game-discussion

[floral pendant]

just read some of that and seeing the "no" to someone asking about the end wipe cosmetic items from the new bosses was hilarious, wish they stuck to that now market is screwed lol

[upbeat sleet]

can someone explain to me how the merge spell Icebound works? "gaining a 50% cooldown reduction bonus"
i cast it, i cancel it, all my spell need 10 additional seconds to recover
what?

[harsh bear]

Anyone else have graphics card crashes?

[upbeat sleet]

no

[spiral totem]

Hey, ur still here. How have the games gone?

[uneven basalt]

what the best skill to use with dual strike

[upbeat sleet]

really good
bonk wiz is super strong in squire royale it's crazy! i keep fireballing people so they run me down, which is when i get the stick out and just bonk them to death and they're like
"??"
i won two 2v1s with it
i also met the french guy that plays penguin only all the time and we queued together lmfao
we made it to the finals but i died to some guy chasing me right before it was over :c my poor loot

[brave jolt]

any point in doing alch quests past green meds? or more affinity will unlock blue meds from the merchant?

[spiral totem]

thats amazing! I'll have to try Bonk wiz out for my self! And the druid players are wild haha Good Luck Adventurer! Congrats on the 2V1 too! Took me a while to get my first.

[grave cave]

why are the lava slimes so toxic

[toxic halo]

anyone trade a better named or some gold for my illusory?

[meager hawk]

make kraken boss make kraken cracked in water bro trust

you go to water and kraken is cracking your ship

[scarlet tinsel]

Really like how my VOIP decides to just not work sometimes when I launch the game. Great job Paul and SDF and the rest of the IM team. Outstanding.

[sturdy coral]

lmao just toggle it once

[meager hawk]

you dare talking bad to paul almighty?

we no friends anymore bro we no friend

[scarlet tinsel]

This does not work. Have to close the game out a few times for it to work 🙂

[sturdy coral]

oh then try reinstalling. I did that recently and it helped a lot of little issues I had like the alt tab bug too

[upbeat sleet]

i like the critical feedback u're giving! i'm sure they can use that advice to work on it and make it better haha

[scarlet tinsel]

Ty, im essentially a professional bug reporter

plus I was complimenting the IM team

[clear berry]

just spent an hour trying to figure this bios crap out and all i wound up doing was somehow getting to a point where nothing on my desktop loaded. im just not doing hr i guess lmao, dont wanan brick my computer

[grand delta]

imma be real im looking at the market and i got no idea whats worth what like how many full bags is a single seal worth?

[deep heron]

why not? it would add something else barbs can do....hater

[pliant zinc]

bruh

[neat birch]

Hey guys, Im a new player that started playing a couple days ago. Game has been very fun but I have some questions.

Ive mostly been running a halberd fighter but also use a longsword sometimes. Mainly been playing the free pvp mode where you can only enter with blues.

1. What is a good setup (armours/boots etc) to compliment Halberd and Longsword. I find myself struggling in catching more mobile classes.

2. What stats should I prioritise/are valuable. I can increase my damage in so many different ways (armour pen, flat damage, headshot bonus dmg, %damage, more str etc) that Im left confused for which is the best. And are other perks like damage reduction etc on gems also valuable?

3. Im currently running Taunt and Second wind, are these good abilities or are there better choices?

4. What is a good source of guides/builds/tips. Any specific youtubers you guys recommend?

Sorry for the wall of text, its just very difficult to find clear and concise information about this game.

[spark helm]

Does noone play the water map anymore?

[clear pendant]

they should make it pve only

[spark helm]

Also @neat birch Most of what you asked is very subjective.

[regal veldt]

been away for awhile what classes are good rn

[spark helm]

When it first came out there were soo many people on it, just came back playing a bit and theres maybe 1 team per game.

[clear pendant]

game combat is not designed for water map

[spark helm]

Oh your one of those lol.

[clear pendant]

i mean, you are the one who plays water map

[spark helm]

I guarantee you main a range.

[clear pendant]

99.9% of players who want to pvp dont play water map

ranger is actually broken in water map wdym

[spark helm]

Not ranger, a ranged class, but I would disagree with that.

[clear pendant]

well if you play water map what can i say

think whatever you want

[spark helm]

Ik theres alot of haters on the water map (mostly sorcerors I'd bet) and I get it, the map doesn't favor you but some do enjoy it, but you can't enjoy what people aren't playing.

[clear pendant]

i respect all kind of enjoyment

but i think you water map players pretend to enjoy it

you lowk play it because its free loot and unbalanced combat

so its your safe space to abuse that

i would play sea of thieves its a game designed for water combat

[spark helm]

Lol, I don't play for loot only pvp, I run squire class 99% of the time so if there was an imbalance you could easily balance it back out, and yeah advocating for players to play a different game in a very niche/dying game is a great idea.

[clear pendant]

so in a dying game the best idea is make people play more maps so every map and lobby is almost empty?

[lunar flax]

pretty cool how anti cheat doesn't detect a fighter using longbow shooting straight arrows killing a penguin through slipstream out of render distance

[spark helm]

Aha, I agree with you, too many maps. So maybe lets keep the one thats different and get rid of some others that are nearly the same?

[clear pendant]

i would remove every map except goblin, ruins and crypts

[spark helm]

Yeah I know you would.

[clear pendant]

and if you dont do it at least bring back any system that guarantees full lobbies

but if im forced to play water map i quit

[obsidian zealot]

Is this game good yet?

[spark helm]

Range classes and rogue get infinite chances in these maps, it's try and if you start losing run and heal up, then try again, fail, run and heal up over and over until finally you get lucky once.

Atleast in the water map you don't have infinite space to run (And thats the problem for you guys) and if you miss literally everything you have to face the consequences of that.

[neat rapids]

Anyone here know why my virtual cursor is invisible on controller?

[clear pendant]

you are confirming what i thought / said

you play water map because you cant play the actual game

so thats your safe space

[spark helm]

You are confirming what I said more like dawg lol, I agree there is a combat imbalance but it's not in water map, if you can't make your move on a huge island that goes up vertically as well, your not so good at range as you believe, you just have as many chances as you want.

[potent moat]

does will increase healing?

[spark helm]

But have fun with the dying game by all means and continue pushing others out of it.

[clear pendant]

water map was a failure and nobody will play it

dont try it anymore...

maybe you will find some penguins

a very balanced form

[potent moat]

does magical power affect healing spells?

[spark helm]

I've ran plenty of matches and not seen one penguin, penguins are actually garbage at the water map but your not good enough to know that, your a one trick pony that needs infinite chances to get kills we all know it.

[clear pendant]

you complain about running

[lost mural]

Calm down ladies

[clear pendant]

how you kill a penguin in water?

[spark helm]

Easily.

[clear pendant]

mr squire water map player

you are a bit delusional

im not defending my point anymore, you won

[spark helm]

Except you have no argument against what i've said, I've named off plenty.

[meager chasm]

Where do i send clips of cheaters

[spark helm]

Penguins were maybe an issue when the map first released and quickly got nerfed, as well as magic missle.

Make doors take a lot longer to close and maybe i'll switch back maps.

[grand delta]

how many bags is a single seal worth in the market rn? these people are crazy with how fast they switch up

[sage kite]

Are they ever going to add the door key in fire deep?

[chrome ravine]

Can I drink the mysterious potion

[compact oracle]

The Dark Advisor quest from Tavern Master cant be completed as it requires an oudated map tile thats been removed from inferno (the ghost king room) Unless another tile has been rebranded Dark Ritual Room

Has anyone done it?

[worn jetty]

what drops mysterous potion?

[silent crater]

dreadspine

[worn jetty]

ty

[silent crater]

no problem

[meager chasm]

Where can I go to report a player?

[arctic schooner]

the memory integrity option in windows security quite literally does not show up how am i supposed to play high roller

[midnight bough]

Did the new quests go away?

[silent crater]

after the match or on ironmace site im pretty sure

[obtuse pumice]

did paul quit? why has halberd been beyond broken for 3 weeks straight but double axe was good for 1 week before nerfed to the ground ?

[compact oracle]

you gotta do something in bios for it to appear

[arctic schooner]

ughhh////....,.,..,,..,.,.,

[fleet wren]

Is additional armour rating or percentage physical damage reduction better?

