game-discussion

[vapid herald]

killed about 30~ HR cave trolls with 200 luck and only 5 spec knights so im unsure

[warm tendon]

none of those ever dropped artifacts

try ghost king, warlord, lich, the new crypts boss, wyvern, fire colossus.

[stone panther]

yeh, none of the dual bosses drop artifacts. But, the pile between them does

[vapid herald]

i remember like a year or maybe abit longer the table between them had a chance

[peak lynx]

Day 40 @fleet imp

[warm tendon]

welll... not any more

[vapid herald]

okay noted

ty

[warm tendon]

your kill count is good, if you do the same amount of kills on any of the other bosses in HR you have a very good chance of seeing an artifact.

[vapid herald]

ill just do crypts floor 2 bosses i know all of them and practice overseer

[warm tendon]

Sweet, good luck

[vapid herald]

thank you

[barren dove]

Anyone good with coding to make an duplication tool for arc raiders?

[vapid oyster]

[barren dove]

Easy money

[terse onyx]

so what artifacts does wyvern drop now?

[warm tendon]

As far as I know only the bows

[peak lynx]

Didn’t know that actually. I’ve been skipping pile and letting noobs get it bc I play cleric and have low interaction speed.

[spiral totem]

feature request, make it not take 3 minutes to switch characters.

[peak lynx]

Ram problem

[sturdy coral]

🔥 🔥

[spiral totem]

I have a 5060 with 8GB and 32GB DDR4 in my machine..

[peak lynx]

32gb of ram is not a lot champ

[spiral totem]

im not running out, and 32GB is plenty to game exp dark and darker

[steel wind]

whole game just froze on me when I tried to pick a golden chest

lost all my loot

[peak lynx]

I understand ur struggle. I used to have 16gb of ram and recently upgraded to 32. It makes a big difference but is still sometimes slow. I understand the devs could compress the files and make it easier to run. I’m not necessarily saying “just buy more ram” but the loading IS ram related. Most of my friends have 60+ ram

[steel wind]

still stuck can't close yet

luckily i can get these legendary items I gemed up back

though that is gonna cost me like 700 gold

[barren dove]

whats alot?

For gaming and some simple coding its more than enough

[peak lynx]

120+

[barren dove]

Overkill

[high roost]

can u get artifacts from norms now?

[thin patio]

are huntress rolls intentionally made bad I have not seen a huntress piece with a max roll let alone a roll that isnt undead dmg, demon dmg, or spell cast speed on non caster pieces

[peak lynx]

I’m just calling it how I see it bro. If u want instantaneous loading screens, get more ram. That’s all. Don’t complain to the devs about loading screens like we all didn’t wait an hour to get into GTAV when we were kids. Have some patience if your budget won’t allow for more ram

[thin patio]

man why are ppl in this channel usually so passive aggressive?

[peak lynx]

Bc the devs put bots to auto chat ban you if u say anything remotely inflammatory. So u either get zero helpful input at all, or passive aggressive people who really want to help you but aren’t allowed to be blunt with their advice

[honest cedar]

How many columns in my inventory do I need free while loot loot piles?

[barren dove]

32gb is more than enough to do an live stream while playing gtv

will load fine

[peak lynx]

The more slots u have open the better chances u have of getting larger items like gold chest. If u only leave the bottom row open u can almost guarantee getting gems

[barren dove]

Seems like an wifi issue instead of ram

[bronze anchor]

5 by fucking 5

[honest cedar]

I try to leave 6 columns

[bronze anchor]

Sorry had to be passive aggressive

[honest cedar]

ty

[autumn geyser]

Anything more than 32 Lowk feels like overkill for most things unless your streaming and other stuff while playing demanding games

[peak lynx]

Yea but u guys act like this game is league of legends or even gta. This game has way more moving pieces with way more intricate hitboxes and abilities. The game is honestly beefier than most

[vernal badger]

Load times slow down depending on the characters inventory. Its empty fast load times, if it's full it takes a min

[autumn geyser]

The only thing keeping it herd to run is the lack of quality in making it easier to run. bigger games that have better compressed files are way easier to run

[thin patio]

i have 16gb and usually dont get over 90% mem usage with youtube streaming on my side monitor

[autumn geyser]

My problem is crashing every 5 secs to an unexpected error especially when going through diff levels

[astral thunder]

NERF SORC SORC BEST CLASS IN GAME

[terse ridge]

guys in which map i stand the highest chance of droping chest and uniqes from the gold pile?

[thin patio]

😲

[autumn geyser]

Frost mountain if I had to guess

But don’t quote me

If your trying to get uniqes lk you should farm lich or ghost king

[thin patio]

I dont think its map dependant they all have the same chance

[astral thunder]

Are you lacking game knowledge??

[thin patio]

no I just wait until they make one mistake and kill them in two hits

[astral thunder]

you would never do that to me pal

[autumn geyser]

Sure

[thin patio]

lmao

[astral thunder]

im serious...

[thin patio]

im sure you are

[autumn geyser]

About as serious as I am with my 400 dollar Pokemon card someone’s gotta buy.

Speaking of that cough cough buy it…

please

[warm tendon]

ffs devs do something about this w vs caster class its just stupid

[thin patio]

in what way? melee class has always been about closing the gap but once you do it its typically over

thats the challenging part of fighting range as a melee

[warm tendon]

No it is completely broken, you just hug doors and obstacles and you cannot be hit. The caster has no choice to back up and keep backing up. Until you are in a corner and get cooked

I play all classes and it is completely unfair

[autumn geyser]

Bruh most of the time the caster kills the melee class before the melee class is close enough to matter

[opal night]

is the +3 Max health -1,5 Action speed Race skin ever coming back

[thin patio]

well while backing up casters get their damage in I personally see that caster is actually stronger than melee

wizard is a dominant class

[autumn geyser]

Only time melee is stupid is surprising a caster cuz if they start close it’s over

[warm tendon]

Not when I olay melee or when I play caster. You get 1 spell of regardless of it hitting or not you now have to put your book away. If you pull it back out to cast again you are dead. If you don'ty pull it back out to cast you are also dead

[thin patio]

well thats what utility spells are for such as haste invisibility slow

[autumn geyser]

Use haste/ invis to keep space

Yeee what he said are you sorc?

[warm tendon]

Sorry for starting this friends but I'm not going to continue this arguement

[autumn geyser]

Maybe your movement speed too slow is it 300+ lwk

[thin patio]

im not trynna argue just genuinely wanna help you out

[autumn geyser]

Yeah we not arguing

[warm tendon]

Okay but I would if we were to continue on this train

[autumn geyser]

I get it I get the same stuff but usually it’s a skill diff or gear diff

[warm tendon]

It has nothing to do with skill

Or gear really

[autumn geyser]

It is with me

[thin patio]

lol

thought you said "is it me" before i typed

[rose turtle]

e9 u dellusional

[warm tendon]

Want to 1v1 me?

[autumn geyser]

lol

[thin patio]

bro no way

[rose turtle]

I main fighter and coming into a caster EVEN with high mdr is crazy difficult

[tribal zodiac]

Playing rogue and coming..... meh

[rose turtle]

And if they fuck up and u get close, close door and reset distance

[tribal zodiac]

you can break doors tho

[warm tendon]

when it comes to a sorc maybe but wiz cannot reset

[thin patio]

invis close door

slow close door

[autumn geyser]

I’m afraid to say I’ve been on both ends of the stick but most time when casters die it’s cuz they got jumped out of no where or missed all there spells

[rose turtle]

welp, wiz is more balanced in my opinion because oif that

[thin patio]

fireball or ice shard close door

[rose turtle]

Thats what im saying

[warm tendon]

do you play any other ranged clases Julen?

Or just fighter?

[rose turtle]

The caster has the opportunitty to kill every single class if they hit spells

if they dont, they reset, cause im slow

[rose turtle]

Yep

[warm tendon]

Caster needs to start fight making looting really hard because you are standing still. If you get pushed you die

[warm tendon]

Want to battle?

[blissful valve]

why did they not opened the arena? 13 days to go 🙁

[thin patio]

e9 imma let you in on something I play ranger rn but last wipe I played mostly wiz and it was unfair i just fireball or iceshard if i need space, invis if they are on me haste to help make space. ironwill barb really must be bad if you think caster sucks

[rose turtle]

wdym

[warm tendon]

like 1v1

[rose turtle]

We could sure

But that does not make the discusion go anywhere xdd

[warm tendon]

Not my experience at all

[thin patio]

anecdotal argument

[warm tendon]

I could at least convice you?

Sway you to my direction

pick any ranger/acster and pick any class for me to fight you, you will see my point

[thin patio]

heres the thing casters literally have all the tools necessary if you can't make use of them its on you at that point

[autumn geyser]

I will say like ashen range is more melee dominant

But even then

Just means it takes more skill

But it is easier to get jumped

[thin patio]

yeah thats true and ruins especially caster can go crazy but the modules are very balanced about range v melee

I just wish they made it so multishot couldn't combo with overdraw instead of adding a timer

maybe thats a bad take but i liked the idea

[tough kestrel]

So youre saying i should solo queue HR wizard ashen range?

[autumn geyser]

If you want it would be harder then forgotten castle

[warm tendon]

If you do, make sure you kill both troll and cyclops

[rose turtle]

MAN, does not make any sense, you gonna pick sklills, spells and gear to close gap. But you need to have hybrid build to play against EVRYTHING. So if you go that set of skills to close gap, then a barb comes and u fucked. Or a taunt second wind fighter and ur also fucked. But that fighter gonna get fucked by wiz or sorc. U fell me dawg ?

[warm tendon]

Heck pick any perks and skills for me idc, like is said it is not skill based/gear vbased whatever

[rose turtle]

And I usually run around 30% mdr and still, worst nightmare are casters

[warm tendon]

Yes lol caster are your counter

[rose turtle]

Sure man, start playing hr

[warm tendon]

?

