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What is my problem? Cannot connect to the game server please close the game????????
From steam and launcher same problem both
black desert and crimson desert arent similar at all
they used black desert to milk money so they could fund this way better game
what is Mon cooking for me
Is that seriously my dud,?!,,,, if that are not isn't similar than who can one be being better than the other and just basic saying black dessert is bad when it an actually good gamer but as they said it's not simile and is basic hole different genres but that's okay if you don't like me anymore and that's not okay. Both gamer are good and that's my final word so it doesn't scare
SCARE SCARE SCARE
Is Dark and Darker getting DDOS'd right now or something?
works for me. but i was lagging last game
that was 4h ago
and?
maybe im not playing anymore or iv done it?
May be you do and did not?
are on the spectre?
my game just crashed. No error message. The game just closed. Lost my bis HR kit. W IM
during EAS8, SDF set game stability as the top priority and personally drove the decisions that built the strong foundation we stand on today
1.0 here we come
sdfill issue
You think crimson desert gonna be worth it? Looks overhyped and $90 crazy
when is wipe again?
It'll be worth it. And its not $90
After poop usually
In Canadian shmeckles it is
Hmm. Interesting. Still worth it! Last game I got was a few months ago or longer, im not getting 60 dollar to 100 dollar games monthly you know. Plus its a big game with alot of content. Reviews come out today, so check some out
patchie
And when the dungeons are dead or theres a trash patch or game just pisses you off, it'll be good to have a fun single player game
Yeah gonna need to see the before you buy youtube video before I commit lol
Pretty sure in a few hours reviews will be out.
Idk when the before you buy will be out
End of April I believe
Why is everyone asking when wipe is when the season only started like a month and a half ago and we don't even have word on what the season rewards will be?
they said in the april
Idk why they hide the rewards. Dont they only show them next season when you get them? Or is it near the end of the wipe?
Because they havent made them yet lol
Lol
*haven't bought them
keep an eye on the asset store 
90$?!
I think its overhyped, but at the same time there is no real competition when it comes to hyped games in the current month…
when is new season?
because sometimes theyre teasers for what will come in the next wipe, other than that idk
Towards end of April.
ok thx
Or mid april. They havent fully decided
is monk planned to be released b4 2040 btw?
i'd like to experience it before im geriatric
They didn't discuss it in the Q&A that im aware of
who could've guessed
too busy adding 5 thousand quest items that in 2 years will get used to craft a helmet that make ale burps silent
Don't give them ideas lol
Ong that’s where we are heading holy shit that’s the realest take I’ve ever seen LMAO
SILENT BURPS
OMEGALOL
HELP
Thats true marathon died already and arc raiders got stale cuz they aren’t pumping updates out, resident evil has like 12hours of content before you start over theres no good games rn
been here since beta ik how these devs roll
Fr almost 4k hours in this game and devs been the leading cause of its downfall
imagine the time they put into making the "stillmend boots" and imagine what they could've done instead
witch atm
They changed the sound rings make when they hit the ground 3 times lol the priorities are just not there
someone wrote a priority list in english and sdf didn't know how to read it and turned it upside down
my personal theory
Honestly bc of that, im thinking about playing warframe again, no matter what ure up to there is plenty of content and options u can do if its for 2 hours or 5 hours straight
RIP the rest of the season. Low ahh player count and 5+ minutes for a game 🙁
if sdf turns the priority list back around i think it'll be fine soon enough
See those games that are “free to play” are all pay to win, if I drop $50 in warframe I just become good
sdf kinda took a soft stepping down did he not??
You gotta be on brazil servers 5 minutes crazy
true, but from what i've gathered he's still gonna be the main guy, most things will likely have to go through him before setting any big plans in motion
kinda curious to see their next project tho
Im hoping more QoL things will start coming faster.
Yea same man it’s brutal sometimes, I’m kinda excited for what sdfs pet project is gonna cook up I hope it’s just dad but even more unhinged
I thought this game was still considered early access, is it full release?
Anyone got advice for a Dwarf fighter?
when will ironmace realize that 90% of their solo playerbase is barbarian and they need to either remove the class or nerf it HARD. Nobody feels inclined to play different classes because barb is busted beyond comprehension. 65 str 65 vig max movespeed off of ONE ability. not to mention legit every barb perk and skill is AMAZING. I have a feeling SDF mains barb because why else would they overtune a single class this hard? 0 counterplay to a barbarian running at you
bruh every single match on lava map just has some rogue or druid glitching on the wall cheesing the boss.. ts is so lame
Oh? Not that i'd ever do it.. but how do you do it?
its annoying, i cant even attempt the boss normal when they are 15 feet up just watching
why tf does a survival bow kill me when i have full pdr and 180 health in 6 shots wtf is thIS im
Yell raciaI sIurs at people you come across it adds intimidation factor
will be arena the wohole season only epic?
Until last week or two usually then its free for all
@gaunt oracle tear 47k
It’s solos that’s why it’s so busted. Dealing with barb in solos is way harder than in a team fight
It’s unfortunate
is the shining pearl used for any quest?
yes goldsmith one
ty
ayo whats the coundown for arena? Im at work rn
Idk, i'm at work too
idk im at work three
arena opens 1 day +5 hr from now
I heard devs are leaving dark and darker to start on a new project, is that true?
My report numbers turned yellow
Very few, it seems like they hired more devs (?). The vast majority of the DaD team is staying with DaD. SDF is shifting to the new project though from what I understand.
My yellow has turned into a report
can you use roses for anything else once you finish the quest line?
nope
is there a questline that gives cosmetic this season?
tavern master, collector, gobo merchant, religion
have they released it yet? cuz i've done them and havent seen the quest pop just asking for my sanity
no, they have not. Should be this week (not a lot left). When arena opens up
wipe hype
what was the minor artifact that won the contest?
wipe hype
whens wipe
april
all my money reserves are gone after running 12 bis kits
3 of them gone to land mine rogues by boss
rip illusory and rip pesti/abyssal\ spear
disgustingly trash game

sounds like you need to play some rust till then
how do i get jelly fish glow essance
i play arkheron
da fuck is that
You kill, ehm. I forgot what you need to kill for the jellyfish assence. Pretty sure it's ehm.. ehm. Try killing demon dogs.
