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goblin caves firedeep
its like a little thing thata spawns on the ground and you can interact with it for loot
Okay, now I know I wasn't imagining things since I got to stare at one I killed: what is the race that has horns and a lion's tail? It looks like it even had an accompanying potion bottle cosmetic.
Krampus
krampus tongue
Ahhh okay, thank you so much.
do the trees in certain modules have a lower chance to give sturdy logs
wtf is up with DaD these days, randomly just closes and getting tavern errors
idk who the heck kills the golem boss but that shet is unkillable for me been trying for 8 hours
i dont think it's possible solo without some serious cheese. maybe a magic healing warlock
idk tried to duo it even the 1 attack is like C****R and it just if ur in front of it it auto hits u or will randomly instant 180 slam on the duo
which one?
he spins to much to constant dodge if u duo it the 3rd faze change lol
buff dwarf skin, give it ore detection passive
yooo wouldnt it be sick you could stack campfires in 3
are you talking about where he keeps spamming left and right swings
arena is so small at 3rd facze its just spaming attacks yea
im bored. how is the pve scene in the game? still crowded? and are all the quests out already?
good one SDF i wanted copper but got cobalt 😭 😂
even the lava throw attack is rip
make me a dev i'll make this game better 
you can duck under most of them, it's the lava that gets me
yea lava is like rip.
i can do the entire fight without getting hit but then i lose half my life to 1 lava hit
better then getting 1 shot by troll or warlord at least
havent really done the fight so not sure if thats true
those are fair though, you can dodge all of their attacks. the lava for fire colossus is just totally random. like pre-nerf cyclops
What’s the best pve bow to use ?
longbow or recurve
What happend to communication in this game? No one talking anymore
on ranger? longbow.
where is the sturdy cloth?
i know of 3 off the dome - in end wall in the hidden wooden corner, in barbican in the towers, and in goblin bandits in the little campsite
where is that 3rd one?
goblin bandits is the one that looks like a big minus sign on the map
OHHHH
yea yea
Thank you my good sir
ywc good luck

why is the wyvern fight so easily interruptable
im trying to kill a boss not 2 squires
anybody manage to kill fire colossus?
do you guys know how to find the shield guy in ice map? sorry im new...
the 2nd level has quite a few
we need a new craftable item for this...
"Boss Snax" works like a halo sticky grenade but instead of exploding, it draws 100% boss aggro for the duration (probably like 30seconds seems fair).
ahh great thank you
in HR or in normal?
both
frost giant shielders are only in top level ice mountain, not in ice abyss (2nd floor). theres 2 guaranteed, one in middle module and one cave swamp
i shouldve asked if he meant the skeletons with kiteshields, the skeletons with round shields, or giant shielders
I thought skelly maceman at first, too
normal skeletons are all over me most of the time 😄
the skelly macemen are only on the 2nd level and are often a source of confusion so i thought you meant them tbh
there is ONE on top level still.. a relic of ancient times long-since-passed... he lives under the kobolds in mountain pass
haha all good thank you 🙂
I would say Pyramid spawns 2 Ice Skeleton shield when you're going down that ramp
lets all call monsters by their wrong names all day, just to maximize the confusion
whats your fav firedeep monster? I really like the zac efrit
altho, the bbq bacon slider is pretty cool too
do you guys think it's weird we dont have any demon bosses?
do you guys think its weird that fire colossus is driving me clinically insane trying to kill it in squire?
im never touching the fire colossus again personally. they could make him the most balanced and engaging fight of all time at this point and it would just show that they could have done that before releasing him.
boss is ass ur better off learning ANYTHING else
colossus is a testament to the work ethic of the leadership at ironmace
(its bad)
bad on release, worse now, dont care about the future of it
you better start learning him tho, 10 of those tears for the cosmetic 💀
im not sure if it's possible in squire without getting incredibly lucky
fire colossus wasnt too bad altho i havent tried him post buff. killed him on yhe first day but it took me a week to get my first stingray kill. i imagine postbuff colossus is the same difficulty in that case
worse
I got 2 stingray eggs last season. 1 for me, 1 for the homie. IM said they wouldnt make quests that hard for cosmetics, then they release FIRE COLOSSUS with his 10 giga rare drops vs 1... and btw, hes impossible to solo without god-tier RNG
which is fun, we need challenging things in this game lol everyone clowns on bosses in hr nowadays
idgaf about anymore fomo bullshit cosmetics
sirs, where are these wooden masks at?
Frozen caverns - pyramid or yeti temple
thanks ive been to pyramid looking for them. maybe im just old and blind
"I dont know what I'm talking about, so let me make some shit up rq to be involved" attempt fire colossus, then form opinions. you don't HAVE TO HAVE a guesstimated opinion on everything
since his buff, he's 100% RNG to kill now. environmental dangers in phase 3 deal half your HP (TRUE) in one hit. don't fuck up once or you lose
just gotta get good, like not even trolling
you said you farmed the eggs so that means you toughed out the stingray when you learned it
do the same thing here
blocked
hahaha thats okay
apebiogenesis blocked you bro. thats curtains
do i gotta hit veteran today for the cosmetic? or do i have more time
its til the end of the arena season i believe. you have several more arena weekends to keep going for your goal rating
tyty!
can we fix expressman loot disspeareing? getting annoying
can we fix ppl parrying with bows - sure parry but bow gets broken - fair trade.
Is there anyway to check what all the minor artifacts are? Like Hazeblade, thorn shield etc
look at them on marketplace
How am I supposed to look at them if I don’t know their names??
ohh, yeah i dont know of an updated resource. maybe you can find a list on youtube or reddit
check the wiki, it's missing the newer artifacts since 2 seasons, but minor's havent changed much afaik. Maybe just the effect stats, but the names should help. (minor artifacts are all the purple ones)
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Artifacts#Swords-0
hey guys i can't enter to the game it says error code 21 on launcher, someone have any infor about ?
run uninstallers in every dark and darker folder you can find, "tavern" "dark and darker" "blacksmith" folders I think each have one. then reinstall. works for some
what is your definition of "a few", Graysun?
round these parts, "a few" is 3. and 3 weeks ago, you said this.
