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Reset router or use vpn
Good dark and darker was essentially before the players knew ab the devs (i think, i dont play this dog ass anymore)
its not my internet lol
Ive come to just say still no monk = cringe = arc 🔛 🔝
are people here meant to decipher this bs? what are u trying to say
i dont think its that hard to decipher lmao, dont self report
it was plain english
"no monk = cringe = arc 🔛🔝" how do any of these equal the other
No monk is cringe and since this game is cringe arc raiders is still on top. There ya go!
fuck monk this game is terrible now FUCK SDF
monk would have fixed it 🙂↕️
Can't remember the last time this game was fun. Player numbers also reflect this.
learning bosses solo was the most fun, i was mid way learning banshee then realized wth is the point this game is dying and sdf made terrible decisions
the only way to enjoy solos is to get wall hacks? WHY ARE THERE SO MANY CHEATERS
.Adding a new class doesn't fix the game...it just adds more shit for them to do OTHER than fix the game.
yes but what you FAIL to consider is monk is my favorite
I considered it. Rejected it. And my statement stands as fact. lol
may i submit an appeal?
Indeed you may, good sir.
Aight im leavingit up to general chat. Should I come back to the game now? or wait until next wipe.
we are over half way through, come back next wipe.
Game is fine only issue is malstrom, everyones just complaining
what in the unholy hell is malstrom
water map
any news yet?
sometime in december 

just an apogea joke this game is doomed

map rotations will fix this dont worry
also warden applications are open
by having more wardens we increase our chances of having more players
or at least better track of our current dedicated playerbase
maybe
™
I'm seeing a lot of "db"s in trade room. What is a DB?
Deathbloom
Dagger artifact. 1x2
Gold consolidate
better track of 2k is something that you can't help with, that would require god's help
You are on some type of map rotation right now, it's just that you can't see it happening. Making if visual, will not help.
im actually somewhere on the planet earth
anybody want to see a cute picture of my dog
No, that's like baby pics...beauty is in the eye. Don't make us lie to you.
Thanks. What's the cost of a deathbloom? Ignoring bis rolls.
you wouldn’t be able to say that again after looking into his big beady German Shepard eyes
idk - most likely whatever people are offering for it
watch trade post for a few minutes and youll see repeat asks
thats usually a good indication
might be a chest and some change so 20k+? unsure
👍
I wonder how many of the hype-men accounts in this server are actually just onepeg
Was trying to buy one for quite a while last night for 2 full chests and 2 full spectrals, no takers at all.
you’d be surprised to hear it’s 0
can anyone else not able to connect to game or jus me
yea it'd be weird if onepeg had access to my accounts
the passwords are encrypted with md5 hash ran through other hashes
gotta protect my ironmace hype man alt accounts
I like the idea of onepeg stealing discord accounts to hype people up for a vastly disappointing water map inclusion
enmity sells
your calling to become a youtube takedown channel is on the horizon
way too lazy for that, and I'd do something better than take potshots at garden-variety evil if I had to put in that much effort
DED GAME TIME FOR ARC SDF CANT STEAL THESE GAME FILES LLOL
What would yall say the best class in squire lobbies is
Fighter seems popular
What kind of fighter? Longsword?
I haven’t played much S2R and haven’t played in general in 2 weeks but when I did play it seemed all shapes of fighter were common. If you’re coordinated with a team, heater shield frontline fighter would be good, if you’re not then maybe slayer fighter.
As repoze said, if you wanna win don’t use longsword
Thank you, I appreciate the detailed answer
Of course, honestly in S2R whatever class you’re comfortable with should work. I’ve played rogue with randoms and it worked well
o_o
its an isp issue just try it lol
happening to me. too
vpn or maybe reset router sometimes works
sometimes you just have to turn the vpn on and then off its because of a bad connection it keeps revertiung to
WHY IS DO NOT FILL THE STANDARD?
awesome game none of my stuff get saved after going Red wohoo awesome game
Man yall really love complaining lol
stfup you just complained
you just complained because I said the game is screwing up take a hint rekt
gg BB
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Hello tavern police? I just witnessed a murder
🦯 🚶🏻♀️
wdym nothing saved? You just showed up butt naked in the dungeon?
ill fuckin do it again
get good at longsword problem solved
Noob weapon for noobs
it cooks you just need to play the game well
patch it
You’re perpetuating a psy op to keep timmies holding down right click while we, the old and experienced, kill them for free around their riposte
The amount of times i completely outplay a longsword user with my halberd but get oneshot anyways is fuckin pathetic. There's no justification to this state of longsword, every fuckin class that can run longsword is running longsword because it's just so fuckin broken nothing even comes close to it, every other weapon is hot dogshid compared to longsword, it has a very meagre movement speed penalty of -30 despite being a two hander and doing more damage than MANY TWO HANDED WEAPONS (zweihander (insanely tiny raw damage difference), spear etc.), it needs to have lower base damage and atleast 25% reduced damage on parries, the game is genuinely fuckin unplayable if you're not running longsword, stop coping, this shit is not fuckin balanced nor fair, look around you, everyone and their mother is running longsword FOR A REASON. Nerf longsword and make every other fighter weapon viable iron hammer!
I mean maybe try something more than Andy lobbies and you’ll actually fight ppl with more than 2 game hours 🤔
anyone have link to collector discord?
I was typing a meaningful reply to a good point you made, but that comment was so annoying. I literally have more hours in high roller than you have on the game. We were close to coming to an understanding.
My Watch Has Ended. It Has Been an Honor, Gentlemen.
Everybody is shitting on game now, and I just want to write one last thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Around 2 years ago, I played day and night. I woke up to play, when I slept I dreamed of playing, and when I wasn’t playing I talked about what we were going to do when we play.
Dark and darker we called it darker. Play darker, wanna play darker? Darker? Play? Rdy? Play play play.
Happiness from killing that first Ghost King. Sadness from dying with a bunch of good shit.
Adrenaline when we fought 2-3 teams in trio.
Laughing at some random shit in VOIP lobbies, pickpocketing arrows from some ranger.
Anger when a patch dropped and my class got nerfed.
Excitement for a new map, a new patch, new quests.
Pure joy when you hit that parry.
That stupid frog “gentleman” meme every week or so. Frustration when a random betrayed you we were all cutthroats, thieves, and murderers. I loved it all.
Damn, so many emotions. Gentlemen, it has been an honor holding the line with you.
There is an old saying in my country: when you defend, you don’t worry about the army attacking you, you look back to see what you are defending. And well… it hardens me to say this, but what is behind me is no longer worth it.
Maybe one day I will pick up my longsword again. But for now... my watch has ended.
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dies of cringe
iron hammer are you seriously?...
...who is does a spider are to mummy? your sayjng somebody is go the dungens and is choosed to wrap a bandages for spideer ?
many spidrer. Hundreds spideer. Infinate spider...And then is a put they in a vase.? This is doesnt sense.......
remove spiffer mommy from you game . How many time im keel to a spider r r mumm.y.... becaus he is infinate coming from he jar, are to quickly.. ..... stop this nosense.
chill out dawg
Cleric Pocket Heal Looking for 2 (LF2) RUSH PVP NORM. No base kits (must have +5 MS on boots). No wandering. Bring meds (Blue+) for lobby wiping, fast bossing, and treasure hoarding. Competence, composure, and competitiveness are required. Follow my lead at all times.
Requirements:
• 1500+ hours of playtime.
• Meta classes only (If your class was nerfed within the past two weeks, we cannot play. No Rogues, Warlocks, or Barbarians).
• 3090ti or equivalent graphics card required.
• Must have gamma settings installed and properly configured.
Loot Rules:
• If we get SK or named items, they must be given to me for selling (Exceptions for e-girls who can extract with them).
Other Requirements:
• Must have hit Demi-God at least once, Voyager/Exemplar+.
• No “Timmies,” no noobs, no Rogues, and no stoners.
• Dedicated and passionate players only.
• Must have mastered at least four different classes, with 3–4 kits ready for each to minimize downtime after a wipe.
Must have AT LEAST 2 referrals
Restrictions:
• No streamers (I may use offensive language when angry).
• No children.
• No women (unless you’re a level 100 goth mommy with a GYATT).
That explains it, this guy only knows the new wave copy pastas. That’s so disappointing
hes got standards, and knows what he wants. i can respect that lol
This could’ve been really funny with some old school ones but once a Timmy always a Timmy; another nobody rage baiting troll.
for sure. my buddy madfighter is one of the best fighters to every play this game and hes a sword and board expert and id put him up against pretty much anyone that says the game takes no skill lol. have fun with that nightmare
If you’re going to cite copy pastas that aren’t from 2023 or Q1 2024 stop @ing me
You’re perpetuating a psy op to keep timmies holding down right click while we, the old and experienced, kill them for free around their riposte
You never got to experience the sense of community and fun in this game and it shows. For your sake I hope the game comes back so you can have that feeling of acceptance for just one fleeting moment
I was typing a meaningful reply to a good point you made, but that comment was so annoying. I literally have more hours in high roller than you have on the game. We were close to coming to an understanding.
i think its gonna be hard to find people to play with if they need to have a certain graphics card and referrals man
I love goblin' men
get good at longsword problem solved
would anyone like to help me level a new bard
I secured the world’s first highroller stingray kill. What did you achieve other than holding right click on that longsoy? You overestimate yourself. Keep being a coward in plates. You are basically a nobody outside of fighter chat
I mean maybe try something more than Andy lobbies and you’ll actually fight ppl with more than 2 game hours 🤔
when the copy pasta works
get this man a true
True