Nah its goblin mage in ice cave
Nothing another thing that went in the void
yeah its called swap off dwarf
none
none should be playing it
Im just saying ranger has a kit that makes it work a bit
More then others
yeah enjoy tryna kite with -10 ms
If you play trapper ranger
But few do these days
where the the cuttle fish bro
i hate tailor so much im looking for them but i cant find shi
i can run 9 lods and be jonchina but i cant throw 9 hatches with no cooldown
lower weapoj throw cd
they just kinda swimmin around there isa guy on youtube that makes 15 sec videos for all teh quests
dont kite. stand your ground. you fight like Yoda from the prequels. tiny and unpredictable. every swing you duck, look up and drag from unpredictable angles.
as or vs
jump swing vs them
makes ur head not hitable and their very
if u are them u need to do matrix look ups
thing is
you’re fighter, you can do anything you want and be okay in the fight because that’s what your class is designed to do
just don’t suck ez
if you can pull gargoyles, centaurs, and skeleton axemen into the fight, you got a much higher chance of success as a dwarf. just duck more while you fight
lol
I wanna know how you make your money dawg, ive seen so many of your kits but i hear you just hang out in PvE, unless youre just a hidden god tier PvP killer
I think dwarf us a fun PVP skin for those who want to challenge themselves. the skin REALLY shines in PVE tho. I run it on EVERY class because of how trivial some monsters become when you're short. lots of attacks you couldnt duck under before, you can now
nope. im a PVE enjoyer. I do HR a little bit in the mornings but I avoid players as best I can
My assumption is you just farm the high tier boss rewards then, along with all the ores and gold? what a chill way to play i respect that
the secret is to nolife this game and don't waste gold on silly things like religion, cockatrice, tier 5 workshops, and buying back kits because you suck at certain bosses even in PVE....im still working on that last part
anybody know when we get to find out what season rewards are
prob like 2-4 weeks before it ends
dang
pretty much yeah. I just do the things I like to do in PVE modes (bosses and mining mostly) and the gold just happens. helps to know how to predict which items will be expensive that wipe (darkanddarkertracker dot com) and save everything you find early to sell later, when people need it
I made a killing this wipe on wendigo claws, broken spectacles, bellows, etc
bout to do it again on armor scraps and bloody bandages
pocket items like blue bandages surgical kits and clarity potions tend to sell pretty well
yes, and always ALWAYS wait to sell your ores and hunting loot til thursday night
(friday if arena releases on friday for you)
those bloodthirsty bastards overpay for everything lol
yep another good things learning spectral or troll and stocking up on the cloth and pelts then selling em when the market hits a good price
ive made 100s of thousands doing that
too late to cash in on pelts and fabrics. those markets are sunk til next season. whenever IRONMACE announces the next season start date, people panic sell their gold storage
all it took was "we plan for next season late April" and that ended the gold storage market
yea definelly a early season thing
i guess i cant send gifs dam
real
markets to get into NOW: arena consumes, arena kit crafting items, artifacts
if you know how to farm banshee, get rich dude. those sonnets go brr when arena hits
also lots of spectral farmers, so that doubleboss pile is nice n free
how are yall getting into the game ive tried what i know restarting veryifying sorry if this is the wrong chat for that
mm thanks man been trying too boot up through steam just gonna keep tryin hope you win all your fights today
during EAS8, SDF set game stability as the top priority and personally drove the decisions that built the strong foundation we stand on today
just gona plant that here every time someone mentions difficulty loading in/staying ingame. its been happening alot...
that was posted 4 days ago to the official website btw
wHAT MODULES HAVE WOOD COFFIN
theres a ton on crypt if you just walk aroung 😉
no but where
idk they look like 2 pods in one module
im in crypt rn luh twin
no but like literally there's a whole crypts module with a billion
theres a bunch there theres like a path between the two of the pods idk the name
yeah it's called twin cemeteries or smth
darkanddarkertracker.com and click maps. set your filter for ruins/crypts and wood coffins. gl broda
its like this 0-0 <---- the module i swear
i want to be honest, i dont understand how to play dark and darker as any other class other than barb
i tried rogue for 2-3 days, made the cooldown builds with strenght to maximize the abuse of rupture (10 sec cd) and used drums
so ig i said something bad
and then i met a druid
barb is as easy as fighter so try that class if you want to play sumthing else
yk barbs are SO much fun
Drums over throwing knives? Why
I REFUSE to play fighter
absolute brainless class
0-0
even barb takes more braincells to use than fighter
are we for real and you play BARBARIAN
im playing alot of classes
barb is just the easiest for me.
yea alr good talk
theyre infinite
ima go back to working on my A&P homework this aint worth it
and if enemy tries to pick them up i get a free rapier hit
i could see drums > knives on certain rogue builds. if you're using dagger mastery and NOT knives, you're doing it wrong tho
anyway, lets talk about how druid can heal from 0 to full in 2 seconds in this chat
jokester, hide mastery, creep, stealth
i had 55% cooldown reduction, 61.6% with hand crossbow and rondel dagger out
i just wanna be able to load in how do i get into contact w the creators?