@hexed adder is sdf going to fix the boss (fire deep)
A strong bow …. WOULD NOT BE BROKEN , the amount of heat tempering you do to the wood makes them extremely hard and Yet still flexible , it’s a skill to make Bows , and a good one hits like a baseball bat
Very soon 🙏
🇫 🇷 🇪 🇪
🇹 🇭 🇪
🇴 🇷 🇪
We are looking into it
❤️ 
i emplore you to fight it
Thanks, when I find out where it is I will
post a punch only kill or washed
u win these
Yo guys can someone help me? I have some major fps issues on this game, like I get maximum 60 fps and in fights or in general the fps just drop to like 50 40 idk what to do, its the only game where my fps are shit tf is this
middle module you jump a gap up top near the miniboss
o7
hello is there still a way to connect steam to an old blacksmith account?
Ah yes the weapon that needs to bend and flex to be functional is also when needed sturdy and hard as a baseball bat - understood.
from where do you get mysterious potions?
is pickpocket rogue on hr layer one of crypts any fun?
dreadspines or its a random spawn on some boxes on water
like ive seen it for sure on zipline island
on water map? never seen them
yeah its pretty uncommon but I know I found one last wipe there as a loose loot spawn
Correct
it seems a lot of those from last wipe you could find on boxes have been moved to mob drops
Anyone know where to find ash piles in the inferno goblin, Ivw found 1
they're all over. i saw like 3 or 4 in the module with the pig and lava golem and the hp shrine
that module with the pig has a few
they are kinda hard to spot without really scoping out the room
I've probably walked past them lol
I suggest getting up high and looking out over module
ik i did the 1st couple games so probably lol
damn alright
idk for sure yet, but I haven't seen a lot of them this wipe
does anyone know why my game keeps randomly freezing?
you clearly never used a real life bow before ..... or know how they are made ....... its pretty easy not to judge stuff untill you learn more about it
When is ranger goign to be fixed for arena ffs ?
DID YOU KNOW SWORDS ALSO HAVE FLEXIBLITY ..... or they would just SNAP when impacting something LMFAO
just nerf longbow
Maybe .... its obscene the damage
fighter and ranger been OP since day 1 cause of longbow but ironmace dont wanna say so
its been so long
kills everyone in 3 shots if not they one and die fart
LONGBOW gets JUICED when in a full strength build and with Headshot % now ..... if people can land arrows its one of the strongest damage dealing classes and its ranged XD
makes the melee game so fun
i will say rangers are squishy and if you are good at timing shots you can dodge to reach them ........ knowing the Shotgun dodge is also HUGE , because then a pointblank shotgun becomes pointless for them againest you and you can slaughter them
drip has been fkin DRIPPY these past few wipes
shotgun dont bother me, its my entire health bar being gone because they gutted MS so ranger is just free kites all season
doesnt have to fight anyone can run from everything no punish
sick of this longbow ranger shit
just sick of longbow take it out the game
Ranger can hit you from toher side of the map , liek being hit with a Barcihe .... wtf ?
or cut the dam in half one or the other
make longbow slower to use , longer draw back times
long bow during drawback you have 0 MS drawback time increased by .8 second
honestly i think some form of that would help , if they still do damage they would now then need to repositon more to stay alive and time their shots better
would make back step viable as a 1 time get out of jail for bad positioning
allows people good with shots to still use the class build and nerfs some of the movespeed kite issues
agreed
just got +0 rating for winning an arena match w
yea lets just let all the warlords smurf yeaaa great idea you drop rewards and smurfs at the same damn time way to go devs!
My report numbers turned yellow
why tf do we still have these bad areana maps why wont they put good maps in
should i stack magic bonus or additonal on warlock caster?
Fix this longbow shit wtf ?

My fighter has 75% pdr and 75% projectile red I ain’t feelin these bows lol
So , you have to totally gimp your chaarcter vs any magic caster classes .... to defend against 1 weapon, Longbow .... Longbow is fine then lol
Nah I also carry a neck and chest that I swap too for 55%mdr… it’s called being prepared
You switch 2 pieces into 55mdr ? ok xD
pve should be team only loot for x amount of time dil holes taking loot from boss/subs and not doing jack for it
Yea with taunt it’s 65%mdr 🙂
are ultimate gems useless this season?
spell casting speed
im 58 will and not that mdr , amaizng xD
additional then bonus magic
Dark plate, dark padded and torque of soul, plus 12% from taunt
15 will btw loool
taunt would last longer with more will tho
If I don’t want to switch I can blend the sets for 70%pdr 55%proj red and 46% mdr but then I lose my frost amy
Yea is pretty near infinite tho the cd is only like 10 seconds or something I don’t remember
Max rank cockatrice has not brought me shit
all that and bro just fumbles to a single slow from wiz
Nah I’ve been running breakthrough because the slow/lightning storm combo is too nutty lol
lightning storm? 2400 rating+ arenas is just all wiz, cleric and ranger or fighter
Ok sorry because of ( insert slow mechanic here )
: You can't kill me
: I know, but he can
:
Oh wait you have breakthrough
Hm
I’m trying really hard to be able to play the game the whole time lol
Alright I've seen enough make Breakthrough not remove slows 
Hahah now I wanna make a buff duration version
I mean, I'm still running this janky longsword lol
I use the zwei blocks my face Perry good
It must be nice
For two years the zwei has just been missing something and now that it can block it feels really good
Spear block is crazy tho
Longsword has perhaps the least practical block lol. On top of that the hitbox is mesh perfect and you can't even guard yourself with the hilt or cross guard
the cope for longbow is crazy, it is blatantly broken lmao (im longbow fighter
Yeaa it feels bad the repost is really nice tho
Zweihander makes me feel like Vendetta from Overwatch
Not saying it’s not broken just saying there’s things you can do to make it hurt less
If Fighter was allowed Recurve Bow, I'd be so happy.
he is?
It’s a perk investment that isn’t really worth anymore
I feel that if I say "I was Fighter was allowed" then that implies I wish Fighter was on the list of classes that can use the utility
he is allowed he has a perk that allows him
Also... taking Weapon Mastery for Recurve Bow would be stupid
Recurve Bow isn't that great lol
yea it is so dont know why youd want it
Because I prefer it to a Crossbow
youd think a warden would understand the perks fr
He means without wasting a perk man lmao
I understand the perks just fine.
👍
I'm a Fighter main with 3,000 hours in this game and over 1,500 fame on the class
I just wish I didn't have to take a perk for a weapon we used to have
Yikes strange flex
congrats, ive got 500 hours in game and a successful concrete business want a cookie?
Not really a flex moreso to get the point across to say he understands the class no?