[hollow elbow]

does impact resistance increase the enemies recovery time from a block

[normal wolf]

the AI must be fixed in relation to invisibility; if player is becoming invisible the skeleton (ie) is going back, but when invisibility ends he turns around and traces the player further, like he has eyes behind his back - not only skeletons behave this way, is just an example; because the target found in the code does not get erased, nor replaced with search for player in alert mode when player become invisible, it just stays on hold but is still ON

[arctic schooner]

The settings in the bios arent even showing up omfg

[clear tapir]

-300 -> -614.8%
-300 to -12 = 2% each, up to -38.8%
-12 to -4 = 1.5% each, up to -26.8%
-4 to 6 = 1.2% each, up to -14.8%
6 to 12 = 1.3% each, up to -7%
12 to 20 = 1.4% each, up to 4.2%
20 to 75 = 0.15% each, up to 12.45%
75 to 95 = 0.155% each, up to 15.55%
95 to 115 = 0.15% each, up to 18.55%
115 to 135 = 0.145% each, up to 21.45%
135 to 155 = 0.14% each, up to 24.25%
155 to 175 = 0.135% each, up to 26.95%
175 to 195 = 0.13% each, up to 29.55%
195 to 215 = 0.125% each, up to 32.05%
215 to 235 = 0.12% each, up to 34.45%
235 to 255 = 0.115% each, up to 36.75%
255 to 275 = 0.11% each, up to 38.95%
275 to 295 = 0.105% each, up to 41.05%
295 to 315 = 0.1% each, up to 43.05%
315 to 335 = 0.095% each, up to 44.95%
335 to 355 = 0.09% each, up to 46.75%
355 to 375 = 0.085% each, up to 48.45%
375 to 395 = 0.08% each, up to 50.05%
395 to 415 = 0.075% each, up to 51.55%
415 to 435 = 0.07% each, up to 52.95%
435 to 455 = 0.065% each, up to 54.25%
455 to 475 = 0.06% each, up to 55.45%
475 to 495 = 0.055% each, up to 56.55%
495 to 600 = 0.05% each, up to 61.8%

[versed oracle]

where can i find dreadspines at

[spark helm]

Is this why I keep seeing others run Halberd?

[versed oracle]

it just got nerfed but not enough

[spice stratus]

actual, is there now only one module in crypts that can spawn it? and that module doesnt even have a garantee that its in the map....

[versed oracle]

bruh which one is it

what does it look like

[spice stratus]

square room, circle with an X

it has a rez and a wraith in it

[brisk mason]

there is 3 modules and 1 of them has a 50 50 spawn

[hollow elbow]

it seems cliche, but do people notice the largest number of players who ignore everything, including their teammates, to get into the middle of fighting, to be barbs??

for PUG squire to riches at least

[normal wolf]

in order to enjoy the game don't put your ambition into it, this way you won't play only one class and just follow the meta;

[grand snow]

anyone know what hr troll pelt drop rate is? and if luck influences it?

[noble agate]

do any of yall know if you get your stuff back in pve when you die? cause my friend died with viola to litch lol

[versed oracle]

how do you whisper to ppl

[dusk meteor]

When can we craft spectral blade?

[pseudo blaze]

is a 17.1% demon damage reduction unique halberd any good?

to me it seems useless but im curious if people want it for fighting bosses

i see its expensive on market

[nova quest]

Pretty good for overseer

[sage kite]

like 20% and yes luck helps

[pseudo blaze]

I think I just got killed by a cheater

I killed banshee then opened the door to go to the loot room and a guy was already there

[winged echo]

is the invisible timer on merchants, on a global timer for everyone? or its random?

[pseudo blaze]

is there access to it from spectral knight?

[grand snow]

tyty

[tame pebble]

arena late ?

[lost mural]

Yes because bnn

[tame pebble]

-.-

yes because stolen game xd

since pt3 game downhill only

ofc they late again

[marble yoke]

It was already proven the game wasn't stolen or it wouldn't exist. Only certain components were similar.

[mental garden]

Is everyone else just getting ran down in every lobby by heavy armored fighters who have absolutely no movespeed penalty whatsoever

[slow totem]

`

[devout fable]

how do you get artifacts in gc now? is it on the pedastal? stash? or from killing cave troll/cyclops

[nocturne fiber]

if i hit somone with curse of pain can i also hit them with curse of weakness and they both be active?

[kind shoal]

@nocturne fiberyes

fun fact if you have 2 warlocks you can double power of sac yourself

[lethal badger]

100k, now it’s 200k!

[lethal badger]

The mystical gem room hoard and the hoard in between the two bosses

[lethal badger]

Yes

[kind shoal]

where is the dark ritual room

[sage kite]

your moms house

[upper jungle]

Did we just really only get leathersmith for crafting unlock quest this week 😢 ?

[stone panther]

no we did not, I got new quests on like 5-6 of them. Maybe that glitch of quests randomly disapearing still exists. Look again in like 30 min

[upper jungle]

Aaah, okay, thanks, will check again in a few then ^^

[low tendon]

where dreadspines at the moment?

i know of the one spawn in crypts but idk after that

[upper jungle]

2 in crypts

[low tendon]

what modules are they?

[soft plinth]

ye i believe they are working just like the bosses in gobbo caves, dual boss room

[versed oracle]

bro where is cave tombs on goblin caves

[peak dagger]

my game isnt showing up on steam help?

[upper jungle]

The one called sanctum I think? The room with 4 bridge and round middle with one chest on top, a raise shrine down the stairs, a wrait patrolling the bottom and then dreadspin is ubehind the double doors.

The other location is the one with double stairs going down, statu in the middle and two side room.

[surreal rapids]

i quit this game a couple years ago because i got sick of seeing the same W classes just constantly dominate solos and nothing has changed, its even worse. the balancing in this game is atrocious - i just dont get it

[radiant mortar]

they changed armor rating curve not long ago right ? where can i see the new armor scaling ?

[surreal rapids]

ive been run down by a barbarian in every single solo HR game ive played, and if it isn't them it's been a warlock taking half my health with 1 curse not counting the dot or 1 shotting me with BOC, or your typical fighter just using sprint. They all have 20k+ kits. I literally only see barbs, fighters, warlocks and the occasional rogue. It's wild.

[abstract basin]

is there any way to buy accounts for seasonal skins??

[pseudo blaze]

@schodden yo if you’re in here lemme buy my warlock kits back off you lol

[nocturne fiber]

thanks

[torn mantle]

did they roll back the mysterious potion quest?

[stone panther]

no. They just cannot code quests so we have had the same issue for a month where quests randomly disappear because of some server desync.
try again in like 30 minutes

[torn mantle]

@stone panther ty

[shy zenith]

Does anyone know the location of the new dark ritual room or is that quest bugged

[sage kite]

Someone reported my joke XD

[tight shard]

what does s2r stand for?

[low tendon]

squires to riches

old name for squire royale

[stone panther]

A B C are the 3 different bosses in crypt. (well, their rooms, even though its technically the same room)
Pretty sure C is warlord.
I have no idea

[shy zenith]

Nah they changed it some time back and dark ritual room was inferno only before the new update

Now since Ghost King is gone that module is as well

The one in crypts is just called ritual room and that's it. I also tried going in the room each time it was a different boss just in case they changed it back.

[stone panther]

No idea then, but it would be very on point for them to leave untested dead quests in

[shy zenith]

I'm honestly not surpried it's IM

[winged grotto]

is there a known loot pool for the pve key piles

[mellow igloo]

game has been halted to protect against some shit just got me killed im fuming

[vocal pivot]

does anyone know how to unlock hr i am on the page showing me how to get the setting but is it safe to follow?

[radiant urchin]

yes, tpm 2.0 and secure boot has to be enabled as well which is in your bios and there is another setting in your security settings that has to be turned on. most games are making that change to help combat cheaters.

[vocal pivot]

ok i just dont know much about computers so i was a little nervous about i

[radiant urchin]

all good, a lot of people dont know about it, ignorance of something isnt stupidity and there is no such thing as a stupid question never hesitate to ask something you dont know.

[dusk hatch]

Is arena found/crafted or whatever you buy

[random niche]

anything

[fair nymph]

Has anyone else seen a named living armor that drops a unique shield after you defeat it? I wasn't even on high-roller and it was way tougher than normal ones.

[dreamy beacon]

yeah, his name starts with B, got two of the shields in norms and PvE randomly in the same day

[fervent wigeon]

Anyone know what Stag crowns worrth?

[fair nymph]

I've been grinding them ever since I saw him, but I haven't found it since and I didn't see anything on the wiki about it

[dreamy beacon]

wiki is outdated as, but keep grinding, hes wearing black armour so just pop your head in and see then move on if no black armour. I am trying to find the module name atm

[fair nymph]

Will do. Thanks. Was worried it was some fever dream since I found it while I was super sick lmao

[dreamy beacon]

middle column second row down i think, the one with the tables in the middle boxed area and skeletons around the outside with a few skele archers in the middle too

at least thats where i found him twice

[fair nymph]

Oh yo it is on the wiki. It's called a Grottrox. Thought the name started with a D.

[dreamy beacon]

yeah dat the boii

[muted verge]

So all day today for the first I'm getting massive frame drops withing the first few mins of the match every single game. Anyone else start getting that today?

[stone panther]

been getting those for a week since last patch

[fair nymph]

I forgot the exact spot I found him at, but it was by a grassy area next to a smith's forge. Has a couple giant bats above it, and I think a wisp

[vast coral]

Theres actually severals mobs that have an "unique" version, they all drops what IM called "minor artifacts".
On what i know hou have : ice spider, mimic, skeleton guardman, slime, wolf, living armor. (I might forgot one or two)

[fair nymph]

I did see the slime one while looking at names on the wiki. It's called an Ozzeling. I also saw one for the mimic. Super excited to see cool secret enemies like this

[jovial viper]

theyre so rare people have seen more artifacts/chests in their lives than these mobs

players that run hr that is

[hard sierra]

is mini wheel the only place to find dreadspine?

