the-tavern

[glacial chasm]

I'm tired of reading the awful stuff you guys are saying, the rules are there for a reason. It literally isn't hard to talk to someone and have different opinions.

[fiery aspen]

You also said that damage is irrelevant because you get it every game

[unreal garnet]

you have to mention their speed and range too, he wont get it then

[drifting scaffold]

me when I can’t endlessly insult ppl 😔

[unreal garnet]

see that IS actually soft

[winter turtle]

The damage of the skill. Once again. 8 times.

[slate hawk]

Be polite when communicating in our community, try not to create any conflicts.

[winter turtle]

You are clearly not reading. Are you dyslexic?

[fiery aspen]

And poison is a perk that inflicts damage over time

[fleet cape]

Crying to the wardens at 6 am is crazy like this is NOTHING compared to normal 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

[fiery aspen]

Okay I see the misunderstanding

I'm misspeaking

[winter turtle]

On 10 base damage. Not 70. This is now 9 times bud.

[minor bison]

Yeah, not a fan of people going unpunished for the things I've seen here, since it never breeds any good coversation anyway

[fiery aspen]

The focus is on the throwing knife not poison, the perk

[winter turtle]

Holy fuck.

[fiery aspen]

My counter to you is about poison the perk when used with throwing knives, making it a ranged DOT. Not the throwing knife itself

[fleet cape]

Your discord mod attitude will not change people’s behavior it will only amplify it. Stop while you’re ahead

[winter turtle]

The point is who cares about a 2 damage tick on 10 base weapon damage. The problem is 10 damage tick on 70 base weapon damage.

[drifting scaffold]

na it’s pretty nice here in between announcements 🤣

[glacial chasm]

Eh it happens, wardens can't be everywhere.

[fiery aspen]

That is a much better argument than your initial stance of "Ranged DOT is oppresive"

[winter turtle]

Soft.

[fiery aspen]

and "Its ranged DOT so its a permanent pestilence"

[fleet cape]

He’s ESSENTIALLY not wrong. And you can’t say he is.

[drifting scaffold]

ITS A RANGED DOT

[winter turtle]

It literally still is the same point.

[fiery aspen]

The cooldown makes it not permanent

[unreal garnet]

he doesn't know 😔

[fiery aspen]

That being said, it is a pocket pesti. The same way an r8 isn't a scout in csgo

[winter turtle]

Omfg. Go learn to read and then come have a valid argument at all bud

[fleet cape]

But it never goes away 🙂 only on cooldown 🙂 so it’s permanent then 🙂

[minor bison]

True that. And if you ignore the white noise many people still can act with decorum

[fiery aspen]

Pestilence shoots a poison arrow with every single arrow released. A skill does not allow you to do that.

[frozen juniper]

It just feels like constant chip damage with no breathing room like you’re always getting ticked down

[glacial chasm]

Rules are there for a reason, makes the discord a better place.

[winter turtle]

Even when you DIE you can use it next RAID because it’s a SKILL. The same point they all are trying to make against me, literally is the problem.

[unreal garnet]

I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT
Less Ice Mastery - More Fire Mastery
Less Double Jump - More Thrust
Less Whirlwind - More Iron Will
Less Disarm - More Taunt
Less Judgement - More Smite
Less Dissonance - More Fermata
Less Evil Eye - More Curses
Less Shapeshift - More Sun and Moon
Less Wind Spells - More Fire Spells
Less Illusory - More Kuma's Claw
Mechanical variation is... LAME!!!
Numbers go up is.... FUN!!!
NUMBERS GO UP
NUMBERS GO UP
NUMBERS GO UP
I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT I LOVE MATH I HATE MOVEMENT

[fiery aspen]

I agree. Its going to be not fun to run into, regardless of how much damage it deals. That being said, its not going to be the only thing ranger is attacking you with, so play the game and bait his explosive arrow volley. Its not that bad IMO

[glacial chasm]

I usually hide in The Hall of Knights, or the game discussion. 😂

[icy turtle]

where do i report teamers if they didnt dmg me

[winter turtle]

No not poison just explosive and fire holy shit sorry it’s not an EXACT comparison for what is an ARTIFACT vs a SKILL

[drifting scaffold]

pretty sure the website, u can get there Esc -> Support ingame

[fiery aspen]

Brother I'm saying you dont get a fancy arrow permanently

[minor bison]

Haha, sounds pretty nice, I'm just not good enough yet I suppose

[winter turtle]

You literally just said you die to throwing knife rogues bud. “It’s not that bad imo” you literally can’t have an opinion. you’re dying to 10 base damage fucking knives as a plate wearer

[glacial chasm]

Anyone can join The Hall of Knights regardless of skill/playtime, it's a teaching discord. #🔗links message

[fiery aspen]

You get a volley of shots that shoot an explosive arrow before you're back to normal arrows and have a cooldown on the skill. I die as plate fighter with longsword to rogue because I have no MDR and he has more move speed than me and can reset when he wants.

[unreal garnet]

hey dont give him a hard time he just has broken A and D keys, he cant strafe

[winter turtle]

Brother and I’m saying you do and even more permanently than a pesti. The only thing stopping it from being purely permanent over a pesti is 30 seconds bro.

[fiery aspen]

I don't get this 😭 . You can A and D a bow. I do it all the time, I don't understand why if you can strafe a knife you can't strafe a bow

[unreal garnet]

wait. can you strafe a knife?

[minor bison]

Well, I'm in

[winter turtle]

Because you literally said you’re dying to knives bud. How tf are YOU and I’m talking only YOU going to dodge an arrow with 2x the projectile speed and 20x the damage of a throwing knife?

[fiery aspen]

Yes! I just cant outheal the fucking infinite ticking damage because I can't create distance on a dude with twice my speed 😢

[glacial chasm]

Awesome, I hope you enjoy it. There are a lot of guides, useful channels, and a help channel where you can just post really any question and odds are it will be answered. You also can requests a Knight through the ticket system if there's something specific you are wanting to learn.

[frozen juniper]

If it’s almost always up it basically feels like permanent pressure with barely any reset window which can be really frustrating to deal with

[unreal garnet]

ok so you can strafe but also you cant, gotchya. proximity poison or something

[winter turtle]

And a ranger doesn’t do the same but with 20x damage and now a skill that does tick????💀💀💀 okay

[fiery aspen]

Im not saying I get hit by 10 knives instantly and die. I was saying I play the cat and mouse game for 2-3min before getting cucked by speed

[winter turtle]

That’s the whole point I’ve been making. That’s what makes pesti broken and oppressive as fuck. Now it’s just a skill rangers have permanently with only a cooldown barring it.

[icy plover]

Rouge can tp through doors now gg

[empty halo]

uhmm hype I guess

[winter turtle]

Once again because you literally can’t read for some reason,

“And a ranger doesn’t do the same but with 20x damage and now a skill that does tick????💀💀💀 okay”

[glacial chasm]

The TP Requires damage to be dealt, in the trailer the TP is activated with a Handcrossbow shot, and a throwing knife after it. I am curious to see if it has a range limit, or if it's just hit your shot and TP.

[grand cradle]

Currently playing Rogue. Have been absolutely shit on by warlocks for… five runs in a row?

Am I just supposed to run away from every fight?

[fiery aspen]

Is the problem the skill or the fact a rangers shot deals 70 damage, Theta >.>

[icy plover]

U sure bout dat

[glacial chasm]

Yes, if you slow the video down you can see the handcrossbow proc it, and on dualstrike the throwing knife procs it.

[winter turtle]

…………the entire…..fucking…….thing……THE WHOLE CONGLOMERATE OF BURST DPS on an already brutally oppressive class.

This is what I’ve been saying the entire time. The entire time.

[pure anchor]

so rogue is busted now lmfao

[icy plover]

Yeah

[empty halo]

urrr durrr

[winter turtle]

And I’ve stated, “what is the drawback” and everyone has said a cooldown💀💀 tf is that stopping?? Why don’t rangers sway and have a timer on how long they can hold a bow charged for??? I’ve been saying this once again, the ENTIRE time

[frozen juniper]

Nah you’re not meant to just run from every fight but warlock is one of those matchups where you really have to pick your moment if you take bad trades or let them reset it gets miserable fast

[fiery aspen]

aaaah, you right

[crimson goblet]

New wipe sounds incredibly boring, like always 🤌

[icy plover]

Inferno and new boss look cool, otherwise , rogue and ranger simulator

[unreal garnet]

im excited to fight Gloomy Demon!

[winter turtle]

………….i hope your pillow is hot af on both sides.

@glacial chasm and I hope you lose your toothbrush, phone ain’t plugged in, hot ass bed, car breaks down, gpu catches fire. All for calling 12 and being soft because you don’t understand a very simple point

[fiery aspen]

xD

[glacial chasm]

Stop bothering me with childish shit.

[pure anchor]

they cant even balance this shit why even add it I dont understand

[drifting scaffold]

bc game dies otherwise

[crimson goblet]

End of wipe event boring af, new wipe nothing interesting

[winter turtle]

Ooh tough guy. He aint got time for childish games apparently but has time to argue till he realizes he’s wrong 💀💀 okay kiddo go get mommy’s credit card and buy another 10k robux and fortbux

[rancid summit]

anyone getting arena games?

[minor bison]

I'll take unbalanced over stale any day

[frigid flare]

Folks lets please remain civil

[drifting scaffold]

ITS A RANGED DOT

[pure anchor]

I mean its still stale dawg nuthin new really just meta switch

[winter turtle]

All I said was he’s soft and bro called me childish😢😭 sorry dad

[glacial chasm]

The discord rules are there for a reason, try to follow them. Aside from that, stop pinging me to ragebait, or restart an argument.

[frigid flare]

lets just please move on

[empty halo]

we wont let that happen twin

[frigid flare]

🥩🧅🥩🍅🥩🧄🥩

BBQ time for Line Holders

[drifting scaffold]

10 years of dark and darker

[frigid flare]

Got barb bits too

[minor bison]

[naive grove]

new vid is dope sadly only creep update, guess invis stays

[empty halo]

WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP !!!!!

