the-tavern

[fierce zephyr]

arc raiders and tarkov wipe rlly burried this game for good.

[drifting scaffold]

like what

[wide otter]

Make sure to never touch rogue, hes really balances rn 🙂

[fierce zephyr]

this might go down as the most failed extraction game ever

[molten flume]

Exemple: No SK circular attacks dont need vertical sword attack to active

[drifting scaffold]

the big whirlwind move can just happen now, cool

[wide otter]

Near rogue already bruh

[cunning crypt]

skill issue 🥱
doesnt take more that 3 seconds to look at a map, especially if you do it before you start a round dumb fr brh

[storm dirge]

NO PATCH IS BROKEN ANNOUNCEMENT? holy shit FUTUREEE

[vale oar]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-excited-screaming-ape-chimp-gif-8603043096089045865

[gritty ermine]

we need penguin buff next

[tender ledge]

have to say it is impressive, we are improving for sure

[low basin]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-lebron-james-meme-funny-gif-3425517799009042574

[lapis birch]

yo wtf no patch delay? what is going on?

[misty ridge]

they nerfed spectral?

[clever cloud]

More wizard nerfs?

[molten flume]

No

[drifting scaffold]

yo swimming in water is nice

[gritty ermine]

am I trippin or is the 7 sec auto que back?

[slate hawk]

the 5% MS makes a good difference, noticable?

[molten flume]

Ill post a gammeplay video showing it

[crisp bobcat]

are we supposed to have patch delay?

[gritty ermine]

its a step into the right direction

[slate hawk]

badum-tish

[lapis birch]

its like tradition, its the rule

[wheat smelt]

da fuq is warlock exploitation strike

[lapis birch]

demon special attack with hands

[crisp bobcat]

lmao...

[brisk kite]

anyone else having issues connecting to servers?

[wheat smelt]

daang demon form viable now?

[ember snow]

player these days... doesn't know Warlock demon form
sad to Warlock Blood Patch

[misty ridge]

I think sdf watched me continuously die to Bladehand in HR and went "we gotta nerf that"

[ember snow]

But outmeta

[deep stratus]

why am I loading into ice map from ruins, just let me play my crypts, can't fkn believe this dogwater dev company

[keen lintel]

Bro Shu I’m not saying sorc is some free win or whatever, it’s has a high skill cap for a reason, that’s the whole point. Sorc has the highest ceiling in the game and that’s why it looks weak when most people play it, bc they don’t know what they’re doing. That doesn’t make it a bad class, it just means ppl don’t wanna put in the time. You keep talking about wizard dmg but your not fully realizing sorcs potential it has with unlimited spells, it has stupid movement and if you get caught in a real combo you’re just dead. Yeah it’s hard to land bc they can matrix it. Most ppl can’t pull it off so they think the class is trash. That’s why you barely see sorcs, the class is just way harder to actually play than wiz. If you take two good players sorc would dominate wiz. But it also doesn’t mean sorc is OP, it’s just not the weakest class like you’re saying lol. You said WAYY earlier that I’m baiting, but I’m not, Ive played it, Ive died to it, and I’ve killed with it. I’m literally just saying sorc has the highest skill requirement in the whole game and only a handful of ppl can actually show what it can do. (Sorry for the late response btw, phone died)

[drifting scaffold]

🤣 hilarious bug, people have also experienced the opposite. going to abyss and loading into crypts

[cunning crypt]

lmfao

[candid pollen]

i played hundreds of sorc games and interacted with players better than me. Its definitely on weaker end. Sorc would not dominate wiz with equal skill EVER

[drifting scaffold]

we gotta give the other frostlight armor the same look as the light trousers ... blinding my eyes

[somber path]

wizard is 10x better then sorc if equally skilled

[rain forge]

bro wiz is just by essence a hard counter to sorc, obviously you don't dominate it, think a minute please

[fringe elm]

Been in a gaming low remember having a lil fun in this game it in decent shape to return to?

[shy linden]

sdf go playdiablo still nerifing dnd

[keen lintel]

100%

[stiff kite]

people dont understand the differences in playstyle and counters in this game

[honest garnet]

Have to agree, sorc can firewall frost lightning elebolt in about 5 seconds and only if the elebolt hits head does it match 3 zaps in 3 seconds

[wary mantle]

Buddy got levitate combo'd once in squire must be a winnable matchup for sorc clearly

[keen lintel]

But at the same time, no

[drifting scaffold]

yeah there's easy modes to jump into now with low stakes

[candid pollen]

[fringe elm]

Ay fair enough

[fringe elm]

Actually a good question i should ask before going in are people still somewhat blood thirsty in pvp?

[honest garnet]

GIVE ME YOUR SOUL TIMBO

[fringe elm]

So is that a yes???

[honest garnet]

yes lmao

[fringe elm]

Kk thx

[honest garnet]

There’s still a few fun RPers running around tho

[keen lintel]

Brev, WE are just going in circles atp, I’ve stated my case with many good reasons, but your just giving the same response every time. If a Sorc and a wizard had the SAME skill, then they’d both be able to dodge each others spells, MEANING, if the wizard isn’t using spell overload , than they WOULD run out of spells, resulting in the Sorcs victory

[fringe elm]

Ayyyy as long as i can get at least one or two people that don't kill me on sight I'll be happy means there's hope

[candid pollen]

it doesnt work like that

[ember snow]

Bring shield so you can counter Soc

[stiff kite]

this wouldnt work anyways because of the game design. if both players were equally skilled and geared it would come down to whether or not the sorc wants to risk pushing through a doorway into fireball and explosion spam in order to try and hit a frost lightning into bolt

[keen lintel]

why? give me a reason, I’ve given you many reasons, you have given me like 5

[candid pollen]

wizard has more options to fuck up. If u miss levitate or frost you lose.
Assume you dont miss them - then you still are outdpsed by wizard. Its that simple

[keen lintel]

I was highk picturing this fight in ruins of forgotten castle

[candid pollen]

i countered all of ur "reasons" bruh

[stiff kite]

shu u dont get it, theres many factors in the game and it effects how it is played, that why sorc is arguably much better

[somber path]

thats like saying if u were equally as skilled to a ranger he would miss all his arrows cause u would dodge them all

[knotty pike]

Haha sorcerer nerfed

[keen lintel]

Combos bro, sure you’ve given me good reasons to some of my responses, but not ALL of them lmao, sure if you root them they can matrix but that is still free dmg on the opponent

[summer lion]

ehm sir thats a buff

[stiff kite]

a sorc can easily deal with a barb or cut throat rogue, if rogue jumps on a wiz they die, if barb lands on achilles francisca they will lose.

[hybrid sequoia]

and wizard, because ofc wizard

[keen lintel]

Sad, wizard was so fun, lowk still having a blast on wizard lol

[candid pollen]

what about combos. by the time you cast them u are taking damage

[ember snow]

Only Apex of Sorcery, Time Distortion perks.

But not every soc bring them :v

[keen lintel]

If you land a root, then you move into frost lightning, then from there you move into water, fire merge spell, then they would be out of the root, atp they’d either be dead or REALLLY low

[somber path]

what hes saying is if u land all your spells because the guy took his hands off the keyboard u win

[candid pollen]

what

[kind nova]

Actually a good patch?

[somber path]

so u dont know how the class works and are talking out your ass got it

[knotty pike]

Ehh barely was melt meta?

[keen lintel]

Mained the class for 4 months but hey, I mean it’s whatever

[somber path]

clearly learned nothing the root is frost lightning

[kind nova]

Melt in normals at least was the best part of wizard, allowed for melee comps to not shit rush you

[keen lintel]

Tis what I meant good sir, at the end of the combo they’re either dead or really low

[sand silo]

melt needed a nerf its still a viable perk

[drifting scaffold]

it's not like it's gutted

[wary mantle]

Annnnd the truth comes out in this message right here nice debate bro

[somber path]

u realize most classes are out of the root before u can get elemental bolt off right this isnt the same class it was 2 months ago

[kind nova]

I dont think it is, others were wondering if it was played. This is the best patch ive seen in a while

[keen lintel]

The truth? What truth, that I messed up my phrasing, give me a break, I’m debating three of y’all at once xD

[candid pollen]

the root is frost lightning, which is not a real hit scan + its additionaly telegraphed by extended delay of merging. Some classes escape that by default + you will mostly hit legs to have guaranteed damage.

Go into HR, get yourself in at least top 5 of sorcs then talk to me again

[golden cedar]

clowns

[sand silo]

so ur saying u cant hit a spell unless the target is stationary lmfao get gud

[keen lintel]

If we’re still talking ab the wiz and Sorc equal skill ceiling then the Sorc would land it even IF the root ended lmao

[summer lion]

how he felt saying that insert dog wearing batman mask

[wary mantle]

What phrasing there is no world other then squire maybe where frost lightning ele bolt is enough to "almost" kill anyone unless you headshot them which you won't unless they're a bot

[candid pollen]

[tardy cosmos]

Are the servers even up? keep getting failed to connect 5 times even after reinstall

[drifting scaffold]

ohhh I gotcha. yea agreed this is what the hotfixes should be. minor balance, bug fixes, and QOL

[somber path]

u just said before this if equal skill the wizard would dodge the spells so which is it?

[kind nova]

shouldve given fighter +30 move speed but otherwise its fine 😛

[drifting scaffold]

I guess drop the kite shield and you'll get around there 🤣

[kind nova]

noooooooooo need SWORD and BOARD

[wary mantle]

Equal skill means the sorc will miss sometimes because sorc spells are reactable whereas wizards are not within their killing distance

[kind nova]

What even is this argument? what started it? I wanna yap too!!

