the-tavern

[icy viper]

good to see the cheats are running rampant still. ranger in ice caves with some god mode hack. takes 0 damage spells dont even affect him they go right through him amazing ironmace truly amazing

[blissful stump]

Such as?

[coarse star]

Whirlwind, the change to jump was a complete flop. Hp roll needs to be added back.
Add back the 1 base stat they took of every piece. And make jewelry crafts less cancer/remove them

[meager steppe]

yes lets have 200hp rogues, bc thats so much better than how the game currently is.

get this man on the dev team asap

[coarse star]

You realize the game has a horrid ttk issue?

Nobody likes 2 tap ttk? Who cares if a rogue has 160 hp, everyone can have high hp so you dont just get 2 tapped?

[meager steppe]

it aint that deep, if you are referring to a barb possibly 2 tapping you maybe dont play a squishy character and learn how to kite?

[meager steppe]

game feels amazing sorry it doesnt for you

[coarse star]

Wizards are 2-3 tapping, most melees are 2-3 tapping. List goes on.

One of the biggest complaints from good players is the super low ttk.

What does removing hp rolls improve about the game?

[meager steppe]

wheres the low ttk? maybe people arnt playing their comp right, my team frys people all day, hr squire to bis kits within the hour..

[unreal gale]

If you genuinely don't see the problem with Barb atm, you are a casual at heart. ❤️

[coarse star]

You know have fast you can get 2-3 spells or hits out in? That ttk doesn’t fit a game like this.

But going off the fact you just play squire a lot of things make sense

Just denying issues with the game is strange

[meager steppe]

brings the game to a more balanced state. you can actually go in with squire to hr and walk out with a fully gemed kit, it hasnt been like that since the playtests stg.

[atomic crown]

Ur getting ragebaited Touch

[unreal gale]

Squire Barb should not be able to 2 tap squishy classes in full BIS legendaries, that's bad game design.

[meager steppe]

i start the day in squire to warm up, why are you so aguremenitive/passive aggressive? who hurt you buddy

[gritty forge]

how are we supposed to get the green ceremonial daggers?

[unreal gale]

Normals ig

[blissful stump]

Pray to the gods of luck

[meager steppe]

more like squire bard. get some skill and learn to kite.

[blissful stump]

green treasure in norms is still so hard to come across I'd say even pve

[meager steppe]

learn to kite, you must really be a casual player

[meager steppe]

pve/norms looting anything that drops treasure

[turbid elbow]

go in pve, ruins(level 1 just), as rogue with chest unlock, find just LION CHESTS, fast reset & pray

[unreal gale]

Rank 1 Ranger atm and top 2 for Kill leader both weeks. You're a rage baiter lmao.

[meager steppe]

doubt that, proof

[oak ember]

barb 2-3 taps fighters with pdr btw

[meager steppe]

if the barb gets close enough fs

[unreal gale]

It's Public in game knowledge go look at leaderboards lol?

[meager steppe]

and im supposed to know you?

get a grip

[coarse star]

When you play in squire or with no risk by only doing zero to hero you dont see many of the issues in the game.

Simple fact. I never said you couldn’t get a kit by looting a few hr games?

Going to ask this again cause this was the topic. What does removing hp rolls add/improve about the game

[coarse star]

Aka presses a single ability being anywhere near a player that hits through walls and 3 taps. And if it doesn’t kill them it puts you on top of them to then do it

[atomic crown]

Give ranger 45longbow base pls

[meager steppe]

it brings balance to the game, it makes it so every class cant be a tank and face tank everythign, simple answer, now will you just deflect this response liek i said nothing

[south walrus]

mans was tellin the truth fwiw

[frozen juniper]

Can I help you?

[meager steppe]

and again, i play like 2 games of "02h" and within those 2 games im geared up not from looting, from killing, get some skill and maybe you will realize you are the problem not the game.

[meager steppe]

a random nobody saying to look at the leaderboard like i know who he is, so again i doubt that

[coarse star]

How does it bring balance?

Everyone is stacking hp, a barb will still have the most hp, a wiz and rogue will still have the least.

Having a base hp of 100 and adding 20 max hp gives you 120 just like having 140 base and adding 20 gives you 160.

As you get more gear you get more damage and attack speed, would it not make sense to also be tanky? This way the ttk stays relatively similar.

Saying every class can face tank everything by stacking hp shows how little you understand

[unreal gale]

I mean you can just look lmao.

[coarse star]

If you want to judge my skill feel free to check out my yt or twitch streams.

I have 4k hours of playing this game where I consistently play at the top level and win vs top teams.

I enjoy this game, doesn’t mean there aren’t big issues with it?

[unreal gale]

Touch he's ragebaiting bro, or he's just perma casual

[meager steppe]

How does it bring balance?
stops people from being tanks when they are not tanks.
Everyone is stacking hp, a barb will still have the most hp, a wiz and rogue will still have the least.
pre patch rogues and wizs could get up to 200 hp and not lose much damage in doing so

[coarse star]

Likely a casual but its a way to pass the time

[unreal gale]

True haha.

Love the vids btw @coarse star 👍

[atomic crown]

ANW u all guys are in NA skill is terrible there

[meager steppe]

@coarse star
As you get more gear you get more damage and attack speed, would it not make sense to also be tanky? This way the ttk stays relatively similar.
the point in choosing stats is to pick or choose, you cant be a tank, move at max move speed and hit like a truck and expect that be balanced ? bc you know damn well people will still complain about that, this game has turned into who can cry the most and sir you are def winning at that

[coarse star]

See this shows you never played this game at high gear.

You are throwing numbers out of nowhere. No rogue or wiz was getting 200 hp last wipe.

I ran multiple full perfect roll unique ranger kits. My highest hp was 165.

Ran some full unique cinder warlock kits, highest hp was maybe 175 with 3 all shards.

There is proof of all of this on my YouTube channel.

[coarse star]

Glad you like them <3

[meager steppe]

do i need to keep responding point by point just for you to deflect anything i say

mans trying to turn this into a echo chamber geez

[olive torrent]

I will say the highest rouge I saw last season was 178hp with huge dps as well, not 200hp but still fairly chunk

[coarse star]

Again shows your little knowledge of last wipes gear.

You couldn’t pick all 3, and still can’t? I dont understand what I am crying about.

I said this wipes patch was good but there is some things that need fixing.

You asked what they were, and i said what I thought.

You then talked about how they should bring back hp because of 200 hp rogues(which didn’t exist)

It seems like you are the one crying

[unreal gale]

@meager steppe I have a question for you really quick, what is the Downside of Barb.

[meager steppe]

barb brain

[unreal gale]

Actual based answer I ain't gonna cap

[south walrus]

getting pelted by ranged damage

[blissful stump]

I asked what were there actually but I'm not exactly arguing with you right now lol I'm killing wyvern

[coarse star]

Yeah 178 was around the top without having no other stats.

[coarse star]

Oh was it you that asked, my bad.

Hope you pull a named :)

[olive torrent]

Man surprised us when he survived more than 5 head shots with a longsword xd

[blissful stump]

Nah I got a good unique mystic vestments with 6% magical damage bonus tho

[dreamy vine]

hear eu is dead

[summer lion]

This is also a lie tho rogue could get 180 hp still hitting decent action speed and phys power

[meager steppe]

see everyone is so defensive in this chat and yall dont actually understand anything any says, not once did i say barb was a weak class and he needs to be buffed. im saying this is the most balanced dark and darker has been in a while, and yet people still complain. just enjoy the damn game and stop the crying. yall are grown men act like it.

[atomic crown]

true

[blissful stump]

eu ice caves is dead but crypts is just full of juicers ready to counter you doing anything

[olive torrent]

Keep hearing the game is dead yet ppl play... Don't listen to them

[meager steppe]

W

[coarse star]

If you could provide me a screenshot of that I would agree but personally never saw that.

And made a ton of turbo full unique kits and never hit that

[atomic crown]

Game is dead

[meager steppe]

perspective

[olive torrent]

I wish I had the video of that 178hp rouge xd

[atomic crown]

The same grown man playing since 5 wype

no new player

[olive torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/well-then-go-eric-matthews-daniel-matthews-saw2-then-leave-gif-22083013

[coarse star]

People are allowed to suggest stuff to make the game better. Thats what I did.

You were getting mad about “200 hp rogues” being back if they added hp.(they never existed in the first place)

[meager steppe]

doesnt help the playerbase is as toxic as acid thanks for adding to it 😄

[atomic crown]

I'm still enjoying the game but in arena there is the same 40 guys i play till 5 wype

[coarse star]

10k concurrent=/ dead, l rage bait

[dawn mist]

🤝

[atomic crown]

We need more EU streamer they're all gone

[coarse star]

Nobody is playing arena currently, especially not enough to be high rank. And when you hit higher elo your queue times become super long.

[dawn mist]

Agree

[grim current]

hi is anyone else having issues with the goblin merchant?

io cant get my stuff back

[meager steppe]

start streaming

[olive torrent]

If there were rewards for arena more people would play

[dreamy vine]

tank rogue was pretty busted

[olive torrent]

That's not a thing now

[coarse star]

Only works in pve mode currently.

Once quests for goblin come out it will work in all modes based on affinity

[coarse star]

Yeah arena rewards are happening this wipe, so when that starts it will be popping

[olive torrent]

We think they are, there's no guarentee the said they would aim for this wipe

[grim current]

i died in pve like 20 min ago but me kit aint comin back, is it supposed to be longer?

