the-tavern

[median beacon]

I think it’s worth it

Phys power barely changes ur dps meanwhile 4 extra HP can save your life especially if you have decent PDR

[opal knot]

I made lot of progress by going to the Ice Abyss with a greater luck potion and looting the gold pile beneath the False Throne. You can hit that pile 15 times if I remember right, and just walk out with all the best treasure pieces.

[tall trench]

anyone playing give a current player count update? Just curious <33

[cunning minnow]

any idea when the game will wipe?

[zealous tulip]

@cunning minnow January. It's in announcements.

[nocturne scarab]

Unless something really weird happens, we 200% know it wont be before Jan 8th

[ionic fox]

Depends what damage

[dreamy vine]

no

[dreamy vine]

did I say usually?

[ionic fox]

Wait you did wtf

[zenith blade]

The fact we get Nitro clowns should mean a lot to the devs. Even* icky discord sweats are upset

[drifting scaffold]

[dreamy vine]

the nitro clowns are on another level, Ill admit

[gaunt oracle]

buff penguin

[warm hazel]

buff pennis

[vast karma]

Flip flop 🐕 💩 patch again. Oh boooy 😒🙄

[junior sage]

where is all the hr trio pvp taken place at

[drifting scaffold]

ruins I think

[rustic jay]

does anybody know when wipe is or nah?

[opal knot]

They're aiming for January.

[strange sage]

should perma ban everybody that asks about wipe

theyre clearly too young to use discord since they dont know how to read the announcements

[opal knot]

Some people would rather just talk to other people than go digging through something that might not even give them an answer anyway.

[strange sage]

or they could see what people said to the last 20 times somebody asked the exact same question in the past hour

[nocturne scarab]

• come in here
• ask that question
• watch the conversation that follows
  "proffesor, ive discovered perpetual energy"

smack

[cedar dragon]

Hey what day is wipe? Any1 knowing?

[warm hazel]

hello all! i noticed that jolly time is no working in high rollar?

[nocturne scarab]

🥚
🫴

[warm hazel]

is this a glitch?

[cedar dragon]

WHat day will be

for the wipe

@everyone

[cerulean tree]

I've never really main druid, only really fighter/rogue/sorc, I've played druid quite a bit and learned how to play against it, and as a fighter no druid has ever single-handedly killed me in dungeon since. It's not a broken class, I think your just exacerbating a class that's performance only excels against people who are less skilled in fighting against it. When you learn how to beat a druid in combat you realize the only great things they have going for them is the fact that they can easily get out of EVERY FIGHT THEY LOSE TO YOU. So, they never really do win, just get bled dry. And I think your blowing out of proportion a huge balance issue that isn't druids fault, but the entirety of the solo's gamemode that is at fault. Solo's is not balanced. Never will be, no point in complaining cuz it doesn't get balanced, the devs care more about duos/trios/arena.

[astral escarp]

Look into the kitchen, SDF said that he understands now that the circle is shit, but they want to replace it with something, but have no Idea what.
so for the meantime, the circle remains until the monkeys can write Shakespeare

[tulip isle]

Blabla I've played it myself and yes that's exactly the issue with it.
It can easily get out of every fight they lose.
You literally said it yourself how do you not see that that is a massive problem.
A single class in the game has the ability to EASILY get out of EVERY fight they lose that is just turbo cancer

[long mantle]

load into duo 0 players load into trio 1 team naked.

NEED SOME rare bis TEAMS LETS GO

[manic birch]

Is this game done or what

[long mantle]

basically till wipe.

[timber orbit]

cquinn we need you

[broken pagoda]

Drop that twitch link

[supple drift]

It's a cope, my friend. A cope. Have some sympathy for them.

Also. When wipe?

[warm hazel]

1 hour

[cerulean tree]

Okay? Every class has a problem, we gonna remove every class now? Fighter stacks 50% pdr in squire gear, rogue 3 taps anyone by just sitting in a corner, barb reckless just mogs anyone in melee, wizard mm stick 100 - 0's people in 1-2 seconds, druid has panther, sorc has infinite spam, ranger has insane dps and a one-shot melee skill, bard... bard is cool. Cleric has smite dp to just be the strongest melee class in the game for 5 seconds, or insane heals that can only be outdps by an anti heal.

[tulip isle]

All of these classes share the trait that if they commit to a fight they can be killed and have to risk their gear.
Druid as you said yourself gets out of p much every lost fight it's inherently broken.
Either the druid thirds you or catches you in a bad spot and gets your stuff or they just get out of the fight and you get nothing. It's cancer

the fact you as a druid player don't see anything wrong with being able to get out of every lost fight without dying isn't surprising

[supple drift]

i got shamed for playing druid. so.. yeah. I changed to fighter.

[cerulean tree]

druid can do the same thing. They just swing one more time than they need to and die cuz they cant transform. Your just like disregarding the fact that druids are humans and can make mistakes.

[supple drift]

Am I a chad now?

[half vault]

game is such a mess

[tulip isle]

Yeah so the only way a druid dies is if they're a bot very interactive when you see a druid and know the only way you kill them and don't waste your time fighting them is if they're a bot and can't hit their transform in time

[half vault]

removed waiting lobbies is a mistake, wtf is the waterworld "campaign?" No class tweaks forever. Warrior is still hated by the devs, wtf is the cutlass. Whats' happening

[strange sage]

prematch lobby was stupid as fuck

[half vault]

ah yeah so you'd rather join a pvp-pve dungeon crawler where half the players allready left

[strange sage]

wow, i love waiting 2 minutes just to be put into a match to wait 3 more minutes

[half vault]

some of us like the pvp

[strange sage]

i would rather they just fill the lobby then put us in

[half vault]

id rather do that yes

[tulip isle]

I liked lobbies more than continuous ngl

was also a lot better atmosphere wise

[half vault]

You can your opinion but i just played for 3 hours with a pal and we were bored as shit

[strange sage]

"played for 3 hours"
and
"bored as shit"
dont usually go together

[half vault]

We even miss the 3 day awake amphetamine roided up people that would murder us by looking at us

[strange sage]

play a different game if youre so bored

[half vault]

so im lying?

Yes we literally just stopped, we were checking out the changes DUUUUUH. relax fanboi

God tribal people are so annoying

[gaunt oracle]

buff penguin

[simple vault]

The bug where it empties your chest takes all your gold on hr entrance fee is still in the game

[subtle rose]

Gold doesn't matter at this point anyway

[simple vault]

Neither does their bug patches

[subtle rose]

Like they care lmao

[edgy breach]

I think they’ll care when the last 3k players stop playing.

[subtle rose]

maybe

[glacial ravine]

love the dev philosophy of "We know this is shit but deal with it, we might fix it later"

Really keeps people around.

[edgy breach]

It’s a shame. Arena was so fun as I had great legendary kits but now it’s pretty much useless cuz I’ll just get ratted and lose it in hr eventually.

[subtle rose]

Thats the joke, they don't know

[glacial ravine]

and also making it purple cap thus making it crafted gear again.

[edgy breach]

True, but the time spent endlessly crafting the same item for 2 good rolls is making me want to wait for a revert patch on arena.

I guess I’m just too ocd with rolls haha

[drifting scaffold]

there’s a big diff between those two things hahahaha

imo shooting for 1-2 good rolls on a crafted item and gemming the rest is great. sometimes you need to take a high roll of a non-bis stat

[quiet tartan]

Do we know when wipe is?

[hearty plover]

after shit

[humble blaze]

Bring back multiclassing, most balanced thing the game ever had

[ocean sinew]

Spitting right now

I'd play the game again if multi classing was back

[final obsidian]

multi classing

<3eyes

[candid sand]

where tf did everyone go lol

[subtle rose]

wdym?

[candid sand]

when i played last, like a month ago there was 7k online

[subtle rose]

A) Its around christmas time B) game is boring C) Wipe was announced

[limber cairn]

dark and darker players wondering why the game has less players during working hours or holidays

[candid sand]

its 7pm here, sad if you are still working

and holidays is usually time off for playing games lol

[subtle rose]

Not for hospitality workers lol

[static zodiac]

Holidays is for spending time with family, and going outside

[quiet tartan]

whats family and outside?

[candid sand]

there is no spoon

[vale oar]

Happy Christmas!!

[strange sage]

🇳🇴🐒

W discord, idk why it sent a flag??/

[floral steeple]

I cant believe this patch came in time for Christmas, everythings saved W patch

[dreamy vine]

Merry Christmas MonkeKing!

[quiet tartan]

This dude knows ball

[floral steeple]

ty poookie

[sonic cave]

"We're going to be presents under a happy family's tree, right? Right?"

Happy Christmas Monkeyking

[drifting scaffold]

[tough hinge]

when is the wipe? and merry christmas!

[sacred lance]

did they completely take away the character stats functions?

[arctic helm]

6️⃣ 7️⃣
🤷‍♂️

[nocturne scarab]

🐟

[sonic cave]

January is confirmed. Past that we don't know.

[static zodiac]

Walking in a Winter Wonderland

Merry Christmas 🎁

[timber orbit]

Merry Christmas

[noble wolf]

fuckkkk

[robust vale]

am I the only one crashing when playing wiz ?

[sonic cave]

Is this crashing in a literal sense or a metaphorical one? I.E., "I'm crashing out when I play Wizard, class needs some buffs" ?

[robust vale]

my whole game crashes

[sonic cave]

Seriously though, nah I haven't had any crash issues with the game in a long time.