If it was good I'd understand needing the perk but Recurve Bow is pretty much the epitome of mid
He got called out for not knowing perks it’s not a strange flex lol, saying you have a business is the strange flex
all bows are mid when longbows busted
I know the perks just fine. What I was saying was I wish Fighter had Recurve Bow innate to the class.
strange comparing anything thats the point rock
Pointy rock? What you on about lmao
see now that makes sense
you are a rock, not suprised it went over your head. im sure much does
I use ranged weapons moreso for pulling mobs at a distance and finishing off low health people as opposed to spamming to try and get the kill without using melee.
For that, Recurve Bow being in between is perfect for me
ive been enjoying the handcannon this season fr
Yea that’s a good name for the build I use to counter the longbow meta

Hand cannon do be slapping ngl
much needed buffs fr
any1 know how to go the "interact with iron door" quest
Hand Cannon has a side effect where, despite it having a very loud charging sound, somehow my teammates always walk in front of it
Hahah true
😂
Open the Iron Door in the Armoury Module in Crypts, or the one at the top of the stairs in the Inferno module with 3 floors, where axe traps and spiders are in the bottom and lots of small rooms are in the middle floor
Fireball has same bug
hope everyone is having a great morning
Walking cane needed for any quests?
🤓
very strange considering this game has been dead for quite a while lol
i hope you’re having a nice day friend
nope. not a great morning. sadly its not morning anymore
NOT EVEN A PEBBLE!
Who?
any time I see a plate fighter with a longbow I know I'm dealing with a timmy
literally 0 exceptions
Sometimes I question why people seem to ragebait me lol
Been running HR lava map exclusively for the last week or two and haven't seen a single person on Colossus since the fight change, is Cinder the rarest arti rn?
Yes

whgere did all the stinky sticks go?
To stinky place
someone bought them all up from market? there were like 100 under 30k
WHY IS THE GAME LAGGING TODAY
WHY IS THE GAME LAGGING TODAY
WHY IS THE GAME LAGGING TODAY
WHY IS THE GAME LAGGING TODAY
WHY IS THE GAME LAGGING TODAY
WHY IS THE GAME LAGGING TODAY
WHY IS THE GAME LAGGING TODAY
whats the best shirt for bard now?
Since it's hard to get cinder
Someone should buy all of them to be super rich
is 168hp with 44% pdr and 39% mdr pretty decent for hr?
sounds good
im running potion chugger, iron will, berserk, and robust, along with savage roar Achilles
only 96% ms tho
also whats with all the trolls
so may people just load in and tk til ur 1 hp
and they're not punished
free game blues
Does anyone know how to get green accessories for the squire's sorrow quest?
im pretty sure its confirmed to be bugged atm, but if u really want to finish the quest now u need to loot them from players
its the only way they count as looted
Thx
anyone notice some bad lag today? my whole trio was laggin earlier
does any merchant gives chest for quest this wipe ?
huntress for 30 gold coin thats for sure
ye but beside him
mb treasurer but im not sure
Treasurer will
this season im keeping one of each bangle, every color
(not uniques) but im almost done, missing like a few legos 2-3
some lobbies were pretty bad but mostly fine (US east)
i dont know i havent changed pc since the start of the playtest of dark and darker and somehow the performance has just gotten worse and worse
i dont think my pc is the problem q_q
do people with a 3070 run low graphics or its just me
should i try somehthing other than dlss
typically what happens over the duration like a game like this, they keep adding and adding and it drags on pcs, im sure in the future they will do some serious opt. for older pcs
might come back to this game when SSF is a thing again, playing with market is the worst experience ever.
do i have an older pc q_q
i run low graphics on everything and i got a 4080
ok ty for the info good info
well anything that isnt current i would consider "older" but honestly the new stuff is kinda junk wrapped in gold
none, best performace ive seen, atleast i turn the ingame one off
80 res
50 was unlivable lk and didnt change much
i bet, probadly looked like you were looking at raw pixels hahah
its all the same except like the big dip whenever the inventories of other players load in but itll last longer i think when i boost to medium or high
just spent about 5k Gold on luck i have currently 400 luck base and witht he potion between 450 to 550 is this worth it
no go to youtube and watch glocktane video
luck is useless
yes but honestly if you arnt farming golden/lioni head chest its not worth it
or solo boss farming
even then
the video about luck not working on piles? it's pretty easy to see it working for monsters and chests
ngl i do not trust any dark and darker content creators anymore at all lol
LK i just pile when i play i dont chest that much
Theres like 2 that i trust right now lol
for that price seems good to me. if you can put it on a bard you can use wonderes luck and get a base 500
oh i didnt know that
yeah, then you save on pots and can use unchained harmony to open locked chests
you know which map i should play on or just farm the bosses in cyrpts
im a big water map enjoyer.
they were nuking optimization since the revert and reverter days. patches that contained nothing more than altered variables causing framerate issues. they dont actually need to add anything to blow up optimization, and when they do ade actual content? 🥴
ok thank you
good luck adventurer!
what wiz perks are best for caster rn?
what is price for bloodthrist currently?
My report numbers turned yellow
If they have not turned blue after all this time I think you might be sending to many false reports
I'm an from tel aviv and dark and darker is my favourite game
glory to the big yahu and sdf
dumb question, but how do I make my own trios group? I've looked everywhere but I cant find it
why can you only go to Neutral with Armourer?
I've never been able to queu solo into HR trios. What's with that?
Guys, I dont get it. Does Holy purification hit player or not?
My report numbers turned yellow
how can i get 2 uncommon loot accessories for hte squire quest if they don't drop in raid anymore
do you still lose gear in arena if not crafted or found?
go normal game and kill anyone with
im like 100% sure this was unintended and they are going to change it
are there known performance issues going on rn? Drivers updated, game optimized in Nvidia, stable connection, tried lowering all graphics settings. Still getting severe fps drops and stuttering basically when doing anything.
how do i fix freezing and stuttering ? it started this wipe
My report numbers turned yellow
No one cares
why you responding to blocked messages @warm fable
b/c he loves hitting show message like a little puppet biyatch
Fun
same for me
My report numbers turned yellow
My report numbers turned yellow
i almost like the game these days
almost feels as good as patch 68 (but doesnt)
still all and all, i liked then disliked and now im reliking the patch. Cheers.
Let's goooo!!
why can't the fighter wear champion armour? its such a good piece of armour it gives strength and vigor and only takes 10 movespeed isn't the fighter supposed to be able to wear all plate armour?