I've literally played HR for the last 2 hours

[rose turtle]

K, then Ig this conversation goes nowhere, I have my point, you have yours

Lets be happy that way

[warm tendon]

Fair

Cannot wait for wiz to get the buffs next wipe. Man has been gutted every single seasons since release.

[uncut chasm]

Do you only play S2R?

[warm tendon]

I never play S2R really why? I did play 2 games yesterday, had a fun team.

[gritty flume]

Streamers get to play arena in a tournament but they delay ours until 1/3 of the way through the wipe. Nice one devs

[sonic lodge]

Wondering if any tech savvy people could help, I have virtualization enabled in my BIOS and my memory integrity is on, but when I am trying to run HR it says that my HVCI is disabled

[empty arch]

whats a good reason why i cant put in whatever i want into expressman

[uncut chasm]

Because choices matter and you haven’t survived the dungeon yet

[autumn geyser]

Is hvci the one where you have to go to settings and allow it to block malware

That’s what I had

[pliant valley]

@fleet imp Goblin Prisons A Health shrine didn't heal

[sonic lodge]

Yes, i've enabled it and restarted my pc but when I load the game up it still says its disabled

[autumn geyser]

That’s weird mine just worked after I enabled it in my systems setting and restarted

You did it under core isolation in setting right?

And turned on memory integrity @sonic lodge

[wind venture]

What are some good trio comps?

[empty arch]

thats the dumbest sh i ever heard

@zinc sparrow just make me be able to put in my sterling blade into expressman dude, who cares if its not "looted" he won't be able to tell the difference anyways

[uncut chasm]

Aight then it’s cause you suck and can’t make it out alive so you deserve to be punished

[dusky stratus]

fighter , ranger , warlock , is main trio comp im seeing atm with my squad

[sonic lodge]

Yeah, my memory integrity is on

[abstract basin]

whats DB in trade chat?

[wind venture]

What is a good fighter build?

[alpine jay]

can someone tell me what DB stands for?

[inner token]

deathbloom

[alpine jay]

thanks

[warm tendon]

This might not be related but do you have secure boot enabled?

[empty arch]

i can tell english isnt your first language lil guy

[sonic lodge]

Yes, secure boot is enabled

[wise mist]

Hey guys

I have difficulty valuing an item

[uncut chasm]

Konichiwa

[wise mist]

How can i learn to value items

[tiny tartan]

halberd dmg/range/sour spot stats are not the core issue btw - you can set them to 0 and we'll just have the same problem with bardiche

[uncut chasm]

Search same stats on marketplace bro

[pliant valley]

check market for similar items

[wise mist]

Its pretty bissy thats why

[uncut chasm]

Then hold it forever and never sell it gl bud

[pliant valley]

LUL

[wise mist]

That was very helpful

[uncut chasm]

You wanna be 🥄 fed

[wise mist]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

[uncut chasm]

Research and make your best educated guess after looking at similar items with similar stats

[warm tendon]

Then I don't know

[wise mist]

Its okay you never had very good items to sell prolly

[uncut chasm]

If I did I didn’t waste my brain power begging strangers to tell me what it’s worth cause god forbid I lost out on 10-30k of gold coins you can farm in like 2 hours

I’d rather sell fast and keep playing while you are so worried about profit margins ♿

[lilac ether]

DarkerJohn is right

This is the way

[toxic halo]

what could i get for a dryads wrath or 2?

[wise mist]

I asked the method, maybe there was a better way then I was already doing.

Notice how i didn't shared the picture or stats of the said item

This guy just sits on discord channel to gatekeep strangers 😄

[lilac ether]

My guy, I don’t care

[calm onyx]

anyone know what drops rotten fluids

[wise mist]

me neither

[uncut chasm]

You got 2 polite answers that you didn’t like and u still asking to be SPOONED

[lilac ether]

DarkerJohn is still right
This is the way

[wise mist]

write the essays my boy

[lilac ether]

It’s hilarious that you consider that gatekeeping though. He told you what to do and you didn’t like the answer he gave.

[wise mist]

go on reddit to complain about people asking questions after

you are done here

you coudlve ignored the question

[lilac ether]

Holy hell, I think this guy is serious 😂

[pliant valley]

any u prob would have an idea on what it's value was by now if u spent the time to look. But here u r still no clue

[uncut chasm]

I’ll price check your item personally if you call me daddy and change your DAD discord name to “can’t figure out how to use the marketplace”

[wise mist]

I know more or less the price

[lilac ether]

DarkerJohn is batting 3 for 3 lol
This is the way

[wise mist]

I just wanted to know if there was a better way to value 🙂

some games have specific channels for item valuing

[pliant valley]

go ask in trading post and see how honest they r

[lilac ether]

And this one says game discussion, not price check on aisle 3

[uncut chasm]

Okay you win, you have passed the entrance exam into the SECRET SOCIETY of price checking items, just DM me your credit card info and I’ll send you the invite

[wise mist]

I started a discussing didn't i ?

I never specifically asked price of an item

reading comprehension

[lilac ether]

He really is serious. I can’t believe it.

DarkerJohn, good luck with this one

[uncut chasm]

I’m just having fun while I finish my last half hour of work 🥲

[viral compass]

is frost amy good this wipe?

[lilac ether]

I’m literally doing the exact same

[lilac ether]

Haven’t looked, but have they reverted it back to true Dmg? If not… then probably not

[viral compass]

its just phys power and armor pen

[lilac ether]

With neckless of peace also having been gutted… if you’re stacking armor pen for a niche build it could be good. It’s now more build dependent honestly

So, it’s not bad, but depending on what I’m playing I may want something else

[sonic lodge]

I managed to fix the HVCI error, my msinfo file was in the wrong location so the game couldnt read that HVCI was running, after resetting it and restoring the files it's working

[thorny echo]

can someone help me with HVCI on windows 11

[high roost]

can u get artifacts from normal bossing or only squire royal?

[uncut chasm]

I think squire and HR only?

I think key piles too

Not piles that don’t require a key tho

[high roost]

me too but my friend is swearing he got a cinder from colossal on norms last night

[uncut chasm]

No clue I haven’t played any normals this wipe tbh

I’m addicted to S2R

[indigo basin]

is there an hidden gbmm in normal?

[high roost]

yeah the s2r is fun I havent done any bossing on norms so idk

[fickle marlin]

it was speculated that there once was when certain GS # thresholds existed

[lilac ether]

Could be that they forgot to update the loot pools on Norms BUT that’s unlikely. Not impossible, just unlikely

[high roost]

yeah I have no idea. he didnt clip it or anything so lil spectacle but he swears so idk.

[neat sky]

Why isnt TKing reportable lol

[pliant valley]

bc ppl make shit up

[obtuse idol]

It is I got a 10 min timer for it yesterday

So it definitely is reportable lol

[austere panther]

go to fame in the bottom right of the main screen and you can see your previous team and you can commend or give them TK reports

[silver bloom]

i've bardiched 3 teammates in the head cause they wanted to greed quest items

[austere panther]

lmao, just get good and earn them again

[silver bloom]

the 10 minute timeout is shorter than finding em again

[feral karma]

Teamkilling can be reported if you encounter iintentional teamkilling inside of Arena. You can also use the Karma and Fame button in the bottom to punish the player, and if they are punished enough it will get to a point where if they teamkill and are punished once they can't play for four hours per.

[leaden peak]

ive only gotten green rings from sub bosses its it ment be like ethat

[feral karma]

It's just RNG, i've found blue so far.

[leaden peak]

so its just rare to get an acctual good ring then from them yea

i also like the helberd nerf did besecly nothing xD

[blissful stirrup]

from what ive heard its only possible to get up to epics

[leaden peak]

dosent make any sense if u farming hr lol

[hot cloud]

Hi, Fire Colossus drop artifacts now or not?

[blissful stirrup]

i guess its just to avoid having a bunch of legendary and unique rings flood the market

[blissful stirrup]

yes, he drops all axe artifacts as well as cinder

[warped spear]

Yah Im done with this shit now. This wipe Ive ran into more cheaters then ever. Just done with it

[hot cloud]

thanks

[warped spear]

I've literally maybe ran into 2 or 3 cheaters prior to this wipe, and now I'm running into at least 1 a day. And my performance in everything is worse because of them trying to stop cheaters

[feral karma]

Fire Colossus has dropped artifacts since he was added, they changed some of the artifact drops for all the bosses.

[warped spear]

Killed a dude in full uniques, Went and found a dark corner, hid in it, no pots no nothing, random module with mid loot. just waiting for portals to come up. Bard comes in, and runs right up to me ignoring a mob he agrod

Def one of the more eggregious ones I've ran into, but its happening way to much, if I want to put up with this much BS imma at least go try the new tarkov wipe

[feral karma]

Do you have a recording of the encounter, or any of the others you mentioned?

[warped spear]

Nah my recording software has been off since turning this shit on because I don't want to waste FPS for 1 game that I would clip in

[feral karma]

Well if you are running into players cheating daily I would suggest using some form of recording, and you could submit them to an Ironguard like myself, or on the website. It would help make the game a better place.

[warped spear]

Probably should at this rate. But tbh I just uninstalled the game. Just tired of it.

[feral karma]

Sorry to hear that, hopefully you come back someday. I understand needing a break sometimes. 🫂

[random echo]

why tf is sheild bash on a 8 sec cd

[charred scaffold]

RIP can't get my bios to work and can't play arena/HR. Main reason I instant refunded BF6. Shame they're doing this...

[random echo]

ye cheaters only get temp ban too

[warm tendon]

Nice, have fun

[austere panther]

I haven't come across many cheaters or not blatant ones but then I never sat in the middle of a random tile in a corner. In my opinion the cheaters aren't even that bad, it's the dead proxy chat that has me thinking of leaving. nobody interesting on this game, nobody trying something new unless the numbers go up and make their chances of surviving higher, Just boring, worse than CoD with it's repetitive classes but at least CoD players got on mic.