That sucks when it happens. Is it map specific too?

[robust vale]

nope any maps only on wiz

[graceful ether]

Skill issue

[robust vale]

fr fr

[sonic cave]

I don't have that specific problem man, I'm sorry.

Do you know anything else that causes it? Like casting arcane missiles or something like that.

[noble wolf]

trump 2030

[robust vale]

nah idk happends when I just walk sometimes mid hr game

[mystic anvil]

🔥 🐔 BUFF CHICKEN 🐔 🔥
&
❄️ 🐧 BUFF PENGUIN 🐧 ❄️

[tacit ore]

Praise be to Monking. Jolliest Christmas to you

[quaint carbon]

buff pengu for christmas

[floral steeple]

true

[swift coral]

when ur playing steve lacy on ur boombox and ur dad walks in angry and breaks it

[molten iris]

wipe pls

[mystic anvil]

XD

[slim scroll]

can some1 donate im in trade

[vale oar]

Soon...

[molten iris]

some1 help this poor guy

[sonic cave]

Soon™

[little flume]

https://tenor.com/view/chimp-jam-gif-21881753

[zealous geyser]

chud

[slim scroll]

how bout u help the poor guy

[crude girder]

fuck sdf

[static zodiac]

Mwuhahahaa

Krampus vs Santa epic battle when?

[lusty sable]

After Christmas ? So soon means next years Christmas ?

[hollow bloom]

So long has it been. May a season of cheer and good spirits find all 💎 ⛏️

[warm jungle]

when its going to be a wipe

[olive ravine]

@mellow palm

[worn rain]

On January

[warm jungle]

nicee

[azure tartan]

300 players online, over

[strange cipher]

So we just telling lies

[woven widget]

3 players offline

[azure tartan]

[supple drift]

But I wanna know what day. Is it early week? mid? or late week??

[worn rain]

We can check with patch 103, but it hasn't been explicitly stated

[supple drift]

😔

[strange cipher]

Like early middle or late january?

[worn rain]

No more info except patch bro #📢announcements message
There is no further information yet

[strange cipher]

or u could js tell us a lil bit of extra information

[worn rain]

Unfortunately, I'm not an ironmace staff member so I don't know anything about it🥲

[strange cipher]

You should ask one of them and then tell us

[worn rain]

Maybe only SDF knows that

[strange cipher]

Then you should ask him ❤️

[worn rain]

The only time I spoke with SDF was at Tokyo Game Show. I wish IRONMACE will come next year too

I'll print out what you guys want to ask and bring it to next year's TGS

[atomic schooner]

ask for more shields. cause shields are nice :D

[worn rain]

Agreed! I want more skin

[raw spruce]

how about we add actual game mechanics instead of emotes and skins tho (skill tree sub classing more perks /spells )

[sonic cave]

Hopefully that is coming this next wipe.

Although it worries me that SDF has said he wants class-training to be sort of like multiclassing-lite.

[atomic schooner]

nah. gimme either more shields or cool shield skins

[gaunt oracle]

bring back multiclassing for PVE only

not enough doublejumping longbow barbarians in the dungeons

[frigid cobalt]

merry crisis

[swift coral]

skin for the skin gods

[zealous tulip]

Is everyone going to bed early for Santa Clause? It's quiet here.

[long mantle]

0 players in duo na 5x matches 1 team duo naked trio lol not fun atm

[neon kite]

S2r east

[long mantle]

lol if u gotta s2r to find people this late in the wipe . there a problem

[idle otter]

anyone else having issues purchasing red shards?

[quiet tartan]

Anyone know when season ends?

[gaunt oracle]

#📢announcements message

[long mantle]

if u want fun come Bis Rare lobbies atm runing full bis all night

[quiet tartan]

Gotcha, so we dont know the date only in Jan

[final vessel]

is arena up?

[desert vector]

Happy Holidays Everyone!!

[regal badge]

is fighter S tier still?

[fleet cape]

Does shit stink?

[regal badge]

ok thx

[worn rain]

Christmas is here!

[gaunt oracle]

just rolled 3str 3vig on frostlight trousers for my arena kit. merry christmas to me! lol

[shrewd plume]

Merry christmas

[timber orbit]

merry christmas!

[slim cape]

[long mantle]

runing bis rare all night get in the dungeon friends ❤️

[trim idol]

make hr have a min gearscore in adition to the gold fee

[turbid harness]

MERRY CHRISTMAS BROS

[trim idol]

also an idea a purchasable(WITH COINS BTW) extra listing page for selling items

[gaunt oracle]

bring back multiclassing for pve only
make PVE-found loot non-tradeable and PVE-only
make PVE drop the same loot as their PVP counterparts (yes I want PVE HR artifacts)
buff penguin

I just want to play druid with lifebloom, natural healing, advanced healer, and vampirism. with touch, orb, lesser, holy light, sanc and meditate

I think I could build natural healing to tick for 6

holy light = lay on hands at that point

[static swallow]

Broken class

[molten iris]

i just want wipe

[late flax]

this barbarian and druid teaming in HR in disguting... 6 lobbys in a row...

how its posible that ironmace dont have a system to detect... ffs...

[wild atlas]

wipe please

[hexed adder]

Merry Christmas!
Big things only weeks away 🎅

[timber orbit]

Merry Christmas Graysun!

[molten iris]

[robust rampart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441804588662653080/1453635951527071846/b7efddae9a4a31b03b9a2ead403bb7b2.gif

[late flax]

ban the teamer for the love of god... how many gear one must losssssssssssss

[sudden hatch]

merry christmas!!!

i hit demigod yesterday so now my holiday bits are unimpeded by evil and horro

[timber orbit]

can you give me. twenty five cents.

[sudden hatch]

yes bro. check your stocking

[timber orbit]

thx

[deep hemlock]

Saying SDF “has no vision” just ignores reality. Dark and Darker has had a clear high-risk, high-reward direction since day one, and Ironmace has stuck to it instead of caving to every complaint or trend. Not every change is supposed to feel good immediately—that’s the point of having long-term design goals. If the devs actually lacked vision, the game wouldn’t still have such a distinct identity. Disagreeing with decisions is fair, but pretending there’s no plan behind them just isn’t accurate.

[timber orbit]

chat gpt?

actually that seems more like groks mannerisms

[deep hemlock]

your a mannerism

[timber orbit]

thank you oogway!

[dreamy vine]

[strange sage]

Yeah, because deleting and re-adding the same 3 things after the community gets upset is definitely "stuck to it instead of caving to every complaint or trend."

[static zodiac]

Merry Christmas boss man

[keen briar]

Let me guess, axe specialization buff

[turbid elbow]

Merry Xmas!

[strange sage]

Add "profiles" to cosmetics please so I don't have to spend 5 minutes equiping everything on different characters every fucking time I get a new thing.

[long mantle]

Any hints please ❤️ MERRY Christmas!

[glossy skiff]

Arc raiders gets its pvppve better than dark and darker because the pve is actually a threat and the game is fun

[livid crescent]

Tell me you’ve only played a month without telling me

[coarse star]

You clearly have not played at all when he made bad decisions.

"had a clear high-risk, high-reward" when sdf's vison multiple times remove all gear gap, risk, and reward from the game. MULTIPLE times. They have caved in multiple scenarios to certain streamers and players in gerneral.

[ashen coyote]

Saying “you clearly haven’t played” doesn’t magically make the argument stronger. The high-risk, high-reward angle stopped being true the moment SDF repeatedly flattened gear gaps and safety-netted losses. When wipes, matchmaking changes, and balance passes keep removing meaningful downside, risk and reward stop existing as systems and just become buzzwords.

And let’s not pretend this happened in a vacuum — multiple reversals only showed up after streamer backlash or loud community pressure. You can like the changes all you want, but calling it “vision” while ignoring how often it caved is just revisionist. If risk is optional and reward is guaranteed, that’s not hardcore design — it’s indecision.

[coarse star]

You literally just agreed with my message. Why you mad at me I just said the same thing?

And the reason I said he clearly hasn’t played long is because if you have you would have seen sdf make these changes that have killed the game.

I literally agreed with you

[ashen coyote]

Then maybe read instead of shadowboxing? I wasn’t disagreeing — I was pointing out the exact same pattern you’re pretending doesn’t exist. If you’ve actually played through multiple wipes, you watched SDF walk back “hardcore vision” changes every time pressure got loud enough.

Saying “you clearly haven’t played long” isn’t an insult, it’s an observation. Long-term players remember when gear gaps, escape tools, and resets actually mattered — before they got sanded down patch after patch. If that makes you uncomfortable, that’s not me being mad, that’s history disagreeing with you.

We’re on the same side. The difference is I’m acknowledging what actually happened instead of pretending it didn’t.

[dreamy vine]

bring it back

[coarse star]

What am i pretending didn’t happen im extremely confused.

I genuinely don’t know what your talking about, what thing am I pretending didn’t happen?

I did not do anything you just described

[misty arrow]

i love how a healer dos more damg then figher and barb cuz thats sdfs vision

[strange sage]

I'd just ignore them, they're either 1. very dumb, or 2. ragebaiting

[coarse star]

Yeah that was my plan just never been so confused by ragebait

Had to make sure I wasn’t losing it lol

[bleak tusk]

read this with the rhotacism

[floral steppe]

Merry Christmas guys

[molten iris]

Merry Christmas Tom

and wipe when

[dreamy vine]

MerryChristmas

[livid chasm]

Merry Christmas :D

[golden ledge]

Anyome else dropping loot when they right click it to quick move it into the inv?

