the-tavern

[alpine stump]

Mi bomboclat

[naive grove]

so still no rogue ranger content, guess going to be waiting for 2-3 more seasons for the wiz changes i am actually waiting for

[mossy talon]

not all patches are big my guy. This just makes you look ignorant it doesnt make them look bad.

[mortal musk]

They made weapon guard unsable after the patch, might as well switch back to counterattack

[amber spindle]

Dont worry theyre only focusing on the biggest problems at iron-mace hq like nerding longsword and shooting bard behind the barn

[amber spindle]

Tell me why the balance patch nerfs bard??? Tell me why its better nerfed than buffed OR EVEN LEFT ALONE

[north summit]

life will be dream as soon as the other classes get their new stuff, barb and fighter got tons of new stuff and the other classes need it so badly

[mossy talon]

if you're bad at math or only play sqiire it may seem like a nerf to bard

[naive grove]

how is it a nerf? the only nerf is to pve am pretty sure sure its a buff in pvp

[shrewd pollen]

darn they nerfed my lesser healing

[bleak coyote]

bard is boofed, not nerfed. pdr is way more usefull in fights

[amber spindle]

It harms pve alot, it buffs it against pdr stacking enemies nerfs it against non

[shrewd pollen]

guess im not healing for like 40 to 50 hp with a single lesser heal anymore

[mossy talon]

it was OP and absolutely deserved a PvE nerf. 50% bonus damage against bosses is RIDICULOUS

[mortal musk]

Weapon Guard perk was the one that made longsword fighter build deadly, now it's shit

[amber spindle]

Tell me 5 current bard players

TELL ME IF YOUVE SEEN ONE SINGLE BARD IN THE DUNGEON THIS WIPE

CAUSE I HAVENT

[shrewd pollen]

long sword fighter is kinda always deadly unless i missed alot more then that single nerf

[mossy talon]

brother im not such a no life that i memorize other players. I see bards every single day.

[mossy talon]

try playing high roller for once then

[grand drift]

i play bard

[shrewd pollen]

bards are usualy just rushing goblin cave bosses

[gaunt oracle]

every HR dungeon I go into is full of bards and druids

[shrewd pollen]

try being there in HR

[bleak coyote]

every single person I see fighting wyvern is a bard on HR, all season

[north summit]

they pretty much are all bossing though, only bard looking for pvp is majora in viola delerium kit

saw a full interaction resource bard today who was literally just trying to tap pile. ran away the second he saw me xd and checked him the second i extracted

[mossy talon]

thats because they didnt have their buffed armor reduction yet 😄

[amber spindle]

So now bard is practically useless against bosses (comparatively speaking) how many bards will you see in dungeon

[north summit]

bros got pile LOCKED DOWN

[bleak coyote]

that was not the question

[mossy talon]

probably plenty dude, its got tons of awesome perks for collecting loot and now it actually offers the team more utility.

[shrewd pollen]

Honestly bard of all classes should have never been the Main bossing class. Their a bard their suppose to be more support oriented

[errant isle]

That or warlock, but 9/10 its a bard

[mossy talon]

bro is just mad that his rat strat got nerfed and he might have to learn the mobs mechanics

[gaunt oracle]

they fixed luck before nerfing shriek. bard is gona be just fine. no other class gets free +100 luck, +5 reso, and doesn't need lockpicks. bard is still the farm god

[amber spindle]

Your genuinly insane if you think bard has enough utility to justify running it over ANY OTHER CLASS with gear (specifically with gear) WITH GEAR ONLY!!!!!

[fallen crypt]

buff longsword

[mossy talon]

if your goal is loot, its the BEST CLASS IN THE GAME

[gaunt oracle]

YURR

[subtle rose]

me doing wyvern on rogue is gonna pay off

[amber spindle]

If your FUCKING POOR its the BEST SCALING CLASS AT SQUIRE IN THE GAME AND NOTHING ELSE

[north summit]

people running full luck bard just for the wiki to say "luck has no effect as of now" LOL

[gaunt oracle]

bard > rogue > druid for farming

[mossy talon]

i dont think you understand your own class so that explains why you're mad

[young thorn]

It literally was fixed recently.....Luck does work

[north summit]

ik, im just saying it was cooked for a LONG time

[bleak coyote]

squire cleric on HR abyss for farming

[gaunt oracle]

wiki doesnt say that tho. luck got updated. wiki is more up to date than you bro

[amber spindle]

Now its rogue > druid > every other class > why play bard lmao??? Hop on rogue

[dusty timber]

STR getting rid of blue portals was such a good idea

[mossy talon]

hes literally just making a joke get some literacy skills guys

[north summit]

k, once again, im just saying it was cooked for a long time while people were actively making luck videos end of wipe

[gaunt oracle]

past tense exists. use it to avoid confusion

[amber spindle]

Ik my friend spent 20k on a bis luck kit and died first game i couldnt stop laughing

[gaunt oracle]

literacy skills is ironic

[shrewd pollen]

I mean kinda yeah . its suppose to be squires to riches not welp i got some stuff dident fight 1 guy time to dip on the first blue screw you team mates

[mortal musk]

bro, Weapon Guard before this patch buffed longsword a lot

[celest bay]

New quests incoming?

[dusty timber]

exactly

[mint wasp]

bring back weapon guard

[mossy talon]

ironic that i understood what he meant and you didnt so you begged for more clarifying words because comprehending existing context is too hard? yeah bro nice own

[north summit]

whatever u say 🤓

[amber spindle]

They gotta make squire to riches mode hr loot

[broken garnet]

Harmonic SHIELD now gives pdr and mdr instead of armor rating, aint It the same? Lol

[gaunt oracle]

birds of a feather... how does the rest go?

[amber spindle]

Maybe even buffed, honestly make it better than hr

[mossy talon]

reduing armor rating against high armor ratings is nearly useless, now its not

[shrewd pollen]

Apprently they did buff loot alot if i dident missread

[mossy talon]

pretending that understanding someones statement is somehow a bad thing lmaooo what a reach

[young thorn]

Unless they change bosses or how mobs are affected/ their stupid resistances then it is pretty nerfed

[mossy talon]

its a massive buff against players. if youre struggling against mobs without this its simply a skill issue.

[gaunt oracle]

i see now, you guys are children. sorry, go about your day. blocked for being a minor

[mossy talon]

lmaooo what a grown up guys

[amber spindle]

I played a bit still ehh not worth it, i want it to be fucking CRAZY the loot you get. Its a ffa where you HAVE to fight to the death. Make it 3 portals only make it go down to hell and end up with 3 blues 9 portals ONLY 6red 3blue and make it fucking INSANE loot

[young thorn]

Gotcha you cannot read. Clearly said BOSSES/PVE you clown.

[north summit]

bro blocked u for "being a minor" in a video game discord, kind of a weird self report on his part am i right?

[mossy talon]

a 50% damage increase is insane and unbalanced. Its the correct move you clown. Grow up and dont enter conversations if you cant handle disagreement

[dusty timber]

the reward tiers for each floor have been significantly increased

[mossy talon]

if pve is hard just get better idk what to tell you

[young thorn]

Lmao got it, you misread and instead of choosing to have even a speck of common sense you get pissy lmao. Enjoy the bblock 6 year old

[mossy talon]

i didnt misread anything, i just disagree that its a nerf.

[amber spindle]

Oh yeah that guys kinda weird, last wipe he was like level 400 druid just sitting in gathering hall perma.

[mossy talon]

you're still reducing their below 0 damage reduction to even lower.

[young thorn]

Clearly still cannot read what I stated you absolute kid. Lmfao showcase of your inability to read.

[mossy talon]

i didnt get pissy, you insulted for NO REASON and are now still crying. Please block me, this chat would be better without you lmao

little baby cant handle a disagreement so he cries and blocks, and pretends his behavior was mine lmao

[amber spindle]

MagerX i have one question, this “buff” you say. Will it actually make bard viable in pvp? Could you genuinely run bard without it being troll?

[young thorn]

Lmao You are the one upset and mad when you misread something. No one gives a crap you are throwing a tantrum. Bye felicia

[acoustic breach]

yea its actually a huge bard buff and i love it

[alpine stump]

Finally I'll craft my 12mheal rings for free

[gaunt oracle]

if you're at the top end of armor rating scaling, its a buff
315 and below, 1 AR = 0.1% PDR
past that, you get less PDR for each point of AR

[dusty timber]

PvE should be a campaign

[rancid pond]

so shriek is buffed vs players but nerfed vs mobs?

[mossy talon]

i have thrown only the same insult you threw at me. I am not bothered at all by you lmao

[gaunt oracle]

seems so, yes

[rancid pond]

W

[mossy talon]

honestly, I will concede that the class still needs some love but is significantly more viable than it was

[amber spindle]

Lol dont make that joke but hes just been kinda like off yk? Like just a little suspicious

[north summit]

👍

[young thorn]

Its a pvp buff while being a PvE/Bossing nerf.