[somber path]

tldr equal skill wiz loses to sorc coming to you from make believe land

[keen lintel]

It started off of this good sir, just a debate, I wouldn’t say it’s an argument, I’m not heated and I would say everyone else is level headed aswel

[kind nova]

Id argue wiz is stronger then sorc in a 1v1, it has straight loaded spells and doesnt require cools downs, + Ice bolt allows for multiple roots but Sorc has way better front loaded damage

but what do I know? Im just the sexiest man alive

[keen lintel]

I made the point that wiz has limited spells, and most sorcs run high Ms, cast speed and in some cases, resourcefulness which lowers the spell cooldown

[hoary plume]

I just woke up from my dream because I was dancing to bad romance by Lady gaga

[bold shard]

SDF YAPS TOO MUCH

[candid pollen]

I like to debate up to a point when it becomes pointless. The version of what u are describing works only in your head. Thats why I wont change my stance unless you come back with actual data.

[kind nova]

It depends from gear to gear I guess, Wizard on a door is more scary to me then a sorc, but you also can count out its rotation, sorc is limited to running if its first cycle cant burn you

either way the answer is easy. BUFF FIGHTER

[keen lintel]

I would say that the corridor scenario is ideal for wiz while ruins in the open is the ideal situation for Sorc, although wiz would still excel in open area

[kind nova]

Both are good classes, melt makes the melee match ups more annoying against wizard but sorcs have such an obscene one combo damage lineup that it makes them hard to ignore \

[keen lintel]

But I have changed my stance several times, the “version” that I am describing doesn’t only work in my head it would and can happen in a real fight between the two classes, I respect your points made because I can’t lie, you made some valid ones you made me trip up in my words several times xD

[buoyant sage]

Ugh another sorc spell time increase. I wish they either increased the perks that enhance spell time or something.

[spare gulch]

For the love of god let us choose are HR map

[kind nova]

My data is that I am more handsome than you. Other than that everything is irrelevant

[keen lintel]

There’s a lot of variables between the two classes in what makes either of them better, good points were made by several people, but I will stick to my original point, Sorc has the highest skill ceiling, higher than wizard, in my eyes that makes Sorc the better class because of this ceiling, very few have made it that high because it requires thousands of hours to reach, but it is possible

[kind nova]

Oh if that’s the argument I agree. Plus sorc is just cooler but both are very strong and viable

While we are at it tho GIVE FIGHTER 30 MOVE SPEED INCREASE

[cosmic maple]

class difficulty does not correlate to effectiveness what lol

[buoyant sage]

I also like to think that spell combos add another skill ceiling. Mixing up merge spells and just using the spells themselves is a good difference between good and bad sorcs

[violet stirrup]

BIG W with the quickFill lets go SDF xD

[tropic venture]

Useless patch as always, changing numbers and not even the ones that require change

[kind nova]

I am reading all this while pooping

[stiff kite]

they changed auto fill? is it quicker than it use to be

[buoyant sage]

Make sure to fix your posture

[violet stirrup]

nah you getting confused with matchmaking im saying for selling to merchants like sell items or Treasure

[gritty ermine]

can we please make watermap more regular for hr?

[stiff kite]

oh yeah lol. i will say the quest item qol change is actually really nice

[rancid bane]

Are we being nice in here 🙂

[kind nova]

I hunched over even more

[crisp bobcat]

No

[keen lintel]

I agree with that, you made a really good point

[gritty ermine]

map rotation or map selection would do the job

[rancid bane]

[violet stirrup]

xD

[kind nova]

I am now pooping with my knees above my head

[sand silo]

best way to do it

[sullen sonnet]

[kind nova]

While I’ve got everyone’s attention. Give fighter 30 move speed increase ty

[crisp bobcat]

No

[kind nova]

Bad take

[violet stirrup]

get good Handpix

[crisp bobcat]

Yeah crossbow is already enough for fighter to get closer in distance

[kind nova]

I am the most handsome who cares about good

Ans who care about cross bow? Give fighter +30 movespeed

[violet stirrup]

I dont believe soo you want to be great I want to be good we are not the same

[violet stirrup]

And they got francis axes I think they are in a good spot

[kind nova]

who gives a shit about good spot? everyone else gets to be broken so give me 30 move speed (I will negotiate down to fixing my longsword impact)

[blissful gull]

w patch but there always has to be one clown line way out of the blue like this: And someday, I really want us to explore space as well.

[crisp bobcat]

Yeah they are.

[violet stirrup]

W

[stiff zodiac]

They still didn’t fix random HR

[crisp bobcat]

Space and a fantasy extraction game just dont fit

[desert maple]

I'd like to point you to a guy called H.P. Lovecraft, great way to transition space and fantasy: Cosmic Horror

[crisp bobcat]

Is it youtube name? Ill see

[kind nova]

hold up guys! a magic crayon is talking! good insight incoming

[desert maple]

He's an author who popularised the cosmic horror genre with things like C'thulhu

[stiff zodiac]

Do something about random
HR, idc how long the rotation is

[drifting scaffold]

rotation isn’t a solution it’s the same problem

[crisp bobcat]

Oh thats something familiar, i think C'thulhu exists in SS14, not fully merged though.

[stiff zodiac]

Well ok then just delete PvE to make room for hr queues

[crisp bobcat]

i mean yeah sure...

[candid pollen]

choice + waiting for queue is the only solution. Idk why they wont embrace that

[violet stirrup]

I think SDF made the water map because he is a one piece fan I rather have space when I was a kid I used to play unreal Touarment and that game was amazing

[crisp bobcat]

You can still pretty much loot without engaging in fights since most people skip all the rooms

[desert maple]

Yeah his writings are referenced in thousands of works tbh, guy wrote his stories in the 1920's i think, revolutionary for the time

[stiff zodiac]

It’s not about that, I just wanna pick where I go. I tried to just soldier through this random hr thing but it’s just not fun so I’ve been away a while just checking for updates

[crisp bobcat]

You do know that im not gonna read any out of his books, right?

And i doubt im even gonna goggle to see who that is...

[desert maple]

Yeah but i expanded your mind just a little whether you like it or not 😄

[crisp bobcat]

Fair nuff...

[rancid bane]

[18] - All forms of Gambling Content Including Gambling Games are not to be streamed in this Discord

[crisp bobcat]

Oh wait so you CANT CHOOCE THE MAP YOURE GOING TO IN HR?

[astral escarp]

No, it’s up to chance

[crisp bobcat]

Thats fucking crazy

[kind nova]

just play norms, more fun

[crisp bobcat]

Thats what im doing

Not fun to meet people with thousands of hours every game though

Im bored of dying to these tryhards

[stiff zodiac]

Yeah that’s why all the players are gone lol

Well, that and circle

[sick parcel]

same people teaming over and over again in HR solos for 10 days or more now , IS NO ONE banning people in IRONMACE ? what the fk are you lot doing

[crisp bobcat]

Circle is lowkey a deadass mechanic, id rather take a portals close in this room in (time) mechanic

[valid topaz]

its ruins with the chance of another map lets be honest

[stiff zodiac]

Yeah there are many similar options that for some reason have not been attempted

[astral halo]

anyone knows when wipe +-? i would love to come back to the game but 2k players isnt quite inviting ...

[kind nova]

play later at night usually more players

for some reason less people are on at 9 am then at 5 pm

[astral halo]

i mean 4k doesnt do the magic for me either you know

[crisp bobcat]

Dont do it, im a new player and i want to mention this game is a torture.
Good thing i love gaming masochism

[sick parcel]

never come back game is shit

[kind nova]

lobbies have 15 people why does it matter if it says 4k on steam charts?

[stiff zodiac]

And the part I REALLY didn’t understand was

• we finally released our shiny new Maelstrom HR experience, the centerpiece of our work for the past two years
• players cannot select this map

[astral halo]

huh what happened to the game ?

[sick parcel]

people teaming freely in solos HR freely with no penalties and u cant select a map so its miserable

[kind nova]

game is fine, always some gremlin crying in a chat of a game he "doesnt wanna play"

[desert maple]

[kind nova]

i hate DARK AND DARKER but im gonna sit in the DARK AND DARKER discord all day and tell people not to play DARK AND DARKER

[crisp bobcat]

I dont like the fact that the only people i queue against are 1-10k hours dudes who never seen a sunlight

[stiff kite]

I accept you apology sdf i know i has been rough but you have always stuck by communication with the community and i wont let it be forgotten. I am sorry on behalf of the community and hope to see a better day where things can be fun and less repetitive.

[valid topaz]

oh a new boss with new artifacts and an egg thats worth so much because we wont give that map in hr at a rate any higher than a 1 in 50 chance with 4 maps

[stiff zodiac]

I don’t hate DaD, it’s my favorite game. I just burned out cuz of the random HR thing. I’ll be back once they fix it for sure

[kind nova]

I was referring to this gremlin

[wintry lichen]

I cant believe they nerfed shields man

[kind nova]

really? they are insane?

[stiff zodiac]

Buffing weapon blocks is very cool though, that’s a W decision

[vale crow]

Practice with low risk gear sets if you find yourself consistently outplayed

[kind nova]

every single class that could use a shield was using a shield why on earth wouldnt they nerf them

[wintry lichen]

I agree but why nerf shields man

Shields arent even that insane lol

[kind nova]

L take

[wintry lichen]

Why? lol

They are super inconsistent anyway

[kind nova]

Shields are broken, they got a move speed nerf as deserved

[stiff zodiac]

Heater was like the best option last time I logged in

[kind nova]

they arent. inconsistent unless you are

[crisp bobcat]

Thats the thing, i die when im in poor gear and when i actually buy myself a blue kit with stats i need people either dont fight me or die a stupid way to me.