[fleet cape]

I got timed out for saying that, double standard or what???!!! 😂😂😂

[brittle cradle]

[empty halo]

bro deadass remove cleric tho

[icy plover]

🙅‍♂️

[brittle cradle]

[olive willow]

does anyone know if the emote quests line is locked behind other quests? or can you just fully do all goblins quest exclusively to get it

[drifting scaffold]

you can fully do one merchant's questline

[glacial chasm]

As of now it's locked behind the full questline, sadly.

[frozen juniper]

Yeah the vid is solid. Shame it’s only a creep update though looks like invis is sticking around for now

[glacial chasm]

I would say if you are planning to do the quests I would focus on Tavern Master, and Goblin Merchant. The collector requires 10x Tears of the Volcano and they are very expensive.

[lapis birch]

Unless you want to farm boss like crazy

[raw scarab]

Bit late to go for quests with 4 days left of wipe no?

[brittle cradle]

I was about to say same thing and then I got distracted

[lapis birch]

Yes it is late, might be good time to push for demi tho, it's very easy with increased points

[glacial chasm]

Gotta be faster than that. 🏇

[brittle cradle]

It's not late at all if you have some friends and strategy to do it as quick as possible, can even do in PvE mode for safety and not deal with PvP

[glacial chasm]

Nah, you can still do them, you can even do demigod quickly. A newer player did his yesterday in around six hours with no PvP or Bossing.

[brittle cradle]

You are like speed demon, hop in all channels 😆
I can't do that while having drawing session haha

[olive willow]

wait so you can get the emote from either tavern master, collector or golbin merchant? i thought it was just goblin merchant

[glacial chasm]

1x Sitting Emote from The Collector, 1x normal Emote from The Goblin Merchant, and 1x Torch Cosmetic from The Tavern Master.

[raw scarab]

Is it the same 3 every season? like the same 3 merchants that have the emotes/torch

[frozen juniper]

With a coordinated group and a plan you can speed it up a lot and PvE mode definitely makes it way less stressful if you just want it done safely without PvP chaos

[glacial chasm]

Same merchants, different cosmetics/emotes, and the previous season cosmetics are added to the shop.

[olive willow]

oh damn

[raw scarab]

adding them to the shop is cool asf, hate missing out on things cuz i gotta work & don't have enough time

[glacial chasm]

Yeah I understand that, I have missed out on some cool cosmetics, but I was able to grab them from the shop later. I am currently waiting for the stingray egg torch

[brittle cradle]

and on top of it all, even if your party member kills monsters, it will count towards your quests 😉

[glacial chasm]

The all seeing knight. 😂

[tiny elbow]

sorc sucks in artifact arena

[open trail]

yeah ggs games cooked

fym rogue can tp thru doors

[final swallow]

when does S9 start?

[glacial chasm]

it's damage based, procs off of Cbow shot, and throwing knife in the video. @final swallow 28th

[ember snow]

maybe it need a gloves artifact
or Spell casting speed gloves

[open trail]

it doesnt matter

[gaunt forum]

so hard to crouch while opening doors gg

[open trail]

ratting in duos/trios just became 10x more annoying to go against

[slate hawk]

End of April!

[ember snow]

29

[subtle yew]

guys is paul saving the game?

[ember snow]

maybe

[hazy flare]

Hi! We need in new squire to reaches gem insert to the items between floors. It will be awesome!

[hazy flare]

Will explosive bottles activate it?

[glacial chasm]

As of now I have no clue, it could work on anything. I just know it works with what was shown.

[drifting scaffold]

assuming its an on-hit buff like achilles

[open trail]

no

[glacial chasm]

The games in a good place, and we have been getting good updates.

[broken patio]

Killed Dimo js now the cheater still plays

[sonic heart]

Can't wait for Dark and Darker to become Rogue and Ranger again.
At least for the first few weeks of the new season.

[drifting scaffold]

yeah I think it’s inevitable with these class updates lol

[humble blaze]

Where's the climb wall Rogue skill?

[slow ivy]

It was plundered by the bats in the bellfray.

[sonic heart]

tbh i am a bit skeptical of turning Rogue into an anime character that teleports behind you. And they even gave the class 2 ways to do this.
How are you supposed to counter it?

[empty bane]

same way you deal with pounce? zip, and wizard invis ?

[iron saffron]

Caster sisters... We lost....

[humble blaze]

the cries will shift from "I cannot see the rogue because he's invis and that's unfair" to "I cannot see the rogue because he's not on my screen and that's unfair"

[sonic heart]

Be wizard
Run away from Rogue
Close door
Rogue teleports behind Wizard.
Wizard now stuck between door and Rogue

[empty bane]

and?

[limpid lion]

0/10 rage bait

[humble blaze]

and Wizard becomes skelton

[glacial chasm]

The rogue has to hit a ranged shot, or throwing knife to TP.

[empty bane]

BE rogue, have 90 hp, get right clicked twice by spell caster = die, BE Rogue, get right clicked once by fighter/barb/Sorc/Bear = Die. BE Rogue have the worst iteration of hide ever made

[sonic heart]

I think the invis is fine. It makes sense, that Rogue has to outsmart other classes.

[mighty portal]

W wipe in general, for linux players? L wipe

[raw scarab]

My game keeps crashing, i can get into a match but it'll close out after 10s-1min

[mighty portal]

refund linux players

[empty bane]

will Linux not work at all?

[sonic heart]

What happened to people on Linux?

[covert moon]

Oh shi, I did not read that

I take back everything I said. I play on linux, if they continue with the change, I would be unable to play most likely

[gaunt oracle]

new inferno looks fucking sick. survival skills on ranger look fucking sick. ping system looks fucking sick

[glacial chasm]

Yes, I can't wait to play it. I can't wait to see the stuff they haven't shown us yet.

[sonic heart]

Indeeed

[gaunt oracle]

wonder wtf windfletch does... maybe ranger creates arrows from thin air now

[drifting scaffold]

i thought i just read something where they have workarounds planned for linux

[covert moon]

If you have a link to that, lmk. All I know is that they have said in the past that they dont care for linux gamers. And then also, that I cannot remember which streamer, but on one wipe he notified the devs that linux could not launch it after the start of the wipe, and it got fixed about one week in.

[gaunt oracle]

nothing. they already have solutions for linux and steamdeck players

[alpine stump]

Hitscan arrows with overcharge pls

[glacial chasm]

I didn't know that, that's awesome, is that posted somewhere?

[gaunt oracle]

"Clarification for Linux users next season. Do not worry" thread on reddit by MrJerichoYT

[covert moon]

I am with the top comment I see. Big if true, thanks for the info.

[glacial chasm]

Thanks, I will have to check it out

[potent bolt]

if you guys actually add shadowstep to rogue the game is over please re think

[slate hawk]

Shadowstep would be cool if it works only if you're in a dark area (in the trailer this isn't the case as there's a torch right there)

[vital crescent]

Is there a way to do arena private matches? If not, how do they run tournaments?

[keen zephyr]

Different server

[vital crescent]

Is that generally accessible or is it only for official tournaments?

[keen zephyr]

I don't really have that much info apart from knowing it's a different server that IM used for the tournament, but I don't believe it's accessible to the public

[vital crescent]

Thanks!

[past remnant]

Have they announced a list of changes for season 9 like they did in S8?

[next flint]

not every single change like the patchnotes will have, just some major points like the rogue and ranger new skills/perks and inferno rework

[past remnant]

Wow rogue shadostep on rogue is going to break melee vs caster lol

[rich barn]

yea for solos its gonna be rough

[frail flame]

if it has a minute+ timer and forces people to build resourcefulness it will be balanced

[magic zenith]

if you do warlord with druid should you even use panther or is it just better to do with spear?

[rotund vale]

So in the water level it just doesnt work at all? While the bard can play the flute under the water?

[slate hawk]

Many abilities are cancelled by water. I would vote for the flute not to work as well.

[rotund vale]

I meant there are almost no dark shadowy areas on that map

[frail flame]

patchnotes will prob release with the wipe update, you can watch the season 9 trailer on youtube for some sneak peaks

[magic tiger]

Wish the wipe was like today or tomorrow so I could play all weekend lmao

[plush aurora]

Thought the tavern master torch this season was gonna be green. This shi is piss yellow. Rip

[glacial chasm]

Tavern Master torch is green? Did you mean the Demigod reward?

[plush aurora]

You use it in game? Hella yellow

[pure wigeon]

My report numbers turned yellow

[glacial chasm]

Weird it's green for me.

[subtle rose]

maybe in the new inferno it'll look more green

[plush aurora]

New trailer looks dooope. Paul workin overtime.

[valid quest]

The rogue teleport being able to us on teammates is going to be a crazy mobi tool

[plush aurora]

The can remove full invis now that shadow stepp is a thing. Rogue now has a gap closer.

I might not even run stealth on rogue at all now. PDR, Vigor, Armor Pen, with shadow step seems fun.

[normal leaf]

best bard race? is it cat or croc :0

[low atlas]

No clown emoji on eas9 trailer. Nice.

[candid sand]

so, does this mean the rogue is getting plate and polearms now? 💩

[subtle rose]

wut

[icy plover]

croc if u have a good hat for it

[drifting scaffold]

one of those rogue perks seems to be anti heal ?? idk

[timber orbit]

Croc race does nothing if you put a hat on

[candid sand]

i just figured that was the direction we were heading since every other class is slowly getting to use them 🤷‍♀️

[icy plover]

ohhhh dang

[subtle rose]

wut

[normal leaf]

nightmare?

[timber orbit]

Croc is better in low gear where you won’t be wearing hats, but in high end gear croc literally does nothing because you’ll want a hat for the stat padding

at the high end you give up 4 of a stat (such as vigor for leather cap) and four entire blue rolls, for 4 dexterity and slightly more headshot damage reduction

[limpid forge]

holy shit no clown reaction from todays @

[timber orbit]

everyone saw a rogue teleport through a door in the latest trailer and are visiting their local church to pray

[limpid lion]

tbf if you get hit through the door like that it's your fault

[limpid forge]

thats tuff

[candid sand]

you must know ben? ben dover? buddy of yours?

[frigid flare]

[quartz arch]

Hold the liners filled the react slots before we could get clowns in

[timber orbit]

“We” like the clown react adders have formed some kind of syndicate

[candid sand]

we need a react button for obsequious sycophants 🫂

[frigid flare]

Its a Union

[timber orbit]

i should see if they have a good 401k

[glacial chasm]

Two warring tribes square off to see who dominates this seasons reactions. It looks like the line holders have 3-0d their opponents this match. Tune in next announcement to see the next round.