9.6 seconds cd rupture
But you're so slow not really playing to strengths
Have you tried using a vpn
101.8% movespeed
it depends more on your physical power bonus, add phys, and action speed. like if you're playing a mighty rapier or shortsword setup with high phys dam bonus, rock those drums. but if you're maxed on add phys and not very strong, knives prob outperform drums for that build
considering i have literal infinite hide its alright
Not with drum out
well, its not like im running away from people with drums out
im throwing all my shit at them and wait for rupture
and then doing it over and over again
hehehe
Fun but open to getting run down
yeah fighters been a problem
also the druid who just killed me, i hate panther dash
I don't know how anyone plays rogue without poison weapon
druid being able to dash more than half a module is crazy
drums dont do poison so i decided to not bother
Awe that sucks
But it's a weapon and it works on throwing knife. Must be bug
I will coat an actual drum in poison to test this for im
well knifes are knifes, i wonder how drums would poison people on hit, lmao
to be honest i want to play ranger
but my aim is garbage
and the game has such a shit movement that sometimes hitting people with arrow is impossible
chat they bouht all the emeralds
NAHHH
oh, im using blue ones
from last night
im playing norms so, not my problem brotha
I know what im doing for some fast gold rq
make sure to use those foul boots @crisp bobcat
chop the woods!!
theyre expensive no?
there are other items too
oh thats cool
tri-pelt
oh
see foul boots hidden op
interesting
for ur blue bis
not like one extra piece with one free bonus stat will give me much
id rather take lightfoot boots with resourcefullness and gem cooldown reduction on them once again 🔥
2 phys power and an extra slot in blues is alot better
can be 3
blud is running resourfulnes in blue
yes i am
?
i tried barb, cleric, rogue, sorcerer so far
The phsy power rolls up to 3
barb, sorcerer, rogue prove to be very effective with resourcefullness builds
barb with infinite rage and savage roar 🗣️ 🔥
RAAAWRRR!!
💅
🫧
i was also able to get it to 50% pdr with my bonk stick out
no add phys though
so i was doing a little damage
but wasnt taking much either, and with barb HP pools i was able to kill fighters
They can knick you! If an edge hits you ok 50% Chance to poison
would be cool
Fix
My report numbers turned yellow
I mean its a chill game tho ofc u can minmax or u just take it easy and chill on it
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Anyone up for some HR farming Maelstrom? Dm me
I'd be happy if new content was added. I want something fresh🫧
E.g extend firedeep map
When tf they gonna balance sorcerer?
Is additional magic damage better than 2 will on the head piece?
Idk but i can't wait for them to buff it. Too many nerfs
Wilder you’re on a one way route to tavern chat sacrificing you with that comment
🤣
Riiiiiggt because its not completely op cancer right now lmfao good one
i told you Wilder
Sorc is terrible
I'm ready. its been a good run
Preach
I want more combos and less cc personally
give me the ability to make a mud golem. or a fire vortex
Drop all the knockbacks and just give me more playstyles
me too
sorcerer being a cc merchant isn’t very fun for anybody tbh
Give me storm orb. but let me shoot it outwards
also, i parried an elemental bolt with rapier last night. pretty sure that guy hopped on barb after seeing that 🤣
If you struggle against sorc just play it for a week and you’ll never die to them again
any1 experiencing crashes after extract or just me?
Down to 6k population. Not looking good for the game. This might finally be it lmao
I've seen it way worse than this i just came back this wipe
This wipe is great tbh. They just gotta keep this up and then some
blocks/parries work really well against sorc. shockingly so
Tell that to the 5 minute que times and people leaving
you and i both
5 min for what? Fill?
I always insta queue
u must be new
you gotta restart if u having ts happen
queue time is max 7 seconds
when does this wipe end?
I mean it closeish to end of wipe thats not bad at all.
And will be back to 10k+ after wipe
gotta love the revive system
i think seasons 6 and 7 saw lower player counts this far into wipe, and much much more doom.
go into duos both with 50k kits, fight geared team, mate dies, 3rd party purple boofer come and sweep everything
fuck this game
worth uninstalling
My report numbers turned yellow
me when i lose
ah yes have quest to kill warlord remove warlord spawning holy fuck these devs are ass
that’s me when i win too 
nah ur right its genius design to have to walk 5 miles to res your team mate while some rats steal all your shit you risk everything for, genius design really
does anyone haver the nohit barb collosus vid
did you pocket your mates gear so he can at least come back with equipment?
of course, they steal our kill
that sucks, hate when people do that
i hate some of the design decisions of this game
there is a reason u are downed in other games
if they made reviving too simple, it would greatly degrade the utility of clerics resurrection
i do get where you come from though. a lot of unfair and upsetting situations come outta res shrines as they are now
ah yes have quest to kill warlord remove warlord spawning holy fuck these devs are ass
at the very least, those kinds of negative situations also come with many good experiences that do go well for you and are a great time. it’s not as if every single game is drawn back and hindered by rats or res shrines
the coin flip will go in your favor eventually trooper 
i remember one wipe i had to play dozens of games to see Lich spawn once for my quest
well 25 times now it has not so idk what kind of coin we fliping
Cope and coper ngl I love this game and want it to live and succeed but its not doing well right now. Not saying the patches recently are bad but declining population and balance says alot.
what the fuck are u writing, maybe look up what ur talking about first
the game has recovered from 1-2k playercount
are u a bot or what
balance is garbage but better than it has ever been with these devs
Aot = peak
i dont think thats true, first they say paul is new, then in patch notes it says he has been there since the beginning
bunch of bs
"Paul has been part of the team since the early days of development"
Every class is good, really depends on where you're playing (squires,norms,hr)
"member since 2022"
Dang bard is so busted lol.
Fighter is great rn
Bard is horrid rn
Ok bud
i play bard all day and i think it depends
Worse fighter worse bard bad matchup into every ranged class
it feels like bard needs turbo bis to compete tho
Luffy and blackbeard eating pie meme
Been constsntly nerfed for no reason
I think bard is pretty neat
Bard is still op
#FREE RYZE
Its only able to live in bis. Gotta be mdr kit for duos and trios
Then go play it, sorry your barb got packed up
barb is ALWAYS good
I am slaying with bard right now
What mode
Do you just automatically heal when hitting with demon form or do you need a special perk
Solos norms. Just face tanked a fighter and then dissonance a wizard and won immediately. Ill go hr later
sort of both. you heal automatic with shadow touch, but when you press your demon form ability you also get onhit heals
😭
Lol playing norms and thinking it represents balance is genuinely crazy
I basically got 2 tapped when doing a bis tm lock kit. No other class kills me like bard
Then u got destroyed.