[olive torrent]

But it still could be next season

[meager steppe]

just play highroller and you wont have to worry about that 😄

[grim current]

very true nvm XD

[meager steppe]

try reloading you character tho that might help

like switch to a dif then switch back

[olive torrent]

If you've started a new match you won't get it back ad it resets

[atomic crown]

did 20 min of queue this sunday that's sad

[dusty marten]

guys were can i find gold ore its used to be ruins but i cant find any

[meager steppe]

goblin caves, you have to kill cyclops and cave troll

[cursive rock]

Killing both goblin cave boss

[olive torrent]

Can spawn on golom, but mainly in middle room of gobby caves after killing both bosses

[dusty marten]

good luck to me then i cant kill bosses thanks

[blissful stump]

easiest strat for free gold, not a lot but free is just high regular interaction speed bard, kill one boss then just wait until the other is killed, rush middle and mine all the gold before they can get there

[coarse star]

People are playing dungeon the main game? There is like 5 simple explanations for why you aren’t getting fast queues.

And its not that “games dead” has 10-15k concurrent. That’s easily top 100 steam games rn

[atomic schooner]

You can normally find people who can do the bosses for you

[unreal gale]

Also Rogue does no damage with True gone, I'm ranger and haven't been worried a single time, as a squishy

[atomic crown]

In EU*

[meager steppe]

want to run some goblin caves i can kill themn for you

[olive torrent]

Yeah me and then I wonder where my golds at xd

[blissful stump]

Top 100 really? There's hundreds of games that are super popular maybe top 200?

[dusty marten]

i am down for that

[meager steppe]

korean gathering hall

[atomic schooner]

Its in the stash of the hide rogue that cant do shit but rat for loot

[icy viper]

two matches of ice caves, Two cheaters running invunerability. its amazing. they dont even hide it. they stand there and cop 20 hits to the head.

[vale echo]

You can also have it spawn on the dealmaker merchant for 3 coins, thats how I got mine 👍

[blissful stump]

Damn I aint run into that, are you on eu?

[olive torrent]

That's not a nice thing to say about HeWhoRats, He's a knight commander you know xd

[coarse star]

You can check steam list, if you look for 10-15k you will see thats in top 100.

Gotta remember that not everyone dnd players is on steam

[coarse star]

Are you in pve mode

[icy viper]

nah man OCE, they just hit gold pile. he kept looting it like didnt even care i was wailing on him. it was like i didnt exist. same thing in two diff matches

[dreamy vine]

Love how bard gets to be best bosser just waking up with a flute

[uneven fulcrum]

W

[blissful stump]

That was more just general curiosity rather than opposing your statement, but fair enough i didn't think 10-15k would be top hundo

[icy viper]

nah mate in normals. ive been around since playtest 2. ive seen some wild cheating but this is next level. spells go righ through them aswell they arent affected by them

[atomic schooner]

Lol. Tho he does play ranger. One of the best rangers ive played with, very good at having good target focus

[coarse star]

Yeah you are in pve mode lol

[olive torrent]

U got the recording?

[atomic schooner]

Get a clip of next time it happens and loom for a green shield buff

[olive torrent]

Yeah I'd hate to run into him in dungeon xd

[icy viper]

yep

[dreamy vine]

Clip and to report website

[latent forum]

anyone know what names you can get off of bladehand?

[blissful stump]

Lemme see i'm actually curious

[coarse star]

Yeah your good. Surprisingly not a ton of super popular games currently.

At least when it comes to multiplayer not a ton of good games are out imo

[cursive rock]

shields

[olive torrent]

Same

[coarse star]

Same

[dreamy vine]

Many people playing fallout because the show ended s2

[olive torrent]

It just works

[atomic schooner]

The fallout games are meh. Idk why people like them so much

[hoary plinth]

why is dwarf -10 move speed, in a game that revoles arounf ms wtf is this

[olive torrent]

F3 And new Vegas are the best

[coarse star]

Because it has a smaller hitbox

[dreamy vine]

Once market drops and people run broken pdr uniques half these arguments will be about full pdr classes

[olive torrent]

-10 is too much though it makes it a useless asking with no benefit

[atomic schooner]

Would much rather get another 1k hrs in terraria then play those

[hoary plinth]

agreed

[dreamy vine]

Fallout 2 i hear is a masterpiece. Of course the rest are rpg with Vegas having the best story

[latent forum]

all sheilds?

[atomic schooner]

The benefit is that its a funny meme skin that the community has been begging to have for a while

[cursive rock]

yup

[atomic schooner]

Ive watched videos of it. Tge story just seems meh

[hoary plinth]

meme skins are stupid especially costing 12 red or blue stones

[dreamy vine]

The game was rigged from the start

[olive torrent]

Not a benefit,, easier to headshot them, catch them, if it hadv-4 ms but gavec15% regular interact it might be used more

[dreamy vine]

If you play one do f2 it's nothing like the later renditions

[twin fable]

This is how balancing works though. Look at the MOBA genre (balance patches every 2 weeks)

[atomic schooner]

Nah i like using it. Makes shields cover more

[atomic schooner]

Its a cosmetic. Its gonna cost money

[twin fable]

Are you feeling lucky??

[daring field]

Its hard to trust but i remember when in old dark ages when the semi semi wipe were,where the cleric troll cheese,and the patches was more and 2 weeks

[olive torrent]

Shield size changes to match the new size of your charecter tho

It's why the lycan skin pavise looks huge

[atomic schooner]

I dont think it does? Buckler looks normal on other skins but on the dwarf it looks massive

[little breach]

how does it look from your perspective tho

[olive torrent]

Defiantly changes because I thought the same

[atomic schooner]

Am out right now but ill test it when i get back

[olive torrent]

When I get home we can jump into a match and do a side by side if u want

[olive torrent]

I'll be back about 2pm GMT, ping me on the Knights chat if your available around then

[formal otter]

This wipe I am cursed. ~40 wraiths for 3 bellow. ~40 cockatrice for egg. ~30 imps for 1 pair of broken glasses. Lvl 112 and only 1 green ceremonial.

[olive torrent]

200 spectral knights = 10 fabric and 35 blades, 100 troll kills 8 pelts......

[timid hollow]

Are all chests the same loot tables or are some better for gear etc?

[atomic schooner]

👍

[past sierra]

Yep. -10 is to harsh just for a 'smaller hitbox' that makes it more likely you get hit in the head.

[olive torrent]

This xd

[drifting scaffold]

somewhat disagree considering they are smaller AND have the ability to twist around like a normal height character

[tiny elbow]

dwarf skin in solo = trolling, dwarf skin in trio = not that bad

[fading oyster]

Quick question, does heavy weapons barb.perk work? Cant see debuffs

[cunning ore]

It's terrible, its a meme skin but brings nothing of value.

[fading oyster]

Dwarf should have -5 move speed and no alchol effects. Ahahah

[cunning ore]

It should - yea.

[olive torrent]

Add 10% regular interact as well and you got a deal

[pseudo knoll]

defending, i can kill wyvern all day long but can’t stay alive vs players for shit lol

[pseudo knoll]

my friend suggested trying to see if dwarf can crouch under warlords crystal lasers. bout the only niche i can see for it lol

[olive torrent]

I'll give that a test later

[twin fable]

Bro sounds like a ranger player

[warm fable]

❤️

[zinc laurel]

This game is pretty much dead in a few months if those devs continue to make the game w m1 and stat checker thing. Having gear should give an advantage, but this is W + m1 stat checkers for too long.

[cunning ore]

Yep.

People who called this a skill based game, really have no clue what an actual skill based game is, lol.

All HR boils down to do is sitting on enemy holding MOUSE1 and hoping you did your maths correctly.

[zinc laurel]

Stat checking gives the illusion of it, specially if you are not successfull in games in general

I don't know why devs continue to go this way, this makes the game boring and will only retain people that just can't do anything else than W m1 stat check

[cunning ore]

This, compared to Quake or Unreal Tournament or any Super Smash or something is like a slow motion Daggerfall.

[drifting scaffold]

why solos is inferior reason #400

[misty ridge]

I like Overwatch :]

Though I have no clue how skill expressive it is

[cunning ore]

Only problem I have with Overwatch is that its class-based and team-based.

I only take 1:1 map-based odds games, that's real skill display - everything else is just meh.

[drifting scaffold]

so the only problem is the whole style of game 😅

[olive torrent]

Another naysayer, clear off if you think it's a dead game

[cursive rock]

there is a thing called kiting idk if u heard about but if u die to w+m1 isnt because the game stat check is just because u choose to stat check by w+m1 too

[drifting scaffold]

I’m fuckin dying rn wtf 😂😂😂

[cunning ore]

There is no kitting in this game, its just a MS stat check, lol.

All the skill expression of kitting was taken away this patch - all that's left is who has higher MS and presses W the longest.

[atomic schooner]

"the only problem with league of legends is that its a team based hero moba"

[sturdy oriole]

where can i get gold ore?

[olive torrent]

Laughs in warlock

[cunning ore]

What's the kite on warlock, press W and Q. What's the skill - two buttons lol.

[atomic schooner]

guess wizard, rogue, ranger, sorc, warlock and bard dont exist

[olive torrent]

You said there's no kiting.....

[atomic schooner]

the skill is not getting caught and knowing how to position yourself into getting an advantage :)

[olive torrent]

This

Capitalise on the enemies mistakes

[cunning ore]

Exist what, what does Wizard, Rogue, Ranger, or any class in this game kite, lol. All you're doing is pressing W and MS stat checking lol.

"Knowing the position" is just basic game. Very, very basic.

