOR🫃

[twin rose]

Hey

you guys like chinese food?

[molten orchid]

My life has been considerably better after stopping this game

[twin rose]

yeah and chinese food is like. very good

anyone else have gotten the error "cant connect to the server" message? i just got it and i am clueless what to do

[wraith badge]

I've only seen the Ifrit entrance...

[wind juniper]

the 2nd entrance is basically never used

[oak sapphire]

rate please
#dnd-memes-only message

[wind juniper]

cause all the mobs can get to you while you’re using the lever

[graceful fox]

i want more wiz perks

[plain flume]

why do we have to wait so long for the market to open

[wraith badge]

It's not that long, only two weeks, it was 3 last wipe

Some people really like the ssf period

[wraith badge]

I see, useful information, thank you

Still kind of cool that there's another option, and it could be used for ambushing

[thin wolf]

anyone else lagging?

[wraith badge]

Try restarting your pc

[rotund ravine]

has anyone on this whole game gotten a single mimic tooth

[strange cipher]

yes

[summer shard]

is game better yet

[wind juniper]

not exactly

[median beacon]

What is your opinion of better

We got a reskinned inferno

[sullen sonnet]

depends on what you disliked about the game

[wraith badge]

Just the last run I did actually

[safe dock]

My report numbers turned yellow

[sullen sonnet]

no true dmg or +all (except gold gear) now, no jewelry in dungeons except rusty iron, characters being fleshed out actively, inferno reskin and new demon mobs, balancing team is no longer afraid of deviating from .25 .5 .75 1.0 scaling and now is willing to try things like 0.6. That being said the game still plays the same just the tiniest bit more balanced, rangers still meta for 3rd year in a row, kite and kiter and door and doorer still exist, people camping reds (ice cave primarily)

Im still waiting for random events (kinda like marathon has) in dungeon like a roaming boss, high-value caravan thingy? (im thinking like V-rising has), or puzzle modules. i.e. tic-tac-toe against perfect computer, ties = gold chest spawn, loss = miniboss spawns on you or smth punishing, 4 levers spawn and have to be interacted with in an unknown sequence, finding the right sequence spawns a gold chest

idrc what it is that they add we just need more stuff in dungeon to do that adds variety. Bossing, mining and high tier chest farming are the only things to do in dungeon, most fights happen at a key room or near boss module with minimal incentive to not do those POIs

making keys dungeon only and more common was a good step as it adds a different avenue of progression and gearing up in which you can ignore boss module all game but its not enough IMO

[wraith badge]

True damage is on the gun I believe

[sullen sonnet]

oh ye i forgot about gun having true

[wraith badge]

Puzzle modules will likely be the only one that would work with this, unfortunately :/

[wraith badge]

Really, the only map that could have a roaming boss, and do it well, would be the water map at the moment

[sullen sonnet]

they have so many unused modules in ruins that they could do cool stuff with, they could convert them into puzzle rooms, roaming boss rooms, could add their own version of marathons warden (nightmare champ but boosted stats and spawns with multiple nightmare axeman and nightmare cbows). water map would be cool for roaming, kinda weird that shark isnt already a full map roamer but it makes sense since its guarding loot

[wraith badge]

There's multiple sharks to a map, don't worry 😅

[sullen sonnet]

not really sure what exactly they could add or how well received any of it will be received but i do know that we need more variety in the dungeon

i also unironically think SSF should stay long term

[wraith badge]

We did get some more of that with the changes to the inferno

I haven't really managed to get to the new boss yet, but jumping puzzles can be fun

You won't get much quarrel from me, he handled the Q&A really well

Better than the semi-semi-semi-wipes XP

[languid thorn]

Why do so many people not use the Press y to form a team function in Squire royale

[wraith badge]

Because their party isn't full for a multitude of reasons?

[sullen sonnet]

they dont like you

[languid thorn]

no I can spectate them afterwards and their party isnt full

[wraith badge]

Oh, sorry, misread

[languid thorn]

that or they dont have voip on

[wraith badge]

I think people just aren't aware sometimes

[languid thorn]

like can we force voip on for people ffs

[sullen sonnet]

some people have it on but set to party like chuds

[wraith badge]

Kind of should be tbh, people can turn it off if they like

[gray tartan]

is halberd just better than longsword right now? why is every fighter using it over longsword

[sullen sonnet]

add scales halbard better due to easier to hit headshots, also halbard has higher base dmg and scales with victory strike and phys dmg bonus really really well

[languid thorn]

at the very least it should be on by default

[wraith badge]

Honestly though, when you have prox chat on you should still be able to hear your teammates in party chat

Like, party chat is for having voice chat, but not speaking to the greater lobby

[sullen sonnet]

longsword still good, just diff play style

[royal jasper]

ls got nerfed

[sullen sonnet]

halbard isnt gimpped by not running sword mastery either, more flexibility with perks

[fleet vortex]

Is there no ranger channel?