- its really good looking
My report numbers turned into a kangaroo court
Let's gooo
its boof and goofer. just how it goes. theres a chest piece only wearable by druid and warlock. what do druid and warlock have in common that would make them capable of wearing the same exclusive form of leather? that, on top of all the glove and boot restrictions, i stopped questioning the boof. the dagger restrictions, its all just an arbitrary circus
Is it true that there is a new aiming assist cheat lately?
sucks it's genuinely one of the best looking armour sets in the game
whoever said lich is hell to do solo I'm sorry for doubting you this shit is horrible
its like how will should be a sought after stat for all magic users but will is so weak that casters rather go knowledge for cast speed
correct
you can get them from the rusty key room just do pve key room or sum 😭
be at 97%+ HP when he purples or expeditiously return to the lobby
my message looks cool and unique
you can also kill players
dont forget the infinite mobs that a respawned the second you down them all
as a solo unless you’re cleric you pretty much have to try to avoid and dodge most mobs
that dangerous what if one archer hit me in the foot or something while im in the near one shot attack lmao
or just be warlock and have the easy healing
Game bugged cant buy blue spellbooks from the alchemist fix your stuff ironmace
you just dont have them availible yet
How much recoverable health warlock has after purple circle?
i dont think it does that much non recoverable dmg. tho i play demon form so i slap a skeleton a couple times and im full hp
still warlock movespeed meta how many season we need to play other classes? its so boring when yo fight with warlock
Warlock Ms meta ? 
i believe you get healed enough after to negate all the perma damage
yea u cannot solo lich on bard
you can
elaborate
is it cancer? irs probably cancer
focus on not taking dmg. and yes
but still possible
yea im not doing that bullshit change the boss to make it reasonable
get a group then
valid
all my friends who played the game quit a year ago because these devs couldnt make a good decision for years
get them back into the game. or get more friends
theres also lfg here
i dont believe i will be playing with andys
i think devs should just balance around their most popular gamemode
kinda stupid not to!
you find good andys
not really? the game is kinda made around being in a group. thats just how the classes work. + it does say on the steam page "Band together with your friends" so if you dont want to group up with others then your prob gonna be at a disadvantage

if any class is good at solo bossing its bard or warlock. ive seen bards solo the wyvern in base gear
So basically solo players aren't real?
I just had an idea, hear me out. PvE gamemode with one team tasked with killing everything in the dungeon. Wouldn't be able to leave without fully clearing the dungeon. 🤔
their own last data release put solos as the most popular gamemode by a longshot
balance around your smallest group of players, and thats all your game will have left
which is exactly what has already happened
its why theres only 6k in dungeon on a weekend
Maybe some bosses like lich should apply anti heal debuff
Nobody should have to group with others to play the game
you don't
3 years of balancing around their least popular gamemode and solos is STILL the most popular
no matter the game. if theres an option for solos then its gonna end up being the most popular. doesnt change the fact that the game was originally made around trios. they would have to completely rework balance to do have it be more around solos
god forbid they do anything but change some numbers around
purple is based on the amount of people in the room. you shouldnt be getting one shot by purple
they would have to remove skills, add new skills, massively change numbers around. it would completely kill balance off for a while. it would do alot more harm if they go fully into balancing for solos
Could just make solo specific gear. They already have the system to limit certain gear to certain modes
why limit solos though?
So you can't take gear with higher stats into duo trios
Maintain the current balancing for those
this is what happens when you fuck around for 3 years
your golden goose game is down to 4 digit player counts on a weekend because you spent 3 years changing numbers around focused on the least popular gamemode
even the changes they did make made no fucking sense
patch 69 LMFAO they never even tried to use their test server, they abandoned it after using it once
and appease the solo fanbase
then trios would be dead and hr would be useless. the entire market would be doomed
they didnt fuck around for 3 years tho? they were developing a group based pvpve game. if you think them making the game they want is "fucking around" then maybe you should go make a game where you dont "fuck around"
literally they do anything to make solos better for people that dont want to find a group in the group based pvpve game it just does way more harm then it does good
Fair

I remember when PvPvE trios was the only gamemode 🤣
i'm not hating on solos but balancing the game around solos would be a shitshow
people want to go back to that time btw :)
thats when the game was the best too
Ya
remeber the only map was crypts trios
mhm
and hell
yeah im not tryna hate on solos either. i dont play the mode myself cause i dont think its that fun but i always recommend people to try and get a group together for the game. solos is always going to be a shit show. like if they added a solos game mode to overwatch or any other character and group based game it would not go well
its a shitshow but you can get by if you know what to do. imo bard in solos is like a little duckling in a pit of snakes
tbh i think bard is one of the better solo classes
but bard is made to be a group buffer
yeah till they made half of the bard songs as solo only casts
bard has plenty of buffs for themself too tho
bard is made to do magic music damage through walls and floors, as he does
i think its good because ive been finessed by bards but rogue and barb generally just outdamage
Solos is goated
when i see a bard i dont take them seriously
what is the small tree branch that is 2x2 and uncommon called?
bard is just higher skill ceiling in solos. i think rogue and barb and fighter are just braindead easy in solos if you want to just not care

Nom nom
So full...
Mmgh
Bard seems like a wild ride on solos
Juggling through the instruments
i personally dont like bard because you basically alert the whole map that you are a bard. makes you a huge target
I'd rather be a sorcerer juggling through spells
yo why is arena fps so bad
why are my teammates the actual worst dnd players of the entire playerbase
does magic power bonus work with crystal sword?
is it a bug to get banned from the arena for leaving to soon? the match said defeat. i assumed i could leave at that point
anyone know wht the pocket watch is for?
800g on market lol
Goldsmith quest
i sure do love getting +0 rating for winning and then -85 for losing very fun ironmace
nerf reckless attack
how do u get pocket watches
They drop from Wraiths
Imps in Inferno 
wait did they make it so u can /w anyone anymore?
When patch
awesome
yes. too much of a W community too handle it
too much shit talking, you can't wisper non party/friends
L
mysterious potion drops in norms ?
No
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
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Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class @hexed adder @proud copper
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
are you ok?