[olive torrent]

If you get kitted that's your fault for falling for it, play smarter

[atomic schooner]

you do realise that someone who is wearing more tanky armour wont keep up with someone who is in cloth right? thats literally how movespeed in this game works. the heavier and tankier things slow you down more then cloth things

[drifting scaffold]

acting like getting w keyed is a new experience is crazy

[atomic schooner]

well yeah. its almost like most of the skill is this game is knowing your own build and weapons and using those to take advantage of weak points in other people builds and weapons. kiting is only a part of it

[olive torrent]

I typically play wall fighter with spell reflect for dealing with casters I'm a pun to deal with so half the time they don't bother

[fading oyster]

Cant we all block attacks now? Makes It more skillful

[olive torrent]

If they get close though it's over for thrm

[cunning ore]

A real skill based game, its if you played a character with 1200 ms.

Atleast 4 or 5 times faster movement speed.

[atomic schooner]

so you just want to play titan fall and call of duty?

[cunning ore]

"Kiting" in this game you can leave the keyboard, go make a coffee, come back and you're still in range.

[fading oyster]

Tribes Is skill based

[drifting scaffold]

adhd gamers be like

[olive torrent]

Fox is rage baiting now

[cunning ore]

I'm not, this is like, garbo skill needed compared to anything early 2000.

[cursive rock]

ok grandpa

[cunning ore]

You're the one playing grandpa-skill level games.

[atomic schooner]

damn. your ancient

[cunning ore]

I am.

[summer lion]

<@&988703997378584596> yo look in dnd fanart and screenshots another mrbeast scammer but i cant post in those channels cuz of slowmode lol

[drifting scaffold]

I’m giggling man this is gotta be troll hahahahhaha

[atomic schooner]

everyone is a troll if you believe hard enough

[olive torrent]

Troll skin confirmed?

[cunning ore]

"Kiting is skill-based" "Attacks in this game are skill based" Ahahahahah. Meme.

[drifting scaffold]

cyclops drops his loincloth why can’t we get troll chain skirt

[cunning ore]

I think even Oblivion might have been faster paced than this.

[drifting scaffold]

alright grandpa time for bed the kids are gonna talk about dragging now

[atomic schooner]

that would be interesting lol. makes you extra tanky and you become a bit larger then the demon form. just a half-troll skin

smol troll boss

[olive torrent]

Baby troll

[atomic schooner]

[misty ridge]

Isn't the Troll's codpiece just a bigger buckler?

[drifting scaffold]

Big Buckler "Don't ask..."

[misty ridge]

The tavern lobby table is a round shield

[drifting scaffold]

always funny. it's a rare one too

[fallen crypt]

yeah fox is mega troll just roll with it

[cunning ore]

Am I, what's troll about me saying this game is slow-mo laughable.

U mad cuz ur feelings got hurt that you thought this was skill-based - when you're playing a game where your sprint MS is the equivalent of holding SHIFT in any other game?

u can walk faster in half life pressing shift the entire game

[drifting scaffold]

bro's nostalgic for a time when mouse still had a ball in it

i bet you did clear out quake lobbies, all you needed was a laser mouse

[cunning ore]

intelli mouse 3.0

[drifting scaffold]

it's like comparing dark souls to ninja gaiden and saying one is better because it's faster

if faster = better we'd all be playing sonic the hedgehog

[surreal cove]

guys do lifts in gcaves still come down @ same times?

[cunning ore]

its about the number of inputs p/ action

[drifting scaffold]

no, it's really not

[cunning ore]

it - really is lol, thats pretty much it

[drifting scaffold]

you can put in a huge amount of inputs in this game and get different results, you just don't want to 🤣

[cunning ore]

how much micro you can control the in shortest time possible

[drifting scaffold]

creativity is lacking i'm afraid

[cunning ore]

you can't put any inputs in this game lol

[drifting scaffold]

this game is full of micro wtf you mean

[fallen crypt]

i’m not mad i just enjoy sending you off on you tangents

[drifting scaffold]

literally every mouse movement is micro 🤣 🤣

[cunning ore]

even a swing animation in this game, is 10 actions in a real game

[fallen crypt]

it’s like a show dog doing tricks on command

[drifting scaffold]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[fallen crypt]

pretty fun!

speak dog!

[slate hawk]

Bark

[fallen crypt]

now sit!

[cunning ore]

Aint my issue u guys playing a game where S get's you slowed, lel

"skill"

[slate hawk]

🐕‍🦺

[drifting scaffold]

so fox naturally you're gladiator in wow pvp too right?

[fallen crypt]

okay now your turn do me

[cunning ore]

I am

lel

[drifting scaffold]

but that game slows you with S key so

[slate hawk]

Say the nicest thing about the game!

[fallen crypt]

He’s also a ranger qualified long tabbed combat infantryman

[fallen crypt]

you can kill elves

[cunning ore]

yeah except in a melee swing in this game I do 3 cooldowns in wow, lel

[fallen crypt]

which is always fun

goddamn knife ears

[drifting scaffold]

spamming the same key 3 times doesn't count bud

[cunning ore]

my rotation has 17 buttons

here, u press 2

[drifting scaffold]

you haven't played prepatch i guess

[fallen crypt]

sorry buckaroo fox is built different and presses 17 buttons

[cunning ore]

i dont play garbo live wow anymore, they dumbed down the game to casuals

[drifting scaffold]

🤣

[misty ridge]

Skeleton Warlord is a dope ass boss and I love his voice lines

Shame he's lost his things and Ghost King stole them

[fallen crypt]

wow you must be a mlg pro! how much does your team pay you!

[drifting scaffold]

surely you pushed high mythic keys before saying this, right?

[cunning ore]

y

[fallen crypt]

i have replaced all of foxs skill with a 1 rotation macro button

[drifting scaffold]

of course. and you're a cal open winner too right

[fallen crypt]

get outsourced 😎

[tiny elbow]

Alot of games can copy the style of gameplay, but DaD has something that keeps me coming back. All extraction games i play lead back to Dark and Darker. Great mob/monster design

[drifting scaffold]

but getting W keyed in dark and darker?? way too much brainpower ...

[tiny elbow]

awaken soldiers of bone

[cunning ore]

When I started this game it still have some level of skill

[little breach]

what does the fox say?

[cunning ore]

now its just casualfest

[little breach]

now its just casualfest

[misty ridge]

Rise, my legions

[slate hawk]

Yeah, this last patch's added voice lines were a welcome surprise

[little breach]

to me my legion

[misty ridge]

Not even this hotfix, been that way since wipe

[cunning ore]

lets "equalize" the movment for everyone. aka - let's cater the game to casuals - so people don't cry that others are doing actions midjump and micro'ing ms reduction

[slate hawk]

sorry, yes. This last season patch's *

[little breach]

sounds ai ish but theyre so cool idgaf

[atomic schooner]

the warlord has voicelines?????? maybe i shouldnt be blasting music when im boss farming

[cunning ore]

cuz we dont want the game to look like surf - "skill" - lel

[tiny elbow]

tear them apart

[cunning ore]

oh, no, people are bhopping - lets cater to the crying - and u call this skill based haha - this is as casual as u can get a mobile game

[drifting scaffold]

clueless? trolling? just an old man 🧓

[olive torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-more-cry-baby-dani-carvajal-dani-carvajal-espana-dani-carvajal-cry-more-gif-1094182097927943704

[cunning ore]

ur the one crying bro lol - I didnt got half the game mechanics removed.

[drifting scaffold]

not even old honestly saying things like "lel" just places him around an older millenial... idk man go to /v/ board or smth

[cunning ore]

What's next patch?

Gonna remove jumping completely from the game too?

[tiny elbow]

are u the same guy that said he can do Wyvern with your eyes closed but as soon as you get into any pvp you get put down like a dog?

[atomic schooner]

something else to piss u off

[misty ridge]

He needs lines for his lasers in high roller

[olive torrent]

All your doing is moaning like a casual, grow up and deal with it sir

[drifting scaffold]

🤣

[misty ridge]

Could be something simple as "There's no escape"

[tiny elbow]

it should be something directed to the player for sure

[misty ridge]

The whole point of them is to limit player movement and make the arena smaller

[tiny elbow]

GK is the king of the castle, Warlord the loyal general, Lich the royal family physician, Spectral Knight one of many loyal soliders to the Walord/GK, Banshee Queen/Princess corrupted by whatever is going on at the castle?

[quiet lagoon]

I remember having to have the items with you in order to summon the boss itself a few patches ago, animations were sick but I guess they reverted that change

[misty ridge]

Spectral Knight is 100% not aligned with the castle. Definitely part of the siege that left it in Ruin; Warlord killed him and Lich bound his soul

[scenic dawn]

yo whos the 2 clerics teaming in hr killing the bosses in solos, you guys got out of raid before i could report u

[misty ridge]

Source: I made it up, and it sounds cooler

[olive torrent]

U got it recorded?

[scenic dawn]

nah rip :((

[tiny elbow]

👀

[olive torrent]

Use medal, it's a life saver

[atomic schooner]

nah spec knight is clearly the left over souls and mana of the knights defending the place

[misty ridge]

Those are the living armor.

[olive torrent]

Banshee is just a angry lady probably called Karen

[atomic schooner]

yeah. its all left over. cant all go into spec knight

[tiny elbow]

Just like @cunning ore lol

[misty ridge]

Banshee is the Leathersmith's daughter

[atomic schooner]

well the banshee does scream alot and is extremely annoying

[olive torrent]

Complaining to the ghost king about unfair working conditions xd

[cunning ore]

mad cuz low skilled bro

[misty ridge]

Don't target insults at others please

[olive torrent]

Need to be telling that to fox, all he's done is moan for the past 30 mins honestly

[tiny elbow]

🙏 😢

[misty ridge]

I will look into it but now I ask all sides of this to move on

[olive torrent]

[olive torrent]

I still wish banshee fight gets redisened

[misty ridge]

Cave Troll is the goblin's beloved pet they raised there since birth

[undone haven]

region lock when?