[lost plover]

Please don't make those jokes

[amber spindle]

I just feel like, they didnt have to nerf it against pve so hard when the only really viable way to play is a pve playstile

[mossy talon]

it absolutely is, im not arguing that for sure. Im just arguing its an overall buff.

[acoustic breach]

what in the fuck is a pve playstyle
are we playing the same game

[mossy talon]

the problem is you guys are thinking about solo bard and i think they're working to make bard in groups actually viable again. I liek the direction personally, my best friend is a bard main and im excited for the changes

[gaunt oracle]

cmon paul finish the patch so I can get back to afking the gathering hall

[mossy talon]

i dont think bard should be making boss fights half the duration by simply existing tho

[amber spindle]

Lmao running from any pvp encounters, running boof, speedrunning boses, keys/piles focusing generally that

[mossy talon]

if thats directed at me, noted, will avoid in the future i was just being silly

[acoustic breach]

ratting is not a playstyle

[lost plover]

A couple of the jokes made but I appreciate it

[north summit]

[mossy talon]

its not a fun play style but its definitely a valid one. Not everyone can compete i nthe dungeons so they find their own way, i love that this game enables a bunch of different ways to play when you cant simply run people down

[fallen crypt]

no it didn’t it was a nerf

[young thorn]

Idk they really want bard to be a support but what buffs does it really apply apart from like a few theres no options. Its like they wanted to make a support but had ZERO clue how to make one. Now trying to change it to pvp where it has almost ZERO pvp viability is just stupid. And pulls it further from the class identity as a support/buffer.

[hallow oar]

I thnk the longsword should actually be 50 foot long. At least they didnt update on Arena day

[fallen crypt]

you obv don’t understand action speed and riposte recovery

[amber spindle]

Yes but, why not change it with the rest of the buffs. Idc about the “whole long term whatver goal” weve already just blindly trusted ironmace and that didnt go too well

[acoustic breach]

its not a playstyle its just cowardice

[lost plover]

Please be polite

[amber spindle]

Thats not ratting? Thats just speedrunning pve

[mossy talon]

we dont have any other option but trusting iron mace or picking a different game. This opens up pvp significantly for bards biggest counters which is pdr. Its not the perfect answer but they are a more viable class as a result

[vast karma]

Run and Runner = 🐕 💩

[winter turtle]

are we getting artifacts in arena????

[acoustic breach]

yea my bad let me praise rats for being so good at the game and not being the death of solos

[mossy talon]

you need to chill dude, rats are not the problem

[fallen crypt]

adding impact resist made longsword have a .5 frame reaction time to parry, that is a massive nerf. now they’ve taken that away so weapon gaurd is a useable
perk with LS, but reposte speed is still nerfed too much without shield mastery. the damage nerf is funny, because not a falchion parry does more

[fallen crypt]

that’s not rude it’s their opinion on a gameplay style being cowardly. which is part of being a rogu

rogue

it’s thematic even

mute anyone who discusses rogue!!!!!

[winter turtle]

bro def plays rogue

[amber spindle]

Just cause its a game and we dont have any alternatives doesnt mean you cant have personal opinions on how things should be dealt with? You can say they made a shit change and still enjoy the game, you can realise mistakes and understand that they were bad for the game and still enjoy the game.

[mossy talon]

he very much said it in a rude way. its not what he said its the aggression with how he said it

[vernal anvil]

🫃

[mossy talon]

but its not a shit change, it increases their viability overall in every aspect except pve which they are already exceptional at

[north summit]

playing rogue 👍, playing landmine rogue 👎

[amber spindle]

Objectively its the most cowardly way to play

[lost plover]

Lol no i only play cleric and occasionally plate lock

[fallen crypt]

you’re being kind of ridiculous. a rouge is a coward skulking in the shadows that’s the point

[iron dragon]

ROGUE is boring and sadge come longsword fight me on bridge.

[lost plover]

it can be both sadly

[eager quarry]

I love ratting blue portals in solo as rouge or after you kill the boss I come in for the pvp while youre looting/ back turned

[mossy talon]

am i being ridiculous for agreeing that the words were not the problem which was the root of your point?

[amber spindle]

Lmao you still use that weapon?

[iron dragon]

lmao you still use rogue

[fallen crypt]

Why did your dev team have a QnA promoting in their own words cowardly, clever and elusive rogue pickpocket gameplay then?

can you please address @proud copper and @hexed adder s comments then ?

[acoustic breach]

great playstyle! its so encouraging for people to play against and i cant wait to queue up and fight it 5 times in one single match!

[mossy talon]

the issue was not saying the play style is cowardly???

[fallen crypt]

oh

[iron dragon]

Please buff ranger and rogue, amirite

[fallen crypt]

well nvm then

[lost plover]

Its not the word itself its how it was used

[fallen crypt]

my b

[lost plover]

Please don't try and backseat moderation

[fallen crypt]

i will

[acoustic breach]

ridiculous

[gaunt oracle]

Every time a gamer types "rouge" when they meant "rogue", a Ford F150 loses an O2 sensor

[fallen crypt]

mute me otherwise

[mortal musk]

I got nerfed on this patch

[north summit]

[lost plover]

Dang we lose a lot of them then

[fallen crypt]

no rule against expressing opinion big dog

[mossy talon]

you're gucci mane lol just came in a bit hot is all lol

[lost plover]

Rule 8. You've been asked to stop.

[acoustic breach]

please dont discuss rogue gameplay and use the devs own words or you will be muted
insanity

[mortal musk]

weapon guard is now shit, might consider going back to counterattack

[fallen crypt]

stop what?

[celest bay]

🤞 New cosmetics quests hopefully

[fallen crypt]

my opinion? your power trippin br

[lost plover]

Thats not what was said. Please stop and move on

[north summit]

bros bouta get wheeled away in a chair

[fallen crypt]

oh well

[amber spindle]

Rule8 dont say rogue is a cowardly way to play the game in a totally normal manner

[fallen crypt]

understood

[acoustic breach]

might trip on this later ⚡ ⚡

[fallen crypt]

buff longsword

[amber spindle]

Fr

[young thorn]

With recent cosmetic rewards honestly I want them to ACTUALLY work on making them look good and not stupididly expensive.
If the quest ones are the only ones that look like any effort went into it they really need to find where the issue is.

[iron dragon]

Rule 9 always nerf wizard

[winter turtle]

Rule 10. Buff barb axe spec.

Rule 11. Immediately nerf.

[fallen crypt]

rule 11 ignore rule 9

buff magic missile

[gaunt oracle]

thx Paul, love you

lurkin time

[turbid elbow]

bro always on point, gg paul

[lost plover]

that timing though

[alpine stump]

Invest in unique essence quick before it reaches 100k

[fallen crypt]

it’s better now… why do you think it’s bad now?

[alpine stump]

Pls buy my unique essence 1mil per stack

[edgy topaz]

Is boss only removed in S2R or adventure mode too

[vernal anvil]

ok

[muted locust]

it's crazy how this game is so many years down the line and the devs still don't know how to patch a game live?

[fallen crypt]

it’s worse for all other ripostes now but better for longsword. before it was bad for longsword but good for all others due to the impact power @mortal musk

[amber spindle]

No impact resist kinda usesless no? Doesnt stop weapons anymore

[fallen crypt]

sorry i crashed out

idk why my bad

[mossy talon]

world of warcraft is 20 years old, and they dont do that. maybe you just dont understand the technology

[iron dragon]

Please bring back drum throw bard or I quit!

[fallen crypt]

trying to not be toxic

[frosty sleet]

L patch goodbye best game

[muted locust]

plenty of games do. WoW sucking still is not a reasonable argument

[lost plover]

Its fine. Its late. We're all waiting for the game to come back. We're all doing the best we can I make mistakes too.

[winter turtle]

are we getting artifacts in arena

[amber spindle]

I think its like law to nerf everything bad and buff everything good

[lost plover]

It was hinted at but not confirmed yet

[acoustic breach]

im not sorry
its pretty ridiculous

[fallen crypt]

True, but the impact resist it added for longsword made it so that your reposte window was only .5 seconds… versus 1.75 seconds. made it way harder to riposte any non two handed weapons!

[amber spindle]

I dont believe the devs play the game

[gaunt oracle]

are wind lockets and torq of soul ever getting reworked or we just letting them be disappointments?

[amber spindle]

Nope buffing barb is their topmost priority

[lost plover]

Please move on. You were already asked.

[tough palm]

We can craft unique rings now?

[gaunt oracle]

I wouldnt mind a +100 armor rating or +100 mag res ammy, but I can roll more on a peace neck than current torq/wind. what are we doing

[mossy talon]

my broke ass was able to get 3 arcane essence lol

[fallen crypt]

the bard nerf?