I think he took an arrow to the knee
I’ve noticed the rangers will try to melee me more often now with the parrying/riposting changes + the movement changes. I think that’s a good start, but I think taking some of their power away at range might also be warranted. Hard to tell tho
I’ve heard it’s balanced assuming a 25% hit rate at range, but at higher levels they can definitely do better than that
well rangers gonna get buffed eventually so idk about that @latent iron
It would be cool to see them get more melee options at the cost of ranged power
That’s a fun archetype too
when wizard nerf
Fix Longbow
it is very easy to land 70% of all shots regardless of body or headshot
the class is genuinely too free and LITERALLY IN EVERY COMP
I wouldn’t say it’s very easy, but that’s not uncommon at higher ranks
Why don't you just block their shots
let me reclarify IF you can go positive in literally any shooter game the class is easy and if you have common knowledge on team play or decent game sense you should literally never die with a competent team
trust me, getting shot by a couple arrows is way better than dieng too 2 fireballs that you cannot dodge at all or getting combo'd by a sorc and not being able to do anything
atleast you can steer your body too dodge it
block it
Wizard use heater shield when
skill issue
yah, this guy plays wizard
YOU CAN BLOCK THE SORC the aoe from wizard is busted and needs to be nerfed tho there should be no hitscan nor aoe in this game
Not every class should have an answer to every other class. Unless they decide to strip trios and make this game just solos i guess
i can understand having a counter but when the counter can 100% make you unable to play the game there is a issue
skill issue
I already know ranger wont get nerfed anytime soon so I mean there's not much you can do unless it actually becomes busted which its not
Aren't rogues 100% countered by barbs, fighters countered by wizards and sorcs?
if i play ranger and i can comepletely make a class unable to play the game by just looking that individuals direction surely there is a issue
on rogue i can full kill anyclass in 4 stabs ?
Sounds like rogue needs a nerf i guess
and fighter literally has spell reflect
rogue does not need armor pen as a perk
while we are on the topic
remove silence from the game
Spell reflect doesn't reflect every spell nor does every fighter run it.
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its a counter tho
there is something you can attempt to do about it
What spell doesn't it reflect other than obvious AOE?
ranger there is literally nothing to do besides pray that they dont shoot your head or toes if you have a shield up or pray you can hold w faster than they can 3 tap you as you wiggle your mouse and spam a d and w
Aoe obviously. Which are most of the spells. Also it's not like the shield blocks your entire body.
The move speed for every class was drastically reduced so now i have to aim at max 305 move speed targets unless they press a button
yea but they keep casters in check which is their main role
id prefer rangers being strong
most of the spells are AOE???
than wizards/locks/sorcs
keeping them in check and making them unplayable is 2 very very different things
Nerf ranger
Now that ranger can use quiver and land more shots due to the reduction of everyone's move speed the class is able to outperform in every aspect and is over tuned for the current state of the game Adding bow sway to every bow varying on aggressiveness based on bow damage is a way to fix this
as an example having long bow sway start after having a fully drawn bow for 3 seconds this will then start moving your mouse as if you are unable to keep holding a 190lb draw on a bow indefinitely allowing for melee and range to be closer to similar in terms of balance and skill requirements to play the class
To be clear I do think ranger needs a nerf. Namely it is stupid you can hold 200 arrows in 4 inventory slots now. But saying your class should have some counter to every class is silly
this is not a hard nerf this just makes the class less unapproachable
you genuinely spend more time here then you actually play the game 😂
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ok
so, right now game is fight and barber, what was next?
Aside from maybe warlock which caster isn't running at least a few aoe spells?
fighter barb and range and ranger with a dash of wizard rogue landmine
holy deflection from ur original statement
My report numbers turned yellow
My report numbers turned blue
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My Report Numbers Turned Red
are dungeons persistent pop? or do people move lobbies as they go deeper?
SO JUST EVERYONE RANDOMLY PARRYS STUFF NOW? WOW SO SKILLFUL
About half of wizards spells have an aoe component or are just aoe. And over half of sorcs is too. And also like I said it's not like the shield covers their whole body
another deflection
you said most spells have aoe and thats a complete lie
Bonus: If you pick a spell you can't block with your staff anymore lol
get gud
I'd say about half or more is most of your spells dude
My report numbers turned yellow
ok
the rapier parry is meant to be a whole heater sheild??
if it easily covers their bottom half vs most of the weapon types that automatically makes it one of the top parry weapons
Do not diss spell reflection
but like a morningstar u cant cover a low swing to your legs/feet so the parry is basically useless
It feels like most of the weapon blocks were made in such a way that most vertical attacking weapons kinda suck now
parrying with one handers is very sketch i would not reccomend it
if i had a sword why on earth would i parry vertically
to block vertical attacks
druid😭😭😭😭son im crine😭😭😭😭
What kind of question is that?
mashallah total felling axe death
praise ironmace
god willing every barbarian will burn
Sorc time
then use it
barbs have so many good perks that the 75 mdr and knockback immunity is not considered a must take metaperk
i dont dis it i say its good my good sir
i am but i dont like being forced to play a class i dont want to
i think the point he is trying to make is that ranger is not balanced if its used so often and should be nerfed in high gear not that he doesnt like using it 🤔
if i block vertically i block horizontal attacks though
iv yet to have an issue wit ranger iv been killin them all wipe in fact im seeing very little playing ranger i think the guy might just be bad
then block horizontally
the insanity
i play solo HR i have seen 0 rangers this wipe its a arena thing or a trios thing i suppose
i only play solo also and alot of arena prolly seen maybe 4 guys on ranger
barbs n fighters are meta in solo why run anything else
Whats the class you guys wish you could team with the most on Z2H
I have decision paralysis between druid and cleric
guy just complained about every class guy just wants every class gutted and bascially just be the same class for all of them just small variations
Chivalry 2 is right there dog >>>
You CAN just go play a game where everyone has sword
tell that to mr pig i think all the classes feel fine this wipe
I like this wipe a lot
Just came back from S4? 5?
games is probably the most balanced its been
nah i played a lil of season 7
sdf gonna buff druid again prolly guy doenst like seeing the game balanced
sdf plays barb now no more druid buffs
yeah and the player count goes down too 2k concurrent when that happens
druid has been catching nothing but nerfs (thankfully)
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for a whole year+, majority of the playerbase wanted druid nerfs and it happened this season
also the playerbase and a lot of streamers came back because of that as well
Like half my play time is on druid and I can't really recommend solo druid right now unless you want to use it to run away
playerbase lower than a wipe or two ago btw
runnin n healin are druids top things
oh shit your right
Do ya'll reckon Dark and Darker takes place in the Golden Age of Piracy?
since there's pirates alive and well with fortifications and buildings?
yeah i forgot what went down in 2025
huh? people came back cuz wipe happened. that being said, this wipe has seen the lowest player count compared to every other one. devs are scuffing it hard
I always said instant shift wasn't really okay. But it was literally all they had in an offensive role
It doesn't feel like it. Last wipe felt beyond dead compared to this one imo
Nah, alternate universe, also it doesn't need to be golden age to have pirates
Yea but the pirates are clearly propsering though.