[languid thorn]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1068515297486704730

cause there is

[fleet vortex]

ty

[vivid wasp]

What's up with wisps no longer blinding you? Unplayable...

[limber needle]

why doesnt the tailor have quests

[median beacon]

They just aggro all the unaggroed mobs now instead W

[limber needle]

does the tailor just not have quests anymore

[still nexus]

theyre not out yet, they will drop tomorrow around this time

[lyric spoke]

he doesnt wanna talk to you bruh

[queen cloud]

go pve

[lyric spoke]

pve less chances

go normal

[rotund cipher]

When are new quests out?

[rotund ravine]

where are the spawns?

[pure wigeon]

help me my RAT FORM is PREGNANT 🫃 IRONMACE patch the PREGNANT rat form to stop his big FURRY BELLY from dragging on the CRYPT FLOOR🫃

[still nexus]

tomorrow around this time

[wraith badge]

Look at them

[lunar palm]

guys what do i do if it says tpm 2.0 is enabled and i can play valorant but it won't let me play hr 🙁

[wraith badge]

Did you turn on the core isolation?

Do you have secureboot on?

[lunar palm]

yeah

[wraith badge]

If all three things are on, you shouldn't be having any problems

But, you could try restarting, or running the game in administrator mode

[rotund cipher]

ty

[pine otter]

Does Arena still require self found gear or is the only requirement epic and lower?

[worldly breach]

is there an lfg for newish players

[rustic pecan]

i still dont understand how fighters with longsword can block while they are in their mid swing animation

[wicked kelp]

shouldnt be but it hasnt been uncommon for people to come in here having issues when all 3 are on anyways

[worldly juniper]

how much gold can a chest hold??? answer fast and win a wopper and a random disease

[pastel bay]

2k

[worldly juniper]

ebola and wopper

[pastel bay]

[fleet cape]

They can’t. Because they’re mid swing animation. If they’re blocking, they’re not mid swing

[late creek]

Yo ppl, what race its recommended for cleric?

[languid thorn]

the midget

[late creek]

thx

[pine otter]

Does Arena still require self found gear or is the only requirement epic and lower?

[devout steppe]

this game is trash its warlock and fighter everywhere halberddikkeating

[agile laurel]

hey ironmace the halberd has been broken as shit since entire last wipe and now this wipe are we seriously gonna just let 1 weapon terrorize the game for 2 wipes ina row

[languid thorn]

Womp womp

[maiden lichen]

it ain't that bad

[fierce gale]

[slender summit]

tag you're it

[visual nacelle]

just hilt block the halberd lol it swings so slowly

[agile laurel]

lol

[karmic fern]

white

[languid thorn]

they should allow gifs here

[warm junco]

fighters longsword riposte is too fucking fastr

[drifting scaffold]

Oh wow, you parried. Congrats. You pressed right click at chest level and the game played itself for you. The longsword turns every mediocre Fighter into a walking “oops I win” machine. Miss? Doesn’t matter. Bad spacing? Doesn’t matter. Brain turned off? Still doesn’t matter. Just fish for a parry and instantly delete someone who actually outplayed you for 30 seconds straight.

[warm junco]

they can attack and then riposte instantly its fucking stupid

[fallen crypt]

great bait

dammit i lost the pasta race

[lost plover]

No tag you're it

[fallen crypt]

Oh wow, you parried. Congrats. You pressed right click at chest level and the game played itself for you. The longsword turns every mediocre Fighter into a walking “oops I win” machine. Miss? Doesn’t matter. Bad spacing? Doesn’t matter. Brain turned off? Still doesn’t matter. Just fish for a parry and instantly delete someone who actually outplayed you for 30 seconds straight.

[chrome kraken]

why do uniques only have 1 random stat?

[fallen crypt]

Title: Nerf Fighters Already – Longsword Is the Most Braindead Crutch in Dark and Darker

I’m saying this as someone who ONLY plays Ranger and Druid, so yeah, I actually have to AIM, POSITION, and THINK instead of holding W and mashing one button.

Fighter is completely out of control right now, and the longsword is the biggest joke of skill expression this game has ever seen.

Oh wow, you parried. Congrats. You pressed right click at chest level and the game played itself for you. The longsword turns every mediocre Fighter into a walking “oops I win” machine. Miss? Doesn’t matter. Bad spacing? Doesn’t matter. Brain turned off? Still doesn’t matter. Just fish for a parry and instantly delete someone who actually outplayed you for 30 seconds straight.