[vast coral]

Frost imp also have a unique mob

[jovial viper]

also sanctum

[hard sierra]

ty

[vast coral]

I have seen them many times now, not so rare when you know how they look. I mean still rare but i kill around 4/5 per wjpe

[uneven basalt]

does BOC scale with add mag

[stone panther]

I see them about as often on PvE as I do on HR.
Which is not often at all, but I think I saw 3-4 of them on PvE and 3 on HR, just this season. Don't think the mode matters all that much. Also seen one on s2r

[jovial viper]

no like in this sentence i meant that people that dont run hr wont see artis so theyll see these mobs more than 0 of the artis they loot

miswording

but yea i guess if you are actively looking for them then youll find more

[vast coral]

No i comfirm theres no difference between any mode

[coarse temple]

whats the point of getting the goldsmith maxed out beyond grimmies

[jovial viper]

+3 additional jewelerly

[coarse temple]

legendary jewelry?

[stone panther]

Don't need it maxed out for grimmies. Last week got you enough affinity for those (and legendary rings).
This week gets you up to legendary pendants and unique rings

[dense goblet]

I just came back after being gone for a year. my wizard feels real bad, is bonk the only viable build in solo?

[coarse temple]

appreciate the reply, bro jus took my gems for nun in return

[stone panther]

check now again, he refreshes twice an hour

[coarse temple]

a wise man once said the team with a wiz is the one that comes out on top

[coarse temple]

what changes?

[stone panther]

you said he took your gems for nothing in return, he does. He offers uniques if you finished him today. But he only updates twice an hour

[coarse temple]

i got to the quest wit the obsidion ingot

stopped there

ig ill finish it

[coarse temple]

just finished the quest no uniques do i gotta wait

[stone panther]

You for real bruh?

[coarse temple]

ya

[stone panther]

how much beer you had?

[coarse temple]

sorry im slow

[stone panther]

I wrote he only updates his stuff twice an hour, twice.

[coarse temple]

yea i understood that part but i thought since finishing it i would get items before it refreshes again

guess i gotta wait

[stone panther]

every 30 minutes, at :00 and :30, so you gotta wait 18 minutes

[coarse temple]

ty mb

[upper jungle]

Still waiting for the new quest to pop up, I had one at some point, but now its gone =V

[hard sierra]

restart your game

that happend to me last week, its really odd

but close the game fully and open again

[upper jungle]

I restarted my game and even my pc :')

[hard sierra]

:( sadge

[upper jungle]

I just have the leathersith quests

[hard sierra]

yeah theres squire and tavern

as well i beleive

[upper jungle]

rip, no weaponsmith or tailor?

[hard sierra]

dont think so

[stone panther]

wait about half an hour, it's been broken all season. Quests randomly dissapear and come back in like 20-30minutes

[hard sierra]

im in dung rn tho so idk

[hard sierra]

this too

on the topic of leathersmith quests; anyone got good ideas for getting warlord lol

the 1 in 3 a match is wild

[upper jungle]

Rip, thought we were getting weapon crafting this week, sadge

[stone panther]

1 in 3 and competing with 10.000 others trying to kill him because everyone got the quest at the same time. AiNt It FuN

[hard sierra]

slightly worse than deadspine tbh

[quasi grail]

what is the damage bonus for a headshot

is it 150%?

or 140%

[hard sierra]

175 iirc?

i could be wrong

[quasi grail]

no way

too high

[hard sierra]

its fluxuated abit over the past 5 seasons

[quasi grail]

but torso is flat 10-0%

100

limbs are 70%

[stone panther]

It should have refreshed now 🔥

[hard sierra]

its still jarring that they release tuesdays now

[stone panther]

Considering their time zone, It is Monday for weekly and mid-week (Wednesday) for regular quests. Make more sense than the weird schedule they had before imo

[ember magnet]

they banned overdraw from HR i think

im pissed just starting playing this ranger and its fun

[harsh maple]

anyone know where the new dark ritual locaiton is? Isn't in the boss room

[gritty sorrel]

Oh #📢announcements that explains a lot about a few matches yesterday

[pine wyvern]

yo i just got scammed

i got it on recording he somehow had a sterling blade look like a fulgor

how do i report htis shi

[lavish maple]

BANNED OVER DRAW ON WATER MAP

[stone panther]

oh, no ping. lmao.

Some stupid streamer circkle jerk is happening, LETS PING THE ENTIRE SERVER
game breaking bug found, lets silently post something about it

gg IM

[harsh maple]

nah you fell for the oldest trick in the book, fulgor gone lol

[young vessel]

ur just cooked brotha be more careful

[gritty sorrel]

I mean if its being handled it doesnt really matter

[pine wyvern]

wym i have the vid when i put my cursor on it it said that it was a fulgor

[gritty sorrel]

They prolly swapped it, could ya send me the vid?

[young vessel]

send me the video as well

[stone panther]

would still be nice to be informed about such things. They send out notifications for just about anything, but repeatedly do not for things like this

[gritty sorrel]

I suppose

[young vessel]

I've never had that happen, they just cancel and retrade with a legendary or other rarity of the same item

[pine wyvern]

nvm i trolled lmao

gg

[gritty sorrel]

?-

[young vessel]

it happens lol you will prolly double check now

[gritty sorrel]

My goal for the entire season is to get 1 artifact, and finish religion

[hard sierra]

definitely the most artifact proliferated wipe already

so if you anna buy one, its a measy 5k for a famine or smth

but farming them isn't to hard either, just takes some dedication

[rugged niche]

no one is actually paying 20k gold for a mysterious potion right?

[gritty sorrel]

Cheapest is stinky at 10k

[hard sierra]

dryads wrath is 8k on market

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah I know, Ive been hitting pile with one of my friends and practicing Stingray but I just cant do it

[gritty sorrel]

Huuuuh??????????????????

[hard sierra]

ye i wanna get good at ray

yeah ppl are selling on market

straight gold

[stone panther]

last season people where paying that and needed 5 of them, so not too bad.
just wait until you figure out you need 10x 80k seal

[hard sierra]

still dont get ppl going nuts for seals

but im not a cosmetic guy so /shrug

[stone panther]

fomo

[hard sierra]

making a commodity out of pure fomo is such a stupid thing for the economy

[stone panther]

same reason they are doing the delayed quest drops, it helps keep the playercount pumped.
I hate it, but it is working to fudge the numbers for them

[hard sierra]

eh te quest drops i dont mind to much

the pacing could be debatable

but the premise is pretty valid

[gritty sorrel]

I think they should drop one new quest every day

[stone panther]

releasing 1 million gold grinds 3 weeks before wipe is just diabolical. Only reason people are now preparing again in advance is data miners

[hard sierra]

oh, that? valid

i wasnt here end of last wipe

the last one that did it hard core was

[stone panther]

Last wipe it was 10x tear of volcano, it dropped like 3 weeks before wipe. Price was around 15k in first month and 100k by the time the quest dropped.

each

also.. yeh, stingray before that selling for like 5 db's

[hard sierra]

stingray egg, but again its just cosmetic fomo

so its let eh.

[misty vessel]

ppl keep trying to trade me their tears of the volcano like bro i do not want ts for my catice

[stone panther]

tears are not used this season, completely useless. Bunch of scammers those guys, lol

[gritty sorrel]

Trophies

But you dont really sell or buy those

[feral karma]

It's not really Fomo all the quests cosmetics arrive on the store, the only one that hasn't yet is the Stingray egg Torch (Twister Cinder Torch). It was suppose to be added to the shop this season, but it hasn't yet.

[stone panther]

self found, sure. But not trading for them. Exactly, that's just people paying on outdated info

[misty vessel]

itll be seal of dominion probably and thats why theyre so expensive i suppose tbh its just like buying a gold coin bag if u have 8k its js liquidating assets

[granite charm]

Hey anyone have any tips for killing the frost demon if you're not cheesing it behind cover or on stairs? it seems I still get hit trying to duck the projectiles and trying to block them with a buckler shield it will sometimes go through and damage me?

[hard sierra]

even worse then

[gritty sorrel]

If I get a tear or egg or seal its going in my stash and staying there as a trophy

Same as I pulled a bag the other day. That's mine im not selling that shi

[feral karma]

I agree, cosmetic quests shouldn't be so hard that players don't engage with it and just use actual cash.

[hard sierra]

ppl are dumb - like sure it is smarter to get it the F2P way; but like; its a cosmetic, I have like 5 torches free; i have 10+ races from demi'ing every wipe, etcetcetc

[misty vessel]

if u js play market after getting a bag u can lowkey js trade up if its a full bag

[hard sierra]

if you're that completitionistic, sure fine, have problems with the time commitment, but its just a skin

[stone panther]

crouch and block when he throws them, angling slightly up. And keep running clockwise around him between attacks. But when he does his charging voodoo, those will still hit. Just back of a little bit while still blocking or outtank them

[hard sierra]

its not important imo; and not worth upending the economy for it

[gritty sorrel]

My bag, I pulled it, I earned it. Shoo!

[misty vessel]

i bought early access in like 2023 and thats all the money theyll squeeze from me

[hard sierra]

i wouldnt say they'll squeeze anything else from me, but im not a skin buyer, i love the game ever since playtest 3

[misty vessel]

i made a empty bag into 2 empty bags just play market....

