the-tavern

[turbid elbow]

anything new on test server?

[vale oar]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-osu-monkey-touch-monke-gif-21145770

[static zodiac]

Game is a bit smoother

I played like one match to be honest

[turbid elbow]

ah, cool, thanks! was curious if they testing any sneaky things

[static zodiac]

Not that I’ve seen

Don’t see a point in testing the test server if there’s no way to give feedback

[atomic schooner]

:o they actually updated it

[turbid elbow]

we got https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1214939921488543774, idk how used it is tho

[static zodiac]

Oh dope, I can’t seem to find it in channel list

[turbid elbow]

lets be real, the water map should be a PvE only map

[tough jay]

it should be a trading post

[keen briar]

is my game finally goated?

[minor ledge]

am I lagging or are the servers lagging?

[haughty sun]

What’s PvE in this game? Cheezing all mobs on barrels etc?

[turbid elbow]

yep doing roleplay trying bosses, goofing around

[haughty sun]

1 week and it’s gonna be boring to be fair

[turbid elbow]

it used to be fun when roleplay was in the actual dungeon PvP. but the ppl wanted the pve mode without an actual tutorial so we got this going...

[static zodiac]

Guilty as charged

[trail arrow]

chat im bored what build should I use in normals

[drifting scaffold]

quarter staff drunk cleric

[trail arrow]

my cleric isnt leveled so I'll update you on success after I get it leveled

[lavish mantle]

That hall would rock 0 at peak 🤖

[atomic schooner]

is a cool game. solos is too friendly tho

[lavish mantle]

Sdf had access to first arc raider playtest 5 years ago, he enjoyed it too

[devout creek]

Hello everyone, I would like to buy an ancient stingray egg

[atomic schooner]

war maul holy smash cleric

[lavish mantle]

All that experience and inspiration to throw poop at players with patch notes.

[devout creek]

Can the dealmaker drop an ancient stingray egg ??

[drifting scaffold]

awesome

[worldly skiff]

game started crashing, someone has this problem?

[winged citrus]

everyone should start crying about druid again.

[brittle oasis]

where can i report teaming again`?

[drifting scaffold]

hit Esc and click SUPPORT and the website will open

[brittle oasis]

thx

wow this channel is pretty dead.. noone even seems to care about sdfs kitchen rambligs (space...) anymore.

[drifting scaffold]

na nothings really changed. ppl don't read them and dismiss them 🤣

[worthy shuttle]

the more he cooks the more people leave

[pure sand]

can someone tell me which merchant has the spectral cloak

[brittle oasis]

he just doesnt understand to focus inwards and add with quality... now after that water map 🤢 .. hes talking about space. like there is just no hope for this game

[visual swallow]

every post in sdf's kitchen is basically some variation of "hello, I'm aware that everyone hates <insert game mech/feature here> but I don't care because I'm regarded and it stays"

[copper chasm]

Why add space map into a DARK FANTASY GAME?????

[drifting scaffold]

every day this chat is forced to read it gets dumber somehow

[copper chasm]

sdf doesnt make sense

[nocturne scarab]

Demon Lock into Stingray...?

[copper chasm]

Accurate

[brittle oasis]

100% and that whole bargian shiat and he always wants to double down instead of accepting failures

circle removal again is just hilarious

@proud copper

[cunning ore]

It's ok, he'll put the circle back again the patch after.

[brittle oasis]

maybe another queue with/without circle?? genius

[copper chasm]

I think its cause be want to the game to really works, cause capitalism demands his comercial success and be wants to be a real dev. But acting at despair will not make him succeed

[zinc mountain]

do the boat winches work in hr?

[copper chasm]

Bro predicting facts here

[drifting scaffold]

never mind the 3 or 4 other posts where he specifically talks about why circle is still in the game, my brain only works for the last 20 minutes anyway. no context necessary just whatever my favorite streamer says

[brittle oasis]

after we had add/remove about 10 times. u cant make this up

[drifting scaffold]

yeah and i bet you think axe spec being changed is bad development too

[proud blaze]

anyone know what the artifact maul is named?

[drifting scaffold]

can't even think of your own reasons to hate on things just taking the lowest possible routes

[brittle oasis]

after mobile version got shut down.. they are not even covering their costs with dnd, dont think the game will make it much longer

[delicate path]

we said that 5 years ago during the lawsuit

which yielded a net gain of 6 million for this company

a six million they acquired febuary, so don't worry, little nuts, your game isn't going anywhere

no you're stupid and have it backwards. ironmace paid out the 6

just go have a seat and watch the ship sink

[brittle oasis]

yes please do

[odd moat]

what stat should i stack to increase poison and rupture damage. additional pysical and magical damage?

[proud blaze]

poison is magic rupture is physical

[odd moat]

so more will/strength or additional magic or pysical damage?

[brittle oasis]

@vale oar are there any updates on the lawsuit btw? werent the hearings already?

[proud blaze]

idk i dont play rog

but additional/true is always better for DoTs

[vale oar]

Nothing I need to know about

[limber cairn]

Chyunkus please save sorc

[split mulch]

Hello i need help what is more meta for trios barb or full plate fighter

[storm kernel]

Over 300 attempts to get the egg, and still nothing. What a shitty quest.

[scarlet stirrup]

Cbyunkus do you think sdf would make the game SSF only?

[vale oar]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-walking-class-morning-gif-23617930

[wind juniper]

how dead is the game on a scale of 1 monkey jumping on the bed to 5

[vale oar]

I'm bringing the heat

[slate hawk]

A pile of cabbage cigars rolls

[vale oar]

I think as it stands, it's most likely that ssf will only be around at the start of wipes for a limited period

If this changes in future it would be communicated

[warm fable]

boss rooms have almost fixed location
I hope devs will reintroduce fog of war with foundable map scraps

[warm fable]

some people suggest to open marketplace only on weekends

[scarlet stirrup]

nah this is bad because everyone is gonna buy gear that day

[warm fable]

whats the issue

[scarlet stirrup]

the game being only SSF, it'll just have more meaning than killing players, sell gear, make gear, kill players

[drifting scaffold]

yea with the game being only ssf all the best loot will just get funneled to the top

[wind juniper]

i for one am curious what the point of doing anything would be then

[scarlet stirrup]

We already saw the last wipes, SSF doubles the player numbers, when market drops, almost 50% of players leaves

[drifting scaffold]

idk if you don't find fun in progression without market will you find it fun with market?

[wind juniper]

what progression goofball

[drifting scaffold]

gear? kits? huh??

[fresh flare]

hows game doing

[scarlet stirrup]

its more fun without market, i would do every quest in the game i will farm trolls pelt and fabrics to get bags i will make my own gear crafted. when market opens everyone just buys gear

[warm fable]

I think marketplace opening should be moved to be later in the season to keep player numbers high(its the only event we players have)

we need more events

[wind juniper]

nobody would play this game ssf, the only reason you have inflated numbers for your argument is because ssf happens at the start of a wipe, basically guaranteeing the most players possible for it

[drifting scaffold]

i think the idea that no market keeps player count high may be a lil correlation without causation

[gritty belfry]

not even worth opening lmfao

[nocturne scarab]

what am i supposed to do if stingray pops all of his bubbles for final stage?

[scarlet stirrup]

You already saw most of the players on reddit, discord wants the game to SSF only, its just much better in general

[drifting scaffold]

those players don't last, you must know this

[wind juniper]

idk if reddit posts are a credible source

[warm fable]

players always leave when game getting boring/stale. it was happening when market wasn't even existing.

[scarlet stirrup]

player count rn is 5k

[drifting scaffold]

regardless of ssf or other parts of the game, they just like the idea of an even playing ground

[wind juniper]

reset

[warm fable]

thats why S2R is so balanced

[nocturne scarab]

*die

[wind juniper]

also a valid option

[winged citrus]

we should like get rid of wizards ability to cast spells

turn em into a fighter.

[warm fable]

and druid ability to transform

[light talon]

does headshot bonus affect magic weapon damage?

[warm fable]

[wind juniper]

i’m truly curious what you guys would be doing in an ssf world after your 3 games of finding your legendary gear

[warm fable]

yes? right

[hybrid sequoia]

it affects everything except true dmg which isn't affected by anything

[winged citrus]

guys the midnight stag just dropped me a cloak that lets me turn invisible for 2 seconds everytime i hit someone. this is broken?

[drifting scaffold]

inting it and crafting it again and again I guess

[light talon]

cool, thanks.

[wind juniper]

soooo the same exact game except acquiring gear is just objectively more time consuming and annoying? nice

[drifting scaffold]

to most, yes. to some ppl they take greater pride in having it be self found and want brownie points for it

[warm fable]

how to make crafting gear worth it in SSF?
make goblin have 100% to return it

[drifting scaffold]

yeah then we're playing a totally diff game tho right

[wind juniper]

then what’s the point of pvping? fun?

[warm fable]

oh when enemy takes your gear . you lose it

[drifting scaffold]

not saying it couldn't be fun to play more like an mmo

[pure vault]

Arc raiders is able to have ssf due to good merchants and crafting mechanics and its a breath of fresh air playing an extraction game w/o a player market

[wind juniper]

oh so just 100% in any death that isn’t pvp

[drifting scaffold]

yea but arc raiders also has a lot less of a "kit"

[wind juniper]

i wouldn’t mind that because it would make bossing trivial in a way and potentially revive HR a little bit

[warm fable]

— 17/02/2025
I never expected the fog of war to add so much depth to the game. I hope devs don’t remove it.

[scarlet stirrup]

You're right, if the game gonna change to SSF only, it should gets a rework on the merchant system, crafting.

[drifting scaffold]

but it would make rat play go crazy

[wind juniper]

true, delete rogue

[pure vault]

Very true DaD is way more customizable therefore much more complex in that department i just enjoy seeing a game where they worked on it and it pays off

Ive never enjoyed the markets from tark to this game it feels like a shortcut imo

[wind juniper]

the thing with this game is just that it has literally almost nothing to do besides get and sell gear

game needs a huge content update for that to be a realistic world

and i don’t mean a space map

[scarlet stirrup]

Also ssf fix the RMT issue, Another reason why ssf should be permanent

[drifting scaffold]

how would that fix anything

[warm fable]

The marketplace and money seem to be the primary focus for every player, probably because the devs aren't sure what else to add.

[scarlet stirrup]

How can you trade when there's no trading post nor market?