[warped spear]

You can blame IM for banning friendly encounters and flip flopping on teaming rules for that. Not to mention having VoiP off by default

[austere panther]

true but as far as I knew it was teaming that was banned not "friendly encounters".

[warped spear]

Both are banned in HR, neither are banned in any other mode

[austere panther]

so we're playing DnD without the free will of DnD

[uncut chasm]

Sorry this is DaD, you are mistaken

[random echo]

dm's are also off be default. which makes zero sense

[pliant valley]

FRIENDLY ENCOUNTERS AREN'T BANNABLE

[uncut chasm]

Sometimes my VoIP randomly resets to “off” and I have to turn it back on between matches

[pliant valley]

only if u kill someone with another person and then don't fight them

[austere panther]

real shit, completely different game mb, nothing similar at all

[uncut chasm]

But I’m almost always yelling at people as I assault them

[warped spear]

if you hid , it turns it off

[hardy stump]

nah, HR is homicide sweat fest
SR imo has best spirit of the game and adventure at the moment, had moments where one dead team mate just left and we've teamed up with 1 left guy from some other team only to proceed and win the game like that

[uncut chasm]

Wym?

[austere panther]

I don't think I've once recieved on and mine are on.

[warped spear]

Hit ,

[random echo]

are you on public or friends only?

[uncut chasm]

I still don’t get what that means… if I “hit” it turns off VoIP? Hit what? lol

Oh are u saying the comma is the bind

[warped spear]

Yeh

[austere panther]

I went through something like that. . . some little imp with a voice changer invited me to his team

[uncut chasm]

Roger, gotta unbind that ty

[austere panther]

public Probably

[hardy stump]

SR is peak DaD

[warped spear]

While I agree, it sucks because even HR used to be fun and whimsical

Idc if someone wants to sweat, but people should be able to play any of the modes how they want, besides cheating and preteaming

[uncut chasm]

My favorite thing in playtest 4-5 was HR solo goblin caves and “teaming up with someone” throughout the entire dungeon, telling them I’ll cover them while they open the blue portal and I’ll find the next, and then teaching a harsh lesson about trust in the dungeon

My best DaD memories tbh

[austere panther]

SR is only peak because you can't use some classes builds without gear specialised for it and ngl class building is 90% of the reason the game is shit, no luck based gear anymore so everyone has second grade Bis

[warped spear]

And thats how it should be. Betrayal was a core part of this game. Just like it is with arc raiders

[still cloud]

It actually is bro, cant kill bosses or do anything together

[austere panther]

EXACTLY, even if people did that it would be amazing because DnD is all about doing whatever it takes

[warped spear]

Yes they are

And it sucks ass

[random echo]

100% agree. SSF is the way the game should be with the game in its current state. removing the ability to buy and sell gear should fix that issue. let people buy gems, consumables, quest items, but gear should be banned from market

[uncut chasm]

I get why they had to stop it though, too many people weren’t interested in the spirit of the RP and were just actually concerned with making it out alive 😛

[warped spear]

Because it makes the community in this game not only non existent, but just horrid to be around

[austere panther]

where are the ingame bannable rules for refference?

[warped spear]

Scattered

[feral karma]

There isn't a super specific list, the best suggestion I would give is if you are worried that you could get in trouble for it, I would just avoid doing that.

[warped spear]

Or do it anyways because the odds of youg etting banned are slim to none

[uncut chasm]

You can still get away with this in S2R tbh

[warped spear]

I've ignored the no friendly encounters rule since it started and have never been banned

[feral karma]

But some basics are avoid Friendly Encounters in HR like it says in red text, and outside of HR Teaming is allowed as long as it's organic teaming, and not preteaming.

[austere panther]

idk, market is nice but I feel like it should be it's own map. A market you can go and trade in person with no weapons and guards and pickpockets would be hilarious

[feral karma]

Do you have any recordings of you engaging in friendly encounters in HR?

[warped spear]

Nah this sounds horrid lol

[warped spear]

Lmao nah why would I

[austere panther]

so there's bannable offenses that aren't in a list anywhere and there is nowhere to find them?

[uncut chasm]

Imagine if before every game everyone going into the map spawned in a lobby and you could inspect everyone’s gear

It was PEAK

[warped spear]

Oh I remember, its good its gone but it was memorable

[thorn glen]

Hiding in corners when you run juice kits 😂

[uncut chasm]

Sending your barb to inspect the other while your cleric played hide and seek

I was a barb buff ball enjoyer in its peak

[feral karma]

The basic text on HR is "Friendly encounters are prohibited. All teaming is a bannable offence in High-Roller Dungeons."

[hardy stump]

that is one thing Arc Raiders is superior at, and by a long shot - it doesn't pretend its a competitive game, it gives you baseline rule of "you go on the map, go do stuff" and leaves you there, no compulsory friendliness or hostility, you act as both parties chose to and stories write themselves

[austere panther]

it was amazing. I never once inspected anyones gear I just enjoyed the social before the violence, it give more development to the game.

[warped spear]

And thats what Dark and Darker should be

[still cloud]

Everyone always crying about teaming being bannable acting like you dont have a duo and trio que for all your team fantasies

[uncut chasm]

I get why teaming should be prevented in HR, the fact that you can do all of that in every other mode is enough for me

[warped spear]

Its not the same as meeting someone in the dungeon

[uncut chasm]

Good luck to anyone who faces JohnFighting in the ruins, you’ve been warned

[hardy stump]

DaD is way too sweaty for it unfortunately, solo players can't handle the idea of going against multiple people, because realistically you usually can't

[still cloud]

Is also not fair to the players that play fair to get teamed on in solo lobbies but you only care about making it out with your friend you find because otherwise you die

[random echo]

having people find their own gear then buying gems to upgrade the gear they find is how this game should be. otherwise anyplayer that has gold has the ability to be in lategame gear. the only form of progression is getting better gear at the moment. anyone with a few thousand gold can buy end game items that they otherwise would have no access to without the market

[warped spear]

Its only that sweaty becaues SDF couldn't make up his dman mind most of the time. He implemented things to encourage interactions in the dungeon then bans interacting in the dungeons, then unbans it in some modes but not all, but also has VOIP disabled by default

[tidal crescent]

why don't i keep the keys when i extract? Is it new?

[austere panther]

nah, fuck goldsmith, he shouldn't be a thing.

[hardy stump]

nothing is "fair" about extraction genre, squires for juicers even in 1v1 isn't fair, gear and counter classes make solos inherently unfair

[random echo]

i hear you. but he is a thing, and the fact he exists changes the entire dyanmic of loot and progression in this game

[fleet surge]

Thsts more sweaty imo bc only no lifers will get good gear. When msrket is open you can do a couple money runs than buy a good kit. Makes it available for people who have jobs lol

[still cloud]

1v1 against a juicer is a very doablr fight, 1v2 is a braindead fight for the 2, ez win

[hardy stump]

goldsmith is the only reason everyone can actually afford bis, fully max rolled pieces are still over inflated, but everyone can get their build at a good cost now, so to me goldsmith is a great addition, so good in fact Mistfal Hunter copied it over their og system

[random echo]

if the sweats want to grind for end game gear all day let them they should be rewarded for it and for playing well. being able to go pve and farm some gold then run kits you otherwise wouldnt have totally breaks the progression in this game in its current state. you can basically be in end game gear by going in and pve'ing and looting avoiding all conflict.

[still cloud]

You aldo have a pve mode to get up to epics before trying that in HR soooo

[warped spear]

Sounds like you arent good at the game

[hardy stump]

eh, it depends on class setup as well, I'm not exactly Skinny or Lorr skill level, but even I had my fair share of 1v3 butt clenching moments

[still cloud]

Damn your opinion matters so much to me

[fleet surge]

I dont think having a good kit is end game lol thats just called playing hr

Hr boss get an artifact Make a kit for that run it thats at least more end game than just being able to buy a decent kit

[random echo]

the only form of progression with this game in its current state is getting better gear. gold is extremely accessible at the moment. even the worst players can farm a few thousand gold then go buy a kit they otherwise would have no chance of obtaining without the market and goldsmith combo.

[hardy stump]

for pve players and sweats, having bis is the end goal to get more bis

[still cloud]

Against timmies im sure, my 3s team would never die to a solo no matter how kitted because we arent timmies

Aparently i cant say brane ded? Hilarious

[feral karma]

They removed the ability to extract with keys awhile ago, they made them far more common to make up for that, so if you focus on Golden Chests, Small Coffers, Lionsheads, and other special chests you will pull a few. If you were to add luck into that equation you would end up with a ton of keys, I think the most i've found in a run was seven keys on one floor.

[warped spear]

Man you and everyone you know is just the best at everything.

[still cloud]

Your opinion is still garbagr

[tidal crescent]

ok thx

[edgy sable]

And then once you got all the gear you could use you really can only grind arena endlessly like a pleb

[feral karma]

[warped spear]

Oh, ok I guess you and everyone you know are horrid at everything. You said it.

[floral onyx]

did they do something to the spawn points??? ive spawned into 3 games back to back now and each time im spawning in right next to a team in a model... every time on the outer edge of the map as well...

[hardy stump]

that's the end game for sweats

[random echo]

exactly bro. you get what i am saying

[edgy sable]

One season I played savage barb skinny pete style and felt like I beat the game in a week cause I had more g ear then I could ever use and you dont need unlimited money when you have 20 gear sets on a cheap build character

[still cloud]

In your mind im sure i did

[fleet surge]

Can't really call it end game if you only know 3 bosses

[edgy sable]

the amount of gear I could earn with a set would return more than I would lose

[random echo]

you arent alone bro. getting teamed up on is really cringe. but to be fair its also something you should be prepared for. based on this dialouge in this chat over the last 10 min you can see how many people would happily team up to kill someone they otherwise would have no chance of beating. all you can do at the moment is be prepared for people to team if the situation suits them.