[frigid flare]

you get paid in emojies

[subtle rose]

wut

[misty ridge]

bring back og disarm pls

[fair lintel]

what do you guys think will be the season pack rewards? new background like this season or something else?

[languid hull]

?

[subtle rose]

why?

[icy plover]

nah

[misty ridge]

because it got nerfed since people couldn't figure out how to space it like BoC, ignite bonk wiz, or Smite

and now it's just useless

Actually, remove disarm add combat roll

[fair lintel]

I 2nd this lol

[misty ridge]

🥐➡️

[normal leaf]

so car?

[timber orbit]

if you like wearing hats, yes
the croc race effect disables if you wear a hat

[glacial chasm]

I run the dex cat for bard.

[quick pilot]

Finally rogue is getting some love

[mighty blade]

Anyone in need of some help? Let me know!

[crisp frost]

been telling yall we need shadowstep noone listened bro

[quick pilot]

I wonder what the perks are about

[slate oasis]

When's new season start ?

[sacred notch]

Guys this is it maybe the first good season let them cook

[drifting scaffold]

[subtle rose]

Agreed, we get an actual decent meal and people are STILL complaining

[broken heron]

ima brokie and need like 50k more for the religion skin, any gifters

[crystal isle]

Do we think squire royale is same as squire to riches??

[fiery yew]

yo any spare fulgors around here? kinda hard to clutch with stinky on arenas

[crystal isle]

Cuz if squire to riches is basically HR loot but where you have to queue in just squire gear that is actually incredible

[glacial chasm]

28th of this month.

[subtle rose]

it already is, they are continuing that into next wipe which is awesome

[gaunt oracle]

IRONMACE, going into season 9 please fix:

• Ember Gem droprate. I've never seen one. Its a key. Put it in the Firedeep metal chests where it belongs please.
• Achievements: Craft 100 lockpicks is broken, Kill Fire Colosuss doesn't exist, Collect 10 Black Roses is impossible since they no longer spawn in dungeon, and escape 10,000 times and kill 10,000 giants are ragebait
• The cockatrice merchant. I shouldn't need to restart my game for him to restock, c'mon

[molten arch]

29th , their never on time.

[glacial chasm]

28th is wipe.

[molten arch]

And new season start will be 29th not hard to understand timmy he asked when new season start.

[glacial chasm]

Even if I only had five hours on the game, the announcements have the information. Look under developer comments. #📢announcements message

[fleet bramble]

Ping system, finally. So excited.

[glacial chasm]

Yeah it’s pretty cool. 🙂

[molten arch]

Rip gk

[ember snow]

Wind Locket buff or change to PDR?

[molten arch]

Give us legacy mode to enjoy things that weren't broken ironmace!

[subtle rose]

first let them build the game to release then do that

[molten arch]

We'll be seeing them treat their new project the same way before dark ever hits a 1.0

[carmine void]

-wake up
-check announcements
-see no mention of fishing
-cry
-log off

[coral crater]

bro stop being such a doomer, it's so counterproductive

[gaunt oracle]

right click -> block -> enjoy your peace

[iron bough]

but no big content so far

[drifting scaffold]

im happy with the inferno updates. a lot less red slop

[glacial chasm]

Inferno rework, new boss, new mobs, rogue/ranger are getting new perks/skill. I am sure there’s a lot more they haven’t shown, like crafted gear.

[iron bough]

dark and darker player after receiving the bare minimum:

[main carbon]

why can the druid cast in dream walk tho

[glacial chasm]

What big content changes do you expect every three months?

[iron bough]

idk maybe a inventory system after +3 years?

[glacial chasm]

Like backpacks, or like item rotation, search, etc?

[iron bough]

y but what do i know, it takes 5 scientists to implement it in a video game

[gaunt oracle]

lol

[glacial chasm]

🧍‍♂️

[wary trail]

can we nerf rouge tp already?

[glacial chasm]

Looks to be a duration skill, that once activated is triggered by ranged damage. Doesn’t seem horrible.

[wary trail]

it is any ranged class is now getting destroyed on solo

[glacial chasm]

I mean any ranger class would be blown up by a landmine rogue with no visual/ audio indication that they are in danger. You now have a skill activation, a non invisible rogue, and ranger damage that all have to happen before he can TP. Rogue TP could end up being a low duration skill, with distinct audio that allows you to play around it. We have to see

[loud pond]

would you like more than 3k players on the game?? i mean let a rogue eat a lil. how ab before we whine and complain we see how it plays maybe ???????

[wary trail]

no this wipe they reduced movment so that rouge can get a literal tp

[loud pond]

as it stands right now rogue is underperforming. let the devs cook man . . .

[glacial chasm]

No they didn’t? The removal of MS stacking was an amazing change.

[drifting scaffold]

yeah imo they chaned a lot this wipe to set up these new abilities

[floral steeple]

not the gut of agi as a stat tho

[exotic seal]

gm bud 🫂

[glacial chasm]

Eh, had to happen it seems. People still use it. I don’t though.

[exotic seal]

amazing change

[floral steeple]

they gotta nerf adren rush tbh shouldnt give ms, and stack with sprint.... the little things

[drifting scaffold]

gm 🫂

[glacial chasm]

I think you should only be able to run one, not both. I use to run both, it’s very strong.

[floral steeple]

its a little op tbh, you can play slayer fighter ranger and basically be untouchable

[glacial chasm]

Mhm, squishy but fast.

[lyric spoke]

lets ignore the bugs that ruin your game experience and focus on fishing

[floral steeple]

aka ranger but slightly less bow buffs lmao

[lyric spoke]

can't wait to be rogue main next season to teach these rangers a lesson

[pseudo knoll]

is auto sort not gonna be s9?

[vernal marten]

As a rogue main…. I hope to see all of you in the dungeons…. I.. am.. atomic…

[atomic schooner]

i do hope i see you in the dungeons. ima be playing rogue aswell. i wanna see what happens if two rogues tp at the same time to eachother

[vernal marten]

I would imagine we just clip through the map or something..

[glacial chasm]

You get the Skyrim wagon scene. “Hey, you’re awake!”

[broken heron]

Holy @hexed adder please do something about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHmQtZwM2vY

this is abusing power. delux

[supple drift]

why shadowstep has no effect animation? why not add it like imp's teleport?

[past remnant]

rogue gets insta tele meanwhile sorc has a cast timer and animation for theirs

[golden plover]

the scene in the trailer where he teleports to the wizard in the middle of gc looks like there is a purple effect of some kind but idk for sure

[odd compass]

Bro... stop fighter walks

[supple drift]

ah i see it a bit. need more obvious effect!

[paper crane]

In a game where magic,stealth and ranged are king fighter walks to work with a sword trying his best while moving slow af

[atomic schooner]

i hope so lol

[rustic void]

What’s the actual wipe date/time again? How long is left

[supple drift]

i heard that luck is working now. is it?

[paper crane]

they probably don't want to announce the time because every time a wipe happens it gets delayed like 8 hours

[odd compass]

And i choose to do it i like the game of forcing mistakes

But at what point will fighter get a dash

[quartz arch]

Ironguard has been a joke since day 1.

[rustic void]

Fair, how long did it say on leaderboard was left?

[paper crane]

Some way to close the gap, sprint sucks so much, you get a small speed boost that gradually goes away in 6 second, that got nerfed twice already.

[gaunt oracle]

yeah, if only the fighter had a brief burst of speed ability. what would we even call it? Haste is taken... Dash is too on the nose... how about Sprint?

[dusty smelt]

For once I think ironmace lowkey cooked

[odd compass]

Not to mention that all the reworked abilities on melee got nerfed to oblivion once they came out

These rouge changes will be reverted at some point ranger stuff will stay

[grim vine]

honestly kinda impressed with this new stuff coming

[supple drift]

i wish druid can have more dmg spells. like firefly swarm or thorn floor..

[past remnant]

Yea, caster druid would be nice.

[lapis birch]

It is

[rain dome]

First ever announcement without the clown emoji, could this be the change we needed?

[odd compass]

Where is that guy that spams buff chicken @ thorn something I think right

[paper crane]

hey you get 9% speed for 2 seconds now 6% for 2 Seconds now 3% for 2 Seconds okay, now fight the barbarian that has a 7% speed boost for 6 Seconds that can also slow you down,the rogue that can ambush at 10% additional speed for 3 seconds and can now teleport through doors, the wizard that can cast 2 spells become invisible and 10% faster for 6+ seconds stacking with buff duration like everything else,sorcerer lightning teleport, and the warlock that cast curse of pain on you and the second you got close used phantomize,ranger is just naturally fast and can slow you down, fighter is strong but in endgame he suffers so hard.

[supple drift]

cool, that's a good news.

[iron bough]

yo sdf we dont know korean

[lapis birch]

I wish cleric had more spells too, or half of bard songs were actually useful

[stray token]

anyone speak korean

[odd compass]

The curse cl000wn meme was fire

[supple drift]

and wizard that needs more arcane or ice spells..

[safe coyote]

man its crazy this lawsuit still going poor ironmace

[odd compass]

Yea buff wizard 🫃

[past remnant]

kinda weird how they have 3 perks that only apply to 3 out of 15 spells lol

[iron bough]

i dont understnad

[edgy topaz]

Hey good luck Ironmace, I hope you all can get free and start working more on the game.

[turbid elbow]

what bro said, too much text

[drifting scaffold]

wow finally lawsuit closing

[brave garnet]

april 30 check your mail

[hollow furnace]

game is shutting down, they stole it

[heavy valve]

weird af that he posts that before the case is settled

[iron bough]

are we finally getting a inventory system after this lawsuit?

[molten arch]

crazy work saying you wanna improve game but dont listen to the community.

[brittle copper]

yeah i aint reading all that

[blissful stump]

chat is it over?

[sudden shoal]

Screw Nexon, game will go on

[hollow furnace]

there will be no game after the lawsuit lol enjoy the last week

[dusk elk]

I hope Nexon puts it in your studio’s hole after falsely banning thousands. Karma at its finest, good job screwing yourselves over

[sacred meadow]

Stop watching so much reels and shorts and maybe your attention span will broaden

[quartz arch]

Its over, he's already preemtively giving excuses.