[errant isle]

Merry Christmas!

[golden ledge]

Anyome else dropping loot when they right click it to quick move it into the inv come on dont be shy tell me how to fix

[river shell]

any egirls in here wanna play with a giga chad chungus

[upper delta]

thats just the christmas gift from sdf. I lost a pretty good frost amulet to that and it wouldve sold for atleast 4k

couldnt find it anywhere in the lobby

[sour stirrup]

jgriffy was right about yall :p

[worn rain]

I want to know what Ifrit's skin status harry. What do you guys think it status?

[outer aurora]

I know what you did...

[cunning ore]

Next map hints.

[worn rain]

It would be great if Volke's map came out❤️‍🔥

[upper delta]

"Match is currently in progress. Please wait while we reconnect"

[zealous geyser]

Can we not lie to the playerbase again.

[sudden hatch]

alt

[strange sage]

@hexed adder add a double boss system like banshee+spectral or troll+clops to Lich and Warlord please

[dreamy vine]

Hit left alt once to fix

[bitter garnet]

https://insights.gg/v/4F59AbT2KynaH0oYsbAOHN not even close bb

[drifting scaffold]

Merry Christmas everybody

[molten iris]

Merry Christmas cquinn

and wipe when

[tough raven]

merry christmas

hopefully a full class rework that functions and is fun to bring this game back

[elfin burrow]

Merry Christmas.

[nocturne scarab]

merry chrimas

[sweet tinsel]

Merry chrysler, how is my favourite dead game doing?

[nocturne scarab]

we r so back

[bitter garnet]

we are soooooo back

[golden ledge]

Thank you boys

[dusk scaffold]

merry christmas

[neat wyvern]

is the current game state good?

[slate hawk]

Yes, to me

[turbid elbow]

meh, is end of wipe so sht is boring, 6.6k online without arena on a holiday, pretty healthy

[wraith cloak]

murry Chrysler

[drifting scaffold]

[upper delta]

Why are we suddenly back

[woven widget]

sdf I expect 15 bluestone shards for christmas, merry christmas

[molten iris]

@proud copper I expect 15 bluestone shards for christmas, merry christmas

[west fossil]

still dead af

[drifting scaffold]

sdf I expect 15 bluestone shards for christmas, merry christmas

[coarse nymph]

Is arena still gonna be ssf

[oblique lantern]

when the wipe ???

[brazen mortar]

merry Christmas gamers

[timber orbit]

it is christmas. Merry Christmas!!!

[lapis birch]

Free stuff for christmas? nah, 10% off new skins

[neat wyvern]

can the same classes enter high roller dungeon

[nocturne scarab]

WE ARE SO BACK RN BRO

[edgy breach]

How out of touch are these devs? You’d think they’d open arena early for Christmas. Can’t wait for this game to finally die.

[dusty badger]

2k ppl only play, its kinda dead already.

[glass ibex]

HEY! In raid tryingg to do secrets and vermin quest, WHERE THE JEEBUS is this secret lever?

[edgy breach]

The quests are devoid of substance. They’re so stupid and boring.

[dusty badger]

Id rather jak off a hobo

[edgy breach]

Same

Better than whatever they got cookin.

[glass ibex]

Why the hell are you people wasting time bitching in here on Christmas XD If you hate the game so bad just leave

[dusty badger]

how do the devs taste?

[edgy breach]

I think they cooked too much.

[elfin burrow]

You don't like, "Kill 1 berserker, then kill 3 berserkers, then kill 9 berserkers, then kill 9 berserkers and other thing, then kill 9 berserkers AND get one item, then..."

[edgy breach]

Maybe burned a couple brain cells

[molten iris]

[edgy breach]

You say it’s wasting time but since the devs haven’t listened I’ve watched the game go from 30k players to 2k. Pretty sad

[drifting scaffold]

oh yeah well I watched it go down to ACTUAL 2k and back up to 40k and then 20k and now 7k

[sonic cave]

I watched it go from ~150k to 2k 🙁

Rip playtests to end of wipe years later

[misty ridge]

Merry Christmas to those who celebrate, and happy holidays to those who don't

[mellow grotto]

Yeah I don’t care about that other shi Merry Christmas

[gleaming sundial]

merry christmas lads

[zealous tulip]

Merry Christmas!!!

[slim lion]

Merry Christmas 🎁

[neon kite]

Merry Christmas 🎄

[drifting scaffold]

[gaunt oracle]

You can't hide the oozeling from me forever, IRONMACE. I will find him. And I will kill him.

[winged citrus]

you don't need haze blade esp since you can video settings down to low to pretty much remove the drunk effect.

[odd compass]

[gaunt oracle]

don't tell my arena opponents about how to exploit their graphics settings and I think I'll be ok

[winged citrus]

not really exploiting if its a intentional setting you can turn on given to us by the devs. they've had close to 2 years to fix it.

[gaunt oracle]

you're missing the point brother. merry christmas

[winged citrus]

and lowkey should be pretty common knowledge now you can just ignore the drunk effect with low settings.

[elfin burrow]

SSF is always a mistake, especially with things like tanglethreads out there making a massing power difference in people getting away. "Oh, the spider refuses to spawn in your lobbies? Get fucked!"

[winged citrus]

according to the community SSF is a mistake arena is a mistake PvE is a mistake market is a mistake even having the dungeons is a mistake.

[nocturne scarab]

jfc pomona cant even go through christmas without gunshots xD

[nocturne scarab]

sounds like a bunch of 💳 defenders

[gaunt oracle]

would explain the sudden stench of concentrated insecurity

[dusty badger]

I like to grind for gold in game and buy my gear, SSF is trash

[edgy breach]

Ironically SSF didn’t fix any rmt

[nocturne scarab]

no, it doesnt, they just show up and drop it for you
or you get paid runs, etc

[gaunt oracle]

there seems to have been a bit of a language barrier on the "self-found" bit

[dusty badger]

catering to the minority will kill the game

[edgy breach]

Already 1 foot in da grave

[slim scroll]

how many people are on rn

[elfin burrow]

Right. I farm for my gold/gear, but pure ssf just screws over most players. Gemming can't hit max stats, so you go until you get lucky(exact piece with exact rolls) or the no-life has the advantage. It caters to people with no job, no girlfriend, no wife, nothing. Their entire existence is the game, and that's not most players.

[edgy breach]

Someone needs to take a lesson from these devs and just make a arena style PvP dungeon themed game. Much better than this 💩🚽

[gaunt oracle]

this is how things work. people who can dedicate the most time reap the greatest benefit, usually. its cope brother. you don't go around saying "I'd like to see Lebron James beat me at basketball if he had to work my shit job with my shit family and my shit life" maybe stop trying to compete with Lebron

[elfin burrow]

Sports as a career path and playing video games are wildly different man. MANY people play games. Very few people actually play sports for a living. Your argument is insane.

[gaunt oracle]

games are games

coping like mad

[elfin burrow]

You have the logic of a dude living in his mom's basement and never leaving the gaming chair. Good luck on the next heart attack.

[mighty sparrow]

I am the lebron james of dark and darker

[gaunt oracle]

im a grown ass man who doesn't need to work anymore. I beat the game of life. Now I game and get to listen to little turds get mad that they can't compete because they still have to work. yup, thats life. deal.

[vagrant birch]

my friend and i have been in matchmaking queue since thanksgiving

[neon kite]

Y’all just don’t like playing the game . You can find a kit in 1 game . It does not take days.

[vagrant birch]

we're hoping someone's mom gifts them this game for christmas so that we can finally have a third

then we can start looking for players to be our enemies!

[upper delta]

How does the game keep getting worse every update

[valid harbor]

The game is given all it's had chat we gotta let it rest

[edgy breach]

I’ll take things that never happened for $100.

[gaunt oracle]

combat veteran, but keep doubting lil fella

[dusty badger]

Combat veterans are glorified hobos

[gaunt oracle]

true

[edgy breach]

Oh jeez another person who probably shouldn’t have VA benefits.

[nocturne scarab]

as an arab american, i love watching this conversation

[edgy breach]

Bro thinks 4K a month is beating the game called “life” hahah

[nocturne scarab]

maybe in indiana

[gaunt oracle]

bunch of nerds big mad they couldn't pass the security guard exam, much less ASVABS. stay salty chubby

[sonic cave]

Disability or education assistance? Vet benefits are good but... not video gaming for the next 45 years good.

Unless there's more

[elfin burrow]

VA benefits? Is that a joke? Most of the guys from my old company couldn't get what was needed, like the VA actually gives benefits most of the time. 1 dude had 5 surgeries on his knee because they kept screwing it up.

[zinc fiber]

you just keep on spending money on power to flex ur max luck kits in gathering hall lil bro

[neon kite]

@gaunt oracle you good bro live your life

[gaunt oracle]

I dont spend money. I spend time

[zinc fiber]

d&d is this guys life

[gaunt oracle]

RMT is for insecure lil nerds

[neon kite]

BETTA WATCH YA

Larry June - The Smooth Kind (Official Video)

[molten iris]

WIPE PLEASE

[rocky vigil]

Hey u fight on the battlefield for those Kids be respectfull

[molten iris]

IM HOMELESS PLEASE WIPE

[nocturne scarab]

Organ harvesters en route now. Please confirm.