[drifting scaffold]

ppl can just queue brazil in the middle of the night and drop each other shit. meanwhile timmy can't do anything with his gold

[scarlet stirrup]

Its much harder alot of people wouldn't bother

[drifting scaffold]

you have no idea then the lengths ppl go to for rmt

[wind juniper]

you’d be surprised, early season that’s how a lot of people are trading lol

[dreamy vine]

Remove random potatoes. Give us 2 vegetables available at a given time. 1 vege table rotates in/out every 5 min. Max wait time for those with a strong allergy is only on dlc. Yes, players will eat... thats the whole point. Letting people have it their way. But some players won't eat, and those eaters will help bolster eater numbers on unpopular dishes. This is the way

[stark bridge]

so when is this game going to hit 30k players again?

[scarlet stirrup]

When its ssf only

[stark bridge]

that would be cool

[scarlet stirrup]

it'll be fun asf

[warm fable]

people will always hate no metter if you have to wait 10min for your map or 0

devs should make community pole and players should hate each other instead

[stark bridge]

but I would fear that ssf would just become juicers in full bis never dying in every lobby after a couple weeks

they would have to shorten the gear gap a bit

[drifting scaffold]

it's usually what it ends up being

[dreamy vine]

Remove random potatoes. Give us 2 vegetables available at a given time. 1 vege table rotates in/out every 5 min. Max wait time for those with a strong allergy is only on dlc. Yes, players will eat... thats the whole point. Letting people have it their way. But some players won't eat, and those eaters will help bolster eater numbers on unpopular dishes. This is the way

[sullen sonnet]

[stark bridge]

it's very unimaginative that they have stuck to the exact same loot rarity tiers as fortnite

[drifting scaffold]

uhhh

[stark bridge]

if there was less tiers then ssf could work

[drifting scaffold]

what?

[stark bridge]

so they have common - uncommon - rare - epic - legendary - unique

they could just remove legendary and epic

then ssf would be fine and they could just remove high roller and merge the lobbies

[warm fable]

nah just keep reducing gear diff
hope players won't notice

[drifting scaffold]

yea no that's like 60% of the game you're trimming off hahaha

[stark bridge]

not really

it's not really "the game" when no one wants to play high roller anyway

[drifting scaffold]

yeah it is hahaha most builds don't come online til then they don't scale properly

[stark bridge]

well rebalance them so you can have interesting builds without bis

[drifting scaffold]

without bis the game just lost a massive part of its gameplay loop. we did this before

[stark bridge]

you could still have bis though

[dreamy vine]

O there's bis

[warm fable]

✅

[dreamy vine]

12 full chests a piece

[stark bridge]

a full set of blues is still "bis" in the normal lobbies

but the game can't be merged into one lobby because of the existence of the epics and legendaries

[drifting scaffold]

nobody wants this game to be merged into one lobby though that wouldn't be good for anybody

[upper cedar]

Have they said why they dont just let arenas be open all week?

[stark bridge]

why not? pve and a pvp lobby

[drifting scaffold]

you can absolutely own somebody in "blue bis" in squire lobby

[drifting scaffold]

because timmy would not stand a chance ever, just in skill

[stark bridge]

well yeah of course that's a good thing there still needs to be progression but a shit kit can still take down blue bis

[drifting scaffold]

but if you reduce the whole game down to that level, what's even the point of bis

[stark bridge]

to be stronger

[rich barn]

Cus the dungeons are dead when arena is out lol

[drifting scaffold]

????? but we just established the gear gap would be so small

[stark bridge]

not that small

[warm fable]

people will fight for even the smallest stat difference

[stark bridge]

I personally don't want to play the game right now because of all the lobbies

[drifting scaffold]

bro you're just describing the game 6 months ago when they squished all the gear it was terrible finding loot felt awful

[drifting scaffold]

we literally have seen many times in the past that is not true

[stark bridge]

it wasn't even that bad they removed it after 3 days because streamers threw a fit

[drifting scaffold]

no bro we did an entire 2 month wipe of it

they burnt down gear and rebuilt it to where it is now. stop asking for it to change again lmao

[warm fable]

well patch 69 was bad

[stark bridge]

and ironmace has the testosterone of a 6 year old girl between the whole dev team so they just let everyone drag them around and now the game's dying

[upper cedar]

Then they should lean into the most popular/fun part of the game no?

[warm fable]

they didn't reduce gear diff. they removed it

[drifting scaffold]

yea have you even put an arena kit together? i don't think I can trust someone who thinks the rarity colors come from fortnite

[warm fable]

have you guys seen diablo suggestion?

[rich barn]

It’s only the most popular for ‘casuals’ AKA people with jobs. Streamers and sweats for the most part don’t like arena because there are no rewards whatsoever

[wind juniper]

current arena lame wastes my time and money

[proud blaze]

cope everyone plays arena

a lot of people only go into the dungeons to make arena gear

[rich barn]

And they also are known for cutting server costs so that could be a thing too

[warm fable]

#dnd-content message
what devs could do is play with stat curves
so they give less shit overall
but items don't change stats at all

[upper cedar]

Arenas are just raw pvp thats why its prob so popular, I agree that its shit they dont reward anything for arenas so like I said before why not just lean into arenas and give rewards and make it a better system in general. me don no

[rich barn]

I mean that might be a little true but it’s probably most popular because the average person doesn’t like the risk that comes with running full BIS in the dungeon to lose it to a guy who hasn’t gotten up from his gamer chair in 9 hrs

And you can try builds that you wouldn’t otherwise run

[upper cedar]

Thats fair

[chrome crow]

When is wipe ?

[dreamy vine]

Do you need lvl 20 for arena

[proud blaze]

5k players

[proud blaze]

ye

[rugged flare]

RETURN TO PATCH 68

[wind juniper]

return to before we decided to launch this game

[drifting scaffold]

if only

[heady grove]

finally someone gets it like nothing was wrong with that season

[hallow gust]

REMOVE WATER MAP U FUCKIING DOG

[nocturne scarab]

REHEHEHEHEHE

[halcyon relic]

Guy i've got an idea give rogue, bard and maybe clerice a shorter handcannon that can fire pellets

[hallow gust]

WHO THOUGHT THIS CANCER MAP WAS A GOOD IDEA, STUP DEVS GONNA KILL THIS GAME EVEN MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS DUMB DEVS BUNCH OF DOGS

[halcyon relic]

The map should have been an isle with pile of shipwrecks in middle of the sea with a giant whirlpool in middle where the circle start

[wind juniper]

give rogue nothing

[halcyon relic]

I mean this would be funny

A blundercannon

[wind juniper]

give cleric a real cannon, but they have to push it around all game

[halcyon relic]

That be more funny

[wind juniper]

i’d main cleric so fast

[halcyon relic]

An unique version of this would be named Captain's greatcannon

[errant patrol]

Holy cringelord

[halcyon relic]

Thats kinda true though

[wind juniper]

once you get over taking any of it seriously, water map kinda fun

i don’t enjoy getting it in hr though not fun to pvp for my life in water even as a druid, just messy

[steady peak]

I got scared for a sec at the "all progress has been reset"

[brittle oasis]

THIS MAP IS A FUCKING JOKE.... IM GETTING QUEUED ALL THE TIME

[steady peak]

Skill issue tbh

[drifting scaffold]

water map pvp is so fun. right away you can tell who knows how to fight

[halcyon relic]

Luck issue
Solution: Drink more luck potion

[steady peak]

[gritty ermine]

facts

[halcyon relic]

Doctor's order

[tawdry lotus]

Water map pvp is the reason this game has 3k players wtf

[cunning ore]

Watermap was the reason I uninstall and downloaded 1.2Tb of old DOS games.

And I've been playing this since the very first playtests...

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah i like how it removes movement, spacing, awareness, and control and just turns it into who has more hp. really shows who the better player is.

[narrow lion]

guys wht does mean lfm?

[ionic walrus]

Usually "Looking for more"
Also guys questions but what is DB on the trading post, it is Deathbloom ??

[pure onyx]

pls wipe

[drifting scaffold]

lmao expose yourself more. awareness is the key and good movement literally makes the fight

[zenith blade]

Cool it Cquinn. Everyone knows you're a plant

[ripe glade]

do religion reward skins go between seasons? or is it only for the season?

[grand spade]

I know him, what he was doing makes sense. high rating eu is so dead, that deranking yourself, while letting lower rated enemies win more, overall more queues for the higher ratings. unethical for sure, should be bannable

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah zero movement really makes the fight lol every single water boxing match is just who has more hp

theres no skill involved

[cunning ore]

But awareness isn't dependant on class design..

When you build an entire class ecosystem around one consistent set of map rules, every class becomes tightly aligned with those rules and expects them to behave in a predictable way.. If you suddenly change the rules for just one map, all of the classes that were designed around the original system lose their internal logic, creating inconsistencies that ripple through the gameplay. That's why people don't like it.

Trying to fix those issues would force you to modify multiple interconnected classes, which can easily break the behavior of other maps that still rely on the original rule structure. This is why the core system has to remain stable and unified across all maps, because the classes depend on that stability to function as intended.

Once the class ecosystem is established, altering the rules in one area risks disrupting the balance and coherence of the entire design. It's a disastrous waste of resources.

[warm fable]

I was blind, but now I finally understand the vision.
It was never about the game—these 100 patches taught us how to be better at developing games than the devs themselves.

[cunning ore]

This is corridor/dungeon, room based design, it's not designed for open world/high visibility. Some classes just don't work with this design because they were never intended to do so, and reverse-design them would just cause them to break them in the normal maps.

[hollow fulcrum]

i just wanted fun game, not a teachable moment

[cunning ore]

People were looking forward for a Water-themed map. Not a literal water-map.

I was expecting coves, caves, doors, some water-themed dungeon.. Not literally swimming and taking boats.

[honest garnet]

If I’m remembering correctly i think sdf said he wanted to make the game an mmo at one point this was years ago

If that’s the case it makes sence to try to make open world work

[warm fable]

this vision will come back don't worry

[cunning ore]

I mean, his priority was Lobby, Cooking, Woodcutting and Professions. That's just an entire different game, if it's a MMO people will just go play a higher quality one. I like this because its basically a Daggerfall online.

[honest garnet]

But imagine an open world where all the dungeons are traversable, id dig that

[warm fable]

it is open world, tavern lobby is just loading screen

[cunning ore]

Nothing against an open world to traverse, etc. But the moment you involve PVP it becomes ranged dominant in open-anything.

[honest garnet]

Oh 100%

[drifting scaffold]

sorry I wasn’t referring to class anything. just referencing how awareness to your surroundings is extra important fighting in water map because you have more height than the other maps

[cunning ore]

If - I was the game developer, the next thing I would've done instead of the water map, was doing a Level 2 and 3 for the Goblin caves.