[sour zenith]

didnt he just self own himself. hes like “we didnt havr support for p3 so we left to make our own company”

[primal ore]

It's jover Nexon bros

[molten arch]

hopefully nexon will sell this to a real dev

[drifting scaffold]

nexon leadership intentionally delayed a key person from being hired to p3 project, which was sdf's final straw*

[misty ridge]

TL;DR, According to testament of sdf, CEO of Ironmace and the original founder of Dark and Darker, Nexon severely underfunded P3, and someone who applied to work on P3 was never even assigned to work. Despite having over 20 people on it, only 1 was focused on design.

Following that, he lost hope in P3's development, and left Nexon. He claims to have, not now or ever, intended to infringe upon Project P3's copyright.

They do not know what to expect just yet, but will keep us posted

[brave garnet]

thats not even close to what he said

[quartz arch]

just slide it in man

[molten arch]

right on the money actually xD

[autumn igloo]

SMH who let sdf post again

[timber orbit]

that is literally what he said

[turbid elbow]

think they locking sdf up, damn feels bad bro

[last sedge]

Problem with bard is how useless 90% of his skills are

[sudden shoal]

It's basically saying they will either lose or win at April 30th, and they claim it's a whole different game then p3

[nova tusk]

Fuck Nexon

[sullen burrow]

all im gonna say is if DAD gets shutdown someone better release the source code and server files 😄

[sour zenith]

Yes but NEXON owned P3. So NEXON can choose to do whatever they want. If an employee is part of tesla and theres some new tesla car with a pee funnel and he likes the pee funnel but tesla decides to scrap it. The employee can’t break away from tesla, make Teslo and have a tesla car with a pee funnel named teslo.

The dude literally self owned by saying they left nexon because the project they were working on, while working for nexon, was not supported. That is literally a violation of company owned property in usa at least.

If I make a spreadsheet where I work with functions and all kinds of cool stuff in it, I do not get to take it with me if I quit.

[brittle copper]

bro how tf did that even come to ur mind

[brave wharf]

nexon using arc raiders money to sue dark n darker further

[empty thicket]

What is P3 from Nexon?

[sour zenith]

The movie “clear history”

[turbid elbow]

the game sdf was working on before leaving and making a similar one

[cunning kindle]

so this is the last week of dark and darker or what?

[wicked sedge]

the basis for dark and darker when the dev team still worked for another studio

[sudden shoal]

Dark and darker old version

[molten arch]

nakwon was dogwalking DaD anyways well be alright

[last solar]

I’m also wondering what time wipes normally happens the countdown just goes to the 28th but I don’t know if that accurate to the hour they plan on starting the new season

[sour zenith]

also weird take to say “build dark and darker from the ground up”. when the entire game is unreal packs. From the models to the quest system

[brave gull]

wait so this supreme court ruling on april 30 could actually shutdown dark and darker forever? am I correct in assuming that? they didnt commit copyright but all courts have found dark and darker stole 'trade secrets/insider info'?

[sudden shoal]

All I want is for iron mace to survive and Nexon to die off with their Pay to win garbage, iron mace took their garbage and turned it into a good game they got no rights over dark and darker and couldn't manage it, they would just milk it and shut it down

[rich walrus]

SDF = Smart Thief

[vagrant talon]

Wizard hasn’t been touched since the playtest days. Zero new content but rogue and ranger have had it piled on.

[wicked sedge]

technically it could but i think it’s highly unlikely

[frigid dragon]

The entire fighting and combat system which is what truly makes dark and darker unique and separate even from all the other games trying to copy it. Was completely made from the ground up.

[gaunt oracle]

I expect the servers will go down around the time the wipe countdown ends. then 8-12 hours later they will come back up with our accounts having been wiped, welcome to season 9.

[torpid vigil]

Unreal. Wrong U word bro lol

[rich walrus]

SDF = SMART THIEF

[sour zenith]

Perma wipe coming on april 30 from the sound of it

[primal plover]

lowballing are we?

[gaunt oracle]

Paul is here, don't worry bbygrl

[quiet pecan]

holy shit you guys are still getting sued 🫃

[sudden shoal]

If dark and darker gets shut down, hey we had a good run. got to hold a bloodthirst

[iron dragon]

Semi semi semi semi semi semi wipe incoming

[flint sandal]

Criminal charges was dropped. It’s only civil rn

[torpid vigil]

Why don't you hold my stinky stick already

[empty bane]

the stats are trash bro, its not even worth a tear

[opal sluice]

ヾ(＾-＾)ノ

[lapis birch]

It seems like legal stuff is coming to and end this month

[quiet pecan]

beaurocracy sucks ass and the people who weaponize it deserve to be lactose intolerant

[sterile torrent]

Damn they really gave rogue teleport and insta kill? Guess the game can finally die

[azure snow]

Season 9 COOKING

[fallow carbon]

It's like saying you can't sell Limonade because the Earth has the ownership of the Lemon grown onto it.

[bleak coyote]

people wanted invisb gone. It's gone. Stop complaining

[iron dragon]

Rogue and ranger changes making me want to quit before it starts

[torpid vigil]

Joke rolled over his head :(

Also stinky is a slept on artifact. Only swapped off it cuz too many aegis and fulgor users countering me

[lapis birch]

Try not to call something broken challenge 100% impossible

[sudden shoal]

Shit I actually been thinking of making a stinky stick build 😂

[sterile torrent]

So mad 😂 enjoy ur dead game

[arctic helm]

Why is IRONMACE doing illegal stuff?

[azure snow]

I agree rogue needed a update but not ranger ffs now over draw insta shots with exploding arrow wowww

[gaunt oracle]

lol SDF kicked the hornets nest with the discord ping

[empty bane]

nothing wrong with it in general, just your one is terrible 🙂

[lapis birch]

You are here too, bounty hunter, enjoy your wipe

[iron dragon]

Ranger needed nerfs not buffs ffs

[torpid vigil]

Didn't you just call it trash? Y'all need to make up your mind 😭😭

[sudden shoal]

Ranger was fine how it was I thought tbh, maybe even on the more powerful side just needs some gear, nerfs to ms really hurt it the most

[lapis birch]

No new stuff complain new stuff gets added complain even more, that's what we do in the tavern!

[iron dragon]

Nah, longbow is the most oppressive item in the game

[empty bane]

Talk about not getting the joke, the joke here is that your johnson is in fact of poor quality and no one wants to hold it for free.

[torpid vigil]

Ahhh clever. Nevermind you're forgiven 🧠🧠🧠

[sudden shoal]

Don't worry, I saw that one xd

[empty bane]

also why buff ranger, class was in a good place already

[iron dragon]

Why is there no aim sway when holding a bow drawn? Why is there no inaccuracy when moving and shooting? Literally every game ever does this except dad….

[hazy flint]

When wipe?

[sour zenith]

except its not lol. Its like sayinng you cant sell Doctor Pepper soda as Nurse Pepper with the exact same ingredients as a base that you change the can from red to yellow for after working for Dr pepper inc for 10 years, learning everything about it and deciding to leave because they decided to cut your funding to a level you did not like.

You can not work on a project, design, develop, etc while being PAID by a company and then leave and use that knowledge and design you were paid for to make your own thing with that knowledge and design.

In america at least. korea could be totally different. The problem here is they were paid to work on P3. If one of you in this chat who didnt work for nexon somehow heard about p3 and then bought a bunch of unreal packs and asset flipped, no problem no lawsuit.

The lawsuit is that nexon paid these korean indie devs, the korean indie devs got mad that they were being defunded, left nexon, and then took p3 design / development knowledge and made dark and darker

[empty bane]

meh I feel like a ranger is the equivalent of an olympic level archer

[brave gull]

ironmace devs are former nexon devs. they had 2 court cases already wherein they were found innocent of copyright infringement but likely guilty of using insider info and stealing trade secrets based on memory. in 6 days on april 30 the korean supreme court that supercedes the previous 2 courts will rule on the case either burying ironmace in fines/shutting down the game. or giving ironmace a slap on the wrist. one of the two

[sudden shoal]

Cause there's already action/cast speed to worry about that would be a whole additional mechanic that all classes would have to be balanced around kind of

[half ermine]

Please for the love of god let jewelry drop in the dungeon next wipe

[arctic helm]

So why did IRONMACE steal the assets then if they’re innocent?

[empty bane]

I really like the current system

[shrewd pollen]

I still beg for an obsidian armet

[sudden shoal]

Ragebait

[royal trench]

You cant steal something that is for the public.

[teal idol]

Is there precedent for this type of case?

[trail magnet]

YES thank god im not the only one saying this

[hazy flint]

When wipe?

[half ermine]

Dawg I’m not trying to be forced to quest and mine for jewelry

[frigid dragon]

Imagine hog riding a multi billion dollar company like they are going to come hire you. Most charges have already been dropped as a friendly reminder.

[brave gull]

idk i dont know the exact court proceedings, just the lower courts found them innocent of copyright infringement but believe there is a good case against them that they stole insider info/used trade secrets based on memory. Idk how the korean supreme court will rule just giving an update on what will likely happen to ironmace in 1 weeks time

[empty bane]

it already drops in two dungeons dawg

[lapis birch]

Trade secrets based on memory is only the thing in Korea btw

[lethal edge]

So they get final verdict April 30?

[royal trench]

Worst case scenario they get a fine. Nothing major

[sour zenith]

oh i could give a shit about nexon lol, i just think its funny he self owned in public saying they were working on p3 while employed, didnt like that p3 was defunded so he made his own company to make p3 (dark and darker)

[half ermine]

A key room? Really bro? No way you think that’s enough lmao

[sudden shoal]

Fuck Nexon they deverse it bro who wants to work under a p2w slop a studio and have your skills go to waste making generic gacha slop, they made iron mace cause they were tired of the horrible Korean gaming practices and around the world on general. Screw you.

[iron dragon]

That’s not a self own, in most countries that’s completely legal

[empty bane]

pretty much its fine for the window of ssf

[molten plume]

to make dark and darker which is like P3 which was never released nor made any profit so don't go comparing it to dr pepper

[brave gull]

we dont know that for sure tho. there is no precedent for this in korean courts

[half ermine]

I strongly disagree but you do you timbo

[royal trench]

Lol where did you dig that information from?