[exotic gorge]

Shields were definitely doing too much

[wintry lichen]

Nah buckler and Lantern shield are not very consistent shields

[kind nova]

if barb and warlock are playing shields they needed nerf

[crisp bobcat]

And well, i lost 2/3 my blue kits for 2 days to people teaming in solo normals

[kind nova]

Buckler is a tiny shield by purpose and lantern is a gimmick

[stiff zodiac]

Buckler is extremely good tho

[vale crow]

Okay why are you complaining then, if you win all your geared fights?

[wintry lichen]

okay so why nerf them all lmfao?

[kind nova]

are you truly offended by a lantern shield nerf?

[crisp bobcat]

Because i win against people in poor gear.

[wintry lichen]

lmfaooo nah

[crisp bobcat]

And die to them too rarely.

[wintry lichen]

and they didnt nerf buckler

[vale crow]

Okay, build more movespeed if you can't catch geared people

[crisp bobcat]

I just dont meet them when im geared.

[stiff zodiac]

Did they buff lantern shield recently before this nerf? Cuz when I last played like 3 weeks ago it was extremely bad lol

[kind nova]

just go in naked over and over, you can kill geared people with nothing

[crisp bobcat]

My move speed is around 108%/110%

[vale crow]

Sounds like you're getting outplayed stealth wise then

[kind nova]

idk man, that shits been a gimmick since it was releases, Heater and round are the only touchable ones unless you are a pavise giga chad

[crisp bobcat]

I do make specifically agility builds with true magical damage on my mage warlock build, and no, rogues with hide that ive met didnt do much.

[kind nova]

true BUFF WARLOCK

[stiff zodiac]

Hard disagree cuz buckler is crazy good. Maybe not now with the slow though
Lantern was the strongest shield in the game a little more than a year ago, was meta until they nerfed it

[formal mason]

they just did :O

[valid topaz]

wait until you are on hr and meet a rogue in full kit with a db i get 2 shot with 65% pdr and 150 hp lol

[kind nova]

AGAIN

[vale crow]

Geared players don't just magically appear when you go in piss, if you can't find them, they outplayed you by hiding

[kind nova]

didnt play when lantern was good, and buckler is fine, its a small shield with low move speed nearf but Heater is and has been the king forevahhhh

[crisp bobcat]

Im in squire account

[crisp bobcat]

Im not paying 20 bucks for a torture, lol

[formal mason]

make bolt of darkness heal the caster if it hits

[kind nova]

Im unsure what you want then? do you want hour based lobbies?

[crisp bobcat]

No, i mean i dont meet them when im geared.

[kind nova]

and +10 true mag damage

[weak elm]

Just go play arc bro the game is dead the devs are incompetent

[kind nova]

and another loser in the DARK AND DARKER discord telling people NOT to play DARK AND DARKER becausae he doesnt like DARK AND DARKER

[crisp bobcat]

Well maybe YOU go play arc then?

[vale crow]

Yes, geared players won't magically vanish because you bring in gear, they hide or go down a level

[kind nova]

its like chronic unemployment is rampant in this server

[stiff zodiac]

Buckler also had the highest impact rating so applied the most hit recovery to an enemy when blocking a hit

[weak elm]

You’re literally talking in it rn😭😭✌️

[kind nova]

tiny stinky shield for small tiny stinky players

[formal mason]

if youre new and already complaining, just uninstall tbh. what are you doing with your free time 😅

[kind nova]

I also just took a poop ur point?

[stiff zodiac]

What did i do to you 😂

[kind nova]

nothing lmfao I play fighter no buckler for me

[crisp bobcat]

Alright, so where do i go to meet them and not get teamed on? (because when i go to graveyard its always a few people fighting here that swap to me instanly when they see im warlock with a mage build for some reason...)

[worthy coral]

nerf barb

[weak elm]

Can’t even argue with someone so cringe 😹

[kind nova]

just report teamers

[crisp bobcat]

You might be right.

[kind nova]

was never an argument, you are wasting ur time in a server for a game you hate. Congrats!

[reef bay]

this update is epic guys what do you think

[valid sigil]

it actually was a lot more pointless than i had anticipated

[stiff zodiac]

Imagine, back in the day we had no useless PvE mode, instead we had squire gear lobbies for new players to learn the game (solo-duo-trio, wherever)

[candid pollen]

back in the day we didnt have squire lobbies 😄

[reef bay]

ok weird boy

[kind nova]

think squire lobbies are fine, the PVE mode is kinda strange but w/e

[weak elm]

“An argument is one or more premises—sentences, statements, or propositions—directed towards arriving at a logical conclusion.” It was an argument bro stop tryna be different 😭😭😹

[valid sigil]

that patch isnt bringing the player count up any

[stiff zodiac]

Ok sure lol (I have also been around way too long) but I do think the squire lobbies were ALMOST perfect for new players onboarding. They just needed to remove boss drops and ore to keep out the farmers and they would have the perfect starter mode

[kind nova]

Congrats, more time wasted in a discord for a game you hate. Might I recommend employment?

[dense glade]

game is dead let it go guys

[weak elm]

Never once said I hated this game I have like 2k hours on it plus play test 3 and up

[crisp bobcat]

So just as this mode squore to riches rn

[vale crow]

It sounds like they both just want to avoid a 3rd party, just stay out of sight if its that much of a problem

[reef bay]

unfortunately they would need to absolutely overhaul content for players to come back

[kind nova]

Not reading your messages.

[weak elm]

But you are replying

[kind nova]

try employment

[crisp bobcat]

Sure

[dire sonnet]

no one gives a flying shit if ice cavern or gobo caves is empty just remove random dungeon u absolut dogs

[stiff zodiac]

Did they add solos and duos to that?

[weak elm]

3rd time the line has been used 😭

[kind nova]

employed yet?

[crisp bobcat]

No

[weak elm]

I’m putting down money you aren’t even employed yourself😹😹

[rancid bane]

Please be a bit more respectful in here please.

[kind nova]

Sorry Ill edit that mean word out

[stiff zodiac]

So not the same then lol

[crisp bobcat]

Yeah

[kind nova]

Shadow if you want fights with geared people, rush into Graveyard, then bridge, then run back and forth

[crisp bobcat]

Would be nice if pve got deleted, i want to play against actual humans instead of whatever these creatures behind the screen are.

[kind nova]

Hey sir that sandog guy said a mean thing to me can u yell at him to pwease

[drifting scaffold]

[kind nova]

big fan cquinn

[crisp bobcat]

Gimme a drink, bar-ten-der...

https://tenor.com/view/town-with-no-name-drink-town-with-no-name-give-me-a-drink-bartender-avgn-gif-18608728

[drifting scaffold]

[candid pollen]

cquinn doesnt hit as hard these days 😢

[kind nova]

nah cquinn still got good takes

[drifting scaffold]

o dayum we got 10s we good lil buds in here

[kind nova]

he agrees that fighter needs +30 move speeds

[stiff zodiac]

PvE is pretty bad for extraction games imo
It doesn’t increase player count of the game, just adds a separate game with its own player count

[kind nova]

is that the case for tarkov too?

[candid pollen]

yep

[rancid bane]

slides impossibly large beer towards you at mock 5

[kind nova]

never really looked at the numbers pre and post

[sour oyster]

this game is still ass play something better like Arc Raiders

[reef bay]

Not like DaD isn't completely different

[weak elm]

Cycle frontier game me warnings like this too this game is js gonna end up the same

[kind nova]

and ANOTHER EMPLOYED person, spending their time in the server telling people to play other games with their very VALUABLE time

[half ermine]

absolute nothing ass patch and more rambling from a delusional dev

[rancid bane]

👁️_👁️ ✊

[kind nova]

I WAS NICE DAVE

I said employed AND valuable

[stiff zodiac]

ARC is decent but the replayability is way lower since there’s no gear variety and it’s easy to get everything. There’s no endgame really

[sly hornet]

I've been sleeping on the huntress quests. Didn't realize you could get a gold chest

[kind nova]

I love dark and darker because of the beautiful community

[reef bay]

I miss play test dark and darker tbh

[ruby flame]

farmed f or hours, made a kit, first dungeon, first 2 minutes, 2 barbs from different doors and 1 red goblin controlled by a player, just 3v1's me

[reef bay]

gotta win those bro

[kind nova]

Want me to build u a kit lil guy

[dusky rapids]

Every dungeoneers worst nightmare

[tropic tide]

Honestly this game is just sad now and sucks.

It was known by many and even claimed outright by some YT Videos - DaD had a limited time to get it's act together before another game came out that did it better. They miserably failed to do so.

Looking at the patch changes and just thinking about how much they changed 5-spell Cleric and forced the entire solo class to play as a barbarian

Thinking about rogues over the past 2 years

Thinking about druid since the start, and now Sorc you have to increase spell times

Iron Mace just never knew what they were doing or had any good ideas since the start

Just no talent, no vision, your cooking taste bad - plain and simple

[kind nova]

Yapping try job PLEase

[tropic tide]

I'm at work, I went to college

[reef bay]

barb is like 2nd worst class now lol

[left oyster]

the only things we get these days are things no one fucking wanted jesus christ man

[kind nova]

That was rude, I repent on insulting your hairline

[valid topaz]

gear dependant for sure

[tropic tide]

It's really sad what happened to this game

[drifting scaffold]

honestly more sad ur sad abt it

[tropic tide]

I don't know what that means

[drifting scaffold]

just like how u think first game from rank and file nexon devs gonna go? expectations for this game high and for what?

[tropic tide]

No that's the problem, my expectations were 0 and I'm still really disappointed lol

[fading goblet]

Play a different game lmao gtfo of the discord

[tropic tide]

I have been for like 4 months, just came to see patch notes

[drifting scaffold]

clearly not

[tropic tide]

Haven't even looked at this discord in months

[drifting scaffold]

idk how you can say expectations 0 and say things like this right?