Where you would go deeper in the mountain and you would have to go through carved walls, with Golems and stone statues, rooms of carved stone ruins, like a clean Inferno. And in the center you would have this large cave with a very high ceiling and a bright lava lake in the middle with some Salamander boss or some old-god related... Basic things.

And I would've just put resources into adding way more perks for classes, even if experimental, atleast to do some diversity. I can't imagine the amount of resource was even wasted for physics design for the water....

[warm venture]

at what time season usually ends??

[drifting scaffold]

but goblin caves itself is an unfinished map, always intended to be only 1 layer
Meanwhile if they’re able to expand and solve for your z axis in this game, that opens up a lot more…

[cunning ore]

And the end of the map would just cause all players who didn't extract to go into Madness and be stuck there.

[drifting scaffold]

I think more layers will come for goblin caves but they need to fix the rest of the map first. Half the interconnectivity isn’t there, the doors are mostly dead ends

[cunning ore]

Idk, this is me just dreaming stuff up. But, I can come up with such an amount of the stuff I would be much more happy as a player - even just not having watermap.

[trail nimbus]

Can you get Stingray Egg on Adventure mode? Or is that only good for learning?

[sonic cave]

You can get banshee sonnet on adventure mode. You should be able to get egg as well, it's just the droprate is astronomically bad (for quest items in pve mode).

[winged citrus]

you can get the egg its not a drop off the boss tho its a spawnable once you open stingrays loot room

[nocturne scarab]

really love the bubble mechanic on the final stage of stingray
i love being habibi'd by him because there's nowhere to hide and im fat in plate

[lethal lagoon]

What is the best necklace to wear for BONK cleric?

[fallen crypt]

it’s so over

[sonic cave]

Necklace of Peace with insane attribute rolls 🙂

[stiff stag]

They should just make the whole game HR, add back fog, give non portal extracts a 70% chance of spawning, and down portals have a 70% chance of spawning

[lethal lagoon]

Thank you my guy

[kind nova]

The answer is almost always necklace of peace for future reference

[drifting scaffold]

• max hp ring when

do that and reduce the curve of peace and bingo bango

[sonic cave]

Remove HP/True necklaces, tbh.

[pure onyx]

pls wipe

[forest dragon]

bru

[drifting scaffold]

remove is so extreme … not worth the collateral

[sonic cave]

I think they could be removed, but some classes would need to have their base stats adjusted. And/or their perks. And/or a skill tree that's infinitely easier to give classes balanced options that support different ways of playing.

[drifting scaffold]

no that’s what I’m saying you’re listing out the collateral like it’s just ezpz adjust base stats, perks, add skill tree, support a million options

[sonic cave]

Right, I'm agreeing with you that there would need to be follow up to help classes out after they would be removed.

[drifting scaffold]

like yes sure let’s waste time on giving rogue wizard sorc warlock ranger bard skill trees to make up for frost and phoenix
Or just distribute the amount of true damage available in a whole kit better…

[sonic cave]

At some point, some items/stats became mandatory for classes to perform as their class identity. They never should have been balanced around having those items in the first place. If a particular stat is so powerful that every class needs it to perform in pvp, it should be baked into their spells, perks, and generally their base kit in some way.

[drifting scaffold]

you’re mixing up class identity with class builds, and yes there is a gear minimum for those builds to come online

that’s good, and shouldn’t need to be shored up with shallow arc style skill trees

gear fills that easily

[sonic cave]

I don't think that would be the reason to give skill trees, haha. Trees would solve a lot of balance issues. You need levers to tune a class up or down. There are very few of those right now. You also may not want a class to have access to every strong skill or perk together. You can separate those out with skill trees.

[sonic cave]

In many cases, the build is the class. There aren't other ways to play that don't involve that stat. Maybe there are 2-3 rogue builds, but each of them (must) cap true damage. That's not a build problem anymore. It's a class identity problem.

[drifting scaffold]

The opportunity cost to waste time making existing builds work with less stats vs adding more skills and abilities TO THOSE CLASSES is way too high

we just spent 6 months fixing gear to an acceptable place

[sonic cave]

It's incredibly easy. If a class needs X true damage before it can perform in HR, then you add X true damage to the class. If a class must have +X HP before it can fulfill a tank role in HR, then you add +X Hp. And cut the true damage and +HP mega items, which happen to be necklaces.

Keep true on rings, cloak, and the 2x2. Add +3-5 to the class. Remove the necklaces that negate every other necklace by merely existing.

And you know what else? Squire balance feels a lot better now too. Two birds, one stone!

[drifting scaffold]

leveling up a skill tree to give +1 true damage fucking sucks

[sonic cave]

🤔 that's not what I said

[drifting scaffold]

It’s ridiculous, almost as bad of a suggestion as adding baked skills

[drifting scaffold]

Yeah it is tough

[drifting scaffold]

“Then you add X true damage to the class” that fucking sucks

[sonic cave]

Two separate ideas. Skill tree. Class template.

[scenic ice]

Tell me I am not the only one that got fucked over this quick fill how is adding something convenient in an unconvenient way such an iromace things to do lol

[drifting scaffold]

Oh good you want to add ANOTHER fucking structure to this game? Even worse

[sonic cave]

Oh I see, you're a troll. Damn, I don't come in here often enough lolol. It took me a little bit.

[drifting scaffold]

This is what GEAR is for!!!

No bro you’re deadass clueless

[sonic cave]

gg, I legit thought for a moment you were being good faith.

[sonic cave]

There's already a class template that they add stats to / take stats from all the time. I don't think you're a new player, but anyone who has been around for even a few months would know this. So I'm quite sure now you are bad-faith/trolling. Kinda weird to do but you do you.

[untold flower]

guh...

i can only use stickers and emojis from this server...

[untold flower]

please dont initiate discussion just to call the other a troll because they dont align with you in your ideas

[drifting scaffold]

Im confused how you equate base stats classes get to derived stats found on gear? You’re trying to tell me im trolling but all you wanna do is give rogue free true damage for wearing squire gear

[untold flower]

i'm looking at a text wall that served zero purpose because you're not willing to have meaningful discussion

[drifting scaffold]

engaging with gear is an entire gameplay loop for build crafting but you’re trying to eliminate it and shift power away from gear

[sonic cave]

I don't believe that you read the chat above. It's about as clear as can be that he's purposefully misreading what I am saying.

[untold flower]

then explain as such in more detail if you believe there's a misunderstanding...

[drifting scaffold]

no you’re genuinely missing the shortcomings of your suggestion

[arctic helm]

🫃 🤮

[untold flower]

and if they're not open to listening to that, then you can leave the conversation quietly as to not incite any sort of argument.

[sonic cave]

Oh no, I was. Several times above. He continued to misunderstand the very clear and concise explanations. At some point I realized I was being dumb. Buddy wasn't engaging to talk about the points, he was looking for a reaction. The "misunderstandings" sought to gain that reaction. I'm reminded why this chat is so empty these days.

[untold flower]

So your main point was?

I apologize, I can't quite discern.

[drifting scaffold]

this is a whole bunch of shit to rebalance for every class when we’re already in a good place. There’s no reason to overhaul gear and stats when we just got to where we are now! Why would you bother forcing a decision on a player when you GIVE the player the capability to make that decision themselves?

[tawdry hatch]

Does anyone know why i cant type in chat/ ping items ingame? it says the ingame chat is not allowed. It was STR mode.

[untold flower]

(Not trying to be rude, I just can't quite find what your initial point was)

[drifting scaffold]

I replied directly to the most concise point if you want to address it. I just don’t agree with sweeping changes to stats when we’re already where we are

[sonic cave]

Main point: necklace of peace / True damage necks could be removed without significant collateral changes to the game.

[untold flower]

From what I can see here, your main issue is with the high true damage on magical and physical from Frost and Phoenix?

[sonic cave]

Cquinn continued to insist what I was suggesting would bring significant collateral changes. Which is fine, I could be misunderstanding the difficulties in implementing X approach! Totally fair. So I explained, no so this is a system they already have. It's just a number tweak on a character paper template. And when it went beyond that, I realized he was attempting to troll.

[untold flower]

But those pendants themselves are still slight tradeoffs. They prove themselves effective for quickly attacking builds but are less effective in some others. It's not a lie that they work in most builds and damage is always nice-

[drifting scaffold]

to me it’s so far off that cliff of deciding for the player

[untold flower]

But I don't see much issue with them on their own.

[untold flower]

Though, in what specific situation did you mean it affects right now?

Like specific classes?

[sonic cave]

No, the basic idea I mentioned was that true damage is high - but necessary. +HP is so important for tanking classes as to be mandatory. We can solve that by adding them to the base class template. Or, alternatively, solve them by adding skill trees, which would be substantial work but have been promised since PT3 (maybe PT4?).

Quoting from my post above:

It's incredibly easy. If a class needs X true damage before it can perform in HR, then you add +X true damage to the class. If a class must have +X HP before it can fulfill a tank role in HR, then you add +X Hp. And cut the true damage and +HP mega items, which happen to be necklaces.

Where X can be a low number. 3-5, where classes normally have 8.

[untold flower]

But tanking classes themselves often trade things for their health. Dealing with them isn't impossible without fully building true damage, though it is correct that it helps.

[wind juniper]

guys guess what

[drifting scaffold]

Class builds and class identity have their foundation laid by perks and abilities but are built by kits

[wind juniper]

game’s dead it doesn’t matter

[untold flower]

But each class usually has tools to deal with "tanks" without building specifically around true damage. Just having a certain amount is usually enough as their perks supplement.

[sonic cave]

See this is the response I thought you were going to go with a long time ago. But you kept harping on the idea that adding a stat to a class is a MASSIVE project for IM. When the system is already in the game and they do it every few patches.

It's true. I would be suggesting weakening gear in relation to base class stats. I don't think that's a problem.

I think (giving players) the choice to focus on other stats, instead of a mandatory clear best stat, is better than maintaining items that give insane (mandatory) amounts of that best stat.

[untold flower]

Is this under the assumption of solo or trios?

[sleek gale]

tbh headshot damage is so high right now that there is no tanks

[sonic cave]

Essentially either... but erring on the side of trios.

[sonic cave]

That's another point that I'd agree with, frankly. But it's another topic.

[untold flower]

"Tanks" in solos often struggle due to trading off. I don't know what changes they've done to druid but Barbarian often trades off a decent amount of either speed or defense for HP.

Fighters often trade off either MDR or armor rating for health.