I got got by copy pastas, it took me until the recognizable ones to realize what was happening.
🌭 🍇 🍌
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I apologize- well fucking played John Dark and Darker. Truly a masterclass

are the servers fucked?
Steve Irwin tried to solo the stingray boss RIP
trauma
emotional ngl, another one gotten by John; ggs sir
queueing norms duo west gob caves rn
ive been freezing recently just losing kits
W servers
game not working?
servers are using the restroom
game still have random hr maps huh? unfortunate
cant connect to servers gg wp
dead game ty random hr map ./.
8485 profile picture is based
When new update
speak of the devil
Stop the fking rogue solo meta. 2 months is ENOUGH
whens wipe?
Game does not work like intended
instructions unclear
try finger, but hole
Im allready so out of DaD for the past months.... ive just been waiting for the game to be good again for like half a year now. i just hope todays patch is the one. If there would be the slightest effort to try and balance solo again, even if its a trash balance patch, just PLEASE change something and dont let cleric/barbs be literally inescapable and unbeatable for equal melee classes. Balance allways sucked but it sucked less when they tried at least. or just drop multiclass allready...
Just had a player spawn as a golem on ruins and proceed to team up with the 2x ranger WL team. Talk about fun and engaging gameplay!!! another great raid of dark and darker!!! its matches like this that make me wanna que up again 😄
patch is coming 
👉👈 🥺
so what's new

patching dident start yet (right?)
what is the best chest piece for smite dp cleric, i personally like mystic vestments for the mdr and affordability but is arcane garb or adventurer tunic better?
remove random
Game never fails to disappoint.
30min - 1hour till patch
Banger or nothing burger patch? How we feeling
nothing burger is better than burned one
I’m used to filling up my tummy on nothing burgers and charred patches I could really use a delicious treat!
what is delicious treat for you?
Imagine making a water map, not even making it so that all classes can play to their full extend there and then looking at your player count wondering what happend. But dw guys, faustian que and paid gathering halls will bring the game back to its former glory
So patch notes come after ?
20minutes till patch
I don’t really know to be honest, I don’t expect anything substantial mid wipe. I think anything that hints towards the right direction would be a treat enough.
circle being removed no way
map selection pls
Fr?
yeah check reddit
Map selection ?
Where is the patch notes tho?
sdf said in a twitch stream maybe or its fake
Can I click my map
we've come full circle lol
he might remove circle just because playabase number are so low and because sparky complained about it he cant do boss
I think its a good change and water map will be way better without it
This guy only starts understanding when the playerbase is dying.
SDF also promised to balance solos, what happend to that?
it's unbalanced?
Player base is dead, if he doesn't give through to what the players want then arc raiders will continue to take half his player base. Hell prob more than half, most arc people i meet play DAD and quit due to bs.
When did he promise that
😂
Kitchen
ppl in this chat are like pac`s thinking why to much shit into things ... arc is just a new and interesting game it is only natural lots of ppl start playing it ... the will also stop playing it somewhen ... and also start playing dnd somewhen maybe
Also arc isent even close to simular to Dark and Darker
I guess like 99 % of the DaD player base which is playing the game for a few years now have played different games in between and return at some point ....
We have bad devs and rhe years of no progress shows it. Time to move on boys
A dev with tons of promises and 0 work.
I absolutely agree .... if there would be something comparable .... like a medieval fantasy extraction first person thingy .... we could talk about saying ppl are moving to this game ... but right now it's the only game that makes sense on this market
Oh hai Sdf in kitchen~ Long time no see!
give it up for Patch #100 !! SUUURELY this fixes the game 
Yeah like i dont get why thers pepole that keep going on that arc is gona kill Dark an Darker. i mean thats like saying that GTA6 is gona kill the elders scrolls 6 or something like that
Patch 100 is big number, surely not only barb will be changed
😂 ✌️ minecraft is going to kill chess
2 weeks for a mid patch LETS GO
Surely water map won't be forced into HR because idk, classes are not even finished?
I mean idealy classes will never be finished and we will keep getting new and exciting stuff for each for years to come
Oh! sdf is sharing thought about the circle! Can't wait what he is going to say!
the water map is already in hr but whatever ... the classes will never be finished wake up ... have you ever seen a game with fully finished classes that never ever change again? .... Like a still played game
Remove circle
oh so the patch is upcoming
where can i see patch notes
Go play wizard on watermap and comeback
Sdf said something in the kitchen
??? what's the problem with wiz on water map ???
Ok you might be new, dw about it man
cant cast spells? like half of em
I have like 2k hours ... ah yh you can't cast fire spells under water ? you still have lightnings and arcane ?? and surface above the water?
Honestly diffrent maps should bring diffrent challenges to overcome which diffrent classes excell at or have a more difficult time at
Ok so I have 2 spells that work in the water, thanks for explaining
Anyone else try to spectate and get frozen on dad screen?
exactly it's just interesting that there is something new chalanging but ppl here are like "ahh the games does not go my way it's dieing .... there is still 10k players playing it daily but .... " 😂
10k players and i cant get different people in kindgom dungeon normal in europe queue
not sure how you play wiz but I have way more spells working under water and I do basically try not to be under water that much .... I use the zip lines and boats and try to stay on the surface
I personaly would love if there were more ways to interact with the diffrent maps as diffrent classes (Like the frozen ways in ice caverns that classes with high impact weapons can break) or some of the closed gates on crypts (i do wish there were more of both of those)
Which lightning spell are you talking about? Bro you clearly have no idea
I have ice bolt arcane missiles slow haste chain lightning
zap ...
Chain lightning in solos ok bro
But hey, guess what? People may leave but loyal fans stay. Look at those beautiful hearts emote in sdf kitchen.
weres the kitchen channel even?
😂 even without chain lightning there is more than 2 spells you can use under water ... but dude whatever keep on complaining
It’s above
sdf fans masochistic.
wow such a big 10k daily player fan base pressing 7 heart emojis in discord when the game is about to receive a new patch
Ok so you have 5 1 meter zaps, missiles are EASILY dodged. 5 ice bolte cool. Ok bro