[mossy talon]

we're rich booooys

[lost plover]

Correct. Don't know if it needs another quest yet or not

[mossy talon]

no new quests introduced so i presume if goldsmith is maxed you're fine

[lost plover]

Praise

[tough palm]

Lets go, im rich got so many unique arcane essence

[turbid elbow]

if you did the mysterious potion quest, yea

[lost plover]

The last set was already painful

[amber spindle]

True, its a half nerf half buff but not in a good way.

[mortal musk]

Weapon guard made me able to kill bardiche/felling axe barbs with crush easily

[lost plover]

I bought them when they were 25k. Don't know what they're at now

[turbid elbow]

33k

[frosty sleet]

imo not enough nerfs but i am very delusional so u dont have to agreee

[lost plover]

oh boy its worse

[amber spindle]

Why more nerfs?

[turbid elbow]

the quest is lame ngl but all good

[alpine stump]

buy my mysterious potions from the market, all of them are mine

[mossy talon]

bard was only nerfed against pve but overall its a buff. more nerfs to bard is an insane thought though, they're probably in the worst place outside of rogues

[serene coral]

what does it cost to craft unuiqe jewlery

[frosty sleet]

dont ever make me part of the balance team

[lost plover]

Agreed. I think it was too much personally. I think 2-3 potions would be fine but 5 for such a rare drop was rough

[amber spindle]

I quit i stockpiled a few who want them?

[trim meadow]

ill take em

[amber spindle]

Yeah idk why im lying

[frosty sleet]

even worse bard way to strong

[amber spindle]

Mb yall

[mossy talon]

i know theres been some beef.... but i was just doing that because youre my friend

[amber spindle]

Lmaooo

[gaunt oracle]

hows everyone's demon damage reduction and projectile resistance unique jewelry coming along? lol

[mossy talon]

baited. I'm still your friend but im gonna need some time after that

[frosty sleet]

lol

[amber spindle]

Nah I already gave away my fulgors and the rest of my stuff

[frosty sleet]

he is NOT reading this

😭

[bleak coyote]

made 3 unique courage rings
6% AS, 3.6% MDR, 6.5% DDR

I give up 💵 🔥

[vernal anvil]

[amber spindle]

Last wipe i said to myself “your gonna be a selfish BWORD” and then i end up just giving all the money i make to my duo lol

[gaunt oracle]

thats the spirit

[past lynx]

cap

dont joke lad

[amber spindle]

Yo who is he😭

[fallen crypt]

how? all it do was make them a tad slow to recover. those are weapons longsword hard counters anyways ma

[gaunt oracle]

having fun looking at the new 6d23hr55m unique jewelry listings to see the disappointment

[fallen crypt]

been seeing ppl do this in chats lol

good sign some ppl are done for now

[gaunt oracle]

OfficerThiccy you aint getting 2700g for that 6.3% DDB broda

[amber spindle]

Genuinely have the game fully uninstalled

[fallen crypt]

i just reinstalled after 2 month

[amber spindle]

Only have test server

[fallen crypt]

i regret doing so

[lost plover]

hows the balance feel after your break?

[vocal siren]

Is there an easy way to find when wipes are planned?

[amber spindle]

Ive been playing deadlock

[vernal anvil]

noways there is anyone who plays that

[fallen crypt]

good, it’s just not very fun because i can’t find anyone in the EU

[amber spindle]

Its kinda random ish

[gaunt oracle]

read announcements/news releases

Early Access Season #9 will start on April 28, 2026. #📢announcements message

[amber spindle]

Ish very ish

[fallen crypt]

other players are rare

hopefully wipe it picks up again

[vocal siren]

Ty

[lost plover]

Ah yeah the pain of the end of a season

[mortal musk]

idk about you but I stomp barbs with bardiche/felling axes with crush easily

[lost plover]

It should we're at about 5k conccurent at the end of the season so goodnumbers

[amber spindle]

Probably more populated than live LMAOOOO it got updated to the latest patch due to constant harassment by my friends its very pve based pretty chill

[fallen crypt]

yes i was saying longsword hard counters barb two handed weapons

[acoustic breach]

downloading test server and killing everyone i find

[fallen crypt]

better than the last 3 actually if it is 5k

[acoustic breach]

doubt its 5k, probably 5k total including tavern (bots who snipe market)

[fallen crypt]

i mean you could then argue the other wipes it was even lower true pop as well

[amber spindle]

Dont join the evil chinese (yes there is an evil chinese group killing innocent pve players there is a whole thing going on) but theres also the nice chinese players who are chill

[fallen crypt]

overall if the trend is up that’s a good sign i’d say

[acoustic breach]

i wouldnt argue against it

[raven flower]

is high roller not working for everyone?

[mossy talon]

it costs money to run bots or cpu resources, those number tend to dial down with the player base numbers.

[narrow blade]

80% shriek of weakness nerf is it real?

[lost plover]

Yeah we were at 7-8 for most of the last half until about a 2 weeks ago

[vernal anvil]

fire

[mossy talon]

i responded to the wrong dude

[narrow blade]

50% harmonic shield nerf? is it real?

[amber spindle]

Working perfectly for not me

[rich crane]

cannot jump in crypts 3 times

[alpine stump]

lol i got into hr game and it disconnected me, nice patch

[fallen crypt]

seems like it

[mortal musk]

Weapon Guard made it more easy for me

[amber spindle]

Ooooo paul you messed up

[celest bay]

game crashed on my first Squire to riches

[frosty sleet]

not nerfed enough

[north summit]

oh boy here we go

[lost plover]

Nah they've banned more this season than they ever have. Even expanded the team for it

[amber spindle]

Lmao idk why but i has this vision of paul having to talk to a higher being about dark and darker then being like trialed in heaven for no reason. God i gotta sleep

[fluid rose]

and i disconnected from hr

[amber spindle]

Ggs

[celest bay]

why was PartyChip banned?

[north summit]

who got banned more this season?

[amber spindle]

He was too weird

[north summit]

because hes silly

[hybrid jolt]

I'm stuck in "The match currently in progress. Please wait while we reconnect screen"

[celest bay]

what did he do?

[opaque lynx]

Same

[sudden hatch]

lmfaoo they done gutted druid

ope not druid,. bard sorry

[alpine stump]

same, gonna lose my cinder

[cold rapids]

yeah exact same issue for me rn

[amber spindle]

Apparently he was talking to inappropriately to goblins in the caves

[sudden hatch]

thank you sdf

[sudden hatch]

i giggled

[hybrid jolt]

Gona lose my viola kit... good stuff IronHammer

[amber spindle]

Sdf stepped down its paul

[lost plover]

Bots and cheaters

[amber spindle]

Ik we all be lying a little about what we lose during patches

Wait if you rearange the letters in paul you get sdf

[sudden hatch]

why did they delete my thing

[north summit]

i mean i haven't been range hacked in a bit, but i will say the trade hall bots are still pretty prevelent. 👍 pretty chill doe

[amber spindle]

Im gonna DIE if it wasnt a self deletion 😭

[sudden hatch]

it WASNT

[amber spindle]

LMAOOOO

[midnight sage]

why no bosses in squire to riches

[lost plover]

Yeah the trade bots aren't bannable yet unless they break the rules sadly

[sudden hatch]

moustache glasses are apparently bannabel

[amber spindle]

They dont want people knowing

[acoustic breach]

watch out dude dont fall ⚡ ⚡ ⚡

[mental roost]

whats the ore used

[sudden hatch]

crying

[amber spindle]

Why all the lightning is it a thunderstorm or what

[north summit]

free armor trimming 🙏

[fallen crypt]

lol

[sudden hatch]

trimming ur rune armor for free at GE

[acoustic breach]

nah its more like the static electricity a blanket makes on leg hair

[fallen crypt]

the original scam

[lost plover]

Oh boy take me back to elementary school playing on a library computer

[narrow blade]

great, weakness does nothing now woohoo

[sudden hatch]

i unironically tried this when i was like 10

[fallen crypt]

selling noted rune 2h that def isn’t just a noted steel 2h

[midnight sage]

no bosses in squire to richees?!!?!

[amber spindle]

Do you get shocked every time you send the ⚡️ emoji

[short marsh]

they got poker in old school runescape. thats where I spend all my money

[north summit]

back when u could play games on a computer pulled out of the garbage

[fallen crypt]

huh?

[alpine stump]

rollback pls

[jade yoke]

i cant get in yo a game?

[hybrid jolt]

range hacks no longer exist i believe, AC has advanced enough to detect internal cheats right away

[acoustic breach]

just powerful

[lost plover]

haha truth

[north summit]

so overall great news

[amber spindle]

Ok thorr chill out

[short marsh]

no they are there lol

[exotic stag]

Cant go into deeper floors

[alpine stump]

cant go anywhere

[amber spindle]

And cows have superpowers and they read peoples minds

[alpine stump]

they stealing all of our loot

[hybrid jolt]

you just say that to say or do you have anything to back it up? Haven't seen a clip this season

[bleak coyote]

Same as legend. Just with unique essence and 7 & 3 instead of 5 & 1 of whatever ingredients those required
so 1 uniq essence + 7 lifeleaf + 3 gold for a dex ring. 2 unique + 7 copper + 3 obsidian for peace

[amber spindle]

Dont worry man the shareholders and investors arent here

[alpine stump]

people farming artifacts while you can just go kill some dreadspines and make 100k a raid

[broken garnet]

They wont fix shields or what

[north summit]

unique arcane essence jump in price or will it normalize and be doo doo?