[atomic schooner]

would be nice. but i can already kill it fast on warlock now and dont wanna relearn itlol

[tiny elbow]

Did the GK recruit a new army in the form of Demons?

[scenic dawn]

they tried it before and then removed it rip

[misty ridge]

I'm pretty sure Inferno is just literally hell

[undone haven]

oh yea, SDFs army of rmt'ers got mad they couldnt play on NA so he rolled it back rip

[manic birch]

really happy this game still has an issue with teaming chinese players in HR

[atomic schooner]

report them then :)

[manic birch]

we both know theyre gonna get a 1 day ban if even and then go right back to it

sdf is so scared of losing the entire playerbase people need to be temp banned 10 times before permas roll out

[misty ridge]

I wish more bosses had wakeup animations like Bladehand

[slate hawk]

Have you looked into applying for IRONGUARD? #📢community-announcements message

[misty ridge]

Ghost King should descend from the sky like the DaD Mobile Trailer

[slate hawk]

"Welcome to my realm ..."

[misty ridge]

And in HR there should be a 10% chance he starts the fight with jump.

Like immediately from the ceiling

[late sorrel]

NERF WARLOCKS ... tf is this 1 hit full hp

[atomic schooner]

heh. halberd go swing

[late sorrel]

0 logic healing 30 hp with each hit xd

[atomic schooner]

on warlock its impossible to one shot someone and heal alot of hp at the same time :)

[late sorrel]

yeah still they dont die in 1 to 1 battle with demon

[atomic schooner]

they do when you play right :)

[valid otter]

Barb main mad,coz lock don't die from ww? So you don't know what to do.

[late sorrel]

nah not barb im not a kid playing barb or demon

[late sorrel]

i play fighter - rogue

there just no reason of demon healing 20-30 hp each hit

[runic skiff]

quarterstaff barb kinda yucky

[atomic schooner]

fun fact. demonlock healing is capped at 20 hp and its based off of your max hp. 10% max hp of the enemy capped at 20 hp :)

[valid otter]

Wow a fighter? The max pdr guy? Why you call someone kid when they just enjoy the class? Rogue kill lock easy,just kite him. Lock heal 10% of max hp of the target. He cant heal 20 if you git 120 hp

[late sorrel]

not even max pdr guy i play light

[atomic schooner]

on average against most people lock will only be healing like 15 when they have vamp. in high gear. in low gear its even less

[late sorrel]

i was high gear kite him like 2 minutes they dont lose hp whne they are demon and just running?

[atomic schooner]

its 2% max hp per second

[cunning ore]

they lose hp in real life

[valid otter]

So you cant just kite with bow? He use demon, you just kite him and shoot and he dead

[atomic schooner]

or 1%. cant remember and cba to check

[late sorrel]

i kite him with bow man he was hitting mobs and just heal

u main demon or what?

[atomic schooner]

if hes healing off of mobs while chasing you then hes a bad demonlock. hes wasted exploitation strike

[valid otter]

he got big cd on that skill, so just wait till the skill wear off and kill him

[cunning ore]

just barb and press W & mouse 1

[zinc laurel]

Litterally i dont cross people in HR what do you mean. Have you been playin before the official release ? You couldnt go through 2 modules without encountering at least 2 or 3 people. I'm sorry that the numbers are hurting you so much, but that is just facts. People lie, numbers dont.

[valid otter]

But what do if they dont after my whirlwind?

[cunning ore]

press m1 to win

[atomic schooner]

if thats what works for you then you stick with that :)

[cunning ore]

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/m5CYAe5ffZANY-Y5e?invite=cr-MSxZOW0sMTc2OTQyODE1

idk whos that, but i leled

[valid otter]

No, i play barb to kill with one skill, why they making barb complicated like sorc. whirlwind need buff

[cunning ore]

ahahaha man i laugh every time i watch this shit

the beep at the end

[valid otter]

That why we need remove hide from game,unfair skill and kill all fun from the game.

[zinc laurel]

Tbf that rogue was camping like a b in the first place, but yeah, this is disgusting

[valid otter]

What else can rogue do? They removed everything - throw daggers nerf,true dmg nerfs,double jump useless.

[bleak coyote]

rogueing without backstab. This man is a disgrace to us rats

[zinc laurel]

Change perk, deal damage with handcrossbow before all in ?

[valid otter]

Remove disarm from fighter and give it to rogue

[hybrid sequoia]

daily reminder that pommel strike removes DP, Smite, Adrenaline and whirlwind among many other things

[valid otter]

Then its better to play ranger at this point, why give hide to rogue if he must use xbow to even have chance to win.

[cunning ore]

why all these wasted resources to fixing anything, just play barb and same some developer time

everybody wins, u can 1 tap, they can save money

[fallen crypt]

genuinely what will that even do man

i don’t wannah doomer but

[hybrid sequoia]

hot take - a squish ambush class is not supposed to take on melee powerhouse classes with highest HP and/or PDR

[valid otter]

Also why barb parry so fast with 2h weapon? He swing faster than rogue with dagger

[hybrid sequoia]

go hunt some wizards with cutthroat

[zinc laurel]

In the first place why those devs are still min maxing every single update. Few years ago i could get it, they were trying things, but still today is the same shit. They have a test server and they dont use it !

[cunning ore]

Thats true, but it's supposed in the sense you would slowly lose the trade, not getting 1 shot.

[slate hawk]

The purpose seems to be that IRONGUARD member's reports are actioned much faster (prioritized) and can probably issue a ban within moments of a cheating being confirmed.

[drifting scaffold]

yea update the test server so 100 people can play it and give minimal feedback 🙁

[valid otter]

Rogue got hide, so they must give rogue some poison strike that paralyze or slow your attack speed. Rogue got armor pen, so they designed to kill fast and even fighters.

[bleak coyote]

because everyone hates the changes so stopped playing the testserver. Making it useless
it's almost like they don't get the hint

[zinc laurel]

Then the solution is simple, stop paying for a test server and just stop min maxing like a pig ?

[hybrid sequoia]

reckless str and headshot dmg stacked barb will one tap anyone who isn't maxed out PDR fighter

[fallen crypt]

Well I hope it works out… they way they don’t even use the trubador programs feedback i’m not sure if i have much faith in whatever this is gonna be

[cunning ore]

Yeah but thats just shit design. If you're going into a HP/Def class you lose in trades by a low-hitting them and they low-hitting you but making the difference in HP.

Not just doing ludicrous more DPS than you.

[drifting scaffold]

that's how armor works you trade survivability

[zinc laurel]

Got it, but who cares if people dont like changes, this community is litterally bad overall compared to real competitive game players. Devs should just do what they want the game to be and stop listening to what people are whinning about

[cunning ore]

There isnt a single succesful game where the tank class 1 shots you

[valid otter]

So what the poin of rogue? Barb do more dmg and have more hp, fighter can heal up and tank alot of dmg and outdps rogue. SO rogue is just low dmg low hp, what advantage he got in melee? kill mages?

[cunning ore]

You put glasscannon mechanics in a tank class, now all of a sudden you don't have the glass part anymore and you have just a plain cannon.

[bleak coyote]

while "we' are most certain a toxit pit. I feel the biggest issue was (and still is) the constant flip flopping around. Even the current stat nerf with 1 roll uniques and no all. Lower base stas. They tried it, multiple times. And for sure they will reverse it before season is over. It be fine it they changed things following a vision, but they don't. They just throw a coin every 2 months.

people are just tired boss

[cunning ore]

did I hear SDF reverting changes

its okay though, next season rogue goes back to season 1

5s cd on CT and 50% on ambush

[fallen crypt]

hey fox can you remind me which season you were #1 on arena or hr leaderboard? forgot again

[valid otter]

They will rework rogue so they can steal your money from game stash directly with % to steal coin chest.

[cunning ore]

the arena of i never wasted time with this game

[fallen crypt]

gotcha thanks for your perspective

[foggy topaz]

im yet to see a single mimic tounge.

[cunning ore]

go to mimic's lair

u got like 10 mimics there

[scenic dawn]

thought it was 1 now

[zinc laurel]

First of all, there litterally too much queues. This makes the game state even worse.
Secondly, why those devs arent changing the maps that are not successfull ? Ice map is litterally bad and barely anyone is playing it.
Third, Water map, the idea is cool, but damn, it is clunky as hell. + There is litterally a Spawn with a shark attacking you the second youre in the game like come on.
4th, How is it that some class are just abandonned behind ? Why would you push an update with fighter and barb new skills but the other class have none ? Would have been smarter to just wait until every class has something and release the big update later.
5th Cleric needs a nerf since the release. How is it that this class can so much damage, tank like hell, HEALS and still has no drawback.

[neon brook]

Arena and HR leaderboard are irrelevant to being able to express opinions on the game

[royal grove]

#1 on leaderboard just means you have no life

[slate hawk]

I think that the cleric's drawbacks is that it doesn't have much access to range.
Thrown drums and 3 spells for ranged damage

[cursive rock]

i think u right , it was buffed last season

[neon brook]

Yeah that other dude clearly is a tool lol

[zinc laurel]

If you think being #1 on leaderboard in this game is relevant you clearly dont understand a single thing about this game and its state.