Based on the number of gold piles in the ship graveyard. I believe it
Yeah last wipe was dead really early on. Water map wasn’t even playable for a month because of fps issues
its not even about instant shift its just about how druid plays.. panther form is impossible to parry you NEED to burst dps it down before it runs away and fullheals. bear is just SO goddamn tanky and hard to hit with anything that isnt a twohander (rogue bard cleric get hit hard shit even slayer fighter) it had REALLY insane movement tech with the pcj. healing was free and VERY powerful druid could just do everything
but whatever im not gonna argue druid balance idc
Also it would lineup with the destruction of the castle in the Ruins
Like 200 years? I could see that being about the amount of destruction in the castle
i wish we had more lore
Don't we have lots of lore
When do the final quests drop?
My report numbers turned yellow
I mean most classes have burst dps, panther was basically bootleg rogue, which imo is fine, bear did have mobility with instant shift, but without it and especially with every weapon being able to block it's not nearly as threatening as it used to be, the only thing druid can really do is just disengage and heal, which is frustrating, but it's not crazy op.
The lore is this: Imagine you go to a 200+ year old castle that's completely wrecked trying to find valuables and suddenly you realize an evil curse has brought all its inhabitants back from the dead
having the ability to end fights when you want regardless of what the other guy does is pretty busted no other class really has that but yeah druid is kinda neutered now
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a druid can literally follow you and emote on you the entire raid
and choose to kill you when he wants too
what is going on with hit reg man my arrows fly straight through people every game
and if your not good at the game its gonna be the most diabolical feeling ever
Which was my entire point, i always thought instant shift probably needed a nerf but all the forms would need some good buffs to justify it or it's just a shitty cleric and here we are
druid is hard to balance
Hand Canon Ranger
Maybe. But I feel like druid never got proper development. It got stuck in development hell while they figured out how to make shapeshifting smooth, which is fair, but then they immediately dropped it and started working on sorc. Then they come back like a year later and add 1 niche form, 1 new spell, 1 new perk, and a bunch of balance changes while barely touching the atrocious hitboxes, the fact that half the forms have haha funny noise as a skill, and a lot of forms they teased just never added
I was hoping it would be closer too warcraft druid
where theres like boomkin
and they can just make things go boom
can we just add a queue to high roller man id rather wait 5 mins ina queue for a few teams then play a full dead raid on NA its actually criminal
yo can anybody craft me one of the wyvern chestplates?
I was hoping we'd have 2 perks; 1 that disables shapeshifting and gives a bunch of caster buffs and 1 that disables spellcasting and gives a bunch of shapeshifting buffs, no instant change though. And add forms like wolf and spider, fix the hitboxes, and go from there. Like how is it we can possess wolves in faustian and it's practically a fully functional, if not great, character. But chicken can't hit a player on a good day and panther bites are still 50/50s if they're bent the wrong way
i need help. i got my first named weapon from someone i killed. it was pestilence or however u spell it. i sold it for 47k on the market but i cant claim it because i dont have enough space. i have 23 gold rn. i have 1 coin bag, 8 pouches and a bunch of purses but i can only hold like 17k gold in all the coin bag things. idk what to do. i need to be able to hold 30k more gold
druid needs insta shapeshift ngl
its okay at low levels when fighting people who dont know how to play but once your trying to fight people with brains its needed
sell the bag get a new character buy 4 stashtabs fill em with pouches hold 47k easy
should take like 3 full stashtabs to do it
youll need 600 purses, or 300 pouches
Or just farm troll and spec knight and hope you can make enough spec bags within a week lol
js go play 1 raid get like 1k gold and then get a bunch of small stashes
idk how to kill bosses
^ u have to learn brother
ive been trying cave trol but i either die or hes already dead
troll drops jackshit NOTHING the fucking shitcunt has given me TWO PELTS this wipe
farm copper like real man
my buddy killed troll like 30 times and got 1 pelt
id flay him alive and he would still give me some unique mag int speed bullshit
I think I've had 3 but I rarely kill him
what can i do with copper
My report numbers turned yellow
Ngl buying pelts off deal maker seems more consistent than farming him
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Copper sells at ~900 per stack and you can get like 3 or 4 stacks per run in high roller. Or even just a stack or two from normals
Heh
who even buys copper
copper being 900 and gold being like 1000 is kinda funny to me
People who craft rings
anyone who wants rings😭😭😭
Most people, it's used to craft rings of all rarities
ohh okay
And it's so much cheaper to buy an ingredient you're out of than to just buy the ring
gotcha. ive only crafted rings once lol
i used to find them in game all the time but there like the rarest thing ever or u just cant get them in game anymore
3 phys healing on grimmies has been going kind of insane lately
only in key rooms now
Outside of key rooms you have to buy them off market, make them, or buy them off deal maker
can anyone help me kill cave troll for troll pelt?
Or i guess kill people who have them. But I don't see many people with jewelry, even in high roller
good luck bro✌️
fuckin hell every other dog i kill has like maxrolled purple courage rings
ssf was so much fun
There's one or two people I'll see with some. But by and large it's people in budget kits profit maxing
free gear🤤
i need to run a bard kit and hit like 40as 45pdr 299ms again
Be carful when going there, a lot of people are killing him for his items to make hood money
I don't really bother. I spent a night farming up the mysterious potions. Only to give into greed and sell them all so I've just been goofing off with weird builds
yo gamers, is arena ssf still? or can you get market gear now ?

whats the wooden figuren for?
Is it possible to retrieve an Epic games account that wasn't migrated in time, or is it gone for good?
on ironmace website you can ticket it
sells for like 15k
how much they go for
Thanks for letting me know.

15k each and the "bad drop" from the dreadspines are worth 1k. One of them also spawns with a demon imp so I'd occasionally get those and those are worth 3k. So I was making ~4k-15k per trip in just quest items. Not to mention whatever good gear drops I got too
What is a Dreadspine?
anyone know how long until more armorer quests drop?