[gritty geyser]

How do I make a ticket to the devs to transfer my epic account? I can't open the game to get to the migration code.

[next mason]

Does anyone know if you can put helmets on Krampus cosmetic??

[gaunt oracle]

yeah i saw a warlock with plate helm + krampus

[next mason]

awesome thank you!

[gaunt oracle]

np

[worn rain]

https://www.darkanddarker.com/support/contact
you can use this URL for ticket sir

[gaunt oracle]

Hanpen, my favorite Tavern Master... spawn me an oozeling brother. I won't tell anyone 😛

[molten iris]

[rotund crescent]

when is wipe

[vestal yarrow]

When is the wipe

[molten iris]

Mom gonna kick my ass out of home, im going to go chinese factory to farming troll to survive my life. When is wipe, please help

[worn rain]

lol I'm not a tavern master. I can only make simple images haha

[gaunt oracle]

they havent made you a tavern master yet? what ARE they doing?

[worn rain]

I hope to be able to do so someday. I love this game, so I'm also working on translating it into Japanese

[molten iris]

please wipe (and make this cool jp guy tavern master)

[worn rain]

Actually, this cute and honorable sticker is my work. That's why IM recognizes me. The wipe is maybe January.

What do you all think the wipe for Ifrit will be? I want the Volcano map🔥

[strange cipher]

why have we gone from january to maybe january 😭

[winged citrus]

doubt we'll get a whole new map because maps take time i imagine a floor level for either water map or goblin caves (my moneys more on water map than GC tho)

[worn rain]

The schedule may change, so I don't want to disappoint you guys “maybe”. I'll cry too if the wipe is in February😭

[molten iris]

or they burn the ice map and make it volcano

[hybrid sequoia]

apparently onboarding and more QoL additions is on the agenda now, sdf realized maybe why 97% of new players bounce after being lost all the time

[worn rain]

The vortex on the sea map is actually suspicious. I think It's the entrance to the next floor.

[winged citrus]

it has to be perfect red vibes.

[molten iris]

@proud copper can you leak the content as christmas gift

[winged citrus]

the christmas gift you got was being able to spend 70$ on cosmetics

[strange cipher]

underwater volcano map would be cool asf

[molten iris]

i did, can i get content leak now

[worn rain]

Agreed

[winged citrus]

only one gift per person sorry

[worn rain]

What is onboarding? That's difficult English.

[molten iris]

[hybrid sequoia]

new player experience in short

[worn rain]

I see, thanks for letting me know. I also think it's important to be kind to new players. I try to be nice to strangers in random matches.

[gaunt oracle]

Chyunkus seemed to be hinting at alot of recent dev discussions around the topic of new player experience. Maybe something in the works for next season

[strange sage]

chyunkus literally doing more in a month than graysun has done ever

[gritty geyser]

Thank you very much

[gaunt oracle]

not if you count all the times Graysun has flat out lied to maintain ironmace's image. Thats not light work

[nocturne scarab]

LIET WORK*

[gaunt oracle]

dune theme intensifies

[worn rain]

We want new Graysun plate!

[gaunt oracle]

Graysun starved months ago. That plate been empty far too long

[molten iris]

Graysun feels like sdf to me, come just to say something ( sometime its important, sometime its like recent patch). I like the monkey guys

[worn rain]

Our lovable chimpanzee is a sweet and nice guy

[gaunt oracle]

❤️ Chyunkus

[worn rain]

I'm glad you guys like this game. we can't wait for the new patch!

[gaunt oracle]

someone remind SDF that people only care about multiclassing in pvp modes. PVE'rs wouldn't mind multiclassing 🙂 hint hint

pve only multiclassing? why not?

[crimson ledge]

PvE mode would be good for testing stuff

[gaunt oracle]

I'd be down to test lifebloom druid with all the heal spells, advanced healer, and vampirism. I'll take one for the team

[crimson solstice]

hey havent played this game is over a month because of ded pop and water map in high roller because water map is bad, is the game the same?

[opal knot]

I'd love to see permanent multiclassing (albeit with a penalty for non-native perks/skills). I don't think they'd do it PvE-only though, it would just upset people when they can't use their custom build in PvP.

[gaunt oracle]

no more random maps, but low pop means empty lobbies. if you only want fights play arena when its up, wait when its not

[crimson solstice]

so game is still unplayable, W

[dapper pike]

I'd want multiclassing as an alternate mode, but the game has too many queues as it is

[gaunt oracle]

if you want to be unnecessarily dramatic about it, yeah. literally unplayable

[opal knot]

I just want Crossbow Mastery and holy magic on a Fighter, so I don't have to wait for Paladin to be a holy swordsman.

[crimson ledge]

Only thing unplayable for me is queue time in non squire pvp trio queue ;-;

[steel forge]

dead game

[molten iris]

chill man

[desert jungle]

Merry Christmas to you all and Ironmace

[steel forge]

i good christmas present from them would be give us wipe and the new monk class

[mighty cloud]

hows the game nowadays? severs/balance any better? less PVE more PVP?

[void raven]

whens wipe?

[coarse star]

probably not much different from when you last played. but the game has gotten better this wipe, just not quite enough for some ppl

[sturdy viper]

i lowk miss the game

i miss the good old days💔

[covert maple]

explain why ranger can do more ranged damage with a longbow and more melee damage with a spear than any class in the game

[dapper pike]

That sounds very not right, they don't get bonuses on spear any more and fighter usually has more strength

[jaunty kindle]

does anyone know how to change my bow from left to right hand?

[nocturne scarab]

Carefully so you dont drop it.

[supple drift]

Merry Christmas yall, when wipe? 😉

[zinc fiber]

you cant

[slow ivy]

With the longbow...because Ranger. The spear, not sure about that one.

[nocturne scarab]

games back guys dw
just got a text from tencent

[edgy breach]

This game honestly deserves it’s downfall.

[civic zealot]

is redstone buying bugged?

[quaint bloom]

4k players online... I already feedback to make the game more simple, remove this trash quests and quest itens and make the game like the alpha test, simple going to the dungeon and play

[slim scroll]

CAN SOMEONE MAKE MY CHRISTMAS AND DONTAE IM IN TRADE

[novel reef]

for arena can you use ssf items between characters or only on the same character? i.e. item i found on my rogue to be used on wiz

[opal knot]

The item must be found by the character.

[visual swallow]

it's by character, it's cheeks

[novel reef]

damn, ok ty

[dusty badger]

The devs are just killing their own game

[woven garnet]

whats the new arena releasing tonight what items can you use

[tulip cobalt]

lf1 more duo/trio HR bossing (i play wizard) https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1453839238465458371

[slate hawk]

This isn't the place to look for other players, try the LFG channels, like #lfg-français or #lfg-europe or #lfg-northamerica depending on your region.
You can select your prefered region at the top of the channels list in the 'Channels & Roles' option.

[mild raft]

can someone help me with this problem ive been having it doesnt let me buy anything from the store and i have no clue why i have it bought on steam and it wont let me buy anything.

[slate hawk]

Contact the Ironmace support, they would be able to give you the best answer.

[mild raft]

in the discord?

[slate hawk]

No, on their website https://darkanddarker.com/support/contact.

[mild raft]

thank you

[rustic idol]

when is the wipe? anyone know

[visual swallow]

[rustic idol]

thank you!

[limpid shadow]

Anyone know why the game keeps crashing? No crash dump or anything is sent just shuts down

[blazing gull]

Trash graphic patch which causes crash

[sage cedar]

Remove Druid

[cyan monolith]

✅

[ruby falcon]

why is there no mention of arena gear not accepted anymore in patch notes ?

[dreamy vine]

merry christmas

[broken pagoda]

What does this even mean

[upper kelp]

anyone wanna rat trio

[fiery aspen]

Who lets you craft a spectral cloak?

Brother I just farmed Tailor 3 for the past 2 days thinking it was him :-:

[jade vapor]

I took the #SpongeBobMovie Big Guy Challenge on Discord! Try it yourself before the movie releases in theatres December 19. https://discord.com/quests/1445135504210395167

[crystal sage]

GUYS WHERE IS THE DUO PVP ATT

[jade vapor]

https://discord.com/activities/1432744718667743306?referrer_id=480346198453125131

[simple aspen]

it is tailor

did you wait for traders to reset? the new crafts don't appear immediately

[fiery aspen]

I did not, thank you

[crystal sage]

WHERES THE DUO PVP AT

[broken pagoda]

Someone get their dad from sharing spongebob links

[peak star]

hi u want to buy big kit from my friend, he has good items, his sword is artifact

[ruby falcon]

you must not be aware...

[wild scroll]

Amen

[tough cedar]

Hi guys, anyone know when wipe?

[ivory gale]

WIPE IS DECEMBER 27TH

[wild scroll]

Nope

[wild scroll]

January

[ivory gale]

nope

[tough cedar]

oh, anyone know witch day?

[ivory gale]

no it's december 27th this guy is trolling you

[tough cedar]

where i can find the official informations about it?

[wild scroll]

That has not been confirmed but Graysun mentioned wipe being in January

[visual swallow]

[wild scroll]

This

[median beacon]

January 32nd

[cerulean frost]

How do you make sure items are found by you and not just no name that way I can use it for arena

[median beacon]

Extract with it in your inventory. Don’t give it to expressman

[cerulean frost]

appericate you

[timber orbit]

i thought giving it to expressman made it minted, was that changed or is it currently bugged?