[random echo]

100%

[still cloud]

Ban them all idc 🙃

[random echo]

lmao

[austere panther]

yeah but that's the reason people kill for loot? so they can find something better than they have equipped, that's why people play the game, right? If not why play HR when you can do the same thing in norms or S2R

[fleet surge]

That or just play hr if you dont want to deal with teaming and if it happens report them

[atomic lion]

I died in pve and now i'm waiting for goblin, can I join another dungeon while time passes? or that would make my items disappear?

[hardy stump]

you don't need to be good enough to kill bosses, you only need to be good enough to kill bosser

[fleet surge]

Toushe

[warped spear]

I team up with people because its fun and even if its a hinderance. Dont care if we get good loot or kill people or not

[feral karma]

Yeah you can run another game, when you lose your items in dungeon yourself they stay in the service tab for three days. If they are brought out by other players they last for 30 minutes I think it was.

[atomic lion]

Oh thanks!

[feral karma]

[still cloud]

Even if its a hinderance 😂🤣you team up IN ORDER to survive. You are only lying to yourself noone believs your BS

[hardy stump]

some do, some don't, I myself have been running budget kits for a long time before, because I didn't considered myself skilled enough to a point where bis would make a difference to me

[fleet surge]

Are you the same Katie that does manta ray?

[hardy stump]

I very much am not, and it starts to get annoying how many people ask

[still cypress]

"If you ain't goonin', if you ain't shittin' your pants, you ain't livin', brother. " - Hulk Hogan

[warped spear]

I do it because it's fun and the people I team with are usually funny. I care more about having a good time then sweating my ass off

[fleet surge]

Sorry for asking lol I just learned it but cant do hr manta ray keep dying to the bubbles lighting lmao

[icy pebble]

Goblin merchant saves every single piece of equipped gear in pve right?

[fleet surge]

When it slams

[austere panther]

a 1v1 you only need to trust yourself and play to the best you can, a 2v2 you're trusting your teammate can beat the other guy and 3v3 you trust that the teamplay is good enough to be better than the other team. each player is its own variable that decides whether you win or not so a poor player is a "hindrance"

[still cloud]

Again noone believes your bs and @feral karma look he admitted to teaming can we just clean this one up?

[feral karma]

If you are ever stuck on a boss you are interested in learning you could always come to The Hall of Knights and request a knight to help you learn it.
#🔗links message

[warped spear]

Oh I admit to teaming and breaking the no friendly encounter rule all the time.

[random echo]

i know its fun. ive done it before too but for the person getting teamed up on its feels really bad.

[fleet surge]

They actually hop in there with you to help?

[random echo]

ive been in both positions numerous times

[warped spear]

I usually try to avoid pvp when I do it.

[still cloud]

Hes talking about teaming in solos duh get a clue

[warped spear]

Buttt, some people want the smoke no matter what

[plucky wind]

😁 Hey guys, if you have a minute, I posted a post on Reddit today (Dark and darker, of course) proposing a balanced system for recovering cosmetic items from past seasons without ruining veterans' prestige. But of course, everyone's opinions are welcome to improve the idea. Check it out and let me know what you think or if you have any suggestions! 👇

[Suggestion] A Balanced Way to Recover Past Season Cosmetics: The "Echo Shard" System

[random echo]

not everyone posses the honor you do

[still cloud]

Only because admins lick boots instead of doing any kind of job

[pale remnant]

this game's like really fucking bad come here to vent every once in a while

[feral karma]

The Knight will group with you and teach you the boss fight, and the goal will be working with you until you can kill it yourself. 🙂

[austere panther]

have you ever made a positive comment in regards to this game?

[fleet surge]

Thsts pretty sick

[feral karma]

Yeah it is, the Knight program is really amazing. I am happy to be a part of it.

[warped spear]

I just like seeing what the momo says. He usually shows his small thought process

[pale remnant]

let game run good and cap the fps if your gonna make fighting frame dependent?

[warped spear]

You guys already teaching the demon?

[austere panther]

exactly, he's been giving his opinions to me for 3 days straight about his sweaty ass swamp chaired gameplay.

[still cloud]

Would it warm your little heart? Lollll lord the world is soft

[warped spear]

How many people are usually trying to do manta? Is it pretty dead?

[warped spear]

Again I fear for what your kids deal with on a day to day

[barren anvil]

guys best pvp class rn?
for solos

[feral karma]

I think there are a few Knights that can teach it, I have been working on learning it lately. It's a really cool boss.

[austere panther]

I'm asking because if there isn't a single thing you've ever enjoyed in the game, why don't you play something else?

[fleet surge]

When I was doing it it was actually pretty contested in pve dead in normals and 50/ 50 in hr if someone was there

In solos

[fringe garnet]

Have you seen the High-Roller version? Oh lord...

[rotund karma]

whichever one i just got killed by

[warped spear]

I just wish theyd stop putting voids around their bosses. Their game and servers are not stable enough for that

[feral karma]

Oh yeah, I had one of the Knights helping me learn it, it's very cool and a fluid fight. I am a huge fan of the fight.

[warped spear]

I stutter literally every time i crouch jump up the platforms to wyvern, nowhere else, just that

[still cloud]

Man your right im gonna go uninstall now just because of you 🤣😂

Hold your breathe noe

[feral karma]

I agree, I am not a fan of voids personally. I would accept breakable ice, but no void would be my preference.

[fleet surge]

Very common I've done wyvern 1000 times you can definitely jump up thr steps super quick but its not worth it lol just jump one at a time wait a sec than jump the next and it should stop that stutter

[warped spear]

It adds nothing of actual value to the game, getting the boss reset would be enough of a punishment, more often then not, its used by people not wanting to give there gear to you so they just jump in

[warped spear]

I genuinely wonder what causes that stutter

[pale remnant]

depends, do you not like slow timing of combat and want to run play wizard, wanna rush in there and stat check? play fighter barb or rogue

[pliant valley]

LOL i'm watching this lock think he can keep cursing and hellfire ogre by going in and out of the room

[feral karma]

Yeah I agree, I think the void is a bad system. I hope someday it's removed.

[fleet surge]

Same bc if I go up the steps too fast ill stutter and sometimes you stutter right into the void lol

[rocky vine]

@feral karma do u have mod perms

[barren anvil]

ye i prefer the second soo which one of those three do the most damage, i just wanna hit like a tank
as rogue i just feel like i never do damage to barbs n fighters

[icy pebble]

Goblin merchant saves every single piece of equipped gear in pve right?

[austere panther]

I mean if you enjoy the game but only complain then why would there be any backing to your words? if you only see the negative then your opinion is biased and unusable.

[feral karma]

No, I am just a Knight I teach, if you need a mod you would need to fill out a ticket or summon a Warden.

[random echo]

cant go wrong with fighter. boc warlock with spell is prob stronger in 1v1's tho

[rocky vine]

its just a quick matter cs the join to create vc trios broke

some guy is sitting in it i think thats why

[pliant valley]

yes

[rocky vine]

u cant dc him or anything yea?

[barren anvil]

whats the diff bw fighter n barb what are the pros and cons to each and rogue too which does highest damage etc, also for me idk i just find fighter really basic

[still cloud]

I bet in your head you are so smart, mommy told you your such a good boy 🤣😂

[noble verge]

easily the most annoying person on this discord lmao, constantly whining about something

[upper jungle]

Haze blade needs to be the one hitting to have its effect apply right?

[still cloud]

Qq more

[feral karma]

I'll let them know, thanks!

[austere panther]

no I'm trying to have a conversation with what appears to be a child.

[rocky vine]

np thank you too

[feral karma]

[random echo]

rogue takes the most skill to play well. rogue is one of the highest skill ceiling classes and you are punished much harder for mistakes than other classes. fighter can run plate armor which is stronger in matchups where the opponent is doing physical dmg. fighters can also you ranged weapons, bows crossbow hand cannon and a variety of melee weapons. barb is tank and more focused on running people down and stat checking in a toe to toe brawl. barbs have minimal ranged capabilities and are typically slower than most classes. Boc warlock is like a plate fighter and a magic user with ranged spells. and heavy burst dmg up close

[still cloud]

Damn the opinion hurts

[austere panther]

sorry, didn't mean to offend you

[deft robin]

wyvern dashes way to much

[barren anvil]

soooo are fighter and barb are a counter to rogue? im leaning towards rogue but im not sure i mean im just gonna get bodied by fighters and barbs no

[charred scaffold]

!!! Revert Secure Boot TPM !!!

[still cloud]

100

[random echo]

its not really as simple as a rock paper scissors counter anymore because there are tons of different variables. I play mostly rogue this wipe and I can say the hardest matchup for rogue currently is longsword plate fighter. barb is less of a counter bc they cant wear plate and they are typically much slower than rogue and they lack ranged capablities.

[still cloud]

Don't worry i understand your comprehension is missing my sarcasm, didn't need you to double down🤣

[barren anvil]

hmmm so against barb how would a fight go, as rogue are u just supposed to run into them and just spam knife headshots
could u out dps them that way cuz they do hella damage

[random echo]

if you are going to play rogue be prepared to be punished really hard for mistakes you make. but being probably the highest skill class in the game (im bias asf here) you do have the ability to outplay majoirty of people if you are better and have the right stuff. for example having a bunch of throwing knives makes matchups where you would lose 99% of the time very winnable if you play correctly

[supple vector]

hihi, returning player here. I bought the game long ago but when hovering high roller it says i have no legendary status, will this fix itself or am i missing something?

[random echo]

if the gear is equal you would kite the barb into making a mistake. shoot them with your hand crossbow and slowly widdle them down with knives until you have an opening to blitz them and go for a kill.