i think i might be missing a role 🤔 so thx for the link it dosent normaly show for me
remove random dont force ppl to play shitty maps
Also you literally have to take 10 spell wizard in solos, because with standard build, you literally wont have spells aside from MM and trash zap in the water, but keep on spewing lies out of your ass
dude I just don't care for your opinion tbh ... but it's just my thinking hopefullly there is people listening to your shit about the game is dead because wizzard is hard to play on the water map .... but I won't any longer 😂
I have never said that, barely anyone already mained wiz in solos genius.
I mean the game isent balanced around solos if i recall and arent we suppose to get new wiz spells anyways?
Be kind Shukran. 
No we have less spells than before. Let alone new spells after 2 years.
SDF promised solo balance in the kitchen, never happend. He only lies when everyone is leaving.
I don't know each week I see another class in the leaderboard on #1 Top assasins
I remeber ppl have been complaining so hard about druid .... one week we had a druid with 293 kills in 4d ... 😂 now ppl complaining about wiz .... right now there is a wiz with around 100 kills in 2d
So SDF promising that and doing nothing is ok?
Yeah man weekly kills such big indicator of anything. Not like 3/4 of the lobbies are gray AP farmers. Please stop talking 2k player jesus
what's your guys measurements on that? like "I have difficulties playing wizzard on watermap" are you kidding us?
Easy D (for SDF)
Stop talking about things you dont understand and wont understand.
This game is probably the only thing you have and i know you wont give it up (unless its for sdf)
I don't care about SDF I'm just rly wondering how "I have difficulties playing wiz on the water map" can be anything else then just a crieing babies argument
What r we hoping sdf gonna add?
Wizard hurt my feeling as a fighter. ouchy.
Bro, i dont even play since he forced water map. Dont be so delulu and instead understand the sheer incompetence and lack of care for the general view of things
I see so you are the expert talking here I guess -.-
hey where can i see the patch notes
Not yet.
Sdf kitchen
I hope they bring back map rotations
oh, are the servers gonna drop for a while when it releases or its just gonna be instant reboot?
i was gonna try my PVP setup i built for normal but uhh, i dont wanna loose it to the server reboot...
he'll release patch and talk in his kitchen
Gonna take the 2 h plus the additional 1 an additional 1
Likely gonna drop for a while. I never seen it will be instant reboot unless tiny tiny patch.
oh damn, so basically a day is over for me.
What is your wizard fame btw
just logged off so I can't check ... nothing crazy maybe something around 300? ... But bro maybe ask the guy who's right now this weeks #1 top assasin in solo high rolers ... accidentally playing wizzard I guess
guess he'll explain you why wiz is not such a useless class you think -.-
patch
Does he always send one message every 30 min 😭
Cool, so 1 guy is wrecking ap farmers. Im amazed really
Imagine arguing that wizard is not bad but like ignoring the fact that SDF cares so little he will force the map on us before making it even legit lmao
the map is quite good I feel ... but yh i don't main wiz this whipe ... maybe I would be salty as you are if I would no idea ...
Its not about the class alone, its the approach of the main dev, that is the slow and painful death of this miserable and tired game
also I like how ppl still have basically no idea what to do on different engages 😂
I don't mind fire magic not working in water map, but there is an issue caused by the combination of fire magic not working in watermap and being forced to play a random map. Which is that you cannot safely build around fire spells when there is a chance you roll a map that disables a significant part of your kit.
we going to space boys
^
Also, we are still ignoring that SDF promised to balance solos and didnt.
I don't feel it's unbalanced and I don't feel your argument about "I have difficulties on water map with wiz" is a valid argument in this discussion but nvm
I have 1k fame on wiz. I dont struggle with wiz on water map because i never play it. You are so ignorant for still saying that or just a sad ragebaiter.
Knock back arrows in space hooooolllyy
A space? Sdf, dont go astray to sci fi! Stay in fantasy!
you said that your own before when I asked you why you think it's unbalanced 😂
@proud copper please tells us more about plans for creating more build variety, changing existing skills/perks/spells or adding new ones. It's the best content in the game for me
Where?
I mean space dosent have to be fantasy space can be more eldritch horror then sci fi like a call of cuthulu like setting
you said like cry cry wiz has only 2 spells on the water map cry cry

no patch notes yet?
ancient eldritch ruins in space we go trough
Yeah? There are like 2 usable damaging spells you ape
😂 yh sure I'm the ape but I can count with more than 2 fingers I guess?
with abominations and mindflayers and stuff instead of spacey sci fi things
Ah ur being muted, classic paid Ironmace "easy D" in the chat

Games gonna be dead before it ever leaves EA.
Tavern is like a car, people loose all rationale once they get in
you mean like yourself?
Please tell me how many damaging spells does wiz have in the water
Gasp! Sdf is about to talk about the circle
Chat do we think the circles removed
for sure. my buddy madfighter is one of the best fighters to every play this game and hes a sword and board expert and id put him up against pretty much anyone that says the game takes no skill lol. have fun with that nightmarefor sure. my buddy madfighter is one of the best fighters to every play this game and hes a sword and board expert and id put him up against pretty much anyone that says the game takes no skill lol. have fun with that nightmarefor sure. my buddy madfighter is one of the best fighters to every play this game and hes a sword and board expert and id put him up against pretty much anyone that says the game takes no skill lol. have fun with that nightmare
But yeah main thing i mean here is space could easly work if it goes more of the abberation and eldritch vibes with maybe a space backdrop to tie it together to still stay fantasy


sdf is evol
guys do you like guava
i like artificial guava flavors
i like pumpkin pie
Guys SDF is realizing for the 3th time that circle is bad.
Also promised solo balance 6 months ago
We are in good hands, faustian que and Paid gathering halls on the way
sdf kitchen crazy talk as usual... like the reason the game is dead again is the watermap.. they gave up on balance, they lowered ttk which nobody wanted, they force random on HR which nobody wanted, they brought back circle which nobody wanted... SDF is still in full control and refuses to acknowledge feedback, that is the main problem IM has as a company, it allways was...
hey, I know that sdf is not perfect. Wanna take a break from this game and play arc or league?
mid raiders
Not perfect? Bro is fresh out of school, sorry skipped school.
I quit (again) the moment he forced water map.

its been 2 hours bro
😂 👍
space ship battle let's goooooooooooooooo guys
2 and half
sdf vision ready to go space now
but since the modules are random, isn't it the same as random portals?
Spcace can mean alot more like sci fi tho it could instead go with an eldritch and abberation theme to create quite a unquie and intresting yet still fantasy dungeon with just a space backdrop
Circle is fine on crypts and squire to riches, I think it works less well in HR because the PVE is annoying there ever since they made it 100% nightmares
neh if it would be only random modules you would have the fights over the portals always in the portal modules .... of course they are random somewhere but it's juts more interesting for them being completly random @tender ledge
Yeah, please bring back red mobs and some nightmares
yeah space cool asf, but i dont believe sdf bro
wheres sdf kitchen
getting rid of circle (again) this late doesnt do much, its too late
if you can't see #sdfs-kitchen get the roles in id:customize
I do agree with sdf on his reasoning, and the "controled number of random portals" thing was a big part of what i loved about early DaD. If it was for me, I pref zone... but the thing is: 1. Its clear the majority of players dont want this, and player numbers take a hard hit for it.. 2. We tested no zone a while back and it just isnt true that you cant find fights... 3. As long as they leave rope/gate/boat it is totally pointless anyway
@proud copper alright, You make a good point with the circle. I'm fine with that. But please consider to reduce the amount of nightmare mobs or increase the game time. It's difficult to clear a room as solo hr. Especially in inferno map.
bruh where is patch
I literally have no problem with circle forcing me to migrate except for the fact that on Water Map it makes bosses entirely undoable after like 5 mins into the round
stop type shit patch your game
well yes, the circle denies boss most of the time
2 hours and half
you guys think we will have some black friday stuff?
Yeah black Friday reintroduction of patch 69 maybe
Patch soon I swear
if sdf said two hours, expect like 4 hours. come back after two more hours. We know his pattern anyway
gotta wait for god emperor sdf to finish his evil monolog
Ytf would we take dark and darker to space...
sdf doin anything to not make me a featherless harpy skin
sdf is typing !!!!!
who tf still plays this lmao
Fully commited to solo players. So thats why my solo wizard gets landmined in 2 seconds and water map is garbo. Need to decrease ttk more i think
finally the patch notes
move on hoss this game is dead
Copium huffers or people who enjoy current gameplay (Read: No one)
game is a joke
Hotfix 100, its gonna be a big one surely
For quite a while it has been.
thank god this game is dead, most deserved shit ive ever seen
still keeping random xddd
dev deserve it same w tarkov
Tarkov is better than this swill of a game. (Still sucks though)
Update looks good but would of loved random match making to be gone on HR
Anything is better than this spaghetti code mess lmao
AND WE’RE STILL NOT TOUCHING PURGE SHOT OR RANGER DAMAGE🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@proud copper when demigod rewards reveal?
Is sorcerer just getting nerf after nerf?
after shit talking ass patch w sdf
Remove random map @proud copper
Remove random map @proud copper
This game has become it's own Lolcow.
Remove random map
an indicator is displayed on items that are required for the currently active quests - at fking last. Now we just need auto fill gold bags with loose gold.
You forgot to say remove circle
Remove random map @proud copper
random HR again fuck this shit
REMOVE THE CIRCLE DUDE WTF
did yall know bubba got blown by DT
where is remove circle et remove random map is this a joke @proud copper
Ramdomized maps will kill your game
can we just go back to dungeon rotations wtf listen to your 3k playerbase @proud copper
it's dead already LMFAO
Apparently she had a horse named bubba 
too late the game has been dead g
Remove circle and random Map