[cyan monolith]

when new season starts?

[strange sage]

no its not minted

[mighty current]

Yo ive pulled mystical gem from centipede in normals (max rare items) and it disappeared from inventory when i extracted, why? wasnt a rouge btw

[finite wind]

they are dungeon only now so you cant bring keys out

[mighty current]

bruh

and what abt left click with crystal ball does that do anything? or just funny lookin

[finite wind]

yeah almost always pull the key when the room is already out of circle 🙂

[mighty current]

lmaoo unlucky

[strange sage]

it blocks, all weapons that didnt have an alt-fire before now block

also, rapier has a reposte now (its ass though)

[visual swallow]

wut

[fiery aspen]

does spectral fabric drop in norms anymore or is it only HR?

[sonic cave]

Both. More likely in HR.

[molten iris]

[fiery aspen]

Thank you

[static zodiac]

Yeah for some reason it doesn’t count as minted when extracted that way

[white nest]

Merry Christmas everyone! I hope you guys all have a good day!

[static zodiac]

Like, it’ll show as looted and your able to use quest items gained from Expressman, but it won’t count as minted for arena

[static zodiac]

You as well!!

[timber orbit]

has it always been this way? i suppose this is what i get for never being an arena head

i just assumed it coming out looted equated to it also being minted as yours. weird it doesn't work that way

[brisk bridge]

how much is leviathan price?

[white nest]

♥

[static zodiac]

agreed

[broken pagoda]

Drop that twitch link

[hardy violet]

yo where can you report teaming in highroller?

[shrewd plume]

Press R when spectating the guy

[hardy violet]

no like if you have a clip of it

[proud blaze]

dark and darker website

[hardy violet]

ohhh thanks just witness barb 3 artifacts and rogue teaming in solos

[proud blaze]

i think theres a channel in here too

[hardy violet]

nah its for discord only problems

[idle valley]

RIP I guess no one is playing arena on Xmas lmao. Can’t find a game on any ELO.

[fiery aspen]

same

[broken ravine]

YO come in arena its DEAD

PLEASE XD

[umbral niche]

What is the point of having pve in arena

you know a gamemode thats meant to be pvp

[modern mural]

Hey idea for sdf make a mode where its any gear and theres 3 qeues solo duos and trio and the best outta 5 gets to loot the losing teams gear

[sonic cave]

To slow melee down in a 1 module limited space environment.

[dreamy vine]

make a mode where fat in the belly goblins run at each other

[dreamy vine]

merry christmas

[umbral niche]

i mean thats jst a dmb take

[dusty badger]

Well now ppl are paying cheaters to just complete all quests for them, great job devs.

[sonic cave]

It's not my take. It's just the explanation. In this meta, melee don't need to be slowed down.

[dusty badger]

I guess they cant stop rmt

[sonic cave]

I'd remove mini-bosses personally. The mobs themselves die in 1 or 2 hits. I kind of like them as a support so my melee don't literally full ape.

But IM's stated reason doesn't work anymore imo.

[shy linden]

WHERE İS the wipe *

[graceful dagger]

can it wipe already

[hard quarry]

wait is it wipeing today?

[umbral niche]

WE WISH

[gaunt oracle]

buff penguin

[opal knot]

PvE in Arena has always felt out of place, especially since they don't respawn every round; if it's okay to fight a couple rounds without mobs in the way, it's okay to remove mobs from Arena entirely. Nobody is there to fight skeletons.

[gaunt oracle]

Remove mobs from arena. Add environmental dangers and traps. Mob AI isn't good enough to leave them into the ranked competitive PVP mode

if you NEED that Wraith there to contest high ground vs players, a statue made of flame traps would do the same damn thing

[half moss]

is arena still solo over 2200

[shy linden]

can we reduced the hr mob nightmare like old all mobs need to nerf a little bit to play pvp

[half moss]

?????

[molten iris]

it is

and wipe please

[sonic cave]

Yup

[half moss]

gg thx good to know sdf is blind

his vision is not 20/20

[gaunt oracle]

bring back multiclassing for PVE modes

Str = phys pow. Under 50, go with phys pow or str. Over 50 go phys dam bonus because phys pow scales at 0.5 after 50

[opal knot]

Traps and hazards would be way better than monsters, it would feel more like an "arena" experience than just having the first twenty seconds of a fight be clearing pointless mobs so you can fight in an empty arena.

[static zodiac]

There should be arena specific made modules

That LOOK like a arena

[opal knot]

Absolutely agree, that's what a lot of us were expecting when it was announced.

[molten iris]

@proud copper can you leak some information

[gray light]

is game playable in arena?

or OCE

[graceful fox]

Never understood why they didnt make arena specific modules with no mobs

[gaunt oracle]

SDF needed the mobs to help his odds winning arenas. The monsters are better than him.

[covert cobalt]

when whip

[velvet herald]

Ur not allowed to have friends in this game gg

[half moss]

Oh yeah totes mgoats

Friendless and grinding dark all day is the vibe

[dusty badger]

The devs are clueless

[static zodiac]

Because it would be cool, and give arena a bigger identity

Why use frost skeletons when there’s perfectly good skeletons from ruins to use

Because it’s cool and gives the frost mountains more identity

[dusty badger]

it would be cool if the game was just arena, nobody plays the main game anyway.

[old vault]

no fuckin sense sdf smokin the wrong shiet

[static zodiac]

I think like

Everyone who plays dark and darker plays the main game

[lost plover]

I think most of the players left still play the main game. If it became arena only I would drop the game. I don’t play arenas

[drifting scaffold]

arenas only sounds like the worst shit ever. arena only players are the reason why solo queuing arena doesn’t work

oh you wanted to play as a team? too bad you got a ranger who thinks they need to output all dps and get all kills and a barbarian who only W keys

[upper delta]

No actually though what is the point of mobs in arena? If i wanted pve id go adventure mode or main game, i queued arena to get pvp, not to clear some pointless fking mobs that serve 0 purpose. And if theres gonna be pve, atleast make it easier. The only arena match ive played since the changes ended with both teams getting squad wiped by demon berserker and wraith

[drifting scaffold]

Mobs in arena serve the same purpose as in the dungeon- timing… it slows you down a few seconds so you can’t instantly spam the door ur opponents come out of. If ur getting wrecked by mini bosses in arena u genuinely need to practice in pve mode first

[upper delta]

I get that but shouldnt there just be like obstacles or less pve to clear first? And the minibosses 3rd partied the last two guys who were already pretty low and cornered so

[slow ivy]

There should be MORE minions in arena, and they should all be Nightmare level.

[drifting scaffold]

because nobody in the lobby could spare 5s to clear it, they reaped the reward later

[drifting scaffold]

this would cause salt of immense proportion. we’re talking about ppl who farm pve mode for their 4/4 gemmed frostlight kit and then run arenas

[sonic cave]

To Cquinn's point, in almost none of my solo mmr games has a teammate rushed and died to a mob. Exception to mini-bosses. People still oopsie pull those.

Like, better teammates just take a sec to clear. Should it be there at all? Maybe not. But I also hate the idea of totally empty clashes in 1 module.

[gaunt oracle]

shouldn't need to enter the dungeon to play arena at all. there should be a merchant that sells arena gear, for free, with improved quality for higher arena ranks

[sonic cave]

I 100% agree with the "squire build an arena set" idea. But it will never be added because they need main game to stay relevant. Sadly. I would love that WoW style setup for arena gear.

[gaunt oracle]

arena rating should be based on player skill, not hours farming dungeon, luck, or rmt

AND get the damn mobs out of arena

[opal knot]

I don't see this ever happening. Doing so will render the main game largely irrelevant, it's supposed to be a dungeon crawler with PvP, not medieval CSGO with an optional dungeon raid minigame.

[gaunt oracle]

sounds like they should make the main game not suck then, huh? if the only reason to play your "main" game is to gear for arena, I have bad news about which game is the main

[opal knot]

Arena and PvE were both mistakes that pulled the two extremes of the playerbase out of the main dungeons and into side-pens where they no longer want to interact with the original experience.

Now everyone thinks their corner of the game is the "real game" and doesn't want to have to touch anything else.

[sonic cave]

The only way I can see to make the PvEvP mode have a good endgame is to have a new rotating dungeon/boss/something each wipe with extremely tricky mechanics. Basically, WoW at that point... what else do you actually do in PvE endgame but farm 3% artifacts?

[sonic cave]

I think the problem is that the only real reward for the main game is to kill people, loot their gear, sell it for more gold, to buy more sets, to repeat.

[opal knot]

I have, I've seen people argue that the PvE casual playerbase "is the game" and that only a small minority of sweats care about the PvP, that PvE would save the game and double the population, so on and so forth.

[sonic cave]

And that was fun for wipe after wipe ... after wipe... then it stops being fun.

[gaunt oracle]

everyone including you, with your "main game" rhetoric. You can develop each game mode to be fun independent of one another; and you SHOULD. Artificially limiting the fun factor of PVE or Arena so that PVP HR can stay relevant.... all that tells me is PVP HR sucks on its own. Thats like saying "dont make the mashed potatoes too good, or nobody will eat the turkey" bruh. Just learn to make turkey. Dafuq?

[sonic cave]

Agreed entirely. Still disagree about the mob removal in arena, though 😄

[opal knot]

Nah dude, you can't pretend I'm pulling a claim out of my backside when I say "main game" just because you like Arena more, your favorite part of the game is closed for half the week, we're not discussing two equal things.