[still cloud]

I run them around for a while making them mad and then pull a bunch of mobs and closr doors behind, i cant tell you how many i have trapprd in mobs to die in full kits🤣

[rocky vine]

wrong account maybe?

[red basin]

how hard is it learn to solo HR wyvern? i can do the easy bosses (gk, troll, cyclops)

[rocky vine]

significantly harder than the others

[supple vector]

noh it has all my characters on it, just seasonally reset

1 of each class

[rocky vine]

well u need legendary for multiple characters so smth is glitched

did u restart

[random echo]

the only way a barb can really kill you is if he gets on top of you. theres also small mechanics you can do that like making them sour spot with polearms or baiting swings then poking then getting out of range before they can hit you again

[supple vector]

yeah exactly, ive restarted but ill do it again

[barren anvil]

so as rogue you cant just walk up in their face and shank them if they are at full HP you have to wittle them down first with throwing knives?

[random echo]

generally yes. if the skill is even and the the gear is even that is the most consitant way to beat a barb. theres always variables like i mentioned earlier. for example if the barb misses all his swing you could go and poke him toe to toe but in that situation you are just gambling that the person you are fighting is bad

[barren anvil]

hmm i see, is there any pvp vid for rogue i can watch, i enjoy playing a faster paces class like that i find barb n fighter too basic n slow

alsooo one more thing, does rogue have the highest dps? for melee

[random echo]

or shoot them with a handcrossbow or bait them into mobs. all while avoiding the barb whos gonna be chasing you and swinging like an ape

[sullen fossil]

am i losing out on a lot of i skip workshops because i dont wanna fkin woodcut as if this is runescape or something?

[still cloud]

Haven't touched that trash

[random echo]

in full best in slot gear I think rogue beats most classes on pure dmg output. but you are also really squishy so even tho you do the most dmg its not like you can just run into people and stat check them unless you outgear them like crazy

[still cloud]

Not worth it at all

[sullen fossil]

like why the f is it locked behind such garbage content

[still cloud]

Costs to much for too little reward don't waste time on it

[autumn geyser]

https://youtu.be/wH-uhAjz4Kk?si=bJL2fiCqja3e8L7A

is this a good build to follow if not do yall know one?

[barren anvil]

hmm i see so basically, for rogue the gameplay is to wittle ppl out and then go in for the kill

[random echo]

its all about picking your moment and taking calculated risks. it is the fastest class in the game which is by far the biggest advantage you have over every other class.

[barren anvil]

hmm yeah das true

[random echo]

in this game movespeed is probably the most important stat in the game. not dmg not hp not physical dmg reduction but movespeed. when you are faster then others you have the ability to pick fights on your own terms. it forces the oppenent to react to you rather than you reacting to them

hope I helped ❤️

[barren anvil]

yeah really helpful thankyou so much

explained everyth rlly well :)

[dusky stratus]

Absoloutly nothing worse than loosing a fight or not being able to finish a kill , simply because youve been outpaced by speed 🧙‍♂️

[pale remnant]

nah ping and fps are the most underrated stat ind dnd

[finite yoke]

I think free time is the best stat actually

[charred veldt]

Fr

[pale remnant]

god dont get me started on this meta

[charred veldt]

As an engineering student I consider myself extremely lucky to have pulled a chest

[finite yoke]

Wish I could roll free time on my gear

[charred veldt]

Then i go watch a streamer

And they have like 5 and 8 artifacts

[spiral totem]

yeah, dont compair your self to someone who plays 12 hours a day 365 days a year. its not healthy.

[autumn geyser]

Dos anyone know a good perma demon build?

[pale remnant]

honestly might wanna go to ur local gas station and buy a lotto ticket my boy, put that luck somewhere life changing, or funnle it into dark and darker i guess its pretty important there too

[charred veldt]

My most lucky pile hit was a... 1 in 20000 in season 6

[obtuse pumice]

allright they need to revert the overseer boss arena, its actually just garbage fight now where it will do 1 dash move and be on the edge of arena then fire breath that you cant dodge

[charred veldt]

I could've played in the lotto instead

[obtuse pumice]

nothing was wrong with the fight before just needed the warlock nerf

[warped spear]

Were locks able to hellfire it? OR halberd?

[obtuse pumice]

just abusing halberd and taking 40% reduced dmg from 1 perk

[pale remnant]

game is experimental at best, so much unbalance already just have fun, personally wish they would allow you to edit the config file again so you can get batter performance that's what matters in this game more than anything is seeing you opponent move, but they think that is unfair to make an ugly game look uglier, lol

[obtuse pumice]

perk is now nerfed so they atleast take some damage but sitll the easiest class to farm it on by far

[warped spear]

Sucks they changed that perk, I genuinely think it was good for the game so people could learn bosses easily and thens switch to their perferred class

Besides it means they are weaker in pvp, just kill them if they are bossing it

[obtuse pumice]

it would have been good if HR version ignored it

[warped spear]

Nah who cares

They are weaker in pvp by having a pve perk

[obtuse pumice]

its lame people can free farm it on warlocks

[charred veldt]

Not exactly

[quartz pine]

so can you

[warped spear]

Its not free farm lol

[obtuse pumice]

not now, but it was

[charred veldt]

That demon damage reduction applied to demon form burn

[quartz pine]

"Hey, stop having fun!" - Dark and Darker players

[charred veldt]

This still not as bad as that time they made lava colossus impossible

[austere panther]

exactly, people complained that they we're upset they could fight in boss areas and not take as much damage as them but at the end of the day they still need to get out of that room after killing it and you get 4 perks to kill them with instead of 3

[random echo]

as somebody who has played since playtest 2. I think the game has never been in a more balanced state than it is in right now.

[charred veldt]

I second this

[pale remnant]

cool!

[charred veldt]

Even with the halberd mfers

[obtuse pumice]

i think the fight now is just kinda bs tho, with the tiny arena there is really no room to dodge some attacks

[warped spear]

40% undead damge was a good perk for the game. It let new players learn bosses much more easily

[charred veldt]

I prefer over the caster lock era

And the insta druid shapeshift

[spiral totem]

why do they even make the bosses harder?? "oh some no lifers found a way to kill the boss, lets make it more difficult for EVERYONE!" ... who thought that was a good idea?

[charred veldt]

That was peak cancer

[warped spear]

Giving players mechancis to more easily learn bosses is good for the game and gets people to stay longer

[still cloud]

Thats in every game ever, but they are trying to end this and ruining the game doing it imo

[warped spear]

Games in the best pvp state its ever been in

[austere panther]

common opinion but I don't think the game needs weak balance and that's what everyone is striving for. Nerfing all the time isn't the way to let the game flourish.

[still cloud]

🤣

[warped spear]

Movespeed meta was terrible, and thats from a TM lock main

[charred veldt]

100%

Imo the agi nerfs are good

[warped spear]

The game right now has more viable builds then literally ever before

[still cloud]

Movespeed will always be king, if they even us all out its going to be barbs and meleelocks and fighters with halberds.... oh wait

[charred veldt]

It should be a stat for plate fighters to get to around 300 with enough investment

[random echo]

let the movespeed debate begin.

[austere panther]

that's such a mid opinion, movement is how people who can't be bothered to learn any other mechanic play every game. This isn't apex or fortnite.

[charred veldt]

And have deminishijg returns around 305

[edgy sable]

Ability to play 80hours a week best stat

[still cloud]

I respect your opinion 😉

[austere panther]

thank you.

[edgy sable]

anyone else going full time dark and darker esport

[pale remnant]

hard to call a game balanced when performance isn't consistent among players, blocking frames are a big problem for players with an evasive playstyle who like to punish predictable attacks, games only balanced for players who only have to kite lol

[finite yoke]

Oh you're the guy that cried about cleric being OP after I killed you in HR. You know cleric has no movement speed abilities right?

[austere panther]

that's when I'm leaving, when they actually put a ranked game mode is when this game is just for the people who cut holes in their chair for more game time.

[pale remnant]

Judement literally slows you my guy

[finite yoke]

Movement speed ability = ability that increases movement speed.

[pale remnant]

if you make someone slower, are you not getting faster?

[austere panther]

too many games are trying to get into comp gaming and it's ruining casual gaming, "casual" modes are just where sweats warm up before they go off to pretend they're going to be paid for it someday

[finite yoke]

The two teammates are not getting slower

[pale remnant]

thats too bad usually cant catch 2 people at once with speed anyway huh

[still cloud]

You never killed me you are delusional

[finite yoke]

Well you refused to state your class and character name, sooooo

[eager plaza]

what is a DB in trading post?

[tender jackal]

does additional weapon damage work on spellbooks?

[austere sail]

deathbloom

[finite yoke]

The 2 extra people can cover their friend's retreat

[finite yoke]

For the melee attack yes

[dusky stratus]

deathbloom artifact

[barren anvil]

hey btw one more thing, what perks do you think are the best for rogue rn, im running the skills dual strike and shadow step

[pale remnant]

bro only plays sr

[austere panther]

yes for melee damage

[eager plaza]

what is the value of a deathbloom bc market is 80K?

[still cloud]

i dont conversate with walls

[finite yoke]

What does this even mean

[thorn glen]

\

[austere panther]

real shit lmao, I thought I needed context

[finite yoke]

No?

[pale remnant]

even less balance when you cant pick a healer and aoe slow to be on your team

[still cloud]

You make up everything lol i can start quoting the proof and others that also saw it before when you stfu then too

[finite yoke]

Okay tell me your character class and name then

[eager plaza]

what is the value of a deathbloom bc market is 80K?

[thorn glen]

What's up with the new garbage frame drops though?

[still cloud]

Lol this does not correlate you dense or what

[austere panther]

at least it was properly punctuated.

[pale remnant]

lmao no way

[young bobcat]

Does the Overseer drops the same artifacts or they changed it ?

