game-discussion

[real forge]

If you use shotgun, it freezes it you cant use it, then you stutter around not being able to do anything.
Overdraw, shoots the arrow, then will either do the same bug, or shoot a fake arrow after the real one.

[quartz osprey]

does anyone else think the MS penalty on dwarf is crazy

being shorter might be better but -10 ms is so bad

[peak lynx]

@silk wigeon I love your gilded idea

Please start daily marking your desire for it. That is my wet dream

[livid onyx]

Squire to riches, its captures alot of the feel of the original playtests. It's a great mode.

[silk wigeon]

I can post it more, that would be my ideal way to play the game honestly. I had one popular Reddit post about it but a lot of the comments and ideas I think went a little too far out of scope. Like super cool ideas but definitely a bit over the top haha

[peak lynx]

Finally they nerfed dwarf. It used to be no punishment just short when it first dropped and everyone was speed rushing with heater shield and u just couldn’t hit them bc hitbox was completely covered

[peak lynx]

I have been upset since they removed random map Que couple updates ago and your idea would be the best thing this game ever did. I talked to one other person and told him I thought it would be too hard for the devs to implement and reverting S2R would be easier. But so many people said they love S2R but hate half of the maps. So just having a separate game mode would be best

[errant pendant]

What drops Broken glasses?

[silk wigeon]

Yep exactly, just as a battle mode and if it fails, remove it y’know. Good testing for them, I feel like it would be very popular with the casual audience

[jovial viper]

when shift walking why is your teammates footsteps louder than ur own lol

[hushed spear]

do ice imps have a better drop rate for broken glasses than inferno imps

i have genocided the inferno imps and still haven't gotten them

[jovial viper]

ice imps dont drop them at all

[rugged trellis]

where can I find the drop rate on piles and bosses?

[finite yoke]

Inferno imps

[obsidian cape]

someone did a video on it, it was about luck. search it on yt

[tough urchin]

guys i ask again. is teamming ok in normals? it seems to be meta. i should pick it up

[devout hull]

yes

[austere panther]

question for anyone who wants to answer. What was the last build you used that didn't follow meta? a weapon, perhaps a skill that wasn't recommended or a perk that you decided to use different.

[tiny girder]

Its dumb af but yes you can

Getting 3v9 is ok

[spiral totem]

I pulled my first gold bag today!

[tough urchin]

it's horrible that you're forced into hr to get a fair game.

[tough urchin]

congrats

[spiral totem]

Thank you! I can now do cyclopse every time, and im learning troll, its just the one back hand swing that gets me sometimes. banshee isn't too bad and im gonna try to learn all the bosses this wipe 😄

[kind dome]

yea same

[real yoke]

Ok, how can i reduce the ammount of crashes, its really hard to play when i keep crashing, especially when back to back.

[obsidian cape]

fresh install that b

[sturdy coral]

real shit. sucks but works. try to clean up the files before reinstalling

[real yoke]

Clean up the files?

[dire lance]

refresh the mainframe

[real yoke]

Do you mean verify integrity cause I have done that repeatedly, and no change 🙁

[obsidian cape]

he probably means just delete any remaining files

[sturdy coral]

yea this. there’s tools you can look up that will uninstall and clean for you? local files that hold configurations need to get cleared for like totally clean install

[obsidian cape]

like if you are on steam, go to your steamapps and delete the leftover files if any. theres also an anti-cheat that doesnt uninstall itself, delete that too

[sturdy coral]

I reinstalled windows and the game and it runs a lot better

[obsidian cape]

tavern comm and tavern worker, i don't think steam uninstalls those.

[brave jolt]

I have a friend who’s having massive fps drops when he finds ppl in dungeons. Any suggestions on how to fix that?

[obsidian cape]

happens to everyone pretty much

if theres enough people my frames drop to 20

[wind venture]

Are you allowed to have a market price checker? To see what items are worth.

[obsidian cape]

its worse if the server is farther from you

[meager hawk]

dont look then lol

simple

[brave jolt]

In his case the game is really unplayable. I can play the game just fine, but his game freezes for a few seconds.

[real yoke]

I totally don't need to do that..... definetly dont get BSOD weekly or anything.

[meager hawk]

move closer dude omg

good idea requires good mind

[obsidian cape]

i run everything as low as possible, no anti aliasing, render %90. You can ask them to run the game at a lower resolution, if they get a lot more frames, it might be hardware requirement stuff

[brave jolt]

He has a decent PC (4070ti, for instance) and used to play just fine in the past

[obsidian cape]

use dx 11 probably

dx12 isn't optimized unless a senior engineer with proprietary knowledge configures it for your game

which no one can do in the indie space

[brave jolt]

Ah I see, will tell him that

Appreciate the help, but it looks like more ppl are having this issue. It’d be great if IM patched that.

[obsidian cape]

i fkn will you sob watch

[strong jackal]

Does anyone know what do you need to activate for high roller? Secure boot and what else?

[meager hawk]

you not know me i no crying dude

[obsidian cape]

im moving into the building rfn

[meager hawk]

i give idea good and you insult me presence

we no friends anymore bro

[obsidian cape]

i show you respect with disrespect tho

[meager hawk]

man that make me think now

[obsidian cape]

u cry now

[warped wraith]

Why would any one play a cloth character type with shadow step in game. Its crazy. WTF were they thinking.

[meager hawk]

me grown bro 🥱

grown never cry never

[obsidian cape]

lmao

[meager hawk]

i think about it

we still friends bro

🤙

[sturdy coral]

🤣

[obsidian cape]

sfc /scannnow ur shiz

[real yoke]

Yep do that weekly

and dism of course

[obsidian cape]

if it finds stuff missing it might be storage probs

[real yoke]

My install of windows just is entirely borked, I tend to break windows... often due to me doing stuff that lots of windows users dont typicaly do.

[meager hawk]

Like downloading Chinese WinRar?

Or making Windows into Mac?

[real yoke]

My install has been broken for... 4+ years, I just havent gotten around to fixing it as not much time to game, so would rather suffer the consequences then have to reinstall all of my stuff all 5 tbs lol.

[real yoke]

Spawning vms, messing with low level windows apis, and other such senigans.

Fun fact, its pretty easy to lock self out of device using the windows hello api, since you can hold the api up by not deallocating stuff, and then if you have windows hello setup and havent changed the default of requireing windows hello to login vwala no more access until you reboot pc

[tender jackal]

does hr troll have higher chance to drop pelt?

[scarlet blade]

Could anyone let me rez them in frost MTN, i have no friends

[atomic cove]

How do I make harpy pregnant

[weary socket]

Yes

[sly ember]

Both have the same droprate

Proof: Trust
(Noone knows)

[neat urchin]

video game logic says yes, but these ARE dark and darker devs we are dealing with so hard to say

[still cloud]

always the loser to kill after you kill boss lol

[hoary flax]

So you need to be level 20 to trade right? Any reason why one of my level 6 characters can trade with no issues lol

[wet dust]

yo i killed a healer druid for a demon warlock, any ideas why he might have been building cooldown reduction? they we're running kumas and spellweaver

[tawdry schooner]

dreamwalk

[wet dust]

yeah but isn't it's cooldown a debuff? meaning it would be affected by debuff duration bonus and not cooldown?

[obtuse pumice]

did they nerf overseer ? i cant even get his seal anymore :!

[tawdry schooner]

idrk the technicalities maybe he was building it wrong but pretty sure he would get it back faster with cooldown reduction and buff duration so it lasts longer too

[elfin plume]

whats the keybind to click on an item to drop it?

[obsidian cape]

anyone still having TPM issues, turns out you don't need hardware tpm theres a work around.

I want someone to try it lol

[plush girder]

Just killed a geared dude on goblins elevator, his body fell down started going to the moon. ::(

[next epoch]

if you leave the room, move 1 full module away then come back, youll probably have it teleport back to where you killed him. rare that i need to do this but it fixes it everytime for me

[plush girder]

i took blue right after was tilted ngl

ill give this a go next time

[strong mica]

is it normal at the lowest rank to get into hr lobbies with full legendary/unique gear people?

[wet dust]

yep, rank doesn't matter. i think having gear does have a bias of putting you into more geared lobbies tho

[obsidian cape]

super lame, but it works.

[strong mica]

aight, thx. it was weird cuz' last time when i played iirc there was gear caps

[radiant mortar]

how do i report after dying in game ?

[edgy sable]

Yell "MOM!" really loud IRL

[gritty pond]

so your gear score which is displayed in game is SOMETIMES used to place matches, this happens during busier hours when theres a lot more people playing

[dire lance]

press R or Yell "MOM!" really loud IRL

[edgy sable]

I thought it was just a number they made up so you can compare eachothers number size and whoevers number is bigger is the better player..

[radiant mortar]

very blatant teaming situation, thanks i dunno how i didn't see the R button

[errant coyote]

There should be an option at the end of the game before you click to leave

[gritty pond]

its actually a direct measurement of penile length

[radiant mortar]

appreciated

[edgy sable]

I Thought literally a REPORT button comes up on the screen which is why Im being an ass about it 🙂

[radiant mortar]

could be lmfao, i was busy looking up their names i didn't notice ngl

[errant coyote]

Pro tip, it will show their names in the report screen

[radiant mortar]

all done and clean, cheers

[edgy sable]

🍻

[spiral totem]

I pulled a gold coinbag from the goblin boss pile earlier but instead of it showing looted, it shows handled...? anyone know why?

[glass geyser]

why is every character faster wearing full palte then a rogue?

[gritty pond]

did you use the expressman?

[spiral totem]

no, I carried it out my self. first one Ive ever pulled.

[gritty pond]

damn i always thought it was cuz of that

[glass geyser]

makes sense that a plate lock with a ahalberd can out run a rogue

i mean clearly the sky is fire, life is a joke, air is toxic, and 50$ is only 3$ upo is down left is right and im just stupid

[meager hawk]

Sometimes that actually happens. Sometimes due to simply extracting (sometimes after dropping it and extracting).

[glass geyser]

clearly i need a lombotomy

[meager hawk]

It can also happen with loot from the players.