[sonic cave]

I'm still calling it the main game tbf. But what does the main game offer, fam. Kill, loot, sell, buy, repeat. Artifacts? Sure, kill 60 ghost kings for a 75% chance to see one artifact. Fun...

[gaunt oracle]

yes, we literally are. There are 5 modes in Dark and Darker, each deserving to be as fun as possible. I'm here saying "make PVP HR better" and you're saying "no, make PVE and arena worse". Its okay to admit when you're wrong

[sonic cave]

Nah don't make it personal. I want to hear what works about PvP HR right now tbh.

[zealous geyser]

40 year old man thats level 400 on druid arguing with random people in the dark and darker general chat on christmas day 🤣

[gaunt oracle]

caring about what an adult does with their free will 🤣

[zealous geyser]

I dont care one bit just thought it was funny 😄

[gaunt oracle]

.... k bud

[zealous geyser]

lul

[opal knot]

I never said make anything worse, I said adding side games that emptied the primary queues was a mistake, you're putting words in my mouth and then insulting me instead of just talking about the game. Merry Christmas, I'm gonna go play Squires.

[nocturne blaze]

are items used in the area that are bought in the marketplace disappear when you lose?

[sonic cave]

Before you go, what works about HR right now?

[slow ivy]

It is, it's a bit funny like a pimply faced tweenager named "PoopCheese".

[sonic cave]

Yes

[dusty badger]

In arenas you get to pvp, the main game is a ghost town.

[nocturne blaze]

why was this changed

[zealous geyser]

Im wit my boys while my brother is at home on my pc you lose!

[sonic cave]

Short test. This arena season is the last "test" season. Format is locked in at start of next wipe.

So they want to test something I guess. Dunno. I'm not defending it cucking people's sets.

[wind juniper]

so you're "wit your boys" and arguing with people in the dark and darker discord on christmas? wouldn't be coming after people for what they're doing if that's the case

[zealous geyser]

Hes 40

[sonic cave]

Yeah :/ but I wanted to communicate what they've said. You are, sadly, 100% right.

[wind juniper]

gen z freaks are so obsessed with being young, wait til they find out

[plush spear]

are you able to play trio arena above 2200mmr? or only solo queue still

[gaunt oracle]

"I don't see this ever happening. Doing so will render the main game largely irrelevant"
I made a suggestion to improve arena. You say it would make the main game irrelevant, and didn't contest my assumption that it was because the dungeons feed gear to arena players.

This is literally arguing to make arena worse so that PVP HR can still have players. Merry Christmas, enjoy your squires ❤️

[tight aurora]

whats the average queue wait time

[zealous geyser]

prolly 25minutes

[tight aurora]

nobody feelin like goin in the dungeon

[slow ivy]

The arena match winner(s) should be able to loot all the gear from the losers. Otherwise, where is the risk??

[tight aurora]

well idk i just got back on after not playing this for like 5 months

[zealous geyser]

Thats what the dungeon is for? Lmao

[gaunt oracle]

ngl I dont even feel like arena. I went all-in on a support build and none of my arena homies are on. AND im bad at pvp.

oh ez feeling to get, just spend ~700k on a lifebloom druid kit and then try solo queueing. it won't take long, you'll feel it 😛

[slow ivy]

I was being sarcastic. I see too many posts from so called arena pvp players who complain about going into HR with squire gear because there's no risk. It's a risk thing....like there's somehow risk in buying gear from the market place....lol

[wind juniper]

i don't understand why people enjoy arena period, i wish it had rewards and maybe i'd be down to grind that shit but it's so repetitively boring to me

[sonic cave]

Bloom Druid is probably the worst solo build below 2200 tbh. I am sorry.

[gaunt oracle]

ahh, yeah. 🙁

[wind juniper]

at least the dungeon is KINDA different every time

[sonic cave]

But very nice above 2200.

[late flax]

thanks for not baning teamers in HR. great game experience...

[wind juniper]

i've at least had fun in dungeon fights, the only thing arena has for an upperhand imo is no statics

[late flax]

all day the same guys

[wind juniper]

i don't think dungeon is inherently fun, they're both pretty shit, but from my experience i've at least found some fun in one vs the other

[slow ivy]

That's one of the reasons I mostly play on the Test now. Tired of the bs that happens. heh

[wind juniper]

just don't die

i feel you on that tho, menu gaming is definitely not fun i hate regearing

if you're losing 400k just cause druid exists, i can't take you seriously

idk why you're fighting so hard to prove to me that arena is fun, i'm happy you enjoy it but there's no objective fact here

LMAO god you're such a bad troll

2005 called they want their comebacks back

[dreamy vine]

But I love donating months of time to spend 3k on consumables a weekend

[wind juniper]

there is nothing to defend you brainlet, again you're convinced that it's an objective fact of the matter that arena is the best thing on earth

brainlet is a pretty funny insult imo, if you think i'm SUPER salty you're pretty off the mark

nobody was discussing anything with you my guy, you jumped onto everyone talking about how good arena is and why nobody should play dungeon cause arena exists

the only emotion that exists here currently is your weird disdain for dungeon

i'm starting to think arena is for the short attention spanned

[static zodiac]

This argument doesn’t make that much sense

[dreamy vine]

Dungeon geared kill = 100 arena kills

[static zodiac]

1 million

[wind juniper]

@static zodiac yo just reply with arena sucks and watch him lose his shit

you sent me 3 different messages trying to convince me that arena was better after i clarified in each of my messages that this was my opinion, how clueless can you really be to this all

simply highlighting the irony of this statement bud

it's like trying to talk to a lost kid in a supermarket

someone in here is definitely bothered, i'll let the jury figure out who that is

well done mr holmes, i'm a druid the most broken class in the game and i'm insulted

you really cracked the whole case

i was insulted that you can die in a 400k kit because of a class' existence, i realized i was talking to king timmy trying to convince everyone of arena's superiority

i've got a whole fan now

[mighty canopy]

so when are we nerfing rogues

[subtle rose]

Within the next 2 years, bet

[wind juniper]

i just said to you my class is the most broken in the game, why would i be insulted

but you're not reading anything, you found out i was a druid player like it's some secret i'm hiding and started to parade the streets

[molten iris]

Buff penguin (and wipe)

[wind juniper]

that's how i feel about you losing to anything in bis just because they exist

starting to think you've never seen 400k in your life, let alone are comfortable running it anywhere but arena

[static zodiac]

That’s a weird way of putting it

Your argument is, because there are better things to focus on, it shouldn’t happen at all

[gaunt oracle]

This must be the part of Festivus when we air our grievances. Listen up! I have a lot of problems with you people, and now you're gonna hear about it!

[static zodiac]

Well, because you and I are our own individuals with our own thought processes and reasons we feel the ways we do.
Your opinion I may disagree with but I don’t hold it to any lesser regard

Im sorry you feel that way I hope I didn’t come across as pretentious and disagreeable

I agree with this

[edgy breach]

These devs managed to make questing not fun.

[static zodiac]

1 million fetch quests

[edgy breach]

Arena is better than the main game.

[static zodiac]

I do get your point though

[dreamy vine]

Ok family huddle up family meeting. You're all. Just. Terrible.

[gaunt oracle]

Thanks, Uncle Larry

[static zodiac]

You guys gotta realize that there’s another person behind the screen when yall argue with eachother

If you wanna get your point across be respectful

[molten iris]

Im sorry

[edgy breach]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-meme-gif-17770282879716749461

[static zodiac]

I feel like half of the nonsense that happens and the constant arguing over nothing would be resolved that way 🤣

[dreamy vine]

O not you boiling chicken nugget you make the best nuggies wish I knew your secret!

[static zodiac]

Boil maxxing

Boil chicken fries burgers steak

[wind juniper]

who says none of us think about that? it crosses my mind frequently and then i start to think about countries that impose restrictions on having children and start to think that's not such a bad thing

[static zodiac]

Dude WHAT are you talking about

[wind juniper]

a lot of people born should not have been

[static zodiac]

This is over a video game by the way dude

[wind juniper]

not something to be proud of the way you argue like a high schooler, "HAHAHA GOT HIM GUYS 🤓"

[wind juniper]

relax brother, you're acting like i'm out here poisoning people myself, or that i was even talking about people in here with that to begin with, my response to you and your statement literally had nothing to do with this video game

[static zodiac]

It’s just kind of a wild statement to say about people with takes you disagree with about a video game

[wind juniper]

is wishing unbirth the same as wishing death?

there's a lot of mfs on the road when i'm stuck in traffic, i regularly wish a lot of them hadn't been born in that moment, is that really such a satanic thing to think?

tell that to the goofball that wanted to take consideration about feelings into account

[proud blaze]

got arrested and banned from the ruins for what i got caught doing to the harpys

[dreamy vine]

You should ROT for what went on puff would blush

[wind juniper]

dummy, the point is that you shouldn't be dying to anything if you're playing a kit like that, to even act like druid could remotely be a problem at that point is hilarious and the only salt revealed there is yours, you keep dying to druids

[edgy breach]

Nexon would have done better with dnd. Sad that the vision is lost.