[empty bane]

after that you can simply buy what you want from market if you dont wanna farm, timbo? Bro you cant even hit a rock

[gaunt oracle]

I like Dwarfs

[fair lintel]

what do you guys think will be the season pack rewards? new background like this season or something else?

[sour zenith]

thats crazy if thats legal in most countries. A girl where I work got fired and wanted me (as the IT admin) to delete her files / send them to her. Literally a felony lol.

[fresh flare]

PAUL IS THE CHOSEN ONE

[iron dragon]

Stealing info can be, but the court already ruled nothing was stolen

[lapis birch]

Whatever will happen I'm glad the case is over and they can fully commit to game

[empty bane]

the reason nothing was stolen but the game looked very similar is because nexon were using the same assets from the store

[drifting scaffold]

real

[sudden shoal]

Nothing was stolen, Nexon can fuck off and go make some dungeon borne slop

[lapis birch]

They made nakwon but it's third person

[iron dragon]

I hope iron mace wins and counter sues for losses to bring dark back to what it shoulda been

[drifting scaffold]

don jon born what happen

[rich walrus]

THEY STOLE THE INFORMATION ...... THEY STOLE THE LIST OF ASSETS ..... SEPERATED IT AND PURCHASED AND DOWNLOADED THEM ALL SEPERATLY ....... TRIED TO PULL a SMART THIEF .............. SDF = SMART THIEF

[empty bane]

not to be Judgy but the pivoted Arc into an extraction game and with their corporate support look at it

[lapis birch]

Ok time to take your pills

[molten plume]

multiple police investigations only for this guy to know better

[drifting scaffold]

turned it into a third person game🥀 💔

[rich walrus]

THEY CONFIRMED IT LMFAO

[half ermine]

Idk SDF so cooked would anyone really be surprised if he stole the game? Man literally had to step down cause he was running it into the ground lmao

[slate hawk]

Please stay respectful, don't insult others. Try not to create any conflicts.

[lapis birch]

Well yeah investigation is one thing the other is what they find, which in this case was nothing bruh

[ornate valve]

either someone will get 10+ years in prison, or 5-10 billion fine, its all good

[fallow carbon]

You didn't talk at all about P3 project assets or knowledge, you talked about Unreal Engine assets, it's completely 2 different things

[arctic helm]

If this is true, then I lost all respect for IRONMACE. Looks like I won’t be supporting these criminals anymore.

[sudden shoal]

Idk man, arc has very different combat haven't tried it yet but I wasn't a fan of the finals or these corporate games in general

[lapis birch]

Go read announcements it's literally an article explaining it

[sick totem]

When's the monk class coming out??

[azure snow]

SEASON 9 GONNA COOOOOKKK

[empty bane]

its cool to have opinions man, I am just going by playerbase and release state

[molten plume]

they were judged guilty of remembering their work, nothing was proven stolen.

[azure snow]

@proud copper RELEASE SEASON 9 TONIGHT

[pallid dragon]

Chat when is wipe

[lapis birch]

28

[slate hawk]

Planned for April 28th.

[empty bane]

Do you speak Korean or work for Ironmace? for context

[sudden shoal]

Yeah I get u, maybe I was wrong to call Nexon p2w, who knows it could've been successful under them but feel like it would be way more arcade like, and I wouldn't enjoy it

[azure snow]

@proud copper RELEASE SEASON 9 TONIGHT ITS THE WEEKEND WHY THE 28TH ON A DANG TUESDAY

[lapis birch]

It's what documents read literally

[empty bane]

I mean Ironmace have done really really shady things with their p2win too.

[molten iris]

Is this final court Sdf’s project?( rrestaurant idea still better )

[molten plume]

auto translate and whatever confirmations in english I could find, don't act like its more ridicilous to say they didn't do it when the court cant confirm they did then it is to say they are guilty

[lapis birch]

If dad was owned by nexon it would be gacha slop eventually anyone claiming it would be better never played Nexon game, arc raiders being the only game without it reason not being strictly asian market

[severe glade]

Any tarkov gamers here?

[empty bane]

is Dave the Diver Gacha?

[spark star]

How will the ruling effect players either way?

[next flint]

Hope sdf gets justice, fk nexon for trying to take credit for his creation despite not believing in it until they saw it succeed.

[desert maple]

Im not sure who cooked up that trailer but my god im so glad to see some ATMOSPHERE return to DaD

[lapis birch]

It's not even live service and not strictly asian

[lyric totem]

@proud copper pls add some abilities to crossbows. there is too low amount of it, only on one class - ranger, all of it is perks and all of it is about numbers like "+ N dmg, +N action speed". make some interesting mechanics and something active

[sudden shoal]

Extra stash tabs u mean? Or what? I guess we'll all just have to wait till April 30th to see the case actually wrap up

[empty bane]

In the game dungeons and dragons, can the rogue class use a spear?

[lapis birch]

Cleric can use daggers

[desert maple]

yeah but unless you're proficient in it you wont hit much, but you can use w.e you want

[empty bane]

Yeah I think one season they did liek 100k of stuff for one of their season passes @lapis birch Wait I thought clerics cant use bladed weapons, which edition are we talking boys

[lapis birch]

I think 3 or 4

[sudden shoal]

I don't think so, unless it's a special perk or rules, usually spear is fighter weapon mostly I think

[desert maple]

5e you lose sneak attack but you CAN use a spear, just 90% of rogue is sneak attack dice lol

[empty bane]

I think I am basing my assumptions on 2nd edition

which is a no for the cleric and the rogue apparently. interesting

[lapis birch]

I'm not big into it take it with grain of salt, anyways if dad was balanced into original dad then it would be hot mess

[vestal obsidian]

Is overdraw just worse true shot?

[lapis birch]

It probably add large amount of phys based on charge time

[empty bane]

apparently in multiple editions they can use quarter staff

[vivid wasp]

I can already see it oneshotting ppl

[empty bane]

If anything it will put longbow on par with windlass for 1 shot potential I dont think its much more than that

[vivid wasp]

I imagine it will have attack power scaling so building that is gonna increase the dmg a lot

[misty ridge]

I played some DnD earlier. My entire party got wiped by a random knight

[empty bane]

was it a spectral knight?

[unreal garnet]

P3 MENTIONED

[supple drift]

I like oreo icecream.

[empty bane]

also in the wall of text was the employee male or female that returned from child leave?

[bleak coyote]

does it matter?

[empty bane]

no just curious

[iron saffron]

Caster classes will be the victims of the wipe

[subtle rose]

5-10 billion is not fine lol

[empty bane]

Why? they already had shadow step and explosive arrows

[unreal garnet]

male, according to one of the linked articles

[empty bane]

nice how long do dudes get for paternity leave in Korea? Sounds great

[lament bane]

so is sdf back ? 🙁

[unreal garnet]

idk but the lawsuit was about him being on "standy" for nearly 2 years without being reinstated tot he P3 project? idk what thats about tbh

[karmic cypress]

It's not like he quit

[empty bane]

well I wondered if it was like in Japanese culture where they dont give you work and hope you quit

[unreal garnet]

im assuming its similair. Nexon just had him in a corner on "standby" idk if that means bs busywork or literally straight chillin, but yeah they weren't putting him back onto an active project for no clear reason

[lament bane]

yeahhh but is he back working on dnd instead of that p3 project

[gaunt oracle]

I heard he was starting a restaurant

[unreal garnet]

what are you asking? DnD is the P3 project

[karmic cypress]

People just be saying stuff

[mighty blade]

Overdraw will shoot a faster projectile + in a straight line like elven bow.

[empty bane]

so long as he is not cooking Kekw

[ornate valve]

I didn't pick the price of the fine, thats korea, all i did was look it up

[subtle rose]

i know i know i'm just saying its not all good with that price tag lol

[empty bane]

leave it, its funny

[supple drift]

just dont hit them accidently. use zap instead of fireball.

[mighty blade]

Honestly, keep it. It makes it more fair.

[shrewd pollen]

can you still earn the arena rewards?

[empty bane]

no

[atomic schooner]

just dont aim at teammates then. if they are in a melee fight with someone and you want to fireball. aim behind the enemy

[shadow palm]

so is wipe tomorrow

[fickle linden]

maybe dont tk

[empty bane]

look bro wants to go ham with his BT I get it

[shrewd pollen]

duck

[atomic schooner]

3 days 14 hrs

[supple drift]

GOOSE! *runs away laughly~

[empty bane]

I have not killed the troll a single time this season, that is messed up

[supple drift]

i like cyclop

[gaunt oracle]

IRONMACE, going into season 9 please fix:

• Ember Gem droprate. I've never seen one. Its a key. Put it in the Firedeep metal chests where it belongs please.
• Achievements: Craft 100 lockpicks is broken, Kill Fire Colosuss doesn't exist, Collect 10 Black Roses is impossible since they no longer spawn in dungeon, and escape 10,000 times and kill 10,000 giants are ragebait
• The cockatrice merchant. I shouldn't need to restart my game for him to restock, c'mon

[atomic schooner]

[velvet wren]

is the boss in the trailer ignir the one that brainwashed the dwarfs?

[quick oar]

No Im pretty sure those bosses are the new hell stuff cause hells getting revamped iirc

[molten plume]

[hard mountain]

Bro why is rogue getting new shit 😭

[eternal knoll]

[molten plume]

I heard they are taking away invisibility not 100% sure also other classes are gonna get new stuff... in 3 months next season

[hard mountain]

Taking away invis would be huge. Plus given the new abilities, I don’t think that’s a problem at all

[tawny oak]

rogue is getting new abilities, are they on live?

[eternal knoll]

[sonic rover]

can someone dumb down this lawsuit

[gaunt oracle]

If Ranger "First Aid" perk allows you to deliver potions to party members, I'll be roleplaying as a fkin leprechaun istg. Dwarf first aid ranger with a dozen small luck pots just force-feeding good fortune to my random fill teammates

[near copper]

Make ruins the first floor for every dungeon, keep ice map, maelstrom and goblin caves queues up, but make it so there are red statics that can take you to every map from ruins. A watery cave entrance for goblin caves, a forest module with a layer of snow heading to the ice caves along with stairs leading to the crypts, add a dock with a boat that takes you to the water map.