[gritty sorrel]

I did buy a one at the start of the market so I could try n use that to trade up

[granite charm]

i'm doing this and looking slightly up but it seems i'm still getting hit through the shield on occasion? If i'm moving or standing still it seems to happen either way

[hard sierra]

and personally i dont mind if cosmetic quests are easy or hard; its more that human minds are dumb lmao

[misty vessel]

bro i kept trying to get my friends on for the playtests but they hated it bc theyd just kill eachother 😭

[feral karma]

Eh, they are cool.

[gritty sorrel]

Its a trophy, my last season goal was to earn a bag, by either crafting it from killing troll or pulling it from pile. Now I got it

[feral karma]

The Twister Cinder Torch is one of the cooler looking torches.

[misty vessel]

tuff af

[stone panther]

it's not a 100% block, like 80%. But usually I can kill him quick enough before he completely gets me. If you want full block, use a regular shield, not a buckler

[hard sierra]

they are, fr fr; i'm more saying the level of economy/social warping these items are cuasing is kind of dumb

[gritty sorrel]

How does trading up even work? Since I have an extra bag, why'd someone pay more than its worth?

[hard sierra]

when we had keys, and even now chests for example - they have base, built in value; not "vibe" value

[hard sierra]

are you talking about people doing the trade up challenge thing, or are you talking about making a % profit on items?

[gritty sorrel]

Profit

[feral karma]

Eh the item needed for the cosmetic has the built in value unlike anything else, when you are an hour away from wipe a named, or a key is meaningless compared to an item you can trade in for a cosmetic.

[misty vessel]

so u put gold in the bag thats a liquidated 10k ish now u go trade them for 2 low grade artis then u go trade those 2 low grade for 2 empty bag it just takes a min to find desperate people it also helps if u tell them "Be real this is the best your getting" as alot of people have weak wills in the trading post

[feral karma]

It's normal, and unless they stop making these quests this way it will always be like this.

[gritty sorrel]

Rn how ive been making money is farming FB coins, buying rings with em when theres good ones and selling those

[gritty sorrel]

Ahaaaaa

I could try

[hard sierra]

simply; say this morning a gold bag is 10k, playercounts low or something; or kjust its gone down some; you buy it, then say on friday or next week, or during the weekend [some other time in the future] you the average price went up and you check and notice; then you sell it for that price; 11-12k, or more etc

[gritty sorrel]

And that'd complete my season goal too

[misty vessel]

cut the middleman and make the rings urself i pull 5k an hour from this js from selling them slightly lower

the ingredients are cheaper than what u make the rings with im putting u all on game i play tf outta the market

[gritty sorrel]

I can rn craft epic rings

[warm parcel]

anyone else keep getting abnormal game termination crap? 5 in the last hour all of a sudden but otherwise been fine all day

[misty vessel]

stick with blue theyre more cost efficent

[gritty sorrel]

Aight

[stone panther]

Also, some people have no gold storage, so while they cant sell their low tier arti for 10k due to lack of storage, they might take a 1<>1 bag swap for it. Same with higher end stuff. People willing to take a bit of a lowball to avoid having to stash 90k in coins

[hard sierra]

it has built in value from a player perspective yes; but not a game perspective

[gritty sorrel]

So just craft a million ox pendants and sell those?

[hard sierra]

and thats a big dycotomy imo

[misty vessel]

rings of courage sell the best pendants are more costly and dont sell for as much

[hard sierra]

peace necks are kinda nutty at legendary

[gritty sorrel]

Rings of Courage ok

[misty vessel]

if u wish to get early game gold really quick just do ring method, mid game do trading

[hard sierra]

generally if you're looking at buying mats and then turning a profit on the overall end-product; just look at mat pricing then do the numbers to find the most "effecient" thing

[noble verge]

Ranger is literally unplayable without overdraw one shots.

[gritty sorrel]

Ill try

[misty vessel]

dual it and youll have 50k in a couple days

[hard sierra]

go watch some bincent or touchgrass lol

[noble verge]

[feral karma]

Well it is from a game perspective. You can't take anything to the next wipe but your cosmetics, so that's what gives the items their value.

[stone panther]

Also pay attention to the various time zones, prices wave like 3 times a day. With pretty high differences depending on zones going to bed

[gritty sorrel]

Last wipe I had like 30k at best, cuz FB coins were like 900 a pop and the free bag from huntress was like 20k

[hard sierra]

i would agree if it was a race; but usually its a torch or a different skin imo thats tied to a item; idk what tears where tied to, so i may be wrong

my pooint isn't that this thing doesnt have value; or shoudn't its that its really counter a game economy to have something randomly have so much value out of fomo and vibes rather than anytihng else; whether or not the fomo/vibes is justified or not

[stone panther]

Tears was a slav squat sit down emote

[feral karma]

Tears were a resting emote that makes your character squat down.

[misty vessel]

i alr did it all last wipe i used chatgpt and such tools to scoure market for me and things like that
copper 700ish
cobalt 300ish
arcane 600
-1915 ish with listing fees

390 x 10
1985 profit is the lowest youll make if you dont get any good rolls to sell for higher you can repeat this indefintley as ring prices will only go higher through the wipe and thats not accounting for any snipes you can find on ingredients or if you get good rolls

[proper pollen]

is US East or West more active typically?

[hard sierra]

both are pretty active generally before late late night

[gritty sorrel]

Last wipe prices were crazy though

[misty vessel]

ye ik i was selling them for 500 and making around 3k profit

[gritty sorrel]

Well Ill try

[hard sierra]

unless you're looking to build god kits every second i dont feel like you even need that much money

but i also only play solos so /shrug

[proper pollen]

is there server maint tonight?

[gritty sorrel]

Religion is 200k and I want to play atleast one game in superbis

[misty vessel]

i accidentally drove the price of green rings down alot bc id sell them for like 190 or smthing instead of doing the smart thing by listing them by 10 gold lower i lowered them by 100 since it was cheap ingredients so for like a week all the green rings were super not profitable for me

[hard sierra]

oh yeah religion is

cray

[gritty sorrel]

I made some money last wipe when they changed green crafts lol

It was worth it to buy essence, make rings and sell em

[misty vessel]

i was just coming back i was learning the market and now im adept in it i come to spread the wealth

[hard sierra]

my personal rule of thumb is ~15g to 15% less then lowest price

if i wanna quicksell

its still gonna get me a quicksell but im not gonna lose as big a cut

[gritty sorrel]

Tis sounds a lot like a ponzi scheme, oh yea invest here and you'll be rich lol

[hard sierra]

it kinda is? the market is litearlly stocks and economic theory but, real time in a small scale

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah

[hard sierra]

the biggest thing is you have agency in which sector you wanna ply in

[gritty sorrel]

I wonder if I could start a legit ponzi scheme in the trading post

[hard sierra]

do you wanna play in the deep end? artifacts, seals? etc

wanna mid tier where stuff is 10kish

or high low end where its the thousands and hundreds

[misty vessel]

so cool tip right here the market lists the older things first so if somethings worth 7k but was listed a 3 minutes ago and u list it for 8.3k and theres a bunch others listed for 8.3k the longer it sits the more youll have a chance on it getting bought

[hard sierra]

or just niches like mats or potions

[gritty sorrel]

oh yea is it better to sell flat flowers or pots?

I got a bunch of phantoms

[misty vessel]

i just try to break their wills tbh im rlly evil in there "This is the best your getting you've been here for thirty minutes give up."

[hard sierra]

just do the numbers tbh

thers usually a small margin or profit iirc

[gritty sorrel]

LOL

[hard sierra]

but not by much

[misty vessel]

it works sometimes ngl

[gritty sorrel]

I mightve talked with you last wipe then

[misty vessel]

i wasnt in trading last wipe i was still a ring merchant

[gritty sorrel]

I went to chek out the trading post n someone immidiatly traded n messaged "Tis the best deal you'll get cmoon." meanwhile me with 2k to my name and being offered a Bloodthirst

[misty vessel]

i wasnt adept enough to even touch trading post but now im finding out how lucrative it is and telling people about the ring method

everyone must have gold for bis sets so when i come with 60 will on sorc i can get free bis

or when i goto normal solos sometimes i actually get the rings i made back like they have my name and everything on them its hilarious

[gritty sorrel]

lmfao

"Return to sender"

[misty vessel]

flood the market enough times its bound to happen

my friend got to 13k gold in like 2-3 hours ish from rings after i told him how to do it and he started with only ingredients i sold him for 1 gold

• a pouch of 500 to cover listing fees

[gritty sorrel]

neat

Yeah I can see that happening, cuz some people will just straight up buy premade rings even if they know that ingridients are cheaper cuz lazy

[misty vessel]

ye u can make 10 for around 1.7k its absurd

if i was smarter i would have broken the economy because of how easy it is to play alas im still a dunce in this regard with only base money making methods

other good ways is miniboss drops like lucky cocatrice feather and stuff like that since those go for 2k and the cocatrice is easy its a good gold booster if u want extra value in ur runs

[gritty sorrel]

I rly wanna run luck build and run around doing minibosses for feathers and rings and such

Buuut the issue is other players

Im not good enough to beat anyone as a bard, not to talk about in luck gear

[misty vessel]

if ur running a luck build theres a stash pile in maelstrom that u dont need a key for

[gritty sorrel]

There's multiple actually

I played a lot of maelstorm last season

Shame theres only 1 pile which can drop artis

[misty vessel]

ye some dude leaked all the spots on youtube

[gritty sorrel]

I know of like 3

[stone panther]

• Around hole
• Triple pile
• Horse shoe
• Skull cave

all piles without any key or boss

[gritty sorrel]

2 in the mid 1 under the boat

[misty vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxyN0Z1O2rY&t=157s

ah no embed perms amazing

but this video has the best loot run ive done so far i always come out with 5-10k depending on the pulls

but i have a max luck set

so its lowk comp

[stone panther]

He has all the piles, still missing 3-4 gold chest spots in there tho. Under bladehand is a gold chest, also south-west is a sunken ship with another couple gold chests

[misty vessel]

ehhh gold chests aint shi id rather have a marvelous

[gritty sorrel]

High chance for key

[misty vessel]

oh shi spectral coinbags are back in shop

better stock while theyre cheap

[stone panther]

how much are they?