What a patch its so good
nice ragebait
Reverse Psychology doesn't work on these devs.
AND WE’RE STILL NOT TOUCHING PURGE SHOT OR RANGER DAMAGE🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
fr LOL
It was a good patch but random HR staying is very icky
so zone didnt get removed?
Bro these devs
Not enough wizard nerfs
Oh thank God they nerf to sork again. Was totally so overpowered
when will these devs listen to their players lol
one day sdf will realize he is poking holes in his ship and it will all sink 🥹
LMAO he didn't remove random map, RIP DAD offically.
this time ı enjoy watching the games die
Never.
zone aint even that bad outside getting griefed while tryna boss, original version of the game had zone i dont see why its a big deal all of a sudden
Well jeez thank God I got ark raiders. Patch notes are nothing burger besides making blue Maelstrom drop even more loot
unfortunately will forever be one of the most debated things about darker lol
mod how much you make getting rid of my comment?
Hahahahahhahahaha what an shit update, omg im excited the game will finally die, so i can let it go from my heart and memory
i feel like its only newer players complaining about it. personally i dont care either way but i do like that it prevents easy extracts so i can actually get fights
grow up bruh
looking to improve overall player experience
FAUSTIAN MOBS NOW DEAL MORE DAMAGE
ADDED SKELLETON CROSSBOWMAN FAUSTIAN
The bait is real. Ignore them and move on lol.
AND WE’RE STILL NOT TOUCHING PURGE SHOT OR RANGER DAMAGE🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
games gonna die bc u can’t make everyone happy with a game like this it’s literally just not possible
it's arc. not ark.
who knows maybe bro is fighting dinos instead of arcs
all we need is good quality content, thats the only way to make everyone happy at least for a short while
Man back to having fun on a actually developed game like Arc
Using text to speech on the phone
bro it’s already sinking
yea but at this point it’s more likely that arc raiders dominates the market
I will happily indirectly support Nexon so they can ruin this guy

arc raiders isent even close to dark and darker guys
Can we go back to choosing our highroller map already
ik i’ve had the game uninstalled for over 6 months it was miserable as soon as that disaster of a new map dropped
game made it shot last water map first reveal, soon dnd will just became a memory, sad way this game had to die
What is Requiem of the Fairy?
true it has 4x the playerbase peak then dad ever had
It says extraction in the game genre so everyones gonna jump on that and say they are similar. You can like or hate either one but comparing them doesn't make sense.
for now yeah, sad because the core game play of dark is way better than any other extraction
Don't make NSFW/inappropriate comments in here please.
i play the game here and there still bc i love the concept but its so hard to play for the past year cus of all the garbage they are pulling
A craftabel spell book
Hahahaha i cant, these patch notes.
i know right literally one of my favorite combat systems ever and they slaughter all the potential it had it’s genuinely heartbreaking
Can't believe we're not getting big update for hotfix 100
I just cant believe that shield fighter is dead. Heater shield gets -5 speed. Why? Im already like a sitting duck. Mosquito rogue gonna abuse me harder..
what do you mean, lizards can now wear hats
Game wont stop sinking. Makes me sad.
what's sinking bro, guy had an ocean and tons of fish to work with, how he has a crooked ship in the middle of a desolate desert
i cant find it on the wiki what stats are changed
Tru tho
After these patch notes I’m glad arc raiders came out 🤣🤣
"Races that were previously unable to equip Headgear can now equip hat-type Headgear. When wearing a hat, Race abilities will not be applied."
@proud copper revert pdr on next patch, fighter needs some fat buffs
Idk, why a landmine deletes me in 1 second. I got the same question but keep rooting for your boy SDF
Can already see the next hotfix. (Fixed race abilities working with hats)
Its a purple spell book that i think basicly had legendary stats? i think it got toned down a bit now so it dosent just out shine legendary books now i assume. It has extra magic dmg

Another recycled bullshit patch, love to see it. Can't wait for Expedition Project on Arc raiders.
yea you and me both, I loved this game and it's just so sad to see it tank this hard
ok ty
last added new crafting gears feels like unnecessary, who tf in their right minds wants PDR stats on their halberd. these devs needs to stop what their smokin
Arc Raiders is a PVPVE extraction looter game, so yeah, the games have some things in common?
bruh needed a challenge so he made the water map, as is fixing the game wasnt CHALLENGE ENOUGH @proud copper
every piece of new gear they dropped with water map feels unneeded 😭
Remove random map @sdf
Really wish they would stop adding new things to break the game and get the basics of the game fixed then add more.
holup all the tidal gear is what is trash the other new items lowkey fire
welp, at least we can press button once to sell all goodies in merchant. Been needing that.
Nah bye bye, i have been eating shit as a solo wizard and dad player for way too long. Arc raiders here we go
why are u devs so ride or die with random map hr norms players learn a map and dont even go hr cause they cant even get the map. oh nice water map love rolling for it 1 out of 4 times to try for named on manitee
Remove random map @proud copper
BRUH SAID "NAH BYE BYE"
"The continuous Matchmaking window has been reduced for all dungeons."
nice
yall need to just all hop on valheim
Hi folks, I'm seeking a nice group of people with whom play
We've been asking devs to remove random map on hr since water map release and all we get is long queue time for hr lmao
nah, i like enshrouded better
yeah the basic idea is the same but the mechanics and theme are vastly diffrent after all one is a medival Dungeon diving game and the other is a third person futuristci (is it post apoclypse ? i havent seen that much of it yet) i mean Skyrim is an Rpg and Fallout is an rpg but one wont kill the other if you get what i mean
Add a battle royale
What’s the spiked gauntlet?
I actually like the rando map.
I hate picking goblin caves just to see 10 people with 1234 as their name farming bosses before the round has been going for 1 minute.
valheim clears
Left to the next level in a red portal and then after I blue portal out the items weren't there at the guy who you get your items that you stash
True phys purple heavy gauntlets you can craft
@proud copper listen to your playerbase