I’d rather pay to win at this point

[wind juniper]

isn't p2w the meta rn?

buy crafting mats for arena kits

[edgy breach]

An official pay to win would be better than having people rmt

[wind juniper]

yes, because your hyperbolic use of a number implies that no matter what you do, a druid is killing you, and that's fucking hilarious

[edgy breach]

Like clash royal

[static zodiac]

What a take

[gaunt oracle]

hes got some wild ones

[dreamy vine]

Indeed

Ja

[edgy breach]

I mean look at all the other successful games that have substance with the option to pay for progress. Not that wild of a take

[static zodiac]

If this game was p2w, it wouldve be dead in the ground by the time it was initially taken off of steam

[edgy breach]

Time is more precious than money

[wind juniper]

and it could happen just as easily if not more so for rogue/barb/a fighter with a good parry like

[static zodiac]

Just like every other P2W dark and darker like game that’s tried to come up since they attempted to capitalize dark and darkers launch

[edgy breach]

It’s been pay to win from the start.

[static zodiac]

Elaborate

[gaunt oracle]

bring multiclassing to PVE modes only
make PVE loot Non-tradeable and PVE-Only
make PVE HR drop the same quality as PVP HR
add arena gear + gems
buff penguin

[edgy breach]

Any game with trading will have a market for rmt. The devs should have took control themselves and players would gladly pay for the progress they don’t have time to grind. Not like it doesn’t already happen.

[slim scroll]

@civic plank hey lol

[edgy breach]

Supercell is a company that comes to mind and look at how long they’ve been around.

[static zodiac]

What kind of RMT enjoyer take is this

[edgy breach]

You’re delusional if you don’t think the majority of players rmt.

[static zodiac]

Yeah then look at the thousands of games who have p2w that have failed

[static zodiac]

I think anybody who RMT’s is a loser who replaces lack of skill with money

[edgy breach]

It goes both ways. Not like the opposite is doing any good for these guys haha

[slow ivy]

lol

[wind juniper]

okay i've lost myself a little here i won't even lie about that, i realize i have said two different things now, but yes, my point was never to disagree with you that druid couldn't, it was more that your only problem seems to be with druid when there are plenty of other classes with similar potential if not more so

[edgy breach]

Rmt doesn’t mean the player has no skill. They just value time more than money.

[static zodiac]

Besides, Having a extra stash slot gave the community a heart attack.
If you think an official P2W market is gonna help this game than you gotta look at the communities history

Why do you think there’s gangs of 10 people teaming in lobbies to get gold in goblin caves

[edgy breach]

More money in the devs pockets for meaningful changes and if they would just listen to the player base, the potential is high.

[static zodiac]

I think you personally RMT, and wish to justify it

If that is the case this game is not for you

[wind juniper]

everything was probably just me taking offense so i'll concede that, you targeted druid specifically so i took that as, as most people suggest, druid big and scary kills me on sight and sleeps with my mother delete now, so that's my bad

[knotty crystal]

i havent played since January, how back are we

[wind juniper]

i think the class needs an overhaul, cause that kinda feeling happens even when timmys fight an avg druid, there's almost nothing they can do and obviously i understand that's no fun for anybody, i'm in complete agreeance with the class' problems, i think a lot of us are and a lot of us just have the most fun on this and would be happy to give up a lot of our more annoying options that still exist, half of us really don't care, if you're good or even decent enough you rarely rely on the bs until you have to to not die but even then it's only because we have it

it's really unfortunate that they can't seem to figure out how to balance it in a way that's pleasing to everybody

guess that goes for everything tho 2k strong

druid stigma is always going to exist because of how different it is from everything else, so that's unavoidable really

drop more op classes, let druid breathe

we'll see i guess, graysun said big hype incoming, can't possibly let us down right?

[flat harness]

If you were running 50k gold kits you wouldnt think that way

[wind juniper]

gathering hall could be hype, depends how it functions really, but it would at least show that they had an idea, planned for it, and executed, and that's new territory for IM so that's good news if so

[flat harness]

You dont know how hard is to get profit running these kits nowadays with max 20 slots in the marketplace and the amount of cheaters and rats the game has

[median beacon]

giving it to the expressman makes it completely blank. not sure if you can then take it back in and "mint" it on the next raid but to be completely safe you should never give anything you want minted to the expressman

[wind juniper]

yeaaaa, people don't usually RMT because they lack skill, they do it because they don't want to waste time, a skilless person is probably not RMTing because they're gonna insta lose the first kit they buy and realize they're stupid for spending money on that

so maybe they do it once i guess, but it's unlikely they're the market

[timber orbit]

completely fair. i was corrected and it seems it was never that way. was just a rite of the course thing given that items stay looted when given to him, i figured they'd stay minted too through logic

[median beacon]

yeah it is weird imo. if the item was previously minted it will stay that way. i was just saying for example if you find a good necklace from killing the warlord, you need to have that necklace in your inventory when you exfil to have your character mint that item

[static zodiac]

I run them all the time, I just know how to make money

Start learning how to HR boss, you make money easy lol

[gaunt oracle]

you can make 100g per minute in pve norms. "gold is hard to get" is no excuse IMO

swiping for gold in this game is you admitting to yourself you need training wheels to play the game

... directed at no specific player, but anyone who buys anything in dark and darker with real money

[static zodiac]

Knights are more than glad to help out

You want to learn how to make money without having to spend money? Talk to us

Cause reality of it is, when you swipe that card your funding the cheaters and teamers who sit here in teams of ten ruining Oceania servers by ganging up on the troll mass gaming gold

[flat harness]

Server?

[static zodiac]

darkanddarkerknights, or click my HoK tag

Dark and darker knights as the code I mean

[flat harness]

I mean you just can say the server you play

Yea, lobbies arent

No way this season you can boss and be profit in a competitive server like us or eu

With 50k gold kits

I killed ghostking like 100 times got 0 artifacts

[sage creek]

real. still made ton of money. but artifacts non existent

[molten orchid]

Real

Artifacts are fake

[dreamy vine]

I killed 3 times got famine

[flat harness]

Enjoy 8k gold u still need other 9 famines to pay that kit 🤣

[upper delta]

Is wipe early jan or mid jan?

[static zodiac]

US East

Us West

I swap between the two

[flat harness]

I doubt you play prime time with good gear and boss

[static zodiac]

Prime time is the only time I’m able to play

Besides bringing good kits is the most fun

I think my cleric kit alone is 50k on the cheaper end 🤣

You wanna make real money too you pull a team together

[flat harness]

So youre telling me that you play prime time us, 50k gold kits and u go to boss rooms and still profit? What is ur ingame name?

Maybe youre frog and we didnt know

[static zodiac]

Fighter Solo: SquireKrisa
Cleric Trios: TheDivinity

[flat harness]

Its fine maybe someone from us can confirm

[static zodiac]

50k gold isn’t hard to get, you get 2k per run by just running hr for jewels

[flat harness]

I play eu and i tell you i would know you if thats true

[static zodiac]

You don’t believe me?

[flat harness]

No, but i said that if i play us dungeon i would know you for sure

[static zodiac]

Probably

Realistically bossing isn’t too hard once you spend the hours to learn the boss

Bossing with gear makes it even easier, plus you snowball the more gear you get from boss

[flat harness]

I mean doing the boss is a joke, the thing is counters and thirdparties

[static zodiac]

Exactly, that’s why I only boss in trios

[flat harness]

Oooooooh ok

[static zodiac]

You have people watching your back, than you have ways to counter a counter

However, when you fight solo.
You only deal with people who are by themselves

[flat harness]

I do bosses in solo also thats the difference

[static zodiac]

I’ve fought bosses solo for the AP, you should only really loot the boss and maybe the marvelous chest after a kill

Theres 0 reason to risk the boss pile unless you know your capable to kill anyone who may jump you

Especially if you get a skull key

[upper delta]

Please fix the bug where it says the game is reconnecting you to the game when its really not. I dont have bad ping and it happens like 1/2 games i play and i cant reconnect no matter what i do until that match is over

[flat harness]

I mean if you say it earlier it would be better, ofc bossing in trios especially with a cleric in your team is easier, still you have to split the boss loot

[static zodiac]

Meh it’s not too bad

If you have generous team mates it’s not a big deal, if you find a unique someone would like and you don’t, give it to them

The pile has more than enough for everyone, and take turns claiming artifacts

[molten iris]

JUST FUCKING WIPE, IM MAD

[cursive meteor]

why do some items not have the found by me tag when I found it off a mob in a dungeon

[crystal sage]

WHEN IS THE WIPE GUY????

[ember snow]

1. Wipe
2. Nerf Barbar
3. Nerf high quality item drop rate

[sage creek]

by high quality what do you mean.? cause I cant drop sht from mobs I only get good stuff from pvp

[late flax]

Since when bears can run?

[unborn kestrel]

It's a Christmas Courtroom Miracle

[upper delta]

Btw 3.4b korean won translates to 2.4 million usd

And they still wont nerf druid

[unborn kestrel]

They were too busy with the case surely, right?

[crystal sage]

BUT WHEN IS THE WIPE DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CLUE

[dreamy vine]

Yay

[unborn kestrel]

first time? we never know until like the final week

[dreamy vine]

January just search wipe in top right search

[crystal sage]

This isnt my first dnd wipe but im just wondering cause i aint playuing until they wipe ts

[restive sinew]

nice update on whats going on

[supple drift]

whoa, does that means DaD is free from court??