[languid egret]

game server is crash lol

[amber spindle]

I just sold some for 20k

[alpine stump]

mysterious potion jumped from 10k to 50k, still not many people finished the quest and now theyre trying to

[hybrid jolt]

what you even talking about ?

[swift herald]

what do dreadspines drop?

[alpine stump]

the potion needed for unique crafts

[sacred meadow]

yeah my games screwed

[short marsh]

elitepvper. its all over. just look lol

[amber spindle]

You dont have to lie and glaze the super advanced ai cheat detection system man, leave that for the fucking anticheat devs or ironmace u just a random guy

[sacred meadow]

cant take reds

[languid egret]

dungeon server crash sdf help meeeeeeee

[forest ember]

welp great lost my shiet

[bleak coyote]

until they figure out it costs them 10k per ring in material that will give them random stats like +1% demon damage

[alpine stump]

lol

[raven flower]

gg game crash

[amber spindle]

Already 14 confirmed artifacts deleted by the bug GGS

[hybrid jolt]

show me a clip, of someone getting range hacked this season, then we can talk. People will try to scam and sell detected bs on cheat forums - that's a no brainer

[open swan]

game crashed?

[short marsh]

the clips are are the forums. look with your eyes. no one cares about detection now adays unless its dma users and there are tons of them here also.

[hybrid jolt]

not glazing, but that's the truth, the cheating problem with range hacks, rogues walking in hide for half the map, arrows automatically curving into your head - I haven't see a single case of someone encountering anything this whole wipe

And before every week we would see highlights on youtube

[amber spindle]

I remember the old anticheat lmaoooo i got banned like 8 times and then they just made up an excuse to perma me

[urban bison]

HIGH ROLLER PVE

[lost plover]

There's been a few but its been way better this season

[next flint]

Removing bosses in s2r? Why that seems lame

[amber spindle]

The shiny guy is even agreeing with me

[hazy garden]

are we getting rollbacked or we lose all our gear cause of server crash?

[north summit]

naw they gotta be doin something right, i used to be like "i 100% was just killed by a cheater"
to "he might be hacking"
to "i just got shit on"

[celest bay]

"The match is currently in progress...."

[short marsh]

anti cheat is still buns. I know people who are actively cheating right now. not banned. I know ppl blatently cheating and it takes them 2 weeks to get banned. the cheats are out there. spectacting cheats. ghost mode. all that lol. why I stopped playing lol.

[worthy shuttle]

i almost killed BT barb with squire staff wiz

[rich shoal]

it the game down rightnow ?

[lost plover]

Lol I'm agreeing that its better. I've just seen a few cases where its happened.

[oblique radish]

bruuuh game is down bad

[lost plover]

Then report them?

[jade sedge]

I cant go into crypts

I just get kicked back to lobby

[marble pond]

Wouldn't be surprised, there's crazy amounts of speed hackers on OCE, their anticheat obviously sucks

[bleak coyote]

esp has been a thing since the playtests. It's insane how little IM cares

[hybrid jolt]

not sure why would someone even go and dig into cheating forums to look for something. But don't trust everything you see there. Use common sense. There are people playing this game 8-14 hours/day, including me.
Statistically, we would encounter such cheaters at least once this wipe

[amber spindle]

They enjoy hackers it gives them alot of money

[celest bay]

patch incoming? or they can fix it without patch?

[north summit]

they said they fixed "player lag" but definitely did not

[short marsh]

you obviously know nothing of what you're talking about. this conversation is getting boring

[inland hawk]

The game keeps crashing and won't log in WTF

[narrow blade]

disconnected, cant reconnect

hell yeah

[marble pond]

ESP is hard to detect tbf, there's no injection or anything

[hybrid jolt]

When you say that, you are making that statement based on what? On what someone random said in this discord chat or what exactly?
have you encountered them yourself? Have you seen a clip from OCE streamer or player spectating or encountering that this wipe ?

[harsh ermine]

Why did copper ore shoot up in price?

[amber spindle]

Statistically i would have an anecdote cause i play too much

[hybrid jolt]

i'm pretty sure I know enough

[marble pond]

Based on the 3+ names of people being banned from my reports on a daily basis.

[amber spindle]

Rings

[bleak coyote]

used to craft unique rings and neck stuffs

[short marsh]

as a cheater, you obviously dont. lmfao

[open swan]

crafting ingredient for unique rings

[harsh ermine]

Unique jewelry craft just came out?

[amber spindle]

Im crying

[alpine stump]

mining copper and killing dreadspines is better money making than getting fulgor atm

crazy

[bleak coyote]

yeh. I hope you stocked up on unique essence Price going brrrrt

[amber spindle]

Games been shit ever since they got banned from steam

[harsh ermine]

Gg

[hybrid jolt]

I'm not saying they were not cheating, I'm saying the rage hacks are non existent or get detected instantly - stuff like extended range on weapons

[marble pond]

Yeah idk about that but if their anticheat can detect range hacks, it should be able to detect players moving at a speed that doesn't match their move speed stat which it clearly doesn't. I'm talking like 1 in 3 games there's an obvious speed hacker, no doubt there's more that are more subtle about it.

[unique willow]

how long is it gonna take for the gamne to come bnack up

still stuck in reconnecting

[north summit]

Dam bro my fanart got removed and they didnt even tell me why

[amber spindle]

Shareholder: sdf i see youve created a community that really just defends the game so hard even when theyre wrong its quite impressive
Sdf: yes it took a while but ive tricked them into thinking that me “stepping down” fixed the game
Shareholder: we will pay you an extra billion dollars for ur game

[cedar shard]

no cosmetic quests yet

:(

[celest bay]

"The match is currently in progress. Please wait while we reconnect." for 20 mins

[languid egret]

yes. this game is so good

[oblique radish]

yeah same, servers down or smth

[hybrid jolt]

fascinating how you encounter speed hacker every third game, i must be blind to not see them i guess

[narrow blade]

downtime please we need a server fix LOL

[amber spindle]

Some1 ddosing cause the bard changes

[north summit]

brah half the fanart section is ms paint squiggles and screenshots from in game, i made a funny little edit and it gets insta removed, like what

[marble pond]

Do you play OCE?

[north summit]

it wasnt a video

[spiral owl]

I mean, no player=no player lagg right?

[marble pond]

Or maybe you just don't look into it. When I see something suspicious I look at their gear/move speed stat and can see they're moving faster than their move speed would allow, I report, next day they're banned. But they're always temp bans, so no doubt a lot of them just rotate between accounts

[hybrid jolt]

Cheaters are not tied to specific server, moreover, they would prefer to play on other servers by that logic, to decrease odds of facing similar cheaters

[short marsh]

yeah, how dare they nerf my bard.

[foggy geyser]

lol server down thought i was gettingn fkin ddosed

[north summit]

sorry funny little photo i put together, no profanity or anything crazy but it got removed like 10 minutes after

[unique willow]

how long is it gonna take for the gamne to come bnack up
still stuck in reconnecting

[marble pond]

Lots of Chinese gold farmers use OCE server because the population is a lot lower, so yes the amount of cheaters definitely varies between regions.

[amber spindle]

Hack me in 300 billion fulgors

[lost plover]

If its a clip the bot will auto remove. Put it in the content or clips channel

[north summit]

was not a VIDEO SIR

[lost plover]

Rip i got nothing then.

[north summit]

lemme dm it to u and maybe u can let me know
im genuinely curious

[short marsh]

after wipe. no point now.

[lost plover]

Sounds good. Ill check it out

[marble pond]

Not sure if you're intentionally being disingenuous or just majorly coping. If you don't think there's a cheating problem in this game idk what to tell you. Play OCE for a day and pay attention. Not a coincidence that every day multiple players are getting bans.

[short marsh]

legendary accounts are cheap. cheats are already cheap. they be making they money back and some before they ever get banned. IM dont really care lol

[north summit]

oh yea we are gaming

@obtuse horizon its in there now

[lost plover]

They definitely care. Please don't spread misinformation

[marble pond]

They only get temp bans too, so they just have multiple accounts in rotation

[short marsh]

well... temp bans are invistigation period.

[lost plover]

To my knowledge Cheats are a perma ban

Temp ban for investigation perma if confirmed

[marble pond]

Nah they do season bans for the most part

[short marsh]

how the "temp ban" works and invistigation for 3 days, so lets say after 3 days you get your account back. its still going to be manually reviewed. and then if cheating is always a perm to as mr. discord saint said

[north summit]

dam u still cant see it in there now?