[still cloud]

Lol grammar police karen

[finite yoke]

I can only assume you are hiding this information so I can't prove I killed you

[visual cipher]

so is the value of a fulgor artifact 160k since its worth 2 DB

[pale remnant]

overseer now drops the demons phallus

[still cloud]

Bro if you had, youd know it already you are so dense it hurts

[tender jackal]

also if you socket something can you not bring it into arena?

[young bobcat]

NAh someone told me he now drops cinder so what wondring if that was cap or na

[eager plaza]

what is the value of a deathbloom bc market is 80K?

[pale remnant]

cinder ame and skin changed to devils phallus read patch notes

[finite yoke]

"erm, grammer police 🤓 "

[finite yoke]

I do know I have killed you, but you keep saying I am lying

[still cloud]

because you are

i can come in here and say i killed you 2

but with no proof? we both just monkeys

[finite yoke]

Clip of you killing XxJeremusxX?

[royal siren]

@eager plaza

[eager plaza]

yes?

[still cloud]

show me your clip

[earnest blade]

@eager plaza

[austere panther]

best part of this community is finding people who think their playstyle is better than anyone else's and letting them know not everyone is as narrowminded as them. This game has no-one but people who want to argue about what's broken left in it, I know there are a few people who say they'll help players and enjoy helping people but the overall player base is just bin juice.

[eager plaza]

hi?

[edgy sable]

I know when that hotline @eager plaza

[eternal granite]

am i the only one seizing trying to read the new arena patch notes? like wtf is the point of solo duo if its still 3v3 and 'flex' can be queued as a solo/duo?

[dusky stratus]

hard to say , you have to judge the price of the market listing & what others are currently trading them for in trade & also have to take its rolled stats into account, best to watch trade and see what simalar ones go for

[visual cipher]

niceeee i like that

[pale remnant]

why come to say i killed you and not i can kill you just kill him again? whats the problem?

[austere panther]

yes

[still cloud]

read up idc to fill you in

[eager plaza]

ahhhh okay thab you i was trying to estimate the value of things because a lot of people ask for 2DBs

[random echo]

its preference and totally based on how you choose to play the class. if you want to ambush people you take hide. if you want to counter casters you take cut throat. I personally run rupture and sneak attack. its totally based on what style you prefer. i run rupture sneak attack because neither of them never really hurt you and are useful vs every class and can be used easily in every engagement

[austere panther]

that shit literally happened two seconds ago it isn't "filling you in" it's not even history yet.

[dusky stratus]

no problem i know its not much help , Good luck with everything though 🧙‍♂️

[pale remnant]

that was a rhetorical whats the problem, the problem is no one can their money where their mouth is

[still cloud]

exactly why i shouldnt have to explain it? are we arguing about everything now? even when we agree we somehow argue? godamn den n n s s s e

[austere panther]

you spelt dense incorrectly

you used too many letters

[still cloud]

no shit

[finite yoke]

No I gave you my character name, now you are lying about your character name... wow.

[still cloud]

bro ive said it before you are so dense

my name is my name if you knew it youd know it now continue your lies

[pale remnant]

i killed you, no you didnt, yeah huh, nuh uh, you're lying, no you're lying, yes please fill us in big guy

[austere panther]

sounds zesty

[still cloud]

hold your breathe while you wait

[quartz pine]

bro you've said the word dense way too many times today. pick a new insult. If I chained together every time you said the word "dense" I could drop a trance album

[austere panther]

breath*

[pale remnant]

sounds zesty

[still cloud]

karen

[random echo]

dads op is a demon bro. he argues for the love of the game. i respect the hell out of that

[austere panther]

you said "-please fill us in big guy"

[pale remnant]

ok

[edgy sable]

please let us have it big guy

[barren anvil]

guys whats the best way to make gold rn

[barren anvil]

oki understood tysm

[austere panther]

nah @finite yoke is rage baiting and DadsOP thinks he's Andrew Tate and likes commenting on the softness of men's hands and people not being hard enough for his liking.

[pale remnant]

me next me next

[random echo]

i think he does it for the love of the game

[finite yoke]

Okay say it

[still cloud]

you are so dense

[austere panther]

I'm sure your hands are plenty soft enough for him.

[pale remnant]

bruh youre not him

[random echo]

chad does what chad wants

[dusky stratus]

hard to say , i make a lot of money in consistant HR boss runs & loot pile + having the chance to find bags , chest or artifacts ! is there a map or a bass youre good at an can sweat for a bit ? in my experiance its highly lucrative 🧙‍♂️

[austere panther]

No, I'm SpannersTheBrit. It says on my username above my texts.

[gray kelp]

Anyone know why the game only boots to a black screen?

[barren anvil]

id say ruins

[naive coral]

whats the meta Fighter chest piece for HR ?

[austere panther]

anything plate probably

[gritty sorrel]

What perks should platelock run? Dark Reflect and Shadow Touch or Soulcollector n Antimagic?

[austere panther]

demon armor

and 3 others

[gritty sorrel]

Mr Genius over here

[austere panther]

you flatter me, I'm just trying to help the best I can

[random echo]

reflect, anti magic, soul collector. and the plate armor

[dusky stratus]

many free piles in ruins without bosses , if you try to run as many piles & lootable high end chest then you should be able to find a good rythm to it & i do recomend bossing as it is very good for the bank! Good luck 🧙‍♂️

[distant bear]

which quest is the goldsmith letting you break diamonds down into other gems behind this time around? or did they remove it completely

[gritty sorrel]

Doesnt reflect remove the stacks though?

[barren anvil]

which bosses are good for this for money etc, which ones do u do

[pale remnant]

correction condescending narcissist like most players

[barren anvil]

i can learn those

[random echo]

yes but its improves the dmg of the reflection.

[austere panther]

but you can run whatever you want as long as it has demon armor for the plate part of platelock @gritty sorrel

[gritty sorrel]

Hm. Gotta try

[austere panther]

you know what game is amazingly balanced? Plants Vs Zombies (not garden warfare that shit is ass)

[uncut chasm]

any1 know if ranger point blank perk is bow only, or also works for spear?

[austere panther]

why would it work for melee?

[uncut chasm]

doesn't say ranged only just says deal extra dmg to targets within a range

[austere panther]

test it on dummies then

[dusky stratus]

depends if the 1st layer seems free i will rumn bard & do spec knight + banshee for double pile & chance at spec fabric 5k atm , if i want to boss in 2nd layer i do all bosses as cleric & hit as many free piles aswell & if i play warlock i can kill any boss for any pile in any layer , so its just up to you to find a rythm & bosses youre comfertable fighting . if youre new to bossing i recomend the banshee as she is by far the easiest! 🧙‍♂️

[mint jewel]

Does burn cause more damage ticks for fire spells?

[uncut chasm]

that isn't what I asked but ty 🙂

[barren anvil]

ah oki tysm, btw is bard any good for bossing after the nerfs arent we just better off using warlock or smth

[mint jewel]

Does fire mastery create more damage for fire spells?

[austere panther]

depends on if the boss is undead or demon and if you want to deal with warlock or bard base stats

[barren anvil]

so what would you say bard is good at rn

[proper pollen]

am i crazy or is troll pelt drop rate been nerfed

[dusky stratus]

depends i still find bard the best for me with fire colosus & a few other just for his action speed & shreik of weakness is good for bosses but just personaly preferance

[autumn geyser]

Is it possible to run something close to a void blade build now that true mag is gone

[austere panther]

idk, I don't play him. I'd assume bladehand he's better than warlock, wyvern too, manta ray and the goblin cave ones are a good guess too

[barren anvil]

Hmm i see fairs, ty again :)

[barren anvil]

Alrighty

[austere panther]

then again it's only 15% extra damage so you could probably just hit the boss a couple more times and still enjoy the game or if it really matters on the speed use dex strength cleric with blunt mastery and undead dmg bonus perk with war maul for fastest ttk on bosses.

as long as they're undead

[barren anvil]

ye ima jus stick to warlock lowk, thx tho

[dusky stratus]

no problem , best of luck

[barren anvil]

thanks you too!

[charred scaffold]

Revert TPM and Secure Boot!!!

[rustic pecan]

no

[sand elbow]

Call me crazy, but I think the whole having to grind from level 1 to 20 to actually be able to play your character at a basic level is really lame. it doesn't teach you anything and it's really tedious to have to level up all your characters again after a wipe. Isn't it time that be removed or at LEAST only have to do it once and then after every wipe you don't have to do it again.

[next epoch]

isnt wipe supposed to be exactly that: a wipe

[sand elbow]

Yeah, wiping out inventories is really fun and a good idea, it makes the last days of the wipe and first days really fun. I don't think removing the pointless leveling grind takes away from the fun of that.

[austere panther]

it's meant to make the first few games per wipe feel a little more enjoyable before everyone has their bis kits and ability to 1v3.

[sand elbow]

It just feels extremely slow and boring for someone who hops on every wipe and gives the game another shot and isn't no-lifing it

[rustic pecan]

u get lvl 5-10 in one good game

[sand elbow]

it feels like a random several hour mandatory grind per character that just leaves a super poor taste in my mouth and provides nothing imo

[rustic pecan]

wth is this guy babbling about lol... lmao even

[sand elbow]

Regardless of how fast the process, I think the game is better without it

[wraith robin]

Stick to 1 or 2 characters especially if youre casual

[royal siren]

or just have one level across all accounts per wipe and have fame still track the same

[next epoch]

this type of player is always more burdened with games that wipe tho

[sand elbow]

good advice, but i dont think that says anything about my point

[rustic pecan]

^^ lol lmao even

[austere panther]

yeah unfortunately the route this game has gone down is meant for said no-lifers hence the never ending complaints about every class being overpowered and wanting to kill everyone in a lobby before feeling any sort of satisfaction. It's the same in Rust.

[sand elbow]

ad hominem attack are a big sign of intellectual weakness

[sand elbow]

I guess that's the case, it's a real shame. I like the gameplay a lot, but with a full time job it's too much lol.