[hard mountain]

Don’t think so. But yes rogue getting new abilities. It’s in the video under community announcements

[fluid barn]

Why does this game crash my pc

[tawny oak]

ty

[ember thunder]

thank god they got rid of the bleeding walls and mystic foreboding runes in inferno, game needed to be less scary. Eagerly awaiting the new unicorn boss and rainbow sparkle decor

[sonic rover]

are you the real ape in english

[supple drift]

because it telling you to run away from this game. take this an opportunity to be free.

[gaunt oracle]

nah, I died waiting for 3D gathering halls 😛

[fluid barn]

I’m literally seeking refuge from Tarkov

[supple drift]

[hard mountain]

Sdf work on game for big company. Game not getting support from big company. Sdf quit company to make own studio. Sdf take basic idea of old game and make new game. Big company sue sdf for stealing game. Sdf didn’t steal game, but has to defend anyway

[mighty blade]

Question! Anything special about the midnight stag in terms of drops? Like, what does it do exactly

[drifting scaffold]

read this like the guy who does the CTE videos great summary

[sonic rover]

lmaoooo thanks 😂😂

[timber orbit]

gives you an item that vendors for a lot

[deft cobalt]

drops like 3 different things which all have different value to the vendor, i think the most expensive is 30k

[hard mountain]

Oh! And verdict comes out by end of month

[hallow notch]

is there a limit for bluestone shards we can have?

[sacred dagger]

No additions to cleric or wizard? Good thing I have this game uninstalled. Back to good games like slay the spire 2 and elder scrolls 6

[supple drift]

dont forget league 🙂

[fluid barn]

Nah legit tho why does this pos file stealing game keep kernel 41ning my pc I’ve checked literally everything redownloaded it twice on the stupid launcher and once on steam drivers are good it’s not a pc issue I’ve got a pretty high spec pc that runs literally every other game without issue if anyone knows something I’ll give you the biggest hug ever

[timber orbit]

only a limit to the amount you can earn per wipe (up to 10)

[sacred dagger]

TRUEEEEE!

[scenic tiger]

Fast start up off, drivers/bios up to date? First things that come to mind

[fluid barn]

Yep and yep and yep

[scenic tiger]

Its over

[bleak coyote]

no, they closed last week

[carmine void]

Yes.

[exotic seal]

Yes!

[scenic tiger]

Idk otherwise all other documentation online references hardware faults where power would be high in consumption so maybe PSU or GPU fault somewhere, maybe cooling? I give up

[shrewd pollen]

Well next season i guess i better play arena before thelast week

[unreal garnet]

i mean yeah, they already did. except instead of fishing they focused on boof like workshop

[fluid barn]

Preciate it, unfortunately it’s not a hardware issue and I’m just gonna give up lol. Game ran alright for years and all of a sudden it’s literally unplayable I mean it blue screens me on the loading screen

[unreal garnet]

whoa excited for the Gloomy Demon fight??

[supple drift]

not really. i think it might be another butt hitting again... like fire colossus. so.. probably wait a bit more for ironmace to add more attack patterns.

[unreal garnet]

the FAB listing looks like it has 5 or 6 animations with it already, should be interesting

[supple drift]

thats cool, but i still gonna keep my expectation low.

[olive lake]

Give druid the ability to use 20th century firearms please trust

[spark dagger]

Very first time in my (long) Dark and Darker Journey, that I've done aaaallll the Quests. I finished them all. I Hated them, I loved them and hated them again. See you next season (in 4 days)

[gaunt oracle]

solid work, congrats

[proud blaze]

if shadow step is okay give wizard polymorph already

[molten iris]

yeah buff penguin

[mighty blade]

Ahhh, that's it? thought something super cool

[carmine void]

God I can’t wait to fish in the dungeons..

[deft cobalt]

nah no weapons or armour like the other rare mobs but still, nice amount of gold to get though for looting 1 thing

[fringe totem]

as a fighter main the new trailer gave me nightmares

[cold parrot]

Yall think we're gonna get artifact armor ever?

[carmine void]

Prolly get armor before we get fishable fish at this rate

[rancid bane]

🥚

I AM REGENERATED

call me the doctor

[torn jay]

artifact arena over today? no arena over weekend?

[vocal nebula]

why tf barb get iron will as if that class isnt already stupid

[idle iron]

Anyone thinking squire royal will have a solos mode?

[rancid bane]

fishing will be goated

[cold parrot]

Ah yes I forgot they just added iron will last week

[icy plover]

lol

[vocal nebula]

was that supposed to be funny?

[cold parrot]

Tuna laughed at it. Not anyones fault that you can't handle Iron will lol

[icy plover]

it made me chuckle fr

[vocal nebula]

i mean barb is literally one of the most op classes why they giving the mf iron will too lmfao if you had a brain youd think thats dumb too

[restive lotus]

Error code 16....... I can't fix...... wtf......

[gaunt oracle]

I like Dwarfs

[harsh gorge]

You're kidding right? Barb needs Iron Will because the only ranged option they have is Fran.

[icy plover]

real, now they need it even more against magic ranger

[vocal nebula]

okay and?

[harsh gorge]

I mean I summarized most of what I had to say in the above post, there's no and bro. Barb is one of the weakest classes rn.

[vivid peak]

This guys a master baiter^^

[icy plover]

takes one to know one

[vocal nebula]

they dont need range when theyre able to get 200 hp against a class with very low hp def not one of the weakest classes

[rancid bane]

[harsh gorge]

It doesn't matter what your HP pool is if you're getting 3 shot by rangers and warlocks.

[vivid peak]

[vocal nebula]

3 shot lmfao yeah lmk what ur building please

[harsh gorge]

I build vig/dex/str with Iron Will/Axe Mastery/Berserker/Skull Splitter. Felling Axe and the Bardiche as primary weapons.

[vocal nebula]

but you get 3 shot by warlock/rangers?

[harsh gorge]

8% from robust is not worth it anymore imo. I've definitely been instant killed by a quick shot, and curse ticks + one two longsword hits.

[candid sand]

fighters in plate with no sprint and keeping up with everyone while swinging away like merril is getting reeeeaaaaaalllllll old

[molten plume]

try dodging

[vocal nebula]

theres 0 reason to be getting 3 shotted when playing barb i find that so hard to believe

[slate quartz]

final ruling april 30 let's gooooo. tired of your legal dispute but it's millions of dollars on the table so fight fight fight

[nimble sonnet]

shadow step looks completely unbalanced unless you have one and you cant regen even with campfire it lmao

[rancid bane]

We all have been hopin and prayin' let IronMace win 🙏💖

[velvet moth]

W ragebait

[bronze shore]

Is there any chance the game gets shut down with a L ruling?

[rancid bane]

Prolly not to be honest, but there is alot of money on the line, like everything legal is

[blazing marten]

why can i sometimes not repost w longsword parry

[cold parrot]

Nah its a skillshot, its more balanced then invis

@rancid bane Can we lower the slowmode?

[bronze shore]

Yeah he'll update it right now just for you

[cold parrot]

No reason for it to be this high rn, people arent spamming

Ty Dave

[rancid bane]

I have put the request in ❤️ (it requires higher power)

done 😄

[rancid bane]

🥚

[pure wigeon]

My report numbers turned yellow

[mighty blade]

That's true, and the cool encounter as well

If anyone needs help with quests etc. let me know!

[oblique wraith]

did we win the lawsuit that was too much reading for me lol

[rancid bane]

not yet ❤️

[oblique wraith]

fuck..

[rancid bane]

April 30th is the "final verdict"

[oblique wraith]

looking good for us?

[vestal harbor]

when is wipe again guys?

[rancid bane]

Yeah to be honest, i'm pretty optimistic

[wicked temple]

🫃

[errant shore]

I dislike Nexon

[past pewter]

I mean IM has pretty fair reasons for trade secrets so i would say that it's gonna be fine

[errant shore]

Hey look, if my family did me wrong, Id leave to and go find a new family XD

[mortal musk]

Do you mind if i ask what are the odds for Ironmace on this?

[errant shore]

I don't blame them for wanting to get support for a video game and then "Guess ill have to do it myself" attitude comes into play

[hallow lagoon]

It's hilarious how anytime I see these "pRo pLaYeRs" in squire to riches, they get absolutely stomped. Every single time.

These folk truly need their stat gap to succeed.

[past pewter]

No one but the lawyers knows really but would say like 65% for IM

[mortal musk]

is this really the final hearing?

[past pewter]

According to ironmace yes

[errant shore]

I do squire to riches on on my own, I go in solo and steal portals, it's super funny. No one expects it

[mortal musk]

There's no turning back for ironmace, they need to win this

[hallow lagoon]

I do that on my rogue as well when the homies aren't online yet. It is super satisfying to pull off.

[rancid bane]

In my opinion(not connected to ironmace) i'd say a good 70/30 chance in ironmace's favour

[supple drift]

I like oreo icecream.

[mighty portal]

refund linux users!

[mortal musk]

30

[rancid bane]

yesssssssssssss

[errant shore]

yea because from me being new I understand portals are limited?

[past pewter]

would minus out like 5% because it's nexon but yeah

[rancid bane]

Nexon will use everything in the book, but in the end they really have nothing to go off of, other than spite

[mortal musk]

30% is still a big cookie, I hope they gonna get rid of this burden so that they can fully focus on the game, Nexon really wants to squizze every money from Ironmace just for Dark and Darker to die

[errant shore]

yea nexon using a lot of he say she say tactic XD

[rancid bane]

yeah, but i think the game regardless of outcome will be fine

[heavy valve]

why is sdf commenting on an ongoing court case at all? shouldn't he wait til after everything is said and done to publicly comment? unless...

[mortal musk]

as a future game programmer/designer, I would not join a company on the verge of multiple lawsuits, you're just gonna drag on it

[rancid bane]

well people still signed up even though nexon basically control the media on this, soo you never know

[neon kite]

Dark and darker will still be standing after the 30th mark my words

[solemn garden]

sooo what did sdf talk abt?

[zealous tulip]

Dark and Darker isn't going anywhere.