And someday, I really want us to explore space as well.
Biggest clown dev I’ve ever seen , just do us all a favor and shut the game down
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHH full mov speed CLUB and LANTER lmao
all 600 of them
silly didnt you listen to sdf random HR makes the game less repetetive and if sdf says so its true duh
biggest l patch 2025
space can be done well and kept fantasy if you go more of an eldritch and abbaration theme
Ngl this right here made me almost uninstall. I have no desire in this game for space...
oh no we dont want to q ice caves or water map fix the maps instead of forcing players on it. not like ur gonna listen to our words about how to fix either map anyways
He DOESNT listen to us and that’s why the game is dying lol
Mf is focusing on creating a space map instead of fixing the actual game LMAO
again! a lot of small meaningless changes no one asked for. it is just "lets pretend: we are working here" . just lies and corpo bs
meaningless "class balance" changes. what about other classes than warlock or sorc? even made changes - just revert perks to previous state
no addressing statter issues (after "anticheat" update). btw how many cheater did IM caugh? what about lagdrop cheaters?
teaming gold farmers in every region (lets pretend they are not there!)
"natural preventon of crow play" - every fight is a guy hugging red to escape after taking a bit of damage 🤣 🤣
- Added new Faustian Bargain monsters: Skeleton Guardman, Skeleton Crossbowman, Frost Skeleton Footman, Frost Skeleton Crossbowman.
- Overall damage of Faustian Bargain monsters increased.
- Faustian Bargain – Skeleton Footman, Frost Skeleton Guardman, Zombie, Frost Walker Action Speed increased.
- Faustian Bargain – Giant Centipede can now move while performing normal attacks and Action Speed increased.
@proud copper can you stop with the faustian crap already they're already extremely annoying and now you're giving them more damage fuk off bro, no wonder the game keeps losing fans
nothing can be done well with these devs 'working'
It can be done in a really cool way if you go for an eldritch horror and abberation theme with space just as a backdrop to stuff like ancient temples and co of a long gone civilisation
i mean the QoL changes have been asked for years...
just stop bro its over
lets fix red portals, thanks
SDF is making the playerbase so little so its gonna be easier to listen to the playerbase
the vision
sdf's ideal player base is just him and him alone
the guy listens only to the vision
The same 4 dudes that keep stating they will leave every day are here every day posting.... ok
is kinda so sad, lmao... XD
Nah we are cooked. You guys realize faustian que and paid gathering halls are next right?
vision straight from delululand at the bottom of his watermap
For alot of people space = lasers and spaceships. But that probably wouldn't fit well within a fantasy medieval game. So maybe it could be good to talk about what their concept of space in dark and darker is in sdfs kitchen.
@hexed adder when the ring going away like SDF said in Endboss's chat a few hours ago?
Remove random map @proud copper
Yes please, we desperately need another map hahhahahahaa
@sdf please don't listen
why sdf even buffed lantern and club mov speed?
google "astral plane dungeons and dragons"
wonder what animals and clown circus crap is he gonna add there
Yeah agreed alot of pepole forget that stuff like eldritch horror and abberations with ancient ruins and templs can be done with a space backdrop to make a fantasy space themed dungeon
yea, this
Please SDF promise me another map, where my spells wont work again, after seeing "New Skill system in development" for 2 years, after 2 years of nerfs, nothing new. Please peomise me another dogwater map
I dont need to, I'm well aware, but I think when he mentions space if thats what he's thinking about it would be good to tell everyone.
"Im leaving guys" - Most active guy on the disc server . . .
goodbye game, is dying
wait did he really mention space
twice now
Lmao, negative review, hard unninstall, back to an actual game
what's a "hard uninstall" LOL
When you're sweating as you press the button fiercely
i wish i was rich so i could just buy the game from sdf and fix it instantly hes such an artard
Dude stated he will not sell and will either succeed or fail with this game.
lol I learned you can't say I diot
if i gave him 10 million he would sell instantly dont get it twisted
He failed so
WE WON, THE CIRCLE WILL BE ELIMINATED IN THE FUTURE
k, its going to come right back just like everything else we do here
i think your underestimating his ego
I think he wants to spectacularly fail, like his entire game dies and delist on steam type deal
damn heater shield really needed another nerf, game is fixed
nerf wizard
for now. it will come back (:
like seriously, dont have ssf for 2 weeks at the start of the wipe... people quit after 2-3 days because it sucks, get rid of random hr get rid of circle and bring back gobo merchant recovery for hr............... and i promise 5-10k people come back for this wipe and 15-20k more people stay at the start of next wipe
LOL
Haha absolutely unproffesional development of a game, completely random, main guy of the company using twitch chat, everything is wrong, everything
He's succeeding!
if this fails are you buying the game for 10 mil?
To hope this game has any future is so naive, I have been saying this for 2 years and nothing changed
why are you still here then
does the game still sucks?
yeah its horrible
@hollow atlas if he does that i wouldnt be able to buy it for 10m because it would be worth 25-30m because the player count would 10x
Thats why I said "if"
from sunday night to thursday night yes, it sucks and is boring but at least they put their best mode up for a few nights
why do i get regions not available message
he will sell when only players left are chines rmt and they eventually leave too since nobody would buy shi
good patch
If random map not removed I'm gonna ult
i swear if i was incarge the game is 50k on at all times
😐
was just thinking over the weekend how long melt lasts
soooo 2 weeks for this ?
Thanks, I will be back in 2026 to ask again. Hope the game dies and everyone involved in its death becomes homeless
off since nam
here we go again another row of changes no on asked for.
Ironmace acting like they are working on something but in reality they just change random shi.
imagine removing random dungeon
w
Add new characters
will there be a black friday sale
@dull estuary bro people dont want to play the game even when its free
im asking if theres a black friday sale
no because nobody is gonna buy this slop of a game
why is it slop
Where druid and ranger nerf? @proud copper
AND WE’RE STILL NOT TOUCHING PURGE SHOT OR RANGER DAMAGE🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
glad the games visibly improving we went from weekly slop updates just nerfing what ppl in tavern cry about to legit sounding like they understand current pain points in the game. sdf your change in effort is not unnoticed bro 🫡
yay bladehand is back on the menu
PVP HR bros, has anyone confirmed an artifact drop from the captains key room yet?
Dark and Darker going to the darkest realm of all: outer space
Sdf is the worst dev i've seen in any game ever
no one is hitting that shi or a frozen key we are hitting extract and praying for crypts
how on earth can we still not pick our maps
sdf defending map rotations because he thinks map select will make hr a ghost town
meanwhile
hr with map rotations is a ghost town
now players are as miserable as before and without the freedom to choose
and it looks like things are getting worse 🥴
how out of touch are u @proud copper
are they removing the circle or not?
no they're removing players
never follows his communities words ig 
what players?
I don't understand how ghost lobbies are formed I would rather sit in a 10 minute queue or even longer to get a good lobby size than not be able to choose my map.
it's never good, if the community gave bad words of advice, he would think he's doing good, if they give good words of advice, he never listens
When wipe??
But he is eager to blame the state of things on us 🙂
Remember the pregame lobbies? I remember.
the remaining few
Yeah i remember sitting in those for like 10 minutes sometimes and getting somewhat full lobbies
Game so dead I don't even want to bother putting a clown emoji anymore.
sad to see a dev throw a unique game away bc he wants to follow his vision 
I also think that they could fix ghost lobbies by just getting rid of the excess gamemodes. Remove Squires to Riches, adventure mode, don't add a faustain bargain gamemode, I personally would remove arena but I know a lot of the playerbase likes that.
if i choose a random person in chat here he'll do much better than sdf
Remove random map for HR and S2R? Nah. Nerf Rogues invis?(bring back the silhouette) Nah. Medical Bag, Quiver, Gem Bag Nope
this is how much he's bad at being a dev
squires to riches is kinda needed tbh. Normals are a hell hole of either timmys or pepole running full gemmed blue bis which honestly isent a good enviorment for pepole to actualy learn pvp or the game
And no 'decrease the high-quality items drop-rate'...
Another number slider no content patch, vendor the game arch took ur players
Well we did have a huge content patch a while ago and a smaller content patch a bit after
i genuinely wonder why so many ppl are expecting hotfix #100 to contain content when every other content drop comes at wipe
I haven’t given us meaningful content in ages
atp if they EVER remove PVE modes, I'm out. I will never reinstall this game if they remove my beloved pve modes
The released an entire map with 2 bosses and new armor within the last 45 days, are you joking?
I mean we did get a huge new map and a ton of new gear
sounds like a joke but ppl genuinely do think like this
Squires to riches is goated
yeah alot of pepole just like this game as a nice chill Dungeon crawling experience tbh
map rotation ASAP
yeah, I'm one of them. dead serious. I played pvp modes when I knew no other option. I've tasted the mana of the gods. I will no longer tolerate dog food
more power to you
Will there be a Black Friday sale this year
I like the PvE but play PvPvE for the benefit of being able to beat up all the rats
probably christmas sale
Probably just wait and see
Was there one last year
it's myy treasure!
Of all the things taking up space in my memory that is definitely not one of them
yeah i also like the extra tension and the combat in this game if your around the same gear as the other person can actualy be quite satisfying and rewarding (or better/worse gear but skill or a class advantage to make up for it)
cant believe they are doubling down on faustians in HR?
LK balance changes were minimal it seems, they didnt nerf plasma blast tho. They did nerf sorc in general, which is good
reduced continuous dungeon is W
club nerfed? goated patch
Reduced continous matchmaking. When will they realize the royal rumble on ruins is actually a waste of time for everyone involved 🤔
that's... the whole point of the change lol
sdf do you realize that not allowing us to choose our HR maps is precisely why people are not playing your game? @proud copper
yea bud i think he's aware 🤣 #sdfs-kitchen message
reduced continuous is huge for everyone. no more loading in late to half dead lobbies for the pvp crowd... yall can find fights again... probably.
and us PVE grinders can load into games without pre-killed bosses
i hope they fix the bug where u cant buy redstone shards because the buy button in the shop doesnt work
idk why sdf says there is no enough players to do diff matchmaking pools while he brings a water map not even completed or implemented well and forces to play people in hr, thats so weird
i hope so too, check once it all comes up again i bet it'll be fixed
He tells us as much. It literally says they don't want to do the (visible) rotation either because it leads to the same empty dungeons.
in other words. People do not like the maps and do not want to play them. Lets shove them down their gullets. # SDF
@proud copper WHERE IS THE ROGUE NERF? HALF-DUNGEON IS ROGUE FLYING THROUGH THE SKY!
i doubt it but heres to hoping 
If I can join a game late there is no point in doing anything in this game. It's actually toxic, play through all of ruins and crypts, only to spawn into inferno 5-40% into the game. I spawned in the fkn dark swarm one time dude.
rogues have to spend x3 the amount of gold than other characters to compete lets keep it a buck
They nerfed bonk wiz and sorc. And Buffed club xd
ok i'm begging you to go back and reread that line lol it's literally REDUCING that risk
how unkeen of you to not see any sarcasm in the tavern chat "bud"
they nerfed club?
-1 damage and -2 movespeed when using it (-22)
yea I'm sure 🤣
I saw it. They literally aren't going to get rid of it because they can't afford to run servers for 3k players 🙄
yeah if you're looking for an extraction game that doesn't do this, I guess go play tarkov. Oh wait, arc raiders? no wait...
100+ servers would feel a lil expensive
right. which is why they're reducing the window of available continuous dungeon load in time... meaning you load into dungeons with more stuff and living players
to compete or actually delete any other solo he meets in less than 3 seconds
Maybe I can go back in time and play this game when it was good :(
both but if rogue makes 1 singular mistake hes dead 2/3 shots by geared
try PT 2-3-4 and patch 68-69, let me know if u can bring me
minecraft chatting in dnd cord 🤣
Why in the actual hell are we buffing club 🥀
they are nerfing it?? why cant people read
yea it's been a minute. anyway aren't you aware the game is down?
the game is down? didnt know that at all whatsoever in the slightest thanks for letting me know ill hop on minecraft too
media literacy moment
I woke up on patch 68 and my cleric kit went from 180k to 4k, bring me back baby. PT 2 and 3 were goated. Gobby caves was the beginning of the end for this game R.i.P DaD Feb 2023. The entire core concept of this game was shattered when people started spawning in rooms i just cleared.
It's fucking true
why don't they do partial map rotation as a compromise between random maps and full choice? you can always choose between 2 HR maps, they rotate every 5 min. longest you ever have to wait for your fav map is 10min... it seems so simple
skill issue
nah LK it started going downhill when they added warlock, the run and runner meta started
first it was HOLD THE LINE if your allies are fighting, you better fight too cuz its gonna be over in like 3 seconds tops
then it went into healing meta, if you could heal with a cleric you would win cuz people were slow to catch up and do a 2v3 on a single person
then warlock came out and run and runner started, rangers realized they could strip and run if their team lost
then door and doorer, when people didnt wanna get shot from archers, then druid and barb meta, running down people. Then it was barb and barber then this patch kinda rebuffed fighters a lil (we are here)
thats exactly the problem. Pepole hate ice caves and the water map which creates lobbys that are basicly empty cause pepole just wait for their fav maps . But those nearly empty lobbys with pepole that do like the ice caves or water map would still need a server for basicly 2 to 5 pepole which on its own isent bad but ramps up realllllly quickly which means costs ramp up quickly
I mean, every character they add gets stronger. I'm pretty sure at this point the monk is going to just be one punch man
Why they buffed faustian?
thats already happening though. you're still having players leave to start a new game lobby asap, making it 2 lobbies running simultaneously for about 10min. it changes NOTHING on server loads unless im missing something
giving the people what they want. Preggo goblins are next
Let's stay respectful, folks! 🙂
@proud copper just remove the dang circle man. Waiting for a proper replacement for it is stupid when you could make the game more enjoyable for people RIGHT NOW.
I saw there’s an update just wanted to come to a game I haven’t played in months and say it’s all your fault sdf
game is great right now, this patch is a W
i pulled the best fulgor this wipe from sk room game is great
same people wanting pve mode in this game are the ones saying the want a pve mode in arc raiders so they can team up against the clankers in an invigorating cinematic battle
What makes the patch a W?
They get to farm in peace because of the reduced player base.
Is it the same monster density/elite and nightmare ratio in solos as it is in trios?
yes
the nerf of spell book bonk is pretty sad
Thats why hr solos feels so bad ! Too much pve
Aurr, I told you this already. It didn't roll Magical Interaction OR Regular Interaction. Therefore, it's not bis.
I mean you could just go cleric and press the remove PvE undead button 
lol I think it ended up in a divine blade scammers inventory
HR solos is how HR should feels : difficult. HR trio is just a joke atp, we are far from what the pve used to be at the beginning of this game
Wow some quality of life!
this.
with the fantastic random rotation. You only have a 50% chance of that button being completely useless with gobo's or pirates. It's great
also the reducing range for bards songs just to resolve the water map problem in pretty lame, terrible adjustement. Let's say offensive songs are unplayable now (just like Din for like more than a year)
you can be the king of the pirate prison though, so W
they have to add hell in goblin caves
they were long range regardless
I think the Din and Shrill nerfs are because of Arena. These songs are barely used in normal dungeons, from my experience
I could. If half the dang time I wasn't spawning in a server that already ran for 6 minutes with the prison already edging the circle
We’ll be walking on the moon before that happens
I was unsing them (I mean shrill, Din is useless in solo), even in squire. I'm pretty disapointed with this change and the spell book attack change
I don't even see the good part of this patch... The demon buff maybe? idk
we need to be able to select our HR map, full stop. forcing players into maps they dont enjoy is what is killing this game. hard to find players to fill matchmaking pools when they don't even want to queue
I think barb needs another +5 vig
Guys we should make bets how far the player base still drops this wipe. I got 10$ on below 3k
Stop wasting dev time on the water map.... It will never be good
I remember 1 year ago when sdf said "ok now, after a year of turbo nerfing everything, we are done with nerfing, we are now going to buff things instead"? Todays patch ? 80% nerfs, cmon
watch us get water map hell before goblin caves
What'd you end up doing with that fulgor Aurr
sold it for more than 1m gold... sadly I prob will never top it
How many db exactly?
Bro almost had it, just let us choose a map and wait 10min queue if necessary
A db is around 100k. you do the math professor
So many excuses to not make a game that the players want
viola+2db+bis weaver+neck worth 2 full+1 full chest--- sold viola 2db+6full chest/kept 1 db-sold some dbs for 3 full each-weaver will go for 2db so another 6 full im sure i missed something it was a lot of trading lol
If only you were right
db is easy to sell for 3full chest dead rolled
this. 2 maps available at a given time, every 5min 1 map rotates. longest wait for your fav map is 10min. playerbase returns, data is gathered on which maps aren't as popular, fix those maps. it seems so simple...
and a chest is 24k at the moment, so 3x34 = close enough to 100k.
and a few weeks ago it was 2 full chests, when a chest was 40k.
always has been 100k. just chest price that has dropped.
same reason why last week for a bit they went for 2 full chest + 2 full spectral.
the chests were (30+10) and spectral (8+2.5). Same 100k ~isch
*edit, this was in reply to Aurr 2 posts up. But same point stands
the guy that bought the fulgor apperantly died with it saw it in trade chat and the guy is now trying to scam with divine blade
Even if I would love to believe in this.... Players wont come back because of that 
the #1 pain point I've seen complained about this season is that people are pissed they're forced to play on maps they don't like. Theres NO WAY solving that issue doesn't reinvigorate the playerbase, especially if done around the announcement of season rewards
mby remove the fking map rotation and people will come back
IM should really increase the amount of slots for trading--makes it so complicated with these scammers would prevent lots of scamming
Let us play crypts with filled lobbies, fix red statics and i think u got solid amount of hr players back. And thats just most basic things u can do in 30 min of dev time
I think they fired their static extract guy might take a year for those changes
what's the prob with statics red in HR?
opens too early no animation to leave--aka easy way out if losing a fight
Team is losing? Takes red
Back in the day if u wanted to go inferno u pretty much had to wipe the lobby
bro I saw a red portal the other day and felt nostalgic
oh yeah kind of true about lame escape way. Tbs I don't see the link about wiping the lobby, we were wipping lobby first floor because there wasnt continious dungeon so hell was then dead (which was a really bad point btw, it's way better now with funneling lobbies).
But bring back red portal only yeah
Sad to think they butchered this game. The only fun i had was playing sorc which gets nerfed every patch while being arguably the weakest class
Full circle from people mad at 10 min timer
i legit just havent played or read much in awhile. wat is faustian bargain and is it EvPvP mode?
Sorc is NOT the weakest class homie
u can turn into a cockatrice
Wait why do we have random HR still
Definitely on the lower end, and skill required is making it less viable than alternatoves
sorc if played well is so busted dare i say broken.