[meager hawk]

If you kill someone, it'll show that YOU found it, but it'll say that it's handled.

[glass geyser]

clearly i shouldnt exist because math doesnt weork go figure we got the wrong asians making math in a game work

[spiral totem]

normally that does it, but this one I took out my self for sure lol. yeah, I didnt' drop it but I did move it from the left to the right of my stash? lol maybe that did it

[glass geyser]

i mean 298 is faster then 260 but nope south korean math makes the smaller number faster

[meager hawk]

Game's a big bug, don't be surprised.

[glass geyser]

makes sense

should have left the game in nexons hands

[spiral totem]

it would probably still be on a shelf somewhere not being developed..

[glass geyser]

probably should have been left there since they cant make simple math workin a game

[spiral totem]

[meager hawk]

Finally, feet fetish and even more bugs.

[glass geyser]

using ai to create the game probably leaving shit code to make shit like 260 faster then 298

ai cant figure shit out correctly

[spiral totem]

is that really a thing? move speed is backwards now?

[glass geyser]

seems like it i am constantly being chased down by clerics locks fighters in full plate

[modest wadi]

does wyvern still only drop bows?

[glass geyser]

while having the lock most recently swapping weapons to chase me down which is supposed to slow you

but i guess game mechanics are just too hgard to comprehend

[meager hawk]

Nein.

[glass geyser]

i stand in fire to iuncease dps

[modest wadi]

no? what does it drop now?

[meager hawk]

Some stuff.

God knows what they doing bro

[glass geyser]

brainddead > actual game mechanichs

[meager hawk]

Viola is back and that's all I need to know ngl

Not really interested in all the other drops from it

[glass geyser]

what am i playing a 8 yo's game of cards he invented called "i win" bros pulls 3 uno cards and deuce deuce vs my royal flush and gets the dub

oooooklay

[signal osprey]

when are they gonna remove secureboot?

[meager hawk]

Sometimes.

[glass geyser]

i hope the people in full plate fall down a flight of stairs or have an elevator drop from under them

dudes be bringing "wow" nitro boots into DnD because sarcastaball logic (ty south park)

fuck it its a fucking field goal

[sage cipher]

Havent been looking at recent announcements, are all the updates and software changes for high roller ever gonna be removed to allow older setups to play?

[glass geyser]

we have three yellow flags 3 people dead the ball was dropped picked up ran into the concession stand came back and into the end zone, fuck it it a fucking field goal

ooooookiay

[last basin]

umm how do you get out of the blindfall pit area? that has a elevator that goes up but the leveer is broken?!?!?

[fiery sigil]

is it possible to find a seal of dominion in normals?

[warm tendon]

I don't think they have said anything about it.

[last basin]

plz help im stuck lol

[finite yoke]

Bro doesn't know what spacing is

[warm tendon]

What map are you on, I'm trying to look up your module but I cannot find it

[last basin]

cryts its new modduel that never shows up

[glass geyser]

dude doesnt realize that 298 is more then 260

i get it must be girl math

[finite yoke]

You're at 260 movespeed without plate? Wow you're bad at building

[warm tendon]

Shoot idk, it is not showing up on the darkandarker map website. Not sure what to tell you

[pliant orchid]

anyone has any idea why im getting the enable secure boot prompt when i was playing high roller 2 hours ago? all i did in that time was close the game and open it now lol

[glass geyser]

@finite yokereally a rogue in plate why dont you go read all the posts instead of using 2 iq and seeing one post and thinking a rogue is in p;late

[warm tendon]

Maybe restart? Make sure Secure Boot is in User mode and not in Setup mode. Idk how to do that but a quick internet search should help you figure that out

[glass geyser]

mmmmmm im bono more bitty please popa

[last basin]

made it out with a chest thankful found a lever

[warm tendon]

lets goo! that is huge

[last basin]

awesaome moddual that never shows up had 3 gold piles and 4 gold ore spots, i had 450 luck so big dub

[pliant orchid]

yeah im restarting it now

[glass geyser]

mmmm im buring im literally on fire il,l just walk away 30 feet and yet low and behoild im still on fire

hmmm that didnt fix it ill try walking 30 feet away again

[pliant orchid]

yeah its fixed, weird ass bug

[finite yoke]

Okay tell me what exactly you're crying about

[glass geyser]

nope still on fire

@finite yoke yes mother theresa ill explain that a rogue at 298 ms is faster then any player in full plate i dont see what s hard to understand about that

@finite yoke thats not ture becasue i said so

im comhraic i smrty

i wipe back to front

herrrp derrp

[uncut crag]

It’s a bug just restart

[gritty pond]

i think IM would be doing you a favor if they just hardware banned you, you clearly dont have the mental stability to play this without giving yourself an aneurism

[glass geyser]

lmao

whats not stable about math?

298 > 260

[gritty pond]

the instability isnt in the math its in your ability to just play the game without raging

[glass geyser]

well it is

the math doesnt math

how do you think your faster then a rogue when your in full plate

[gritty pond]

been in here 30 minutes, what do you want? a personal apology from IM?

[glass geyser]

got some game of thrones logic jamie lannister swimming out of the lake in full plate

[gritty pond]

lolol

[glass geyser]

what the fuck is even that

ooooklay

but im stupid

[gritty pond]

and 298 isnt even a lot of MS

probably spectated the wrong guy

[glass geyser]

but you can see that its mroe then 260

[gritty pond]

you can say whatever you want buft if you walk like a square and they J walk all over your movement a 260 can catch a 298 no problem

[glass geyser]

its not hard to assume that base MS of any character that isnt a rogue is around 298 +/- 3

[vernal badger]

U can get 298 ms in full plate minus boots

[glass geyser]

so when you take that and apply the negative from swapping weapons and the halberd

[gritty pond]

the problem is your movement isnt good enough and you wanna complain that your higher number wasnt enough to cover your shitty pathing choice

[glass geyser]

you can cl;early see that its less then 298

do you know what happened?

were you there?

no then shut it

[gritty pond]

i know that a guy with 38 less MS than you shit on you and youve been in here whining for 30 minutes to whoever will enage with you

[glass geyser]

we dont need girl math coming in to apply girl logic into a simple answer

well not

[obsidian cape]

halbred is such a good attack anim, feels weightless when u swing too.

[glass geyser]

why are you reading postsd for 30 minutes

do you have a life

[gritty pond]

i have 2 monitors and when i realized you were still in here after 3 dungeons i scrolled back

and lo and behold 30+ mins of whining

[glass geyser]

and you didnt even get the story right

wooooooow

reading comprehension is at an all time low huh

[gritty pond]

says phonics monkey profile pic who doesnt know how to run from players who are better than him xD

just entertaining at this point

[glass geyser]

the blue ball bounced. this guy " i like the part about the cow"

[obsidian cape]

why you mad that plate caught you as rogue, hit weakpoint and kill em

[glass geyser]

nah bro im got ran down over 50 feet buy a guyt in full palte

again

[obsidian cape]

can fighter still get max movespeed in squire plate with sprint?

[glass geyser]

let alone getting out swam byu a bear (109 ms) inwater as a rogue (179 ms)

with his weapon put away yes

close any ways

[gritty pond]

you probably turn around a bunch to check distance and lose ground over and over, youll never win the argument that MS doesnt work

[glass geyser]

nope

[finite yoke]

So why are you complaining about plate users when the rogue is faster than people in plate?

[glass geyser]

just assume tthings and it makes you look like an ass

[warm tendon]

Servers down? My game crashed then when I tried to start the game it said "Payment verifcation status failed" and then my launcher exited. Now I need to log in again but i'm getting; "server error please try again"/

[glass geyser]

becuase i get ran down are you really that daft

[gritty pond]

sitting in here syaing MS doesnt work to people who play more than you kmakes you look dumb

[glass geyser]

thick headed

jesus

[warm tendon]

How do I fix error 2 on login?

[glass geyser]

like a fly smashing into a window

i cant get outtt!

there seems to be a force field here

what is this sorcery

[dire lance]

are u mentally handicapped

yes or yes

[glass geyser]

go watch more DSP

cat

[vernal badger]

I haven't really seen many complaints about rogues being run down by plate locks. Seems if it was common there would be tons of people complaining since rogue is popular this wipe

[glass geyser]

i even had a foot race with a plate fighter who was on my team no sprint and he out ran the rogue

[obsidian cape]

everyone was complaing about plate a week ago

[glass geyser]

what is my guy tom brady taking a shit in his pants in South Park just slow and dumb

[vernal badger]

It's easy to get 300+ ms on fighter in mostly plate if u dont have playe legs or boots

[tawdry schooner]

chat what’s wrong with this guy

[warm tendon]

Game killed me after finding the most insane boots.... thanks game

[gritty pond]

someone did the wrong acid lol

[glass geyser]

also why is the spec knight killing my rogue with his horizontal swing when im crouched and staring at my feet but anyone else is able to just crouch and keep hitting him not even looking down?

hmmm seeems sus

[tawdry schooner]

u got mental issues dawg

[glass geyser]

but ya know, i mean apple to oranges

nah i got people issues

[tawdry schooner]

seems like u just blame everything but ur own skill

[glass geyser]

how is crouch a skill isue

[spiral totem]

what were they?

[tawdry schooner]

spec knight has bumps in the floor in the arena that can elevate your character

[glass geyser]

making any excuse to make me look like im the problem

[tawdry schooner]

skill issue

lmaooo

[opaque helm]

does mending grove scale with a magic staff?

[glass geyser]

so ill go rat druid and look and prove you wrong you ready?

[tawdry schooner]

sure

[obsidian cape]

everyone has complained about the game like system32, just sayin

[glass geyser]

ill be back

and if your talking about the middle plateform where the spec knight starts towards the rest that isnt even a high enough ledge for that to be a thing

trust me ive looked

i do my due dilligence have you

[tawdry schooner]

nah i can dodge his swings fine

[glass geyser]

samne everything works fine when i play fighter bard cleric, rogue tho theres the problem

[raven skiff]

Make maps bigger or reduce amount of teams on a map

5th party every fucking game, shit game

[spiral totem]

so is the problem the math for MS or is there some overwhelming bug with rogue now?