[misty vessel]

24k

theyll go up a ton soon i feel

[stone panther]

lol, nvm then. 24k to store 5k is still insane. Better of storing gold in seals

[gritty sorrel]

Aw man

[misty vessel]

ima buy some and sit on them till mid wipe

[gritty sorrel]

I cant afford one

Well maeby if I make moners from the bag-arti-2bags or rings fast enough

[misty vessel]

its not abt the 24k to fit 5k its the fact u can store 29k in 4 slots because the asset itself is worth 24k its a liquid asset

not to mention the 5k u put in it that is a huge offer to some people

[stone panther]

yeh, but come monday the chests will start to drop from the weekly coins and chest prices will go down. Only reason spec bags went 80k last season was the dupe. I dont think they will climb above 30k.

if you want to invest in assets you are better of with the 1x2 slots Seals

[misty vessel]

in any case you can just trade it for a mid tier arti and go trade that for upgrades

people be in the trading post with some crazy uniques i cant lie

[gritty sorrel]

+6 add wep dagger would prolly be pretty expensive

[misty vessel]

they got absolutely nuts pendants and rings

[gritty sorrel]

Can you craft unique pendants or rings?

Also unique gems do anything I got 2 unique diamonds

[misty vessel]

i believe and u slot them on unique things i suppose i havent gotten to that point yet

[gritty sorrel]

You cant gem uniques

[misty vessel]

i dont think it would be that profitable to upgrade him to max just for unique

thing of the ingredient cost

[drifting raptor]

buff longsword riposte and change its m1 damage there is 0 incentive to parry and riposte anymore, m1 does more damage

also make void blade epic again for arena melee sorc and warlock cause its thematic and cool

[gritty sorrel]

I dont think you've been hit with a longsword parry

[drifting raptor]

brother it does 15 more damage

[misty vessel]

ya last wipe it was walk around ur opponent and u land a parry if they sneeze now its better and the fighter with a parry pfp complains bro

[gritty sorrel]

Yea that 15 to the head twice is a LOT

[drifting raptor]

holding m1 for the 3 but combo is 34 more damage than a riposte

[misty vessel]

i land my parries get gud

[tropic brook]

wtf is the point of hide if mobs can still swing when im inviz

[misty vessel]

dont??? invis next to mobs??

[drifting raptor]

yeah but holding m1 to the head with a poke which is a guaurtneed headshot vs a 50/50 slash

if your using riposte on longsword right now your trolling

[gritty sorrel]

Hide before they swing so they deaggro

[drifting raptor]

it’s just halberd v2

hold m1 and win

[misty vessel]

play meta go spear or halberd twin ✌️

[tropic brook]

im assuming you dont actually play typical answer from a pve player

[gritty sorrel]

Tis guy has to be trolling

Longsword parry is fine

[drifting raptor]

not at all man

there is no reason to use longsword riposte

[misty vessel]

i have over 1k kills bro dont invis next to mobs sub level 20 rogue

[drifting raptor]

you do LESS damage than just holding m1

bring riposte back to 1.5

1.35 is pointless

[tropic brook]

nice "bro" play landmine on every class you'll get 1000 kills

[drifting raptor]

make the m1 combo do less damage and make riposte do more

there zero reward for skillful play

[gritty sorrel]

What you want a parry to be oneshot? The parry is fine it hurts a lot and it hits so fast

[misty vessel]

i play every class and i bum rush middle of forgotten castle get gud and dont invis next to mobs

[drifting raptor]

my point here is that riposte means you will do less damage than holding m1

[gritty sorrel]

And longsword parry is very chonky

[drifting raptor]

so make it balanced where riposte is rewarding instead of just holding w and m1 to win

[tropic brook]

w thx bro maybe you'll landmine me

[drifting raptor]

yeah it’s good what i’m trying to describe is that there’s no point using that when the m1 has better damage in the same amount of time

[gritty sorrel]

Because holding m2 is so much more skilled. Longsword parry is perfectly fine it deals well enough damage

[drifting raptor]

it’s actual garbage

timmy identified

also parry should be a short window

[gritty sorrel]

Okay that I agree with

[drifting raptor]

you shouldn’t be able to hold block

it should be like a second or two window

[gritty sorrel]

Would be cool to hit like a proper parry instead of block riposte

[drifting raptor]

sitting there holding your sword infront of your face is not skillful or fun it’s dumb

[misty vessel]

should be like sekiro i want to spam f and have parry trades

but cd if whiffed parry

[drifting raptor]

that’s a good idea

[misty vessel]

no cd if succesful parry

ah a tournament ill never take place in

does anyone watch those?

[drifting raptor]

mostly my point is that longsword used to be fun and engaging now to win i just hold mouse one and walk into people because on le handed weapons are booty

[simple kettle]

anyone else got disappearing quests lol

[scarlet blade]

Where is the dark ritual room?

[silver bloom]

you don't speak for everyone, i enjoy holding my shield/weapon and feeling like a hoplite, not everything in a game needs to have immense skill expression

[drifting raptor]

it’s the old inferno boss room it no longer exists

[misty vessel]

cutlass or rapier slayer is still fun af with repostes

[drifting raptor]

you cannot do the dark ritual room quest right now, room is no longer in the game

classic ironmace W

[gritty sorrel]

Double Greatshield Shieldslam is funny w a friend

The Roman Legion

[drifting raptor]

ritual room is the crypts boss room

[scarlet blade]

ty

[silver bloom]

that sounds very funny yeah

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah

[misty vessel]

my hb got slimed by a pavise while a wizard got him 😔

[gritty sorrel]

Its a very bad build, but if you manage to push someone to a corner with no way to escape its funny af

Takes literal ages to kill anyone but its funny

[drifting raptor]

i never said i do man , i just said longsword used to
be a fun dynamic weapon that rewarded parry and riposting and now it’s just another w key halberd

[karmic copper]

what do the squire quests even give you beyond the first 3 making items common quality?

[drifting raptor]

they don’t do that

[misty vessel]

next topic, HALBERD 3RD SWING RANGE

this shit is map wide!

[drifting raptor]

the merchant tied to that armor items materiel type gives you white gear

[karmic copper]

what does squire do then lol

[drifting raptor]

so say you have grey quality bows. getting yours woodsman rep up gives you white quality

[misty vessel]

base gear

[drifting raptor]

xp

[drifting raptor]

no it doesn’t

[karmic copper]

wew that's useless

[drifting raptor]

squire quests and squire affinity don’t affect the gear he gives out

[misty vessel]

oh like squire quest i though he was talking about what it does 😭

[drifting raptor]

i assume they’re gonna give him seasonal quests eventually?

otherwise his quests are just quick xp at start of wipe to get to lvl 15

[misty vessel]

bro they made the ap gain from kills 100 to 15 and kill assists are worth the same as kills my main level method is goneee

[gritty flume]

Only one room in crypts has dreadspine now???

[drifting raptor]

ap from kill depends on the rank of the person you killed

[willow sleet]

anyone know what dark ritual room is now???

[drifting raptor]

no longer in the game, bugged quest

it’s the old inferno boss room before demon overseer

[willow sleet]

w ironmace

[misty vessel]

ye and in normals its squire timothy trying to bum rush me for my kit so im forced to high roller where its sweaty eu people in my american servers

[drifting raptor]

wym sweaty eu ppl

i play eu it’s fine

[misty vessel]

theyre sweaty bro...

play a us west lobby compared to an eu lobby

[drifting raptor]

NA players are better than EU

oh ya west us lobbies are chill

east is chaos

[misty vessel]

i need to play some east i see

[drifting raptor]

u.s. west is just chinese players

[misty vessel]

IK BRO WHYYYY

[drifting raptor]

maybe us west is better connection for them than OCE server

pretty wild

[misty vessel]

the china people play dirty tho no hate but i hear alot of them buy gold off websites and esp

[drifting raptor]

that’s what everyone says ya

[ebon cosmos]

sometimes I play on the SEA server just to grief boss attempts

[wraith robin]

Whats the mats required to make a spectral bags ?

[feral karma]

Troll pelt, Spectral Fabric, Wolf Pelt, Spider Silk, and a Bat Hide.

[ebon cosmos]

this game is so cringe takes so much just to try and squeeze some fun out of it

[clear atlas]

is there even a reason for me to play bard anymore? I played him for simply bossing and piles but I cant even contest those as I just get 3 tapped by clerics and halbert users, or stabbed a few times by rogues, and the occasional 4 shots from a ranger.