This isn't including whether they've built to do decent enough damage.

[sonic cave]

Right, I was wondering what distinction you were making with solos/trios. I was only thinking about the true, which I think is equally valuable (for the classes that must have it) in both. For Necklace of Peace, I think it's much more variable in solos vs. trios, sure.

[untold flower]

Trios is hard to talk about as different comps will result in different needs.

[untold flower]

Solos either needs a balance or a heavy amount of a certain stat to usually function.

You overpower in one stat or just generally be better in stats (Not accounting for skill diffs).

Trios have many more factors to deal with to where the use or lack of true damage is not the major factor in contributing to fights.

[sonic cave]

Movespeed weighting starts to become insanely massive in solos, so by comparison other stats are less important. That's fair. Let's say we're focused on Trios, then.

[untold flower]

Trios, I've mostly seen true damage for builds based on mobility and attack speed/general dexterity.

That or the avoidance of true, building into strength/tankiness.

What's the major effect of true damage in trios in your opinion?

[sonic cave]

And let's cancel out team strategy / coordination because that's always going to be a factor in games. It's really the main reason people play team games. It may be the most important factor, but it should be. But coordination/teamplay aside, true damage is necessary for some classes to perform their role competitively against other geared teams.

[untold flower]

True damage is like a universal method of dealing with it.

[sonic cave]

Of dealing with what?

[fringe rain]

man the game is not doing well

[untold flower]

Each class usually has perks or skills to deal with tanks, but true damage will usually prevail too,(tankiness/general fights)

[untold flower]

Dealing damage in gneneral.

[fringe rain]

the fact i can play multipie matches with no player in sight while rushing trough rooms is not good

[sonic cave]

As far as true damage as an anti-tank stat (as it stands, it's really anti-tank and anti-squishy), you could add different means of getting armor/magic pen more plentifully than currently exist. Or... you could also just add some flat true damage to class templates. Similar to how attributes are added to class templates.

[untold flower]

Armor pen/magic pen in the way it's calculated will always cater towards a specific group/way people build their, well, builds.

[untold flower]

As for the idea of flat true damage

I think it's more of a bandaid fix.

[sonic cave]

If you tell me that each arcane missile deals 12 damage, but putting a phoenix choker on adds 25% damage to each missile, I'm going to wonder why anyone would ever pick another necklace... and why they wouldn't reduce the amount of that stat in the game while buffing the base damage of each missile.

[untold flower]

The magic missile has gone through multiple changes and it specifically works well with true damage due to how it was designed. A fast shooting multi-projectile spell.

It scales at 0.75 too so that each true damage is counted as 3/4s of one.

Magic missile specifically, and usually multi-hits in general often favor true damage.

[sonic cave]

Right, I accounted for that. 3 true to each missile from a legendary phoenix choker. 3 is 25% of 12.

[untold flower]

I wasn't sure what rarity you meant, apologies.

[sonic cave]

I am mostly weighing things at the legendary level. Because practically that's the highest "good" quality items you see in HR. And also because Arena does exist, even if it's not specifically what I'm using as my example.

[untold flower]

I mean, 10 magic missiles, you gain ~30 damage if you hit all missiles.

[sonic cave]

After factoring in the flat true option, I think the only change I'm suggesting is just making phoenix/frost less dominant. And also I think Necklace of Peace gives absurd amounts of HP too.

Well, not just less dominant. Gone, I guess. Since you could keep similar (or even the exact same) true on base kits. Or attached to perks.

Which then just makes those perks mandatory. Which isn't fun, but they partially chose that route with dagger mastery. I see issues with the perk system as it exists, frankly.

[untold flower]

I mean, those 3 are just used so much because they are all-rounders.

They go well with almost any build.

[sonic cave]

I think they're used so much because they are the only giant sources of those stats

[untold flower]

I mean, if you roll true damage, you'll miss out on 3 true damage for either 11 health or 4 of a stat.

[sonic cave]

And, in some cases, because a class needs those stats to compete at a high level. Your wizard at 5 true magic will not wipe out the enemy team as fast as their wizard with 8 true magic. And it will be a noticeable difference.

[untold flower]

Well, just building true wouldn't be the only factor here though.

You'd need MS, casting speed, knowledge for your spells, decent hp, alongside your damage.

[sonic cave]

Or a rogue fighting another rogue will definitely feel the 3 true physical difference. It's crushing.

[untold flower]

Rogue vs rogue, at least non pdr/hp, often ends in about ~4-5 stabs, less in the head or if there was a sneak attack.

[sonic cave]

Of course, but both before and after removing those necklaces, you would still need those stats. They're present and important in both scenarios. Just more important after the necklaces are removed. I'm agreeing with you

[zealous hemlock]

revert sorc nerfs

[sonic cave]

I'm more defending the concept of the idea... the idea itself, I mean... I do believe it, but I don't think it's some sort of magic solution to the game's balance.

I just think those necklaces giving extremely valuable stats, in very high numbers, kind of cuts off necklace choices. It's not a huge impact problem.

[untold flower]

I mean, I will say that necklace of peace and the true damage pendants are very prevalent, if not some of the only things you see.

I've seen certain builds that stat into specifically STR or budget HP pendant replacements of 4 vigor, 4 max HP

If anything, I'd argue for a buff of stat pendants over removal of those straight number boost pendants.

[sonic cave]

It's just tough to run anything else. Maybe if Physical Power / Magic Power were better for scaling damage, you'd see strength/will pendants more often. But coincidentally, one of the major things keeping them back are the prevalence of those other necklaces.

[untold flower]

I wonder what it'd be like if the pendants for stats started at 2, like let's say for example, 2 vigor green pendant.

[sonic cave]

You can stack 8 strength so for every 100 damage you deal, you now deal 108. When 2 true physical does the same damage in 4 hits (and I'm not even factoring in PDR to the first set).

[untold flower]

Strength also increases HP slightly.

I think is a 1:3 ratio for strength to vigor.

[sonic cave]

I like this idea. I'd think it wouldn't go far enough, frankly, but I do like it. That would mean you'd have 6 attribute necklaces at legendary? I mean... the vigor vs. Peace is still peace favored.

Part of it also is I don't see why Necklace of Peace exists when the Vigor pendant exists. It seems like incomplete / not fully thought through design to me. They do different things, but not substantively different.

It is going through 0 players minds that they can rest up HP faster with the vigor pendant, etc.

[untold flower]

I mean, you could run legendary bear pendant (5 vigor if its +1 in stats), 4 max hp.

[sonic cave]

That's true. Even still, it's just matching peace pendant (assuming no +3 vigor roll)

[untold flower]

HP recovery is... honestly forgettable for most players.

Oh my god is that a change or am I forgetting

That stats could be rolled onto rings and pendants

[sonic cave]

A change since when? They currently can, yes.

[untold flower]

I don't think they used to be able to roll stats on rings/pendants.

[untold flower]

that sort of throws this down...

[sonic cave]

Correct, it's this wipe I think. Maybe the previous too.

They didn't used to roll 3 on neck / 2 on rings for sure.

[untold flower]

OR

Make necklaces start at 3 whilst rings start at 2?

That or make true damage pendants/necklace of peace's green currently be blue, removing the green rarity for these. The current legendary of them would be turned into unique.

Meaning legendary necklace of peace would be 8 hp, same as the current purple.

[sonic cave]

That would work to close the gap, but also it's still a dang vigor pendant and peace pendant.

[leaden flower]

game is dead gg SDF

[untold flower]

Bear pendant could roll 4 hp, 6 vigor at legendary

Necklace of peace would be able to roll 3 vigor, 8 hp.

[muted storm]

yeah lets move on to arc raiders now

[untold flower]

@sonic cave That would sort of close the gap.

As for true damage pendants/choker, they would roll 3 true at legendary.

[leaden flower]

all to arc raiders lets go, we need the server in 0 population

[sudden hatch]

yo who playin that dayz i just made huge spawntown money

[crude flare]

Is there any incentive for playing the test server yet? Other than seeing stuff early?

[sudden hatch]

not really no just early stuff yeah

[sonic cave]

That would be much better, I'd agree... but the stat is still mandatory. At least the necklace options would be more in line with each other.

[untold flower]

I mean I think maybe they could make STR give a little bit of armor pen?

[sonic cave]

I guess I have a dual problem with True being so critical to class balance when I think it should be more innate and gear should amplify, not create viability.

But the other half of the problem was necklaces being locked in to 3 options, and your solution would help with at least 2 of those amulets.

[hollow fulcrum]

no, quite the opposite. you have to grind quests and levels to even test stuff, theres no tools in place to allow for real testing

[tender agate]

Checking for a friend. Has anyone else had discord just sort of give up, seemingly restart (but the program is still running) then pop back up and reconnect you to the vc?

[stiff path]

in que for 10 minuets lol wth is going on

[winged bough]

Is a new wipe announced?

[gritty ermine]

Map selection please

[supple drift]

i dont have arc raiders. but i have enshrouded 🙂

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah thats what it do when you disconnect

[sage wyvern]

is arena 24/7 yet?

[keen zephyr]

Not yet

[keen zephyr]

No, still on Friday and weekends

[winged bough]

Word thanks

[rigid sigil]

anyone else having horrible performance?

[small hazel]

good job killing this game even more than it was with pve mode.. que into one team in HR 4 games in a row no other teams to be found anywhere

[solemn coral]

magic power or spell cast speed for cleric?

[peak maple]

Just got a spellweaver, how much is it worth

[solemn coral]

apparently 1db, 1 full

from the only spellweaver i can see in trade chat

[peak maple]

so 1 deathbloom 1 full chest?

[barren scaffold]

99+ ppl sitting in a fucking discord and none of you ps are playing HR

[solemn coral]

i think? i don't deal in uniques so i'm not 100% on that just did a quick check to ballpark for u xD

[proud blaze]

who wants to spend 5 minutes making a kit just to get water map

[barren scaffold]

better then fcking normals and getting bs

[solemn coral]

ill go into HR naked lmao, i'm not trying to get rolled by unique full kitters with no life

[timber orbit]

p03 elite character

[solemn coral]

full kitted myself in blues just to get 3 shot by a landmine rogue :] love this game

[humble anchor]

...

[solemn coral]

i killed this rogue 3 days ago ._.

[vital violet]

Bring back unique arena!

[graceful wyvern]

100k kit sweats
red camping landmine rogues with full true and headshot damage bonus
8 stacks of rmt teamers
random map where you can't do specialized builds

what could go wrong?

[glossy rapids]

So if all weapons have a block, should the lantern remain a throwable?