[edgy sable]

stealth buff cause its the season of rogue

[spiral totem]

yeah, double invis time and steps while invis, I dont see wht could go wrong.

[warm tendon]

Wizard shoes with:

• 3 knowledge
• 3 resourcefulness
• 3 vigor
• 1 strength
  was playing sorc :/

[spiral totem]

those do sound nice, the dungeon said they were too nice to leave o7

[warm tendon]

yeah but such a weird way. I get disconnected every now and then but this time it logged me out of the game.... very weird

[spiral totem]

totally logged you out? I guess they were too nice to leave lol thats rly weird.

[full whale]

where is gold ore in crypts? it says it has a chance to spawn in "mysterious" rooms as of february 26 patch

[warm tendon]

Yes it was very strange, never had anything like this happen before.

[spiral totem]

ive only seen gold on the rock golems in HR

[warm tendon]

There is a rare module that only shows up every now and then. It is a castle like structure with gates on all sides. To get it in you need to throw a torch through a slit above the door and have it land on a pressure plate which will in turn open the door.

[red iron]

PEOPLE, does bladehand have any more moves in highroller?

[hasty creek]

does how much you donate matter in how much of the current effect of the religion affect you? Like is there a difference if I've donated 100 coins vs 100k?

[thin stirrup]

it doesnt affect the bonus

[knotty wadi]

why in the piss does poison still tick after the rogue is dead are we genuinely stupid developers

[warm tendon]

The stregth of the bonus given by religion depends on how much is donated by people overall. I wouldn't be surprised if it is already maxed out. You do have a progression bar on a personal level that unlocks certain rewards.

[hasty creek]

yeah I'm not donating one cent then

[thin stirrup]

jelly

[thin stirrup]

cuz its the poison? lmao

[warm tendon]

The 100k donation reward is often a skin

[knotty wadi]

logic like this is why they balance the game around casuals and the game goes downhill more and more

[warm tendon]

You should look at the rewards ladder and check if it is maxed out.

[full whale]

thanks i appreciate it, was wondering if i was just walking past it

[warm tendon]

It's very rarre so... you might have ahd it on your map but not notice it

[thin stirrup]

im not getting ur point
why would the poison immediately get off of you if u kill the rogue?

[elfin plume]

lmaooooo

[warm tendon]

The mini map shows the module as empty, no content, just an empty square.

[knotty wadi]

To prevent trades? It's the same logic as to why burn shouldn't apply or explosion should end when the wizard dies

[elfin plume]

Why are trades bad?

[glass geyser]

im back theres 5 little piles of rocks around the spec room, none of them effect the player height to allow the horizantal swing to hit you

[elfin plume]

You got yourself killed

At that point the state of your opponent should not matter

[glass geyser]

they only effect the rat foprm because its smaller and its a large rock

[gritty pond]

wild take, if your logic is that its structured for casuals, then you arent making sense. a game made for casuals would remove poison effects once the threat has died. a game made for real players and competative gameplay, would let the poison run its course regardless if the person who inflicted it is still alive....what are you even trying to claim?

[elfin plume]

Trying to claim disability checks for brain damage

[gritty pond]

ths

[glass geyser]

@gritty pondbro your still here i went ate lucnh and did my test with spec, can you walk

smug a hole

sitting here harassin players with issues for an hour now

acting smug

suck being a parasite on a taint

[gritty pond]

or you could check chat and realize i jsut got out of a round and checked disc, which im allowed to do. why dont you neck yourself?

[glass geyser]

dudes stuck in a wheel chair

[knotty wadi]

This is exactly the opposite, a game made for casuals allows worse players to have more of an edge based on unbalanced mechanics, such as poison ticking after death. A comp game would reward a good player for winning or making better plays, have you ever competed in a game at a high level or been apart of a balancing team?

[glass geyser]

excuse me was that a physiacl threat

i might need to report you have fun with your ban

[thin stirrup]

dark and darker isnt for casuals
if someone dies to a rogue after killing them, they played bad

[glass geyser]

did you just tell me to hurt my self

[steel valve]

Nerf lock fr

[gritty pond]

so your logic is to make the game harder, by removing the extra damage that the game should apply, because youre POISONED. so do less damage to the player, makes the game harder

[elfin plume]

lmao
what benefit does the dead player have
They are dead

[thin stirrup]

u mean halberd

[knotty wadi]

This game has a huge teaming problem which allows for a dead player to get more value by letting their poison tick and even get a trade which allows their teammate to go loot the dead player instead of getting a reset. Even without taking the teaming into account the dead player loses their kit after they win a fight but because of the poison it results in a trade that doesn't benefit either players which is just a stupid mechanic in the first place

[elfin plume]

unintended gameplay mechanic

[steel valve]

nah fck that class as a whole

[spiral totem]

but it feels so good to get that trade when you die and watch them die on the kill cam...

[elfin plume]

"hey guys did you know the game is unbalanced when 16 dudes fight 1 guy crazy right devs stupid"

[gritty pond]

explain how poison still hitting me, because i let myself get poisoned by letting myself get hit. how is that unbalanced mechanic. your reward is not being poinsoned because you blocked or dodged the poison. youre rewarding casuals by nerfing poison damage. they dont even have to think about it at that point lol

[glass geyser]

@zinc sparrow @minor peak @frail merlin ImStrength [MꚘN], Role icon, Barbarian — 1:02 PM
or you could check chat and realize i jsut got out of a round and checked disc, which im allowed to do. why dont you neck yourself?

got anything to say here iron mace

[knotty wadi]

It is exactly made for casuals, which is why halberd fighter is broken, landmine rogue is a thing, PDR is unbalanced, boss griefing is a thing still instead of a lockout mechanic, I can go on for a while but they balance the game around people who suck and it has been shown throughout the history of dark

[thin stirrup]

loll

[glass geyser]

dont even type lil boy

[gritty pond]

if the game is so broken why bother playing it? if the balance is such garbage and nonthing works right? whats the sense of complaining here about it? you think they are going to completely change the meta and respec and balance the entire game just based on some discord comments?

i highly disagree with your take on "made for casuals"

[quasi plover]

anytime i run an artifact im pushed off spawn its comical

[gritty pond]

at best youll see some stats adjusted a point or two the other direction, and only on a few problem items at a time. and people always complain no matter which way you adjust things

[knotty wadi]

Why would someone who sees the insane potential in a game and enjoys playing it want the game to be more balanced? Are we really suggesting that? It's people like you that suggest this when games are going downhill instead of trying to suggest balancing points to turn the game around. This game has a clear intended audience on who they balance the game around and if you don't realise that then your part of that audience lmao

[glass geyser]

@gritty pond ok so if you see something wrong dont try and fix it with complaints just let it be??? good logic

you are literal human garbage

i think i saw you in the original blade movie as the dude who gets cooked outside frosts place the guy on the bed who blade cooks with uv

yea that fat fuk

go for a roll on your rascal mobility scooter bro

[neat urchin]

what a fkn weirdo lol

[gritty pond]

the audience isnt casuals, theres plenty of end game content that casual players cant even entertain doing because its swamped with people who play 10+ hours a day.

the whole argument "poison ticking after death is made for casuals" is literally the opposite of what that mechanic is, stop letting yourself get poisoned if you dont like the poison tick. removing it after the assailant is dead, makes zero logical sense and only caters to casual players who can barely secure the kill.

youre not wrong about PDR being broken

Halberd are OP

LS reposte is OP

but theres skill gaps is the use of those mechanics. if you dont know how to block or parry, dodge or avoid damage., you get punished for it. in a casual game this would not be the case. it would be extremely forgiving in pvp situations and missing a single block or parry literally means the difference between winning in pvp and losing right now. thats not for casuals.

[knotty wadi]

I think this whole discussion can be ended with a simple question; Do you think trading should exist in this game? If the answer is yes then I know where you stand on the spectrum because that's what this boils down to

[spiral totem]

any bards chim in for a min? How are you killing cyclpose and troll so fast? They are dieing mid animation, mine always fall normally when they die.

[soft wolf]

Shriek and dps them

[spiral totem]

Im in legendary gear for the most part, I do shriek them but still seems slow compaird to some

[warm tendon]

Okay I've asked this before but when will they fix casters? Wizards and Sorcs primarily? Why do i have to fight bosses with melee builds? I am a caster, not a fighter. Please do something about this it makes no sense.

[elfin plume]

Large target, hard to miss spells on, large health pools

[hasty creek]

What tf do you expect them to do? It is what it is you're not meant to be a frontliner who is good at pve

[warm tendon]

yeah my point, but if I want to boss i need to build a kit like that. Have you every tried killing any boss with just spells? It is either not possible or extremely painful.

[uneven basalt]

wheres the armory module. what does it look like

[glass geyser]

gold pile room

[full whale]

i have a quest from huntress to kill 3 seawalkers but i can only find tidewalkers, any tips?

[glass geyser]

got 2 gates on the sides with 2 doors

[warm tendon]

Use a tool like DaD Tracker Maps

[glass geyser]

has 2 bats and a skelly in it

[torpid root]

what do you do when you cant claim the drops?

[uneven basalt]

holy save didnt know this existed

[warm tendon]

There is also the spellsandguns one but I think this one is a bit more uip to date

[brittle ivy]

do you not get dungeon recovery if you die to void...?

[uneven basalt]

preciate you

[uneven basalt]

u do not unfortunatly

[brittle ivy]

lies it just came in finally

[uneven basalt]

o shiz my bad

[uneven basalt]

been a while since i even played ice abyss

[brittle ivy]

I thought they fixed it, was just super slow

wasn't ice abyss

inferno

[floral pendant]

Two weeks to code in a branching queue system into arena what da heeeeeeeeelll cant wait to play arena for 9 days total this wipe

[amber bane]

Og hurry up with arenas only dark and darker takes months to work on shit that was already working

[atomic bronze]

its ilegal to help other teams as faustian ?