[quick crown]

I have a dumb question I was watching a video and the content creator had a name plate with a dog and a lantern on it? Which one is that one and how do you get it (if it's still available which I'm assuming it isn't). Thank you if you're able to help :3

[flat harness]

wtf

[broken pagoda]

3.4 billion KRW into inventory guy please

[lusty cedar]

Bros still dragging it

[wind juniper]

it was just a shop purchase, unfortunately no longer available, they seem to like bringing things back every once in a while so maybe at some point but i wouldn't expect it to be anytime soon

[long mantle]

GIve us hint at the big update !? on wipe ?

[rancid shoal]

If I load into Arena with gear I bought from the market, will I lose it after losing the match? It says the only items retained are Self-Found and Self-Crafted

[quaint carbon]

I hope nexon liberates this great game from this awful company

Keyboard acting up. Buff penguin*

[molten orchid]

3 million dollars if the game doesn’t get significantly better after this rip

[runic snow]

stfu noah

[molten orchid]

Chud

[steep hinge]

sup boys big dawg is BACK so you better that money to use like a good boy SDF

[dreamy vine]

ya thats what I thought you said

[rotund ether]

Anyone know a fix for bad lag on water map?

[swift coral]

if you've seen the Valve Half Life 2 documentary, there are many similarities in regards to what Gabe Newell claimed Sierra Entertainment's intentions were, about the main goal of the company being bankrupting both valve and the individuals adjacent to valve, that are being targeted other cases. kinda interesting, i wonder if Gabe himself would resonate with what has happened - based on his distain for a company pressuring you so hard that survival is the variable under pressure, that a lawsuit is being used as structural leverage to nullify a company's future, without even needing to win the lawsuit

Not to say that automatically is the same thing, but very similar, not overall dispute details but methods used by the pursuing company, Seirra tried to make Valve not exist anymore, as Nexon is with IM

[candid sand]

good to see everyone is still running around with nothing but barbs lol have not seen a single other class yet. lemmings much?

[long mantle]

90% of my lobbies are empty.. and completely naked people lol

[candid sand]

im in HR castle and last 4 maps ive ran into 4 barbs lol its like man ezpz always wins the metawagon i guess

[long mantle]

shrug trio and duo both dead ig

[candid sand]

the non-diversity is what keeps this game down. always the one or 2 classes 90% flock to

[maiden topaz]

hey do we know when the wipe is

i absolutely cant stand the game rn so unplayable

[final monolith]

mm

[earnest crown]

Sadly that's true. Lobbies are absolutely dead so prob all we have to do is suffer until the wipe

[maiden topaz]

its not even it being dead is what im complaining about its jus tthat end of wipe brings the absolute worst bottom of the barrel players absolute scum

[broken pagoda]

The nine forbid people spend time with their families during the holidays instead of playing dark and darker

[maiden topaz]

holidays over i had to fly back home

[patent crane]

Playing crypts trio is absolutely down bad , too many rats

[vivid wasp]

Does this mean they will finally make good updates to DAD

[swift coral]

dinners on sdf

[vivid wasp]

Just don't let him cook

[swift coral]

[formal otter]

I enjoy waiting 10 min for arena to be matched with unranked teammates against players way above my rank. Great system for solo queues 👍

[molten iris]

we are so back

[gleaming thicket]

Guys what is the best new shield bundle? which one?

[formal otter]

Second match: same thing, even higher rank enemies.

[molten iris]

now give new season leak

[minor oasis]

How much would a bloodsap blade sell for on the marketplace

[sage wyvern]

is arena up rn?

[final monolith]

no

[formal otter]

3rd match: way, way worse, got matched against a fking warlord, his teammates were high rank, my teammates not. WTF is this matchmaking? This is seriously fked.

[rotund ether]

Like 100g

[sage wyvern]

so is arena only crafted items again?

[tulip isle]

Keep me posted

[formal otter]

Sure, I will send a report at the end of the day.

[sage cedar]

Now that the lawsuite is over, IM can possibly focus on the next important task on the roadmap: the removal of druid

[minor oasis]

ty

[dreamy vine]

IM might be able to focus on developing the game instead of their companies imminent demise for the first time since playtest

[sage cedar]

Yeah W Druid remove inc

[molten iris]

buff penguin, and wipe im serious

[honest lantern]

Guys suggest me some names for my team - cool seksi names

[formal otter]

Right, because go to trial again will be different... how?

[kindred meteor]

i mean they lost 6 million last time. could be ordered to pay more

hope this game gets a re release from playtest 2

[ionic light]

ayyye dead game or wuuut

[vagrant harness]

yo remove not being able to play with ur friendfs in areana at 2200 rating

[subtle rose]

They appealed, almost like without the excuse of the lawsuit they have nothing to fall back on...

[meager river]

bro queueing up arena in full grey squire 😭

[steady peak]

They still haven't added quivers ffs, they don't actually care lmao

[grim rapids]

keep putting a leaver que on water map IDGAF i will kill myself ever time FUCK U SDF SHIT IDEA

FUCK U SDF....

[steady peak]

Ironsuit

[grim rapids]

that is all.

[steady peak]

Give us an excuse to not work or we expire 🗣️🔥

Why TF is the word for when you stop working banned

[strange sage]

because people kept spamming "___ sdf"

[granite glen]

Hi

[zealous tulip]

Morning.

[drifting scaffold]

fire

[vale oar]

[drifting scaffold]

[lapis birch]

so ironmace now locks in ?

[worthy shuttle]

more patch 69s

[lapis birch]

[worthy shuttle]

its ok enjoy ur cloak reskins and pay us

[lapis birch]

w-when new bundle? 🥺 👉🏻 👈🏻

[worthy shuttle]

who needs content amirite

[vale oar]

When the floor gets warmer

[lapis birch]

[vale oar]

But before then, I'm sure we need to get rid of that pesky Krampus...

[molten iris]

[lapis birch]

[molten iris]

leak some more things

[formal otter]

After playing ~20 arena matches today, about 80% of them I get to fight a team that is way above in ranking. I consistently see a patern of teams having they highest rank players. I fought the same warlord player 4 times and he always had better teammates than me.

Is this the vision? 🤔

[molten iris]

idc bro, leave the chat so mr monkey here can leak something for next season

[vale oar]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-ape-monkey-driving-orangutan-lol-gif-24885430

[swift coral]

I commend you for showing quick wit

[molten iris]

[drifting scaffold]

Krampus tongue

[vale oar]

It crossed the line, the great apes are going to war

[swift coral]

There was a long standing issue in regard to the quality control with the pens sdf was using to sign autographs.
The amount of people coming into the server and asking sdf to re sign their autographs was far too much for the moderation team to handle, so a filter was put in place.
A very unfortunate situation for all and a lesson learned in regards to logistics of such a large scale marketing push.

[static zodiac]

Give me the head of krampus

[static zodiac]

😭

[young peak]

This game is for neck beards

[regal badge]

this game blows i love it

[swift coral]

expensive vacuum cleaner reviews be like

[static zodiac]

how turn off vaccum

[slate hawk]

no, this IS a leak.
Last wipe we had rowboats added, next wipe will be golfcarts. ez

[swift coral]

community will finally get their motorbike patch

[strange sage]

Fortnite ass wipe

W announcement?

[marble pawn]

does frost heart glow like the tainted heart?

[prime vapor]

so basically sdf gets back 2 mill usd so the game is saved?

[static zodiac]

#winter-wonderer-chat #winter-wonderer-announcements

[formal otter]

All I wanted for Christmas were more mobs in arena, thank you sdf

Also arena matchmaking is broken. I am consistently fighting teams who are far superior, as in every team member has higher rank than the best in my team. I have no idea how you can mess up something as basic as creating 2 balanced teams out of a player pool of 6

I guess it's just the standard IM mark of quality

[strange sage]

Few players rn, so the skill gap is higher, unless you want 20 minute long queue times

Also they just reset ranks, so that isn't helping.

[slim scroll]

funny how the bane of the studio is the lead dev. if he wasnt there things would have been better both legally and gameplay wise.

i bet he had a huge fight with his superiors before he left nixon and made it personal so they tormented him and his studio and basicallly end it before it even began

[formal otter]

Queues are 5-10 minutes anyway, but I'd rather wait more than get stomped 3-0 by warlord with 2800 rank teammates multiple times in a row.

Also the problem is they don't balance the 6 players in the game...

[sage cedar]

Remove Druid pls sdf

[molten iris]

instead of remove druid, can we add a mechanic that every class can turn into rat

and wipe please

[static zodiac]

rat serum, drink to become rat

your characters class is removed, you are now a rat.

[molten iris]

@proud copper can you hire this brilliant guy

[humble blaze]

All i wanted for Christmas was:

• Motorcycles
• Cook class
• Pregnant fisherman skin
• Remove druids
• Giant boulder traps
• Otto's dungeon

Instead I got:

• No wipe
• Druid still in the game
• Arenas
• Game catered towards PVE softies who die against spiders
• Still free escape exits around the whole map with 0 inconveniences

[static zodiac]

All I wanted for Christmas was

A warm floor, but it was stolen from me

[delicate ibex]

Once you rat, you can't go back.

[static zodiac]

That rotten Graysun

[upper delta]

We have shield skins when will we get weapon skins

[drifting scaffold]

oh I can’t wait til riddle time

[frosty wharf]

sick announcement, boils down to "I promise we're gonna start trying now"

[molten iris]

[rustic garnet]

dafuck is this mmr cap for team q in arena

played 2 hours and now i have to play alone xD

[brave hornet]

Merry Christmas 🎄

[rustic garnet]

merry christmas ^^

who asked for this shit
whats the point
i dont get it