[hybrid sequoia]

solos always had RPS design, only delusional and EXTREMELY geared and skilled people believe they can win against all classes and builds

[bleak coyote]

you can sling rocks this season

[fallen crypt]

That was my point

bro was claiming his opnion meant more because he was a top 1% WoW pvp’er

hence the heavy and extreme sarcasm

which ya hard to convey via text

[zinc laurel]

it has litterally AOE spells and there's only 2 class that can go melee on him and it's not even a guaranteed win

[neon brook]

WoW PvP is cheeks lol

[fallen crypt]

i don’t know anything about it i’ve only played a little final fantasy and elder scrolls online

mmos are not somthin i got into much

[hybrid sequoia]

if a cleric casts spells, its not a melee powerhouse, pommel fighter dispells smite and DP instantly, and you can just bait and run away for 6 seconds to auto-win against bonk cleric

[fallen crypt]

I think your average fighter will beat your average cleric pretty easy

but a good cleric is cookin a good fighter

[zinc laurel]

Still, do you really think that cleric is fine in the meta for the past 2 years ?

[next junco]

any1 have fix for fps drop

[atomic schooner]

lower your graphics settings

[next junco]

wow i haven't tried that

anyone that actually has a recommendation

[atomic schooner]

swap dx version

[next junco]

anything ingame settings i've tried

the new patch is booboo da fuu fuu

[hybrid sequoia]

by meta you mean solos? duos? trios? arena? premades? random team mates? cleric meta changed multiple times over last year and a half, mostly due to excessive nerfs to all the tools

[atomic schooner]

then upgrade your pc

[next junco]

no

[atomic schooner]

or get a lower quality monitor

[next junco]

no 300 hz fine

[zinc laurel]

Overall

[atomic schooner]

then you can enjoy low fps :)

[next junco]

don't recommend anything that everyone has most likely tried

[hybrid sequoia]

there are varied counters to everything cleric can do, half the classes cleric can't even touch, so yeah, cleric is fine

[next junco]

when i ask for a fix im talking abt ini file

[zinc laurel]

I dont think i saw cleric state being the same state then druid nowadays

[next junco]

some people play dark in here too much too the point where they will modify their settings for fps

[zinc laurel]

I strongly disagree. Cleric can litterally win more class way easily than a rogue for example

Cleric has always been OP since the start

[next junco]

every class is good if you know how to use them

except rogue nowadays that shit is fucked

[zinc laurel]

?

[next junco]

?

u can skill dif anyone in the game in any class

[zinc laurel]

Like druid is good if you know how to play it ?

[next junco]

there is no best class ingame

just be better

[zinc laurel]

XD okaaaay

[next junco]

i mean ur ass if u have to make a class the best tbh if u cant win with every single class ingame

even with gear diff

[hybrid sequoia]

can't touch mosquito rogue, can't come close to wiz, sorc or caster lock, fighter and barb matchup is 100% dependent on opposing player being a w-key monkey who does not know how to bait DP and smite, druid can be beaten only if they commit and don't run away, bard depends on skill

[zinc laurel]

Take a 100 fights with every class. I guarantee you, druid wont win most of the time.

[night marlin]

is there a good effective way to farm grave essence fast?

[next junco]

yeah okay fym

[hybrid sequoia]

cleric does shit on mele rogue tho and that's how it shoudl be

[next junco]

if u know how to drag away with druid and to fish out animations and intent you win

are u slo

i mean like prolly

[zinc laurel]

Shouldnt. A healer is supposed to be weak to melee, is has always been this way in every single rpg game.

[hybrid sequoia]

dp smite cleric is not a healer

[next junco]

use war maul cleric parry

u win like not to hard

[zinc laurel]

Still he can heal.

[next junco]

from pots and bandages

[hybrid sequoia]

with a bandage and potion, barbarian is a better healer with potion chugger if you want to go that way

[next junco]

and hes talking abt healing cleric it's self rard

warlock has vampirism too

56% cooldown on smite PD cleric fun

u get DP 22 seconds smite in 8

[cunning ore]

I love reading a chat where some people have no clue how the class rock-paper-scisors should work and why this game is meme designed

Armor classes, one shotting players
Healers winning in Melee
Rogues cant use hide
Tanks with movement speed abilities

[karmic crest]

the fact you can jump and swing makes it retaded

[cunning ore]

So much cookery in such a small game that is hilarious

[lean vine]

after dying to my 5th straight barbarian using whirlwind ive uninstalled dark and darker

[cunning ore]

wise

[atomic schooner]

taking a break from the game and waiting for balancing is perfectly fine. sometimes it can be a little bit fucked

[karmic crest]

repost with a bardiche or halbred is stupid as well

[atomic schooner]

as a halberd user. yes. its very stupid. and i love it >:)

[swift coral]

IM, pls add /roll to the game, thank

[karmic crest]

being able to blcok with it is cool and repost is fine but the damage increase?

[cunning ore]

wym, its only 198 damage

[karmic crest]

i use an arming sword.. the bardiche can block it so easily

the idea of a bardiche or halbred is damage and reach you should be blessed they added a block to it but a repost w huge damage bonus? its too unbalanced

you shoiuldnt even be able to block with it imho

[cursive rock]

repost ok why not but why they all swing at the same speed on repost

[cunning ore]

no worries, SDF removed weapon dead-zones because casuals were crying its too hard to swing for 200 dmg

next patch he does a patch where the tip does 0.5x multiplier because its sharpened

[karmic crest]

lol

[atomic schooner]

its basically just a stabby bit on a stick. why wouldnt it be able to block?

[gaunt oracle]

[cunning ore]

theoretically, heavy weapons should actually have the lowest damage

somehow slow swings in this universe physics translate to more power

[past sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/kenpachi-bleach-rebirth-of-souls-kenpachi-zaraki-ultimate-ryōdan-gif-18428344601638357124

I just leave this here Fox - hopefully you get the reference.

[cunning ore]

i have no clue my friend

[torpid lichen]

Anyone got green ceremonial daggers or green goblets for trade. i will pay well i swear to god.

[hybrid sequoia]

is it the time you learn about force and momentum?

[torpid lichen]

a day of farming and Nothing

[cunning ore]

i use swords daily and i know very well the concept of force and momentum.. and mass isn't power lol

u can swing a lighter sword and get much more acceleration to compensate for the mass just using ur own power

ideally the most damage comes from midsized weapon

large ones are extremely inefficient

[hybrid sequoia]

now apply that to heavier weapons, and you'll realize why halberds were effective weapojns historically

[cunning ore]

they were effective because they could kill horses lol

not because they're powerful to swing, even bash weapons would do more damage

[hybrid sequoia]

you didn't need helbard for it, regular spear was plenty enough

[cunning ore]

yeha and pikes

[paper idol]

I think you are thinking too hard

[bleak coyote]

you got any broken glasses? 👀

[torpid lichen]

No, do you have said daggers/goblets?

[bleak coyote]

to spare, 1 dagger, 1 gold goblet, yes.
still need 3 glasses tho

[atomic schooner]

imagine not having those

[torpid lichen]

imagine right, sposed to be common

i know the imps drop the glasses

[bleak coyote]

yeh.. like the lionsheads are dropping the daggers and goblets 😂

[torpid lichen]

every lionhead i have tapped has them in it but not in green

its always blue or purple, even in pve, utter dog game

[atomic schooner]

they aint that rare. just loot pve lionsheads for a bit

[torpid lichen]

i AM BROOO lol

[atomic schooner]

WELL LOOK HARDER THEN

[torpid lichen]

THEY AINT THERE WHAT CAN I SAY

[atomic schooner]

i got ad agger and goblet in ice caves and another dagger in crypts

they easy. you just gotta look

[bleak coyote]

i found 2 daggers in castle, 3 on maelstorm. They are there, just a pita to find. (and all of them from lions heads). I'd say 1 in 100 drop on pve.

[torpid lichen]

i hate people who say u just gotta look. im opening 5 gold/lionsheads a match, they just. aint. dropping.

[atomic schooner]

well thats all you can really do till market comes out lol. just look around more and hope you get one

[torpid lichen]

cheers my guy

[vivid wasp]

0 Green daggers 0 Green goblets so far

[cosmic belfry]

Good Morning yall

[static nexus]

how is 3 agility = 0.5 % movespeed (barely 1 add movespeed)

[torpid lichen]

just did 10 good/lions chests. i got 1 goblet

only 30 more chests to go

[fair lintel]

anyone happen to know max roll headshot damage on shields this season? lol St. Valentine has a Heater with +! weapon damage and +3.6% headshot damage

[zinc laurel]

The fact that you are obligated to go pve to do quest that require white or green loot is just stupid.

[cunning ore]

because sdf wanted to cater to casuals so he gutted the entire movement speed of the game

but its okay because he already done it once and brought it again next season - so your chances of him changing his mind so far are 100%

[exotic seal]

I don't think it's catering to the casuals. The game feels slower again, much better in my opinion.

[cunning ore]

Its ultra catering to casuals

[atomic schooner]

so slow games are games that are catered to casuals?