[tropic tide]

What do you not get?

[ivory spear]

Broooooo, take out the rotating map. Can't you see that nobody plays the game anymore? WTFFF

[hybrid sequoia]

why? warlock having more ways to heal himself than cleric isn't good enough?

[tropic tide]

This game is like my friend from highschool I was boys with - now he just does drugs, his wife left him LOOOOONG time ago, he fat af

Working at a gas station

[drifting scaffold]

very telling

[exotic gorge]

I've never seen a game with a player base that just bashes on it and keeps playing 😭

[tropic tide]

We used to be boys, now you're like a straight bum. Can't even hang out w you any more

Like don't even come around my house please, I'm sorry

[limber parcel]

what happened to no zone

[exotic gorge]

I take this back I have but like not to this extent

[ivory spear]

We love this game but sdf doesn't want us to play it too hard, it's frustrating

[turbid elbow]

he also smells bad and has no hope, but you still boys beer is beer

[noble bough]

Swear this games player base hates themselves

[drifting scaffold]

see he doesn’t think like that. very telling

your bro needed you

[tropic tide]

This is honestly real. I would still buy you a beer dog Q_Q

I don't want you around my house or my kids, but I would still buy you a beer dog, I love you hope you get better Q_Q

[drifting scaffold]

but u just said u don’t hope that

[exotic gorge]

I don't understand why they wouldn't do the time rotated maps people could essentially pick their map and there would be no dead lobbies?

I'm pretty sure they had it at some point

[tropic tide]

There was map rotation I think 3 times in the past, no idea about recently

[exotic gorge]

But I might possibly be wrong I don't see people advocating for it

[drifting scaffold]

bc not a good solution, still results in the same empty dead maps

[exotic gorge]

Wait ur right I'm dumb asf

That's literally the same problem as picking them 😭😭😭

[ivory spear]

It's incredible how they waste such a good IP.

[drifting scaffold]

that wipe with rotation almost made me stop playing the game closest i got

[tropic tide]

The lobbies are dead because the class design is just bad.

Some are goo but don't belong in the same game / power scale as others. Fighter is a really good class but back when I quit Druid was a whole other animal (no pun intended)

[ivory spear]

My friends don't even want to play the game anymore, they quit, it's so sad.

[drifting scaffold]

lol what

[tropic tide]

The last 3 times I logged in was just to claim twitch rewards. Now I don't even care about the twitch rewards, I didn't even do the last 2 twitch drops and it's literally clicking a new tab

[magic radish]

Imagine adding quality of life when your game has no life anymore

[cunning ore]

Lol, what.

[tropic tide]

cquinn I imagine you as Tim Robinson in a hotdog suit

[unreal garnet]

fr i would love to see a game where everyone starts as the same lvl 1 peasent and then builds their character towards wizard/fighter/rogue when you get to level 20 or 80 or whatever

[reef bay]

what ?

[ivory spear]

I don't understand how they can see the game with 3k players and completely ignore it to keep adding things.

[tropic tide]

Druid chased away players for too long

Sorc chased away players on top of druid but not for nearly as long

Warlock annoyed players for a year

Rogue is back and forth every year

Then they removed solos for a bit and gutted their playerbase with nothing really A+ quality to bring them back

[sacred halo]

What are the changes to the shields and why? Now the fighter is a block of wood that doesn't move

[cunning ore]

2nd worst of what? Diablo? Lol.

Its literally the king piece of buffball comp.

[reef bay]

PDR fighter has the role

[tropic tide]

Barb gets constant overbuffs every 4 months

[reef bay]

cleric would be even better than barb

[kind nova]

IM BACKKK

with a newly positive mentality!

[tropic tide]

Cleric in solos is just a made up word, they're really just a different barb

[cunning ore]

No it doesn't lol. There's no counter to meatball.

Fighter you can build Armor Pen.. Barb you literally don't have a single ability to deal with flat %.

[turbid elbow]

why is the black cockaboy still so sad; make the boy overflow from day to day. thanks

[cunning ore]

Barb is literally nobrain. Just spam mouse1 and win by statchecking everyone else just from stacking HP because noone else can match the same HP to damage ratio.

[sacred halo]

I think that after this update to shields, we're cooked. Only ranged classes can be played. See you at the next patch (maybe).

[kind nova]

Barb is super balanced and they should give fighter +30 move speed

[mossy crow]

hi have not played yet games currently downloading is cleric straight healer ?

[fathom ice]

It’s crazy how SDF is literally one of the worst devs and game company leadership in history and he will be known for that in history. Fck you SDF absolutely pathetic and you will go down in history as worse than a nobody fck you for ruining this game f*ck you for being so selfish and clueless

[tropic tide]

Well, goodbye general chat. It was fun.

I showed this chat to my wife like a year ago and she thought it was absolutely hilarious.
I remember hundreds of people spamming "She kept it" talking about Katie and a deathbloom, that was the first chat my wife saw here

Good times. Good luck Iron Mace!

[hybrid sequoia]

can be, cleric has multiple different builds, druid can be healer too

[drifting scaffold]

bro chatting like he won't "check in" in another few months

[turbid elbow]

cya later bud

[mossy crow]

can it be built like youre steryotype paladin

[drifting scaffold]

absolutely

[fathom ice]

SDF is pathetic and you’re all cringe for still being a part of the game /community. if you are reading this and support the game F*CK YOu you’re a MOR0N

[hybrid sequoia]

yes, tho with maces only

[noble bough]

You’ll be back stop lying

[wary crag]

Omg ,i only want water map out of hr rotation,ONLY

[hybrid sequoia]

monkey paw finger curls - you can now play only water map on hr

[loud sable]

Someone needs a snickers!

[final plume]

BROOO, its so easy deal with the random dungeon system, let the players go wherever they want and put a loot buff on a dungeon per day. so today the goblin is buffed, so everyone is gonna play goblin, if you dont want, even with the good loot, its ok. let the players do what they want to do. Path of Exile is the best exemple of this. you dont want to play X map ? LOCK IT. you dont want to play X mechanic ? LOCK IT.

[wary crag]

I love crypst,ice and goblin map,only hate rhe water map, pvp is sh*t

[gritty ermine]

Map selection pls

[kind nova]

Im back and I would love some forehead kisses

[noble bough]

Water map before a dwarf map 💔

[desert tree]

Sooooo bard is just gonna keep getting shafted on the side with mini nerfs every patch? Like they only touch bard now when people are complaining that something in his kit is strong. Fml.

[mossy crow]

are maces any good ?

[hybrid sequoia]

all weapons are with correct build, except healing staff, that's just for healing

[gritty ermine]

Penguin buff pls

[final obsidian]

penguin lives matter

[severe zephyr]

nah, delete druid

[old crescent]

i have 1.4k hours on dad, ever since i discovered arc raiders i am starting to think ill never come back....

[final obsidian]

w comms w mid raiders

[kind nova]

arc raiders is the same crappy extraction shooter that comes out every 8 months is played for a month then dropped

[final obsidian]

wait bro this one has 3rd person like fortnite its "different"

[old crescent]

youre crazy dude

[severe zephyr]

only class they bothered to make new skill for water map was druid, when some other classes don't even have half of their skills work underwater. sdf is giga biased for druid

[kind nova]

it has no end game, the loot is too easy to get

[finite briar]

how much is viola going for right now?

[final obsidian]

copy pasta shooter extraction

how many we got like 7 now? boring.....

[old crescent]

yeah but devs are actually doing things and adding content

[kind nova]

so did cycle, breakpoint, pubg, h1,

[noble bough]

Roadmap looking pretty promising

[kind nova]

Im assuming im missing others cause I didnt care enough about em all

[final obsidian]

the shooters are gonna be so oversaturated that it will implode

[stiff kite]

@candid pollen hold that "Sorcerer spell casting times and cooldowns have been increased."

[old crescent]

well you can dislike shooters but it is the best extraction game rn

[kind nova]

I love shooters, but its the same crap that gets dropped every 8 months gets popular then dies

[final obsidian]

mid raiders

[candid pollen]

thats the whole origin of discussion lol

[old crescent]

give me an example

[kind nova]

cycle

[cunning ore]

marathon

[pure anchor]

played arc for 60 hours maxed out all benchs got 46 bps maxed out expedition maxed out my level then just got bored lmfao

[kind nova]

^

no guys! THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT!

[noble bough]

RIP marathon dead before it even started

[hybrid sequoia]

please tell me you're not talking about arc here

[kind nova]

its not going to become rancid with cheaters and the same boring cycle and go away

[old crescent]

actually never heard of these games

[final obsidian]

lmao

[kind nova]

then u are 11 years old or never actively played shooters

[noble bough]

cycle frontier was actually shit compared to arc and marathon is bungies new extraction

[pure anchor]

theres no dopamine in the game killing anyone feels meh the cycle is just not that great

[final obsidian]

im dead enjoy the mid raiders though bro

[old crescent]

yeah option 2 unfortunately

i wish i was 11

[kind nova]

cycle was a huge extraction shooter at the time and died to the same problem as everything else, cheaters become rampant, gameplay ends up being stale

The only one that survives is tarkov becasue the players are just like the ones in this game, masochists

[old crescent]

tarkov has a diferent aura

[candid pollen]

shooting and movement in cycle was bad tbf

[kind nova]

content and loot cycle were better then arc tho

[old crescent]

but i mean, arc is so comfy to play, at the same time it can be kinda tryhard

[pure anchor]

I be looting a locked room in a high loot building and getting lure grenades and metal parts where's the dopamine of getting a cool item or killing someone that just has free loadouts

tarkov is way better imo

[old crescent]

if devs keep adding good content i can see future

[severe zephyr]

arc devs paid shroud gooood to shill their game so hard. dude is a fps-player at heart and suggest a third person shooter is goty lmao

[noble bough]

Arc is just an extraction shooter for people who don’t hate themselves (tarkov players)

[old crescent]

i think you guys are ragebombing arc

[hybrid sequoia]

where is promissed weapon/item mastery?
where is clan tavern?
where is some kind of talent tree for more specialization?
where are map or seasonal mutators?