[deft lintel]

No

[quasi plover]

does dark enhancement affect dark reflection

[random echo]

yesterday my power went out mid match. my teamamtes got my gear set they said it was sent back to me. any idea where i can i find it? is it just gone?

[warm tendon]

Yes

[warm tendon]

The expressman or goblin merchant should have it, make sure to check all their tabs. It will not return any gear you found in that match, only gear you came in with that was extracted with by your friends.

[random echo]

i thought so. i checked and neither of them had it. I was only gone for about an hour. very weird

[warm tendon]

You could have just missed it, believe the window might be very short.

[cold radish]

What are y'all doing to maximize gold return right now? I used to farm wendigo hearts but those aren't valuable right now it seems

[lyric bough]

I play SR exclusively so I'm filthy rich with more money than I know what to do with 😛

[grizzled citrus]

that was just a scapegoat for whatever the real reason is.

[upbeat sleet]

someone needs to explain to me how to get better at the game
i just played a game of ranger in a normal lobby, i did really well and looted a lot of gear, then suddenly in crypts, fighter rogue pressing sprint and W key and they just 3 tapped me
i check they have 600+ fame and are fully blue + gem + bis enchants

how am i supposed to enjoy the game and get better at it if there's no fair matchmaking?

[worn pasture]

Anyone having issues connecting to game server?

[upbeat sleet]

i spectated them and they proceeded to do the same to another team who was probably in the same situation
i read that there were gear-related lobbies back in the days but i can't find them in the game anymore, if im full squire gear why am i facing full bis people?

[azure bronze]

ranger just sucks to play in squire tbh

[warped holly]

Squires to riches, norms without gear is going to be painful

[grizzled citrus]

thats the funny part. you suck until you dont anymore and then the game gets fun

[upbeat sleet]

i tried that mode but all my teammates run in 1v3 and then die and disconnect it's not fun + im playing with my duo we wanna train teamplay

[grizzled citrus]

same as tarkov

[austere panther]

you aren't lmao, there are barely any players you'll win against until you become slave to the meta.

[azure bronze]

Well Idk about the second half

[austere panther]

pick up a halberd and maybe you'll kill someone.

[tropic brook]

Life in korea must be easy asf cuz why is the worm still in the game and two infinitely tracks regardless of people

[upbeat sleet]

im tired of having to play halberd only i want to try new things out, why are you even allowed to be turbo bis in normals if all it drops is green blue and purple gear most of the time?

[warped holly]

Yeah they removed the gear score lobbies, your best bet is s2r, you can get some practice in. Teammates are hit or miss, sometimes u get id***s and other times u get decent ones

[tropic brook]

like nexon shoulda won if yall are gonna gut your own game smh

[grizzled citrus]

its blue gar brother. its not turbo bis

you can play 2 games and have all blue gear and the gems to socket

[upbeat sleet]

they had perfect enchants, 2 rings and necklace im sorry but it's the most bis u could've gotten in norms everything was perfectly tuned

[austere panther]

because Normals is like playing casual on any other game, all the great players who sweat their asses in ranked modes use the casuals for tryouts.

[upbeat sleet]

i just don't understand the goal of the game or the game loop

[spiral totem]

when can I name my stash tabs?

[upbeat sleet]

like im legit confused how u play this game

[austere panther]

get in, farm loot for someone to kill you and enjoy your loot

[upbeat sleet]

that sounds like an awful experience, there's no way this is true

[spiral totem]

go in and try not to die to PVE, get gear and loot to take out and keep or sell. when you have gear and you dont die to PVE a lot, then go to normals and learn PVP and use the gear you stored.

and Squire Royal is great too

[cold radish]

You can get enough gold from a single PvE run for a competitive blue normals kit it's not rocket science

[upbeat sleet]

so im supposed to stay in PvE until i have enough ressources to build kits and then use those kits in normals and fully bis myself out? is that right?

[grizzled citrus]

just avoid people until you have a socketed kit if you are worried about the gear diff. all you can do is play until you start rolling

[austere panther]

if you don't manage to kill anyone then they kill you, you get spotted they chase you down until you're 2 rooms ahead of them or you are dead.

[spiral totem]

you can go in with nothing, but it is easier to go in with gear, and in PVE you dont loose the gear you die with so its a nice place to learn

and you dont HAVE to stay PVE, you can do PVP and just learn there. just a steeper learning curve.

[grizzled citrus]

i take squire into normals all the time and come out with someone elses kit. I have alot of hrs though so its different for me.

[austere panther]

I love the game but if you don't play the best gear, or the best skills. there is no in between for any of the modes

[tame elbow]

workshops are extremely expensive and not worth it at all, who else thinks like this?

[austere panther]

they're good for min-maxxing sweats who have nothing better to do

[spiral totem]

I got all mine up to the point I can turn blue to purple and reroll purples. I liked it because I can make blue BIS into arena BIS and I rerolled my thorn shield until I got a decent stat.

basically what @austere panther said lol

but it only took me an afternoon so it wasn't rly that bad.

[upbeat sleet]

i really hate this thing of no in between, especially as a new player
either u face people that are full squire so after a hard-fought battle u loot nothing
or u face people that are fully socketed and u have 0 chance at beating them

i would build kits but i still have no clue how to do that and i can't find the ressources to help

[austere panther]

yeah they don't exist

[cunning dome]

why cant i create a trios call'

[grizzled citrus]

nothjng to it but to do it

[spiral totem]

dont worry about building kits, get loot and gear in PVE, learn to kill ppl in SR and have fun, try to laugh at the stupid moments.

[grizzled citrus]

you gotta play and fail... Alot

[austere panther]

best advice is if you want to kit, build what your character needs, either strength and vigor for melee or vigor knowledge and will for casters

[upbeat sleet]

i have a serious question for everyone here
how many hours did it take u in the game until u finally reached the point of feeling like a skilled player and winning more than average? 300? 500? 1000?

this isn't a flex im genuinely wondering

[austere panther]

I've got around 500 and I'm considered as a noob still.

[spiral totem]

like 500-800 before I was getting out almost everytime, but still loosing a lot of PVP battles, the games not easy lol

[grizzled citrus]

500-1k. im at almosk 6k now

[austere panther]

I'm escaping the dungeons but I'm barely able to kill a first floor boss before someone comes to kill me

[upbeat sleet]

:/

[spiral totem]

6k is wild, I'm at 1600 now.

[upbeat sleet]

this is depressing

[sturdy coral]

it’s alright it’s a journey

[austere panther]

yep it is

[spiral totem]

dont let it deter you, just go in and let the game hook you as you pull gear and the gamba pays off

[tropic brook]

Scrap the game deadass

[grizzled citrus]

I know man. im a glutton for punishment

[small jewel]

I have the armor fragment but I can't turn it in?

do i need to loot it?

[austere panther]

because every meta shift if you aren't part of it you're against it and it's gotten to the point I've been thinking of quitting multiple times but love of the genre and style keep me here

[sturdy coral]

the mastery in this game has so many facets … you can be “good” and lose PvP battles, you can be “good” and die to PvE

[spiral totem]

yeah new season meta... I stopped fighting it and started to embrace it. unless it has anything to do with a druid lol

[grizzled citrus]

damn spiders...

[old spindle]

About 20. Most of it was pve related but pvp wise I didn't have any issues as I have a lot of experience in Mordhua for melee.

[upbeat sleet]

i heard a lot of different people have this take, is it really true that everything non-meta is basically garbage because u just get rolled by meta?

[dusky gyro]

About 1k hours in you will feel better about fighting. About 3k in you feel confident in most fights. I’m 7k in and still lose all the time. Even chads die

[sturdy coral]

no it’s just cope lol

[spiral totem]

not garbage, just not meta. you can make any class work but each new season or perk is a bit over tuned at first and a lot of people flock to it.

[sturdy coral]

the meta in this game moves so slowly you can easily find a niche counter to any popular build that works for YOU as a player

[austere panther]

I blocked and parried a halberd (current meta) and regardless they swung through the attack and killed me with two swings of their weapon before I got close enough to hit them.

[lost tinsel]

🫂

[grizzled citrus]

the game is mostly designed in a rock, paper,scissors fassion. pick your battles at first for sure

[dusky gyro]

You need to bait out the swings. The reset on the combo takes a while and is how you gap halberd players

[austere panther]

yeah I wanted to play halberd for a bit because I loved the weapon, yet it felt so disgusting to use.

[sturdy coral]

🫂

[spiral totem]

I hear that but you have to right now.. exp if you play water map. only thing a fighter can use is halbard and longbow or u get swept

[austere panther]

I baited the swing, I dodged the thrust but he swiped it into my ribs and that's game.

[sturdy coral]

with how slow weapons move in water, a proper parry weapon will work really well against halberd

[austere panther]

that's bs, sword and shield work fine. and longsword is still great.

people just once again have stopped trying to play the game and just want kills

[spiral totem]

I had one too many rangers take me out, found the halbard had that extra reach with sprint to reach them

and Im in here for the loot, not the PVP

🪙

[austere panther]

fair especially water map but then don't play it until they fix it.

[spiral totem]

I cant stoppp 😭 lol

[austere panther]

I love water map too but it's just unplayable when the meta moves like it does. The map is unplayable and barely enjoyable.

except when it's quiet, then you can enjoy it.

[spiral totem]

👍

[austere panther]

if people are going to be so toxic on every mode they need to introduce a new mode or make PvE artefact farmable with lowered chances or something.

[spiral totem]

yeah, the people who just RUSH to PVP make my experience less fun.. but thats how they make their experience more fun and who am I to tell them how to play the game lol

[civic iris]

@upbeat sleet how has it gone so far?

[upbeat sleet]

:c

i have to say it, the people here are nice and they have convinced me that the game deserves more chances, so instead of swapping to my halberd platelock i'm trying to play bonk mage to see where that gets me, but i can't lie the idea of having to stay in PvE to not get punished by people that know how to build kits or the fact that i have to force myself into squire royale and pray to get good teammates just to have fun is demoralizing

im very... im a wow altruist in a sense so it's hard for me to pick any class and stick to it

[austere panther]

yeah but it's just so boring, the PvP just feel like trying to drink 50 Litres of pure honey.