My brother. Ive seen people use bard in hr. Is slaps still
Bard has always been op
i play bard all day in hr
Then go use it in hr and go claim its op then.
like i said, u either have turbo bis or ur garbage
I will lol. Maybe you just got to practice a little more with bard
Its just simple facts. Have played a lot of bard but got almost no reason to play it this wipe with the state
I’m doing great with bard in hr duos/trios
bard seems fine
there is a special palce in hell for people who camp the entrance to elephant island on water map
W
literally no way of telling anyone is there until its too late
not op but its still very good
I been having a lot of fun on bard this wipe
Its not. Its just very very mid. In solos
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bard is cracked out of its mind
its so fun
Tf are you talking about
its very good in solos especially if you play ale
Huh? Its even better in solos
hence my "NOOOOOOOO"
you just need to not try face checking barbs
100% one of the scariest classes to fight
I was saving for a +11 phys healing ring that popped up on the market yesterday
if u js play with survival bow you win
thats tragic
pdr fighters are an issue for bards they have like no armor pen ability
thats bs
Mid in solos not great other modes unless perfect kit
time was we could run true phys, but thats gone now 🥹
Ale bard is only playable build in solos and is good but not too easy considering how many barbs and halberd fighters there are rn
Even in bis with 50 pdr if you get shrieked you can die relatively fast if you can't make space or are forced to fight
u js have to play into survival bow
I play mostly ale bard adventure mode tbh... I dont like the state of pvp rn
And bard can freely kill any caster does not matter what caster it is
wiz can be a lil difficult if they get some good momentum going on you
As long as you build at least 303 ms you’re fine into the melee classes anyways with ur bow
Holy cope.
Bard hard loses to casters unless in full mdr
Yep
song of silence
You are not locked in
Also I’m deleting the game before using surv bow
I always keep song of silence just for these reasons when I run bard
you should never lose though
I have just played the matchup as a caster
tbh Im with touchgrass on this one... I struggle hella with any caster that knows how to dodge an arrow
then you fought a bard who does not know how to play bard
Then you dumped on someone not prepared
If a caster loses to a bard they are an ai generated caster on god
Its so free. If you get dissod just kite it out then 2 tap them, if your warlock just kite it and phantom
a good wiz will cook a bard unless he misplays
You cant kite dissonance
Why are you caping
There is a reason all the top bards switched. I know a ton of top bards that stopped
how much do zirkie eye sell for ?
who tf is running dissonance
Some but not all he's the one that brought up dissonance
1 mag heal
Its 2 seconds, hit slow sucks, cant jump pull out wpns.
And you need to pull out flute to play it?
Its very easy to kite
Thats the only way bard has chance vs casters.
You can't outrun a dissonance bard if they use drum and just toss it at you
bard nerfs this season were super dumb
usually when i fight dissonance bard ill haste + invis bait their dissonance to cancel it out and im 325+ ms for 4 seconds too
It's physically impossible to outrun a drum dissonance bard as a caster
Attack on titan = peak
mannn I dont even wanna grind gold anymore now that my ring is gone ;-;
Throwing drums wins against caster
my dad is LeBron James as well
make bard great again
someone make a 10+ unique ring for sale at 100k again so I will wanna play the game lmao
Yeah i have never been caught by disso drum.
Also just fireball after it runs out
Or phantom. Or lightning vortex
I legit had to dodge every single spell on a purple wizard in full on roll Legos yesterday on bard and I was 1hp
Somehow survived. Should have died
Yeah wiz is stupid op and bard almost auto loses the matchup
Who cares abt bard can we get this sorc class out of the game it’s so broken perma
And use 5 blue magic prot pots
And all the wizard did was spam spells 
I should have thrown my drum
I guess
"remove the only class that's genuinely fun to play?"
A class that does not need to aim will in fact be op
Was in a solo stinky stick kit with no iron will.
And just had to wait while a boof wiz spammed 20 spells
It’s crazy that barb loses too without iron will
Using same 3 merge spells is fun to you? It’s just braindead wizard
stinky stick lmao
That’s just how it is
But when you can just hold a corner and spam music through a wall we have some balance issues
That’s why I always have iron will 
Was going crazy with it until i got landmined by a rogue while fighting a bt
step away from the wall lmfao
Yeah put it on after xD
what 3?? I use windblast, levitate, flamestrike, eruption, lightning vortex, frozen lightning, and elemental bolt...oh and aqua prison
thats a bit more than 3 lol
and theres plenty I didnt name that get used regularly as well...electric dash, plasma sorc, ground spike.... the list goes on
Find me a wizard that isnt using some combination of zap, haste, fireball....
And every spell has cc it’s stupid asf
same spells, over and over
at least they don't onetap you...windblast does 15 base damage. fireball does like 50.
they already nerfed the everloving crap out of sorc when they cut that knockback down on air mastery... just learn to fight from range or gap close
Yeah sorc needs changes but wiz just more op.
And sorc just helps to make wiz more op when combod
DEAD GAME
ong 90% of this community just wants to have every fight be fighter vs fighter spamming left click sprinting down enemies... like have some strategy
A lot of people. But also wiz has just been stupid op for 3 years.
And wiz sorc is the most cancer shit in the game when combod
bard + wiz+ sorc, have bard spam allegro
100%
it's a good time
I just wish things made sense
like holding shift making you go fast in water but slow on land?
Imagine wasting a team slot on sorc so that the wiz doesn’t miss the easiest spells in the game.
Seems you haven’t played vs that comp. Its not a waste in any way.
Getting flame wall, golem, thorn of earth spammed. So you randomly get locked out and 2 tapped.
And a single levitate and you dead.
When a class is as op as wiz its best just supporting that
Game needs hard-core fixing. Otherwise players aren't going to come back. No reason to. Nobody wants to fight this broken unbalanced BS.