[cunning ore]

marathon was ultradead before they even started because they decided to redo marathon in 2025

[unique cape]

so why we reacting with transgender flag

[kind nova]

how big was the playerbase drop on arc when tarkov wipe happenedcd

[candid pollen]

we got random HR instead and random balance changes

[pure anchor]

no honestly dude the cycle aint that good. looting is meh, killing people is meh, killing arcs for the same queen reactor, magnetic accelerator its just boring.

[gritty ermine]

Map selection pls

[trail nimbus]

The skele mage skin needs a rework… cant even see the skin unless you’re naked

[misty ridge]

The best third person shooter is Star Wars Battlefront II

[old crescent]

damn right

[misty ridge]

That's... every skin

[hybrid sequoia]

arc is extraction shooter for working dads
tarkov is extraction shooter for their unemployed fat kids

[gritty ermine]

The old one? Yooo that was the best one and it ain’t even close

[kind nova]

Great take that answered nothing I said?

[trail nimbus]

At least with skele champ you can tell 🤷‍♂️

[misty ridge]

All of the above, and the 2015 Battlefront as well

[hybrid sequoia]

I don't even know the question, nor I want to, I just want to talk with some handsome people

[old crescent]

game been out for like 3 weeks bro chill

[gritty ermine]

I played battlefront 2 on my xbox classic days ago and had a blast

[kind nova]

Im too handsome, stay away

[hybrid sequoia]

I'm talking about DaD you doofus

[kind nova]

my hair is currently slightly wet and tousled its outrageous how handsome I am atm

[old crescent]

oh oopsie

[misty ridge]

Battlefront 2015 had Lightsaber locks

Did Battlefront II 2005 have those as well?

[trail nimbus]

My skeleton mage skin is handsome but I cant see it with gear on 🙁

[gritty ermine]

Hey it was still ahead of its time 😄

[placid swallow]

This game just doesn’t hit the same after the first 2 weeks of a fresh wipe

[noble bough]

400k to 370k

[trail nimbus]

Squire to Riches is the most fun I’ve had in a while

[misty ridge]

Galactic Conquest is one of the best designed game modes oat

[kind nova]

W game is dead

[rustic fable]

What's the difference between Max Health and Max Health Bonus

[noble bough]

100%

[grim wave]

one is percent based one ot just base HP

[hybrid sequoia]

one is flat, other is %

[gritty ermine]

Yooo that one was the best frfr. Felt almost like playing chess cause you had to pick planets to conquer and could even win by destroying all their fleet

[placid swallow]

I queued normals with 6 friends and we all played rogue that was the most fun I’ve had in a while

[misty ridge]

Also decimal values exist. And we do rounding

[kind nova]

Seems like over the last 4 days the player base peak has dropped like 30k a day?

[rustic fable]

Which one is %

[cunning ore]

I wonder why. (sarcasm)

[pastel elm]

so what content did they add with this update?

[misty ridge]

I never played it, but I've heard the stories

[kind nova]

Good balance, changes

[gritty ermine]

You have to play it. It’s insanely well designed

[solid tide]

so we all moving to arc raiders right 🤔

[misty ridge]

Does BFII still have an active playerbase?

[pastel elm]

so they decreased the move speed on 5 items and called it a day?

[misty ridge]

Does it have skeleton knights

[placid swallow]

Probably because level playing field until you realize 2 weeks later the game outside of that initial rush doesn’t keep you attached to play more

[kind nova]

lowered* and nerfed sorc

[gritty ermine]

The old one? I don’t know. But it’s prolly more of a niche thing so I assume not many people

[solid tide]

no it's got sick ass robots

[pastel elm]

didnt they buff sorc?

[misty ridge]

Don't need a bunch o' noisy clankers tbh

[kind nova]

flat increased cooldown and cast time

[cunning ore]

They have to be done with this no-SSF bullshit and bring SSF back to Arena so people actually have a reason to go in the dungeon.

[placid swallow]

True though

[solid tide]

fair but atleast it ain't a piece of slop like this game 🤷‍♂️

[pastel elm]

yeah i guess that just depends how much the increase was, but they buffed 2 of the perks

[misty ridge]

Nah this game is peak

[placid swallow]

Tired of running against rmt kits of doom

[solid tide]

it's just not 😢

i want my money back 💀

[misty ridge]

See, people say that but I'm yet to see the explanation behind it

[misty ridge]

You've been here since April. Assuming you purchased the game around that time it may be a liittlee late

[solid tide]

no i've purchased before that i just never joined the server

[meager sky]

An explanation for not liking the game anymore?

[placid swallow]

[pastel elm]

i've only gotten 8k hours from this game, where is my refund

[misty ridge]

people don't need to explain that but whenever they say it's slop then I get confused because I have fun and know people who have fun

[livid rover]

im use to seeing like 500 people react with clown emotes whenever ironmace did a annoucement or hotfix... barely anyone reacted. yikes

[kind nova]

This game is alot of fun people just enjoy whining for attention

[solid tide]

it's dead i just get the same people, it's repetitive, the devs don't listen and i knew it was gonna die the day they released it for free on epic games

[ivory spear]

This game is a lot of fun but sdf don't want us to play the game so.. We can't do it

[solid tide]

that's my take

[placid swallow]

Game is good dev is bad

[ivory spear]

x2

[pastel elm]

too busy playing arc raiders to care lol

[tidal crane]

when's the wiki getting updated it's kind of abandoned

[warm fable]

[solid tide]

never the game peaks at 1000 players

[placid swallow]

That’s why I’m playing arc raiders lmao

[kind nova]

fine enough but the pvp quality is fun rn just bad matchmaking with random maps?

[meager sky]

Game had a good base but they continue to create problems for themselves instead of improving the base game, next season will probably be better but its always like this.

[solid tide]

let's hope

[misty ridge]

Don't know. There is no official wiki so none of them are gauranteed to be updated

[kind nova]

theres like 4500 rn on I think actuallyyy

[cunning ore]

My favorite Arc Raiders character is Indiana Jones.

[placid swallow]

Who’s idea was it to make it so you can’t choose your hr map

[ember snow]

...really....

[livid rover]

how many are actually playing and in the dungeon

[solid tide]

i rmbr getting on and there being like 1000 that's good it's back up to 4500 🤷‍♂️

[misty ridge]

They've been getting better with listening lately. sdf addressed proper complaints they've been receiving with map selection and the dark swarm in #sdfs-kitchen , and as for it being dead, it is mid wipe so many people are sorta just done already and waiting for end of wipe

[ivory spear]

Arc is a 10% of Dark and Darker, you only can loot weapons

[livid rover]

ARC is 10x's the game of dark and darker..

[placid swallow]

This was their last season apparently to lock in fr but they couldn’t unfortunately w water map though

[cunning ore]

Game shouldn't be dead mid wipe.. Not even end wipe.

[ivory spear]

It's neither better nor worse, but if you're looking for an extraction game, ARC takes away the missions and you don't loot anything other than weapons.

[solid tide]

i have noticed but still games shouldn't just die mid wipe that's a sign of a dead game, people just log on to play a few raids then never touch the game again

[kind nova]

maybe at 3 am

[solid tide]

I totally got nothing against this game or the devs i'm just sad to see it go down like this

[placid swallow]

Theres a progression system and even a skill tree as well

[meager sky]

The reason we have map selection is due to them adding another map to the pool then saying they cant support multiple maps at the same time due to the player count. Its a self inflicted problem.

[kind nova]

I was talking about arc raiders

[ivory spear]

Bro but here I can loot rings, armors, stats, there only weapons.. It's just it

[placid swallow]

Dark and darker said we would get a passive skill tree lets say 2 years ago it’s overrr

[misty ridge]

It is the cycle of how these things go. By this point wipe has been going on for about 2 months. That is ample time to have collected a few artifacts and max out your religion and High-Roller ranking

[placid swallow]

I don’t mind really

[misty ridge]

And then of course people will also return to enjoy some Arena on the weekends

[ember snow]

SDF should reduce the drop rate of rare items first. why?
Because the gold in-game is TOO EASY to make. It cause the game less hard.

[cunning ore]

It's ample time because there's literally nothing to play

How do you expect people to play the game when I can just login, buy a kit with all the trash I get from the dungeon, go to the dungeon, die and logout. What is there to be played, you don't even need to farm the kits anymore. Spend 2 minutes in the market, do a quick game, realize the balance is bonkers and logout. Or even better yet, just go naked into PVE or HR for no risk/aversity and logout.

There's literally nothing to do.

[placid swallow]

Even some of the arena modules need reworking some favor more range and others cqc

[thin pollen]

might as well delete the sorcerer class instead of these nerfs

[misty ridge]

Arena kits are a large part of the endgame for many people

[cunning ore]

What "end game", clicking on "Market" > "Purchase"?

[misty ridge]

Mhm. It's a lot of farming to get the gold for it

[simple aspen]

you have to go into the dungeon to afford arena gear tho

[ember snow]

Some people still think Sorcerer is OP...

come on, for real...?

[placid swallow]

When arena comes around I’ll play and when wipe happens I’ll play for 2 weeks hit demigod and rinse repeat

[granite lark]

game has been halted to prevent adverse network conditions? anyone else get this

[cunning ore]

Is it? You can literally log to normals, come out in 3-4 minutes with 1K worth of trash purple treasure and buy a kit for 10k and rank top 100.