[broken pagoda]

NERF RANGER

[azure snow]

Lol sybaun circle-k hiring bud

[fallen crypt]

wym? it’s already settled they’re just finalizing it

[rancid bane]

"On April 30, the Supreme Court of Korea is scheduled to issue its ruling in the civil lawsuit currently ongoing between Nexon and us"

so no it's not lol

[fallen crypt]

yes

the ownership of ironmace stays ironmace, and ironmace owes nexon 5m Yuan

lol

[rancid bane]

Bro, they appealed that, and this is that appeal 😭

[fallen crypt]

that was the appeal, this is the inside info ruling that’s coming up

[rancid bane]

they went to the supreme court to appeal

[fallen crypt]

ya

[unreal garnet]

they only had to pay half, so really they won. saying this as a conditioned shmuck btw

[rancid bane]

not the regional court

[fallen crypt]

okay we’re just talkin about 2 diff parts of it i thought you were saying 70% ironmace keeps their studio

[civic oriole]

is the game in a good state rn? havent played in over a year bc the devs were braindead

[rancid bane]

no bro 😭

[fallen crypt]

okay david

[timber orbit]

Dave

[unreal garnet]

same devs, draw your own conclsuions

[rancid bane]

helloooo

[unreal garnet]

who is ready for Gloomy Demon??

[heavy ember]

the fuck? i thought they fucking fixed this bullshit rating thing

why the fuck does it matter what any fucking rating is right now?

[mighty portal]

I'm ready to get a refund for not being able to play the game that i purchase

[civic oriole]

who is paul tho

[wind juniper]

imagine sdf, but put him in a suit of armor

now you got paul

[rancid bane]

paul is paul 😄

[lapis birch]

Paul is god, Paul is savior

All hail Paul

[wind juniper]

paul just needs his first patch 69 and the cycle will repeat

[subtle rose]

Paul hogan

[unreal garnet]

i think paul gave us the midair slowing on actions performed. magic winds or something. idk W paul or something tho

[wind juniper]

ain’t that a new ranger perk

[rancid bane]

how to play dark and darker

wait this isn't google

[wind juniper]

oh no that’s windfetch same thing tho

[visual swallow]

born in the darkness

and molded by it

[lapis birch]

How do i steal from random people passing

In dark and darker as rogue

[wind juniper]

next season me and the boys are putting together a group to go learn how to kill skele champ, there’s like 10 of us you should join us we need every soldier we can get

[unreal garnet]

how to hide from mobs without playing rogue
oh wait.....

[lapis birch]

How to drink white potion as barbarian

[unreal garnet]

"hidden" being nothing short of pure invis = W

[wind juniper]

in their defense, something invisible is hidden pretty well

[unreal garnet]

and crouching behind a barrel or halfwall is the same as just... not doing that and basically shouting at the mobs 💀

[lapis birch]

Dude are you crazy bring some epic loot weapons, I found one with +3 weapon damage lately it's the best I have

[wind juniper]

no way would i bring that into dungeon wtf, that’d be a shrine in my stash you lucky mf

[dreamy vine]

Yes

[dim wyvern]

what's with those new skills for rogue and rangers?????? Holyyyyyyyyyyyy

[rigid spade]

one for riches if anybody likes channel 47

[wheat smelt]

Nice Db you lost you aint gettin that back lol

[gaunt oracle]

I like Dwarfs

[cunning crypt]

we know

[soft kettle]

andddddddddd dark and darkers gone in 6 days enjoy it

[mighty blade]

It won't be gone, they'll partially win the lawsuit

[uncut fossil]

There was a moment of absolute stillness, as though reality itself had paused to observe a violation of natural order. My report numbers turned yellow. Not green in benevolent clarity, not red in honest alarm, but that pallid, aristocratic yellow suggesting quiet condemnation delivered in silk gloves. It did not announce danger; it implied it with chilling refinement. Even the idea of correctness seemed to withdraw from the screen. And in that suspended silence, the yellow remained, perfectly composed, like something that had already decided my fate.

[exotic seal]

My report numbers turned yellow

[soft kettle]

idk if one court ruled that trade secrets were used undeniably its really a toss up imo

[uncut fossil]

i cant wait to not be able to play the game anymore because i dont have tpm

[mighty blade]

Let's just hope they won't lose.

Even if it did happen, Nexon would've failed P3.

Glad this idea isn't in their hands

[soft kettle]

yeah thats fair been hoping for 4 years xD

[mighty blade]

Nexon would've pumped micro transactions in this game and made it even more repetitive as it is, with anime-like graphics

[soft kettle]

no im aware of that but courts wont care about what they were gonna do with the game

[uncut fossil]

is dark and darker getting sued again?

[hollow atlas]

I dont care who wins or loses. I would rather know who actually is in the wrong. If IM did steal an IP from another company this spells huge trouble for all other IPs. AND if they didnt. Then yaaaay more games!

[mighty blade]

Let's really, really hope the court will go easy on em, they do deserve to make this game big

[mighty blade]

Exactly. If that happens, alot of other companies would be in the wrong aswell. Its not the first time someone used their memory to make a new game.

[soft kettle]

at least we know we get to spend 2 days with the stupid rogue abilities lmao

[mighty blade]

That's gonna be fun. Shadowstep, smoke bomb, pickpocket, leave. Ultimate rat form

[hollow atlas]

Queue everyone crying their class was not buffed

[soft kettle]

nah im a rogue main cant wait

[mighty blade]

I'm glad for once they buffed my 2 main classes after years of waiting

[soft kettle]

rogue actually was nerf and nerfer since playtest though

playtest rogue was also insanely broken

[mighty blade]

Very!

[rugged wind]

[mighty blade]

Missing the ol' days with how many Timmies there were who you could aid and protect

[lost plover]

Its been proven in court they didn't steal the idea and that they are fundamentally different the issue is whether or not the knowledge of the game impacted their timing and release and development. However the IP's were proven different.

[lost plover]

ooooooooh i didn't think to use it for pickpocket............. that'll be fun

[jagged bison]

did they reduce the luck on artifacts?

[atomic schooner]

i will be bonking every rogue i see do that

[mighty blade]

Forget what I said. I'm gonna use this idea to bring my twitch to balladeer level with all the strams 🫡

[mighty blade]

Can't bonk what you can't see, squeek squeek

[rugged wind]

[foggy dawn]

will there be SSF at the start of the season?

[lost plover]

Let me know if you want help. I need to get back to streaming.

[atomic schooner]

the second i get hit with a knife or bolt im turning around mid swing

[lost plover]

So shadowstep backflip?

[mighty blade]

Maybe we can do some duos. started streaming again since yesterday after a month

[rugged wind]

[mighty blade]

Then I'll go dwarf skin, so you won't notice me

[lost plover]

Nice! I just got internet put into the new place so I'm down to stream sometime

[mighty blade]

Sweet! Just hit me up when you're ready

[atomic schooner]

that aint gonna change anything. you still getting bonked

[dapper summit]

yo ironmace remove @woeful iris from your in game moderator access

[woeful iris]

wdym?

[urban remnant]

ill be gathering everybody's tears in a bottle while im in the dungeon

[dapper summit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHmQtZwM2vY

ur actually scum lmao @woeful iris

[supple drift]

I like strawberries

[wind juniper]

pawkoh is a fucking bot

[lyric spoke]

i missclicked a dik gif pls dont mute me or some shit

[drifting scaffold]

wHooOoO???

[hexed nymph]

Seconded

[timber raptor]

My report numbers turned yellow

[rugged wind]

[worldly mauve]

Get rid of Grayson like ya did with sdf and the game has a real chance to bounce back

[wind juniper]

that trash can spent like an entire day in a bis barb kit hiding in a corner of 2nd floor gc just to grief anyone doing colo because some warlock made him sad

[copper ravine]

when wipe

[unreal garnet]

Whos ready for Gloomy Demon??

[mighty blade]

When you're done pooping

[golden bough]

anyone have spare wiz/barb/ranger to spare for arena/

[lucid lark]

What day is wipe?

[young saddle]

When the in game timer ends

8 hours after prolly live

[rugged wind]

[radiant badger]

who gotta nip for me trying use it 🙏

[fickle canyon]

[rugged wind]

[marble widget]

is the game worth reinstalling for the wipe or will it be another nothing burger

[uneven stream]

rogue ranger rework + inferno rework looked sick

[timber raptor]

My report numbers turned yellow

[radiant badger]

who gotta nip and or spear for me trying use it 🙏 🦧

[velvet wren]

echo of screams price?

[rugged wind]

[uncut fossil]

My report numbers turned yellow

There was a moment of absolute stillness, as though reality itself had paused to observe a violation of natural order. My report numbers turned yellow. Not green in benevolent clarity, not red in honest alarm, but that pallid, aristocratic yellow suggesting quiet condemnation delivered in silk gloves. It did not announce danger; it implied it with chilling refinement. Even the idea of correctness seemed to withdraw from the screen. And in that suspended silence, the yellow remained, perfectly composed, like something that had already decided my fate.

[storm hatch]

is there a wipe soon? i wasnt active lately

[lucid wyvern]

There was a moment of absolute stillness, as though reality itself had paused to observe a violation of natural order. My report numbers turned yellow. Not green in benevolent clarity, not red in honest alarm, but that pallid, aristocratic yellow suggesting quiet condemnation delivered in silk gloves. It did not announce danger; it implied it with chilling refinement. Even the idea of correctness seemed to withdraw from the screen. And in that suspended silence, the yellow remained, perfectly composed, like something that had already decided my fate.

[short needle]

anybody got an empty coin chest the don't want? I don't have enough room to accept the gold from this tear sale lmao

[harsh ermine]

My report numbers have turned yellow

[heady nexus]

mine too

[drifting scaffold]

[pastel elm]

they got the starcraft 2 archon voice in the EAS 9 trailer?

[rugged wind]

[empty bane]

I was just quickly buying one on market for liek 19k and then selling it after the deal

[mighty blade]

Any other quest line with emotes/special stuff next to goblin, tavern, religion, season and collector?

[short needle]

sadly I've spent all the gold I got on a chest and the rest on bags and still don't have enough room

[odd wedge]

123

[compact furnace]

yo does anyone want to donate 80k gold to me, so i can get the religion reward?

[rigid hatch]

Are there cosmetics at the end of any quest lines right now?

[mighty blade]

Tavern master, collector and goblin merchant

[rigid hatch]

Thanks

[mighty blade]

Goblin merchant will cost you around 900k, or you can farm the item

[drifting scaffold]

collector*

[mighty blade]

Thanks for correcting

[drifting scaffold]

🤝

[queen gazelle]

can somebody sell a tear for less than 85k so i can afford it thanks

[rugged wind]

[stark mirage]

There is only two quest related cosmetics?