[solemn coral]

ikr? and he's just rolling half the map rn too

[glossy rapids]

Did the offhand lantern even have stat rolls when it was first introduced? I don't think we would want to toss out our strength just to reposition a light or worse yet give it to our opponents to trade for a riposte.

[nocturne scarab]

"Oh no, he's gonna hit me! Better block with my lantern!"

• We've both caught fire as the lantern exploded on both of us
• Fortunately I did not pass on my genes

[keen zephyr]

Don’t believe so, it was mainly as a lighting source when it was freshly launch

[stiff kite]

can someone ban the shuaigez guy im getting farmed over and over by this cheating chinese because theres not enough pklayers

[slate hawk]

Have you reported the player via the in-game system and on the website?
It's easy to complain, but are you actively trying to stop it? Take video recordings, send 'em that if you can.
Also, hate speech, abusive or threatening speech, against an individual or a group, will not be tolerated. Discrimination against a particular race, sex, religion, political alignment, etc. will not be tolerated.

[solemn coral]

raaah got my revenge on a different landmine cobalted rogue

as a squire kit :] im quite tickled with myself

[paper sail]

Bro we ever gonna do something ab this teaming pandemic? Just got teamed on in trios by a a 4-man 3rd partying me as soon as I killed boss. To make matters worse 1 of my teammates was dead so it was a 4v2 and i had no spells left from boss

[visual swallow]

sdf thinks teaming is cool, he says it's "roleplaying" kek

[light talon]

is there a setting i should change for water map? i get terrible frames around other players

[radiant zephyr]

Is it still possible to transfer from Blacksmith launcher to Steam?

[paper sail]

funny feeling SDF is part of the 6 man chinese rogue teams lol

[ocean berry]

how long do we have this wipe for?

[misty ridge]

There's no exact date, but a reasonable expectation would be late December at earliest, and most likely some point during January

[solemn coral]

kinda insane that i've matched with the same boss rusher 5 times in a row

[nocturne scarab]

Not at all. Get used to groundhog day. Especially in a small pond.

[solemn coral]

guess so, takes me back to Airmech's tiny playerbase

[wind juniper]

dead game looool

[solemn coral]

would be nice if the matchmaking didn't guarantee 1 juiced out all atri true dmg player to rule the match every time

[wind juniper]

team on em

thems the rules now i'm pretty sure

[nocturne scarab]

• when u get ban confirms all the time
• but they're just temporary
• and you know they have numerous accounts
  :)))))))

[mellow pond]

bro did they make ruins like 90% chance in hr im only getting ruins

[solemn coral]

imagine being an rmt bot for such a small player count game

[winged citrus]

yes

[nocturne scarab]

feels like it for me

[elfin burrow]

I got trashwater 12 times in a row. Maybe I'm just unlucky.

[coarse star]

yeah I get hella water map until im tryna sting ray farm. today got like 11 crypts 1 gobbys 1 ice map 1 water map when trying to do stingray

[stiff kite]

lol ez ban TTV kepler rat

[zealous hemlock]

Revert sorc spell casting nerfs

[paper sail]

Why does cuttthroat not show up on rogues hands anymore? Kinda fkin stupid not having a way to know or not if they have it proced

[lone coral]

So cute

[winged citrus]

@proud copper put the water map back into rotation pls

[gloomy pivot]

5 MIN IN QUEUE FOR HIGH ROLLER HAHAHAHAHA'

7 MINUYRWA HhHAHAHAHAHAA

[misty ridge]

Requeue atp

[floral nest]

This game is actively pushing me away...
I hate the other maps that aren't Forgotten castle, I play a normal run and get some decent gear, gem it up and polish it off using the market, invest around 2k for an early cheap kit.

Twice in a row now, I've Q'd into HR, first time Goblin caves next to two nightmare archers and they two tapped me to the dome instantly.
Next time, same thing, this time Ice Caves, small room, two nightmare hallies, double domed - dead.
I HATE the other maps they are so fucking shit but I can only take blue gear into normals.

I would rather fight two subbosses on spawn than two nightmare mobs. holy fuck, I try to like this game, I want to like this game, it just pisses me off so much.

[royal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[elfin burrow]

Not to mention that bossing is a joke on some classes. Oh you're running lower debuffs, especially on cleric, guess every queue is going to be crypts with a lich, etc. You can't actually run the right setup in HR because you get random bs and some setups work better vs some bosses.

[broken pagoda]

Just say you don't know how to PVE

[floral nest]

Say what you want, I'm not claiming to be a pro. I'm trying to enjoy the game.

[cinder current]

hey i havent played in a while, is there any difference in loot with adventure high roller and pvp high roller?

[gloomy pivot]

yes

[cinder current]

how different is it?

or just like no named items in adventure

[gloomy pivot]

very

you'll get legendaries from pretty much every lions head or golden chest in normal, not the case in adventure

[thick star]

oh really, what I meant is me killing the boss solo and then usually 2-3 people killing me and lootin tootin together it happens about 20% of the games if i were to guess:)

[winged citrus]

add map rotation already @proud copper

No one likes random maps when we have to prep to do certain things.

[restive sinew]

Yea thats what I meant too, having people team up just to fight you and not fight each other is stupid

[haughty bloom]

People are such awful trolls dude im trying to learn cave troll so I can do him more in normal runs in pvp but no when I try him in adventure I get fully unique geared people purposely taunting the boss to the door way making the troll regen and making him act weird asf fucking with his rotation like dude why tf are these fully unique kitted players in adventure doing this

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah adventure is awful, i'd run squires so you can at least stab those guys

[haughty bloom]

Well you cant stab those guys because they legit close the boss door when you get close to them had one do it in adventure I was trying to leave because I got low and the dude closed the door on me to purposely get me killed

[nocturne scarab]

because they got bent so hard in pvp

[haughty bloom]

Just for him to solo cave troll after in 18 seconds because he has insane damage lmao

I miss the full on just pvp days

[nocturne scarab]

would be top dollar if he messaged you and said "know your place"

[haughty bloom]

Lmao that would be great

[topaz scarab]

@hexed adder Has there been an update in the court case at all? Havent been able to find any coverage or an upcoming court date.

[nocturne scarab]

https://youtu.be/eiV8FYOEjdw

[latent iron]

epic pourpoint 3 strength price check

[neon anvil]

would anyone be able to help me for a cyclops kill?

[nocturne scarab]

50g

[latent iron]

ok so i take the legendary double axe with 2 vigor

[nocturne scarab]

also 50g

[latent iron]

[neon anvil]

nvm muscle memory the goat

[quaint carbon]

in nexon we trust. gotta hope nexon liberates this game from these clueless devs

[nocturne scarab]

I knew there was a reason you liked druid so much :p
jk

[hazy orbit]

whens wipe???????????????

[viscid holly]

Player count check?

[hazy orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/atlas3dss-atlas3dss-begging-atlas3dss-poor-atlas3dss-homeless-gif-25927308

when is wipe???????

when is wipe

when is wipe???? anyone????

[viscid holly]

Lets add zone circle to HR they said, it'll he fun they said.

[odd prairie]

im still amazed that it took two years of dev time to add bllockcinig to every weapon

[viscid holly]

So basically all they had to do was keep 124s in goblin caves because thats all that was after like 2 weeks into wipe

[nocturne scarab]

this game needs handcuffs, ropes, base building, and custom sprays

[turbid elbow]

and tamable dinosaurs

[nocturne scarab]

+1

[nocturne scarab]

never played ark
got into aoc and met a breeder from that game
😐

and let me preface, i feed horses to horses in rust so

[turbid elbow]

dont play it, dedicated 9k hours into it, it sucked

[livid chasm]

just got the craziest bug

was on the water map and i was like, idk how to describe it, perma shifted?
like im walking around and just stuttering back and forth, i thought i was lagging, but my duo said it just looked like i was shift walking. surely enough, i go into the water and im permanently losing lots of oxygen because the game thinks im holding shift. i tried interacting with stuff, pressing shift, crouching, nothing fixed it. such a weird bug

[nocturne scarab]

yeah i had my fill with rust
i dont think ill go back to that genre for a bit xD

[nocturne scarab]

could try getting on a boat to see if that resets

[livid chasm]

i did try, didnt work 😔

[nocturne scarab]

[turbid elbow]

it was dope to build a raft with cages on it, go tranq some dudes and put them in the cages; kinda top trolling potential but gets old rly quick

[nocturne scarab]

Dont you just start collections at that point?

I used to play Conan Exiles - one guy always hunted thralls that were blonde, 32c, etc etc

[turbid elbow]

DaD players saying game is toxic, should try being a blonde in conan

[small kernel]

the hell are diamonds even for if you cant use them for slotting

[turbid elbow]

you can change them at treasurer; a diamond can be changed into any other gem type of same quality

[small kernel]

thanks i was mad confused

[turbid elbow]

in the past they were used for stats modification in goldsmith; but they changed that this season, no stats at goldsmith. np

[ocean lintel]

is there a way to get the different skeleton race varients anymore?

[fallen crypt]

any news from the court case yet?

we were supposed to hear this month and it’s almost december

[hybrid sequoia]

is the game ok?
can't accept quests, can't que up, can't see leaderboards as if stuff hasn't loaded properly

and apparently just my net died

[turbid elbow]

it's you boss, am inside dungeon

[hexed adder]

Black Friday 🏃‍♂️ 🏃 🏃‍♀️ 🏃‍♂️

[ocean lintel]

is it true that sorcerer got

nerfed into the ground, or are ppl exaggerating

[acoustic nymph]

yup

[ocean lintel]

to which part

[acoustic nymph]

Idk, I lied.... I haven't played this game in a minute 🙂

[ocean lintel]

alr, anyway, how do I choose new class roles

in this server I mean, bc I couldn't choose sorcerer, it didn't exist back then

[acoustic nymph]

Lowkey don't know, I remember it giving me an option when I first join.

Joined*

[ocean lintel]

nvm I figured it out, you gotta go to

[acoustic nymph]

Okay I see

[ocean lintel]

channels & roles at the top, then scroll down, and you can re-interact with the join option things

[acoustic nymph]

Ahh, thank you twin

[acoustic nymph]

Why

[turbid elbow]

what that means sir? we about to have a DaD steam sell? thanks

[ember snow]

EWW

[crystal jewel]

Patch 69 was peak DaD

[latent iron]

BRING BACK PATCH 67

[dreamy vine]

Click on server and choose what you play

[crystal jewel]

left the game a long time ago and I am just curious, is it still alive?
How many players online in general and how is the content?