What's the end game here, lol.

You don't even need to spend time to get the gear anymore.

[simple aspen]

extract with 1k and buy a 10k kit, whaaaat? a 10k kit is total trash for arena btw

[meager sky]

There isnt even rewards for arena

[placid swallow]

The no reward for arena part makes absolutely no sense at all

[cunning ore]

Before you had to legit go to do dungeon, hit piles, play for map, to get gear for Arena.

Now you can just buy any shit with mediocre rolls, gem the rest and be done with it.

[shell robin]

i like this concept

[simple aspen]

it would be more cool if arena was minted I agree w that

[placid swallow]

It’s how it should be

[thin pollen]

they must have absolutely 0 clue about the game

[winged citrus]

homie doesn't know end game gear costs 50-100k

[spiral root]

THINGS THAT ARE GOOD FOR THE GAME/fix the game

1)Goblin merchant recovery

2)Slow loot when u don't get kill

3)reds need to be interacted to open

4)please stop adding queues and take some away

5)RANDOM HR MAPS GOTTA GO

5k players on the game and were worried about BALANCING?!?

[ivory spear]

x2

[simple aspen]

reaching top 100 with a 10k kit would definitely be a feat

[placid swallow]

+all rings and necklace 100k almost

[cunning ore]

What end game lol. You can buy literal any legendary with mediocre rolls for 300g and just spend 1k to gem the rest. Lol.

It isn't a -3all that's going to stop you to get to top 100. It's literally joke to get to 2.6k

[cunning ore]

[ember snow]

'Spend time for gear' is what makes this game so fun... now they make it as easy as going shopping in IKEA

[river gorge]

real

[cunning ore]

Legit.

[boreal spoke]

bring back the timed cycle for maps, i’d rather wait 6 minutes for ruins or goblin caves to come back around rather than spend 10-15 mins in a water map game because they don’t want underpopulated lobbies

[scenic dawn]

you really only care about attribute rolls on gear now its sad, and it has to be like a plus 2 or 3

[pastel elm]

its funny because none of these changes would even be new content

[candid pollen]

no, sir. Thats reasonable. We dont do that here

[misty ridge]

Agree with pretty much all except for Goblin Recovery

[pastel elm]

i lowkey dont even thing its the 45 ques anymore, people just are not playing anymore lol

[cunning ore]

I rather wait to play the map I want than having to gamble my gear in a map I don't want.

[boreal spoke]

exactly, i’m so sick of water map because in hr it’s just fights around the extract boats

[gritty ermine]

I assume he talked about artifacts that he never ran

[honest garnet]

What if they lifted the islands like 100m raised the water level and had the sting ray kite you around the map while you fight it?

[candid pollen]

i think the Whale boss was supposed to do that but its not implemented yet

[honest garnet]

Ohhh makes sense

[cedar lagoon]

it literally just allows for more loot to flow throughout the game and lets people play more geared

[gritty ermine]

We need a second layer that you acces in the mid of watermap. Down there is an abyssal void with leviathan alike bosses and subbosses plus plants, sea life and monsters that emit light. So you barely spot them, but can never really tell what’s lurking for you in the darkness. Would also put the new water lantern into good use. It would be the dark and darker experience. As scary as it can get

[misty ridge]

Mmm it makes death less punishing than it should be

[cedar lagoon]

people can still loot you

whats punishing is the game having 2k players and lobbies being dead, letting people enjoy more gear is a win

[misty ridge]

yep

[honest garnet]

Honestly I used to think recovery was baby stuff but I think it’s having the opposite effect where now people have too much gear fear and having the recovery would make them feel better about bringing it

[signal mason]

there are other name colors, inside the game apart from red and blue?

[cedar lagoon]

yeah

[honest garnet]

Ohhh ya

[misty ridge]

There are dark blue and dark red but that's it

[signal mason]

have others?

[misty ridge]

Nope

[signal mason]

thks bro

[misty ridge]

Np

[modest echo]

THINGS THAT ARE GOOD FOR THE GAME/fix the game

1)Goblin merchant recovery

2)Slow loot when u don't get kill

3)reds need to be interacted to open

4)please stop adding queues and take some away

5)RANDOM HR MAPS GOTTA GO

5k players on the game and were worried about BALANCING?!?

[cunning ore]

Got to appreciate SDF's logic though.

❌ Casting fireballs in the water.
✅ Swimming and floating while wearing 100lbs full plate armor.

[wary onyx]

what is the thing people call DB in trading post?

[timber moon]

deathbloom

[misty ridge]

Deathbloom, the artifact variant of the Stiletto Dagger, commonly used as a currency due to its rarity and small form factor

[wary onyx]

ah ty

[solid tide]

alright so we on dark and darker right bois

[slate crest]

Wizard nerfed again lets gooooo

[sharp dawn]

they hate wizard

[candid pollen]

barely a nerf compared to sorc

[drifting scaffold]

yea what up

[inner scaffold]

Will what were you gonna say

[eager sand]

Fixing to complain about sorc

Every time i cast frost lightning now i get depressed

Every time i empty my wheel and have to wait 2 more seconds i get sad

[inner scaffold]

@forest dragon can help you with that

@forest dragon you there

[forest dragon]

@hexed adder maybe he knows

[inner scaffold]

ayo mods ban this guy

[eager sand]

So they want it to be played by standing still with apex is what im understanding, which isnt a very interesting mechanic

[forest dragon]

@drifting scaffold might know

[modest echo]

dont play sorc. trust me

[white slate]

Dungeons seem super dead rn

[pastel elm]

i think the proper way to play sorc is to just not play sorc lol

[livid rover]

This game is so good.. I swear

[eager sand]

Back to ranger i guess?

[livid rover]

I wasnt just in a HR water map, kill a pirate... game shuts down, I log back on im dead and now spectating. Amazing game

[final ember]

anyone know if survival or recurve bow is better on ranger? im trying to learn it and i suck with longbow

[gritty ermine]

Map selection pls

[inner scaffold]

no clue. maybe @forest dragon knows

[deep loom]

game dead anyhow, 24/7 arena!

[inner scaffold]

just shut the game down atp. arc raiders is better

[forest dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-eyeofrah-eye-of-rah-gif-9337038677048830451

[drifting scaffold]

𓀀 𓀁 𓀂 𓀃 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆 𓀇 𓀈 𓀉 𓀊 𓀋 𓀌 𓀍 𓀎 𓀏 𓀐 𓀑 𓀒 𓀓 𓀔 𓀕 𓀖 𓀗 𓀘 𓀙 𓀚 𓀛 𓀜 𓀝 𓀞 𓀟 𓀠 𓀡 𓀢 𓀣 𓀤 𓀥 𓀦 𓀧 𓀨 𓀩 𓀪 𓀫 𓀬 𓀭 𓀮 𓀯 𓀰 𓀱 𓀲 𓀳 𓀴 𓀵 𓀶 𓀷 𓀸 𓀹 𓀺 𓀻 𓀼 𓀽 𓀾 𓀿 𓁀 𓁁 𓁂 𓁃 𓁄 𓁅 𓁆 𓁇 𓁈 𓁉 𓁊 𓁋 𓁌 𓁍 𓁎 𓁏 𓁐 𓁑 𓀄 𓀅 𓀆

[forest dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/et-gif-20986410

[inner scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/namufilms-is-somebody-gonna-match-my-freak-super-freaky-grandma-gif-10786489898617196434

[pastel elm]

we got slow mode enabled and there is 2 chatters, we deadass?

[inner scaffold]

dead server deadass

[distant epoch]

Dark and Darker beat EFT Out on the nomination for worst extraction game

[forest dragon]

@proud copper

[inner scaffold]

mods ban this man now

[distant epoch]

i still remember the glory tests pre-steam removal with over 50k and the first tests after they won the court case off steam

before druid before warlock when the game had maximum hope

[candid pollen]

playtests had like over 100k concurrent

[distant epoch]

[candid pollen]

if they left this game in p3 state it would probably have more playerbase than this

[drifting scaffold]

fun fact, this never happened. you can check steamdb yourself

[inner scaffold]

he calling you out bruh

[forest dragon]

@drifting scaffold

[gaunt ingot]

Hey which helmets can lizards wear now?

[candid pollen]

the old steam charts were deleted

[inner scaffold]

who lying

[forest dragon]

[candid pollen]

because the game was deleted from steam

[drifting scaffold]

oh no i was lying

https://steamdb.info/app/2258570/charts/ playtest ...3 ? and https://steamdb.info/app/2078890/charts/ playtest ... 2?

[forest dragon]

[inner scaffold]

sheesh man got receipts. @candid pollen what you gonna say

[candid pollen]

ban this guy

[inner scaffold]

mad cause wrong

[forest dragon]

@hexed adder @proud copper @desert vector

[wind juniper]

consider that’s an all time on just steam, his real number is probably close enough that it’s not a dismissable point lol the game is dead

[inner scaffold]

a new warrior has joined the fight

[inner scaffold]

report this guy

[forest dragon]

I guess @candid pollen has been caught lying and trolling in chat

[brittle oasis]

@proud copper swimming... people hate the map --> player numbers prove it. and now youre talking about space... youre just not getting any better its hopeless

[graceful horizon]

is this sdf's vison yet?

[valid topaz]

most people i know like the new map its good if you know how to play not good if u like to run away though

[brittle oasis]

@proud copper tarkov 280k viewers on twitch... dnd 900 lol

[inner scaffold]

cmt keeps pinging sdf someone ban him

[brittle oasis]

most people who play(ed) the game dont

[spiral coral]

Just to be sure, we are rewarding losers with fausti and we think thats good game design ? @proud copper just quit PLS YOU

[winged citrus]

90% of people who talk in tavern chat dont play the game anymore.