Games filled with hyper sweat w key no brains that push every single sound they hear its wild.
I mean they are working on it. All the patches this wipe have been great
Me when i lie
Imagine getting hit by levitate lol
theyre in 500 elo arena dw
Thats a subjective opinion. They have been ehhh ok maybe but not much different from others. Mid imo. The "Class reworks" are just glorified skill adds/minor changes.
Yesh the hitscan spell
how does tofu actually taste. what even is it
Not doing anything to really fix the bad balance or issues. Still glazing magic cheese.
True the combo is disgusting, wiz does too much dmg I agree with that I jsut hate how every single sorc spell dang near effects movement in some way no other class does this it’s too much
Insta reds gone, ppls number 1 complaint. Zone gone. And countless other things
Bro sorc is terrible. I think you’re coping a bit
Taking away the ability for people to not have to fight sweats is not a good call. Just promotes extract camping and red camping for mindless sweaty no life's.
sorc is definitely good lmao ur coping aswell
Then you haven’t played sorc wiz.
You just told me to “just dodge” a hitscan spell
sorc is not bad 💀
sorc is extremely strong in solos and their kits are extremely cheap
Its a hardcore game you shouldn’t be able to insta disengage on 1 hp anytime you start losing
"Hardcore" right....
Extraction games are always seen as more hardcore
I have 750 fame on sorc and played with a wiz till I quit and played bard. Now we hardly lose
The only thing hard-core about this game is how hard-core stupid it is to force people to have to fight no life sweats in min maxed trash or let them camp extracts. Theres only 2 damn extracts and reds aside from random portals thank god but some people want to go red and dont want to be griefed
brother?
LOL
wow you went from a shit comp to a decent comp and won more fights
You lose all gear on death, you have to extract with gear you get. Game had a crazy learning curve.
How is that not a hardcore game
gg I was the fighter
Wiz sorc is a strong comp especially in trios
anyone know zirky eye cost for ?
Again its not its the same as any other extraction game. Loose loot have to learn game? How is that hard core thats any game with extraction mechanics essentially.
People play the same bs broken magic cheese. They all do the same thing and rush the same modules. Nobody is actually playing the game
Most extraction games are hardcore?
Whats ur definition of hardcore if this isn’t it
Something with balance depth and actual skill expression. Something that engages players and doesn't reward cheese and exploiting broken crap
Something where classes have multiple viable builds and diversity so you have to learn and adapt
Every game has a meta lol, extractions and mmos are usually what’s seen as hardcore games just bc you have to put time in to not be horrible
And lol is your only response gg
Especially when it’s not a shooter not bringing in any transferable skills
I love this game and have supported it since pt2. I want it to succeed and flourish but its not. Is declining every patch. We saw a high this season thats all.
Who woulda thought 
Cause it was crazy cope
And thats any new season new people come in and then realize its the same unbalanced broken sweat fest.
So tell me a game that you think is hardcore
And then leave because its the same crao
Its an easy question
Well I switched to a class you think is mid and have more success than a class you think is op
Thats beside the point and off topic. Im talking about THIS game
I mean they have done very good this season. Last season wasn’t bad.
And sdf isn’t working on the game anymore
Thats a fine opinion.
If this game isn’t hardcore then what game is
But doesn't reflect facts or the actual game and state of it
Because this game by all definitions is hardcore
Again your opinion
yo, fulltime employed dad here, only have certain hours to play through out the week, 420 friendly and looking for chill teams to find some synergy with on dark and darker. im returning after season 6 to this and have 330 fame on my warlock. also great support with cleric. need to learn bosses and farm gold atm. not the best but i do what i can, always appreciate a carry.
I would say the patches matching what almost all top players want id say are good
I think you are burnt out and want to complain about every possible thing
Catering to the loudest people does not make it good. And "top" players aren't the main demographic now is it.
Pretty easy to burnt out to be fair no good new content for years
Best class for collosus'??
Bloodthirst barb
Tbf It’s kinda hard to make a hardcore game by catering to the masses
And I think you are just glazing and coping and disagreeing just to disagree but again thats just what I think. Doesn't really matter because thats not the topic of conversation now is it?
Also if we are ever balancing around the cancer that is solos we have just lost the plot and there’s no return
Essentially. Trios is a 5 minute question time its wild. 6k players and falling the last 3 or 4 days too really sad to see
Yeah I mean they refuse to advertise so
Whats needed most is new players
The game state isn’t even that bad imo if we had even just 10k more players it would be cool
Yeah not sure why they don't I mean they try with the twitch drops and campaigns but its nowhere near enough. And they need people to stick theres a reason they don't/ won't stick around
I just think its very telling when the majority of people only play 1 or 2 of what 9 or so?
Classes
I think it’s easier to get a grip on the game sticking to a few classes to be fair
And if you’re a solo player you’re probably inclined to spam stuff like barb perma
bloodthirst barb camping cyclops for heals fucking ran
To whoever reported my bio you get zero maidens
What'd it say
My report numbers turned yellow?
Hardcore and unforgiving are in the games description so it’s not just his opinion
anyone with over 1000 hours have a chill disc to join?
Hey all, where do i get the skinny finger from? which mobs?
ghoul in inferno
Another one gone to skill issue 😔
died to pve lol
IS Sdf leaving ?
nerf bat things
You're a star thank you ❤️
anybodys game been laggy ass balls these past few days?
is finger needed for anything or just daily quest?
when patch ?
Nice try bro lol
has anything related to obsidian crafting been released??
Yea bro, I play in SEA server not sure if its the same to others.
does dark offering stacks last longer with buff duration?
310 speed sorc getting caught by a 277 speed full plate... make it make sense
sprint?
Do servers merge for next floor on dungeons?
anyone know the drop chance of unique jewelry
dark reflection nerf incoming??? BoC nerf incoming???
Why lol
i had 122 hp... stabbed a warlock once and a THIRD of my health gone... he turns, boc and hits me and im dead....
thats... like... no fun... there was no counter play.... i had the jump on him.... like what....