[sudden hatch]

contents decent playercounts at about 10k

[turbid elbow]

at the moment there are ~5.4k platers online, we got two months ago(new season) a new map, new gear, 50+ perks were changed; try it if curious

[static lava]

is armor penetration good?

or should I just go with true phys?

[turbid elbow]

true is bis

[static lava]

ohhh ok ok

does that goes the same way with magic penetration and true magic right?

i'll give a scenario:

im a warlock using curse of pain, so i should just go with true magic? because the tick damage is strong

second secenario:

im a wizard using fireball should i just go with true magic as well? or go magic penetration because fireball has a huge damage?

thank you!!!

[turbid elbow]

true is bis boss. if you lock you want max true dmg to make the curses scale dmg; if wizard you also want max true dmg for scaling; true is bis in any scenario for dmg scaling

[hybrid sequoia]

all offensive casters always want maxed out true, nothing else is relevant so get the true then stack whatever you want

[static lava]

thank you! i will do as you say. there's just a lot of stats to choose from the goldsmith.

[turbid elbow]

as a caster, get true everywhere you can, also gem/get max hp anywhere you can. after that try balancing ms with agi pieces if needed

[static lava]

tysm

[turbid elbow]

no worries, try to have fun; it's super hard as solo caster out there in the current meta so can get frustrating. rogue just steals our lunch money

[hybrid sequoia]

not that hard really, I was hopelessly destroyed by a sorc earlier, but then again, what even a cleric can do to a sorc?

[turbid elbow]

true, havent seen that many sorcs tho after the recent nerfs. but ye rock paper scissors game...solos will always be like that

[hybrid sequoia]

same case as post druid nerf, bad ones got filtered out, so only the good ones remain, and they are scary, I couldn't escape, I couldn't close in, I could just as well just stop and let him kill me, not like I could touch him anyway, melee class isn't ever touching a good sorc

[turbid elbow]

they figured out CC implementation and went all in with it on sorc; share some of those

[hybrid sequoia]

"the raw dmg class with no utility" they said
50% of spells utility and cc packed on top of highest dmg

wiz the "utility caster" in comparison can lock doors for few secs and throw a slow flying torch kek

[turbid elbow]

meanwhile last spell added to wizard: 15 March 2024, Magic Lock...how about some Ice spells some blizzard action

[hybrid sequoia]

all of casters except for sorc need some new spells to expand their builds

[little turret]

When is the next wipe

[sudden hatch]

true is ALWAYS the better choice

[sudden hatch]

inna month or so no exact date

[turbid elbow]

what is coming new season is the question, will just be a wipe + removal of circle? sdf needs to share in the kitchen

[hybrid sequoia]

incorrect, its weapon dependend, slower weapons with higher dmg shouldn't stack true

[hybrid sequoia]

we, we are coming to another game
jk, we'll still have to wait here for s8 and for s9 mistfal hunter gets released

[sudden hatch]

yeah well slow weapons are boring!!! im running 45as 15%pp rogue!!! we stick people in here!!!

[sudden hatch]

hell if i know might be a semi wipe

[eager sand]

Dont give them ideas

[hybrid sequoia]

well, this was supposed to be a make or break season, and for me, its a break

if arc wasn't a shooter with most boring loot I've ever seen in extraction game, I'd probably be there instead

in fact, once I finish my demi grind, might as well wait for next season there

[turbid elbow]

imagine make or break season and you focus your energy on water map shenanigans; it may be cooked. I just want to see the New Training system under development screen. if that is like religion implementation is a wrap for me

[hybrid sequoia]

I do enjoy water map, but fighting nightmare sharks and pirates is.... actual nightmare

new map is also definitely NOT what the game needed, expanded progression, customization, making dungeon not dead-ass unchanged for 2+ years, but noooo, new map with water combat that no one got right since inception of 3d gameplay

[turbid elbow]

it's cute. but imagine you go in HR random and you are a bonk staff fire wiz. you in the water. is cooked...the map is cool ngl, but as proven time and time again fights in water are lame

[hybrid sequoia]

im farming as pve cleric, imagine my thrill everytime I land on maelstrom or GC

[turbid elbow]

welp rip one skill slot, it's just for role play; prime gameplay

[hybrid sequoia]

also had a portal spawn near nightmare shark today, topkek, I made it out alife tho

[hoary osprey]

[hybrid sequoia]

gets the job done, modules cleared in an instant, and even pvp geared people don't always play perfectly, so I always end up on positive balance

[turbid elbow]

ye even with just smite you can pop some fools; cleric is kinda good in solos, ofc rogue ct just cancels your thing but ye you can farm demi quick with aoe

[hybrid sequoia]

as long as cancer circle exist on hr, I'm not even attempting to put effort there

just get to demi asap(in my own temp, playing mornings and forget about the mode

[turbid elbow]

circle+random+continous = everyone having a bad time; sdf understands it but dosnt want to comment out the code. ow well

[hybrid sequoia]

that's the hilarious part, given last kitchen posts

"I know everyone hates it, but it is not possible to remove it over night without warning, it was only possible to pot it back overnight without warning or consequences"

[turbid elbow]

ye he wants to build a whole system to act like the circle...idk why not just remove it in the meantime we 2/3 of the season already it's time for testing on live

[livid chasm]

i honestly dont mind circle, it means more pvp

[hybrid sequoia]

with or without circle, you'll always have pvp spots on maps, graveyard, bridge, center rooms, boss modules, there will ALWAYS be people there

and existence of arena makes circle completely irrelevant, you want all the pvp action, go arena

[turbid elbow]

make points of interest. you know where pvp is, around bosses, or on bridge cuz ppl rushing reds. you dont need a pubg circle

[livid chasm]

i want pvp action with actual stakes, thats why i dont really play arena

[livid chasm]

idk my only problems with it really are just how dark it makes your screen, and how its kinda dumb if youre farming stingray

[hybrid sequoia]

then go to aforementioned modules, if 5 minutes passed you'll never find anyone anyway, geared people take red so only timmies and rats in squire will remain, that is the pvp you're looking for encouraged by circle? these are the stakes? ssf timmis and squire rats?

[turbid elbow]

like ok you farm stingray outside the circle; what's the point of circle, just to inconvene, cuz aint sure scaring no1 with pots to achieve their interest

[livid chasm]

i mean yea i do go to those modules lol, i just dont really get the hate behind the circle at all

what is there at the edge of the map that people want soooo badly that they hate circle so much ?

[hybrid sequoia]

ever bossed on water map on hr?
rooms with piles and treasure also spawn on edges

[livid chasm]

i mean i already mentioned how its dumb if you farm stingray lol, its like 2 messages up

as for people who just farm free piles that are on the edge of the map, i dont really care if they need to slurp down a potion every now and then to sustain that, id rather them at the centre of the map lol

[hybrid sequoia]

well, too bad for you, 85% of players don't like the circle(one of the pre s7 polls) and sdf finally agreed with us on it, you shouldn't pay meds upkeep just because you want to go to specific room

and I am very glad the circle goes, I just hope dementia will not strike sdf again, making him forget for another time why he removed it and put it back in, but its sdf, so that stroke, dementia or the vision delirium is more of a matter of a timer than something thay might not happen

[livid chasm]

where can i find these polls?

[hybrid sequoia]

one of streamers was showcasing it some time ago, don't really remember which one, but it was one of the known ones

by some time ago I mean 2+ months to narrow it down a bit

[livid chasm]

hmm i never heard of that

but yea im not like a hard circle defender, i just dont really get the hate behind it

most of the reasoning i see is pve related rather than pvp, but now that theres a specific pve mode i just dont really see why the community is so up in arms about it

[hybrid sequoia]

because it is - circle doesn't hinder nor encourage pvp, its absolutely pointless for pvp unless you want to hunt that last PvEr who didn't managed to extract early, 1st floors are all done within first 5 minutes when circle didn't even closed, it hinders greatly newer and worse players and it does jack shit for pvp, there is no competition for portals, can't find one, go red

[livid chasm]

i mean in goblin caves ive certainly had competition for portals, i think saying that it does nothing for pvp is stretching the truth a little, but i also do see your point

[hybrid sequoia]

gc doesn't really have red, but it has center, which is all in one, loot spot, pvp hotspot and guaranteed extract

[livid chasm]

exactly, and i think funneling more and more people into mid room is fun, maybe thats just me

[errant isle]

Ain't no way someone in hr voips and says friendly 3 times. Easy kill. Felt like arc raiders for a moment lol.

[hybrid sequoia]

yes, but its a natural funnel, you have incentives to go to mid, you're not forced there

every map should have high value POIs funneling people in

cementary on ruins is the same thing, great loot, extract, pvp hotspot with low pve density there

you will always have people sweating over cementary, no need for circle, and that is my whole point - pvp hotspots shouldn't happen because players are forced into going to a module, they should happen, because players want to go to a module and with random map we already have to pass all the different modules to get there

if SDF wants other modules to be used for PvP, he needs to put there incentives for people to want to go there

[hybrid sequoia]

at least 50% are friendly on HR now, sweats are done and are waiting mainly for arenas or playing artifact trios and peopel in solos, especially at this time are just ap farming

[livid chasm]

but tbh i kinda see extraction points and especially reds as a "point of interest" or hotzone for pvp as kinda problematic in its own right, i actually hate fighting in rooms with reds because a second a team starts losing its just a race for the red

[hybrid sequoia]

leaver opening them for 10 sec with 10 sec interaction time, there, fixed reds

[livid chasm]

god i wish

but seriously haha, thats another reason i dont mind circle, theres a chance that just maybe zone pulls aways from the bridge and i can fight a team who isnt playing with one foot in the red

[errant isle]

Hr spiders slow is kinda stupid lol. Why does it slow you by like 30%?

[foggy jewel]

sup babalock

[hard gust]

dayum

@foggy jewel im guessing im not getting my stuff back

[foggy jewel]

go the tavern bar

[sacred halo]

I only find teamers in HR duo. Yesterday I reported two more, I hope they get permanently banned. How much do you have to suck at the game to team in hr?

One of them had a Chinese name but plays on the Frankfurt servers.

[drifting scaffold]

the teaming bans scale pretty aggressively. goes right from temp ban to season ban, then to perma

it just takes a while since someone has to manually review your report

[misty ridge]

Ironham

[drifting scaffold]

I, RonHam

[misty ridge]

I, Ron Ham, 'er's finest soldier

🍖

[drifting scaffold]

[quaint swift]

is this game fixed yet so i dont go vs 500 gear score people with my squire kit?