[drifting scaffold]

it's fantastic once you get the hang of it

[forest dragon]

@proud copper @austere vine @lusty yacht @solar sierra @oblique citrus @broken grail

[modest echo]

fantastic he says

[exotic gorge]

I feel like this isn't true

[inner scaffold]

3 terrys is insane

[drifting scaffold]

yes. better than ice map and might even be better than goblin caves 😮

[solar sierra]

W terry

[inner scaffold]

W terry

[forest dragon]

W terry

[drifting scaffold]

where's that progression system terry !!!

[exotic gorge]

All they do is complain about the game makes me think they are playing it 😭 I do agree with some of it but a lot of it is coping and just band wagoning hate not saying they didn't partially kill their game with shit decisions

[inner scaffold]

i dont play the game and i complain about it

[forest dragon]

took this man 3 years to type this btw

[inner scaffold]

a lot of it was finding the emoji

[exotic gorge]

What?

[forest dragon]

you can tell he uses it a lot

[inner scaffold]

got @exotic gorge in a genjutsu

[forest dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141120

[inner scaffold]

he still typing

[wind juniper]

add dondozo to the game

[forest dragon]

@candid pollen

[inner scaffold]

@candid pollen been real quiet

[drifting scaffold]

the kinds of chatters that only come around when they get pinged in #📢announcements 😅

[modest echo]

i feel like thats normal behavior lol

[gaunt ingot]

Hey did the new hat update for reptiles just make Gators the most versatile casters in the game?

[forest dragon]

yes

[inner scaffold]

no

[forest dragon]

[inner scaffold]

[gaunt ingot]

Gators can now, at the literal drop of a hat - gain 4 strength can they not?

[brittle oasis]

@proud copper "The second reason is that we wanted to explore the limits of what we can express in this game, and in doing so, give the team a chance to break through those limits and grow." well you definitely found your limits

[inner scaffold]

we saw you @candid pollen

[forest dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-pubg-loading-sniper-reload-gif-15505006

[harsh marten]

we really got another mid map before sub classes

[heady mural]

Can you leave my fkn sorc alone... every single patch note you're just butchering the class more and more...

[night island]

mid map? its even worse than mid

[heady mural]

I'm honestly reaching my limits here with these stupid changes

[inner scaffold]

@hexed adder i think its time for the CM to come in here and cool the chat down

[forest dragon]

👁️ 👁️

[inner scaffold]

manage the community so to speak

[daring rampart]

fugly ah game

[forest dragon]

@candid pollen

[candid pollen]

@inner scaffold you wont ping all wardens 10 times in a row

[daring rampart]

like which dev decided that you cant choose highroller map like which creature decided it was best for the game

[harsh marten]

I’m coping

[inner scaffold]

i can do it 9 times

[forest dragon]

@candid pollen

[pastel elm]

if you wear a hat you lose the bonuses from the skin

[rose flume]

AND WE STILL HAVENT TOUCHED RANGER OR EVEN PURGE SHOT LIKE WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING SDF. If you let us select our HR maps PLAYERS WILL RETURN TO THE GAME TO FILL THE LOBBIES. HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM ICE MAP THAT NEW MAPS ARENT GOOD FOR PLAYER RETENTION???

[drifting scaffold]

new loading screen !!! troll dragging a poor fighter to his den 🙁

[inner scaffold]

meancow relax it isn't that deep

[gaunt ingot]

Right, so at the drop of your hat, you suddenly gain 4 strength

[rose flume]

No you relax

[inner scaffold]

you geeking dog

[pastel elm]

?

[rose flume]

No you geeking cat

[forest dragon]

and ...

[inner scaffold]

[pastel elm]

i guess, but why is that useful. you also lose pdr and headshot reduction plus 4 other stats on the item

[rose flume]

And what lmao

[inner scaffold]

he called you out @forest dragon

[rose flume]

Ooooooo oh no

Wat ever will I do

[candid pollen]

this is what i call ALIVE INTERNET THEORY @inner scaffold

[forest dragon]

@rose flume

[solid tide]

it was a joke ik

[inner scaffold]

[rose flume]

Yall weird

[inner scaffold]

[solid tide]

[forest dragon]

🤓

[rose flume]

[forest dragon]

@candid pollen @rose flume @hexed adder @solar sierra

[languid leaf]

How’s arc. Great thanks for asking

[shrewd merlin]

So is SDF going to give us some bullet points of things they're prioritizing, or just "we're fixing water map" and "we're moving numbers around" and "circle, no cirlcle, circle again..."

[inner scaffold]

man talking to himself

[forest dragon]

no

[drifting scaffold]

i'm just sitting here in goblin caves waiting for a static to open, a guy just runs past me clueless and fights mobs ...

[drifting scaffold]

they already did that in the posts a couple weeks ago. next wipe they're adding more class abilities

[inner scaffold]

@rose flume been real quiet

[candid pollen]

ragebaiting on MC is peak

[forest dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-emoji-creepy-animated-gif-4778793868124877165

[inner scaffold]

is it working

[drifting scaffold]

[rose flume]

Who ARE you people and HOW do you know me

Talking bout MC

[inner scaffold]

what did @daring rampart do

[daring rampart]

probably the XD

bots get mad about long XDDDD

[rose flume]

AND WE STILL HAVENT TOUCHED RANGER OR EVEN PURGE SHOT LIKE WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING SDF. If you let us select our HR maps PLAYERS WILL RETURN TO THE GAME TO FILL THE LOBBIES. HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM ICE MAP THAT NEW MAPS ARENT GOOD FOR PLAYER RETENTION???

[forest dragon]

@candid pollen

[inner scaffold]

why @rose flume tweaking again

[rose flume]

It’s not tweaking if it is copied 😭

[daring rampart]

nahhh bro there is no way they gonna let you select the map you wanna play and enjoy the game you think these guys wanna let you have FUN XDDDDD

[inner scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/mariojudah-gif-22652778

[rose flume]

The people want answers

[placid swallow]

Nobody wants to wait 4 mins for hr queue time to load into water map just saying

[daring rampart]

bro who the f wanna play water map

[rose flume]

Fym you want Space to be a new map mf this a dungeons and dragons based game like

[inner scaffold]

who want something from chipotle im bouta go

[daring rampart]

buggy ahh map cant even stand on boxes

[rose flume]

Go get some chipotle bro trolling dnd disc is not the way

[inner scaffold]

@rose flume angry as a mug

[rose flume]

I just know you giga omega bored bro

[inner scaffold]

you speak like a zoomer

[rose flume]

Im old lil buddy

[placid swallow]

Bowl with steak, white rice, black beans, fajita veggies, mild salsa, corn salsa, cheese, sour cream, lettuce, and guac on the side.

[forest dragon]

dont poke the dragon ... you might get burned

[inner scaffold]

shi i think i just did

[shrewd merlin]

Honestly DaD needs two completely separate teams... One for PvE/RPG, and one for PvP. There's too many cooks in the kitchen for both, or too little cooks, or just a bad cook, idk.

[kind nova]

Dont worry guys super Handsome guy is back

[forest dragon]

@rose flume

[placid swallow]

Is that aura?

[alpine moth]

@proud copper you actually have no clue what you’re doing. Quit

[proud blaze]

she zirkzis on my my stinky stick until i kuma

[rose flume]

Stop @ing me chud THATS MY PURSE I DONT KNOW YOU

[inner scaffold]

chud, man is definitely a zoomer

[rose flume]

Naw I had to ask the zoomer friends what it meant

[forest dragon]

40+ @rose flume

[rose flume]

I just turned 30 chuddington

[inner scaffold]

this man a certified geeker

[winged citrus]

hes the CEO homie

[rose flume]

Tf is a geeker is that new age slang? Is that what’s hip?

[proud blaze]

i abandoned my infant son in the dumpster of a long john silver's

[broken pagoda]

I once ate a bowl of nails for breakfast...without any milk

[forest dragon]

youre being ageist 😭

[gritty ermine]

@proud copper either add back map selection or remove the entrance fee

[inner scaffold]

high key reportable

[gritty ermine]

I am not okay spending 100 gold per run on maps I dont want to play

[rose flume]

No I am genuinely curious so I can be cool too

[gritty ermine]

I am already down 4 chests tryna fish for watermaps, this is fucked up on so many levels

[inner scaffold]

maybe @hexed adder can help you

[rose flume]

AND WE STILL HAVENT TOUCHED RANGER OR EVEN PURGE SHOT LIKE WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING SDF. If you let us select our HR maps PLAYERS WILL RETURN TO THE GAME TO FILL THE LOBBIES. HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM ICE MAP THAT NEW MAPS ARENT GOOD FOR PLAYER RETENTION???

[forest dragon]

@proud copper @candid pollen @solar sierra

[inner scaffold]

@candid pollen wildcard

[candid pollen]

damn it thought u found a new friendd instead

[forest dragon]

💀

[obtuse mortar]

Is faustian bargain disabled? It was greyed out for me on normals despite saying I had 2 left.

[forest dragon]

@somber oar

[somber oar]

ye

[winged citrus]

rangers balanced tho?! 2 shots with a longbow kills a 140 hp target.

[inner scaffold]

@somber oar are you gonna say something

been typing for 10 minutes

[somber oar]

message got blocked 7times D.

[inner scaffold]

dog what are you typing to get blocked 7 times

[forest dragon]

ayo

[somber oar]

you will see.