Got to block the boc or juke it and wait a few seconds. Idk about you. But for the most part you can tell if a warlock has boc. So I am more cautious.
Just avoid the headshot.
kinda hard when i come out on invis with ambush, stab him 3 times... he turns in insta kills me
Not a cutthroat fan?
well meta rn is pdr.... so i had armor pen... 3 stabs got him half hp but goodness bro one hit and im dead....
You get 3 headshots? You should have killed him I feel like.
nah he was tanky and had like 140hp
Hmm
after the first stab he started looking down so i couldnt hit his head from the back
Ahhh. Good on him I guess. He have a staff or what?
just a gemmed leggo one. we were pretty even on gear but 3 stabs compared to one dark reflection doing a third of my hp... and a boc hit insta killing me is wild....
game keeps lagging out for me and some other people in my match
Plus most people dont have mdr. Idk. I play boc lock alot and theres some "1 tap" builds. But just earlier I got 2 tapped since I was down 10 to 20 hp from a bard. Barb can pretty much 1 tap. Rangers 2 tap depending on the gear. Rogues can almost 1 tap depending on the gear. Sure some classes are better at killing others, but every class can be strong. This case for you was just unlucky. Id definitely say shoot for 130 plus to 140hp. And or avoid magical hits
i usually avoid clerics but now i guess ill have to avoid warlocks too
Im on warlock and clerics are scary. Perseverance is a pain. And smite. Id say cleric is my worst match up
You should try max armor pen build or something. Those slap
tbh i dont see many clerics in solo hr becuase everything can riposte now and morningstar is MAD easy to riposte
thats what i was running lol
Ahh lol. Poison? And rupture?
i legit 4 tapped a full pdr leggo fighter the game before dying to that warlock... i hit him with 3 headshots and body shot and he fell xD
nah full hide ambush, creep and weakpoint attack
Nice haha
what are your thoughts on the war hammer instead of the morning star? ive been seeing that a little bit more lately.
Ahh
Personal preference. But morning star feels better. Not sure why.
i havent seen literally anyone running the war hammer and i havent like it since it came out tbh. i dont like that it has MUCH shorter range than it looks like it hsould have
plus the morning star hitbox is ALOT bigger than the model in your hand
i got told it was because the swing pattern is alot harder to riposte but idk. i do enjoy the morning star myself, but as you said - alooot easier to riposte it.
Morningstar reach still bugged or not fixed? It used to hit like a foot further than it should
Why has gold coin bag prices plummeted
how much longer until next wype?
End of April I believe
ty
What coral do you prefer? Hard or soft?
i heard rumours of a patch tomorow? any confirmation on that?
Rumor? Don't they always potential patch on Thursdays?
It's likely true, since what they said last qna
The entire market has crashed, they announced wipe at the end of april so people are selling everything for fuck all prices.
What are we hoping to see in the patch ?
i felt this in my bones, no idea why fighters are still so fast
how much is a bt worth
why is hurl weapon banned
@gaunt oracle how much is your golden hood worth dude its gotta be like 50k
just had one, have crashes very often for some reason
idk, likely never going to be sold. I dont think I'll roll a better one this season
sitting down has crashed my game twice in a row. sat down, crashed, relaunched and rejoined, sat down, crashed
"during EAS8, SDF set game stability as the top priority and personally drove the decisions that built the strong foundation we stand on today" - IRONMACE 14 March, 2026
how much can i sell a Unique Bear Pendant with 9.1% armor pen for? there is none on the market and im pretty new
Is it teaming if a player show himself friendly, walking around with another player then backstabs me infront of the other rogue?
Yes
I went in with a gear for 20k and lost it
thanks for the donation 
Yeah...
The worst part is that even if u report them nothing happens
Especially now when the game is dying
son i just crashed while opening the game 💀
when is wipe guys
april
do you by anychance know when i can see it also for mate
when is wipe?
can i get my stuff back from goblin merchant without playing a match
takes 5mins
is there a stat roll that affects how much i can heal per ale on bard
Physical healing I think
how cancleric use judgement while silenced with bard song ?
Hey guys! Is Arena out tonight?
why the fuck do i have to do 9 million different quests to unlock 3 white items only to have to do 17 quadrillion more boring tedious quests just to unlock items i dont need for my squire kit
Love it when fighters gain an invisible buckler in front of their face when they use polearms, LETS GO SPACE MAP
what does the tear of the volcano craft
Tomorrow
Gotcha! Tx
Believe there’s no craft, just a quest turn in item
Cries for the volcano
whats better, platelock or rogue for goldfarming/pve?
ok I'm so confused where tf is the keep?
bro how are people cheesing colossus
doi need unique bangles for anything this season or can i just vender it
line holder with a twist ! xD
physical healing
one tile south and west from the direct center of ruins
what does bloodthirst heal stack with? mag healing or phys healing
it only scales by the damage your attacks with it deal, 20% lifesteal
good comms teammate
no problem, i hope one day i’ll get to run a bt 🥹 it’ll be the best day ever
What is the best and fastest method for killing colossus
smack him lots
BT is the best answer
realistically
warlock with a LOT of pdr and mdr with TM for healing
just died to sharty tip on water map and it reminded me how much i miss that fat fuck
So how hard is colossus now?
hes not even hard move set wise
but to kill its very tedious and does stupid dmg
oh significantly
Oh my
ill take a full 27 shard warlord over colossus
So what's the point of killing it, does it drop anything good?
all axe artifacts, tear of the colossus
and obsidian ore
too bad axes are shit
debatable
20 true on echo is nothing to scuff at
block makes it a lot more viable fs
and whirlwind
damn yea 20 true with whirlwind would be criminal
i feel like id just always rather run a BT than an echo tho
its the most broken combo
Bt is still based off damage
echo whirlwind is guarenteed kill just about always
BT is goated for just staying alive
why is spectral fabric so low now
my 65 pdr cleric like 160 hp died to a whirlwind echo
with my artifacts
Time to get my old teammates and learn bosses since water map and farm some artis
How's the population in hr?