[cunning ore]

self-answering question

[gaunt oracle]

[cunning ore]

im surprised terence hasn't made this game turn-based even

[gaunt oracle]

WTT my uncommon gold goblet for 1 legendary gold crown

[cosmic carbon]

cannot find a highroller match dude ive been in the que for 25 minutes

[gaunt oracle]

take it off of trios

[cosmic carbon]

you are spitting honestly

[gaunt oracle]

tbh if you have a legendary gold crown, I've got what hunting loot you need for quests (minus broken glasses, im fresh out). will trade 1:1

[prime vapor]

why can you backstep on ranger while attacking but on druid panther cant dash while attacking

[unkempt shoal]

the dash do be an attack tho

[prime vapor]

explain it

[unkempt shoal]

i dont play druid so i dont actually know anything about that, but i do know backstep itself doesnt do damage

[bitter hearth]

we just got wiped by lv 12 cheater, I can't believe there are still cheaters in this dead game

[prime vapor]

the dash doesnt do damage on druid but it makes it so if you right click in the next like 3 seconds or so it does a 0.1 second silence

the movement is so bad on panther its basically useless

[unkempt shoal]

thanks for the info, but panther definitely deserves to be bad for a while lmao

[cunning ore]

No it doesn't

[flat harness]

you dont know how many cheaters this game has, especially mid late wipe

[cunning ore]

A class doesnt deserve to be bad just because the people you play against, are bad

They gutted druid completely because people refused to play as they should to counter them

same thing w/ rogues, same thing w/ movement

[unkempt shoal]

druid was so oppressive, im sure they'll get buffed again soon tho dont worry lol

[cunning ore]

Yeah, it was oppressive, it forced you to use actual skill against it

[flat harness]

at least the rat gameplay is not a thing anymore

[bitter hearth]

I haven't played in a while but it's really shame that there are still cheaters around. They ruined the game by giving away free accounts.

[cunning ore]

Rat was fine, never was there a problem with rat form

You would throw an explosive bottle and rat was fried

[flat harness]

rat was never fine

[cunning ore]

But people cry to much like absolute bots with no skill, so they rather gut the entire class

Rat was always fine, it always existed and there was never an issue until the casuality started crying that they couldnt one shot the druid

which, you actually could

[flat harness]

imo they should revert everything for druids but just remove chicken and rat

[cunning ore]

they shouldnt reverse anything, fighting against a druid its where actuall skill-check comes, the items you use, how you zone him

its the same thing for rogues, everyone's too brain rotted to use dust or clear doors, so they will just continue crying until they completely delete the class out of the game

[bitter hearth]

old seasons were so much better than these seasons

[cunning ore]

thats why this game will never go anywhere

[flat harness]

i hope they remove hide also, lammy gameplay should be out, as you said we need skill matchups

[cunning ore]

Sure, remove everything.

Have this game just be a shitty version of mordhau

for mobile users

[flat harness]

game could be better or worse, but now i join my solo hr and i can play the game

i face high testo class players like fighters, barbs or bards

[crude swift]

bonk cleric op

[flat harness]

not rat gameplay, with druids waiting to third party or hide rogues

[cosmic carbon]

catch me in highroller water map farming high level gems so i can socket gear lmao

[cunning ore]

If you dont want a class based gameplay

[gaunt oracle]

[cunning ore]

Just play some melee online game

[flat harness]

i want everyother class than hide rogue or rat druid gameplay, so im fine like this

[cunning ore]

because ur too low intellect to actually counter them, its press W + mouse1 mentality

its exactly people like you that this game will never go anywhere but bankrupcy

no classes, no items, no diversity, no utility, just fighter 3x

[crude swift]

just play bonk cleric u kill every class

[flat harness]

last season game went from 25k players to 2k, players only waited for thirdparties or just rat, 40% druids 40% hide rogues 20% actual high testo players

now people play for objectives and if they want loot they have to actually play the game

[cunning ore]

game went from 25k to 2k because they keep dumbing down the game and removing every single mechanic from the game

[flat harness]

this season is better, idc if u play druid and ure mad

[cunning ore]

i dont play anything, this game is a 2 button simulator now

[crude swift]

i play 3 buttons tbh tyvm

[flat harness]

this game never had more than 2 buttons just play world of warcraft atp

[zinc laurel]

every class should be playable. The fact that those devs tend to make some class unplayable based on whinners should be illegal.

[cosmic carbon]

whats the point in ultimate gems if we cant gem ultimates thats my question

[flat harness]

i agree, rogue is playable without hide.

just buff rog or druid till they can win every matchup without that rat lammy gameplay and we are fine

remove hide, rat and chicken

[crude swift]

my game says match in progress and is flashign htat over and over after going down, am i fucked

[zenith blade]

We should be able to gem them. Just at a cap of 2x rolls, not 3

[zinc laurel]

is this guy trying to rage bait ? XD

[cosmic carbon]

i can fix rogue hide just make them invisible when not moving and kinda see thru when moving

[cunning ore]

A Rogue without Hide is just a tutorial fighter.

Just play fighter.

And no, class doesnt need to change anything, ur the one who needs to learn how to play the game

[fair lintel]

so if you move and someone sees you then your just a sitting target.. nice.

[flat harness]

last season i faced very good rogues without hide, but they were actually good and had gear

[cunning ore]

Bro u die to hide and rats, like, u clueless

You can literally 1 shot a druid w/ explosive bottle

[flat harness]

i usually have 10 kda in solos btw

[cunning ore]

And bait rogues out of hide lol, ur just no skilled

[flat harness]

this season i have 60 kda because no rats 🤠

[atomic schooner]

i thought the game has no skill in it at all? you cant be calling people not skilled when you have been saying that there is no skill in the game :)

[cunning ore]

which proves exactly ur clueless

there isnt, and still people can be beyond bad, thats how u know the community lack of skill in this game

this game has probably the lightest mechanics in terms of stealth and people still cry about it lmao

there's games that against rogues, you don't even get to play the game at all

[flat harness]

yea they should remove every stealth, if you wanna kill someone just be better and outplay him

[zinc laurel]

The skill in question : Press W + M1 to kill

[cunning ore]

they are better, thats why you die, lol

[flat harness]

yea is very hard to camp and landmine sir

[cunning ore]

you go ooga-booga mode, and rogue kills you, that's literally the class design

its not, but its also equally as easy to bait landmine and not die

they're invisible, not inaudible

[flat harness]

bait landmine with a external software sir?

[cunning ore]

bro, buy some headphones, wtf u want me to tell u lol, other than ur a bot?

sorry - i didn't hear the defuse

[flat harness]

they dont even have to move

clueless guy

[drifting scaffold]

are the cheaters in the room with us right now

[cunning ore]

they don't? why, they flash into you?

[naive nova]

can we have arenas full time pls?

[flat harness]

they wait you to go near them?

[cunning ore]

ok, then you wait for them LOL. rogue isn't invisible forever

[empty halo]

why can I not get a fucking troll pelt?

like 50 trolls kills

[cunning ore]

thats literally no skill what so ever

[flat harness]

for example, you fight a guy and then you back to your doorway pathing, but wait, in the fking doorway is a hide landmine rog killing you when you are low hp

its not hard to realize how unfair it is

[gritty ermine]

sup

[cunning ore]

it is, if you're even mildly skilled you bait out the hide lol

[flat harness]

come on, i got enough

[cunning ore]

invis for 7 seconds, if you can't bait that, ur a bot - sorry

[naive nova]

make every class OP and problem solved

[cunning ore]

plus, if there's a class waiting for you in the doorway, and you're low HP, you deserve to die, plain and simple lol

thats a situational issue, not rogue issue

[flat harness]

its fine, im having fun this season without unskilled rats stealing loot, im sorry that you are brokie because that meta is over

[cunning ore]

it wasnt meta

it was normal class gameplay

[zinc laurel]

Litterally no one is not making gold.

[flat harness]

wdym?

[empty halo]

1000 hours and I cant get a fucking troll pelt fix the game

[zinc laurel]

It's impossible to not make gold in the game right now.

[cunning ore]

idc, SDF wants to cater to casuals, its his game, not mine - i got my $ in the bank

[flat harness]

who cares about gold???

[empty halo]

Stupid fucking troll pelts

[paper idol]

wdym by that

[zinc laurel]

You were just talking about being brookie

[empty halo]

fix the game

[flat harness]

gear, artifacts, gems?

[zinc laurel]

"im sorry that you are brokie because that meta is over"

[flat harness]

you only can have gold?

[zinc laurel]

So basically you dont understand what will happen in 8 days dont ya ?

[dusty summit]

How hard is it to find bellows?

[zinc laurel]

Wraith

[flat harness]

idk if youre very low iq or just ragebaittinh

[dusty summit]

I've killed many wraiths and nothing drops

[zinc laurel]

Answer the question. Do you think it is hard to get golds/kits in the game

[devout haven]

Not too bad. Wraiths drop them. Limited # of wraiths per raid so it can take some time

[flat harness]

bis kits? ofc

[zinc laurel]

XD ok gg

[flat harness]

what kind of question is that

[dusty summit]

Guess I'll eradicate the wraith race

[cunning ore]

game will go nowhere but bankrupcy, too casual, too low skilled, no skill-ceiling, slow paced, barely any mechanics, everything dumbed-down..

I've had a few friends playing this and they just laughed and moved onto proper comeptitive games in less than a day

[dusty summit]

I hope the workbench allows you to craft weapons or maybe upgrade them

[devout haven]

rip and tear until it is done

[flat harness]

how many legendary +3+3+3 items you have? show me your stash i wanna have some fun lil bro

[empty halo]

PUT THE FUCKING TROLL PELTS BACK IN NORMALS

HOLY FUCK

[cunning ore]

You had countless streamers play the game, and going somewhere else after an hour or two.