[inner scaffold]

i need an adult

[forest dragon]

why you put the big D at the end

[somber oar]

meant to be D:

[forest dragon]

ominous

[inner scaffold]

@rose flume we not done with you

[rose flume]

Woah bro yo must be giga ultra omega bored

[inner scaffold]

nah we bantering

[rose flume]

Nothing to banter brudder we must make SDF notice the facts- AND WE STILL HAVENT TOUCHED RANGER OR EVEN PURGE SHOT LIKE WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING SDF. If you let us select our HR maps PLAYERS WILL RETURN TO THE GAME TO FILL THE LOBBIES. HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM ICE MAP THAT NEW MAPS ARENT GOOD FOR PLAYER RETENTION???

[forest dragon]

@candid pollen @solar sierra @somber oar @proud copper

[somber oar]

I give up

who is curious about what my Angry and bored ass was typing hit me up in dms xD

[forest dragon]

send it to me D

[inner scaffold]

me too D

send it to @rose flume and @candid pollen too D

[forest dragon]

@somber oar

[rose flume]

No leave me alone!!! AND WE STILL HAVENT TOUCHED RANGER OR EVEN PURGE SHOT LIKE WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING SDF. If you let us select our HR maps PLAYERS WILL RETURN TO THE GAME TO FILL THE LOBBIES. HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM ICE MAP THAT NEW MAPS ARENT GOOD FOR PLAYER RETENTION???

[somber oar]

sent it to both of you guys

[minor ledge]

so does hr bladehand drop artifacts

[forest dragon]

that was not worth it @somber oar . @hexed adder get this man

[somber oar]

that was in fact worth it

[forest dragon]

D

[inner scaffold]

D

[hybrid sequoia]

cancer circle much worse than random map, just give wiz more ice or lightning spells so he is viable on water map too

[inner scaffold]

let @rose flume know

[proud blaze]

i am forbidden from the goblin caves for repeated unspeakable crimes committed against vulnerable goblin mages

[somber oar]

D

[drifting scaffold]

almost got my huntress chest

[forest dragon]

@glacial oracle

[ionic fox]

NO MORE NEW MAPS NO MORE MEW MAPS WE WANT FREE WILL IN CHOOSING OUR MAPS

[inner scaffold]

@glacial oracle

[somber oar]

i dont agree with the first part agree with the second part

[glacial oracle]

was just ab to say the ladders in this game are ahh

[rose flume]

AND WE STILL HAVENT TOUCHED RANGER OR EVEN PURGE SHOT LIKE WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING SDF. If you let us select our HR maps PLAYERS WILL RETURN TO THE GAME TO FILL THE LOBBIES. HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM ICE MAP THAT NEW MAPS ARENT GOOD FOR PLAYER RETENTION???

[somber oar]

sexy balls

[forest dragon]

@candid pollen @rose flume

[ionic fox]

Ok the most I’ll allow is new pve maps

[inner scaffold]

ill humor you. realistically what's wrong with purge shot

[somber oar]

even in hr but dont make players play it when they dont like it

[inner scaffold]

cause now you just a hater

[forest dragon]

@drifting scaffold knows

[drifting scaffold]

idk prob just a bard got owned by purge

[forest dragon]

I told you

[drifting scaffold]

hey how'd he do that

[inner scaffold]

@drifting scaffold did know

@rose flume you saw that

[forest dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-2974252281292720866

[glacial oracle]

"You can not do anything other than move while using the ladder" makes me wanna break shi fr

[uneven swan]

Has anybody played dark and darker on the steam deck? I'm a trucker and am interested to know if it's a viable option

[rose flume]

I play every class for 1, two every class has certain classes it counters. Rangers are good in every situation, counter almost every class without purge shot and with purge shot completely removes Bard, lifebloom Druid, melee sorc, and 10 spell cleric from truly being able to utilize their kits. The average Ranger sucks but at the top end Ranger is the most oppressive class in the game.

[inner scaffold]

any day now @rose flume we all waiting

[forest dragon]

yap fest

[inner scaffold]

[rose flume]

Yap on my huevos

[inner scaffold]

im not reading all that

[rose flume]

Ur rage baiting is awful bro u need work

[forest dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/turtle-cray-cray-animal-eyes-smile-gif-14020928

[inner scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/daredevil-daredevil-dog-tough-dog-red-mask-dog-gif-23418245

@rose flume did you see the gifs we put in

[rose flume]

No

[inner scaffold]

D

[forest dragon]

@somber oar

[rose flume]

@forest dragon @inner scaffold @somber oar @forest dragon @inner scaffold @somber oar @forest dragon @inner scaffold @somber oar @forest dragon @inner scaffold @somber oar

[inner scaffold]

thought he accomplished something

[rose flume]

Damnit did I not

[forest dragon]

im scared

[inner scaffold]

guess you did

[glossy minnow]

anybody else rubberbanding like crazy since patch?

[valid topaz]

nope

[bold lichen]

Anyone wanna explain how no chnage to rangers doing 120 damage from the other side of the world, on a player with 35%PDR on lol

[forest dragon]

@rose flume

[inner scaffold]

hit up @rose flume he's been tweaking about rangers this whole time

[drifting scaffold]

bro dodge it it's a longbow at 50m

[rose flume]

Be careful complaining about classes there are three chuds trolling

[visual swallow]

they'll never nerf rangers lol

[inner scaffold]

you are the third chud

[rose flume]

AND WE STILL HAVENT TOUCHED RANGER OR EVEN PURGE SHOT LIKE WHAT ARE WE EVEN DOING SDF. If you let us select our HR maps PLAYERS WILL RETURN TO THE GAME TO FILL THE LOBBIES. HAVE WE NOT LEARNED FROM ICE MAP THAT NEW MAPS ARENT GOOD FOR PLAYER RETENTION???

[forest dragon]

🤓 ☝️

[somber oar]

please make a paragraph

[inner scaffold]

[drifting scaffold]

the different noise cue for sour spots is such a good change

[bold lichen]

Yes, I'll dodge a projectile moving that fast, need my character to turn into Neo to avoid almost being 1 hit .... I see no issue here. Case closed !

[primal hollow]

skill issue

[drifting scaffold]

lmao what kind of kit do you have on you're getting owned this bad

[bold lichen]

My kits insane and I finish 95% of my arena matches well lll above top DPS, don't get owned .... just sick of how much damage they can do out of no where from such distance .....

[drifting scaffold]

it's not really out of no where though right? they're taking an angle you're not accounting for and not even bothing to cover your head

[bold lichen]

How can there be no damage loss from such a range .... I even feel bad for the fighters coz the fkin armour pen is also insane lol ... I think its mainly LongBow that's the issue tbh ...

[primal hollow]

abuse it then

[bold lichen]

Broodah.... no matter how well you play, that damage is not ... from as far away you like on the map .....

[primal hollow]

i heard walls stop arrows

[bold lichen]

Good one mate...

And in arena we have a load of maps with massive open spaces we have no option but to be open to get to them.

You can disagree, but you'd have to basically be a bit dim to think doing that much damage from such distance is ok .... its like rangers shooting out a fucking barbarian sledge hammer to the head... from a mile away lol

[clever cloud]

We gave our halberd fighter a pavise and its amazing what a moving shield wall does

Speaking as a wizard who dies from like 2 arrows

[bold lichen]

Lol, fair, thats smart for fighter tbh

[bold lichen]

Same as Warlock my broodah lol.... ranger in almost every team in every arena match 🤣

[drifting scaffold]

esp since you don't lose any gear, bring in whatever to swap to

[clever cloud]

I also started farming stuff to make my own health pots and protection pots. Higher quality meds really help recover from that 50% hp arrow hit

[brazen mortar]

🤫

[raw basin]

yo hopped off for a half a year, is the game back yet

[clever cloud]

you right my b

[exotic gorge]

Came back for a bit then it's slowly losing players id just wait for next wipe

Definitely better then it was not too long ago

[brazen mortar]

I always wonder what people mean when they ask if the game is Back or talking about Saving the game

So subjective

[exotic gorge]

Well the game needs more players

[sharp dawn]

whats the point of using hats on lycan and lizards if the armor stat for lizard and vigor for lycan doesnt apply with a helm on id understand if it got rid of the headshot damage reduction but the other stats is the entire reason people use thoes skins

[autumn gust]

Hello guys, would anyone help me killing the Warlord ? Im playing in EU, thanks!

[brazen mortar]

It’s all just taste and preference ultimately

[exotic gorge]

And it's not like it's "too far gone" just needs more updates that people like

[wind juniper]

it is definitely too far gone

[drifting scaffold]

for fun and goofs

[exotic gorge]

Well when something changes and a lot don't like it they leave and it's happened a lot so they need to make people like it again

[exotic gorge]

Beginning of the wipe it had 15k players

[wind juniper]

maybe not to recoup like a 10k playerbase again but this game has basically 0% to pull back old people who know the kinda bullshit waiting for em

[livid rover]

you asked for help but dont reply when offered lol

[wind juniper]

what is 15k players brother? that’s a drop in the ocean

[sharp dawn]

give me the ability to put on all helms at that point cause its not worth it imo

[exotic gorge]

Maybe the fact it hasn't had that in awhile

[wind juniper]

sure, for a dead game’s standards that’s okay, but it’s still not good lol

[autumn gust]

sorry i didnt see any answer

[livid rover]

new HR icy wyvern is bullshit. His slam and air tackles slam the ground knocking you back far AF...

[sharp dawn]

lizards cant even use the damn leather cap

[brazen mortar]

I just don’t think a game can be dead if I can load it up and play it

[exotic gorge]

It's a push in the right direction the game is extremely niche it can definitely bring back a player base if the servers are online and you can get full lobbies nothing really changes for players

[wind juniper]

it cannot, sorry to say

not while the current devs remain in charge, nobody will come back in even close to those kinda waves

they’ve already ruined the taste in most everyone’s mouth, it takes 1000% more effort now to regain players