I was about to say lol, sorc is arguably the best class IF your good with it, otherwise the class is buns
The lore is a magical trader takes away to a place he doesn't even know that's dangerous (hr)
faustian bargain is you kill enough and you get to "get revange as an NPC mob" by controlling it
Ok, tell me a player that is busted with sorc
all u gotta do is levitate and then use the ice spell for a 2 second root and its a free win depending on the map and how geared other guy is
If you have high MS and cast speed with decent health, you literally can’t die, you just kite them on Sorc
i aint readin all that
sorc is so busted its like a free win
Im talking trios specifically, im sure u havent played sorc just mad u died to it
since the game is fucked rn until the patch finish, anyone got this game running on linux currently?
bro never played against a good ranger
Jar is insane at sorc, but nah I used to play Sorc, was pretty good with it, but moved to wizard, just felt more natural
facts bro every mid range class gets dominated by a good ranger
the venn diagram of those people, and people pissed about the water map... is a circle
lol i out range a good ranger with a poison weapon its not comparable
Arguably Sorc>Ranger bc of the lightning dash m spell
L ragebait
U levitate urself or give momentum to enemy by mistake and ur dead
arguably they just put their bow away and kite and pull it out again, there is no beating ranger unless they make a mistake 😮
Lmaoo
That’s what I’m saying though, it’s a high skill ceiling class, probably the highest in the game
dude its hitscan and ytou still have 2 other merge spells on rotate to save you if you miss the hitscan levitate
No, even if u land ur combo wiz can do more damage faster. Fireball q fireball
just look at the high roller top board for all classes, lol
Im one of them
stop coping on the sorcs idc if theres only one sorc player its still broken there no reason for one spell to kill a full bis rogue becuase of a two second root
My mom
oh okay sorry thought you were asking for examples my b
peak update i fear
fr bro lost a 30k rogue kit to lowkey a boof sorc cause he hit one root
lol
All I’m saying is the skill ceiling between both classes, sorcs is way higher, a good sorc can easily beat a Ranger
Ive seen kitted sorcs lose to budget rogues and?
skill issue
sorc can excel in tight corners and doorways, open area against a good ranger, naw
Yall never played the class and talking out of ass xD
Or a 2 second silence 🔕 SAY WHAT
you dont see a full kitted sorc die to a naked rogue because he landed one cutthroat..
you have to be a really good sorc, to beat an average ranger, if there's distance to be kited. In fact most with most classes you have to be way better than the average ranger
IF the fireballs land, and IF the sorc is in a bad position, sorc can easily out maneuver a fireball, your also forgetting that wiz has limited spells (in the current meta) sorc has unlimited spells, and with a high resourcefulness build the cast time and speed is reduced, making it almost insta cast just like wizard
class debates ... ahhh I love it 😊 ☕
U dont? Naked sorc wont kill a kitted rogue. It barely does any dmg and u aim for legs anulyway
When u dont play rogue and talk out ur ass:
naked sorc can kill a kitted rogue 1 root and that fast fire ball missle ggs
Ok ure baiting good to know