[edgy sable]

It takes dark and darker devs 3 months to make a skill like first aid for ranger

[steady creek]

what rooms do you go to for the boss rooms in gob caves

[austere panther]

yeah don't expect WoW, this game is far too PvP based, no choices just kill everyone to the point "friendly encounters" have become banned.

[edgy sable]

Ban teaming and then wonder why only jerks are left

[austere panther]

literally, it would be fine to ban teaming but banning friendly encounters is stupid

[upbeat sleet]

no i meant wow in the sense that i played a lot of alts (secondary characters) on there cuz i couldn't stick to a class easily, and it's the same here, dw i know this game is far from wow and im grateful haha

[spiral totem]

when they added that rule about friendly encounters could be bannable that was an L, when we had the gathering hall before games and could chat and stuff it was awesome.

[edgy sable]

BIG YUP - GATHERING HALL REMEMBERS KNOW

[austere panther]

also quick pointer, there is no rules list. You don't get to know what's bannable until you get caught.

[edgy sable]

says on high roller no teaming allowed, technically teaming is allowed in normals

i think it says 'no friendly encounters' or something now

[austere panther]

the tavern needs to come back and teaming and friendly encounters need to come off the ban list.

[upbeat sleet]

it's okay
i spam crouch and do friendly encounters all the time simply because i know i would lose the fight if i engaged it, if interacting with a player for the sake of survival is a bannable offense i will uninstall the day i get banned ^^

[edgy sable]

imagine two clerics see eachother and there's a warlock but iron mace has deteremined the clerics would never work together against the warloc and it must be a death match last man standing

[spiral totem]

this is the vision

[edgy sable]

(ive done this every season too lol but its lame their stance is otherwise)

[austere panther]

imagine a religion system built with backstory and archetypes and then saying there are no teams.

the entire religion system has different goals and different views on attacking other people.

[spiral totem]

While also tracking kills bettween and within the religions..

[edgy sable]

yes that would be a little bit better than just money sink. a LITTLE (lol)

little = lot

[spiral totem]

200K this season for the damn skin... wtf

[edgy sable]

SPEND 20K FOR 10 COBALT

[austere panther]

religion rework, rewards per player of an opposing religion you kill. would be an interesting change

but people would complain about that too

[upbeat sleet]

i mean it is what it is
in ff14 (the mmo) their stance is mods are a bannable offense, yet 80% of players mod and some have over 100+ mods installed
some games have stances for various reasons (because ethically / morally it makes sense) yet they don't actually ban unless u mess up hard

[austere panther]

not even ingots is a scam

[tidal crescent]

is it possible to change the stats of artifacts?

[austere panther]

yeah, the game shouldn't call it teaming and it shouldn't be bannable though, it's as unfair as the rest of the game and I'd call it strategy rather than teaming but unfortunately the game is playing to it's whiney community and their beliefs so they can get into pro gaming.

[upbeat sleet]

but if 2 people specifically queue at the same time all the time to get into lobbies together and then they team up 2v1 against every guy, shouldn't that be bannable?

[austere panther]

yes, but also should be statistically unlikely due to multiple instances running at same times

[upbeat sleet]

so it's good that it's bannable then

[austere panther]

not if they don't enforce it

[old spindle]

does socketing gems on a weapon change the value of it

[summer umbra]

Does the item keep its stats when you craft from it smth else

For example if I have long sword with +2 ad weapon, and I wanna craft spectral blade from it, will the spectral blade have +2 ad weapon as well or it will get new random stats?

[austere panther]

I don't think so, I know workstations keep their stats when upgrading but not sure about smiths

[livid onyx]

Non combative isn't bannable, as long as you don't fight PvE or PvP with someone, it's not against the rules. The wardens clarified this when players were going crazy over the vagueness of the rule .

[sturdy coral]

it can, especially if you brick it with a low roll gem

[hazy token]

does any one know when is they are going to release the next set of quests?

[livid onyx]

I push the limits of " no friendly" by being a stalker, I avoid combat with players while just stalking them with a torch in hand while they do bosses or PvP.

[austere panther]

I get that point of view and should definitely be considered but I feel like if it wasn't bannable then the community would wage wars versus the teamers anyways

[old spindle]

So like if I had a survival bow with +3 phys power and +2 weapon add and a third roll what would I add to make it valuable

[civic iris]

They're only banned for high-roller where people are meant to compete more. While I agree it shouldn't be banned, please make sure when you say stuff like this that it is a bit clearer

[sharp crow]

where is the golden key room if there is no colosseum tile?

[livid onyx]

True, but as long as you're not actively teaming with players or helping players kill PvE, it's not against the rules

[sturdy coral]

armor pen or action speed I would think. but the variance is pretty high

[austere panther]

imagine killing bots as a team being against the rules

[livid onyx]

I remember when teaming wasn't banned, it took a whole group of squire players to take down Ruby silver fighters in the goblin caves

[austere panther]

so using my holy purification near another player is borderline teaming

[livid onyx]

Potentially yeah, fun isn't it xD

[winter tinsel]

"Use Great potion of luck" This quest is HR only. Anyone know of others?

[livid onyx]

Adventure mode

[winter tinsel]

oh frock you right

[fiery sigil]

Can i pull seal of dominion in normals?

[steady creek]

yeah imagine you grinded for a rubysilver kit and you get gang banged by 4 people

like how does that seem fun or fair

[wraith wigeon]

Literally embarrassing when a player yells at you in HR about non-friendly encounters being illegal or whatever. Like, how!? How is a platform like this going to universally support that policy? Do you never expect the game to get bigger than it is? Because that’s the only way. With a few thousand players, your measly helpdesk can scale that level of enforcement. But if this game ever got to millions of players, good luck. Bad policy, bad design.

[livid onyx]

When normals didn't have a gear limit, Ruby silver players bullied tf out of timmies

[sturdy coral]

yeah so they should do nothing?? great idea

[old spindle]

Got 2.3% action speed, its 0.1% away from perfect

[livid onyx]

So no rules against teaming meant we'd rally against the guy with 4 kills in the feed and pick him apart like Hyenas

[sturdy coral]

the threat alone of a ban is enough to deter 90% of people

[sturdy coral]

oh buddy that’s juicy

[wraith wigeon]

Let them team.

[sturdy coral]

ppl who don’t run kits be like

[winter tinsel]

that's been happening since season 1 even with the teaming ban rules

[sturdy coral]

yes the wiki has the details for this

[wraith wigeon]

Sweaty players be like

[winter tinsel]

back then everyone held hands and rode into the sunshine together

[austere panther]

yeah because it's funny and 50% of the time they'd win a 1v5

[sturdy coral]

it protects Timmy more than sweats honestly. imagine you spent 20 hours putting a kit together piece by piece just to get ganged by a few Chinese players looking for an easy target

[fiery sigil]

Can i pull seal of dominion in normals?

[wraith wigeon]

Why it’s gotta be Chinese dawg?

[winter tinsel]

it was annoying bc you'd dare to pvp and suddenly 5 ppl would chase you across the entire map for not being friendly

[loud creek]

they are known to team regardless of the rules

[sturdy coral]

I said imagine, makes the scenario a bit more realistic

universal pre team ban was basically made because of Chinese squads sniping their buddies en-masse

[loud creek]

that said, apply each scenario at face value and report it if it actually happens

idk, teaming in HR has always been a point of topic since S1. Personally, i just kill whoever I see in solos HR, no regrets, it's w/e. People know what they sign up for and I wont be losing sleep over it

[minor saddle]

You know you’ve made it when Chinese team 6 hunts you down

[austere panther]

yeah but it still makes it more fun that what the game is now

[fiery sigil]

Can i pull seal of dominion in normals?

[loud creek]

i've had games where I make it out alive or die all the same in HR solos, the difference is that I never get betrayed so its fine with me lol

[winter tinsel]

I wouldn't know, haven't played HR in weeks ^^ norms are fun tho

[hard pelican]

I got hunted down like a rapid dog when I was wearing mostly blues in HR one time by Chinese players they honestly hunt anyone😭

[livid onyx]

I'm neutral in HR most of the time, it's fun to have moments where people question what they're actually doing in the dungeon. Especially when people risk their whole kits to kill squire players. I get so many geared players killed when I'm in boof and for what?

[loud creek]

i mean if im running a 700+ gs kit im not teaming or trusting anyone

[minor saddle]

They thought you were a problem that’s a dub

[loud creek]

ive made it out of HR plenty, died in HR plenty, but never was I betrayed and im totally fine with that

[sturdy coral]

you might wanna ask in the wiki discord for the data mine stat, but theoretically yes since it’s legendary

[hard pelican]

Idk why people in giga juice run at squire kits I was doing a zero 2 hero on sorc earlier today and got a juiced melee sorc to like 15% hp before he killed me after he chased me for 5 minutes through 6 doors

[minor saddle]

I still remember getting betrayed 4 seasons ago it hurts worse than getting out skilled

[hard pelican]

Like if you see someone with no cape what possesses you to chase them that hard in HR

[minor saddle]

Cool kid points

[livid onyx]

Most players don't run a risk assessment, they just wanna run people down, I have a clip of someone who I got killed over the weekend, he was a giga juiced fighter, who died chasing me because he wanted my banshee loot. I was base gear lmao

[loud creek]

lol its definitely the unexpected that hits harder than getting outplayed. I dont think HR is meant for teaming or helping anyways, for me its high risk high reward, and I intend to lower risk as much as possible

if i die one on one, its gg go next

[hard pelican]

I love it when this happens lol

[loud creek]

but dying because i 'trusted' someone? ah hell nah i hate that ish so much

[hard pelican]

Specially when they run you down when you’re in boof or squire you get them low and watch them die to the 3rd party

[livid onyx]

The way I play, it happens too often I've got another clip of a barb dying basically to PvE while chasing me and I finish him off

[hard pelican]

The only time I kill anyone on sight when I’m running juice in HR is when I’m playing rouge

[minor saddle]

Run through every mob while they hunt you down that way when they are looting your squire kit they get 1 tapped by a nightmare halberd

[hard pelican]

This is the method

[loud creek]

it sounds mean i know but i make it clear if the person is trying to 'neutral' in HR i clearly say i aint here for friends, square up

u q'd up to HR, either you die or I die, lets go

dont have any regrets

[austere panther]

if you're wearing Bis or get lucky they yeah, 90% of the time it's meta slaves rubbing their halberds between their legs riding it like they want to be praised

[loud creek]

if I die because i trusted someone, i'll regret that for sure LMFAO

[hard pelican]

I don’t try to even be neutral or make friends if I’m not in a kit that’s good for pvp like a squire kit I just full on run away and idk i think it’s pretty obvious when someone is in squire I don’t understand why people chase

[lofty hemlock]

IS ANYONE ELSE LAGGING

THE RUBBERBAND IS OUT OF CONTROL MAN

[grand shadow]

Is there an easier way to tell which direction the Banshees is charging from? I can't tell at all from the audio queue

[lofty hemlock]

less than 10k ppl online, 5k in dungeon, and the servers cant handle the load?