[ebon cosmos]

Uh a bard with no plate armor can hit PDR cap AND deal insane damage if built right

[clear atlas]

I hit 50% pdr, still 3 tapped with 150 health

pdr doesnt help when bocklock, smite, poison, and explosive shot all do magic dmg 🙁

[ebon cosmos]

WHY IS IT WHEN I USE SECOND WIND IT DOES JACK SHIT BUT WHENEVER ANYONE ELSE USES IT THEY BECOME IMMORTAL

[gritty flume]

Gotta kill warlord to get arena crafts cringe

Literally any other boss please

[clear atlas]

just do it in pve or normals, aint too bad

the worst part is trying to get it to begin with lol, it just doesnt spawn when you want it.

[austere panther]

Warlock only does 15 dmg on BoC so mdr is only for the first swing pdr affects all other swings.

[clear atlas]

well they are halbert users so they can just space away while swinging, no consquences.

I block em but they swing just as quick as I do sometimes

[austere panther]

So you're actually complaining about halberd being OP?

[clear atlas]

I never said warlock was broken I said Halbert users are the problem lol.

[austere panther]

?

[clear atlas]

yes, because thats apart of the halbert users??

[austere panther]

Explosive shot?

Poison?

[clear atlas]

also said rangers, and rogues, read my dude look UP.

[austere panther]

Smite?

[clear atlas]

I listed them individually

[austere panther]

How are you getting 4 tapped by explosive arrows? If they use longbow they'd need a good bit of dex for 4 arrows of explosive.

[clear atlas]

I only listed magic damage dealing attacks there, not all rangers are those.... its just that they can build it if they need to.

[tropic brook]

where to find mysterious potions?

[clear atlas]

Dreadspines in second layer Ruin castle.

[austere panther]

You missed crystal sword.

[clear atlas]

sure, well argue that, but my beginning argument wasn't including magic damage, I was only listing what was killing me lol, I only listed magic damage things after someone said you just need PDR and health, but sure your right.

[austere panther]

You're*

[clear atlas]

W ragebait

[austere panther]

Thank you

[clear atlas]

Thsnk you

sorry had to undo your comment 🙂

[austere panther]

Thank*

You made a mistake

[clear atlas]

Yep you said it buddy, so make sure not to do it again

[hushed stag]

Baldennk21 — 10:00 PM
will do, ill improve so my class can beat people even as I get slaughtered by them becuase they are just the better class 🙂

still don't make sense

[austere panther]

No I replied to you

[ebon cosmos]

Now that's not the respectful thing to do is it, you crybaby

[hushed stag]

"so i can beat people even as i get slaughtered by them"

[austere panther]

Imagine, what were you xrying about last time we talked?

[clear atlas]

xrying'

buddys cooooked...

[hushed stag]

maybe you should learn to beat people while they're slaughtering you

[ebon cosmos]

You were the one "xrying" because you think you deserved respect despite being a prick lol

[austere panther]

Crying*

[ebon cosmos]

Can't even spell and here you are trying to correct others

[austere panther]

Ooooh yeah, you don't know common courtesy or how to admit you're wrong

[hushed stag]

this was already corrected by the guy above you...
why are you repeating it?

[clear atlas]

you dont either...

[austere panther]

It wasn't?

[ebon cosmos]

before you hit enter I'm gonna tell you to s t f u nobody wants to hear it Spanners

[austere panther]

I do, I just think your need to be right means you can't sit down and give up when someone who's incorrect doesn't change their opinions.

[austere panther]

You hella pressed about manners lmao.

[clear atlas]

who wouldn't be? I think anyone wouldn't want to give up a argument if they are in the right lol.

[ebon cosmos]

I think it's just funny that a dude who goes all grammar naz i on people whines about not getting respect

[austere panther]

I don't think anyone would*

[clear atlas]

W ragebait once again

[snow shuttle]

Fighter got the worst mdr and he is slow as shit
So he is the worst playing against magic.

[austere panther]

I've not even corrected anyone elses grammar except for once today.

[ebon cosmos]

Get this. Last night this dude offered a snarky remark towards dealing with bonk clerics, so I simply said "You sound like a Cleric Main" and he went on and on about not being shown the respect he's due and how a lack of respect online leads to people dying lol

[austere panther]

Thsnk you

[austere panther]

I never mentioned respect nor did I snark. <3

[clear atlas]

hes just trying to be annoying to be fair, only way he gets to have fun in this game xD, same as redcan.

[errant bone]

you could get +15 % mr with the spell reflect perk on idle 🤔

[ebon cosmos]

Yeah you did. You spent the next 2 hours whining about not being shown any.

[errant bone]

skill*

[austere panther]

No, I was telling you it's common kindness not whining and again I never mentioned respect.

[clear atlas]

Good for you :), im glad you killed me as a bonk cleric, your so good at the game, now scram since you got praised good boy.

[snow shuttle]

I don't play fighter I just know he had the worst mdr

[hushed stag]

????????????????

[austere panther]

I'm off break now I'll reply later <3

[ebon cosmos]

Yeah you did. Run along little girl.

[errant bone]

🩵

[ebon cosmos]

My niece has tougher skin for online interactions than you do princess.

[snow shuttle]

Are you playing with a shield?

[clear atlas]

yea, lokey should of won but im not very good tbh

doesnt help it only takes a few swings for a cleric to kill me but it happends

[ebon cosmos]

Lantern Shield + Cutlass is pretty good in SR atm if you can land your blocks.

Just block everything the cleric does for like 6 seconds then go hyper aggro on them

[snow shuttle]

Block the attacks

[errant bone]

why cutlass , i know it has a riposte but isnt it below-ish average if you have a shield?

[clear atlas]

its not as easy as you make it out to be... im running at a permanent 30 frames and I have to react as if im at 120.

[snow shuttle]

Cleric got no range
You have a bow.

[ebon cosmos]

The moveset is good for the head, has a good swing speed without requiring any additional action speed and it's low weight so you move faster with it

[clear atlas]

that's a good argument, sadly it doesn't work when I'm in the mystic gem room and cant space xD.

[snow shuttle]

You need to get better what can I say

[clear atlas]

as good of a argument as many 🤷‍♂️

[snow shuttle]

You won't win every fight

[ebon cosmos]

Of course I've tried going cutlass in dual wield and it's just not very good on it's own. It really needs a shield to be decent.

[clear atlas]

I gotta lose sometimes, I did go on a like HUGE murder spree earlier in gob caves 2 days ago xD.

[gritty sorrel]

Cutlass has a sweet parry

[errant bone]

sorry for correcting but i think rouge has the least mdr because of the lowest will right?

[snow shuttle]

I say, play barb.

[clear atlas]

it really does, its so nice.

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah! And that's where the nice things about it end!

[clear atlas]

yep and then its over 😔

[gritty sorrel]

Its like the horse meme but only the tip of the tail is drawn well

[ebon cosmos]

I watched a streamer earlier today get hit once in the head by a bard with a rapier for 55% of his health. This bard also had 58% PDR and like 48% MDR

[errant bone]

wait what?

whats the build if yk?

[ebon cosmos]

I dunno what the build was

[clear atlas]

that bard must of been taking some crap to do that much, must be full phys power or something.

[ebon cosmos]

I just know that his headshots were doing 55% hp and his shoulder/arm shots were 30%

[clear atlas]

what class was the streamer?

[errant bone]

the war song buff gives +5 damage it might not seem like alot but it could be a big part of the damage

[ebon cosmos]

Dunno how you can be full phys power if you're also like near pdr capped

[clear atlas]

you can build both and sacrifice some stats.

[ebon cosmos]

Full PDR longsword. It was Sparkykawa

[pure trout]

DUDE this game is not real anymore

[errant bone]

probably armor pen instead of phys , that seems more beliveable

[pure trout]

We have fully geared rogues with hide and dualstrike camping new quest locations tok ill squires

has to be a sad life

[errant bone]

bruh

[clear atlas]

100%

[ebon cosmos]

Oh yeah and then like 2 hours later in the same stream he got almost 1 shot by an ambush rogue's dual strike in full pdr kit.

[pure trout]

eu is a shitshow

[clear atlas]

armor pen is really the new true damage in this system for bards.

[ebon cosmos]

I'll try and find the timestamps so you guys can see

[errant bone]

oh yeah guys , the "new" frost amulet gives +1 phys +1% armor , how does that compare to the +1 true phys before?

[clear atlas]

I meant armor pen not phys power xD, its just a replacement, never said better.

[errant bone]

no no i get that , im just asking unrelated

to what you said

[ebon cosmos]

Okay so for that PDR fighter vs the Juiced Bard in HR here's the stream vod on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLuQOEZ_qJE

And he goes back and forth against the bard several times. The final fight is at 1:36:25

[errant bone]

thanks 🩵

[clear atlas]

I think lower values, true phys is better but higher, it isnt anymore as you can get the same benefit from armor pen and phys power overall and potentially higher dmg as its helping all your dmg and not just a little bit that pierces.

its a bit iffy, really depends on the person your fighting I guess lol.

[ebon cosmos]

sry wasn't the last fight but it's one of the last ones. hard to find the exact timestamp in a 7 hour stream

[tough plume]

anyone know what the drop chances for the seals are

[tropic brook]

so im being censored for the only good thing to happen to this game and the fact that sorc is unbalenced w

[errant bone]

he would of been dead if the longsword parry didnt do the normal damage + a ticke

[tough plume]

35 kills and no seals or named :/

[clear atlas]

like 5% in normals and 10% in hr I think?