If your average at a class you know it’s flaws, and you know how to use it, meaning if a Sorc atleast knows how to use their class they will win 60/40
Where are all the sorcs it seems op
How am I baiting? It’s just common knowledge xD
is gaem up yet
High skill ceiling, hard to play, that’s why not a whole lot of people use it, played 20 games only came across 2 sorcs
soon. the patch rolled out to steam so good sign 👍
Hard skill ceiling + hard dps ceiling. Play wizard its easier and eay stronger
How long until delay?
rogue op, water map suck remove random dungeon hr and s2r bad game L sdf is all i see in here
i pressed play on blacksmith did i update without noticing
I will write the definitive balance text. This game is basically rock paper scissors between close mid and long range. Rogue, barb, and fighter typically beat mid range casters if they get close range. Ranger beats everyone at long range, also they have a shotgun and spear at short range so wait... caster warlock beats you at mid range if you can't dodge or use the environment to dodge. Druid is spider man in marvel rivals.
can we all just agree barb needs another +5 vigor buff
not far off. bard is medium to close range, cleric is close range but caster medium
the should give rage more movespeed 🙂
wait wait so your telling me certain classes will have a easier and harder time dealing with certain classes n the oversight of this by the average player has lead to misleading ideas on the balance of the game no that can't be
let's wait until club nerf settles 😉 maybe change axe spec again? 😮
Do you like… not read anything? I’m not trying to be rude, but what I’m saying is the truth, yes it has the highest skill ceiling in the game, but you must be forgetting combos on sorc, some of them IF you get caught in the combo, your dead, frost lightning, water, flame m spell, and your dead
some1 gimme the tl;dr version
of what, their sorc debate?
im excited for this quick sell button
The oversight is that ranger has no weaknesses, it's too good at mid close and far. If you play to any other classes weaknesses, regardless of what class you are you have a decent chance of winning, if a good ranger wants to kill you you pretty much just die.
sdf said he is aware that people complain and he is trying to do the best shtit he can to maintain a healthy gameplay loop while adhering to some of the communities major issues
TLDR games cooked
que the sdf coffin gif
and the quest item icon too 🤤
honestly would say ranger is strongest class tbh has the most favorable matchups and seeing as it's very role based it's super strong
good summary 👍
24 minutes left
i finished most of the quests this wipe but it's gonna be insane for next wipe
sure gimme all the sauce
incorrect answer!
+2 hours on timer!
don't put that evil on me ricky bobby
expected but not confirmed
fr questing was ver annoying trying to keep track of everything 😔
you mean 24 minutes until the game patches, we all queue and get into a match then they take it down bc they forgot to remove the bug where you can duplicate artifacts
Once the "BR circle" is removed, players can actually enjoy HR.
We are getting a quiver sooner than a patch ending on the scheduled time
It’s probably gonna happen aswell 😭
au servers are still dead sadly :C there is maximum 2 players in a raid including myself and the other guy is a pve squire farmer :C
log on and they made all weapons 5x length
thematically the circle fits only on squire right? it's the most "BR-like" mode
correct
i can see it on arena too but 3 mins to finish a game is too short
remove druid
HR maps enough high loot pois that circle isnt needed
Except daggers which they made .05x length and made dagger mastery inflict 5 true self damage every swing
it's not season 4 bro it's 2025
remove druid
idk i think it's alright on arena, timing wise. maybe vary the circle more based on the map for that match. really disincentivizes ratty arena gameplay which I think is good
This is not and has never been and never will be a battle royale, you "win" by extracting with more value than you went in with, whatever that means to you as a player.
tis a beautiful morning here at my house, might be a first ever ironmace patch without delay. i believe.
i suppose thats a fix but i still think that in several scenarios you get forced out of the circle and take extreme damage when the fight could have lasted a few more seconds/minutes
and in some maps you get locked into a draw because you physically cannot get to eachother without dying to the bees
u mean the combos that require a super telegraphed spell to land that can also be blocked
LK the circle never really bothers me and i play a lot on many different gear scores.
rarely it like ''wins a fight''
yeah I think making the circle more like "adaptive" to the map would help that downside. you're right sometimes you just get caught in an unlucky corner. maybe they could have the circle dmg ramp up in arena
"I know a lot of people wonder why we felt the need to create this map at all," FAXXXXX
if the class were op, people would still play it because it would be meta.
if your argument is that its only op if you can play it then really good players would excell at it and break the game (its not happening).
In most hr builds u are not oneshotting even if you land your full combo, because you have to aim for lower body (they can dodge the headshot on root).
Some of the classes can escape from root before u can followup like cleric or warlock.
Saying that class has the most potential damage therefore its op its like sayin ap irelia is op if you land your ult on 5 people. Not realistic
You can achieve way more damage, way easier as wizard
i also think the circle prevents some teams from just PvEing in a corner
they should prevent hoards and boss rooms from being on the edges of the map tho
No. Casting spell and hitting it takes like 2 buttons
remove druid
it's a crucial question for HR the developers need to answer. Do they want to enable that style of gameplay for HR, or not?
Free win... really? Barbar with Iron Will and Full speed build, Fighter, Cleric with big shield. Bard silent song, Ranger bow.
still gotta hit the block on the lightning/ice bolt
id say HR is the LAST mode id put it in personally..
since mobs are hard, sometimes its hard to move in the map
i would keep it s2r, add it to pve mode
also id add autoqueue into pve as a faustian... timmy hunting plain and simple, perfect for them to get better
"the Circle will be removed from High Roller in the future. However, we will look for ways to preserve the strengths mentioned above in a different form of design" fs
tru 🙂↕️
remove druid
anyone knows what is warlock exploitation strike?
no
keep druid
yes
penguin buf when?
game is great, druid w the recent nerfs is a good spot right now, sorc nerfs were needed and happened
no lmao
i didnt know warlocks could control death skulls until a few weeks ago either
It's Warlock demon form skill. You should read it on wiki.
pls no just remove from game
i havnt even seen a sorcerer in weeks 💀
NO
XXXDymSosal
d1 fighter
revert game to playtest 3
open ur eyes they are everywhere
(except HR trios)
to each class their own, some classes are better in some modes than other, eh
YES DRUID BAD
just add penguin potion so everyone can go penguin
classic druid baders think that playtest 3 balance would be good now
Update good? Looks like it
U PLAY RANGER GET OUTTA HERE BUD
maybe cuz au servers are more dead than mars but i used to be a sorc main and even i stopped bcs nerfs were too annoying to play around, i havnt seen a sorc since on sea or oce servers 🤷♂️
I PLAY MAGIC MAN
NO
the need to add back +3 wep damage gear pieces tho that was so peak
i knew u were playing somewhere weird. Oce. also you smell like a solo player?
W update, a step forward on the right 1000 mile road
REVERT GAME TO PLAY TEST 3 GOGOGO
"druid hater" holy cope lmfao
no friends bro 😔
also fym somewhere weird?
Woke up at the perfect time
you really did. Still no map selection ggs
remove druid NOW
#sdfs-kitchen read
i mean OCE is empty and by solo i just mean sorc arent really the best solo class. Many sorcs in S2R and normals z2heroing hoping to get that one shot one kill on that geared dude
you should def try to go on #lfg channel and go in a voip, its fun to s2r w randos in trios
so close to having none random hr maps, which would only add 4 queues. no one asked for selectable squire to riches mode lmao. maybe we wouldn’t have 24 queues if we didn’t have pve hr and squire to riches huh
circle has always been ass, why are we adding more rng to a game with rng loot already? If I get a gold key let me get the whole pile without eating all my damn meds
HOLY COPE 😂 🔥
Remove Buffboll
druid bad 👎🏿
@sly shard i hpe they add back infinite druid shapeshifting just for you. That was when druid was actually strong KEK
maybe you just bad and thats why you cope 😊
Remove kiteparasha
damn how far we've come from infinite instant shapeshift
please no men just remove from game gogogo
10min (at9:04)
i could honestly play sorc really well even in solos, not saying i'd win every fight but i could last more than 30 seconds wink, then they added nerfs too much made it too annoying to play so switched to warlock 🤷♂️
druid just bad not me
remove spellpredator warlock