[hard pelican]

Audio is the best honestly

[loud creek]

i mean its up to players at the end of the day- i dont personally mind people being neutral i dont care; for me I gotta square up with whoever I meet

just lowers 'risk' or ratting or 3rd partying, etc

[livid onyx]

Yeah when I'm rogue and sometimes warlock, I'm Larping an evil person

[hard pelican]

I have no problem with that i just cant understand why people risk 30k gold kits to run down squires

[loud creek]

yeaah I mean... well.. it's HR

sometimes they don't wanna take risks with that kinda kit

and i dont blame thme

[livid onyx]

Would you feel bad if you died chasing a squire kit player xD

[austere panther]

how else do you get artefacts?

[hard pelican]

That's the thing chasing down a squire through 6 modules does nothing but increase the risk of losing said kit

[loud creek]

nope cause it was my choice and I got outplayed

waay better than getting betrayed lol

[minor saddle]

Really wish they would release arena already as soon as I seen that announcement i immediately started to feel burnt out

[livid onyx]

Trusting yourself to not lose and being wrong is the same as betrayal for me.

[minor saddle]

Trynna go on my 0-10 streak

[loud creek]

no it doesnt because if you can theoretically kill as much players as you can, you'll technically lower risk overall due to less sound, less doors opened, more concealment, smoother rotations, and undisturbed mobs

and if im in a bard HR kit anyways

im pretty fast to catch squire kitters

[austere panther]

yes you can do S2R but it's constantly full of sweaty boss farmers and it's not fun taking 5 minutes of your 10 minute lobby for you to get 2 tapped by halberd users or getting pushed out by zone

[livid onyx]

At least when they betray me I know their soul is hurting. The new "Stop ssstop" emote is golden for neutral HR play

[loud creek]

the point is, people have the wrong mindset when queueing into HR solos with squire kits

[white meadow]

The ending of Squire Royale needs to be tweaked. It should be an actual battle royale and last team standing wins and gets to get out. Get rid of the three portals.

[loud creek]

you shouldn't be given grace imo

thats what PvE or norms are for*

[livid onyx]

My point is, everyone can do whatever they want, and if you want to be a neutral "rat" there's nothing wrong with trying to kill rats or be one yourself.

[minor saddle]

I don’t even know what the point is of squire hr anymore the loot is mid unless you farm boss and you shouldn’t need ap that badly it’s way 2 easy to hit Demi rn

[loud creek]

nothing will stop you from queuing from HR with squire kits and personally I dont care but you also need to accept that you WILL come across someone with boof kit and you will absolutely be disadvantaged and at their mercy

if they let you live, totally cool lol

but dont get mad when they dont

is my point

[livid onyx]

Chase squire kits all you want, the risk assessment is my ultimate goal, I don't waste my time on squires unless they get in my way, and as a squire I will for damn sure waste yours or worse get you killed in the most hilarious fashion.

[winter tinsel]

ye sounds annoying tbh haha. Norms have a good variety rn it seems, more stuff is viable

[austere panther]

my opinion, everyone should be given equal rights to play for any rarity of loot, idc if it's lower but PvE should get artefacts too

[weary trench]

is there a sort of gear based match making in hr? if you go in geared are you more likely to be against gear?

[loud creek]

yeah i mean i dont get it either- you can literally just loot 3 rooms in norms ruins or go to sea map solo which only has like, what, 3 players in it per match? lmfao

get decent blues, queue to HR

[austere panther]

yeah I don't bother playing norms because it's a pisstake if all we get is the same as pve

[livid onyx]

I think account locked artifact drops for PvE with super low drop rates is fine

[austere panther]

don't bother limiting it just drop the rates by half

[livid onyx]

Had to be limited for irl gold farmers

[twilit crag]

just remove pve mode

[austere panther]

they'd need to remove teaming bans

[twilit crag]

player numbers are low enough already

[austere panther]

because nobody pvping is willing to go easy on new players

[edgy sable]

Yea lol . Can't let them force me to kill every guy I see

[livid onyx]

I don't want them to go easy, it's their choice, but I should be able to run around the map warning players of the dangerous traveler.

[loud creek]

I personally think the Discord is very conveinient for newer players to find experienced players to play with

and from what I know the knights program is supposed to help

back in the day it was completely useless and was more flair than anything

[edgy sable]

Yes its like the ecosystem they created is people that will kill you instead of feel like it was NO challenge to kill a complete noob. I don't get a sense of acocmplishment from a fighting a guy and i t's not even close

Party finder is pretty cool, should've had that in beta like 3 years ago especially since how simple it is

[austere panther]

I've never seen a low enough cortisol player willing enough to bother trying new players, everyone requests 1k hours + for S2R on LFG channels

[livid onyx]

Too many players in this game gatekeep, I actually teach classes on cave troll and spectral knight from time to time in LFG channel

[spiral totem]

its cool until people start kicking you out of their parties, then it just feels like highschool all over again.. lol

[loud creek]

hah, not sure- when i just fill here in discord LFG for s2r, i sometimes get players that say if its cool that they are new and i dont care much

not sure how it is for everyone else

i think s2r is a good place to learn combat anyways. Solos HR? no

[austere panther]

yeah there's no remorse, someone tried insulting me earlier and thought it was ragebait when I reminded him apologies are polite.

[grand shadow]

How come in Squire Royal we were able to just crouch look up to completely kill the Banshee but when I solo her in Adventure mode, I get damaged while crouched? Is she different in SR?

[austere panther]

people say it's fine and then get all pissy after they lose, there's a difference between being fine and being welcoming

[solemn merlin]

dude when squire fighter gets nerved every loby consists of 20 of them

[livid onyx]

They just got a proxy buff because base kit plate got nerfed but fighters with defense mastery/taunt are even stronger by comparison to warlocks and clerics.

[edgy sable]

give fighters the nerve gas!

[loud creek]

i think part of the problem is that the game is somewhat niche to the point where the majority of the population is Veterans yeah

also these people gotta change their mindset too- if theres a newer player in the lobby, acknowledge that and if they arent okay with it then they should make it clear and dip lol

communication is key af

[edgy sable]

fighters just like the NOOB class tbh

good luck loading up ranger as a NOOB

[austere panther]

yes but people don't believe in communication and even the game doubts it's community and has the VOIP disabled by default

[white meadow]

How do we feel about the Squire Royale ending?

[pallid hemlock]

Holy W, Ironboof is just made of W's

[swift leaf]

Does anyone else only get frontline fighters when they are a frontline fighter

[edgy sable]

choatic gang bang at the end of like 4 teams coming out of the shadows for a death battle.

[austere panther]

fuck no, for me it's the quiet team versus the loud team who've got bis from floor one in their meta comp

[white meadow]

Sometimes. Sometimes blues are in a spot where one team can take them without contest before anyone else can react.

[pallid hemlock]

imagine if druid was never busted and people werent constantly teaming druids, or if SDF didnt main druid

its so sad that SDF is basically gone but still did permanent damage to the game

[white meadow]

What about a straight up fair fight 3v3 and one team wins, but someone on their team dies... Now he's sol.

idk the ending seems anti-climatic and annoying...

[spiral totem]

yeah, there was a point where SDF was playing a class and it was buffed up, then a new class came out and he switched and buffed that one and the old one was nurfed.. that parts is a real shame.

[livid onyx]

I think squire royal proves that most players have "gear fear" of "gear loss grief" that squire to riches doesn't have. If they could create a mode that is similar to arena where you cant lose "self found" gear but still play the normal game loop it would be cool.

[white meadow]

You're talking about the mode in general, not the ending?

[dusty vapor]

fuck any one of you that plays buckler bard

[wraith wigeon]

Anyone can just load in with halbread and be a pro now

[uncut crag]

What are you trying to solve for that squire royal and arena don’t already?

[grand shadow]

No, it proves that getting run down by a 100/100 gigabised out squad of cheaters isn't fun when you start the match with 60-80/100 set of gear

[white meadow]

You think people are cheating in SR?

To get gear?

[grand shadow]

you mean NOT cheating, right?

[white meadow]

???

[pallid hemlock]

i think old squire to riches was perfect, people just hated water map and instant seppukud like 10% of the time, devs got salty and said "yall get scuffed ruins then"

[spiral totem]

I seen a guy with 471 luck, but my best calculation from his gear was 71 so idk how he would ever get the other 400

[white meadow]

For those just now tuning in, the original question was "How do we feel about the squire royale ending?"

[hard pelican]

No cheats are gonna give you stats in this game

The cheats are fairly basic

[spiral totem]

its amazing ❤️

[wraith wigeon]

This is the only good part of the game. Why are the developers like this?

[white meadow]

Personally I think they should get rid of the three portals and it should be an actual royale where the last team standing wins. Dead teammates rez and they get like 3 minutes to loot or something.

[pallid hemlock]

the age old question

[livid onyx]

Mhm

[spiral totem]

kinda like arena ending? where cicele comes in, kills and then expands for a final shrinking where you get to loot?