I'm just gonna guess next week
later this week
My report numbers turned yellow
does anyone know how to do last phase of fire collosus?
its basically fucking impossible ive been trying it 3 days straight
1st and 2nd phase are cake
Maybe 3 wizards with icebbolts
My report numbers turned yellow
The only ways I can think of would be to stack a ton of magic healing as a warlock or depending on its hp stack a ton of damage and try to out dps
My report numbers turned yellow
simply wouldnt work
even in 3s its literally like impossible to out dps 3rd phase
Fire colossus may be the worst designed boss of all time
its not bad its the rng lava pools in 3rd phase
I think it's one of their best designed ones it's just bugged
the fact that like 8 of them spawn is cancer
on top of what seemingly feels like percentage based damage from them
It doesn't help that I can't seem to find literally any information on him at all. No hp per phase, no total hp, no weaknesses or damage types
why is ur armorer affinity locked at 50, weapon smith can go to 75 but armorer just 50. nice and broken quest great start
FR
did they get rid of the player page you used to be able to see your stats on each map and each mode
I think the people that used to do all that datamining quit
Seems so. I know the wiki is pretty dated too
Ive been running ts for 3 days no exageration, no clears we have around 2k hours each. This boss needs a third phase rework lmao
what?
Check DM's, found some info
ahh cant add you
Yeah sorry, i keep most of it blocked one sec
Interesting. I had heard he was weak to ice but I didn't know how much. I just wish you could tell how much hp he has during the last phase. It may be possible to just burst him with ice or spirit magic
My report numbers turned yellow
OPEN ARENA IMMEDIATELY AND KEEP IT OPEN
anyone willing to do warlord for me for quest?
-70% to ice
9.5k total hp in hr
Just calculate average dps and how long it takes to phase
It might be possible on a bis sorc or wizard. If we assume it has ~2500 hp per phase and you have like 80% spell power as sorc it should take 4 or 5 elemental bolts and spears. I'm not sure how damage gets split when the damage type is split, wizard could maybe do it in 10 casts of ice bolt or so. Obviously you don't have that many, but it should be low enough to finish it off with other stuff
I'm just assuming normal right now
Or you can use a consistent weapon, aim for bodyshot and add up the hits
OPEN ARENA IMMEDIATELY AND KEEP IT OPEN
Im testing it on base wiz right now just to see how many phases i can get to
without sitting etc
They you can estimate phase hp
Yeah, I'm just splitting the hp with the assumption they'd split it evenly. It feels like it is anyways
Yeah around 33%
It's still unrushable though
Too much ho and too much rng
Hp*
Phse change into third is also very short
You can probably skip a large part of phase 2 when he crouches down but third phase change is unheadshottable
You have to get lucky and have him do the lava burst attack
Yeah it would depend a lot on how unlucky you get with the lava spawns and how fast you can dump your spells. I dont suppose you know if the lava he spawns is true damage or magical
If he slams and knocks you into the arena wall ur dead to lava no matter what
It's true
And spells are not good enough
Only wiz has a spammable ice spell and it doesn't do enough damage
Sorc damage is too low
Melee with shriek is always the fastest
I'm not worried about his actual attacks. I can dodge all of them even in phase 3. It's just the lava that murders me
Bonus points with warlock debuff
It murders everyone
Even the ice damage artifacts don't help
The normal one is trivial though
Hr is impossible to do consistently even in true bis
My report numbers turned yellow
Do it.
Is there anything to use black roses on after you get the 3 bags?
nope.
thanks
anyone help me with warlord
Is there a more deterministic way to get the green rarity scroll for the huntress daily? Like a spot on some map that has a high chance to have one laying around
lions head chests. water map currently has the best density/route for them
What does it mean when my report numbers turn yellow?
Well i got it to almost phase 3 on an overload / meditate wiz in norms lol. I wanna try it with some add dam
what mode would you suggest for the best chance?
pve water map on bard/rogue with as much movespeed as you can muster. you dont need to be mighty, you just need to be faster than the other gooblers running those chests
great. thanks
there has been someone asking for this ..... SINCE they started only doing weekends ........ its because they pay for amazon servers and only pay for Arena servers on the weekends lol
bro how do we miss the mark on fire colossus two patches in a row? first he's a loot pinata, then he's fuckin impossible... when did ironmace stop playing the game?
I thought workshop was supposed ot be open now that market is
What is workshop
go to merchant tab and theres workshop it says coming soon
"Coming Soon" just like monk, gathering hall, guilds, idk 40 other things ironmace doesn't know how to implement but really really wants to
What drops mysterious potion?
Wtf do I find skeleton warlord???
Ye I know but wondering what it's going to be used for
I'm sure skill trees are just around the corner, been coming soon since playtest 2
nobody knows for sure, but given ironmace's track history of "overpromise, underdeliver" I would bet my season's earnings its where you turn bad items into arcane essence
Ah ok. Probably a few other things too.
AFTER spending 40 hours questing and turning in 30k gold worth of hunting loot/ore of course
🥱 😴
Id rather pay a fee for 24/7 arena than any of the cosmetics or other things they offer in the shop
i heard workshops are going to be similair to the workshop in the popular Hardcore Extraction game: Arc Raiders. but its probably like training, just a WIP UI box
You would think now that arena tests are over it would now be open permanently
if you dont even know where to find warlord, just ask somebody to kill it for you
cuz no way youre going to solo him
Right, why shift from test to official first ever arena season if it’s not an actual 24/7 mode still & also nothing changed they just brought mobs and old maps back. The only change that would make it different would be for it to be permanent
How about you just tell me where he is instead of being like that huh? Help your fellow man
Yup.
hes in crypts. the boss room. hes the boss on crypts. 50/50 spawn Warlord or Lich
I’ve only seen Lich. I’ll keep going down I suppose
day 3412 yet another blatantly cheating ranger on hr water map solos us east.. 31 fame 31 lvls.. doesnt miss a single shot.. watch deathcam guess what hes tracing me in rat form through walls.. still i know he will not get punished at all
oh forgot to mention his name was just a combination of 1's and I's im sure hes a totally legitimate player
wElL iF tHiS hApPeNs tO yOu aLoT yOu cAn jOiN iRoNgUaRd 🥴
why are crab shells selling for so much
i love cchungus
Ccc

noob here, whats an effective way to learn bosses?
rush them in grey gear, watch tutorial videos
I haven't played two seasons ago, is there a way to get any exclusive race/items?
wdym by exclusive?
In the shop
when did rogue get caltrops buff
no
exclusive cosmetics, by definition cannot be obtained anymore unless you fulfill certain criteria (reached pathfinder in season X for example, or if you become a warden)
ex·clu·sive
/ikˈsklo͞osiv,ekˈsklo͞osiv/
adjective
- restricted or limited to the person, group, or area concerned.
Yall think spectrals will stay at 25k for a while this wipe? Just traded a pesti for 2
artifacts always outlast gold storage (and the necessary crafting components) in value. I don't think you made a good trade
Im not too worried about that tbh
then why ask
I needed storage, and wasnt gonna use the arti
Im asking if I should sell the spectrals for gold
And buy like coin bags, or pouches
oh. ys.