[drifting scaffold]

depends if you're playing in the geared modes

[quaint swift]

i wanna go aagainst people with similiar gear score how do i do that

[late bolt]

theres a trios squire mode rn if thats what u want

[quaint swift]

i play solo though

[late bolt]

its kind of fun cus its just pvp all the time. but normals is capped at blue gear so ull see people with minmaxed gear but idk dont think its htat bad

otherwise just queue with randoms in squire if u expect to see 0 geared people ever

[ember snow]

@hexed adder delete the 'do not fill empty' pls

[final monolith]

LONGSWORD BUG FEELS GREAT WHEN YOU PARRY BUT NOTHING HAPPENS
KEEP RELEASING MAPS NOBODY WANTS (THEY MANAGED TO MAKE ONE WORSE THAN ICE WOW)

[trail nimbus]

Crazy how you cant go invis underwater

[feral pike]

whats the state of the game rn compared to a few months ago?

[somber arrow]

New map, couple other new systems/content things but no surge in players

[supple drift]

Hey guys, do you remember that Sdf said that Terrence will be responsible for quiver in the next wipe or is it monk class?

[atomic schooner]

you have to press the block button again for the longsword to do something :)

[feral pike]

but would you personally that its in a better position than before?

because i know when i stopped playing everything was going very very downhill

[somber arrow]

Personally, no

[marble pond]

can we rename the oceanic server to china town?

[tough jay]

can we rename the game to chinger and chonger

[slender raptor]

can we delete druid while we're at it?

[tough jay]

can we delete sdf next patch?

[red sentinel]

No

[unique token]

Good morning everyone!

[flat silo]

🔥 🔥 🔥

[timber orbit]

when everyone needed Salacious B. Dump the most, he returned

[timber orbit]

Vince McMahon

[wispy lark]

Why do u guys still play this game

[hoary plume]

I come here to watch the angry comments on discord, I play maybe once a month now and that's just to larp and throw torched and people and be a nuisance

[median beacon]

Salacious never left. Just needed to recharge

[edgy hatch]

literally same, maybe get hooked for a month or less and quit again

[timber orbit]

i've been taking a bit of a break for other releases and my midterms, but i'll be back very soon myself

[alpine moth]

Yeah I mostly just play arena. Trying to get the lowest possible rating. I’m at 590 on fighter.

My teammates are not happy I’m on their team. I have given out over 22000 seconds of team-kill ban time on my journey to the bottom.

[hoary plume]

👑 here king you dropped this

[edgy hatch]

Thanks for inspiration.

[empty halo]

gyatt

[hoary plume]

do you go squire kit or what's thr kit

[vapid island]

thought you dont lose your gear in adventure mode? suicided out and never got my gear back lol

[alpine moth]

Red lizard skin, boots, and a void blade. Pavise.

Funny thing is that at that level, I can typically 1v3 with parries alone. So I’ll get yelled at for not having gear, but still do 2x / 3x dmg by the time we lose.

Because I’m naked teammates will instantly goto hitting me at the start of the round.

+500 seconds to banned timer

[hoary plume]

God I love when people flame your kit and then you just go "scoreboard"

[alpine moth]

Fr. To be honest, that’s my biggest gripe for the gear system.

This game is AMAZING when people are at equal level. But BiS gear can carry a shit player sooo much. So there is just a bunch of gear checking.

People that low have decent gear, but they just suck so they assume you need gear to even compete.

Instead: Parry + Victory Strike = Dead Geared Timmy

[edgy hatch]

I am afraid that nothing will ever feel as good as swinging battle axe at the head of the first goblin I met during demo launch.

Peak gaming moment.

[final monolith]

youre getting the note ragebaiter

[graceful wyvern]

did you have a pavise on water map s2r earlier?

[final monolith]

are u a bard?

[graceful wyvern]

yeah your cleric chased me through like 3 miles of mountains and a druid died l0l

i fought you in the water if you were the pavise guy

[final monolith]

yeah druid was big timbo and at that point where i was in the storm i kinda full sent it
was lmao

[graceful wyvern]

shit was straight out of pirates of the caribbean

[drifting scaffold]

damn demon form bare hands feels so bad

[final monolith]

pavise underwater; slept on? did i sprint and kill myself and drown? 100%
also the mobs x(

[final monolith]

yeah they should buff it more

[graceful wyvern]

i saw your name in death feed and wondered if that was you, but didnt understand how you might have died if it was you

[edgy hatch]

post video, now

[graceful wyvern]

my nvidia record is too unreliable

[drifting scaffold]

it doesn't need a buff just the animation updated a bit

[final monolith]

haha yes i drowned there was me

[edgy hatch]

blud you cant type shit like that and leave us hanging

[median beacon]

It just has no range and the demon healing skill is quite good imo so something has to be bad

So they chose to make the damage and range terrible

[drifting scaffold]

it feels like it has less range than my actual bare fists

[final monolith]

skill issue

[drifting scaffold]

never said it wasn't

[final monolith]

im just playin LK i saw some demons in s2r and they are nasty kinda, w double healer it would go brrrrrrrrr
maybe get more MS?

[median beacon]

Yeah it probably does

[lament sparrow]

Anyone else have their game stutter so bad randomly on the water map? I couldn't move and it was going nuts and some dude came up and beat me to death while i was stuttering in place

[final monolith]

shadow touch probly worth it more than souls collector

[lament sparrow]

Game was fine until i got on a boat

[graceful wyvern]

i spawned like next to blue's team, his cleric is chasing me with terrifying speed, i aggroed like 30 mobs, i had druid cleric and pavise pdr fighter chasing my skinny ass. i reach a ladder and camp the top with the cleric staring at me, the mobs all back up on the druid behind the cleric and the druid eats shit. cleric cleans up the pve and only blue is chasing me

i am full on chugging beers and just shift w keying as far as i can and blue is still coming after me so i post up on a deck and start shooting at him while he's in the water

he gets closer so i jump in the water again and start fluting, which is a mistake because now 5 mobs are also on me

but it does enough damage he has to run and he drowns offscreen while i make my getaway into the circle

[final monolith]

also, many crossbows shots were blocked with a pavise which is kinda weird underwater but eh

[edgy hatch]

cinema!

[flat summit]

no black friday legendary status discount

[nocturne scarab]

pavise should be able to be used as a raft
cmv

[edgy hatch]

blackfriday is new scam monday, just buy yourself a coin pouch for 9000 gold.

[graceful wyvern]

pavise raft, halberd oar

[woeful elk]

does anyone know if the changed spectral

Why does it start with a under swing

it usally does the stab at first the under or overswing

[nocturne scarab]

He'll combo off of his thrust mechanic now in HR - idk about norms or pve but he'll do one of two moves - either high or low spin. Maybe he does other stuff, I don't think so off the top of my head only fought him a handful of times since the change.

*has a chance to

Not only at the end of the thrust but if he leaps back to look to perform the thrust as well

[woeful elk]

THE thing is when he spawned he auto did it

[nocturne scarab]

maybe a bug -- like his 30 second timer for his pool ability and if he was alive or sleeping for x(seconds) and etc

or ur saying he did his spins on spawn? which is nbd
thats always happened

he'll even shoulder bash 3x in a row on spawn sometimes because fk u

[late bolt]

seriously tho why are there random pitch black spots eveywhere in ruins but goblin caves u can see everything. the map has just shit shaders lmao

also if ur gonna make ppl play watermaps for the love of god add more ropes between the islands

i knwo nobody uses them but theyrem ore fun than the boats

[brittle ginkgo]

Did the game get any better?

[late bolt]

dw about it king

[drifting scaffold]

can't even get ppl playing water map to use the secret passages

[late bolt]

well the ropes are more obvious. imo it would make the map better csu it would be less abotu door camping and when u rope ur all in fighting ppl. but theres so few and theyre in awkward spots with pve people dont bother with

[misty ridge]

He can do that now

[late bolt]

as in other maps with the door camping i meant

[misty ridge]

He's a big boy with big boy attacks

All grown up

[woeful elk]

shits annoying af

[misty ridge]

He's grown more powerful

Warlord should be more powerful too, I think

Give Warlord a sword-staff like Darth Maul

[wind juniper]

warlord attacks now chain twice as fast, and can repeat

[misty ridge]

wonderful idea

Warlord now has Bladehand Ballista

[wind juniper]

warlord dashes into the wall shooting electric beams to all the crystals still up

[proud blaze]

i somehow just now ran into my first named mob damn they're rare

[nocturne scarab]

warlord now does the sheathed katana meme slash

[proud blaze]

pretty satisfying tho

[wind juniper]

warlord kinda drippy he could get away w it

[misty ridge]

Warlord now summons 8 mini Warlords with the same HP as his normal minions in their place

Could you imagine

[wind juniper]

each of them puts a pizza slice down

all this boss work and gk still has a singular attack

gk should cover someone with his blanket and he can control them

[proud blaze]

named mobs should have special attacks. give grottox a riposte

[wind juniper]

then he’s just a nightmare armor

he should summon a dark souls boss

[proud blaze]

i saw the named skelly in a video and its just a footman with a viking helmet 😭

they should have AURA

[wind juniper]

warbone does have aura excuse you

[proud blaze]

warbone is so goofy

make him throw frannies or sumn

or give him a viking roar when he wakes up

or be any faster than a regular skelly lol

[wind juniper]

they should move and act like nightmare mobs minimum

speed wise at least

[proud blaze]

yea at the very least they shouldnt be easier

than a nightmare version

[fallen crypt]

warlord gave me slop

[wind juniper]

believable, he looks freaky

[robust rampart]

🐀

[nocturne scarab]

just walked between two landmine rogues trying to landmine each other
they let me go because they both thought the other one didnt know they were there

i looked back to see them touch tips and bounce off each other like two scared cats

[red shoal]

is the stingray egg unobtanium?

i really want the skin but no one is selling it or anything 😭

[median beacon]

It’s pretty much impossible to get

[wind juniper]

time to learn some stingray fellas, be the egg seller you wanna see in others

[gilded topaz]

They bring multiclassing back yet? Not playing until they do

buds

[nocturne scarab]

10 kills on stingray today no egg 🥴

[lethal bay]

I wish! I'm always in vote for it and even suggestion it being added to pve mode only so it doesnt ruin pvp. I can only hope multiclass was so much fun!