[white meadow]

Yep

[spiral totem]

yeah, that could be cool

[grand shadow]

I'm maximizing my playtime in Squire Royal right now because I know they will ruin it soon

[pure trout]

can they please nerf surv bow ranger like bro

[white meadow]

It just doesn't feel good to go through an entire run with a team and then in the last fight one of your teammates dies and theres no way you can rez them.

[pure trout]

its so cancer like last season

[austere panther]

I think if they want zone they need to make end area the boss fight on each floor or the joint pile room for banshee and spectral.

[pure trout]

surv bow ranger with 6 add is just straight cancer and theres little to no coutners to that shit

[livid onyx]

Which is why I'd love for a mode where you can't lose self found gear, capped at purple/ legendary. People can loot your gear after killing you but you always get it recovered, the players just get your recovery fee from goblin. Where the whole point is you're not going to lose your BIS kit, but the loot isn't as good as HR. I know the devs want less modes where gear isn't deleted but they already have PvE mode which doesn't prepare people for HR combat.

[white meadow]

Also with the way the modules are, I was in with 2 randoms and they had to be sub 100 hours in the game. Yet we still managed to win because blues spawned on us and we got out before anyone else could even get to us thanks to high magical interaction speed. It was nice for us, but ZERO counter play for the other players. Doesn't feel good.

[proven nymph]

As long as ive been playing this game and it finally hit me. Where tf is my redguard character.

[grand shadow]

Nah, the gear is irrelevant that's what people don't understand. Even at the end of the wipe when you have several stash tabs full of gear, playing HR with it just sucks. The gameplay is bad. This game is meant to be slow paced, being able to completely blow through rooms, bosses, and players because you're supergeared is miserable to play against but also really sucks to play.

[livid onyx]

They made it even faster by nerfing sub bosses, half the nightmare mobs are scarier than sub bosses now

[proven nymph]

I need a ninja from the sound village twitch drop asap

[livid onyx]

If they're going the route of making it easier for casuals, then the gear gap needs to be nerfed AGAIN.

[next epoch]

MOM

[strong coyote]

is there a quest that gives a gold coin chest?>

[pure trout]

1 goblin cave run 3 Melenilla wannabe's and 2 rogues with hide and dualstrike like this game is ending fr

[chilly osprey]

do new quests come out tonight?

[livid onyx]

Reduce the gear gap even more if you want to make the game easier. They reduced a lot of rolls this wipe like MH and added phys power. MORE MORE MORE

[livid onyx]

Who is Melenilla

[grand shadow]

It works out fine in SR because people have to get lucky to have a really good set of gear, usually they'll only have a couple good pieces or maybe 1 guy gets lucky on the team but his teamates are much weaker for example. The pacing could be slower but in general it is good enough. Playing HR is a completely different game, it's like playing URF in LoL, fun at first then gets boring super fast

[pure trout]

best ranger in eu and he only plays surv bow in gob cave

lost more than 200k in kits to that guy

but he also hits every shot

[vestal mountain]

He is the goat

[pure trout]

he is but surv bow ranger is also just cancer

[vestal mountain]

But plays super safe

[pure trout]

you do too much dmg and have 60% actionspeed

[vestal mountain]

The big C

Hop on iron will Barb with crush and it’s over for him

[old spindle]

What skills does he run

[vestal mountain]

Knockback quickshot

[gloomy marsh]

What is the best classes for solos, duos, and trios? Also arena.

[old spindle]

So he just runs against barbs then

[vestal mountain]

Lol

[gloomy marsh]

Why lol

[pure trout]

he 6 shots any barb

[old spindle]

Wtf is he dripped out or something

[pure trout]

i ran my ms barb against him and got shred before even being in close proximity

[gloomy marsh]

I wanna know what classes are good in each one there’s not videos on it

[pure trout]

you cant get near him without taking the full load

[vestal mountain]

The point blank perk is racist too

[old spindle]

Ehat perks is he running

Im assuming point and prob draw speed?

[pure trout]

they should've buffed druid this season to fulfill the cancer triangle or ranger rogue and druid

[vestal mountain]

Kinestesia one

Tracker prob

In solos

[old spindle]

Wouldnt a rogue or onetap ranger ruin him

[pure trout]

he wins against them anyway

that nolife bot imraiden tried and now everytime someone writes melenillas name in his chat they get banned

according to that frenchie "He is cheating and streamsniping"

[broken lynx]

how much does fulgor go for

[pure trout]

2 seals

[winter tinsel]

agreed, runs well these days too

[winter tinsel]

at least it's not barbarian meta

[pure trout]

rather have barb meta

they are so braindead and easy to parry

[winter tinsel]

ye cause half of them think they still auto win by default

[pure trout]

did they patch breakthrough coutnering knockback shot?

[heady spindle]

Anyone know why my game crashes during post game stat screen?

[proven grotto]

When do we get new sets of quests? :o

[chilly osprey]

idk but let me know if you find out

[lusty fossil]

ember gem dropable or nah

[cyan cloud]

what does getting collector affinity do

[formal tide]

How much is a seal going for chat?

[indigo valve]

@little summit can u deal with teaming useless dev

[vestal mountain]

Opinions on solo meta?

[indigo valve]

teaming

[keen mauve]

Every Thursdays I think

[last parrot]

how we feel about cleric rn?

[next epoch]

its busted op broken

[toxic lily]

Cleric still feels good

[vernal badger]

Plate lock with halberd

[last parrot]

is the response from fighters just to wait out the divine skill?

[vernal badger]

Yea, cant really kill them with dp up

[winter tinsel]

norms just about everything is viable. HR, seems like W key meatball builds are op

boc lock, dp cleric, adrenaline rush fighter

[obtuse pumice]

man they gotta fix overseer just flying to the edge and flamethrower so you cant dodge it, sureley that cant be intended to work that way

[honest cedar]

Gets ambushed by rogue and proceeds to run around and fight rogue off and win after 3 mins of back and forth

• cucccck in the corner jumps down and kills me right after
• this game is pure shttt

[indigo valve]

facts

[white meadow]

What's the solution here?

[pliant zinc]

bro i sent that back in february

[crude quiver]

It’s hard to do anything about to be honest,got teamed on by 2 barbs and a bard. I was lucky enough to take them out though.

[indigo valve]

its like a one day ban after 200 reports or something

like thats the worse ban policy ever created

[crude quiver]

I agree, it should be review based. Otherwise you can just get a bunch of bots to ban someone.

[tawny jackal]

did they change their high roller bios requirements or is my game buggin

[mental garden]

When are we going to either admit that people are cheating or there is something grossly wrong with damage or hit detection? Now people are just straight up standing in storm in squire royale, I get a full ambush on a cloth character, do about 6-8 hits and according to the death recap/after view I've done less than 15 damage. If there's an account achievement that allows for 500 extra hp let me know, otherwise the math doesn't work. This is with me fully geared druid, rogue, anything really, and people caught totally off guard are not able to be killed or take damage.

[fathom kayak]

what are some of the better classes for pvp and pve im struggling to figure out who to play?

[crude quiver]

Wait, norms or HR teaming?

[chilly osprey]

send me the clip

[indigo valve]

hr

[signal chasm]

me too tf

[indigo valve]

cant get banned for norms teamin

[signal chasm]

i did

[terse acorn]

any links which show rewards and unlocks per vendor quest? like what happens when i get high rep with collector etc

[crude quiver]

I know, but i still figure id check

Sucks being a rogue main sometimes, people usually focus me if they aren’t actively being struck.

[solemn stratus]

yo i got bot banned i need assistants

[pseudo blaze]

i stg mimics dont exist anymore this patch

[crude quiver]

Stg?

[pseudo blaze]

swear to god

[crude quiver]

Ah, they do I’ve fought plenty

[clear tapir]

they do

[honest cedar]

If you cuckkkk in a corner too long you simply get permently banned

• It's not reasonable
• Just sick of that playstyle flooding this game

[pseudo blaze]

ive looted hundreds of chests

no mimic

[clear tapir]

lol play call of duty

[edgy sable]

MIMIC SPAWN HIT IT UP

[clear tapir]

some spots have guaranteed mimics if you look it up

[indigo valve]

cs rogues are the number one teamers/ratters

[edgy sable]

DECIDE YOUR OWN FATE. VISIT THE MIMIC SPAWN TODAY.

[crude quiver]

I almost always get ratted by fighter and barb.

[pseudo blaze]

i cant get the crypts map to spawn with the mimic module is the issue

[crude quiver]

The entrance to banshee has a good chance of spawning one

[wintry fjord]

I've been playing around with my computer to figure out how to improve game performance on my computer. I've been trying to figure out what has been limiting my frame rate. Everything seems to be in the norm, and right now I'm tuning memory which seems to help. I'm not talking about changing setting but improving the computer to gain higher framerate. Anyone experiment to figure out what improves the game performance? My goal is 144fps at 1440p, trying to figure out which components to eventually buy to reach this goal. If you know any other forums to check or discords lmk. https://discordapp.com/channels/988365908009447485/1058379054304210984

[pseudo blaze]

ty ill try that

[clear tapir]

room to the right from bridge room has one, right above banshee

[pseudo blaze]

like the chest by the living armor?

[clear tapir]

no.. in banshee room

[crude quiver]

Before going down the steps

[clear tapir]

by stairs

[pseudo blaze]

ty

[clear tapir]

you can use bard shriek of weak to find them

[floral pendant]

wait you are allowed to do boss/hit pile on HR solos with a random? i got 2 judged reports from ppl not getting banned doing it

[feral karma]

Do you have a recording of the encounter?

[winter tinsel]

oh shit mb

[feral karma]

Why are we running?

[honest cedar]

Hey everyone

I have been strugging to adventure the dungeon solo

If anyone is willing to raid it dm me

[next epoch]

if you dont find anyone, solo queueing into s2r is super fun and ive only had good experiences with other randoms

[real shore]

how much is banshee's sonnet rn

[floral pendant]

2300

[remote ember]

what is everyones go to builds for druid? what do you focus and what stats are deemed useless?