[dusty summit]

Bellows and spears are hard to find

[paper idol]

Oh, then are you still playing or

[flat harness]

dont dodge now

you said getting bis gear is easy

[zinc laurel]

Your time is not worth mine, sorry

[flat harness]

ahhaahah wise dodge

[bright prism]

Buy a pc for 3k $ to play mid looking game with stable 160 fps! What a joke of a response

[onyx spire]

why am i not progressing on drops ive been watching for hours already

[atomic schooner]

you dont need to spend 3k on a pc to run this game lol

[devout haven]

Is stream muted? Twitch player cant be muted but the tab can be

[onyx spire]

nope

[devout haven]

No idea, then. I got my drops with no issues. Tab muted for most of the watch time

[bright prism]

Run, and play with stable framerate are two diffrent things

[honest garnet]

I have a laptop from 5 years ago that it runs fine on, I can only imagine the shoeboxes some people running lol

[devout haven]

Maybe these days you do lol. Another great benefit of AI :)

[atomic schooner]

have you seen the steam machines specs? they aint amazing but its better then like 70% of peoples machines

[honest garnet]

I haven’t but it figures lol aren’t GPUs like out of date within a month nowadays?

[cunning ore]

80% of times FPS arent because of GPU

[bright prism]

Dev code is out of date from the start

[candid pollen]

cpu is bottleneck

[cunning ore]

game's unlikely to even use 20% of your GPU

[atomic schooner]

nvidia aint making a new gpu this year so prob not. but even the 30 series works fine now. you just need a system that works well together with a monitor that doesnt ask for too much

[bright prism]

Game thread is a botleneck for this game

[cosmic carbon]

i feel bad every time i kill a baby turtle why did they make them so cute

[empty halo]

ADD TROLL PELT BACK TO NORMALS!"!!!

[bright prism]

That means utilization of cpu is bad implemented

[bright prism]

XD WHAT game does that

[cunning ore]

cpu, multi-threading, microsoft bloatware.. thats FPS drops

[bright prism]

U suposed to See 99 % usage of gpu in games

[candid pollen]

in modern games often times you want to put high settings on purpose to get gpu working on par

counter intuitive

[flat harness]

hes right, in online games your gpu (if its a decent one) barely goes to more than 80 usage

only single players and AAA games are gpu dependant

[cunning ore]

Graphics logic is very basic for modern GPU's, logarithmic logic's the problem, mathematical calculations, server-client stuff, thats most of the game

[cosmic carbon]

dude legendary diamonds have went extinct i cant find any lmao

[empty halo]

add troll pelts back to normals

[wheat smelt]

ight... maps are too fucking big cant get to a fuckign red or blue

ggz

[atomic schooner]

you just have to clear quicker. its possible to cross the full map quickly if you play right

[wheat smelt]

literally only blue or red was on the other fuckign side. loot lust is deadly

[bleak coyote]

you trying on HR? They are everywhere

[cosmic carbon]

im just getting unlucky getting legendary everything else just cant get diamonds

[bleak coyote]

https://i.gyazo.com/d6211357eab25a227a593e3f56e4bef5.gif

still found 0 broken glassses though

[cosmic carbon]

im going to kiss you on the mouth

[bitter hearth]

bring back low gear hr

[cosmic carbon]

i had alot i justed used them all crafting kits

just not justed im dumb

[formal otter]

Solos normals is barbs in squire that destroy everything in their paths... great job at balancing

[cosmic carbon]

did get a unique buckler with 3 weapon damage kinda bis

[bitter hearth]

their balancing always been like making new broken meta and fix it after season since launch

[brittle jolt]

How is it they always manage to delay the patch process. Theres been like 100 hotfixes rn haven’t they learned a reliable way???

[cosmic carbon]

got a halberd with 6 magical healing this game is TROLLING

[formal otter]

I know and it's always been annoying. For 3 years same bullshit. When majority of playerbase knows something is broken, you see a sharp increase in that specific class in every match, and every streamer/youtuber complains about it. What do the devs do? They choose to ignore it... And time and time again, more and more people quit because of frustrating meta. It's both unfair and boring to keep fighting the same class doing the same thing over and over...

[mystic needle]

I found my last green ceremonial dagger and within 24 hours i went from the first quest to the last. sigh

Just took 5 days to get the 2 green ceremonial daggers is all

[tulip creek]

is there anywhere we can see bosses artifact drops

[formal otter]

Classic IM day 1 quest

[bitter hearth]

i feel same, their game is unique but other hand they just ruining their contents themselves again and again, im sure if they could do a little better the game would be even bigger.

[cosmic carbon]

sdf should just sell dark and adarker to a different dev who actually wants to make the game and use the money to build the mmorpg that he actually wants to make

[proud epoch]

He is korean they are too prideful, he'd probably rather die. Sees it as dishonor even though 2 yrs ago he could've made bank and all his employees would be able to take care of their families

[cosmic carbon]

be prideful he made money and start again

[waxen bay]

What is the point to make a room with no map visual and with a hole with nothing to get out ?

[quasi walrus]

i thought they said they wanted to remove having to do lame "techs" like pulling out a torch instead of stowing your weapon since its faster

[unreal garnet]

interestingly enough, this is actually the communitys fault for complaining about the wrong things, or something. idk how exactly, but a lot of the tragic decisions made by the dev team were actually done by the hands of the community. again, i have no clue how, but that notion has been spewed and spammed so much that certainly it must be true 🤷‍♂️

[slate hawk]

There are multiple new modules, each with a secret or treasure or simply dark.
I've seen people here mention that there was a way out of that pit.

[unreal garnet]

no no no, they said they wanted to "keep the skill expression but make it more Intuitive for new players" so they opted to remove the 'skill expression' of jump spam and made it less intuitive, by making it so you have midair velocity change when performing an action

[atomic schooner]

cause its funny to see people get stuck

[waxen bay]

nevermind we found the lever xD it was in the Blindfall pit

[misty ridge]

That pit is damned.

[waxen bay]

There is a lever on a wall (not the broken one, there is one next to a fake treasure pile on the wall)

[misty ridge]

See, I cleared all the mobs once and it didn't let me pull the lever

I was damned to a slow and torturous until another poor soul greeded after me.

[waxen bay]

if its in the Blindfall pit there is two lever in the room 😉

[misty ridge]

I even yelled up "Don't come here, you will not survive!"

[foggy topaz]

i'm yet to see a barb without spin to win.

[formal otter]

Interesting point of view. Can you go into more detail as to what you consider "wrong"? I would say that them having new maps as a main focus could be one such thing 🤔 Especially with all the 2k+ hours content creators complaining they are bored and there is not enough content to explore.

IMO the combat and gear changes they've just done this wipe should have happened a long time ago instead of them working hard on water map. I like the map though, but I am so much more excited about the future of the game after seeing these combat and class changes.

[next hawk]

I've been away for a bit. Can anyone tell me if arena is still weekends only and still only items minted by the character please and thank you? ♥

[granite lark]

Weekends yes. Any gear up to purple can be worn. Not minted

[spark vault]

Dear ironmace: please make gems 10x stackable. Also allow me to export items to other characters without having to log off one and then log on to another and then back to the other

[mystic needle]

The bellow before buff/ the green ceremonial dagger/ and the feather were the only things that killed me (the dagger one by far the worst) but once i got that dagger i jsut found everything easy asf it was saddening. I have now finished every quest besides the monthly's and seasonal stuff

So I'm back to pvp baby!! lets gooooo fuck pve i never wanna be friendly again

[next hawk]

any gear can be worn and kept? and tyty!

[unreal garnet]

i actually fully agree with you and dont think its the communitys fault, basically at all. i was hoping someone who does have that point of view would chime in, as its been spewed and harped on so much that surely there is a logical explanation to it, i have yet to be introduced to such an explaination tho

[formal otter]

I have all the cockatrice items lined up, just waiting on that lucky dagger. But I'm searching in normals (that's where I found my first)

[unreal garnet]

crypts and cavern still having fake water is the cherry on top

[mystic needle]

Oh im glad i typed here before i went to sleep... GO. To. Water. Map! holy fuck its 100x easier i wish i had started there

and there is a tidestone spawn that is random in the middle for that quest too

jsut gotta be first

[formal otter]

Yep, that's where I found first one, so that's where I'm searching. Also mining the tidestone for purple crafts.

[gaunt oracle]

[mystic needle]

oh damn i didnt think about the purple crafts... ok back to that for some tidestone then

[amber flume]

fucking barbarians just opened up my head with one fucking shot

crazy busted class

[mystic needle]

you doing it with the rogue perk or bard right? its so quick on them cause most ppl dont have lockpicks

[amber flume]

he was 1 hp, didnt hit me once the whole fight and then he hits me once and im FUCKING DEAD

FUCK

[mystic needle]

got my rogue from lvl 1 to 33 just doing water map and that was after DAYS of crypts with my ranger

[atomic schooner]

yes. the class that has perks that make it very easy to one shot someone, can one shot someone

[narrow quarry]

where can i find silver chalice i only get goblets?

[amber flume]

yea but that isnt the fucking problem mate, its the fucking thing existing in the first place

[atomic schooner]

i dont see the problem with it? if you dont like being one shot. stop being squishy and protect your head

[atomic schooner]

you find them in the same place as the goblets

[amber flume]

how do you counter him as a slayer fighter then?

[steel plover]

@. everyone just know my duo ethan is coming back from a long slumber, the dungeons ain’t safe no mo. lock in

[atomic schooner]

use range dmg to lower their hp at the start. and dont get hit in the damn head

[desert maple]

5 D's of Dodgeball

Dodge, duck, dip, dive and.... dodge...