[hybrid jolt]

It's their coping mechanism. That's fine. You know, people sleep better when they convince themselves that majority of enemies they did encounter and lost fight to - are cheaters. How possibly they could have lost that fight otherwise

[short marsh]

that sounds like you

[lost plover]

I'm just telling you what we've been told the process is.

You don't have to believe it

But that is what it is

[short marsh]

i know how the proccess works

[lost plover]

#dnd-fan-art message

[hybrid jolt]

That's the opposite. I don't even think i've reported anyone this season, because unless i encounter obvious rage hacker like one using range extention, i'm gona give them benefit of doubt

[lost plover]

Also nice Server tag

[gaunt smelt]

I have to say, you and @hybrid jolt are both correct, each part you two mentioned are true

[short marsh]

-.- I naturally dislike discord mods... but you get an exception.

[short marsh]

lots of chinese teamers are on west servers too. like a lot lol

[lost plover]

Most people do. We make mistakes and some power trip but most of us do our best here

Did you see Maul this week?

[gaunt smelt]

Yes, bcz they know it, and they also don't want to compete with other cheaters

[short marsh]

i'll be seeing it next week, been super busy with work lol. im pretty hyped for it. also even more hyped for the Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic: Fate game that was announced at the game awards.

[lost plover]

Dude same. I still play swtor so its pretty fire to get that following kotor

[hybrid jolt]

servers are cooked

[celest bay]

still not working?

[short marsh]

swtor is soo goood. i wish more people played it like they use too, now all the vets just log in to do dailys and a few others and log off lol

[hybrid jolt]

I'm stuck on endless reconnecting loop

[limpid lion]

are boss piles removed from s2r?

[granite hull]

sick game randomly disconnects me from server mid boss fight in a bis kit

[hybrid jolt]

like 20 minutes already

[granite hull]

gj ironmace!

[lost plover]

Yeah. I get a few people who wanna try it every couple of months otherwise its just the oldies still running it. I go through phases of hard grind and daily log in

[gaunt oracle]

i got in, but every time I try to place a trap the outline disappears. I have to spam 3+4+LMB to get any traps out

W patch. the only fun thing I had to do in s2r was just nerfed lol

[lost plover]

That bug is back? Rip it was there at begining of the season

[limpid lion]

That happened to me before, it fixed for me when I open inventory

[gaunt oracle]

guess I just dont interact with that game mode anymore... lolo

back to PVE + empty lobby HRs

[lime cave]

same here. guess we wont be able to play this game anymore😱

[short marsh]

this happens to me n sometimes just pressing tab to go in inv and back out works. does this to me for campfires tooo

[halcyon lynx]

You're absolutely insane for removing bosses from Squire to Riches. My favorite game mode ruined for nothing

[unkempt heron]

Just stopped in to say i have believed in this game since i first heard about it i remember when it got taken off steam and how we had to download it afterwards a few times and man was it fun but the second it came out i bought 8 copies and got so many people hooked on this game and the amount of progress this game has made since has been absolutely incredible to see. No Man's Sky Comeback or We Happy Few Philosophical Levels of Legendary for DAD. Held the Line Well all Love to see it

[gaunt oracle]

you met your word count, now just sprinkle in some punctuation and your essay will be finished

[unkempt heron]

i don't have time for punctuation

i have dungeons to grind

[sick egret]

anyone know the craft for new rings?

[bleak coyote]

same as legend, just with 7+3 instead of 5+1. (and unique essence)
so 1 uniq essence + 7 lifeleaf + 3 gold for a dex ring. 2 unique + 7 copper + 3 obsidian for peace, etc

[sick egret]

thanks dont have the craft unlocked

[unique willow]

any news when the servers getting fixed? so we can join

[topaz kindle]

is there a quest to get loot back from goblin or did i mishear this streamer

[gaunt oracle]

more goblin affinity = more chance for stuff to come back
more quests = more goblin affinity

[topaz kindle]

oh snap

highest give u all ur stuff back even in hr?

[ionic fox]

almost

about 80%

[topaz kindle]

still pretty good

[icy forge]

can u find uniques / artifacts in squire to riches now?

[short marsh]

facts.

[full pier]

help im stoopid, is bard changes nerf or buff?

[short marsh]

NERF 🙁

[full pier]

🙁

[short marsh]

9% for pdr is ridiculous change. bard shriek a fighter, we had a chance. NOW, it does absolutely nothing.

[granite hull]

much needed nerf tbh

[little robin]

Yes, it is up to artifact rewards

[short marsh]

agree to disagree, the beer nerf was needed for sure. but shriek not so much so. we aint fighting anything that aint a rogue/ranger or anything in cloth. yet barb can do literally everything.

can heal, have ms, mdr, more health upon health, slow you, reduce you pdr, grapple you to you. Among all the other broken classes too. I think the shriek was my breaking point.

[unique willow]

When will the game be back up Im still stuck in the reconnecting loop

[tidal wyvern]

its just piles bruh

[tepid narwhal]

where is the wizard nerf 🙂

[sacred meadow]

Had the bug earlier but fine now

[unique willow]

mines still not working whattdo i do

[brittle oasis]

@hexed adder When will obsidian gear be released?

[lost plover]

It already is

[brittle oasis]

Rly? Not only weapons I mean

[little robin]

Indeed, artifacts from piles in the key rooms.

[unkempt shoal]

How is anyone fighting for bard being weak now lol

[alpine stump]

rollback?

[strange sage]

what

[bleak coyote]

https://i.gyazo.com/5935b97787b2a5e1d75cbb06ba33f4f8.png

[fleet cape]

What a nothing-burger ass patch, 2 hours downtime for that? 😂😂😂

[gaunt oracle]

can confirm, uniques are in s2r. wtf?

[strange sage]

lol

[alpine stump]

is it safe to queue up now

[lost plover]

Yeah its all in the game i believe

[ashen rose]

What drops mysterious potion

[gaunt oracle]

pulled 2 unique treasures out of skull key and easy extracted solo. never saw a player but i did see 2 on killfeed. free artis I guess

[alpine stump]

dreadspine

1 inferno run is guaranteed 100k gold

[sudden hatch]

2 hours downtime for bard gutting

[strange sage]

yep

bard didnt even need gutted

[sudden hatch]

bard was NOT the problem

if you got ur shit kicked in by a bard there are at least 3 other classes that would have donethe same or better

[strange sage]

i could understand a pve nerf, but not complete removal of shriek working on pve, and also bard just bad for pvp too now

[sudden hatch]

shriek not working on pve is REALLY fuckin stinky

[strange sage]

wow 9% armor penetration as a debuff that takes like a second to pop

rogue gets almost 40% for free in squire

[sudden hatch]

pve is already annoying just let me fight it quicker

[sudden hatch]

rogues are little butts i dont care for them until rework

[strange sage]

wont be rework

devs too dumb to do that

itll be some more overtuned perks and skills

[sudden hatch]

well whatever they did for fighter n barb but rogue

inshallah there will be a skill that lets you pop pw stacks for like 30 true

[gaunt forum]

tbh I dont get why they just dont make 2 different/familiar effects for abilities/perks ... like you say for example Rogue Weakpoint -%armor for PvP / -Flat vs Monsters. etc etc

[hybrid sequoia]

Because it would make sense, we can't have that in game.

Agreed tho that plenty more perks should apply to PvE as well instead of being PvP exclusive and penetration perks are prime offenders

[drifting scaffold]

no that’s not a good call

[alpine stump]

they should turn deathbloom passive into a perk

[drifting scaffold]

doubling the amount of effort someone has to put in to understand their ability

[hybrid sequoia]

also, bard shriek is now PvP exclusive, right? Since mobs have no PDR at all

[hybrid sequoia]

they should turn rogue into past tense

[gaunt forum]

yea

[static lava]

How do you guys go back to teamchat after whispering somebody XD

[drifting scaffold]

so then the answer is to fix mob resistances, not fork all abilities to have pve and PvP effects lol

[drifting scaffold]

just hit enter twice I think

[bleak coyote]

press enter on a empty chat

[static lava]

Thank you! Haha

[unique willow]

elite name and pfp

[trim meadow]

is arena ssf rn and can u bring in uniques ?

[bleak coyote]

no no

[gaunt oracle]

welp, s2r is saved... the removal of bosses just means less distraction from ungabunga. looting uniques in inferno is nice. W patch

[torpid vigil]

What unique accessories got added

Can't check cuz I got work soon

[tidal wyvern]

ALL

[gaunt oracle]

feels like playtests as a solo rat... rattin around, counting killfeed names, waiting for an opportunity to sneak to a red

[polar phoenix]

Rip bards the only good thing they had going gets taken from them

[vale anvil]

I mean, at least bard dosnt feel mandatory anymore if farming bosses

I take that as a net positive, plus they got a buff in PvP

[torpid vigil]

How noticeable is the shriek nerf for bossing

[strange sage]

i liked kill warlord for my timmy random teamates ):

[strange sage]

very

i could curse skip lich before, cant now

[torpid vigil]

Wyvern farmers in shambles

[icy plover]

Bard is getting wrecked this wipe

[violet sand]

what is the wipe date?