Meanwhile, as Ranger or Druid, I’m:

Managing spacing perfectly

Tracking cooldowns

Using terrain

Landing skillshots

Playing neutral like it’s a fighting game

And what does the Fighter do? Plate armor, infinite sustain, sprint at Mach 5, and accidentally parry my entire kit with one animation. If I make ONE mistake, I’m dead. Fighters can make five and still win because the longsword forgives everything.

The worst part? Fighters act like they’re mechanical gods. Bro, you didn’t “outplay” anyone. The weapon did it for you. Longsword is the Dark and Darker equivalent of training wheels welded onto a tank.

There is zero risk, insane reward, and no meaningful counterplay unless you’re also playing Fighter or abusing the same garbage. This is not healthy for the game. It’s pushing out skill-based classes and rewarding the laziest, most autopilot playstyle imaginable.

Nerf the longsword.
Nerf Fighter survivability.
Or at least make parries require actual timing instead of “face the enemy and pray.”

I’m tired of losing fights I objectively played better just because someone picked the class with the biggest safety net in the game.

End rant. Fix your game.

[chrome kraken]

why do uniques only have 1 random stat?

[agile laurel]

its 3x any stat

can be 3x any stat

[brisk haven]

failure to connect to server anyone? (eu servers)

[candid sand]

fireball knockback needs to go

[fierce gale]

[night cove]

[sonic heart]

My goodness i had forgot how good it feels to squash rogue as cleric

[candid sand]

such an accomplishment, beating a wet napkin.

[random anchor]

🙂

[molten arch]

My report numbers turned yellow in summon you

I*

[sonic heart]

Hell yeah

[cunning thistle]

Anyone know the distance per damage for longshot expert?

[rugged crystal]

i love how accurate the bow and arrow is underwater on blue maelstorm makes no fkn sense

[still nexus]

2v1ing rogues on cleric will never get old

[grizzled hinge]

Havent played in ages. Game back or still bad? Someone tell me whether or not worth updating

[silver scroll]

yo how do you obtain faustian bargains

[silent dune]

its always faustian bargains and never futa bargains

[sonic heart]

It's fine rn, but there is a bit of meta. longsword fighters and Halberd platelocks will kind of force you to play a class that can counter that.

[grizzled hinge]

Is playercount back up?

[sonic heart]

Just under 6k in dungeon, just over 4k in lobbies

[grizzled hinge]

Definitely better than before

[lime dome]

please god let this be the last season of ssf

[sonic heart]

Well there was wipe under 2 weeks ago, so

[sonic heart]

I like it, kit builders be fuming

JK, i am looking forward for market to open

[lime dome]

every lobby being filled with squire gear isnt fun for me but to each their own

[sonic heart]

But i kind of like it, but two weeks is too much

thats SR, i just hate the BR circle nonsense

[compact shuttle]

I have killed like 20 white shark stille no tooth 🙁

[sonic heart]

Thats me with the cockatrice feather, every damn time.
I spent 3 days, ended up with 5 eggs and a gas flame bag before i got the feather.

[compact shuttle]

SADD

[granite lark]

Make sure you aren't running luck

[strange cipher]

y

oh

nvm

[compact shuttle]

got it finally I just had to complain

[deep ravine]

what modules can i find frost imps on frost map? i need to kill 3 and i have 40 mins lol

are they only on 2nd floor?

[tidal eagle]

what the heck

[heady valley]

3,600 hours... i'm dead. 🙁 pray to god they revert this nasty ass change.

[tawdry zealot]

are we getting new quests today?

[primal night]

why the hell halberd sourspot deals so much damage, it should not be higher than 50%

most broken weapon in the game

[floral steeple]

why does the game never feel good to play, always lag or fps drops smh

[covert nova]

i know @floral steeple exactly what I was thinking.

[fleet cape]

Why bear so many armor values? Many times stab bear with sharp blade but bear no react,... bear keep swipe, only swipe and growling, scratch enemy until so many bleeding cut, but bear not wear armor, bear just have fur, this is not nromally .

[novel umbra]

stop larping its just cringe

[digital oracle]

bears are this tanky irl

[fleet cape]

it's probably your twitch stream tanking your fps 🙂

[dense saffron]

what is a good class setup to run with fighter halberd

[visual nacelle]

whatever you enjoy

[latent badge]

Is that new bundle just the same cape skin they released a little bit ago?

[rose kayak]

Only thing better than fighter halberd is more fighter halberd

[mighty blade]

What's the difference of playing dark & darker on blacksmith or steam? Faster loading times?