Probably. If not stay higher in general. I don't think as many people are doing spectral because of no gold pile
Faiirrr
the sooner the better. fabric value isn't going up
Like it was a ranger who was gonna use the pesti, and it would sit in my stash all wipe, prolly even until after wipe ended
So, rather it get some good use
But just wondering if I should buy a bunch of gold coin pouches convert the specs into money
i hate sorcerer
its only natural. you're a fighter, yes?
of course
if you build specifically for it, you could really hurt sorcs. pdr leather slayer with adrenaline rush and breakthrough would be scary for a sorc
sorc? the class with like 6 class-exclusive mechanics? thats the class you hate? kinda wild tbh
but then you'll be mad at clerics and barbs
Anyone know arti / chest drop rates this wipe? im at ~50 wyvern kills 500-1000 pile hits. no arti, no chest
i’d be mad at every class then lol, sorc is the only thing i struggle with in pdr, even if they have mid gear it almost is way too easy for them
"Nerf paper. Scissors are fine" - Rock
absolutely
I got given a team kill penalty and ive only played solos...??? is this a bug?
have you played arena?
no
ya the game is boof, chalk it
my karma fame list is empty there arent even teams from a squire game, not that i got any team kills in those so idk
theyve come up with more unique game bugs than magic spells. its ggs
boof and goofer staple feature ^
an Ironmace Standard, if you will
if you want to play without other people, go to test server
those players have just as much right to the boss and its loot as you
and you aren't reading what I'm saying. if you want to do it without other people, go to test
isnt the test server for HTL editions only
nobody said its a tutorial. you're imposing that limitation on the mode yourself. if you want to learn the game without other people interfering, go do it on test. or you can keep whining here for nothing
no, its anyone with blacksmith
guys this is an emergency, legendary essence is up to 800 gold.. i need you all out there hunting baby turtles
♥️🇨 🇴 🇲 🇲 🇺 🇳 🇮 🇹 🇾
why did arena close down?
opens thursay night and closes sunday afternoon, my time at least
Anyone know where i can get a mysterious potion at?
dreadspine
In C:\Program Files\IRONMACE\Dark and Darker\DungeonCrawler\Binaries\Win64 Rightclick DungeonCrawler.exe Properties>Compatibility> Uncheck Run as Admin if its checked ( FIXED it for me)
Druids litterally the lamest class frfr
i dont think anyone has a good answer for it yet
I think its bugged, magic resist doesnt work or something doesnt work as intended
Did they change what named items each boss drops?
Does mysterious potion drop more in HR? is it worth running witout gear and average skill level or would norms be better?>
how much do u think i can sell a gold chest for in gold
over 100k. but if you wanna market it. then 100k
Its worth well over 100k, do not sell it for that
pulled it off gk
from pile?
ye
HR?
ye
nooo sell it for that so i can buy it :(
im not a rat. im a warlock. big difference
rat warlock
nah
with my luck Ill pull one at the end of the wipe, as it happend past 3 times
Its got to be like 1 out of every 100 or 200 that actually fight instead of taking red instantly or abyss or just running in general
How do you fight ifrit
fucking wish i could pull one. only time ive had a chest is from quests
I killed over 20 dreadspines in HR and didnt drop 1, I saw someone got 2 after 8 kills, HR
well, I guess luck means something different for everyone then lmao
what game mode and map do you play?
Mostly norms. And I prefer ice caves but ill play the others if its kinda dead. But any map. Hr, not as much. Hr people either run or crouch spam. Norms they just run or take an exit. Literally as soon as they take damage they run
Ive played PVE and HR and the people I see only want to fight lol
damn this game sucks i'm on fighter and literally can't do anything against a ranger he just outran me and pelted me with arrows across the map
ggs
may as well just start dropping him all my loot fr
Idk. Could depend on the time too. Idk why people dont fight. You could get some bis on a player that you probably wouldn't get in a chest. Plus the only way to get better at pvp is to fight alot
Sheild or dodge. You got this!
idk man i cant survive a single round in hell even in norms T-T 1.3k hours btw
damn, whats killing you?
fk this im grinding money on water map for a day to get the potions
everything xD havent played in a while so last time i went there the ghoul thingies beetles etc didnt exit
keep getting killed from random shit i didnt know existed
Just go ice caves. Not too many players. Go warlock hellfire and youll clear everything. Plus 2 easy piles and other good modules for looting
Plus its kinda cramped in inferno, not my favorite map
Ah well rn on water map i get pretty much guaranteed 2-4k every run
and i got 2 bags just today
nah grind the trees for it
you could pick some flowers and get free potions
Ahh nice. I cant play that map. Water combat is still so cancer
idki mean the mysterious potions you need for that one quest, they only drop from dreadspine and are 16k each (you need 5)
5, omg thats wild. i didn't know why people were getting it. what quest is it for??
i jjs dont fight ppl mostly. with druid you can outrun almost anything. theres some spots you can get 1-2 free gchests while skipping the pve there. i hit 5-10 chests every run +captains key pile ever 3rd game or so since the key is quite common.
theres counterplay trust
Ahh good strat.
Goldsmith last quest. unlocks legendary pendants except special ones or choker. like agi/str/vig etc
if you ever try, just bring 3 stacks of lockpicks. no less.
Sounds good!
Check your DMs real quick
Ok
qq, is the religon skin a permenant unlock?
yes
sick thankyou
anybody know how many gold coin bags a chest costs?
bag is currently 11.5k and chest is around 110-120k I believe. So around 10 bags
frrom 120-140k i'd say 140kish is the value of a chest
yea i heard they were 130k earlier and more recently 115k
thats nuts
how much cinders going for at the moment?
wild you would need 5 nipilans to buy 1 single chest
anyone even pulled a cinder since boss change?
im happy with tradeups i made
Empty chest + full bag + obsidian ore stack = catice
catice + nipalan = cinder
no shot cinder is more than a catice this wipe?
what about fulgor?
im assuming cinder is from the lava boss right
correct
@idle bramble fulgor GK, still expensive tho
i mean catice has always been one of the most expensive names and previously has been more than cinder
i saw cinders at 2 empty chest baseline
but i would understand if cinder is extremely rare this wipe
lies, I killed it and didnt drop 

Gk has so many possible artis kinda hard to target farm it
Longsword, Stiletto Dagger, Morning Star, Quarterstaff, Zweihander
good ones too