[amber flume]

yea dude thats the fuckign problem you see, he can afford to make 10 mistakes in a row, while one mistake by me gets me insta killed

[atomic schooner]

your the one who chose the class that relies on making no mistakes to gain really good dmg

[amber flume]

i was doing that, but that bardiche got right through my skull cause its 70 feet long

[amber flume]

fair, still barb is busted rn

[desert maple]

I main barb this wipe so i can't say anything

[atomic schooner]

only WW is a problem tbh. everything else is just normal barb. its fine

[desert maple]

they insta nerf anything i play so expect it to get obliterated lol

[amber flume]

yea thats what one shot me

[atomic schooner]

abandon barb. become warlock

[amber flume]

warlock is extinct

actually this is a cap

[atomic schooner]

im right here

[desert maple]

a warlock actually 1 tapped me with the thorn build, through a blue mdr pot

[cosmic carbon]

i play bonk cleric to counter spin to lose

[amber flume]

i saw some today

[atomic schooner]

:)

[desert maple]

whirlwinded myself to death lol

[amber flume]

can you guys tell me what the new fighter perks are? Are they any good on dps fighter?

cant play the game rn

[desert maple]

pdr disarm and healing skill is what i see most fighters running with a cbow

some halberd chads out there

[amber flume]

thanks og

u da goat

[atomic schooner]

abandon fighter. become warlock

[amber flume]

been my second main since the start

[atomic schooner]

make it your only main

[mystic needle]

Any way to get black roses except throguh the daily quest?

[atomic schooner]

nope

[cosmic carbon]

dude the baby turtles are the way to go for arcane essence its all they drop

[bleak coyote]

SSSSSSTTT

[atomic schooner]

yup

[vale echo]

bro out here killing babies smh

[cosmic carbon]

its so sad

[atomic schooner]

you get arcane essence. its 100% worth

[vale echo]

that wont hold up in court buddy

[formal otter]

I have abundance of lockpicks, I'd rather play my main

[cosmic carbon]

i still cant get any legendary diamonds im about to default dance on sdfs nuts for some

[vale echo]

just hit some barnacles

[cosmic carbon]

i have been

like 6 raids in a row

everything but

[brittle gust]

anyone know how to enable fsr2?

it along with dlss is just greyed out

[atomic schooner]

have you tried looking over there? ive found some and they just sitting in my stash now

[cosmic carbon]

dude ive got ultimates about a million purples im about to come raid your stash lowkey

[atomic schooner]

not possible :) my stash is well protected#

[cosmic carbon]

bout to pick pocket yo ass

[rich walrus]

HIDDEN FIGHTER SUPER BUILD IS , OLD SWORDS MASTER BUILD .... (the 3 most important perks ) AND THEN NOW YOU GET A 4th SUPER PERK the other weapon block perk that now adds more PDR when blocking ...... USE THESE 4 PERKS with the LONGSWORD or a ZWEIHANDER ..... ZWEIHANDER's NEW REPOST OP FAST WITH THESE 4 PERKS you HALF HEATLH A BARB with 1 HEADSHOT .... try out victory strike SKILL , with ZWEIhander for EVEN MORE KILLING POWER ....

[atomic schooner]

i play demon. you aint getting close enough to me to pickpocket

[rich walrus]

only draw back is no Bow , so you must be good with gun or crossbow ..... or use a Shield ..... has High shield potential because of perks aswell

[atomic schooner]

im seeing a severe lack of warlock in that build

[cosmic carbon]

jokes on you i like a little tingle in my life

[atomic schooner]

also a build that works for you might not work for others

[wheat smelt]

blocking is busted bruh da fuq

[rich walrus]

i mean yes but the Added action speed you get for the Zweihander Reposte is INSANE , and its a nice cross slash

[atomic schooner]

you wont when your being hit by a halberd

[cosmic carbon]

toooooooo illusive

[sterile glade]

do two fortified grounds stack?

[atomic schooner]

the speed of all the ripostes is really quick when you stack action speed

[mystic needle]

your main isnt barbarian or druid right?

[rich walrus]

the fighter perks ..... sword mastery ..... shield mastery and counter attack , you get 65% action speed on the Reposte..... the 4th new perk .... now adds 10% physical damage bonus ...... add in victory strike for another 40% physical damage bonus lol ...... i believe in your demon powers

[formal otter]

Not yet, why? I change my main every wipe lately. Trying to get the lvl 300 achievement for each class, 1 per season 😅

Barb is the most boring class to me, least played out of all. And druid the second least played 😅

[rich walrus]

if you play in a group try out caster druid with the healing buffs ..... i like the Spear alot aswell but the Passive healing you get is pretty freaking strong if you are in any kind of drawn out fight and the heal spells are juiced aswell

[atomic schooner]

do it all in one season >:)

[formal otter]

Only if IM pays me to play that much 🤔

I did fully optimize xp gain last wipe. Best method by far: breaking objects on water map, it's 40xp per minute.

[gaunt oracle]

[atomic schooner]

do it

[timber orbit]

why are you telling everyone my build dude

gatekeep it

[granite surge]

morning @timber orbit hope youve been well!

[pseudo knoll]

im bard main this wipe and probably haven’t touched ranger is like 2-3 wipes lmao

[pseudo knoll]

lmk what you find out

[timber orbit]

thanks! hope you are too

[misty ridge]

I am a Swift, Sword Mastery, Shield Mastery, Counterattack purist

[exotic seal]

@drifting scaffold Gm bud 🫂

[safe lava]

where do i look for stew ?

[formal otter]

Zombies in: ruins, crypts, inferno

[safe lava]

ty sm

[next hawk]

i found them on every single zombie i killed in the water module on goblin caves

[gritty ermine]

😂

[atomic schooner]

you gotta change sword mastery for barricade

[cloud helm]

peakk im still waiting for quest buff or market for the other quests really not worth doing xD

[atomic schooner]

do ur quests

[cloud helm]

can buy the quest items later

[atomic schooner]

do ur quests

[cloud helm]

nopeeee not worth spending 8 hours trying to find a few items

[atomic schooner]

do it

[cloud helm]

Nope rather have up 60k+ gold lol

[torpid sentinel]

are you still able to whisper strangers / non-friends in game? i noticed i hadnt gotten any whispers at all (not even hatemail) and just noticed it says friends only or block

[granite surge]

I dont believe you are able to anymore.

[torpid sentinel]

gotcha, ty

[mellow tartan]

I was wondering why i wasnt getting hate pms anymore

[cloud helm]

aaa thats good ive Whisperd so many xD

[bold sinew]

match is in progress please wait while we reconnect bug yet again
man this game is bad

[mellow tartan]

Miss them :(

[granite surge]

Looks like on 1/7 there was an announcement that said: "Chat whispers can now only be sent to friends." So yeah friends only it appears!

[mellow tartan]

My screenshot collection is going to be legacy now :(

[timber orbit]

weapon guard is game changing for longsword

[uneven swan]

do you just get bavin from ash trees

[formal otter]

I think it only drops in pve mode

[warm fable]

❤️ chyunky

[formal otter]

You can't, they took it out (for no good reason). You can only whisper friends. No more whispering nasty messages at meta abusers

[torpid sentinel]

and no whispering other people in hr lobby where someone is to get your revenge 🤣 i always was sus when people would show up after i killed someone

cuz sometimes i'd get those whispers too as a random guy running around

so i know it was being done

[unreal garnet]

those are streamsnipers. and if you arent streaming, then thats just standard gameplay

[austere vigil]

You can get in normal too, just random chance on what log you get

[misty ridge]

Well I don't use longsword

[keen widget]

Not really

[misty ridge]

It is an op crutch weapon >:]

[timber orbit]

the origami i know did

[pseudo vapor]

give me 5 pro tips for rogue ::D !!!!

[misty ridge]

Well, I'm evil scpOrigami

[timber orbit]

why do all longsword players spend all of their time moaning about how bad it is

[misty ridge]

Hmm

I wouldn't know because I'm not a Longsword player

[misty smelt]

Remove lobby class limit

[oak ember]

I wish weapon guard worked for every weapon like it says x.x

[timber orbit]

DOES IT NOT

[misty ridge]

Nope

[oak ember]

No, only sword type weapons

[timber orbit]

damn i’ve been equipping it with halberd for NOTHING

[tardy talon]

Ive ran into the same duo 3 times in playing solo ice hell, ive reported both and yet days later they are still somehow together and playing

[timber orbit]

i mostly use longsword and zwei this wipe tho so im relatively unaffected

[misty ridge]

Unironically tho Weapon Guard is a nerf to Longsword. Wouldn't recommend it

[oak ember]

yeah i've been running halbard and its got me big sad.

[oak ember]

No it's not?

[timber orbit]

halberd was already my favorite weapon from season 7 and now it’s just devastating

[timber orbit]

we got wardens ragebaiting before GTA 6 and space map

[misty ridge]

Increasing your Impact Resistance means you literally have less time to trigger a riposte after an attack, in turn meaning you cover less distance

[oak ember]

If you can't pop the riposte in that timeframe, that's a skill issue

[timber orbit]

yeah no being able to pop it faster is a good thing and if they’re moving in and out of your range the impact resistance means you’re back to blocking or switching to be on the attack faster

i get what you mean when it comes to covering more distance but sometimes the enemy purposely hits your block wanting you to counterattack

[misty ridge]

The time to react on a parry that is less impact power than your impact res on Longsword is practically lower than human reaction speed. Therefore you have to anticipate

[oak ember]

I want to point out while in the middle of the parry you STILL gain the defense buff. Meaning it's a flat out buff to any and all trades

[timber orbit]

that’s awesome as fuck. free 5% PDR

[oak ember]

Free 5% pdr and 10% damage, while staggering your opponent is just a flat out buff

[timber orbit]

if i have to be a demon to longsword parry a rondel dagger so be it gimme that 5% PDR

[misty ridge]

And either way, I don't think it provides more value than Shield Mastery, Sword Mastery, or Counterattack

[timber orbit]

the weapon blocks are so good i’m wondering how they’re going to make shields not obsolete without making them utterly boring to play against