Where is Sosik?

W wardens frfr
they are balancing the game around trios from squire to high gear right now so playing solo is kinda crazy in my book. if u play any other class than a real badass min max melee dude youre probably throwing (also you could kite all day, but who like that?)
naw they've started balancing for solos too, since like beginning of this year
Honestly I think they dropped the ball on druid, for a class where you can transform into 5 different animals it's quite uninspired. Each animal is basically one of the other classes but a little weaker, barring panther which is just rogue on meth
yea but its still not up to the point where s2r are ''pretty balanced'' imo
high gear is ''starting'' to be ''kinda'' balanced (but far from it)
they are gonna finish with trios and gear scaling first for sure
no men
see yall in the dongeon
"And someday, I really want us to explore space as well." brother
should add a perk to sorc if you playing solo/loading inso solo queues you get minor buffs :p
if you think about it, they tested the barb a lot until it was pretty good, then ajusted the fighter in consequence. LK they are moving smart
should add an option to not queue in with druids
HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIII PATCH DONE ON TIME
is the game saved or nah do we spam "fire sdf?"
when demigod reveal?
Let the records show!
first patch ever to come out on time, POG! bravo Ironmace
Ironmace Monkey Labs Patch Delivery System trials were a success
everyone react with heart no clowns

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it's kinda funny that the community of this game is like at least half the problem
druid is the other half
well we sure as hell would get alot further if the game develpers developed the game instead of pandering to every single player
at least? like 60% minimum lmao
Man I miss dark and darker. Any idea when they’re gonna make the game playable again?
Improved the drop rate in Squires to Riches to match that of Normal dungeons. this mean S2R now gonna have betterorworseloot?
Bravo!! good job to the whole team, great W patch notes, changes are smart and on time delivery is bliss for us!!!
when they revert to playtest 3
sorry
game is playable you sook
"improved"
soo its gonna be better
s2r loot = normal loot = HR PvE
go back to school fr
yeah
I wish that were true.
huge W
i thought s2r had better loot than normal? how can it be improved
no
s2r was worse than norms, now its the same
Warlock Blood Patch should get a Remake
normalsshould be for pvp wit hbiss blues and just take ablue if you win and S2Rhjavetobe the real lootfrom 0
make an option to not queue in with druids
Random map 🤮
random dungeon cinema
no druid lobbies❌❌❌
water map camping blue cinema
i understand the game is called DARK and DARKER but does it have to be so DARK?
so can we get more club nerfs, nobody wants to see that low iq shit
i can't blame them for a while devs reinforced it we would get weekly slop updates and drastic meta shifts per week
CLUB CLUB CLUB CLUB
yes pls 🙏
the patch was on time BLESS UP

chyunkus's input is the shining star of this general chat
my god why nerfing shields ? they already sucks
CLUB CLUB CLUB CLUB

still random HR maps games still dead

because since they fixed blocking turtling is really easy
this is definitely true no doubt, but the game has been looking better for months. they stopped doing the constant slop updates and have dropped three good patches in a row, but the complaints still never go down. no one really cares when positive changes happen in the game, they just want to complain
4k hours and ive watched sdf completely fuck the game with graysun
u would of hated being here a year ago when druid was actually op
ok as an impuslive adhd dumb dumb i do appreciate the new quest green icon cus i alwasy vendor that crap and forget about the quests
or dont bother even picking it up
is quarterstaff considered blunt?
W patch. Now nerf ranger action speed and sorc cast speed
Mostly about Random HR map
played since playtest 3, 7k hrs
Pretty sure ya
druid just bad
yeah i completely quit for 2 seasons and came back this season the patches are better balance is better gem socketing is awesome the modifiers feel nice really like it i remember the old modifiers and old gear no gem socketing couldn't get vigor or stats on rings couldn't get certain dmg mods on armorrr it was a mess but now the system feels nice i like how modifiers gems and gear feels in general
ty brother
Go to windows search and look for calibrate display. Turn native brightness to max
A patch that wasnt delayed by 4 hours? Am I seeing straight?
make s2r a real roguelite mood that keeps going till u enter hr lobbies! make it 10 maps in a row that fill up. it would be so fun
what crashes are they fixing in these pathes? i cant even launch game now without it crashing.
then idk how your getting smashed by druids still unless u play barb cuz that's like there last favorable match up
what happens to the people that died?
wdym, ud have to do like levels i suppose or id be dead lobbies. so have 1 starter level, then 0-5 u can enter after the starter one, just contineus maps that keep going
finallya quickfill on the treasuresiwas askingfor it 2 yearsago
they should just full remove squire to riches replace it with a ssf mode
I dont think that its they only want to complain its that IM lied about so much coming to the game and we just got tired of hearing it. Where is quiver?
I think its that players time was NOT being respected and they left because of it. Almost None of my friends who were all long time players even touch the game anymore.
I guess I won't able to see a 100 player vs 1 massive boss Mode in the future :v
Oh, that's splendid
👏 patch 💯
That's so good.
game improvement i love it thank u sdf now he just needs to market the game and we might be up next season
huge
DAMN
wow I had loot in the expressman before the patch, and after the patch it has dissappeared, amazing!!
and the Location quest?
Is high roller still random?
hehehe the wolf looks goofy with the hats i love it
just open the map brh
i mean no shit sherlock
tf you mean no shit?
dumb
why would it just dissapear?
it's been hrs ofc your shit is gone (i have no sympathy they gave 40min heads up on the patch)
I mean, the '!' will appear on the map?
can we please make gloves of utility look diff from leather gloves I've accidentally equipped them in squire gear more times than I'd care to admit
no lmao just open your eyes and use your legs
there are quite a few map tools online too
at this point just merge them together
@misty ridge I love you bro
Love you too
what if we could equip gloves and boots for each hand and foot so you could get 1.5 str and 1 will 1 dex and 5ms and 1.5 str
boing boing
great idea. Lets have people rely on 3rd party maps because they don't wanna put module names on map
Other player: "Afk? Free kill!" 
. . .
would be funny

I don't think Spiked Gauntlets would be very comfortable on the feet.
😞
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@vale oar Can you post the gif, "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen" by Palpatine from Star Wars
thanks for buff the range meta with this patch
The Club should get nerfed more..
How long until wipe? If anyone knows
onm y first chest i geta royal diamond s2r hell yeah
Lol grats on the 300 gold man
They changed some bosses patterns on HR. Just telling to not get you in surprise like myself