[stone panther]

yes sir. And 0 on pve

[tough plume]

bruh wtf 35 hr kills and i got no named no seals

this is so fucked 🤣

[clear atlas]

very unlucky

[gritty sorrel]

Thats called being unlucky

[tough plume]

unluckiest man alive right here

[errant bone]

rips

[clear atlas]

you are due like over 3 times in a row xD

[stone panther]

did you check for rogue's in the area?

[gritty sorrel]

Sum1 went n rubbed your arm like the lucky cats in asian shops and restaurants to steal your luck

[errant bone]

😭 🙏

[ebon cosmos]

At 4:00:55 is when the fight with the rogue that nearly 1 taps him starts.

[tough plume]

fr hoping it turns around or im buying a lottery ticket

cuz this is stoopid

[gritty sorrel]

If you get to 100 kills buy a lottery ticket

[tough plume]

lmao 100kills no named no seal

maybe

im pretty sure its like statistically impossible for me to not get a named around that much kills

[errant bone]

its possible

[tough plume]

atleast a seal

[gritty sorrel]

Its also statistically impossible for specifically you or me to be born, yet here we are

[errant bone]

you could get 100 kills and both every time , its possible , but both are super duper unlikley

[gritty sorrel]

Also known as a statistical impossibility

[tough plume]

lol but we talking about number in the code tbf

99.98.88899999......% chance for me

to not get either one

in 100 kills

[errant bone]

atp you got born twice

[tough plume]

wait other way around

99.988888999....% to get a named or a seal

which means

[gritty sorrel]

I believe its 1/1^e-200 or smth like that

[tough plume]

0.002% chance to not get it

yeah its a stupidly low ass number

1/100000 chance

[gritty sorrel]

Its way lower

[tough plume]

jesus

[gritty sorrel]

You have 100 tries each with ~20% chancr of success

[tough plume]

it would be considering its not just one item you get

either way 35 tries and radio silence is still pretty low imo 😭

[gritty sorrel]

That’s 200.20.2*0.2… and So on 96 more times

[tough plume]

i also had like 120 luck too

[gritty sorrel]

Yeah it is

[tough plume]

this game just hates my guts

cannot see me succeed

[gritty sorrel]

Go fo volcano guy and you get tear first try

[tough plume]

seriously i did

[pure trout]

Anyone know where the dreadspines are

[tough plume]

so like 10 days ago i did overseer and didnt get anything for like 20~25ish kills

so i went to fire colussus and got the tear in the first kill

like

[clear atlas]

does a morningstar go through a lantern shield? May try using a lantern shield instead.

[gritty sorrel]

Lmao

[tough plume]

cryptcodex website is cool it shows spawn locations

try it out

[gritty sorrel]

I dont even know what that is

[tough plume]

guh its still dookie

well time to try more

[pure trout]

dude i cant in normals its so cancer

like people see squire trying to quests and this mf hunts me for 5 modules

like enjoy the 2 pots and 2 bandages

[tough plume]

i mean the potions were like 8000 a piece

[warm parcel]

for folks doing rings for money what rarity and stats do yall go for to maximize profit? cuz low rolls on the cheap end for epic/legendary do not support the overhead for buying mats. blue strength rings with phys pow/phys dmg bonus seem to but still kinda slow by my math

[tough plume]

hope i get something this time kekw

[gritty sorrel]

I atleast cant tell what Gear ppl are running until I get bonked by em. If someone runs, me hunts. If someone attacks, me fights. If someone deals a trillion damage in one shot, me runs.

[dusky stratus]

in 2nd layer crypts , mini wheel module & sanctum module , at least 1 more module but i forget the name sorry

[soft wolf]

Finesse and quickness rings that are purple are big profit

[tough plume]

purple peace pendants with max rolls are like heaven

get phys power and action speed max on that thing and it will sell for quite the funky

[soft wolf]

True, but getting max rolls aren’t super likely. But if they farm mats for finesse or quickness they just sell better cause most people can easily craft rings of courage

[tough plume]

thays why you sell them if you get bad rolls

same price as the ingredients anyways

[warm parcel]

so if they roll like shit is it worth gemming to try and push for better meta stats?

[tough plume]

maybe

or straight up selling is fine too

[warm parcel]

do you mean vendoring or trade chat and wait?

[soft wolf]

Market

[tough plume]

no like gemming = gambling

and if you fail just market it

[warm parcel]

oh i see so before you were referencing proper trading? i just intend to market tbh, dont have the patience for people and bartering lol

[hardy mesa]

Ive gotten 4 coin bags in pve piles but can I get chests?

or nah?

[deft lintel]

I’ve heard conflicting reports. In theory yes.

[hardy mesa]

but its so low of a chance

unlike if i did it in hr huh

[tough plume]

like 0.002 or something like that

0.02?

really low

[hardy mesa]

its prolly higher for bards with 500

[tough plume]

uhh still low considering it wouldnt make it higher

well that higher

[hardy mesa]

true

but considering Ive gotten 4 bags in the last 7 games

while getting 4 spec fabs id say its still a high chance it would just take a long time

[terse ridge]

guys anyone knows what the final quest of gold smithgives? i dont want to dump like 30 gold into nothing

[austere panther]

<3 you enjoy talking to little girl mister <3

[errant bone]

im crine 😭

[long grove]

guys i just dies to a penguin in squire royale

is it a bargain thing or is je just a cheater bc ive never seen a penguin before

[dusky stratus]

its a druid animal form

[hardy stump]

penguin is non meta spellcaster druid form that used to dominate water map with its movement superiority

[gritty sorrel]

How do I use trading post??? I cant send msgs

[hardy stump]

free accounts can't

[gritty sorrel]

I have legendary

[hardy stump]

donno then

[gritty sorrel]

Da fug

[stone panther]

you posting stuff in your message? you cant just post text to it, must have item

[gritty sorrel]

Im trying to figre out how to do that

[mighty tulip]

i dont get how to dodge the demon overseer flying at you and slams. i think thats a new attack

[stone panther]

hold shift, left click on your item

[gritty sorrel]

Ty

[dusky stratus]

jump over his right hand before the slam

[pseudo blaze]

Whats the best ale tavern master can sell?

common?

idk if I want to deal with the hassle of killing a dreadspine idk what else i can unlock from tavern quests

[fathom loom]

Quick question guys, when does the goblin merchant return your items? cause in normal dungeons he hasnt returned anything to me only in ove

pve

[pseudo blaze]

im also curious about that

[warm parcel]

pvp modes are relationship based now i believe for recovery, as for when its a few minutes after that lobby closes

[fathom loom]

ohh so i have to level goblin up

[warm parcel]

to my understanding yes. i remember reading it somewhere but cant remember 100% atm so take it with a grain of salt lol

[fathom loom]

haha ok ty

[mighty tulip]

thanks ill try that

[dusky stratus]

Good luck! 🧙‍♂️

[drifting raptor]

higher affinity with goblin means it’s more likely that he brings your gear back if nobody took it

[fallen shuttle]

Hey since we don't have the most atrocious dev ever anymore can we finally make the change where hellfire does not go through walls. IT IS POINTLESS AND FRAME CONSUMING IF IT JUST GOES SIDEWAYS. Like it going through walls and changing directions is the most ignorant balance change known to man right behind faustian bargain being added to the game

[meager atlas]

this game would be 10 times better if chinese had their own realm and couldnt play with us holy

[still vessel]

guys where do i find gold goblets for the daily quests

[gusty sierra]

What monster drops 'mysterious potion'?

[warm parcel]

dreadspine i think but its legendary rarity so drop rate ass and market price high af

[wet dust]

does wyvern drop any other artis other than bows? like viola or smth

[icy roost]

👍

[fallen shuttle]

so why did ranger recieve new perks and skills before cleric. When ranger is literally the most overpowered class in the game and has been fora very long time. Aim shoot run aim shoot run. Maybe add a stamina bar for ranger's bow so he cant run and then immediately turn and shoot and run. This gameplay style has been contantly reinforced by your changes.

[pseudo blaze]

rangers suck from what ive seen

[gusty sierra]

if one dies in pve mode, do you still can collect the gear you had in the goblin merchant?

[feral crescent]

Let them push you and play to your advantage. If you get the drop on a ranger it's difficult for them to escape. Rogues and rangers were planned for the revamp this season back when they dropped the fighter and barb one last season, I think wizard and cleric might be next but I can't recall to be certain

[zealous wing]

I think their plan for adding perks/skills is starting with the phys dps then ending with the healer/casters

[zealous wing]

Yes you just have to wait till that games session is over before it delivers

[austere panther]

I 1v1'd someone who believed this, if you get them in one room even a ranger in blue bis gets stomped by swuire

[marble yoke]

I think Ranger is one of the worst classes.

[tough plume]

update on the overseer

kills

reached 40 kills

and nothing still

my luck is like something else

[austere panther]

Not that but definately not OP

Almost rather a support ranger to a dps ranger

Wizards love campfire mastery.

[marble yoke]

Not the worst, but no where near a fighter or rogue.