[lapis birch]

28

[hearty prairie]

please bring back the other maps in S2R as soon as possible i'm sick of playing only ruins 🙁

[halcyon lynx]

The patch was targeted against me personally

[trim plank]

Where is this confirmed?

[granite lark]

How about that rogue and ranger re work

[gaunt oracle]

i found uniques in inferno

[vestal kiln]

🐟🪝?

[brazen pike]

if a bard manages to get a shreik off on a fighter that is

[icy plover]

Can’t wait for that

[trim plank]

Has anyone confirmed Artifacts in S2R now?

[brazen pike]

bard really wasnt that broken of a class

[icy plover]

Nah I think it was for bossing tho

[brazen pike]

it was only broken for pve

[icy plover]

So is warlock tho

For bossing its ez mode

[brazen pike]

it upsets me that they removed the - additional armor thing

bard bossing was like the central theme of the character

quick fight quick extract quick escape

[icy plover]

Yeah for solo , bard feels bad rn

[brazen pike]

clearing mobs is gonna be a hellscape now

[icy plover]

Might as well play warlock

Hellfire spam

And tm

Bard was so clutch against wyvern

[brazen pike]

realistically though not a terrible change I will admit

im glad it had a pvp buff

[icy plover]

Probably still can take wyvern down fast

[brazen pike]

just wish it went both ways

where pve would get the armor rating thing instead of %

[icy plover]

Yeah bard needs some love with abilities, need more ways to play it. Just feels like guitar hero simulator now

[brave haven]

to craft unique ring and neck, do you need max Goldsmith ?

[icy plover]

I’m gonna check, I’m almost max

But not quite

[brave haven]

same Mysterious Potion too expensive 🙁

[tough palm]

Chat how much is unique essence?

[icy plover]

Yeah it’s crazy

[brave haven]

It has to be max level for goldsmith i dont see how otherwise... Shame

[bleak coyote]

2.25k a pop

[tough palm]

Its gonna go up

[bleak coyote]

nah. It wont go up. To expensive to craft as it is. People will try a couple and stop using it.

[unique swan]

hi guys whats crafting cost for Unique necklace of peace ? could u show me a screen pls per dm or here

[tough palm]

Y get a chance to get does 12 magic healing rings tho

They gonna be a mil

[bleak coyote]

and you'll spend 10k for every try. It adds up. Unless you got half a million to burn, it's not worth it

[chilly raven]

any fix for "Failed to connect to the server" connectivity issue?

[tough palm]

How much do y even need to craft one ring?

[unique swan]

how much gold for one Unique Craft ?

[bleak coyote]

3

[tough palm]

And the rest of the shit? Y just need essence?

[bleak coyote]

no, not just essence. But the recipes are different for every piece of jewelry, obviously.

[broken ivy]

Can someone tell me when arena opens

[bleak coyote]

strength ring is 1 unique essence + 7 copper + 3 gold

[tough palm]

Ok thats expensive

[graceful quiver]

Thursday nights for me in cst time zone at 7pm

[tough palm]

Imagine resolve and wisdom rings

[unique swan]

can u tell me neck of peace uniq items needed ?

[bleak coyote]

neck piece is 2 unique + 7 copper + 3 obsidian

[unique swan]

tyty

[tough palm]

Still think its worth to craft a few ones

[unique swan]

time to gamble 100x crafts for a funny video xD

[tough palm]

Y can get lucky

[bleak coyote]

Let me know when that luck hits
https://i.gyazo.com/05c35499e8685afbee8edf34be5ccc36.png

[tough palm]

I thing 12 healing or phys bonus will sell for violas

[unique swan]

do 50x craft

[bleak coyote]

nah. I aint made of money. Copper is expensive yo. I tried a few and sold of the rest of my unique essence. I got like 1 usable ring out of 10 essence

[unique swan]

wtb Debuff duration neck of peace atleast now i cna finish my Zirkzy build

[tough palm]

With that?

[unique swan]

before there was none in market or trade and very hard to get

people wanted 1 DB+ for it

[little robin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1240740423731773510/1491734638392119407/image.png?ex=69d8c5a4&is=69d77424&hm=cb3616550979b4752fd9f65bd430cd0f5290442bceb7a961b48538b8ff874a57&

I took this

[tough palm]

Wait what

Artifact rewards? How

[icy plover]

from bosses

[unique swan]

Boss drop chance

[little robin]

There are no bosses, so you would have to pull one from the key room pile

[tough palm]

Thats crazy

[bleak coyote]

they removed bosses. Key piles only

[unique swan]

I mena wipe is in roughly 3 weeksy ofc they buff a little

[lapis birch]

That's supposed to be permanent tho

[unique swan]

even tho I think the chance for droppin it is hella low xD

[lapis birch]

I think they will buff loot even more later on

[icy plover]

S2R is a lot of fun, kinda feels like longer ttk arena

[tough palm]

I never got anything from pile in hr

Even

[unique swan]

its fun untiol some broken squire class comps xD

[icy plover]

same

[icy plover]

yeah fighter wiz barb is insane

[little robin]

Only thing I don’t like about s2r is the duplicate classes, but it makes sense because it wouldn’t be fair for solo queue players.

Having to wait longer queue time because your class is more popular isn’t really nice

[unique swan]

ye

time to go triple barb

[icy plover]

triple barb and one runs war cry yeesh

[little robin]

The time is still very limited, combined with the players and zone closing in makes for some really chaotic, but potentially very rewarding games

It has the essence of some of the early playtests

[rain silo]

where do i use the mystical gem? found it in normal goblin caves but everything i look up says it is only available in high roller

is it a bug that it appears in normal?

[icy plover]

u can use it in norms on the big stone door

circle door

[rain silo]

is theire someone that has this info that isnt completely outdated? its getting tiring to look in circles because of how many times things change

[little robin]

It’s used in this room.

[rain silo]

so i can get the gem with out that room being on the map? because that was not on the spawn

[little robin]

Previously, the mystical gem and all other keys could be taken out of the dungeon. They used to only be used for Highroller for the potential chance to get artifacts.

[little robin]

Yea it is possible to get the gem without it being in the map, however this room is always guaranteed to spawn on the first level of goblin caves.

There is always a guaranteed key room spawn in every level.

[icy plover]

yea the room is always there

[rain silo]

even on pve?

[little robin]

Yes, even PvE

[icy plover]

ye

[trim plank]

My 🐐 Ty

[little robin]

The rewards vary

[drifting scaffold]

plz stop wrecking cutlass 😭

[shrewd pollen]

Blame the longsword

[drifting scaffold]

collateral dmg too high

anyone know if they fixed the action speed on counter attack?

[shrewd pollen]

they did add some extra action speed on the second animation of the LS parry

also did they remove random map gen agian?

[bleak coyote]

only for top layer of castle

[shrewd pollen]

i see thx

[cursive radish]

whens next wipe?

[dense aurora]

Were quest rewards announced?

[sudden hatch]

end april

[fickle shadow]

arenas going to be legendarys today?

[bleak coyote]

if you think today is the last week of the season then yes.

[fickle shadow]

type shit

[lime shale]

Do I do pvp in ruins or learn other maps in pve first

I know ruins and crypts pretty well

[vale anvil]

Why does dark season always have to line-up with PoE 2 leagues

[vale anvil]

Most people play ruins and crypts for PvP

[lapis birch]

28

[subtle rose]

has anyone found a key in s2r yet?

[lime shale]

So no?

[vale anvil]

What I’m trying to say is that some people exclusively play crypts only as their main way to play.

So learning other maps is mainly for the PvE not PvP in them

[lime shale]

Idk anything bout pvp tbh
Just seen some ranger build in hr on youtube

[lime shale]

Ok

Apparently the other maps all randomize every game right

[vale anvil]

Ice caves and goblin, not water map

Crypts randomizes, and ruins used to but for some reason doesn’t this season

I don’t think they ever explained why…

[lime shale]

Crypt looks similar to me every time i go red
I dont think it matters that much tbh

Is the water map the pirate one

[vale anvil]

If anything, you could try out the squires to riches mode

If you want to learn PvP

[bleak coyote]

pretty sure it has to do with those empty useless modules. They haven't reconfigured their randomizer to use those yet. (and not put 5 of them together)

[vale anvil]

Yeah. The one where you can swim

[molten iris]

wow very big update

[vale anvil]

Yeah, but I thought they would have fixed that this season. The whole point of empty modules was to fill the 7x7

[lime shale]

Might learn that map and goblin caves

They seem to have the best loot

[vale anvil]

For sure, many people farm water map. But you get much better stuff in normal and even high roller mode on those maps.