[real shore]

is it worth farming?

[remote ember]

I fee like the spectral fabric is the same rate as a banshees sonnet but sells for 7-8k atm

[floral pendant]

up to you, probably worth in norms, probably not in HR unless you have others on your team and can do spec knight for artifact chance on the table too

[potent ridge]

guys my game freezing sometimes but im having not bad fps

is anybody have anything about that ?

[floral pendant]

yeah, might be a good safe farming method tho since banshee is uncontested 90% of the time

[remote ember]

true, plus learning banshee might be worth for hr getting both kills and hitting the pile

[floral pendant]

but there are 1000 different good farming methods this wipe and last wipe anyways

[floral pendant]

yeah ive wanted to learn banshee because it is the only boss in the game i havent learned LOL

• its pretty cool, just have never felt like it was worth doing on HR

[next epoch]

banshees super easy now, used to need to play the minigame of collecting 8 ghosts, now u only need to collect 4 to be completely immune to her skills

[floral pendant]

oh wut banshee is free then i gotta try it

[honest cedar]

Can sm1 tguide me i just started playing but i feel like m not growing stronger should i focus on completeing quests?

[floral pendant]

last time i really tried to learn was when she came out, but if the souls are easier now ill def do it just to learn fully

also holy obsidian must be a good farming method rn i was going to buy some for gear when arena comes out and its UP THERE

[edgy sable]

BIG OBSIDIANS!

religion be like: return 160k coins for 10 obisidan nuggets

[random echo]

when tf are we nerfing dual strike bro. that shit is braindead op

[floral pendant]

bis

[floral pendant]

is it? i thought it might not be that good because of the other rogue nerfs putting him underground

[random echo]

it is beyond busted

[meager hawk]

ambush armor pen and shit ton of damage

no pdr is saving yo ass

[floral pendant]

interesting ill have to try it out if i dont fight someone using it soon

[random echo]

it is prob the most broken thing in the game at the moment.

[tough field]

if they nerf it it is landmining all over again

[random echo]

most people just dont know aboput it yet

[uneven basalt]

is rupture or sneak attack better

[meager hawk]

Isn't it just stacking armor pen and additional weapon? I thought it's common

[random echo]

no that isnt the issue.

[vapid herald]

nice smite/judgement cleric still cancer after 2 years

[floral pendant]

in a dungeon, sneak attack, in arena, probably will be rupture because you will be in combat before u can hit ppl alot of the time

[meager hawk]

Nah, I'm asking cuz I thought it's common sense that if you're stacking all that then dual strike is the pick

[random echo]

it doubles everything so sneak attack also procs twice. you end up getting hit harder than a halberd headshot

[floral pendant]

dual strike w/ hide seems to be the best though ig

[meager hawk]

Oh DAMN

[floral pendant]

idk if i believe that, because rupture 100% doesnt proc twice

[random echo]

try it

[floral pendant]

why would sneak attack proc twice but not rupture tho?

[meager hawk]

One broken shit on another

[meager hawk]

Doesn't rupture just reset?

[random echo]

or youll find out soon enough. i was 135 hp with a prot pot on and got hit below 80% in one dual strike

[meager hawk]

It doesn't stack.

[random echo]

the guy who hit me had no perks and was a level 1 rogue in full bis

[meager hawk]

If anything procs twice, then rupture will proc twice (reseting it), and sneak attack will deal twice as damage.

[floral pendant]

right but unless both weapons hit on the same tick (which they do not) it shouldnt proc twice

[random echo]

test it

[meager hawk]

Gotta test ts ngl

There's layers into it

[floral pendant]

kk going into pve rn with it fuggit lol

[worn jetty]

how do i fix the bug where i cant jump after using evil eye?

[floral pendant]

it doesnt work, only on the first hit it procs

[floral pendant]

doesnt work only procs once with sneak attack

[meager hawk]

Hm

[keen summit]

FIX THE FUCKING RIGHT CLICK BUG

[clear berry]

having to enable all that shit to play highroller is dumb as hell

[cunning frigate]

whats the max magic damage reduction you can get without iron will?

[stone jay]

takes 2 minutes\

[clear berry]

brutha im used to turning computer on and playing lmao

[stone jay]

well turn it on and while its booting up hit delete and turn on secure boot

then boot up as normal and your good

[atomic lion]

Is there a difference between mining ores in pvp and pve? does it gives more ores on pvp?

[lime jacinth]

map rotations back to squires when.

[blissful dew]

anyone know if theres some gold chest in inferno that always spawns?

[hasty creek]

Does mode matter for herb rarity? Is there a difference between pve and HR for example?

[floral pendant]

yes

[hasty creek]

ok good

[floral pendant]

there is for everything although for some reason i still will get white rarity valuables from crates/barrels on HR sometimes

[hasty creek]

or maybe bad I was hoping to farm warweed as druid

[clear berry]

oh, they make the steps seem like a lot more lmao

[floral pendant]

just open chests on HR water map as penguin druid with cheap movespeed gear, youll never die+ free 3k every game

[meager hawk]

It proced twice.

[stone jay]

the various steps on their depend on your motherboard

[meager hawk]

Enough action speed makes the delay between attacks so small that it procs twice

[floral pendant]

hit with just one weapon you get two sets of dmg anyways, might be bugged

[meager hawk]

I did like 200dmg on a dummy ngl

[floral pendant]

i saw 36+18+18 when hitting it with a normal attack, and 36+18+18+34 when hitting it with dual strike

[floral pendant]

either the dummy is bugged or sneak attack procs twice even with one weapon

[mint jewel]

For fire burn ticks, what does that scale with? Magic power or just additional magic damage?

[meager hawk]

Hold on. Sneak attack (or dummy) might be bugged.

In combat it procs twice no matter the weapon.

It's either dummy being ass, or it's sneak attack procing twice with/without combat.

[mint jewel]

For fire burn ticks, what does that scale with? Magic power or just additional magic damage?

[floral pendant]

i think it is procing once but the two lower sets of numbers are set into 10 and 10 but they also scale so the number is higher possibly?

but im not sure why it would be doing the 20 dmg instead of 10 if we were both in combat while doing it anyways, very weird

[mint jewel]

For fire burn ticks, what does that scale with? Magic power or just additional magic damage?

[floral pendant]

both, but magic power will be harder to get more dmg out of because the smaller dmg will scale alot lower

[meager hawk]

I was testing in combat, that's why I was surprised to see 200dmg.

[mint jewel]

Thank you

[floral pendant]

yeah something is def bugged with it, im going to try it with a friend in duos later because ik dummies are weird and bugged in general

[meager hawk]

Either dummy has no combat logic and isn't going into a "combat state", or it's procing twice.

Probably dummy. Dummy hasn't been updated since mammoths.

[floral pendant]

yeah but why would it proc twice even if you are hitting it with a normal attack/ 1 weapon? so weird i dont get it lol

[meager hawk]

And combat logic was added after the dummy.

[floral pendant]

true lol

[meager hawk]

Sneak attack works on combat/non-combat entities. If the entity is in combat state > just 10 phys damage (10 + scale), if it's in non-combat state > it'll do 10+10 (10+10 with scale).

[floral pendant]

i think you are always not in combat with the dummy, and it is giving you dmg as normal attack/10 from combat/10 from out of combat and also scaling so the 10s are higher numbers

[meager hawk]

And they're probably separate (just making sneak attack proc twice).

[floral pendant]

yup so maybe the scaling on sneak attack is super high in general then? idk how i could be getting that unless it was 10dmg (0.8) scaling which is alot

because i was getting 18/18 for my sneak attack dmg

[tame edge]

Did they patch potato graphics?

[patent coyote]

is that a jojo reference?

[meager hawk]

steel ball run

where is it

[patent coyote]

🏇

[meager hawk]

AGAIN

they hiding something i know

they made steel balls run

[patent coyote]

you telling me a steel ball made this run?

[floral pendant]

currently selling steel balls for gold when they cost nothing ggs

[meager hawk]

Devs are lazy to think of sneak attack much probably. It's just working very simple: in combat it procs main effect once > in non-combat procs the same effect just twice. Combat state for dummy should be broken unless they added it to all the entities in-game and not just players.

[granite crown]

does anyone know where the rumor that wizard and cleric will be getting rework/update in next season came from? like rogue and ranger this reason

[meager hawk]

Should be tested on a player ngl

Player def got combat state working properly.

If sneak attack procs there twice > sneak attack is broken.

[meager hawk]

cuz season 10 and it has 1 in it and season 1 wiz was broken therefore illuminati

common knowledge bro✌️

[granite crown]

hmm fair

i heard a lot of people say it so thought it was legit

[patent coyote]

last season it was announced that barb/fighter got new perks and they did that season

the original plan was rogue/ragner midwipe then wiz/cleric at the end of last saeason

but that got pushed back

This was said during a QnA, and since we just got rogue/ranger, wiz and cleric are next

[granite crown]

i see, thanks

gonna try and find that qna

[patent coyote]

i can link you it

[deep heron]

barbs should be able to have a perk that allows them to play a drum to increase the potency of their skills

[full jay]

why is luck such a sought after stat?

[granite crown]

that would be legit ty

[random echo]

luck=more artifacts

[full jay]

did they change how it works though? i'm coming back to the game after a while and i remember luck being a worthless roll

[floral pendant]

yeah if i remember ill lyk later ill prob test it on a teammate when they are on in pvp

[crude quiver]

Why?

[patent coyote]

Heres where they mentioned rogue/ranger and fighter/barb https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Xvlhxy6b6A1WpSMsC-572u7ZPh70fV4UyR04uuNejJo/edit?tab=t.0

Let me keep looking for the initial one where they mentioned the reworks

[west kernel]

how much a chest hold this szn

[granite crown]

i see a vid from a streamer form the s9 dev qna and his summary has it

s10: cler wiz
s11: bard warlock

[copper lava]

New quest should be out today right?

[patent coyote]

Ye there you go

I was looking at the S9 Q&A but theres no mention of cleric or wiz

I knew I wasnt imagining it lol

[floral pendant]

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