[obtuse harbor]

If you have 3000 hours and can't invest in a decent pc you have your own problems

[stable minnow]

im tryna get rich for these work shops bruh can everyone just be friendly for a couple days lol lets go jump bosses and share piles

[mystic spindle]

Tony

[trail quiver]

what if we added a playtime limiter so the unemployed can't just grind the best stuff nonstop day after day lmao. still dont get why they do this ssf garbage it only rewards the no lifes

[sweet elk]

I only play Dark and Darker because I have no life

[mystic spindle]

what if we add a work time limiter so people who work too much could play more

[trail quiver]

real if one didnt get you actual money lol, this exact stuff is what encourages people to rmt in this game

[mystic spindle]

every game with a market is going to have rmt buddy

just human nature unfortunately

look at Runescape

[trail quiver]

and this one flourishes..... its not like they make any attempt to lower the amount of people who do it

[mystic spindle]

what do you expect them to do?

[floral steeple]

they messed with the wyvern or something istg, just had it leap at me 10x in a row...

[unreal garnet]

what if we add a work time limiter so people who work too much could play more

[floral steeple]

or doing the sweeping attack 8x in a row even tho im across the entire arenna

[mystic spindle]

did you try being nice to the wyvern?

[trail quiver]

never claimed you can just get rid of rmt goober just saying they dont do anything to fix the gameplay loop for normal people, theres plenty of ways to make this more accessible for the regular perosn and games already do it. thats why rmt is much more prevalent in this game than most. yeah you can rmt runescape but most dont cause its attainable otherwise

[floral steeple]

blocked

[obtuse harbor]

Why does it matter what attacks it does. Learn how to dodge it properly

[mystic spindle]

they dont do anything to fix it? they literally made multiple patches with change in loot drop rates. so that gear is more accessible

[mystic spindle]

😔

[wicked kelp]

What needs to be fixed

[floral steeple]

some of them bug and turn to instant animations

[trail quiver]

accesibility for those who are employed, ssf shouldve just never been added

[trail quiver]

and then still made fresh wipe 2 week ssf so only losers progress v nice

[wicked kelp]

It isn't permanent

[mystic spindle]

they werent nice to the wyvern and were mean to me too

[shrewd bloom]

you dodge in the game, you dodge for real

[trail quiver]

so just dont play

awesome

[wicked kelp]

You just said you can't play

[mystic spindle]

yeah, you have free will brother

dont play something if you dont like it

[trail quiver]

i never said i cant ? literally reference that rn

[mystic spindle]

orrr adapt and survive againt the sweaty no lifes bc it feels 10x better to defeat them when you only have white squire on

[wicked kelp]

"accessibility for those unemployed" does that not mean you can't play?

[slender summit]

You don't have to be a loser to progress, you just need to discover what you care about. If you're trying to get gear you can do bosses with gray gear. If you're trying to PvP fairly they literally made a squire mode. What are you angry about? SSF is my favorite time to play

[mystic spindle]

If i had to guess a geared player pooped on him and now they mad idk just a guess

[trail quiver]

bosses in gray gear doesnt work already legendary geared gemmed out sweats in every game

[wicked kelp]

Yeah i think something is wrong with some boss ais. Fire colossus is doing the single overhand slam constantly now

[mystic spindle]

did you try being nice to Mr. Colossus?

[trail quiver]

i mean imma block you cause youre making no points and just arguing for the sake of it but duh you dont have to do anything what a non-point lmao. i enjoy the game and do not understand why they make it unplayable for people with normal amounts of time to spend on it so i came here to talk about it.

[slender summit]

Then play normals in gray gear, they literally can't wear legendaries in there. Are you just complaining to complain or do you pay attention to the game at all?

[manic condor]

define Normal amounts of time

[mystic spindle]

block me idc lol you dont have to announce when you do it

[wicked kelp]

Yes I give him his respectful 5 feet of distance

[timber orbit]

employment accessibility is the best way i think i've ever seen ssf described

[drifting scaffold]

market is more employment accessible than ssf is

[trail quiver]

like 4-6 hours? imagine working a 9-5 coming home and playing if you wanted normal sleep and have things to do like a normal person you might get 4 hours ish

[mystic spindle]

ssf makes it easier bc then "no lifes" can just buy artifacts

[mystic spindle]

4 hours isnt enough time to play???

[manic condor]

4 hours is ALOT per day

[mystic spindle]

you want a 12hr game sesh or something lol

[wicked kelp]

Sure. I could see it if loot wasn't literally everywhere and mildly gemmed purples are just fine against most players because they're also ssf. But all of that is a separate issue since ssf is temporary.

[manic condor]

if you're playing 4 hours daily and cant keep up then you might want to find a different game

[trail quiver]

it is yeah when you have a job and its still nowhere near the 8-10 minimum the unemployed put in everyday