I've played few games and most of them were dead in eu
Does Combo Attack work on fighter?
Isn't combo attack a fighter perk? Or something changed
Heard it’s bugged or maybe doesn’t work as written exactly
Some people thought it's bugged because it didn't activate until like 3rd swing but I think they changed it
I had no problem with it
Ah yes, it takes 3 swings or has been updated? Last I heard it was no good. Wanted to check in.
If anything it got buffed some months back, dunno about it bugging, always works for me fine and on 2nd swing
The change was it does activate on second swing instead of third
Instead of 3rd? It never activated on 3rd
nice glitch im invisible and the warlock dragon crap hits me awesome
hydra sees invis dude
that makes no sense
does anyone know what are top 3 races in game? are +1 wep dmg skins worth going for?
the -3MS +1 wep isnt worth it. the -3HP +1 wep is, IMO
bro whoever is botting the market rn frickin chill out
every single item I list, I refresh and theres 5 undercutting me by up to 20g/q...literally one second later
from ore to plants to quest items
GAMES DOO DOO
alright thx
weird question...anyone know what the highest physical healing can roll on a unique ring? theres so few that come to market but I saw one yesterday with +11... Im waiting for the next 10-or-higher to get listed but Im running out of storage for the gold lol
so in this case, nightmare mummy wouldnt be worth it or it would?
nm mummy good. frost skel bad
alrighty, and for rogues what is better, nm mummy or orc?
nm mummy or ifrit
alr thx, sadly i cant get ifrit anymore so ill get nm mummy
i
is trading post even worth using? Ive been in there for <5min to see what sort of things get posted and theres ppl sending links to RMT sites lmao
only really use it to buy/sell artifacts, gold storage, and bis gear
gotcha...thats the vibe I was getting as well... follow-up questions:
Is staying up close to the colossus and parying still viable
- what is a "db," and what's the going rate on a gold chest? cuz it seems to be 90-95k unless those are ppl asking high
OH deathbloom im just dumb
that would be the gathering hall
Is staying up close to the colossus and parying still viable
also most items are worth too much to go up on the marketplace
no
lmaooo I like this narrative
barb was prolly js tanking the fire damage while cleric healed
Bro idk what to do against ts bro
or they got some other strat I have yet to be able to find
me and my friend have fought ts 50 times and only beat it twice💔 we always die on third stage bruh
I mean if a chest is 90-95k (which is what most seem to be asking for theirs), what would u say is worth too much for the 100k market cap?
a chest is worth a db 3 spec
not 90k
what does that even mean
a deathbloom and 3 spectral coinbags
like 140-150k depending on the time
so what is a deathbloom worth?
4 spectral bags
how on earth do yall keep track of ts when spectral bags fluctuate between 10k and 80k and back within a week
yall should be trading commodities, not playing this damn game
but then it wouldnt be a game
Js a lot of trading
At beginning of wipe i prolly made 1m or so gold js trading
how much gold does a chest hold again? its my first wipe back since season 3 and I never got my hands on one before with how rare they were lol
25k
and it takes up 2x4 horizontally?
2x3
when is wipe
April
end of april right?
wait yall just said a chest is worth 140-150k?
why would anyone buy that over a chest that's listed on the market for 95k right now lol
cuz there's 6 of em between 95-100k rn
if i have 0 magical healing does warlocks vampirism perk increases my magical healing anyways?
aint no way ur telling me taxes are 33%
LMAOOOO someone bought it
this chat is so predictable
what artifacts can rogues use
that sat there for 30min, disappeared 5sec after I said something...thats not a coincidence lmao
is the only way to gain artifacts as a pve player the market?
yeah in the past minute its went from "[GC] 1 db 3 spec" to "...2 spec" to "1 spec" xD
or get lucky with piles and bosses
i thought bosses do not drop artifacts in pve mode?
ohhh you meant pve like the gamemode yea ur cooked buddy
iron will needs a bad nerf
give casters some counterplay to a 170hp tank running at them with 295 movespeed
why is it deathbloom that's become the standard currency of 80-100k? is it just super common or something?
just odd that it's one specific artifact
My report numbers turned yellow
Yes and your healing potions too. But id aim for 12 to 16 in norms and higher in hr. Just make sure 1 of your rolls per item is magical healing. The rest can be whatever your build requires.
😭
is it just me not being used to the "glass" build or is rogue just garbage
and i just switched off of my platelock build for rogue, that was a big mistake 😭
should i just go fighter
no legendary?
honestly I would just try them all a bit then stick to one thing
ive tried everything tbh
not having legendary extremely limits what you can do in the game tbh I would suggest considering buying it if you can
id prolly say warlock is my class but its so gear dependant
yeah your right
plate lock with demon is prob one of the best squire build in the game
bard is insanely good aswell too
actually?
its good at killing mobs that it pretty much and warlock does that easier anyway lmao
ohhh alr
in pvp bard is basically a lootbag walking around it needs to be buffed imo
i think bard is pretty good
When is Next wipe
ahhh ok
bard is only good at tryingto survive other classes it requires so much kiting and spacing while other classes are much easier to play
i just want a class that makes money especially with the fact im so limited to certain things in this game
and you basically need jolly time crutch to have a decent chance
bard
bard or rogue
rogue is just bro i cant with the health stuff
bard is probably the better option for bosses and clearing
like please tell me it gets better once im geared
you should be avoiding as much pve as possible on rogue
ill prolly stick to platelock as i find it easier bossing with it
and hitting all the juicy spots on the maps
ahh can rogue unlock doors like treasure room doors
Anyone Know When Next wipe gonna be ?
what is "emp?"
im always told that warlock is best cuz of the flame walker ability
flamewalk is only particularly good on ice map
barbs are so dumb in this
flame walker is good for clearing adds hell fire is good for bosses
patch tonight??