So if you actually wanna farm, it’s better to play normal I’d say

[lime shale]

I’m going for like

Whatever can let me play hr well

I wanna learn pvp so next season after wipe I can play hr and make gold

I’m going through the classes and maps rn

[placid stratus]

what do they mean by: boss rooms remain, but bosses have been removed?

[bleak coyote]

empty spectral basement, empty ghostking room.
well, not fully empty. I'm sure the chests and piles are still down there. But no boss = no open door 😄

[placid stratus]

oh in the battle modes right? i see now

[bleak coyote]

yes, just for squire to riches

[molten iris]

playing hr with 30% chance to face a hacker 40% to landmine rogue and 30% of people teaming. Most of them are played 2000+hr and jobless grind this game 10hours a day is nice experience

[vale anvil]

Yeah, then I think squire to riches is your best bet. Although it’s more like a battle royale

[lime shale]

Whats squire to riches

Is it like arena?

[bleak coyote]

yes and no.
it's like normals (but since today, with a chance of up to artifact level items), but on a random normal map (except castle, that one is the old 5x5 size) and you cannot take in any gear better than white. And there are no blue portals, only red near the end.

it's a sweat fest, with just looted stuff. Basically. The only thing you bring in other than squire are some bandies and stuff

[lime shale]

That sounds tuff

[bleak coyote]

just give it a go, nothing to lose

[lime shale]

So it just comes down to skill and who loots better weapons?

[subtle rose]

except his sanity muwahahaha!

lol nah

[bleak coyote]

DaD player still have that?

[subtle rose]

good point

[leaden birch]

Can you get artifact from squire to riches now?

[bleak coyote]

yeh. From the key room piles

[timber orbit]

when did that change?

[bleak coyote]

4 hours ago

[timber orbit]

awesome sauce

[crystal gorge]

how are you supposed to get out of blindfall pit 😭

oop i found it

[icy pebble]

does pdr reduction from shriek have any effect now on pve at all ?

[crystal gorge]

i would think so, though not nearly as much

most you are setting from -22% to -27% i think

[sudden hatch]

i dont think it does... the whole thing why shriek worked on pve and like. weakpoint attack didnt was because it was a flat pdr reduction instead of percent

[low atlas]

right like you can reduce a monsters armor value below 0 but not pdr %?

[static zodiac]

I’m trying to figure this out internally, just how bad is the weapon guard change?

Cause now with a longsword per example your getting like what 10as for it just existing?

[static zodiac]

This is along with with sword mastery of course

[drifting scaffold]

wait I read the patch note as they added action speed to the parry buff that gives damage bonus, is it just + AS always with the perk on?

[low atlas]

• AS is after successful block with weapon guard

[drifting scaffold]

thank you

[low atlas]

just checked the perk 😄

[drifting scaffold]

waging in a cubicle on patch day 😔

[icy plover]

recovering from shoulder surgery i cant use my mouse sadly

trying controller but its tough

[drifting scaffold]

that is rough

[eager sand]

Whats the recipe for unique jewelry

[bleak coyote]

same as legend, just with 7+3

[stoic spindle]

how do you build perma dark reflect build, ive got 42% buff and 60% debuff and dark reflect is still really slow?

[low atlas]

You need CDR nowadays too

resourcefulness/cdr rolls

[eager current]

Yo chat is there a wipe soon bc I wanna play again but don’t wanna waste my time if it’s wiping soon

[remote nymph]

so i heard this game sucks now

[lusty sundial]

Wipes scheduled for end of the month!

[fresh flare]

Why are people clown emoji ?? On the announcement

Paul is the goat

Undisputed goat

[misty ridge]

i miss my longsword

[low atlas]

people just put clown because they think its funny even when patch is fine

[burnt ravine]

so did they nerf or buff bard

[bleak coyote]

nerf pve buff pvp

[eager current]

Thank you king

[viscid holly]

What's with the healing cleric stray? Another dumb arena change huh...

Even tho healing druid is legit them but better

[drifting scaffold]

burst healing from cleric was kinda strong with the amount of healing you can stack

[limpid lion]

who thought it's a good idea to remove bosses from s2r? what riches are there if you can't do bosses

[low atlas]

Like are the piles just there... for free?

or are the rooms locked lmao

[limpid lion]

not there you can't open the doors

[low atlas]

I dont even know lmao

i figured the point to changes was to try and kill all in game so you could boss and get out with the only portals that spawn

kinda like the normal game how you have to kill all the rats before you can boss

[proven ruin]

I told you on your other comment man. It’s CDR and debuff duration

[viscid holly]

Druid healing isnt?? I realized just how broken it was earlier because my friend didn't even build an insane kit just budget healing. By simply standing next to him, im ticking 2x for 4 hp like a curse lock for just being in his presence....

How is cleric getting nerfed when druid is that op

[stoic spindle]

Yeah i did see thanks brother! I always message in both ❤️ Changing the kit now

[viscid holly]

Giving wizard curse lock healing is disgusting

[misty lichen]

just talked to the higher ups at iron mace. basically what the team is planning to do is remove bards drum, then they said that they are planning on removing clerics healing because it’s way to strong. i’ll keep you all updated

[molten plume]

thank god W Paul

[drifting scaffold]

burst healing vs healing over time? time isn’t really a free resource

[viscid holly]

Its pre applied and half the healing you cant miss

[molten plume]

so right they need to nerf both

[viscid holly]

Meanwhile your right the burst healing on cleric is stronger but... you can miss, you can heal enemies, there's plenty of ways it goes awful for cleric

Its honestly hard to fk up druid healing

You apply b4 the fight half the time

Even the giant aoe heal on druid is more no skill

You dont have to channel it you just place it down

On cleric I have to channel it, what if right when I start my channel im booped by a fireball, shot by forceful shot anything to cancel it Gg

Druid puts down mending grove and he doesnt give af whats happening its down now

[drifting scaffold]

you’re not channeling lesser heal or holy light. and while you’re right that you could miss, you don’t wanna balance the strength of the heal around the skill of the player right?

[fiery aspen]

Not to be semantical but I think you mean casting, not channeling. Channeling is filling the bar I thought

[flat musk]

Like how unplayable and unenjoyable are solos i dont get it they legit have to remove rogues from solo or completely rework this shit class its so boring to play everytime i just die to landmines nothing else

[lapis birch]

But you can still drop keys and drop artifacts from piles

[fiery aspen]

I think druid should get nerfed w/heals too tbf. You can't make the "time is a resource" arguement when they can heal someone for like 30-40hp/s

[viscid holly]

skill shot heals should heal more then druid because druid is no skill healing

no skill healing should ALWAYS be significantly weaker then high skill healing for obvious reasons...

because i don't have to think to heal for 2k in a fight on druid

but i have to a god tier aim and positioning on cleric to heal 1k in a fight

[flat musk]

also i feel like most ppl start cheating because they die to rogues xd

[viscid holly]

huuuuuuuuuuuh?

[drifting scaffold]

how can they heal someone for 30 health per second? holy exaggeration lol

[viscid holly]

tell me you haven't played with a healing druid without telling me you've never played with a healing druid

[drifting scaffold]

they already do heal more AND it’s instant. they’re both similar in output but with clear tradeoffs

[viscid holly]

as a cleric player in arena

[drifting scaffold]

I’ve played with it on my team? And it’s borderline worthless lmfao baby sitting my healer is not fun

[viscid holly]

i am actively beaten in healing per match by druids

they can easily heal for 1,000 more then me

and my kit is backline focused

healing focused

[drifting scaffold]

yeah youre still confusing the class’s heals for the way the fight goes

if a team with a Druid healer can successfully protect them and position, disengage, peel for them? They’re gonna go crazy with healing and win the match

[viscid holly]

if a barbarian gets on me as a cleric im most likely dead

[winter bluff]

Good morning brothers an sisters God loving

[drifting scaffold]

uhh yeah?

[viscid holly]

if a barbarian gets on me on druid, i dream walk to my front liner and if he wins while getting healed while IM IN FKN DREAM WALK BTW BECAUSE I DON"T HAVE TO CAST SPELLS YOUR HEALING JUST BECAUSE I EXIST LOL???

im just fine, not dead at all, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAND your being healed currently while im unable to die

[drifting scaffold]

bud I think ur just getting diffed lmfao

[viscid holly]

seems balanced to me

are you like hard stuck 1.5k telling me im getting diffed?

have you never played against people with a brain b4?

[subtle rose]

Has anyone found a skull/gold key in s2r?

[drifting scaffold]

bro you’re complaining about dreamwalk

take like 20% off it

[viscid holly]

how is a healer having a get out of jail free card while also having more healing that takes no skill then the skill check healer not OP?