[austere panther]

real, some people have families and friends who couldn't care less about them so they can manage with that and a full time.

[mossy fractal]

where the hell did single player option in pve go? Why am I forced into random trios if I want to farm gold just so I can unlock the real maps in the real game mode

[next epoch]

i understand the want of making wipes less impactful but this is essentially a player going into a game that wipes to begin with and asking the devs to cater to them, not the folks who do enjoy the game (and wipes) already

[brisk mason]

Am I immoral for doing big agi rogue?

[sand elbow]

i do think the wipe idea is incredible, and everyone starting back to the same point at the same time is a really fun and good idea. I just think that removing the 1-20 grind doesn't really take that much away from it and saves a lot of time for more casual players.

[plain spoke]

Hey, I’m looking to help as a trusted middleman/trader in Dark and Darker. I do it for free because I genuinely enjoy the game’s trading/market system and want to get more involved in the community. I’m active, reliable, and willing to start with small trades to build trust. Feel free to DM me if needed!

[sand elbow]

As better players said, it's something that goes by extremely quick if you're a dedicated player, so they don't really feel the pain every wipe

[mossy fractal]

I agree tbh, once you learn a class, there is no benefit to reseting levels or at least don't lock abilities behind level up

[austere panther]

I understand that too but this isn't just that, it's the devs saying "we want more players" and instead of catering to a more casual appreciative type of gamers they decide to try and hop the comp game train and make a game that was meant for a more casual play but force it into this comp aspect just to satisfy a bigger group of gamers.

[sand elbow]

exactly, stuff like that grind is helpful to not overwhelm new players with a bunch of abilities all at once but once you've done it once there's no real value to it anymore

[rustic pecan]

for stuff that really matters sorc is still so boring to 1v1

[mossy fractal]

The forced trios in pve is annoying

[quartz pine]

you can solo queue into pve

[austere panther]

now they just sit on 1000 complaints a day because the game isn't easy to balance

[sand elbow]

makes no sense to force any kind of group in a pve mode lol

[mossy fractal]

It's already annoying needing to play pve just to unlock the maps that used to be the default way to play

But that change is here to stay

[sand elbow]

i guess you can just ditch your group and go do whatever you want

[mossy fractal]

I always do

I just turn off local audio and fuck off

[quartz pine]

you can queue PVE solo

theres a checkbox "Do not autofill teammates"

[mossy fractal]

How do you? There's only a trio option with open party

[rustic pecan]

lol lmao even

[mossy fractal]

Where? Game deosn't really showcase that

[sand elbow]

is there no check box to search without finding a party?

[next epoch]

lol i just started up the game because i was like wait, i coulda sworn you can queue into it solo

[quartz pine]

im soloq in PVE right now

[austere panther]

free XP and quest progression if they kill something you want to kill

[sand elbow]

problem solved hahaha

[mossy fractal]

You used to be able to just select solo,duo,trio

now ig it's a hidden option and forced into a trio queue in pve, but matters less there

[sand elbow]

i had no idea they'd progress quests for you, they might actually be useful xD

[austere panther]

if they kill the correct enemies it completes it for you too

[quartz pine]

yes, hidden in plain sight. right above the map select

[sand elbow]

i have trouble with trios in this for the same reason i dont use companions in games like skyrim or fallout, i keep hitting my teammates accidentally when they run in front of me lol

[mossy fractal]

I see no such option?

[austere panther]

PvE you can't deal damage to teammates.

[sand elbow]

Yes, I was more referring to pvp. I don't really play PVE much.

[austere panther]

fair

[sand elbow]

unless im practicing a boss

[mossy fractal]

I hate having to level to apprentice to unlock pvp for other maps, kinda like the forced grind to 20, it feels like bad content to lock, esp because I remember back when you could just select any map from the start of a season

It feels like artificallly creating a time sink and makes new seasons a slog as a casual player

[scenic hazel]

it takes like 10games 😭

[sand elbow]

exactly my reasoning for being against the 1-20 grind. this game is already a MASSIVE timesink, it doesn't need more arbitrary time sinks lol

[quartz pine]

queue pve without finding a party and read the options the squire has if you can't find the checkbox. it might not be there now. all I know is I queue solo into PVE every day, i just can't remember rn while in dungeon what buttons I click to do it. its autopilot by now\

[sand elbow]

But what does having it in the game positively add to the game itself?

[mossy fractal]

bro it can take 1 game and it still would suck as a returning player to see content I used to be able to access locked behind a recurirng tutorial for a game I already know how to play

[slow scaffold]

It has a pop up box that literally says enter solo or trio mfs just need to open their eyes

And READ

[quartz pine]

sounds about right. illiteracy rates are going crazy rn

[next epoch]

ya i figured it out, its no longer the check mark but if you try to enter pve alone the squire says are you sure??? then you select either solos or trios.

[slow scaffold]

Nah fr 😭😭🤣

[mossy fractal]

That's really bad design, especially since before it was clear you could select the solo option beforehand, not make it seem you're forced into a party and only tell you after you ready up last minute

[quartz pine]

"game bad, makes me read" welcome to 2026

[mossy fractal]

I don't wanna press ready and be forced into a queue like it always used to do

[slow scaffold]

True it was better how it was before but maybe something was wrong with it

[mossy fractal]

expecting a pop up that was never there for bonus confirmation is unintuitive

[fleet surge]

I think its better now bc before you would have to checkmark it and now it actually gives you a disclaimer before you enter bc sometimes id forget to click the checkmark

[slow scaffold]

Real

[mossy fractal]

Except that's not the issue if you actually read my compliant, in fact it's becaue it doesn't tell you that's how solo queue works and expects you to queue blind in a way the game didn't ever approach the way to queue solo before

Before you just selected the solo option, it felt way more clear than being presented a "party only option" and only being told as you try to enter solo play is even an option in that mode

[quartz pine]

idgaf bro

hate the game. im just sayin you look goofy

[mossy fractal]

have minor compliant about how the game functions based on how it used to function
get accused of hating the game
if someone here can't read it's you man

[oak sun]

I somewhat agree if they were gonna remove blind queue they should’ve canceled the trio option in solo parties

[quartz pine]

sure. you're right because "nuance" like I said idgaf

[mint topaz]

Are ppl no longer playing normal? Yesterday there was like 5-8 death on the feed and now it's like 2-3

[mossy fractal]

Thanks for agreeing i'm right :3

[oak sun]

All went to squire cause norms are full of minimaxxers

[mossy fractal]

I also only got the option to "find a party" or "enter solo" I wonder how auto-fill handles doubles or treats them as a complete party?

[mint topaz]

🙁

[mossy fractal]

why I miss the 3 buttons system, that like also stil exists for pvp seemingly lol

[mint topaz]

I suppose that paul need to add a s2r for solos

[oak sun]

Would be nice

He’s focused on arena so just be patient and it’ll come

[mint topaz]

Finger crossed!

[candid magnet]

can someone help me with getting tpm2.0 on to bios

[oak sun]

Just watch a video ur not able to screen share bios

[silent crater]

Sure dm me and we will try to work something out

[candid magnet]

no duh there no vids for my bios and it doesnt have 2.0 just the normal one on giga

[vale frigate]

Are artifacts going to get more expensive later?
Should I invest?

[oak sun]

What’s bios u got

[quartz pine]

yes

[oak sun]

Yes

[candid magnet]

gigaby

[vale frigate]

Thank you

[oak sun]

Auorus?

[fluid cliff]

why are artifacts getting more expensive whuh?

[oak sun]

Cause their artifacts lmao

[next epoch]

cuz the evil greedy players are raising the prices and theres nothing us normal folks can do about it 😠

[fluid cliff]

honestly at my level of skill i dont dream of ever seeing an artifact

maybe 1 day

[silver bloom]

turn into a twink and become socially active, artifact secured

[fluid cliff]

tel aviv impressed

[oak sun]

Dude ended up blocking me cause he can’t figure out how to work his bios

[spark skiff]

Curse of Darkness: decreases targets resistance to dark damage by 50%, 20% of damage dealt by dark dmg is returned as health.

[ebon cosmos]

To be fair most people never need to. And it's only a few games that require it. For most people they'd just upgrade to win11 that automatically enables sec boot

[obtuse pumice]

so we are back to just 5 hide rogues in every corner now? rip

[silver bloom]

cause most games acknowledge that the average user will hook off very quickly making them do stuff like this

had i not been a long time player i would just stop playing the game altogether from these changes too

[edgy sable]

Get in there and FARM, YOUR , ITEMS!

[pliant valley]

GET THEM PIXELS

[ripe quiver]

Green Buckler with Interaction Speed?
We're so up.

[weak frost]

Even as a longtime player, and somewhat computer savvy individual, if I had to jump thru hoops I was prepared to quit. Unfortunately, though, my computer already met whatever the new requirements are for HR.

[oak sun]

Yeah it’s just that I feel ppl slightly overreact about touching ur bios I only get it if u have a potato and can’t afford another pc

[quartz pine]

that sucks dude. sorry you didn't get to quit

[silver bloom]

honestly not much overreaction, there's a reason apps and websites fight to grab your attention in the first 10 seconds as an example

[weak frost]

Thanks man

[silver bloom]

if something isn't user-friendly it's gonna get alot of backlash

[fast vector]

can you change gender with red/blue stones?

[oak sun]

No just wipe ur character it isn’t that big of a deal imo, if u want to keep ur bis just put it in the shared stash if u have legendary, if u don’t either just wipe it and deal with losing ur gear or just keep the character and their gender

[quartz pine]

rip fame levels

[ebon cosmos]

Yeah. I have multiple of the same class. When I come up with a funny theme name I try to see if it's taken or not lol. Like my wizards name being RandalfTheCracked or my rogue Chubzero, or my fire-only sorc Quemandra.