makes me question should i go caster or platelock for pve
whats the skill in basically one to two shotting anyone with a bardiche
I would run caster with TM and vamp for bosses just cause of the sustain and also range advantages
what was the last class to come out BEFORE warlock?
alright thank you bro hopefully ill get legendary status soon enough
30 dollars is depressing bro
and all curses heal right>
im playing fighter slayer and ifeel like i have to dodge time and fight with real strategy
seems rough untill you look at the cosmetic prices
no all curses dont heal
yea cause im thinking i should run bolt too cause i dont think weakness heals
the main ones for self heal are lifedrain, curse of pain and power of sacrifice
and if you run life drain you should run hydra aswell
hydra drain healing works differently from TM healing. hydra drain you want juiced magic dmg to convert to heals (staff, lots of will) where TM lock really just wants mag heal and cast speed
ahh ty. couldnt remember if it was bard then lock or vice versa
We wait till Wipe
I just saw a clip of a barbarian face tanking like 15 dark bolts from a geared warlock why is that even allowed
i had forgotten how dogsht this game is before it just rubber banded me off a fuking ledge next to the wyvern
dont tell them about iron will + MDR + projectile dmg reduction. they'll burn you as a witch
how many years and im still losing shit to your servers lmao great job ironmace
notice that barb heals when he gets cursed
the curses hurt, the projectiles did NOT
damage resistance is the dumbest stat in the game, yea im gonna make all of your damage do 25% of what it normally would and building pen is half effective against resistance like what
still can be, but to get there you sacrifice alot of survivability
pve builds can still all-in on damage to feel mighty as they once were
pvp builds youre throwing to try
sounds about right
but hey, wiz/rogue rework coming Soon(TM). hopefully it gets here around the same time as skill trees and gathering halls
Mfw 3D gathering halls finally arrive 
is it true is sdf gone?
bro lycan w a coif on too funny looking
cant wait to go back
thats fine. I'll be the Gilded Dwarf of the OG Tavern
if they release before the world ends
flip a coin ig
why do i always run into complete fucking losers every time i play this game
cant fight anything else but stone cold meta
just got chased around by a barb named monstrobarb and a rogue named mommy who are blatantly teaming in hr gobby caves us east
sure is a shame reporting them does absolutely nothing and theyre not gonna stop. solos are just impossible to play unless youre cheating aswell
where can I go to submit a video of teamers in the chat?
you cant LMAO
best race for warlock?
tm lock is skeleton mage
like obtainable i dont think you can still get skel mage
when patch?
bundles for emberflame skins, nice
what does judment and smite scale with best
Gracias Mija
devs just let the game go to shit and get stale
not playing this ass anymore
i like 🧀
what kind
u can they lied
so clip it, turn it into a youtube video and make it unlisted, and in game use the esc button annd click support in top left
My report numbers turned yellow
gracias mija
if its in normals then no point. its allowed
@vital grove DUDE GET OUT OF HR TRIOS LOBBIES OR PUT SOME GEAR ON. AS SOON AS WE LEAVE YALL LET YOURSELVES DIE TO ADS SO YOU CAN GIVE CANCER TO A FRESH LOBBY
On their website
pathetic
My report numbers turned yellow
aged gouda is my favorite, utrech something? its awesome
Believe that the quantity of the ore you can get differs in each mode, but based on a range, so you have a higher chance of getting more ores per mining before the node breaks
W
Damn the blantanticity
no update is brazy back to marathon
My report numbers turned yellow
Probably soon or tomorrow, doubt they’d go two weeks without
hmm fair. im kinda basic i guess. FETA for me.
super secret update: Axe Specialization +3 -> +3.5
are you a dev?
🫧
feta is good! i like all cheese
even the blue veiny one ? 😒
yes 🙂 a great camembert can be great so umami it makes your taste buds salivate so much
try some aged gouda tho, its the best! its also not strange at all, just yummy...
hmmm i dunno, it seems sus
nah gouda is normal af ask chat gpt
it just taste piny and sweet for some reason
like taste of mozzarella but with the snap of a cheddar, piney, sweet, nutty, aromatic, umami are all words i can type to make you buy cheese
patch today?
Not if I have anything to say about it
Gouda and Munster cheese are 100% my go to for like, a good grilled cheese
friend in some garlic butter bro
now that keys dont leave the dungeon what are the items people are using for storing high values? is it really just coin bags now or has something taken its place?
I prefer troll cheese
db
im not sure what that stands for
death bloom (db)
ahhh so basically go for the best item in the game and if you're too broke for that try to get other good items that will reliably sell for high value
guy with nipalan and kumas claw in hr ruins
anyone else keep getting a bug that makes it that you're holding shift unless you're in the menu
yea if u alt tab and go back in it should fix
hmm even rebooting didn't work for me :/

Alt + shift
if i close out verify integrity and reboot ill be like normal until i open map or any inv
ill give it a try
doesn't seem to work thanks tho
when patch?
this is a bug that comes from tabing out, its like your alt is always pressed, press alt key after tabbing back in and the bug clears
happens to me every time i tab out of the game and back in, so i make sure to always press alt a couple times after tabing in
what is the bundle weapon prices
We will find out when they are added. But im guessing its gonna be like 20 for each
rework power of sac i beg
is it patch tomorrow
Should be today but idk maybe it’ll be tomorrow
where patch? soon right?
Every time someone asks for patch it gets delayed >:)
Sorry, I had to patch my old teddy bear. That is where the patch went. I hope you all understand
yeah im thinking berserk nerfed, speed from rage removed, iron will mres/knock removed, merge innate
finally a good patch, thank you terry, thank you paul
add back move speed rolls
Center of ruins? The bridge?
did they say anything about the new rogue and ranger perks/abilities? or is that not happening this season?
1 south of bridge, then 1 west
berserk should make it so you actually lose damage and speed if you are healthy, thoughts??
I dont like that tbh
Sounds like a great question that should have been answered in the recent Q&A! (but it wasn't)