[uncut fossil]

HOLD THE LINE!!

[exotic seal]

My report numbers turned yellow

[uncut fossil]

my report numbers turned yellow

[hallow lagoon]

I blocked all the losers talking about yellow report numbers 🙂

[warm fable]

❤️

[exotic seal]

🥀

[heady nexus]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lucid wyvern]

Please

[heady nexus]

why

[lucid wyvern]

Im sorry 😢

[median beacon]

They are the smartest people in this discord no troll

[half ermine]

Once again BEGGING for jewelry to drop in the dungeon again next wipe. WE DO NOT WANT TO QUEST AND MINE FOR JEWELRY

[errant isle]

Then dont lol. Wait till ssf is over and there will be a ton on the market. I crafted rings in the beginning but then it was easier and cheaper to just buy them

[quaint carbon]

My report numbers turned yellow

[half ermine]

Dawg do you not want to just play the game kill mobs and get jewelry? I will have purple rings within the first week of wipe regardless. It is a dumb system that provides nothing for the game

[rugged wind]

[errant isle]

Hmmmm. I wasnt necessarily mad about the change. It honestly hasn't changed how often I wear rings and pendants. Idk. Plus those items are good for selling now. I dont think they are gonna change it back though.

[vale crow]

My report numbers turned yellow

[hallow lagoon]

Who gonna tell them about the static jewelry spawns in raid?

[olive willow]

theres one?

[half ermine]

Like I said, I’ll have purple jewelry within first week regardless of system. However it adds nothing to the game other than a required grind in ssf. Why force people to quest and mine copper for literally no reason. @hallow lagoon yeah man 2 spawns in rusty key rooms are so much!

[hallow lagoon]

Maybe play squire to riches mode if you want to not worry about going in with jewelry. It's a better, more fun mode anyways.

Or maybe you're just another "gamer" who needs to have the gear-stat advantages.

[half ermine]

I don’t think you understand my point. I personally run jewelry every time. Now you mention s2r which actually shows why it’s such a dumb system. In an entire s2r raid (the most popular game mode) there is only potential for 2 pieces of jewelry to be dropped for the entire population. Again, I will have purple jewelry within the first week regardless. The whole being forced to craft jewelry is nothing but a pointless grind system

[olive willow]

kinda the point of the game gathering gear and making a kit...

[hallow lagoon]

"the point of the game is what I say it is" ahh comment

[olive willow]

i mean theres s2r for a reason

[hallow lagoon]

Sure, there should be a jewelry spawn in every key room, not just rustys.
But also like.. just do the quests.

But also.. wipes should not reset vendor affinity. <- this is where the main annoyance comes from, re-doing everything all the time

[olive willow]

if thats ur sauce thats ur sauce

[half ermine]

Ok but why should it only drop in key rooms? You do realize they used to drop off bats and mummy’s frequently. I’m asking you what do you gain by being forced to quest and mine for jewelry. Again I will do that if we are forced to. But why do they think that is more fun than simply playing the game and being able to fill all your equipment slots as you go through the dungeon?

[hallow lagoon]

If wipes didnt reset vendor affinity, then you would only have to get the resources during SSF. Not so bad, as you should really be getting those on your normal routine through the raids.

[half ermine]

Literally the point of wipe is reset everything so everyone is on the same playing field

[hallow lagoon]

"the point is what I say it is" ... right...

Yeah dude, we're all on a level playing field for 2 hours. Nice logic.

[half ermine]

Ask anyone why there are wipes in an extraction game… what are you on?

[hallow lagoon]

S2R is the level playing field, so play that if you like wipes for that reason

[half ermine]

Bro you’re lost but to each their own lmao

[hallow lagoon]

I've heard many different invalid ill-informed reasons. Especially the one about keeping the markets from dying or whatever.. just no. All wrong.

[rugged wind]

[olive willow]

This guy is lost in the sauce

[half ermine]

Bro thank you. I actually don’t know what’s going on in his noggin lmao

[hallow lagoon]

Amazing arguments. Well debated.

[mighty blade]

Anyone need help with quests or other things? Let me know! (no handouts)

[olive willow]

Do you know how to kill wyvern? I havent learnt that boss and need it for my quest

[rugged wind]

[mighty blade]

very rusty with that particular boss, but i can try

[olive willow]

LOL i get that, dont need to if not feeling it

[earnest venture]

i mean that.. literally is the point of the game

[mighty blade]

Well, I'll probably die alot to that boss, but i can do other things!

[half ermine]

Bro you want to talk about “if wipes didn’t resent vendor progression” idk how to tell you this but they will reset vendor progression. And in order to get jewelry you will have to quest and mine for legit no reason. It’s not an argument. If you enjoy questing and mining for no reason go ahead lmao

[earnest venture]

again.. hes right..

[hallow lagoon]

Hmm, nah. The point is to enter the dungeon, crawl it, and survive. Loot and fight along the way as filler activities. "but to each their own", right?

[half ermine]

Bro that guy is legit lost

[earnest venture]

the loot kinda is the point

[olive willow]

with no gear apparently either cuz "gamers" dont need stats

[earnest venture]

thats the “extraction” part

[wicked sedge]

the point is to have a good time :)

[hallow lagoon]

HOW DARE YOU THINK IT'S NOT TO JUST GET GEAR!

[urban root]

any clue how long after wipe arena will be open?

[rugged wind]

[half ermine]

Yeah let’s make sure in the zero to hero mode (s2r) it’s impossible to end the raid with a full set of jewelry! Genius!

[hallow lagoon]

Bro is so lost in the jewelry sauce. SAD!

[median beacon]

It isn’t designed to play one singular game mode the entire wipe

Plus if you never go in with anything why would you complain? You can’t even take jewelry in

[past remnant]

I've never seen anyone use the leviathan. Is it worth the money?

[earnest venture]

i mean i agree the jewelry grind is annoying but its not that bad. its literally 1 common arcane essence for shitty jewelry

[wicked sedge]

earlier this wipe i lost a kuma kit to a leviathan barb who was goated with it, using the waves to heal his ranger duo and everything

[hallow lagoon]

Just go ahead and say "I don't play the game to be to good at it or have fun, or any of those kind of reasons. I play to fill my stash with jewelry so I can look at how pretty it is and feel accomplished".

I respect that

[past remnant]

is there no cooldown on the waves?

[half ermine]

Dawg yall really don’t recognize when a system is designed to waste your time with no benefit do you?

[earnest venture]

the changes were meant to slow down progression and i like that personally

[olive willow]

this guy, im crying bahahah

[barren stone]

Is wipe tmr or Sunday?

[wicked sedge]

not that i know of but im actually not sure ive never used it myself

[drifting scaffold]

arcane essence was easier to find than I thought it would be too

[hallow lagoon]

I play S2R. No time wasted here. Can't relate.

[past remnant]

If not thats kinda crazy. 10 hp over 3 seconds is not bad lol

[vernal phoenix]

bro ijumped into the abyss on frost amp and now im just drifting in darkness do i just leave?

[lunar tapir]

shadow step OMG what is even this game bro

[mighty blade]

Little secret, and most will hate me: Wanna farm easy essence, up to uniques? Kill the baby turtles on maelstrom HR. Easy kills, easy loot.

[earnest venture]

exactly. takes 1 raid to get enough for 2 full sets of green jewelry lol

[drifting scaffold]

next wipe cockatrice too 👀

[wicked sedge]

i ended up dying because he kited me out by slowing me with the waves, underrated arti at the very least imo

[half ermine]

So you wouldn’t rather find a full set of jewelry in s2r? Do you not remember how nice it was to get a 2mh green ring when you’re on cleric or warlock. Anyways bro I don’t think you use much brain power so you do you

[drifting scaffold]

cockatrice pet was significantly buffed late this wipe i'm actually gonna do it next wipe lmao

[wicked sedge]

shhhh

[olive willow]

im starting to think this guy just ragebaits, this might be top tier leveling acting

[hallow lagoon]

I'm having a blast on the game without putting barely any jewelry on. Hard to believe, I guess. 🤔

[mighty blade]

🫶

[half ermine]

That generally what I assume too

[half ermine]

Happy for you bro

[earnest venture]

trident and leviathan are broken imo

[hallow lagoon]

I hope they make jewelry harder to get just to piss you off about it. ❤️

[rugged wind]

[earnest venture]

slows you so much, a barb with leviathan just apes you and you cant do anything besides try to parry

[wicked sedge]

trident is pretty nutty for sure, especially for the price

[earnest venture]

yeh spear is my fav melee by far and its arti is s tier

[earnest venture]

honestly they should just make jewelry drop off skeletons and mummies rarely. not just everywhere like they used to be, but also not only dropping in rusty imo

[half ermine]

Again bro, I’ll have the quests done for purple jewelry within the first week. It’s literally only bad for players like you that main s2r or are bad at PvP.

[wicked sedge]

arming sword is by far my fav, claw is pretty nasty but i feel like it’s still one of the weaker artis

[earnest venture]

fang and ball is just disgusting

[wicked sedge]

especially when it’s more expensive than pulv but gets outperformed by pulv 99.99% of the time

[earnest venture]

and honestly i prefer cutlass over arming

[drifting scaffold]

cutlass artifact when

[wicked sedge]

aren’t we supposed to get 10 new artifacts this next season? thought that was in the qna

[half ermine]

Bardiche artifact when

[earnest venture]

cus with cutlass you can do the entire pattern and it does more base damage

[wicked sedge]

leaked already, called “raptor”

[earnest venture]

never mashala barb has enough artis

[half ermine]

On god?

[thin bronze]

we need a crossbow arti

[half ermine]

I want more purple artis tbh

And higher spawn rate for the mobs

[wicked sedge]

on froy

[hallow lagoon]

You think it's bad. I think it's fine.

Tell me what's so bad about it? Is it because one or two players get a couple extra stats? That sounds like any other mode in the game. So it seems like a non-issue if we zoom out. Now explain to me why it's so bad for us to not get more jewelry in S2R, aside from the slight stat bias to the obtaining player(s) (who earned it in-raid, btw).

[thin bronze]

4shot hand crossbow from rust

[wicked sedge]

REAL

[thin bronze]

The new boss is a Baelroc right?