[wind juniper]

i killed 2 last week no egg 🙄 r we fr

[nocturne scarab]

the fact that the stingray egg doesnt drop for me every time i hit menu is obnoxious
waddefuk rubber mallet

[wind juniper]

stingray egg should drop off the pirates

and baby turtles and mermaids

[wicked stream]

yo

can someone help me with my legacy account

[crude blaze]

@rancid bane is my favorite moderator <3

[solemn coral]

jesus i just got 100 to 0'd by a crossbow skelly

[visual swallow]

first time, huh

[hazy hawk]

one of my sources said that he's expecting! 🫃 congratulations! 🫃

[drifting scaffold]

🫃

[crude blaze]

my bad

[stuck tangle]

Hey im trying to learn the ice wyvern on sorceror is there anybody willing to help me ? Or can someone dm me the link for the discord server to request a "knight"

[visual swallow]

there's a button in game for the knight discord

[stuck tangle]

Ah ye mb

[lost radish]

how much is elven and lad worth?

[wispy obsidian]

How can i run faster or sneak on controller, why do i need click shift on the keyboard for it to work

[misty ridge]

At least 1g

I think

[woven widget]

its 50g

[solemn coral]

full plate fighter, i die in 2 hits by a 41 strength cleric in blues, awesome

[woven widget]

0% mdr

[wispy obsidian]

Get gud frfr ong ong

[reef horizon]

someone can send me if poss a budget ranger build (longbow/surv/shortsword with quickshot/shootgun ) around 1500/2k5 max for solo plz ? (i use blue trap+trap mastery )

[fresh vigil]

Do yall know where to get this **Giant Horn **quest item? the internet is lost on this

[winged citrus]

make it so fighters are slower underwater with plate gear

[woven widget]

make it so fighters let their big muscle's out when underwater

[drifting scaffold]

they already are and make lots of noise too

[warm fable]

But according to science, water makes things feel lighter when you're swimming or floating in it.

[valid topaz]

at what point do we get a way to know hr que order haha

[wispy obsidian]

Ummm actually physics and its different when it comes to a human having above his weight and shit 🤓

[spare lily]

how about just let us choose which map WE wannna play

[fresh vigil]

Giant Horn Where

[wind juniper]

then make them heavy as shit coming out of water 🤔 bully them into wanting to stay in the water all game

[fresh vigil]

Mass Graves for Warlocks when?

[final monolith]

ive been getting more and more dead lobbies in HR and norms, feels like the only action i can find is arena or squire to riches? can anyone confirm or was i unlucky

[wind juniper]

confirmed, dead game

[fresh vigil]

Magic Users will face the wall

[drifting scaffold]

abomination

[alpine moth]

Swap to the servers that are “dead.” And farm the Chinese gold farmers

Beware of esp

[fresh vigil]

tank u, you will be last to die in the magic user mass killings

[final monolith]

oh the clerics + warlocks teamers eh i want to trio or duo with BIS not hunt down bossers with budget gear

[drifting scaffold]

oh I don't really play casters

[alpine moth]

Out of luck then. Best you’ll get is norms juicers sometimes.

[final monolith]

it is as i feared, then. i shall go back to squires and arena then

[trail arrow]

why do I never see wizards in gob caves but the moment I switch to surv bow ranger I had to fight 3 in a row and then get 3rd partied by a fighter

[hallow gust]

PLS REMOVE WATER MAP FROM HR POOL PSLPSLSPLSL

[marble pond]

Sums up the oceanic server, full xiaodongs farming and using esp in HR

[olive torrent]

can we please remove the Boring crap Water map of S2R, Its awful

[supple drift]

why? is it swimming part?

[arctic heath]

its the pvp

[haughty bloom]

does will increase smite damage on cleric?

[woven widget]

no because smite is definately physical damage

[haughty bloom]

whats the point of being an ass?

[woven widget]

I get paid 2 dollars by china for every player I tilt

[haughty bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mirohtron-the-amazing-world-of-gumball-the-line-awog-cartoon-network-gif-20657143

[primal sphinx]

watermap should be choice only ever, because certain classes are MASSIVELY disadvantaged due to no casting certain spells underwater. so basically you ahve to choose only certain classes because you dont know what map is coming.

[woven widget]

ok but what do you play

[haughty bloom]

ranger prob

[ashen smelt]

Who up darking they darker rn

[woven widget]

my wife

[primal sphinx]

depends on the game mode

[wind juniper]

i can’t believe these silly wizards have the audacity to think their fireballs should cast underwater

[woven widget]

I am borat

[haughty bloom]

what was the point behind of making gold stack to 10 in the bank seems like a silly choice

[woven widget]

gold storage is the only endgame we have

[haughty bloom]

besides gold sinking in to gold bags and crap

[wind juniper]

real

[delicate ibex]

We need to stick to realistic scenarios like fully armored knights swinging warhammers and reloading cross bows underwater.

[woven widget]

5 dollars and youre in bis frfr

[wind juniper]

exactly you get it

what’s the mysterious liquid on the other maps btw cause you can fireball in and through those

[woven widget]

sdf told me that if I prevent 4 more rmt's this week he'll give me a kiss on my toes after he paints them

[woven widget]

oil

cast a fireball in it and you blow up

[wind juniper]

i thought it was mummy children

[woven widget]

dude honestly I cant bring myself to play this game anymore its so ass...

like I love it but dude sdf keeps on twiddling his thumbs

[wind juniper]

not even a meme anymore or funny to hate on it’s just dead and there’s nothing to be done

[woven widget]

I wanna play it, I loved the game but I think its stockholm syndrome dude

[keen briar]

Why is my game so mid? 😔

[wind juniper]

was kind of a ha ha when there were still line holders but they are loooong gone

[woven widget]

they held me captive with promises of greatness and now I cant just hop on and play a little bit of arena without wishing for better days

lowk, might have to do more larping

[cerulean sandal]

Does anyone wanna q arc raiders w me

[woven widget]

Imma go larp robin hood for the 4 chinese people on my map

(that was a joke, theres also 2 russians)

quickfill is the best feature ever added

I love watching clips of people vendoring their entire stash on accident shits funny as hell

[wind juniper]

considering he only pulls from your inventory and you have to manually select a tab for him to pull from there, those goofballs deserve it

[woven widget]

yeah and thats why I laugh

say bye bye arena kit

[mortal jasper]

Vendoring your entire stash is diabolical

[clever cloud]

Already demigod on the test servers. Its too easy boys.

[drifting scaffold]

they said it can't be done

[ivory rose]

Can we PLEASE have week long arena mode?

[sacred lodge]

dumb question but does higher magical healing = more healing from pots or no

[light talon]

why was region lock removed?

[stark osprey]

how long to except to wait for a high roller game

[light talon]

seconds

[stark osprey]

6 minutes 27 seconds is how long it took

[light talon]

cancel and restart the que. it bugs out sometimes

[torn kettle]

what do we think about teamming ?

[boreal warren]

@vale oar YOU GET BANNED ON TEST SERVER IF U GO ON WATER MAP MAN

will we have to wait another 2 months for an update 😢

[timid hollow]

Is it agianst rules to team in Normals?

[drifting scaffold]

not in the dungeon itself, no

[drifting scaffold]

the weighed the risk of players farming dead regions with players from those dead regions being able to play with others and decided to give it back

[coarse star]

didn't help with the issues it wanted to solve and locked a lot of players to more dead servers and was just overall worse

[merry quiver]

guys what drops human remains

[drifting scaffold]

blood prison in inferno, it has a chance to spawn on the ground near the chest, past the gate

[merry quiver]

oh i thought it was a drop from abomination. Thx

[drifting scaffold]

good luck that one took me a little bit. I recommend normal mode pve seems low rate

[merry quiver]

[modest echo]

@merry quiver when you open the gate, it’s to your left on the ground

[drifting scaffold]

[light talon]

anyone else getting choppy frames today?

[compact stirrup]

do i do true phys or add phys on barb

[hybrid sequoia]

you never do true on barb

[compact stirrup]

k just making sure

i did add phys but second guessed

[hollow fulcrum]

if you're really confident you're hitting them in the head do add, otherwise true is better

[visual swallow]

na barb got big phys power and slower attacks

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah, but unless you hit their head true is always giving you more than add. the only benefit to add is that its effected by headshot multi

[stiff mauve]

holy shit i haven't played in like 3-4 months but.. just logged on and saw that there's only 4k players... is the game dead now? or is this just an unusual low amount?

[visual swallow]

mmm no?

[crimson vigil]

Let me fix all your issues. Allow me to introduce u to Arc Raiders

[cunning ore]

No will to play with the water map, don't want to risk my gear in a map I don't want to play. Plus there was a ton of other games I got to try in the meantime also.

[hollow fulcrum]

yes?

[visual swallow]

no? body shot multiplier is > 1.0 even if you don't get a headshot and barbs will always have good phys power

[hollow fulcrum]

phys power means nothing

[visual swallow]

what is body shot mult right now? 1.25?

[cunning ore]

1

[hollow fulcrum]

isn't it 1.0 again?

[visual swallow]

oh did it get nerfed back down

[hollow fulcrum]

yeah they lowered it again

same time they made headshot 1.75 instead of 2

[somber echo]

https://tenor.com/view/arcraiders-arc-tarkov-gif-4047999324575620030

[drifting scaffold]

[limber osprey]

Add phys doesn't scale with phys power u silly lil guy

[drifting scaffold]

it adds … phys power…

[hollow fulcrum]

add phys damage, not phys power

[drifting scaffold]

Oh sorry I thought he meant +1/2 physical power

[nocturne scarab]

what'd you just fkin say to me buddy?

[woven widget]

Im at 4 dollars now

[nocturne scarab]

I have Intermittent Explosive Disorder and dementia - we're gonna be printing money soon.

[woven widget]

Its only 2 dollars for each unique player

youre my special snowflake but you arent unique

[nocturne scarab]

that sucks
i went and gave myself dementia for this

[woven widget]

oops :3

[nocturne scarab]

oh well, i forgot anyways

[static zodiac]

wowee

[stiff kite]

the mobs in this video game are absolutely atrocious

[wind juniper]

rest easy tavern chat my sweet prince, you’ve had a good journey

[sleek fern]

@proud copper you destroyed the game everyone's leaving

[low pier]

What support class are you guys most happy about seeing on your team? I am trying to pick a third main.

[rich raptor]

bard

[deep musk]

tapping in to say i told you so about the water map being a terrible idea @proud copper

[wind juniper]

@proud copper shoulda listened to the jons bro he told you

[low pier]

Why would you prefer a bard over say hey cleric?

[rich raptor]

@proud copper the jons knows all listen to the man

[wind juniper]

cleric suck

[rich raptor]

heal cleric is useless when isolated

bard is basically fighter with buffs