[austere panther]

Rogue is also quite weak

It's just got good surprise attack advantage

Which just about evens the odds of them winning 1 on 1

[pseudo blaze]

@stankfingas bro how low was your hp? - demon lock

[austere panther]

Not low enough I'd say

[pseudo blaze]

i kept fighting him as a demon lock and just trading with exp strike

and he would not die

ran away twice and rehealed lol

do I use a purple or blue pot against a cleric btw?

[mild topaz]

Hello guys, I reinstalled the game recently, but for some reason the game stutters a lot. Am i the only one with this issue or does it have to do smth with the last update?

[fallen shuttle]

same shit

[pseudo blaze]

if they have smite

[wet seal]

Too many safespots in this game.. Sorc can teleport to out of bound positions ... fix pls

[hardy mesa]

Built my spam dark reflect build wrong I dint do damage

Spent like 30k on it just to die first raid

[wet seal]

It has been fixed - debuff doesnt work on the cooldown

[proper storm]

why tf is it not letting me run overdraw in frost cavern, says its banned

[pseudo blaze]

is there any updated websites for making builds?

[proper storm]

WHY TF CANT I RUN OVERDRAW IN SOLO HR FROST IT SAYS ITS BANNED

[pseudo blaze]

like being able to see what stats you'd have with a full set of specific gear with specific roles

i found a couple on google but they seem outdated

[normal jolt]

How much do gold coin chests hold now? Also same for spectral bags?

[gritty sorrel]

Because its banned!

[obtuse talon]

how much affinity with leathersmith is needed to unlock the spectral coinbag recipe?

[dusky marsh]

is this supposed to be humor?

[obtuse talon]

how much affinity with leathersmith is needed to unlock the spectral coinbag recipe?

[tough plume]

you just need to do the last quest

it just came out

[proper storm]

how can it be humor, why would a perk be banned in HR lmao

[thin dagger]

🫃

[obtuse talon]

you can read why in announcements

[obsidian mica]

How do i kite a fighter/barb with bard

[clear atlas]

thats the funny part, you dont unless you bow spam

despite what you'd expect, taking 10 movement speed away and giving yourself 5 doesnt stop them from catching up

[toxic halo]

I need someone to teach me cyclops / troll pls

[hardy stump]

Cyclops is hold D and watch for stomp
Troll is hold D and watch for slam

[toxic halo]

k

[warped cobalt]

why new quest disappeared??

I started the last quest for Goldsmith. After I slept, the quest disappeared.

[clear atlas]

just a visual bug, happends randomally, restarting may fix it. Not like the first of the bugs that have appeared... considering dark ritual room doesnt even exist for one of the quests.

[warped cobalt]

ok thank u

[crystal imp]

elven bow shoots straight under water?

[charred veldt]

Yessir

[smoky hare]

hello yaall

[thorny star]

anyone got reliable way to parry / avoid spectral phase pointing down without just booking it and running away? i know of the one where you wait next to him and time a jump then crouch, but would like to know if there is aany other alternatives?

[clear atlas]

a bit slower but yes, just as straight

[narrow charm]

Hello

[smoky hare]

hows uuu

[crude quiver]

Blue

[pseudo blaze]

Even against smite?

[crude quiver]

Yes

[thorny star]

id say purple, if bonk smite + judgment

[austere panther]

Can we make resourcefulness reduce cooldown further so ranger can use shotgun overdraw and old yeller every 5 seconds?

[thorny star]

anyone?

[deep ingot]

do you mean the phase mechanic?

[thorny star]

yes

when sword pointing down not up

[deep ingot]

im pretty sure u just jump crouch the horizontal slash on your feet and crouch / look down the horizontal one going for ur head. Apparently the 2nd one can be blocked while you matrix it but it can be unreliable

[thorny star]

yeah but you gotta almost perfect time it

i do it 95% of the time but there is that 5 %, so jus wanna know if there is any other ways

[deep ingot]

yeah best way is to learn when he will phase, so your ready for it. That way you can position him on one side of the room and turn around and just run away from it. I usually do this and then still will do the jump crouch / crouch look down just incase i cant outrange it.

[thorny star]

nah fuck running away, i wanna go up to him, look him in the eyes and then parry or jump :P

[deep ingot]

well ive never personally tried parrying it, but according to other people it's inconsistant cause the hitbox is so large on the phase mechanic

[velvet kayak]

doesn't resourcefulness work for every skill? What about BoC etc. if they build on resourcefulness, they will not be building STR nor DEX-see it that way

[thorny star]

ahh, i eman the sword up is really reliable to parry if you know where to look, i just dont know the down one :P

shibal i guess i go test dummy mode

[deep ingot]

i guess it will depend on the weapon you use. Maybe something like a halbred would be better for blocking at ur feet?

[thorny star]

rapier

wanna learn stiletto aswell

lowkey

[deep ingot]

just learn the boss without parrying anything. that way you can use any weapon you like

[thorny star]

i have

just wanna be able to do the phase uber consistent and while hugging him

[deep ingot]

ping makes a big difference too. some attacks he do are almost impossible to dodge if your over 120 ping

[thorny star]

i mean i would never play on anything close to 120 i feel like

so should be aight

[deep ingot]

you can also cheese the phase mechanic with some classes abilties like warlock phantomise

[narrow charm]

Im good and you?

[velvet kayak]

Anyone having issues/bug with your "E" skillbutton?

[peak lynx]

Day 44 @fleet imp @zinc sparrow

[deep ingot]

sounds like a skill issue 😉

[thorny star]

sounds like keyboard issue bru

[velvet kayak]

Not funny, Toasty... been having the bug for 3 days now... had it last season/beginning of wipe.. patchnotes said they fixed it.. accured 3 days ago and is still there... cannot use my "E" button while running/crouching, only works when i change the keybind to another button.. very frustrating having to retrain my brain to use a different key for my spellmemory

[deep ingot]

maybe the game thinks your pressing Shift E instead of E so its like a seperate keybind.

i just bound both my skills to my mouse since this game doesnt really have that many keybinds. Mousebutton 4 and 5 (side mouse buttons)

[velvet kayak]

"Just" lmao frustrating.. been hsing "E" for years... now HAVE to change it.. bug report is send.. but changing my keybinds is the besf thing i can do atm it seems...

[deep ingot]

are you using a mechanical keyboard? sometimes that fixes issues like this.

[velvet kayak]

Nope

[deep ingot]

you should get one then. Normal keyboards are terrible for gaming. they have a limit on the amount of keys you can press at the same time. it sounds like its the issue you have tbh.

[velvet kayak]

Ive been using mine for a couple of years now.. im good.. problem is ironmace, not my keyboard

[tough plume]

reached 50 kills!

overseers has given me NOTHING!

😭

this had to be a joke

[vagrant fulcrum]

You gotta take it from him!

[pulsar birch]

Are there marketplace bots? I ask because sometimes I'll list an item and the moment it is on there, it is sold. I just can't see how that is a normal person buying it every time.

[lost mural]

That is a possibility. I can't confirm that they exist but it's highly likely.

[pulsar birch]

It's always an item that is being listed below the current lowest priced item. Best example is to list a stack of gems under the current lowest price. Doesn't happen every time, but it does happen a lot

[wispy warren]

When does this twitch drops end?

[lost mural]

I've noticed that too. I'm selling a lot of rings at the moment and mine sell out in minutes.

[tidal crescent]

How do you avoid getting pushed off by the wyvern when he only tries to push you off on third phase?

[lost mural]

Although it could just be people scanning for the cheapest items. There are a couple thousand people playing the game.

[pulsar birch]

I'm talking instantly though, the moment it is on the market, it is sold.

[lost mural]

Yeah that's what I mean

The moment I list a ring it's gone. I sell them lower than market price.

[pulsar birch]

Even if you scan for items, it would still take you a couple seconds tops to see it and hit the buttons to buy it. Maybe there are some serious gamers out there that hit those buttons lightning fast idk

[lost mural]

I think it's a mix of bots and gold rich players

[next epoch]

ya ive seen posts of something called bishunter, you set up an item search and the mods you look for and get pinged when it pops up on market. havent actually looked it up myself yet tho

[dusky marsh]

and checking patch-notes without playing is too much waste of time for you. so you can ignore them, ask your silly question and annoy ppl. especially by saying the same exact thingg within 2min, eventually in caps. what an annoying helpless person you are. yikes. (sorry for the hate, but im so fed up with this type of person)

[pseudo blaze]

Anyone mind helping me on the scaling for arcane shield? Blocks for 15 (0.5) and explodes for 5 (1.0)

Anyone know how much that is with 38% mdb? I’m terrible at math lol

[river helm]

We need a squire royale ranking

[jovial viper]

17.85 and 6.9

[pseudo blaze]

Ty bro

[hard pelican]

Anyone else bored with the current classes or just me

[obsidian cape]

how many hours ig

[austere panther]

It's more bored of the fights for me, it's all meta slave fights. No originality in any builds.

[hard pelican]

Close to 2900 would be more but i always get bored and stop playing cause most of the classes all just feel the same

[obsidian cape]

thats a lotta hours brudda, arena esports time for u

[hard pelican]

Not that many when you consider i've been playing since the first playtest

[elfin plume]

What are keys even worth
I find so many

[hard pelican]

Nothing they can only be used for key rooms