[full monolith]

how do you know if an item is bis

[ebon cosmos]

it's looted before you even mouse over it

[ripe quiver]

real af

[oak sun]

Good stats usually base stats like strength or knowledge etc

[full monolith]

+3 right?

[ripe quiver]

+3 of a base stat is max roll

[oak sun]

Yeah

[full monolith]

what armor pieces are being sold well on market

[ebon cosmos]

Seems like with this current brawler meta hard stats is the way to go atm

[oak sun]

I’ve gotten a epic shadow hood with 3 strength 3 dex 3 agility last wipe

[ebon cosmos]

most things can sell well just look for stats in their good roll ranges that make sense on the item

[ripe quiver]

so a blue hood with 3 dex 3 agi, that is pretty BiS in norms on a rogue at least.

[oak sun]

Purple

Was playing rogue

Friend got it off a random wizard in norms

Was really lucky pull

[ripe quiver]

then what was the third stat because strength is the base stat on Hood.

[oak sun]

Can’t really remember cause it was a long time

[obtuse pumice]

why am i spawning in a match thats 25% complete and 4 rogues are already in position to camp every corner? dumbest shit ever

[oak sun]

I might have it in my dms hollup

[still cloud]

faustian bargain is too much fun and needs to be removed 🤣

[ebon cosmos]

I would say these purple light gauntlets I found are pretty okay budget gloves. 2 agi 2 str 2 vig 2.3% magic pen 2.7% spell cast speed

[ripe quiver]

either way solid piece, if it had 3 Vigor it would be insane

[languid hemlock]

Hey when is Rogue halberd going live?

[oak sun]

Yes 3 vigor

[ebon cosmos]

I found a unique drum that has 28 weapon damage with +3 additional weapon damage

not really a good instrument but good for throwing at ppl

[oak sun]

Cleric

Clerics need bonk drum for smite

That with the perk that slows ppl when divine damage is applied

[ebon cosmos]

you can't apply smite to drum though can you?

[oak sun]

It’s a perk that goes onto anything

It’s not like ignite

[ebon cosmos]

is +24 additional armor rating on a halberd a high roll?

[scarlet badge]

anyone know the new artifacts drops for bosses?

[oak sun]

Search it up

[scarlet badge]

where

[oak sun]

In the discord search bar

[ebon cosmos]

Is a purple occultist robe with 2 vig 2 will 3 dex 3 agi 2.6% cdr good?

[summer zodiac]

Workshop grind in any way worth? I get that it's gambling with items, but is it a somewhat viable moneymaker if you invest in it?

[next epoch]

ya its lucrative af

[floral pendant]

Why are seal of dominions so expensive? Did they already announce end of season cosmetics with them?

[quartz pine]

it turns maxrolled greens and blues into dopamine when you enhance them to try to hit arena bis

[quartz pine]

it always gets datamined. need 10 seals of dominion for the collector's cosmetic quest this season

[warped spear]

I cant wait for the off yellow hue torch

[summer zodiac]

But its still like 1k to roll a self-found item into a purple.

1. have to find max-rolled blue
2. Pray its for the workshop you have upgraded
3. 1k every time, just to maybe get a good roll extra

[empty arch]

game just needs me to be able to waft away a zombie fart @zinc sparrow

[warped spear]

I will say at least the first arena reward is dope, its one of the coolest torches to date

[warped spear]

Nah its def still needs to be cheaper

[quartz pine]

you asked a question. I answered it. thats the end of it from my POV

[summer zodiac]

No hard feelings, its a valid answer, just hoping for something "better"

Something that actually makes it make sense to upgrade, since right now its just a worse gamble than jewelry crafting

[magic pier]

is ghost king second floor now?

[quartz pine]

yes

[magic pier]

cool but weird

[quartz pine]

yeah, should have put the new demon boss in the crypts instead

[blissful stirrup]

ghost king needs a rework so bad

[sinful harness]

Fellas I saw this game on steam it looks cool so I downloaded it.

I know nothing

What modes to play?

And how hard is the game?

[blissful stirrup]

the game is very tough

luckily the new player onboarding is easier than it used to be

[quartz pine]

start in pve adventure mode to get a feel for things, learn how to handle monsters... then dive into squire royale to fight players. or dive right into the pvp if that seems fun to you

[blissful stirrup]

yeah squire royales would be a good place to start to learn pvp

there is a steep learning curve so dont be too disheartened when you get stomped on

[sinful harness]

Oh boy

The theme and aesthetic looks cool so that might carry it for me

[blissful stirrup]

thats what roped me into it as well

and now its one of my favorite games of all time id say

up there with terraria for me

[still cloud]

He never felt like a final boss anyway, this one is more fitting

[pale pilot]

getting back into the game after a year, i know the game has changed a bunch. how does looting / the market work now

[keen mauve]

Key room piles have a chance to drop artifacts now so people hit up golden chest/lions chest for the keys

[rustic pecan]

when is overdraw going to be addressed, this craps actually insane

[full monolith]

whats good on druid?

like stat wise so i can sell. like knowledge will?

[gritty flume]

years of development and sorc spells still just don't work 10% of the time

thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

Very good development Very good game

[pliant valley]

i want something at the end of the match since i don't get anymore ap being demigod. There should be a bonus multiplier for gold coin or something

[fleet surge]

Think of druid like a barb. Strength dex vig etc

Knowledge and will good for a healing druid but rarely anyone plays tbat since cleric is just a better healer in general

[scenic hazel]

knowledge can sell just depends

cast speed counts for transforms

but mostly str dex vig

[sinful harness]

How to use my staff?

I can only use my fist for some reason

[pliant valley]

oh man, i love me some DQ!

Butterfinger, Oreo and Heath Blizzard

[dire lance]

I was playing s2r random queue with two rangers

the moment we encounter an enemy team they start attacking them with spears

FIRE YOUR BOWSSSSS

[pliant valley]

when i was doing SR earlier it seemed 90% of my teams were duplicates

2 bard or 2 lock or 2druids

[dire lance]

they should introduce queue based on team roles

like in overwatch

queue as a ranger/close fighter/healer etc

[tender cosmos]

I queued into a game on my fighter for the one time and I got triple fighter.

Arming sword
Longsword
Zweihander

Love it

[pliant valley]

that creates long wait times i would think

it makes me think of wow and how they have u q up as dps or tank or heals

[tender cosmos]

Agreed

Only reason is there are way more melee and frontline players than healers

[pliant valley]

tank gets insta q

[waxen sleet]

is it possible to get the imp sin if i havent played last season? main sorcf here that love s2r :<

[pliant valley]

no, it was a seasonal religion reward

well, actually

it might roll around again sometimes in the next few yrs

[waxen sleet]

ahh shit :<

[pliant valley]

they will prob release other versions of the imp skin kinda like there are so many orc skins

[waxen sleet]

i always miss knowlage as sorc feels unfair

and ppl with skin ofc can just run full spells

while i can not

[pliant valley]

u can get a hat with 5 knowledge the skin actually is a handicap

[ebon cosmos]

alright alright alright gotta belly full of in and out time to get so stoned I forget I get mad when I play this game

[waxen sleet]

for s2r that skin is insane

[pliant valley]

ah

[scenic hazel]

its ass

[waxen sleet]

sometimes u get into fight and missk nowlagte or get revive without

since im running s2r sorc rank

and i need it asap

got skele mage skin but i rather still use dwarf skin xD

[ebon cosmos]

sorc doesn't use knowledge?

[pliant valley]

yea it does

[scenic hazel]

mem cap?

[waxen sleet]

rofl ?

[scenic hazel]

spell cast speed 💀

[waxen sleet]

and memory capacity

[scenic hazel]

[ebon cosmos]

Or did you just mean that you never seem to find any when you play sorc?

[pliant valley]

he's starting in squire for SR and wanting to maximize

[waxen sleet]

yes, sometimes u get into fight and cant find some knowlage

so... it seems unfair to me

[ebon cosmos]

Ah okay

Misunderstood the sentence. As previously mentioned. stoned.

[pliant valley]

it happens

ur hit btw

[ebon cosmos]

I also handicap myself on sorc so I never need a bunch of knowledge anyways. I use the fire lizard skin on my sorc named Quemandra(char salamander aka charizard in spanish) and just use fire spells

And longsword is my mega claw!

[scenic hazel]

crazy larp

[pliant valley]

sorc with over 30 knowledge and resourcefulness can spam tf out of flamethrower

[ebon cosmos]

Flamethrower is only good once per fight though because if you don't kill them with it they kill you

[pallid hemlock]

please for the love of god soon. and toss a few bows rogues way, survival bow maybe recurve too. perk for longbow???

[ebon cosmos]

BUUT there are some nice combos you can do. Like if you know they're chasing you you can do the slow ass moving fireball and channel your flamebreath then as soon as they round the corner hit them with both

[pliant valley]

flamefrost spear and elemntal bolt is what u use until they get mid to close range for the flamethrower if ur doing pvp

[ebon cosmos]

Yeah but I'm running a fire only challenge sorc

[junior briar]

change my mind, but playing a pick pocket rogue, is the best way to untilt after a frustrating death https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/mIqdg682odnU1t65t?invite=cr-MSx3cWQsMTk2MDM4NDY3

[ebon cosmos]

I noticed a stark difference between skill ranges in SR on US East vs SEA servers. It's like the worst player on US East is on par with the best people in SEA it feels like from the few games I've played in SEA.

[still cloud]

I think killing 7 enemies and killing myself so i can faustain bargain and kill other people on boss as a mob lol, fun with more people

Bargain makes me laugh so much

[ebon cosmos]

How do you do the faustian bargain thing? It always says I have one available but never lets me choose it

[still cloud]

If there are no more players you can't

And i do normals i don't know if it's on in hr

Kill 7 enemies and die fast

I like goblins because jump plus attack moves good

And good damage