[drifting scaffold]

because they’re vulnerable in other ways

[lapis peak]

I pray to paul for named arena and we don't lose them

[drifting scaffold]

it’s rly not that hard to figure out

u don’t see Druids hot swapping mid round to melee

[viscid holly]

culverable to what LMFAO a fireball to the floor?

if there is a wizard on the other team

thats... like literally it

everything else i just skitter behind my back line and im safe

[drifting scaffold]

what? wizard is one of the most popular classes in arena for that reason

constant magic dmg like a turret

[viscid holly]

alright lets theory craft as a wizard player playing against a cleric vs druid

[drifting scaffold]

no

[viscid holly]

cleric can miss and i can burst someone down with heal cut

[drifting scaffold]

I’m not larping w u bro sry

[lapis peak]

lets kiss and make out

[limpid lion]

You can drop artifact in s2r? I thought the loot is like in normals

[drifting scaffold]

“let’s theorycraft” in this chat just means “I’m gonna dream up the most insane scenario to support my points”

[viscid holly]

but druid just has to pre buff them and he doesn't even have to show his body the guy pre, buffed btw. can just walk at me for 15+ seconds while being healed for like 15 PER SECOND after healing cuts the ENTIRE TIME HES WALKING AT ME then ever 15 seconds the druid has to peek out to cast it 1 more time on him then hide

[timber orbit]

i hope everybody’s having a great day!

[viscid holly]

the dyno bot isn't very intelligent

[icy plover]

[burnt citrus]

what is headshot bonus cap?

[lapis peak]

yeah it says loot up to artifact in the menu

[timber orbit]

50% with or without perks

[timber orbit]

it just got buffed

[viscid holly]

i mean even if i have your entire team low just think about the difference between mending grove and sanc. you try to sanc ill just cancel it with fireball your team is cooked, you cast mending grove and i mean.... i can keep hitting you with fireballs but your whole team is healing ALOT

[burnt citrus]

thank you

[timber orbit]

np! happy headshotting!

[viscid holly]

you either have to have never played the game before or your just awful at the game to not grasp what im saying

[timid current]

is the cosmetic quest out?

[viscid holly]

everything ive said isn't an unrealistic or super dreamed up situation

[timber orbit]

i don’t believe so

[viscid holly]

thats just kinda a standard round of arena vs these classes

[timber orbit]

Clerics usually don’t miss their heals in arena from my experience but im not gonna pretend like lifebloom Druid isn’t nuts in bis gear

both very stronk

[lapis peak]

druid + a demon is my only big problem

[timber orbit]

Cleric scaling nerf was kind of inevitable because they already double dip hard on magic scaling bonus. i was fully self healing with two lesser heals in like three seconds

[lapis peak]

mainly in arena tho

[noble harbor]

How’re people feeling about this game nowadays

[timber orbit]

Cleric benefits offensively from magic power a LOT more than Druid does

[viscid holly]

its better alot better, but its still not even as good as pre patch 6.9

[timber orbit]

very fun to play, quests were a little inundating this wipe and i lost interest in them but the balance is in a better place than it has been the past year

[viscid holly]

so if you liked b4 patch 6.9 alot its still prob not worth coming back yet

[timber orbit]

are you talking hotfix 69 or season 6.9

[noble harbor]

Yeah that’s what I’m confused about

[timber orbit]

because imho season 6 dark and darker was dreadful for me

[noble harbor]

Oh wait I remember hotfix 69 now

It’s def that

[timber orbit]

69 was just one week of coal

[viscid holly]

yea people wanna act like that game is good again but

[timber orbit]

before and after was all the same, just an indicator that things were stagnating slowly

[viscid holly]

we had 10-15k in and out of dungeon before they wiped random modifiers in hotfix 69

we have like 3k in and out of dungeon now, about 5k or more start of wipe

[noble harbor]

Okay so it’s stayed about the same for the last couple months

[timber orbit]

we were around 10k start of wipe, i don’t remember what season hotfix 69 occurred during but seasons 5 and 6 were both well below 5k players by the end

[viscid holly]

yea if your a die hard dark and darker player its alright

but game is still SOOO much better back then

[lapis peak]

yeah they finally locked in this wipe been pretty consistent W's with the patches

[reef hawk]

Do high roller key room hoards drop gold coin chests?

[noble harbor]

This is honestly the most positive conversation about dark and darker I’ve ever seen even pre 69 so id say this is a good sign

[lapis peak]

I'm fairly sure any highroller hoard has a chance

[lapis peak]

They nerfed druid start of this wipe to have no instant transform honestly that was the beginning to healing

[hollow vector]

It's a great game but development has been this odd dance of one step forward, two steps to the side, flip backwards and then some more steps in random direction.

Generally it's moving forward and I'm hyped for every new season but at any point there can land a change that'll completely mess things up.

[alpine stump]

go to inferno quickkk

[torpid vigil]

Sooooo what are the new crafted uniques

[alpine stump]

rings

[torpid vigil]

I bet they cost an arm and a leg to craft right lol

[alpine stump]

5-7k

[torpid vigil]

Sheeeeit

What's needed to craft them holy cow

[alpine stump]

also if u havent done goldsmith yet

the mysteriou potions jumped from 10k to 50k

[torpid vigil]

Top 10 things I'm never doing lol

[viscid holly]

i think next season they should just fully remove arena's and gem socketing from the game entirely.

[torpid vigil]

[viscid holly]

the game would be infinitely better without these 2 things, it MASSIVELY destroys the market aspect of the game while also forcing most of your "gameplay loop" focusing on making my "arena kit"

Zzzzzzzzzz boooooooooooooring

[alpine stump]

same, im just selling these unique arcane essences, they are like 3k each atm i think

[trim pumice]

I am at work shiddin my stomach is so torn up to shreds when does arenas open?

[viscid holly]

nothing is more boring then arena i can't cap arena is only healthy for people not good enough at the game to gear up in the dungeon

if we just forced those same players to actually you know... PLAY THE GAME i assure you the game would have higher population

[alpine stump]

lol

[trim pumice]

They would quit (coming from someone who runs HR all night every night but definitely plays arenas only during weekend)

Why do u think the players drop after arena close

They just would simply quit

[honest garnet]

They have to make the dungeon more engaging, I’ve been playing. For 3 years and the only fun in the dungeon anymore is PvP, which there is Barely any of. Everyone just rats, at least in arena I can get a good fight without having to spend 8 minutes in between opening doors and clearing the same 7 mobs I have for years

[viscid holly]

if it was never an option to begin with you wouldn't have the luxury of quitting when you can't run your gear without losing it. you either play the game like the rest of us or you quit.

[hollow vector]

"Force players" yeah good luck. If game doesn't seem fun in the way people are forced to play... Then they just don't.

[slate hawk]

Have you tried the newly improved S2R? It's where a lot of the PvP happens, I feel like.

[viscid holly]

i PROMISE this will bring ALOT more players back then it will have players leave lol... no one cares about arena and you being good at arena isn't a flex its just you saying yea i play this mode ALOT

being good in the dungeon is infinitely harder vs being good in arena

[trim pumice]

Tjat’s like when sdf was like “oh solos is most popular, we need more ppl on trios we need to delete solos”

[honest garnet]

But I can’t play what kits I want too I’m limited to base kit it’s boring

[trim pumice]

And then the game went from 10k to 3k

[hollow vector]

I don't even play arena. I'm just pointing out you can't "force" people to do stuff.

[alpine stump]

bro is sdf's alt account

[viscid holly]

yea but the difference is having solos as a game mode in the game doesn't obliterate the gameplay loop and objectives in the game

[trim pumice]

Neither does… arenas ?

[viscid holly]

where having arena and gem socketing DOES destroy gear prices picking up 3 natural good 3 lined items could be 20-30k but with gem socketing its like 4k-5k

[trim pumice]

How would deleting arenas make people come BACK to the game 😭

[viscid holly]

it also forces you again to collect bis purple gear because im not allowed to use legendary? which is just whaaa

like why is it like that

[trim pumice]

Or you can… sell the purps… and run the legendary?

[alpine stump]

you can just choose not to collect purple gear and not play arena lol

[trim pumice]

Brain 🧠

[viscid holly]

most people bought this game for the sole purpose of having a PvPvE dungeon crawling extraction game

almost NO ONE bought this game for a 3v3 arena PvP only experience where you occasionally go to the dungeon to farm your 3v3 kit

Snooooooooooooze get that sht outa here bruh

[alpine stump]

do not engage in ragebait

[viscid holly]

if i wanted to farm ego points and mmr, i will play dota 2. thank you.

[slate hawk]

Stand strong against the face of evil, brothers!

[viscid holly]

if i wanna have fun and play a dungeon game i will play dark and darker

[hollow vector]

Welp, this man is completely lost.

[viscid holly]

your right i can, but this doesn't change the fact that when arena's is out the game is basically dead

so as a dungeon only player, my gameplay experience is kinda fked when arena drops

[trim pumice]

Bro thought we would agree w him